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Speaker 2: I just had a fun I'm not a superstoff.

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Speaker 3: Just hanging with my friends and playing my guitar.

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Speaker 5: And after you're done with today's classic, check out yesterday's

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Speaker 5: is This Good podcast with Medio JD and are Very

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Speaker 5: Own Tasty, discussing, among many other things, pay it forward chains, password, mooching, cookies,

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Speaker 5: and a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: More pay it forward chains. Do you believe in them?

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Speaker 3: Are they real? I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I like that debate about the one in.

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Speaker 3: Uh where, Minnesota. Yeah, that there were nine hundred consecutive

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Speaker 2: You didn't buy it. You thought it was a staged media.

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Speaker 3: It was planned. How would nine hundred cars just it

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Speaker 5: Because at a certain point, I think Madio even said, right,

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Speaker 5: it's like, uh, what number we had? I'd better keep

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Speaker 3: You, right.

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Speaker 1: But it was at a dairy queen too. That's the

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's why I was planning my man.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but why why is that crazy? Coffee?

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Speaker 1: Coffee is one thing, but like you're talking about full

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Speaker 1: families like Mini Vans, Peter Buster, Parfaes, chocolate dips, that's

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Speaker 3: But that is a real pay it for situation?

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Speaker 5: days after it was reported that Philadelphia ended trade talks

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, great promo for the trade requester seven's

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, does he do this if it's in Japan

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Speaker 5: Oh, do you think Harden is calling Maury a liar

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Speaker 5: It has to do with the Obviously, I'm going to

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Speaker 5: and then when I do that for you, you are

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Speaker 3: So you know, all those rumors this this past season

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Speaker 3: terrible time to to be a free agent. It's just

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Speaker 3: a horrible situation. So what did Moury lie about? Did

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Speaker 3: he say we're going to give you a max deal,

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Speaker 3: Executives do say stuff. He could have lied, but I

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Speaker 5: I think he might be referencing both things when it

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Speaker 5: comes to calling Daryl Moury a liar. One The first one,

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Speaker 5: you have to assume Maury agreed to give Harden a

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Speaker 5: bigger deal, a juicy deal this summer after taking a

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Speaker 5: pay cut last off season. And then he's renegged on that. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Of it all. For sure. It's interesting because I mean,

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Speaker 2: completely submarine the seventy six ers. That's not allowed. It

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Speaker 2: But we've seen the kind of wink wink deals happen

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Speaker 3: I do think Daryl Mory still wants to trade him,

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Speaker 3: He would be happy to trade him, And I think

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Speaker 3: this is just a maneuver with other teams in the

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Speaker 3: NBA by air quotes taking him off the market to

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Speaker 2: Because that's what it was.

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Speaker 3: I say, Daniel House Junior League. I mean they got CJ. Zucker. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: But him saying this and really like the calling of

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Speaker 5: And I could get the league investigating you, get you

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Speaker 2: His main leverage is that Morey can't jeopardize another season

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and maybe again that gets back to the whole

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Speaker 5: about that, Hey, opt in, we'll trade you. No, you know,

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Speaker 5: nice parting way for us to move off of you.

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Speaker 5: You'll we'll get you, we'll try and get you to

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Speaker 2: Around dwell embiid.

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Speaker 5: And maybe maybe that is the part that he's like, no,

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Speaker 5: And now you know, all we're hearing is, eh, we're

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Speaker 5: might have you back to camp. Maybe that's the liar

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Speaker 2: I could see that. Well, yeah, but it's also so

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Speaker 2: They've got picks way in the future that they could trade.

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Speaker 2: So from like an NBA two K sense, you could

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Speaker 2: I can pick my team. I've done it twice before.

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Speaker 2: It's no problem. There's always somebody waiting for me. Now

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I just wonder how this affects his future

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Speaker 3: does this change the way other teams look at him? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: that's that's why Derl Moorey's playing this card now, hoping,

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Speaker 3: But until a deadline happens in the NBA, nothing happens,

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Speaker 5: Hardly is trying to set the deadline. I mean, he's

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Speaker 5: saying I'm not coming. That's my deadline, and but Ory

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Speaker 2: Because there is an interesting part to this.

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Speaker 5: Harden can refuse to report to seventy six Ers training camp,

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Speaker 5: pushed back because of this, you know, Article eleven, section

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Speaker 5: read you the mumbo jumble, but it's basically, if he

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Speaker 5: So like him, just like sitting out. If Maury really

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Speaker 5: Harden just didn't report, you know, it's like that wouldn't

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Speaker 5: he's almost better off coming and doing the Ben Simmons

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Speaker 2: That's what I'll do.

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Speaker 5: I don't give shit, And yeah, I'm gonna make things

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he can. He can take it to another level,

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Speaker 3: for sure. He can sit out thirty days according to

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Speaker 3: that mumbo jumbo, right, ye, and I think there's even

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Speaker 3: Really who wants and his future contracts? Really? And yeah,

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Speaker 2: Which is sort of what James Harten is.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he's at the top of that that. Sure,

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Speaker 3: he could have been on the top of this one, really,

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Speaker 5: He also, in addition to possibly torpedoing his next contract

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Speaker 5: with whatever team, his legacy at all. I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: he gives a shit, but you know, you see a

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Speaker 5: lot of blowback to this, like this is too far

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Speaker 5: MVP level you used to be, so now it's really

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Speaker 2: Do you have an opinion on that? TK, I just

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Speaker 2: think this continues his legacy. Harden has already pretty widely

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Speaker 2: trade request. I don't know, or he's gonna make the

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Speaker 2: I don't think this really hurts his legacy because I

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Speaker 5: That is the strange part of all this. Daril Moriy,

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Speaker 5: and the it's you know, it seems like a fractured relationship.

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Speaker 2: You to see him, I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't see them coming back from this and I

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Speaker 5: you said the dwell Embiid part, you slipped it in here.

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Speaker 5: That's the whole crazy part of this. It's like, you

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Speaker 5: cannot waste another year. You've already done it. You've done

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Speaker 2: You can't do it again.

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Speaker 5: As this guy gets on and on in his career,

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Speaker 5: is playing at an MVP level and you're trying to win.

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Speaker 2: And I know this.

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Speaker 5: If anything, this just like leans into your theory that

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Speaker 5: I'm talking about dwell Embiid and he will find his

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Speaker 2: He's never gonna finish his career in Philadelphia, so it's

433
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,720
Speaker 2: just a matter of time. Will it be more or

434
00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 2: less than a year? Probably more, but who knows. We'll

435
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 2: see exactly how it goes. The dissolving of Harden and

436
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 2: Maury's relationship, the only thing I could think of that

437
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,480
Speaker 2: was similar was Will Ferrell and Adam McKay. They were

438
00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,040
Speaker 2: like best friends and business partners for twenty years. Then

439
00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 2: Will Ferrell wanted to play Jerry Bussen Winning Time and

440
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 2: Adam McKay said, no, We're getting John c Riley, another

441
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 2: of our good friends. And now these guys aren't friends anymore.

442
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 2: That's very strange. That was a stupid move by Adam McKay.

443
00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: Completely threw away a relationship over a show that was okay, weird.

444
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 5: I guess the second season apparently is a lot better.

445
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,960
Speaker 5: I've heard I can't speak to that.

446
00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,320
Speaker 2: Well, it's a second round playoff show, just like the

447
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,400
Speaker 2: Philadelphia seventy six. What impact do you think this has

448
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 2: on Jewell and b We've seen him remove the location

449
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,000
Speaker 2: in his Twitter bio, his X bio. I guess today

450
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 2: Philadelphia is gone? Is gone?

451
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, which social platform x x profile is exprofile

452
00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:03,440
Speaker 3: x dot com. Okay, interesting, he's not requesting a trade.

453
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: I don't think if that's I guess that's the only

454
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: thing you can take from that. Yeah, it's an unfortunate one,

455
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 3: isn't it. This whole scenario I think more. Yeah, has

456
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 3: to convince him, has to get something back for Harden.

457
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,400
Speaker 3: It may not be a good player that helps him

458
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 3: this season. He's when he was on radio a mere

459
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: three and a half weeks ago when we talked about this,

460
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 3: he was on Philadelphia Radio saying, we've got to get

461
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: either a player or something we can turn into a player,

462
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 3: because he does care about keeping Joel Embiaid happy, There's

463
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,200
Speaker 3: no doubt. But he's got to keep Joel Embiid happy,

464
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: as I said a little earlier, for twelve months, and

465
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: then he can really shake things up with Tobias Harris

466
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: coming off the books, this whole hardened thing coming off

467
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: the books. There's lots of money coming off the books.

468
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 3: Where it's twenty four to twenty five, it's Embiid at

469
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 3: fifty mil, Tucker at eleven mil, and then supporting players.

470
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 3: The Maxi's contract will be signed by really there's there's

471
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 3: like seventy mil sort of locked in, so there's lots

472
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 3: of wiggle room for twelve months. But yeah, you gotta

473
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 3: you gotta convince him and man that that relationship. Yeah,

474
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 3: and obviously is fractured. It's wild. But I guess if

475
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 3: there's anybody that this isn't wild to consider would do,

476
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: it's James Harden. I mean, it's just the guy who

477
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,240
Speaker 3: who throws stuff away and I and I like, I

478
00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 3: kind of like seeing him do it in China. It's

479
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 3: on like how he did it, how he's doing it

480
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: somewhere else, like he's on vacation. It kind of feels

481
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 3: like any of us, like we're on vacation. I feel different.

482
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna act different. I'm gonna I'm gonna wow,

483
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do something. If he's in North America, I

484
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: don't think.

485
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 5: He's like zipping around on a schooner over there and

486
00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,119
Speaker 5: then just calling his g on the Lion one of

487
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,959
Speaker 5: the funniest videos on the scooter.

488
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:51,239
Speaker 3: I love it.

489
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 5: I love people comparing Harden versus Mariy to like WrestleMania

490
00:22:56,040 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 5: three Hulk Hogan versus Andre the giant Grilla Monsoon famously saying,

491
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 5: the irresistible force meets the immovable object. And that's what

492
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 5: we have here, the standoff between a player who has

493
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,200
Speaker 5: always gotten his way and does not give a fuck

494
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 5: against a GM who thrives under being uncomfortable. He will

495
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 5: wait it out, man, He'll have a staring contest with you.

496
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 5: He doesn't care, so who comes out? Victoria said style Morey.

497
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 2: I have to imagine that the seventy six ers as

498
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: a front office know the ins and outs of the

499
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,119
Speaker 2: NBA rule book better than anybody. Between getting busted for

500
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 2: tampering last year with the PJ. Tucker Daniel House deal,

501
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: the Ben Simmons sitting out of training camp last year

502
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,280
Speaker 2: and figuring out exactly how they were gonna be able

503
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,400
Speaker 2: to find him and that kind of stuff, and now

504
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: this with the Harden and his how he has to

505
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,640
Speaker 2: play or else his contract just carries over till next year.

506
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: They're getting into the nitty gritty of it all. They

507
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: know all the deepest cuts that rule.

508
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 5: That's why, like if this was like as a boxing

509
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 5: match or whatever, a wrestling match, like, it's like these

510
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,680
Speaker 5: are these are two vets here at their masters of

511
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 5: their craft is the best way to Harden has done

512
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 5: this before. He knows the move, like I'll show up

513
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 5: in the fat suit. I don't give you know, I

514
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 5: don't care. Like and then, like you said, you just

515
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 5: went through more and the Sixers like, oh yeah, we

516
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 5: do this. We were built for this man, like that's

517
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 5: why this is a This is a hell of a

518
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 5: battle here. And uh, I mean, if you're a Sixers

519
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: fan though, this is I mean, you gotta be just

520
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 5: I know you're used to it to some extent, but

521
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 5: come on, here you go again. And it just like

522
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 5: the stink over their team heading into the season is

523
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 5: already palpable. Like it's like again Nick Nurse, I forgot

524
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 5: he was the head coach, Like, oh my gosh, same,

525
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 5: here you go, sir, Good luck with this one.

526
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but think about it. Twelve months from now,

527
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: Tobias Harris contract ends.

528
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: But anybody in free agency anymore, nobody does unless you're

529
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: in Miami or in LA. And who is signing Philly?

530
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 3: Fred van Vliet went to the Houston Rockets.

531
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 2: What big name is signed in Philly? Well, Pascalsiakam, who

532
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 2: just got rid of Nick Nurse in Toronto.

533
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a decent combo. I'm just saying that things

534
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: do change pretty damn quick. Things do change very quick.

535
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a rough year if they don't

536
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 3: trade him. But Daryl Moury will sit out, He'll chill

537
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 3: and trade him for something at some point, and you

538
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: know that Joel embiat is good enough to take them

539
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: the forty five wins, like they will be an above

540
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 3: five hundred team at the deadline, and then they'll add

541
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 3: something and then they'll go into a playoff run and

542
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 3: they won't be contender contender. But is it much worse

543
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 3: going with Tyrese Maxi as your starting point guard and

544
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: Joel embiid a is your center in this supporting cast

545
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: than with Harden and they play a little differently, Like

546
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 3: is it much worse? And they go trade for a

547
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 3: part and they try and do this again next year.

548
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 3: I mean, it sucks like embiid There is an end

549
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 3: of the line with embiid for sure, Like it's going

550
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 3: to end at some point.

551
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 5: I think the part you want to avoid though, as

552
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 5: an organization with you know at least hopes to compete

553
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 5: for a championship. It's an MVP guy and a new

554
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 5: coach and all that and a young talent and Maxie

555
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 5: and some other good pieces. Is I do not want

556
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 5: another year of heading into the season where every question

557
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 5: is about James Harden when you're gonna trade him? Or

558
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 5: is he showing up at camp? Oh what did he

559
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 5: do this time? Oh my god, he was eating a

560
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 5: donut out on the practice court. Like you don't want that.

561
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 5: You can't have that.

562
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I know you could you really think so?

563
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 3: You really don't. Ideally they want to trade him. Yeah,

564
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 3: the thing you want to avoid is one of your

565
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 3: best players calling your GM a liar. For sure. Yeah,

566
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 3: you want to avoid that ideally, But it happened. Maybe

567
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 3: it was a fake video.

568
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: People say a I for a.

569
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 5: Little bit, there was that going about any other thoughts

570
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 5: on Harden versus Maury? Uh and where we go from

571
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: here in this leverage play? And and uh yeah, really

572
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 5: what's next?

573
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: Who could surprise the seventy six ers with an offer?

574
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 3: A question?

575
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 2: Right like people will bandy about the Bulls, whether it

576
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: be Levine included on a trade with a little bit

577
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: longer contract and more youth, or DeRozan who's got a

578
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: deal that kind of matches up with Harden as well.

579
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 2: I could see them maybe doing that if they decided

580
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: that they're gonna pull the plug on this era of

581
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 2: the team Portland, I guess could get in the mix,

582
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: right like at this point more he could be like, fine,

583
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 2: we're sending Maxie out, bring in Dame Lillard. We're trying exactly,

584
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: We're going all in here because and beat is thirty

585
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: years old, he's had the best help of his career

586
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 2: in the past three seasons. Who knows how much longer

587
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: that's gonna happen as he gets older in his career.

588
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: But that's exactly what Maury is hoping for, is that

589
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: people are seeing the drama here and he's just hoping

590
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 2: somebody else decides to dip in, because when there's only

591
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: one team available to trade, you're getting nothing.

592
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is what he did with Ben Simmons.

593
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 3: He was able to wait it out until Harden fell

594
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 3: on his lap. If Damian Lillard is able to come

595
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 3: to Philadelphia, I mean, that's the biggest win this that's

596
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 3: a dream scenario. Just doesn't seem like that's gonna happen.

597
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 3: And these months without heart, and like you said, it's

598
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: it's different than Ben Simmons, it's gonna be way more painful. Yeah,

599
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 3: it's gonna be way more, way more painful, way more difficult,

600
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: because yeah, Simmons in dunked the ball. It seemed like

601
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 3: that was the end and that was over this. I mean, yeah,

602
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 3: they just lost in the second round and that was painful.

603
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 3: But that's why Hard excuse me, that's why Morey made

604
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 3: the right call in not signing him long term, and

605
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 3: that's why you can't keep doing the same thing over

606
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 3: and over again. That's well then, that's why I kind

607
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 3: of have this optimistic view. It is, it's short sighted

608
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 3: and we can't really evaluate what's in Joel and beats

609
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 3: head and how much of a leash he still has

610
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: with this franchise. But why go back and do the

611
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: exact same thing. You just lost in the second round

612
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 3: with a three to two lead. You can't sign Hard

613
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 3: and so I do think it's a good move not

614
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 3: to sign him long term. But yeah, the wink wink

615
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: thing did not pay off. I mean to me, it's

616
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 3: it's a little like the Toronto scenario. Yeah you didn't

617
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 3: you lost Fred van Vliet, But do you want to

618
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 3: just be a mediocre team again? And this is This

619
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 3: is different because it's embiids prime. He's a fricking MVP.

620
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 3: It's painful, man, it is a painful scenario. I do

621
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: think they they really dream of trading him within within

622
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: the next thirty days, so he doesn't show up with

623
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: the fat suit. That would be ideal. That's that's the

624
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 3: dream man. But he's a good player. So as as

625
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: Trey said, somebody could sweep in, swoop in and make

626
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: some sort of some sort of trade. But I think

627
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: his agent partly screwed him. He played partly screwed himself here.

628
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 3: This waiting out this whole year with the CBA looming,

629
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 3: Is there a worse time to be a free agent?

630
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like you said, not a lot of

631
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: guys change teams only if you've got this monstrous cap

632
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: room and they're the ones gonna be they're gonna have

633
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 3: the cap room next year. So I don't think James

634
00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 3: Harden is signing with the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

635
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 2: Probably not.

636
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 5: All right, let's move off of that. Let's talk a

637
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 5: little bit about the World Cup exhibition games that we

638
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 5: saw this week. We'll start with Team USA. They remain

639
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 5: undefeated here in their warm up games. They defeated Spain,

640
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 5: number one team in the world according to FIBA. They're

641
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 5: in a exhibition game in Spain, though, and it was

642
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 5: a close one at least compared to the other two

643
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 5: games where they waxed what Puerto Rico and Slovenia without

644
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 5: Luka Doncins. But this was a ten point victory in

645
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 5: the end for Team USA. Any thoughts on your squad there, TK.

646
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: No, I'm a sloppy boys. They were sloppy in Spain.

647
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 2: I thought they're playing on the road. Literally in Spain.

648
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 2: The crowd was going. It was off crazy second night

649
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: of a back to back for Team USA. They turned

650
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 2: the ball over twenty times. They gave up so many

651
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: offensive rebounds. They were all over the place defensively, just

652
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: running around, biting on pump fakes a Linux style, giving

653
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 2: up open shots. I felt like they got shredded in

654
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: pick and roll and they still won. That was the

655
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: impressive thing was that Team USA actually pulled this one out.

656
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: This would be an easy game to lose, especially considering

657
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't count in the standings. We've seen Team USA

658
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 2: drop friendlies quite recently in the past, so the fact

659
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: that they were able to buckle down in the fourth quarter,

660
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: get over the refereeing and close out the game. I

661
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: thought was actually pretty impressive. This is their best shooting

662
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: game yet, which I think is good stuff for the

663
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: USA going forward. But that would have been an easy

664
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: one to lose. So the fact that they kept their

665
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: head a lot of water, I think is very encouraging

666
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: for TIMO.

667
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they shot ten of eighteen from deep. I thought

668
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 5: Cam Johnson and mckill bridges always had like a timely

669
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 5: three pointer in them in this game. And then Jalen

670
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 5: Brunson was the star. He goes nine for nine. The

671
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 5: guy was so on fire. He was like he was

672
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 5: throwing botched alley you passes that were dropping in as shots.

673
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 5: That was one of his made baskets there. So he

674
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 5: looked great again in this one.

675
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about Anthony Edwards and Brandon Ingram on

676
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 3: this team, as the bucket says, the go to scores,

677
00:31:55,080 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 3: but Jalen Bronson showing some magical footwork out there, looking amazing,

678
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,719
Speaker 3: and he's kind of a fallback option as far as

679
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 3: the score goes on this team. But yeah, twenty one overall,

680
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 3: sixteen first half points, and I think it's clear with

681
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: this team, they've got talent. They're not going to be

682
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: out hustled or outworked. This isn't an arrogant an American team.

683
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: So you saw what happened. As you said, they just

684
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 3: turned the ball over. It was super sloppy, but they

685
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 3: were able to hustle and make enough steals themselves and

686
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 3: turn things over.

687
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 5: Anthony Davis locked in on the defensive end, Anthony b Anthony,

688
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 5: excuse me, you had to steal in a block late.

689
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: He's done that a couple times in these games. He's

690
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 5: games like really like jumping passing lanes defensively.

691
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 3: And so I mentioned the starting unit, and then the

692
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: bench comes in and they just want to work those dudes.

693
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 3: When you see Haliburton, how he's working with Reeves in

694
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: the back, or how they're getting out there and they're

695
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 3: pushing any halburn had two huge steals right before half

696
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: to make it attempt point lead for the Americans before

697
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 3: they gave up that lead, and then in the fourth

698
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: quarter huge And then you've got hustlers like Bobby Portis

699
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: and Cam Johnson who's doing his job in Ben Carro

700
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: and Josh Hart obviously can do that too. So they've

701
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 3: got the great makeup on the road, and yeah they

702
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: they'll say to themselves, oh, man, like we outshot them.

703
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: If we keep the ball in our hands a little

704
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: bit more, then yeah we're good.

705
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 5: It's exactly what you want from a warm up game though,

706
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 5: like you said, you know, sort of a hostile environment

707
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 5: on the road against a good team in a close game,

708
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 5: and we didn't do everything right, but we still came

709
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 5: up with the victory, like you want those reps. Even

710
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 5: Kerr like leaned into like coaching this like a real game.

711
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 5: It wasn't like it wasn't like minutes for everybody. It

712
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 5: was like as that game got closed, he like shortened

713
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 5: the rotation and really obviously ran with it and they

714
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 5: got the victory.

715
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 2: So it was good.

716
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: TSA is now in Abu Dhabi. Two more exhibition games

717
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 5: coming up against Greece on Friday. I believe you're gonna

718
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 5: be on playback for that one.

719
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: We'll be watching join us, Yeah, playback dot tv slash nodunks.

720
00:33:58,320 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: That'll be fun.

721
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: That's a twelve pm East and start.

722
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: Oh no, they're gonna lose for sure.

723
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah no, uh no Jis of course.

724
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: No Yannis, but others Fanasi is there. He's the only

725
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: I know. It's tough. Well, yeah, the original roster has

726
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 3: Yannis on there, but Fanasi will be there, Okay, he'll

727
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 3: be He'll be potting afterwards.

728
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 5: The thing is in the actual Feeble World Cup, which

729
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 5: starts late August, USA is going to destroy in their

730
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 5: group phase. They have a very easy group, no offense

731
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 5: to Greece. Yeah, Jordan and New Zealand. America's gonna win.

732
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 5: They're gonna win and buy average like twenty five thirty

733
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 5: points in the group play.

734
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,240
Speaker 2: And then we'll get a little.

735
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: More interesting, obviously when they get to the knockout stage

736
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 5: where they're playing better teams. But that's a very easy

737
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 5: group with no Yannis from Greece.

738
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. I want to tell people to join us on playback.

739
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: It starts next Friday. I'm amped. I do want to

740
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: watch these teams, but there's also too many teams in

741
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: this tournament. Who we're looking at our preview for Friday's

742
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: playback between Greece and US. Who is that gentleman on

743
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: the right, Who is that Greek? I mean, first you

744
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: put you don't know, I forget, I forget who that is.

745
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 2: I mean, he's apparently pretty good. I think he's young.

746
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't look it's pas.

747
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,439
Speaker 3: No, no, we we will see.

748
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: I want to say his name.

749
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: Costas. Papa Nicolau will be playing former Houston Rocket Coast

750
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: of Papa Nicolau will be playing. They still have walk Up,

751
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: Papa Yanis will be playing former Sacramento Kings pick so

752
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: lots of NBA. They do have Thomas walk Up. Don't

753
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 3: don't don't try and say his name Roguff for it

754
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 3: might be that's him. Yeah, sure, you just picked a guy.

755
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: I looked it up.

756
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 5: I did look it up and I was trying to

757
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 5: find average.

758
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: Great. Why don't you put me on that?

759
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 2: Because I put on who did I put on?

760
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: N Yeah?

761
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 2: Nicky back like people know this guy, the baldheaded guy.

762
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: He's really good. And then you're like, oh he's not

763
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: playing my god, damn, who's.

764
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: Playing for They only have one current NBA.

765
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: But then I read they're like, nah, they want him.

766
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 5: And there's another vet on Grease that they just told

767
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 5: like just sit out, just rest, just chill. We need

768
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 5: you forget oh for Friday, Yeah no, no, no, for

769
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 5: like the I guess for.

770
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 3: The oh wow, really really keeping them.

771
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: Fresh, I guess.

772
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: Anyway, anyway, I'm looking forward to the tournament. It should

773
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: be fun. There are a lot of teams. There's just

774
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,359
Speaker 3: a lot of teams. So yeah, they're gonna they're gonna

775
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 3: handle the group play because they're awesome. Watching Austin Reeves

776
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:27,319
Speaker 3: out there typical the the backward is awesome. And I

777
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,439
Speaker 3: just flashed back to Steve Kirk telling Alex Caruso when

778
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: the Warriors played the Bulls, oh we want you, we

779
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 3: want you, Well, he would be taking Reeves minutes. So right,

780
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 3: it feels like it's the same same same thing.

781
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: Sure, sure, sure, oh man, Halliburton, Reeves have been incredible

782
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 5: off the bench, like awesome spark blogs like they come

783
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 5: in the game just like gets like here we go,

784
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 5: Everyone's run.

785
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: Halliburton's like, worry are run and who's running with me?

786
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a million assists. Yeah. Reeves and Anthony

787
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: Edwards to me are like the standout so far from

788
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,400
Speaker 2: like wow, if they are able to play at this

789
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: level come NBA season, that's impressive. Yeah. They both looked good,

790
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 2: like you're saying Edwards, I think he had seven of

791
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 2: his eleven points in the fourth quarter. He's definitely gonna

792
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 2: be their closer and like you're saying, he is so

793
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 2: active on the defense end as well.

794
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 5: And then Team Canada a big win over Germany. It

795
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 5: was a bit of a quick rematch. It was whatever

796
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 5: little super Cup they had going as this exhibission thing.

797
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 5: But it was RJ. Barrett who carried Team Canada to

798
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 5: the comeback victory in overtime. And he was awesome. I

799
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 5: don't know if you saw the highlights of this test. Yes, incredible.

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 5: He scored five points in the span of thirty seconds

801
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 5: to send the game to overtime.

802
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: RJ.

803
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 5: Barrett did added two more buckets in ot and he

804
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 5: went twelve to thirteen and thirty one points, perfect from

805
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 5: behind the arc, which Canada needs every three point they

806
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 5: didn't get, so that was big.

807
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 3: How does he get to his left hand and get

808
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 3: to the rim and lay it in with the left

809
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 3: hand every time time?

810
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: And they just played. They had the scouting report. That's

811
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: one of the best games he's ever played. He looked incredible.

812
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: I think I was looking up his career high in

813
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: the NBA. I think he's got a forty six point game,

814
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: so you're probably taking that one. But the efficiency, the

815
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 2: clutch scoring, that was impressive from Barrett.

816
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean Knicks fans are watching these games. Jesus

817
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 5: Brunson campus by J Barrett's on fire, we feel.

818
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: Pretty good about themselves.

819
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: I think he banked it off like every portion of

820
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 3: the left side of the back eye like he took

821
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: so many shots and he was shooting around. There was

822
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 3: some defense and he was shooting around hands, but the

823
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: banks were beautiful, unlike Dylan Brook's shot man shot. We

824
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: were talking about the Moulten ball. What's better this international

825
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: multen ball in terms of watching the rotation on the

826
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: ball versus the NBA ball, Multen ball versus NBA ball.

827
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 3: I think it might be the multen ball. Both Dylan

828
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 3: brook shot. It ain't Dylan Brooks, it ain't the Moulten ball.

829
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: I just can't stop watching that follow through. That's not

830
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 3: a follow through. That's like it's ugly.

831
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 5: Shrewder had a great game for Germany. Raptors fans. If

832
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 5: you're watching these games, you're you're at least excited about

833
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 5: what you're seeing from him. He's played really well internationally.

834
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 5: Sga had twenty five, but he had a really bad

835
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 5: eight to twenty two, zero for six from deep eight

836
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 5: board six assists and did hit some like clutch shots,

837
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 5: so that was key, and I was pumped because I

838
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 5: had just came on this podcast and talked about Kelly

839
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 5: Olinok and his stupid clothes out. So he just runs

840
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 5: at guy's on the three point line like a madman

841
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 5: and just lets him go by him with the easiest

842
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 5: pump fake, and he helped win the game. Not only

843
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 5: was he on fire, he hit a bunch of threes too.

844
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 5: He had twenty one points, but he sealed the win.

845
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 5: Kelly Olinok did by closing out on Mo Wagner at

846
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 5: the top like under control, then went with them to

847
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 5: his right. I guess to Wagner's left and got the block,

848
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 5: the game winning block there as then the Team Canada

849
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 5: came up at the rebound. I think SGA grabbed it,

850
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 5: so it was nice. Nice to see maybe he listens

851
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 5: to the podcast while he's been traveling and me getting

852
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 5: very upset with his stupid clothes out.

853
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: I sort of could too. I was pumped for Kelly.

854
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: It's too bad though, that Dylan Brooks versus Dennis Shrewder

855
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: is going to be over because they are hilarious to

856
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: watch each other. They're both such instigators. And they had

857
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 2: the moment in the first matchup where Shrewd like sat

858
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks down, went right by Brooks fell to the ground,

859
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: and then in this one, like they're chatting with each other,

860
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: then there's a I think it was a missed free

861
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: throw and Shrewd just took off down the court, caught

862
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: the long outlet pass, scored and just grinned pointing at

863
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks.

864
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 5: That was hilarious, and we do love the German crowd

865
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 5: booing Dylan Brooks.

866
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: That's next level.

867
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: So good games there from Team Canada and Team USA,

868
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 5: and obviously a couple more games here before we get

869
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 5: to the real deal. What'd you say a week from Friday?

870
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 5: Right when it starts right around the corner. All right,

871
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 5: let's take a quick break and when we come back,

872
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 5: lots more to talk about.

873
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: Have you ever gotten forging for mushrooms? Yes? Nice, I

874
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: mean I've walked through the woods, spotted a mushroom and

875
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: identified it with my sea gap, but I'm too nervous

876
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: to eat one because you could die. Buddy. Yeah, Well,

877
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: you gotta know, you gotta know where to pick them,

878
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: nowhere to flick, no, when to walk away, No, when

879
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: to eat your mushrooms when you're walking through the forest.

880
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: That's pretty good.

881
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 5: That's great because our guy Stefan, who's a man of

882
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 5: the outdoors, he's he's definitely gone mushroom hunting forging with his.

883
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: Wife, not his wife, his mother. Anyway, he seems to

884
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: know his stuff. So I heard there's some six Chantrell's

885
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: over in our neck of the woods. Fellow by the

886
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: name of Wit, include me into where the hottest mushrooms

887
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: the Decatur area are. Gotta go check his backyard, all right?

888
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 6: Well.

889
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 5: On Saturday, the Hall of Fame welcomed twelve new inductees,

890
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 5: including four NBA players, Pal Gasol, Dirk Novitzky, Tony Parker,

891
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 5: and Dwayne Wade. What a class when you're just looking

892
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 5: at the NBA players, obviously Greg Popovich going in, Becky

893
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 5: Hammond as well, among others. I don't know how much

894
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 5: you caught of this either live there on Saturday. I

895
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 5: think it was on NBA TV, or maybe you did

896
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 5: the whole thing where you watched some of the highlights

897
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 5: or some of the speeches there on Sunday morning. And

898
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 5: if you did, did you have a favorite moment?

899
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: There's too many account. I did watch the entire thing,

900
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 3: and this is after the fact, and this is after

901
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: not a fun experience trying to find it. I thought

902
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 3: I'll be able to just go on go on the

903
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: the app. I think that it would play the entire thing.

904
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 3: Was not there just a four minute wrap up? No,

905
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: there was a.

906
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 5: Lot YouTube though. I had a really good job of

907
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 5: like really ripping in.

908
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: That's where I found it, and I would say it

909
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 3: was two hours. I probably saw ten minutes worth of

910
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: ads as it just interjected with ads, bang bang bang

911
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: bang bang.

912
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: But I had no problem.

913
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: I had no problem. I enjoyed it thoroughly, even though

914
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't fun seeing all those freakin' ads.

915
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: But what ad got inducted into the day?

916
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Oh? Great question?

917
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: What would it be the general himself?

918
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah? Or do you go with like an authentic made

919
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 3: for an NBA occasion app? You know, like the Christmas

920
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: Day guys hitting shots?

921
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: Interesting?

922
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 3: I mean they could be different wings in the NBA.

923
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 2: NBA had Hall of Fame. That sounds like a show.

924
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 3: Anyways, it wasn't a fun experience, but then I got

925
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 3: there and I thought, Wow, this would have been a

926
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: great crop to be at, to just be there everything.

927
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 3: It looked like fun. Actually, even even though it was

928
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: extremely long, way better than an NBA award show that

929
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 3: we got to go to, way better than that. Uh

930
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 3: And and you're just sitting there, you think an award

931
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 3: show party, party party. Nicki Minaj is on stage, James

932
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 3: hard and staring at Nicki Minaj. But this was it

933
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 3: was good. I thought there's too many moments I thought

934
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 3: from all the NBA players, I think I thought they

935
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: were great. Becky Hammonds speech was great. There's Tony Parker

936
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 3: had personality up there. He said, he did his homework.

937
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: He said he watched Steve Nash's speech. He said Steve

938
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 3: Nash was in the crowded said I watched your speech

939
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: to get to get some tips. Guy was ready. He

940
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: said his little brother his favorite player is Dwayne Wade.

941
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: So he comes over the house and says Dwayne Wade

942
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: all the time. So Parker was pissed off at that.

943
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,359
Speaker 3: You know, there's lots of lots lots of moments, lots

944
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: of moments from Tony Parker. He said, the French Mafia

945
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 3: was in town and they cheered. So yeah, I think

946
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 3: we should go through every player. I'm ready. I'm ready

947
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 3: because it was a fun two hours.

948
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, did you have a favorite moment?

949
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: I did?

950
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 5: I assume as a Illinois boy, Dayne Wade.

951
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: I mean Dwayne Wade, Dwayn. Wade's a top five player

952
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 2: for me all time. Seeing two Bulls go into the

953
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. What a night, What a night for Chicago.

954
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: It was nice though. Pugasol actually shouted out his time

955
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: with the Bulls talking about the jump ball at the

956
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: All Star Game with his brother Mark. Obviously, Wade was

957
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: talking about growing up in Chicago, going to play in

958
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 2: the parks, playing against grown men so that he could

959
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: become a grown man himself, bringing his add up. That

960
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: was awesome. We had the Hall of Fame. Dog. I

961
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: thought that was so cool. I thought that was an

962
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: iconic moment. That was really really cool.

963
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 5: All of these features were great. Wades is like to me,

964
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: it was like next level, like how it was written,

965
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 5: how it.

966
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: Was pieced together.

967
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: I mean, it was the longest of the bunch from

968
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,479
Speaker 5: what I can remember, but it was like I'm loving

969
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 5: on every word and every part of it, Like it

970
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 5: was so good. It's like the politician, that guy is

971
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 5: so smooth with it.

972
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly that guy. He's got the gift a gap

973
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 2: and this is a place where you can talk about

974
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: your entire life in basketball. And I thought that was

975
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: so cool to see how much that Dwayn Wade was

976
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: inspired by Alan Iverson. Iverson showed up to present him.

977
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: He was wearing a suit that said Wade three on

978
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: the back. Then you got Wade talking about how he

979
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: wore an arm sleeve war number three in honor of

980
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson. And then underneath Dwayne Wade's Nay Smith orange blazer.

981
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:51,720
Speaker 2: Had to be the first guy to wear a sleeveless

982
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: dress shirt. Yeah, probably. Yeah, it's been very hot here

983
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 2: in America from past past week, so he got to

984
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 2: keep it cool.

985
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 3: Underneath this shows off the butt he shows off bought occasionally.

986
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,759
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a great technique I think by

987
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 3: Wade too, if we're getting a speech writing techniques. He

988
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: didn't address every single person one by one and talked

989
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 3: to every single person one by one, but he grouped

990
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 3: people and said all their names the important part and

991
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 3: kind of gave each of them their own, you know,

992
00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 3: a little tribute as far as groups go. But then

993
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: individuals he signaled singled the importance. One the ones out

994
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: his dad mom gab. He's got the gift of gab.

995
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 3: He's got the gift of gab union beside him and

996
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: and Alan Iverson. Yeah, he crushed it, that's for sure.

997
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 5: I always love how a Hall of Fame person already,

998
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 5: someone's inducted already has to like induct you or be

999
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 5: up there on stage with you. I remember I used

1000
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 5: to think it was silly and I never understood it

1001
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 5: and it was weird, Like, what do you mean they

1002
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 5: just sit there. That's a little strange. I'm just sitting

1003
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 5: on stage for twenty five minutes, like it's sort of

1004
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 5: like you gotta be listening, but maybe you're tuning out

1005
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 5: a little bit. But I've changed my two of them.

1006
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 5: I absolutely love it. It's cool to see who the

1007
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 5: players picked too, and there was some some obvious ones,

1008
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 5: but you know, Dirk with Jason Kidd and Steve Nash

1009
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 5: and and Tony obviously with his spurs guys.

1010
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 2: You know, Pau Gasol remind.

1011
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: Me Tony Kukach, which I was, uh, yeah, it was.

1012
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 3: Kareem Abdul Jabbar was supposed to be there, but he

1013
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 3: was unfortunately he was ill. But yeah, co coach didn't

1014
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 3: didn't see that coming, but obviously where he grew up,

1015
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 3: it it makes sense being in Europe. His story about

1016
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 3: meeting Kobe Bryant, not meeting Kobe Bryant, but his first

1017
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 3: meeting with Kobe Bryant after being traded to La was great.

1018
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 3: He said he got a call from Kobe. Kobe said,

1019
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 3: when are you coming in. It's like twelve or one am,

1020
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 3: so i'll see you tomorrow. No, no, no, no, no, no,

1021
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 3: I'll see it. I'll see it at one am. I

1022
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 3: was like, okay. So he gets in and comes to

1023
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: his hotel room and says, I'm congrats on the trade.

1024
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: I'm really happier on the team. Let's go win a

1025
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,479
Speaker 3: fucking championship and.

1026
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 2: He left, good night.

1027
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah the boy, I love you. Pas. Coming over from Spain,

1028
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 3: flew into Memphis. Saw a pyramid downtown. That's where we play.

1029
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 3: We play in pyramids. Okay, that's weird. I guess. I

1030
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: guess all teams playing pyramids. But they played in a

1031
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 3: pyramid for years, the Memphis Grizzlies for like four years

1032
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: and then became a shop.

1033
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's a damn pyramid.

1034
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 3: That's why. That's why it's hilarious. It's in the middle

1035
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 3: of the city, but now it's sells fishing gear. So yeah, yeah,

1036
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 3: seeing Coop coach was was that was great. And he

1037
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 3: went through his family and Marcus ol was in the crowd,

1038
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 3: and there was an inside joke there because he said

1039
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 3: Marcus Sol was He's a special He's a special, special kid,

1040
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: and Marcus sol just started laughing, I am a special kid.

1041
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 3: So that was pretty funny. That was great stuff.

1042
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 2: I like all the connections, like between the players, like

1043
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Pow and Dirk faced off against each other, you know,

1044
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: playing basically the same position. Obviously, the Spurs and MAVs

1045
00:48:55,440 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 2: were rivals throughout Dirk and Greg Popovich and Tony Parker

1046
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: his career. Dirk and Dwayne Wade have like a long

1047
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 2: history that dated back to both of them kind of

1048
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 2: stealing championships off each other. I loved that. Dirk kind

1049
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 2: of even mentioned I didn't always like you guys, because

1050
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 2: there was definitely drama between Dirk and Wade. But when

1051
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: it's all said and done, they're going into the Hall

1052
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 2: of Fame together. It makes it really cool.

1053
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I think you know, they do a lot

1054
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 5: of like signing autographs and stuff. Before and like dinners

1055
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 5: and stuff like that leading up to the actual ceremony

1056
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 5: there on the Saturday night. Yeah, Dirk and Wade, I

1057
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 5: believe both spoke about like, yeah, we did not like

1058
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 5: each other obviously, but head butted heads as competitors in

1059
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: the NBA. Had respect for each other, but there were

1060
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 5: times where we hated each other. And you know, it's

1061
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 5: been cool to be around each other these last couple

1062
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 5: of days and like we've completely squashed it, obviously, and

1063
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 5: now we're in the Hall of Fame, which is really neat.

1064
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 5: At the same time, I had like, I mean myself included,

1065
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 5: but like I watched a lot of these on the

1066
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 5: Sunday morning and I just had like Nora crying every

1067
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: ten minutes, like, oh, watch this clip and she's like,

1068
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,959
Speaker 5: you know, the Wade with his dad, like tears were going,

1069
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 5: the Wade and iverson the Becky Hammond and pop like

1070
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 5: there was all these the Paugasong Kobe little trivia, like,

1071
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: oh my goodness, it was heavy stuff, but they all

1072
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,720
Speaker 5: knocked it out of the park. And what an incredible class.

1073
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 5: And let's talk a little bit now about active NBA

1074
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 5: players who will make the Hall. And again I said

1075
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 5: this off the top. We're gonna do an entire podcast

1076
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 5: on this, probably next week. But Mike Workanoff at The

1077
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: Athletic had a great article sort of breaking the active

1078
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 5: players that can make the Hall into tears. And the

1079
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 5: only one we're going to show you here today and

1080
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 5: I want to get your opinion on, was the active

1081
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: locks that Mike Workanoff had again at the Athletic or

1082
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 5: the Athletic, Dot comp slash No Dunks, get yourself a subscription.

1083
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:34,319
Speaker 5: We show it here to everybody on YouTube. And the

1084
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 5: list is pretty lengthy when you think about it, but

1085
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 5: it's Giannis, It's curryd Anthony Davis, It's Kevin Durant, Joel Embiid,

1086
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 5: Draymond Green, James Harden, Dwight Howard, Lebron, James Jokic, Kawhi,

1087
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 5: Damian Lillard, Chris Paul, Klay Thompson, and Russell Westbrook. Again

1088
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 5: active locks in theory for the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame.

1089
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,360
Speaker 5: We will talk about the ones that are a little

1090
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 5: in the mix or borderline Hall of Famers, or maybe won't.

1091
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: We'll do that on its own entire show. But of

1092
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 5: that list, was there are there any that you're.

1093
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: Like, active locks. Really, Mike, really or you have no

1094
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 2: issues with that? Again, pretty lengthy list. I agree with

1095
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: Mike Workanoff. I actually think all of those guys will

1096
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 2: eventually make it into the Hall of Fame. If you're

1097
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: talking about just NBA careers. I suppose Anthony Davis is

1098
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:28,240
Speaker 2: probably the most questionable, but he made the top seventy

1099
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: five players of all time. You factor in his college

1100
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: as well, he is absolutely a lock. Indeed, getting in

1101
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 2: an MVP that makes him a lock. But the question

1102
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: to me for all those guys, who's getting in it

1103
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: on the first ballot? I think is a little bit

1104
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 2: more interesting because all of those guys are Hall of

1105
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 2: Fame players, But first ballot Hall of famers, I think

1106
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: there's only eight Lebron, Steph Durant, Jannis Jokic, Chris Paul Kawhi,

1107
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: Leonard and Russell Westbrook In the last two I'm a

1108
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 2: little up in the air on but I think those

1109
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 2: eight are first ballot.

1110
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 3: Personally, everybody always overlooks Kawhi for sure. Two final, Yeah

1111
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 3: he's getting in. Yeah, you're right. Is it a first

1112
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 3: ballot MVP guy? When you look at the resume, he

1113
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: should be a first ballot guy, but we always overlook him.

1114
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 3: Maybe it's his personality. Yeah, but they're all getting in,

1115
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: that's for sure.

1116
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: On that list there.

1117
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think of that list, I don't know

1118
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 5: if you want to throw it up again.

1119
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:23,839
Speaker 2: JD.

1120
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 5: Trey and I were talking about it pre show. Most

1121
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 5: of them, well a lot of them are on the

1122
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,759
Speaker 5: top seventy five Anniversary Team top seventy six.

1123
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,280
Speaker 2: Really, if we're getting specific.

1124
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 5: The only ones that weren't that we could remember were

1125
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 5: Joel Embiid, Draymond Green, Dwight Howard, jo.

1126
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: Kic, and Klay Thompson. I think those were.

1127
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 5: The five that did not make the Anniversary Team there,

1128
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 5: But otherwise everybody else was on it, including Yeah A

1129
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: D and Damian Lillock. I mean, you look back now

1130
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 5: and it's like, oh, they should have tooken A, tookn

1131
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 5: a nice risk and had put Yokic on that before

1132
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 5: the MVP would have been would have been perfect and

1133
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 5: what he's done.

1134
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 2: But well, he had one at the time, didn't he

1135
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: did he have one? Yeah? He had one because it

1136
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 2: was yeah, last you run and then he won the

1137
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 2: second one, So yeah, he should have been on there. Absolutely,

1138
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: But there are guys who get into the Hall of

1139
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 2: Fame and it takes him a little bit of time,

1140
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 2: like Reggie Miller wasn't a first Hall of Fame guy,

1141
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 2: Ben Wallace, Chris Webber, like Weber and Joel embiid kind

1142
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 2: of similar, except for Embid has An Mvpie. Took Chris

1143
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: Webber eight years to get in, So I mean, obviously,

1144
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 2: I'll Embid still had a long time to play in

1145
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 2: the NBA. Willard will be around for quite some time

1146
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: as well Anthony Davis. So maybe they get to first

1147
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: ballot status, but it all depends on who else retires here.

1148
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: You retire and then it's like a three or four

1149
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: year window. I think they like to do for players.

1150
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 2: Three years, I think you have to be fully retired,

1151
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 2: fully retired, yeah, which I guess they don't do for

1152
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 2: they don't care about coaches. That way, you can be

1153
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: an active coaching. Maybe it's just a length of career, yeah,

1154
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 2: twenty five years or something. It probably is.

1155
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 5: But anyway, we will have and I think we have

1156
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 5: a graphic for you a No Dunk's Hall of Fame

1157
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 5: show next week where we will really go through the

1158
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 5: tears that Mike workinoff laid out in that athletic piece,

1159
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 5: and we're you know, we're talking about Demarta Rosen and

1160
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 5: his case for the Hall of Fame, Jimmy Butler, Paul George,

1161
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 5: you know, Al Horford, Like, there's a lot of names.

1162
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 5: That's going to be an entire show, and we're gonna

1163
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 5: try and set some rules. I know we talked that

1164
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 5: one of the rules should be we can say it

1165
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 5: once and that's it. But hey, Mitch Richmond's in the

1166
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,080
Speaker 5: Hall of Fame and we can only say it once

1167
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 5: and then if you ever say it again, I don't know.

1168
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:30,280
Speaker 2: We gotta have a.

1169
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 5: Shot caller on us or something like that, because because

1170
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: it's tough to do it though, because you get to

1171
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 5: these players you're like, well so, and like Mitch Richmond's in,

1172
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 5: Tim Hardaway is in, so why not X. But it

1173
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 5: gets a little boring if you say he exact time,

1174
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 5: So we gotta come at it.

1175
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: From a different way.

1176
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 3: Everyone's in, that's what you're gonna say. No, that's not

1177
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 3: what I'm gonna say.

1178
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:55,919
Speaker 6: But it's like everyone gets yeah, you agree that they

1179
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 6: got a little loosey goosey with it, and you would

1180
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 6: prefer it to be a little harder to get in.

1181
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, I like the speeches more speeches. I mean,

1182
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 3: it's it's strange. But as you said, guys don't get

1183
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: in for the first, second, third, fourth, fifth time. Oh,

1184
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: here's a crop that isn't as strong as other crops

1185
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 3: who don't have the resumes of other crops. You're in.

1186
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 5: So but that's a weird way to go, of course. Yeah,

1187
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 5: because they're making it like, well, it's up on the calendar.

1188
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 5: We need some names to put in. And it's like

1189
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 5: some people would like say, no, you don't, you don't

1190
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: have to, but because yeah, there's not these like Superstar

1191
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 5: first ballot. Okay, now we go down the list and okay,

1192
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,000
Speaker 5: I guess you're hey, Lucky for you, there's no one

1193
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:38,440
Speaker 5: else of note that we really want to put in,

1194
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 5: so you're up, which yeah, nobody wants that. I saw

1195
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 5: Zach Harper had a crazy take. He says, every person

1196
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,439
Speaker 5: we put into the Basketball Hall of Fame, we got

1197
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 5: to take somebody out.

1198
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: A pair of shoes in a closet. That's right.

1199
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, My buddy Gris does this with his T shirts.

1200
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 5: One shirt, one shirt in one shirt.

1201
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 2: That's a rule he has.

1202
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 5: Otherwise he has too many shirts. I should probably adopt

1203
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 5: that as well, but that seems a little extreme to me.

1204
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,919
Speaker 2: Idea, But I don't know, there is a middle ground.

1205
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: I feel like baseball is very very hard to get

1206
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: in to the Hall of Fame. Basketball is probably the

1207
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: easiest to get in. And the numbers are changing, right.

1208
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 2: It used to be like if you get to twenty

1209
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 2: thousand points, you are in, But players are playing for

1210
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: a lot longer now scoring is up, so these career

1211
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 2: numbers are going to change things historically as well. So

1212
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe a little bit more stringent would

1213
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: be good.

1214
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Baseball has adopted another streamline to get guys

1215
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 3: in on a different path, more like the analytical path,

1216
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: and basketball kind of has to go to the other direction,

1217
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: has to adopt a system to make it a little

1218
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: bit more strict to get in and make it a

1219
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 3: little tougher.

1220
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 5: And the Basketball Hall of Fame is like it's a

1221
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 5: mystery how you even get into the Hall of Fame. Like,

1222
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 5: at least with baseball, it's all these the writers, right.

1223
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 5: It goes to a vote basically, and they have to

1224
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: achieve a certain percentage on somebody's ballot or on particular

1225
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 5: people's ballot to get in, but NBA, we don't. It

1226
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 5: feels like sometimes it's just Jerry Clangelo gets to decide

1227
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 5: that there might be there has to be some sort

1228
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 5: of committee, but we don't really ever know about it

1229
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,120
Speaker 5: or how they're voting, or how close they are to

1230
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: getting in all that.

1231
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 3: That's right, it's true. It's just Jerry sitting there in

1232
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 3: the crowd. Everybody sort of thanked him, like, oh, thanks, Jerry,

1233
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 3: thanks Jerry. Camera switches to him. He's like, yeah, I'm

1234
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 3: the guy, and I think it is weird. It's weird

1235
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 3: how guys get it. Like Greg Popovich must have told

1236
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: Jerry Clangelo, don't put me in. Don't put me in.

1237
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 3: Why wouldn't he have been in twenty years?

1238
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that may have been the case.

1239
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh for sure, Wait until all my guys are in. Yeah,

1240
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 3: went in with Tony, went in with Tony.

1241
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: Got played off when he yeah, when he said, duh,

1242
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: these are the reason I'm in the Hall of Fame,

1243
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 2: get him out of here.

1244
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 5: Plays himself off, right, because the joke was he's setting

1245
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 5: up like I don't have to say much. I'm in

1246
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame because of these guys the dumb

1247
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 5: heart and then okay, clap clap, clap, A motor shot

1248
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 5: came out. Didn't Yeah, okay, we're not we're popo bitch obviously,

1249
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 5: leans come on, get out of here.

1250
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,919
Speaker 3: Pop. Yeah, got mad. He said, that's not what I said.

1251
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 3: That's not what I said. You're not. Yeah, he said,

1252
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: listening is important. Get work on that skill. Although he

1253
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 3: didn't see he didn't say it exactly like that, it

1254
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 3: did seem like he was going to go on for

1255
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,520
Speaker 3: a while. But I think that was. That was an

1256
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 3: incredible moment seeing pop Pop cry, Pop cried, Becky Hammon

1257
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 3: made Pop cry. Yeah, that was. That was an awesome moment.

1258
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 5: All right, So No Dung's Hall of Fame show debating

1259
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 5: all the active players and the likelihood of them making

1260
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 5: the Hall next week. All right, put it in pencil,

1261
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 5: we'll figure out the day. We gotta take one more

1262
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 5: break when we come back Twitter tonight. You want to

1263
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 5: hear my team real quick?

1264
00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I put some work in.

1265
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 5: It's changed a lot. But you know, as you get

1266
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 5: better players, better cards, train them up, greade them, blah

1267
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. My team right now, Lowry Booker

1268
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: Igo Dolls, my small forward. Chris Webber, you were just

1269
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 5: talking about it, and then I did put chack in there.

1270
00:58:58,200 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 5: That that one I unlocked for ugg.

1271
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 2: Hey man, join your crew here, all right?

1272
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 3: Oh you did it?

1273
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go figured it out doing my crew.

1274
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 5: I'm horrible when it comes to my own player old

1275
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: skeezee and my yellow jersey and my white shorts. I've

1276
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 5: played some people, I've won some games, but I've gotten

1277
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 5: killed in others.

1278
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 2: It looks like you're five and five and two so far.

1279
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 2: Oh that's not bad.

1280
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll take that cool.

1281
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Speaker 2: Player level three on your way up player level one.

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Speaker 2: That's why I got Joe Ingles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got people people in the stream team saying

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Speaker 3: I literally deleted that at because I got so addicted

1285
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Speaker 3: to Chandler mccash.

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Speaker 2: It's fun.

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00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very very fun. It's addictive.

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00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I customize my guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that part's very fun.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I look like Taylor Horton Tucker right now.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, let's get to tweet.

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Speaker 2: Of the night.

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00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night. Wow, what are we.

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00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 2: Doing with this? By the way, do you have to

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00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: change this? Twe Do you think about that? Actually, how

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00:59:57,680 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: about just I saw this on the internet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, out of the night, Like it's like something deep

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Speaker 3: thing logged on thing that yeah, logged on, Yeah, logged on.

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Speaker 5: It's not that Yeah, Okay, that's true because we've looked

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Speaker 5: at Instagram accounts and the tiki talking. Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 5: gonna talk about my my car tonight.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well it's still tweeting the night to me. God

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Speaker 2: damn it.

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Speaker 5: On Sunday, the Minnesota Timberwolves announced they're new twenty twenty three,

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 5: twenty four NBA City Edition uniforms. We are showing them

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Speaker 5: to you on YouTube. They are blue baby, we run

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Speaker 5: deep an ode to summer lake life in Minnesota. Yeah,

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01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 5: they got ten thousand lakes up there in Minnesota. We

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Speaker 5: got Conley and Nazried showing them off. Yeah, a little

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01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 5: lake water texture. Some people say it looks a little

1311
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 5: too smoky, not enough like water, but I don't mind.

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Speaker 5: I'm I am a fan of these. But let's get

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Speaker 5: your opinions. Guys, what do you think of these City

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Speaker 5: Edition Wolves jerseys?

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Speaker 2: I would say fire, but you know, water. Actually, they're great.

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01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 2: These look really cool, definitely unique and it still plays

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Speaker 2: off like Minnesota's general jersey set with kind of on

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Speaker 2: their dark blue jerseys. They have white shoulders just like

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01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 2: they do here, and this just kind of amps it

1320
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 2: up to me. This is kind of what the city

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01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 2: program is supposed to be, like, make it look crazy

1322
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: like we haven't seen anything that really looks like this,

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Speaker 2: uh so far, so I'm in Yeah, I love these.

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Speaker 3: What do you think that's yeah, I'm totally with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they could be looked at as smoky as opposed to water.

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Speaker 5: It's tough to make that water texture.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why Avatar took so long. That's right.

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Speaker 5: I've seen the other items. I forgot to pull pictures.

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01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 5: But the other items part of the collection, I don't

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01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 5: know how deep you went on this and that some

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01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 5: nice thing you would like some of these. There's a

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Speaker 5: we run Deep bucket hat and sure that I think

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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 5: looks really good. And there is a cream colored hoodie

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 5: that says Purified by the waters, and then it's got

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Speaker 5: little wolves.

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Speaker 2: Look, it's nice.

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01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 5: We got some nice things part of this collection, so

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Speaker 5: uh go check it out.

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Speaker 2: Some of the promos are awesome. I know, I know,

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01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: I like it. I also in launching this, I learned

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 2: about a new rapper. I had never heard of this

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01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota rapper named Young Gravy.

1344
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 5: But he was the one that, uh, they sort of

1345
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 5: had up the little little festival or whatever you want

1346
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 5: to call it, out on the dock where he came

1347
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 5: up in a bathroom and then he took his bathroom

1348
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Speaker 5: off and he had the jersey on.

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01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have you heard a Young Gravy? I've never heard

1350
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:40,919
Speaker 2: of this guy.

1351
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 5: His number one song, I believe is Betty. It's called Betty.

1352
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 5: It's got forty million views on YouTube. You know what

1353
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 5: it's samples. Rick Astley's never going to give you up.

1354
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 4: I'm serious you for this one, Young Gravy.

1355
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: No, the only Minnesota rap but I know is slug

1356
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 2: the guy right vaguely you know what you're talking about?

1357
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 3: Just rappers?

1358
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, this is this is cool.

1359
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: If I was from Minnesota, I would be in on

1360
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: and getting some of this gear. Yeah yeah, there you go.

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01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:15,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let us know what you think of

1362
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: the new Minnesota Timberwolves.

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01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 3: What are they calling that blue? What do they call

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01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 3: it call spacific blue lake water? It's a dark lake,

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01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 3: but it's a beautiful blue. I mean, the Greeks could

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01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: be a wearing that blue on.

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01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 5: What's your what's your favorite lake.

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01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: In the world of lakes in the world talking to

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01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,720
Speaker 3: great lakes.

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Speaker 5: In the world and not Minnesota lakes, since there's ten

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01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 5: thousands of them. You have a favorite lake, so you've

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Speaker 5: Goelake Michigan. It's great lake. I mean, yeah, I love

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01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 5: Lake Michigan.

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01:03:53,720 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: They should rename it Lake Illinois. That's my hottest lake.

1375
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 3: Take I've got a better one, Superior.

1376
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 2: And JD. Do you have a.

1377
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 3: Favorite favorite lake?

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01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh? I'm an Ontario man, obviously right, but we are

1379
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 1: not a great light. They both named great lakes. You said,

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01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:21,600
Speaker 1: no great I.

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Speaker 2: Know, somebody name you another lake.

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01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 1: It's not a great leg Get me Ontario is a

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01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: great lake?

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01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yeah, I'm not saying he did. I don't care.

1385
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: What's the contest the name of lake that's not a

1386
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 3: great lake. Oh, that's the worst thing.

1387
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: I get at it clear Lake Clear Like.

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Speaker 2: This is gonna sound stupid, but it's the NBA off season.

1389
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 2: So I've been spending a lot of my evenings watching

1390
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 2: old bass master classes. Watched one last night where these guys,

1391
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 2: these anglers, were pulling ten pound bass out of Clear

1392
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:57,640
Speaker 2: Lake in California. Cast after cast after cast. We've never

1393
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 2: seen this. It was two thousand and seven. It was

1394
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 2: on ESPN though, so I was watching the bottom line

1395
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 2: Lebron James. He was still playing in two thousand and seven,

1396
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 2: Just so you know, No, mar Garcia Para I think

1397
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 2: he was a Los Angeles Dodger at that point reading

1398
01:05:15,120 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: I couldn't ignore. You know, I'm watching a fifteen sixteen

1399
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 2: year old bass tournament that's forty five minutes long, trying

1400
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: to learn some tips from Rick kluon seaw Grigsby Hank

1401
01:05:27,080 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 2: Parker like fisherman, Dude, there's a dude in the last

1402
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 2: name named Pete Pods. The host is fish Fishbird would

1403
01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: be like h feel like if if a basketball host

1404
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:52,400
Speaker 2: was named Bucket Bucketsmith. Pretty cool.

1405
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 5: All right, let's hear your thoughts on those jerseys, your

1406
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 5: favorite lakes and everything else.

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01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 3: Ricky shout out to Vivec g uh Lake Louise beautifully.

1408
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 5: Hey, don't sleep on Emerald Lake once you're up there though.

1409
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 2: That's gorgeous.

1410
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: Now then you die if you slept on it.

1411
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: Oh, you could be able to raft.

1412
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 3: I guess you could.

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01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 5: Guys, we're gonna have a show tomorrow, at least some

1414
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 5: of us are.

1415
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: Not me. I'm headed home to see that beautiful lake

1416
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 2: Erie with my own eyes. I'm going to Toronto for

1417
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 2: a week.

1418
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 5: But the guys will be here because later today on

1419
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 5: NBA today they're going to announce the in season tournament schedule,

1420
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,840
Speaker 5: having a little release party three pm Easter from there

1421
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 5: on ESPN. So you guys are back tomorrow here from

1422
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 5: the Classic Factory to uh at least look at the

1423
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 5: in season tournament schedule, the Christmas Day schedule, the opening

1424
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,959
Speaker 5: night schedule, and I guess you know a little bit more.

1425
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 2: They're really uh.

1426
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 5: Directed this one out. Give us the schedule, man, you know, man,

1427
01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 5: you know what I'd like to do, a little boys

1428
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 5: trip to New Orleans. Catch a little Saturday Pelicans, little

1429
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 5: Sunday Saints.

1430
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 2: Let's go quick trip.

1431
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 3: Why not? Right? How far is it hours?

1432
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: No? I mean a quick flight. It's like an hour

1433
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,800
Speaker 2: and a half. No, probably maybe less. Pelicans Saints right,

1434
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: just line in the Benson's pockets.

1435
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: Huh.

1436
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 2: So I want the schedule so we can start.

1437
01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:33,040
Speaker 3: Juels will take care of us.

1438
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: That's why you want to go to New Orleans? Tell

1439
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 2: us about I'll bring my dog, show him all right.

1440
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 2: So that's tomorrow we will have a show.

1441
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 5: The guys will be here from the Classic Factory talking

1442
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 5: a little bit about the NBA schedule.

1443
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 2: Join them at ten a m.

1444
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 5: Eastern Live here on YouTube. Podcast soon to follow, and

1445
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,920
Speaker 5: then on Friday we already told you, twelve pm Eastern

1446
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 5: USA Greece playback another little warm up exhibit game between

1447
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 5: those squads twelve pm Eastern, and we'll share that link

1448
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,560
Speaker 5: with everybody. We'll put it in the show notes. Thanks

1449
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 5: for joining us here, a crazy classic, no doubt. Subscribe,

1450
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 5: comment away, and hit that light button until we see

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01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 5: you next time.

1452
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,600
Speaker 2: Go to bros. You heard it here first, have a

1453
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: great time, turn up. Love you guys awesome.

1454
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember when you're green, you grow.

1455
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 3: When you're ripe, you rot.

1456
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: Happy birthday, Test?

1457
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, are you looking on your phone?

1458
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,280
Speaker 2: I just wanted to see what time it was, Okay,

1459
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 2: I I got something to say. I just want to

1460
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: see if it was still your birthday. It is? Oh,

1461
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 2: hold on, I'm going to send you on my player

1462
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:36,280
Speaker 2: card for your birthday?

1463
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 3: Can you do that?

1464
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 2: I don't fix so. I actually said test some coins

1465
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 2: earlier so we can spend it how we want.

1466
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: Where'd you get those coins? You buy them?

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01:08:45,160 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, I'll be so addicted to embrace today people