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Speaker 1: Nigh on usc Colorado and if Caleb Williams Frankly is

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Speaker 1: already a top five quarterback talent in the world. Chad Millman,

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Speaker 1: was saying this yesterday, I was talking I think it

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Speaker 1: was Jason McIntyre. I said it on the air, and

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Speaker 1: I text him yesterday. It's the strongest quarterback class ever.

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Speaker 1: Arizona is not the worst team. Chicago probably is. And

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Speaker 1: you'd obviously take Caleb Williams over Justin Fields and start over.

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Speaker 1: That's not even a discussion Arizona. It's gonna win the

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Speaker 1: Arizona's gonna win three or four games, and they're just

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Speaker 1: not going to be there. And they also there's also

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Speaker 1: other quarterbacks. But I would not take Drake mayover Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: I would take Caleb over everybody not named Mahomes, Josh Allen.

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Speaker 2: You and I are the only people saying this. People

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Speaker 2: thought I was out of my mind. I said that

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Speaker 2: Caleb is one of the five most valuable quarterbacks alive

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Speaker 2: right now. Totally, like if every NFL player and college

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Speaker 2: player were available. Mahomes goes one. There's some debate about

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Speaker 2: who goes to and Kallee goes before everyone other than

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Josh Allen goes before him. I would take Burrow

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Speaker 2: It does work, I would have said Trevor three weeks ago,

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Speaker 2: But he's on the short list. But that's that's it. Man.

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Speaker 2: He goes before this is not disrespectful. He goes in

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Speaker 2: a heartbeat, before Hurts, before Lamar, before Tua, before that.

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Speaker 2: He just does. Caleb goes before all those.

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Speaker 1: Totally. I wouldn't take it for Mahomes Alan Herbert. I

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Speaker 1: of he's a southern kid. It's a southern city. I

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Speaker 2: The list, and I would take him over at Herbert,

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Speaker 2: and I would take him over Herbert.

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Speaker 1: And I wouldn't because I think Herbert has been under coached.

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Speaker 1: I think if he had a reasonable offensive coach, his numbers,

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Speaker 2: He made through.

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Speaker 2: He didn't play pretty well. He played pretty.

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Speaker 1: Well and without Austin Eckler, Mike Williams late, it's just

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Speaker 2: Can I ask you a college football question. This is

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Speaker 2: And I like Dan Lanning. I like him a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's like, give me a break. Coldal I speech was

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Speaker 2: So here's my question. I think USC is gonna score

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Speaker 2: Does the country stop caring about them for this year?

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Speaker 1: He's brought in people that didn't like college football, pro fans,

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Speaker 2: He's got it. Yeah, and it's and listen, it's not

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Speaker 2: it's not poor form to say it, because it's facts.

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Speaker 2: He is. There are massive amounts of black people that

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Speaker 2: all the data and tweets it out Dion. What Dion

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Speaker 2: There were ten million people watching Colorado Colorado State game

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Speaker 2: college football, Colorado and the Tennis. Like, I mean that's true.

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Speaker 2: The you know, the first memory I have a Colorado sports.

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Speaker 2: I was never a Missouri football fan, but I'm from Kansay.

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Speaker 2: Missouri is the fifth down play. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: all right, here's my last Colorado thing. This is their

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Speaker 2: schedule the rest of the way home for USC loss,

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Speaker 2: they're gonna get. Yeah, at Arizona State when they can

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Speaker 2: Utah lost loss, they'll definitely lose at Utah. That will

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Speaker 2: took Shador and Colorado's best skill guy and gave me

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Speaker 2: I mean, because Utah has all that. When Dion's talking,

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Speaker 2: think they can go seven and five eight and absolutely

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Speaker 2: that would be an amazing series.

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Speaker 1: That would be an amazing I think it's wonderful he

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Speaker 2: He's had Wells forever. Wilds asked this and it was

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Speaker 1: I don't, well bear think he is famous because he

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Speaker 2: And like, right now, if Nick Saban and Dion Sanders

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Speaker 2: of all, there are parts of the country where Nick

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Speaker 2: everyone knows Dion. They might be more excited about Nick,

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Speaker 1: When you when you have a nickname and people in

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Speaker 1: like Mamba Kobe, Yeah, that's famous, prime Deon Sanders crime

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Speaker 1: Like usually you know it's connected to your name, but

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Speaker 2: And it's another word on its own, you know what.

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Speaker 2: It's not like like it was shack is, but it's

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Speaker 2: another word on its own. Prime means its own thing.

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Speaker 2: But right now, if someone says prime you think of

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Speaker 2: Colorado football, that's pretty goddamn powerful.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I think it's great for this. I love

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: All right, everybody, it's time for Sharper Square. Chad Milman,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of Action Network. All odds provided by DraftKings.

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Speaker 1: I went three to one and one on my blazing

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Speaker 1: they outplayed the Bengals for the first two quarters maybe

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Speaker 1: two and a half. But that's the way gambling works.

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Speaker 3: Everything you just.

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Speaker 1: My favorite bet of the week is Minnesota minus four

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Speaker 4: Sharper square kind of a eh like. There's no real

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Speaker 3: The sports book.

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Speaker 4: But the truth is there's no numbers edge, right and

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Speaker 4: the wise guys don't love Minnesota. They don't love the

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Speaker 4: they don't love the way they've been playing, they don't

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Speaker 4: It's been bet up to four. I would have felt

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Speaker 4: it because wise guys tend to jump on home underdogs.

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Speaker 1: All right, you know I like underdogs. Let me give

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Speaker 1: you three that are tasty. Listen. Sam How was overwhelmed,

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Speaker 1: a Shane Stiken issue. They're not the same offense. They'll win.

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Speaker 1: can play when you get humiliated. I'll take the eight.

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Speaker 1: It's a division rival again. Young quarterbacks are hot and cold,

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Speaker 1: eight Division rival short week for Philadelphia, Sharper Square totally sharp.

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Speaker 4: The Wise guys actually are buyers on Sam Howe. They

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Speaker 4: And he had a play where he stepped up in

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Speaker 4: I bet the Commanders at plus eight and a half.

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Speaker 4: The number actually moved down to eight, it went back

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Speaker 4: a half right now. So I'm with you on this game,

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Speaker 4: I think there's one thing. It's why betters might want

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Speaker 4: of the number. I think the public is going to

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Speaker 3: They looked good, and Eagles did look good.

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Speaker 4: In the second half, especially like Jalen Hurts has started

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Speaker 4: going to be a huge public backing of the Eagles

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Speaker 4: and so are the wise guys.

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Speaker 1: So all the odds are provided by draft kings. I

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Speaker 1: swear I saw the Patriots getting seven. Maybe I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's now six and a half. I still like it.

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Speaker 1: This feels ugly and low scoring. The best corner in

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Speaker 1: this game three weeks ago was treyvon Dish, Now it's

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Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez. The best pass rusher is still Micah, but

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Speaker 1: Judon's having another great year. The best coach. Let's not

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Speaker 1: get into it. It's an obvious slam dunk coaching edge,

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Speaker 1: and I really I believe this. I think New England's

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Speaker 1: I think they missed what we all see a number

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Speaker 1: This thing feels like twenty seventeen, twenty three, twenty That's

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Speaker 3: Look, the wise guys have bet the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: That's why it moved from seven down to six and

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Speaker 4: and at least at seven it's a key number. You're

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Speaker 4: getting a push. The debate that's going on about this

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Speaker 4: host Simon Hunter on the favorites, But this has been

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Speaker 4: a game that we had a fierce debate about today.

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Speaker 3: I actually think this is a huge get right spot

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Speaker 4: Their red zone against Arizona was terrible. This is an

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Speaker 4: in these spots as a favorite at home as a

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones might be terrible, and we can.

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Speaker 4: Say all we want about he played in a monsoon,

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Speaker 4: or he's played really good defenses. He has had plenty

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Speaker 4: So it's a very good chance that he's just not

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Speaker 4: very good. And you're betting on a guy who's not

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Speaker 4: have a really dynamic offense. Not my favorite bet, I'm

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Speaker 1: I have kind of a belief now that once the

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Speaker 1: of surprise what they dominated that game. Since then, Seattle's

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Speaker 4: Sharper square an interesting choice. It's a sharp play, but

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Speaker 3: It's a sharp play because it's a short number.

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Speaker 4: Is what you just said about the Giants, like they're

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Speaker 3: Is still bad. He just had one good game.

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Speaker 4: But everyone thinks that about Geno until he has six

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Speaker 4: with you on this, but definitely not one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so then we play the game. Oh, I have

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Speaker 1: one more before we play the game.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: So Cleveland minus two and a half at home again

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Speaker 1: the league. Baltimore's left tackle may play not one hundred percent,

433
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Speaker 1: same with their center. This is Baltimore, their beat up

434
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Speaker 1: in division game. I usually take points. I don't think

435
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: we like Cleveland because of their quarterback and their history.

436
00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 1: This defense is Niners, it's Steelers. It's insane. Baltimore remains

437
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: some new perimeter weapons, new coordinators, still figuring themselves out,

438
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Speaker 1: still players coming back on one hundred percent. I'd swallow

439
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Speaker 1: the two and a half. I'll take Cleveland minus two

440
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Speaker 1: and a half.

441
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Speaker 4: Sharper square totally sharp, but it has to be two

442
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 4: and a half. At three, nobody's buying, but at two

443
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 4: and a half, everyone's buying.

444
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Speaker 3: From a professional perspective.

445
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Speaker 4: What you're saying, like this defense is just it's sick,

446
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 4: Like all the film breakdown you can do. You've probably

447
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 4: had Cosella on to talk about this, like Miles Garrett

448
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 4: is playing at a defensive Player of the Year level.

449
00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 4: From the front four to the back line, they are

450
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 4: just stacked and playing incredibly well. Look, I think they've

451
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Speaker 4: had there have been thirty something possessions against the Browns.

452
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Speaker 4: There's been one trip to the red zone against them,

453
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Speaker 4: Like the Steelers, they didn't get into the red zone.

454
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Speaker 4: It was all defensive touchdowns. Like this defense is insane.

455
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 4: And Jim Schwartz might have, who has had had great

456
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Speaker 4: career as the defensive coordinator, might have the best level

457
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Speaker 4: of talent that matches his philosophy that he's ever had.

458
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Speaker 4: I agree with everything you said about Baltimore. What's tricky

459
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Speaker 4: about Baltimore And this is one of those things again,

460
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Speaker 4: are you betting what you're seeing on the field? Are

461
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Speaker 4: you betting what history has told you. Lamar Jackson is

462
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Speaker 4: a favorite, terrible. We saw it against the Colts last weekend.

463
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Speaker 4: Lamar Jackson as an underdog, almost unbeatable. John Harbaugh as

464
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Speaker 4: an underdog one of the best coaches in the past

465
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Speaker 4: twenty years. A road division underdog at three you kind

466
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Speaker 4: of got a pass, or take the dog at two

467
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Speaker 4: and a half.

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Speaker 3: You're going to take the favorite.

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Speaker 1: All right, Now we play the game. I give you

470
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Speaker 1: a game that I want to be talked into, and

471
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Speaker 1: then a game that I totally missed Los Angeles Rams,

472
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Speaker 1: element of surprise game that look great. Since then the

473
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Speaker 1: offense is okay. Another road game. Indianapolis gets Anthony Richardson

474
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Speaker 1: back Shane Steiken's excellent. Their D line and O line

475
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Speaker 1: combos actually pretty good. I think Indy is going to

476
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: be a roller coaster team. But Anthony Richardson actually is

477
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Speaker 1: a young quarterback, takes some time off, watches the game,

478
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Speaker 1: extra time to prep with a great OC. I think

479
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Speaker 1: I would take Indianapolis minus one and a half the Rams.

480
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Speaker 1: Another road trip, short week, go home, come back. Think

481
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Speaker 1: I would take Indy Here, Sharper square.

482
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Speaker 4: I think you want to rethink that you're going to

483
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Speaker 4: want to take the Rams. That's the sharp side. It's

484
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 4: actually a big, big favorite of the wise guys this week.

485
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: They're all buyers on Matthew Stafford.

486
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: He's actually having a really good year and if you

487
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Speaker 4: look at that game against the Bengals, there's a couple

488
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Speaker 4: of plays that stand out that win against them. You know,

489
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 4: we've talked about this on the show. We do this

490
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Speaker 4: thing at Action Network called the Luck Rankings, which basically

491
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Speaker 4: takes all of the unpredictable plays and puts them into

492
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Speaker 4: a formula with the predictable plays and tells you, if

493
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Speaker 4: everything was even, what should the score of that game

494
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 4: been and the Rams would have won that game. And

495
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Speaker 4: the biggest differential between teams that have gotten lucky this

496
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Speaker 4: far in the season and the teams that have gotten

497
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Speaker 4: unlucky this far in the season is between the Rams

498
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Speaker 4: and the Colts in this game. So to me, if

499
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: I just see that, I'm automatically going to play the Rams.

500
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Speaker 4: But the numbers also stack up too. Stafford is a

501
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: better quarterback. This Rams defense is playing better than people expect.

502
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Speaker 4: Anthony Richardson huge fan like, it's Bijon, It's Anthony Richardson,

503
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 4: and it's Shej Shrapt if you're talking about offensive rookie

504
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 4: of the Year. But again, it'll be his first game

505
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 4: back after a concussion. It's not like he's whipping the

506
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 4: ball downfield. It's sixty yards per attempt, right, so he's

507
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 4: not blowing it up. I think he's a really good player.

508
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: But I think the Rams as short dogs is the

509
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Speaker 4: play here.

510
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I call the game to talk me

511
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Speaker 1: into all right, what did I miss? What's sometimes an

512
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: ugly one? I did think about Jacksonville. My guess, I

513
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: thought Jacksonville's the side against Atlanta. That's what it felt.

514
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Speaker 1: That's one of the ones I didn't put in, but

515
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: I thought that's an ugly one. My guess is Jacksonville overseas,

516
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: there's a little pressure on them and they're not really

517
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: up for it. I almost love them playing overseas and like,

518
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna get out of this country,

519
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: go do what we do, and we got really good players.

520
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: Am I right? Am I guessing right here?

521
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 3: No? No, you're totally right. Like Jacksonville is the side.

522
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 4: It's the side the wise guy's like, it's sitting there

523
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 4: at minus three. But yeah, you know, there's a lot

524
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: of history to tell you that in these London games

525
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,159
Speaker 4: you want to take the favorites. There's a lot in

526
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: the field to tell you that you want to take

527
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: the jags here. Look, I think in the first two games,

528
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 4: Atlanta surprised a lot of people and made people think

529
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,679
Speaker 4: twice because they were able to come back, they were

530
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 4: able to maintain. And then what you saw last week

531
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Speaker 4: against Detroit, where a lot of wise guys were on

532
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 4: the Falcons.

533
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 3: Desmond Ritter just was terrible.

534
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Speaker 4: And so without a quarterback, this is a get right

535
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 4: spot for Trevor Lawrence and the Jags. So the wise

536
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: guys are going to be playing Jacksonville. But I will

537
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 4: give you a game that we didn't discuss.

538
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm a little.

539
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Speaker 4: Surprised you didn't bring it up, because this is a

540
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 4: perfect spot for you. The Cincinnati Bengals on the road

541
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,239
Speaker 4: at the Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans opened at plus two

542
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 4: and a half. It's gone back and forth. It went

543
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: down to two because the wise guys like the Titans.

544
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Speaker 4: Then the public is coming in on the Bengals because

545
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Speaker 4: they just won in prime time. Look, you've got a

546
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 4: team whose value is deflated because they just got demolished

547
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 4: by potentially in historically great.

548
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 3: Defense in the Browns.

549
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 4: Right, So that's the Titans, and then a team in

550
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: the Bengals that beat the Rams. The number on that

551
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 4: game had swung wildly. The Rams opened to six and

552
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: a half point Dogs, got that down all the way

553
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 4: to two and a half point Dogs because of the

554
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 4: Borough news Borough plays. He doesn't look great, but he wins.

555
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 4: Jamar Chase has a breakout game. It's a prime time game.

556
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 4: You're automatically going to have the public come in on

557
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 4: that team. Yeah, right, And so all of a sudden,

558
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 4: you've got a team that the public loves on the

559
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: road against a Tennessee team that is one of the

560
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: best coach teams in the NFL. They've got a really

561
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 4: good defensive line, they've got a really smart quarterback. As

562
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 4: much as people don't want to say they like Ryan Tannehill,

563
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 4: he plays well when he's put in a position to succeed.

564
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 4: He doesn't make the mistakes. And Mike frable Well is

565
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 4: a super star as an underdog. Colin, there is one

566
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Speaker 4: coach the past twenty years who is over five hundred

567
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: straight up as an underdog, not covering the spread. I

568
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 4: mean straight up, he wins as an underdog.

569
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Speaker 3: It's Mike Rabel.

570
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: He's the most profitable coach against the spread as an

571
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Speaker 4: underdog the past twenty years.

572
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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't pick that game because for the

573
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Speaker 1: first time this year, Burrow is playing without a calf restraint,

574
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: like he's now playing, he's practicing, he's back, and I

575
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: don't like betting against Joe when he's back and they

576
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: have to win. This game. Was that was a game

577
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: that Jay McK and I had discussed off air this week,

578
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, and now Burrow's not wearing any calf restraints.

579
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: He's one hundred percent healthy. And by the way, I

580
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: thought he played better in the second half against the Rams,

581
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: calf loosened up a little bit. I'm like, end of

582
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: that game, it was like, is pretty interesting. All right,

583
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: that's an interesting one. So I don't know.

584
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 4: I betting means doing bad things, Colin, sometimes you got

585
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 4: to do things.

586
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 3: That's listen.

587
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Speaker 1: I like Minnesota minus four a lot. You think it's

588
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: a nothing, Burger, I like it a lot. I think

589
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: Minnesota had that tip pass gone in their favor, we

590
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: would think of them differently.

591
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: It's a play.

592
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: It's one play, and Minnesota beat up.

593
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 3: What do they have?

594
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: They have the uh one of the leading passers in

595
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 4: the NFL, one of the leading receivers in the NFL,

596
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: and yet they could very much go down as one

597
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 4: of those teams like the Jeff George lad Atlanta Falcons

598
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 4: with Andre Risen right where they run up these huge,

599
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 4: huge numbers. They never scare anybody. Nobody cares about them

600
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 4: because it's just it's a sugar rush. It's empty calories.

601
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 4: You want to do something scary, Colin, You want to

602
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 4: know the number that was just moving today. It's been

603
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 4: sitting for say five days and Sunday, and today the

604
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: wise guy started pounding it.

605
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: Are you ready? Are you ready? I am New York.

606
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 4: Jets home underdogs against the Kansas City Chiefs. Tell you

607
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 4: right now, I'll tell you right now. I bet this

608
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 4: at the Jets plus ten. It had been in nine

609
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 4: and a half for most of the week. It bumped

610
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 4: up to ten. Yesterday I grabbed it went back down

611
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: to nine and a half. I'm not saying I moved

612
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 4: the number back. I'm just saying after I grabbed the ten,

613
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: it went down to nine and a half. And today

614
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 4: it's been been steaming in the Jets direction below nine.

615
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 4: So you want to talk about a game the wise

616
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 4: guys are on.

617
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 3: It's the New York Jets.

618
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Speaker 1: Can't do it, can not do it?

619
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Speaker 4: Well?

620
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Speaker 3: Did prudent, not gonna, not gonna.

621
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Speaker 1: Kad Milman CEO Action Net. We're good. See anybody, all right, brother,

622
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: good luck this week. Some thoughts watching the Packers. Well,

623
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, so, if you're a Packer fan and you're

624
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: rooting for Jordan Love, your takeaway could be, Hey, last

625
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he's been very solid in the second half.

626
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: He's been a gamer, playing from behind. I like his fight,

627
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't quit, He's got good mobility. He got in

628
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: the end zone and threw a left handed pass out

629
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Speaker 1: of the end zone. If you're not a Packer fan

630
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: and you have questions about him, you could say, last

631
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: two weeks he has buried himself in the franchise, getting

632
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Speaker 1: into a big hole, huge deficit playing from behind when

633
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: opposing defenses. Let's be honest. You know Derek Carr got hurt.

634
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: Lion's going to a more conservative mode time clock eating offense,

635
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 1: maybe play a little less aggressive prevent defense. It depends

636
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Speaker 1: on you know, your perspective. I as I've said before,

637
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to give him two Thanksgiving and then I'll

638
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: have a definitive opinion on Jordan Love. My takeaway now

639
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: is he up and down? I don't see a ton

640
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: of special although I think he moves really well. He's

641
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: not overwhelmed. He gets out of trouble, he escapes, he

642
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 1: doesn't panic. He's more than competent again in this day

643
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: and age. He moves well, good size, nice arm. All

644
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: the elements are there tonight. The Detroit lines are a

645
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: better football team. Jared Goff's a better quarterback. He was

646
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: drafted number one. He was a better high school, college

647
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: and so far pro quarterback than Jordan Love. They controlled

648
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: the game. They have a better offensive line. I don't

649
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Speaker 1: want to hear Packers were injured. You get to week four,

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Speaker 1: five six in the NFL, everybody's hurt. You know, everybody's

651
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Speaker 1: banged up. Detroit's a better football team. This has been

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Speaker 1: a laughing stock of franchise for years. And it's very

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Speaker 1: possible if golf stays in Detroit, or they draft another

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Speaker 1: quarterback and get it right, they're going to be a

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Speaker 1: very good team for several years. They have drafted well.

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Speaker 1: They have very good players. They're not having to pay yet. Linebackers,

657
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: tight end and rushers, tackles. They've got some dudes. And

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00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,479
Speaker 1: you know, for years and years, you know, you never

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Speaker 1: really trusted the ownership in the front office. I really

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Speaker 1: like the executive suite for the Lions. I like their drafts.

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Speaker 1: They've taken some swings players that I watched a lot

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Speaker 1: of in college. Amor On Saint Brown is a much

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Speaker 1: better pro than I thought he would be. I watched

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Speaker 1: every USC game of note that he played in. He's

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Speaker 1: a better pro than I thought he would be. So

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit just a better team. I think they

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Speaker 1: exhibited it again tonight. I think you know, they lost

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Speaker 1: in over a time to Seattle, but they beat Kansas

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Speaker 1: City a narrowhead. They dominate the Packers at Lambeau. It's

670
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Speaker 1: a good football team and they got really good players.

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Speaker 1: So you know, they played hard under Dan Campbell last year,

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Speaker 1: but they were just missing a couple elements. They've shored

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Speaker 1: up the defense. They're not a great defense, but they're

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Speaker 1: a better defense. And I like what I see. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think Jordan loves fine to this point. Nothing you see.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't feel overwhelmed like Zach Wilson. He's not regularly

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Speaker 1: inaccurate like justin fields. There's nothing here that would mortify me.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: Some of this is just he needs snaps. He needs games,

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Speaker 1: he needs snaps. He's been uneven good half, bad half,

681
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Speaker 1: good half, bad half. That's the sign of a young quarterback.

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Speaker 1: So you can sit on the bench for as long

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Speaker 1: as you want. Aaron Rodgers first year, he was six

684
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Speaker 1: and ten and then things even out. It's very rare

685
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Speaker 1: when a young quarterback Trevor Lawrence is a great talent.

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Speaker 1: He has bad halfs, bad quarters, bad games. So I

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Speaker 1: think if you're a Packer optimist, you have to like

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Speaker 1: what you see with Jordan Love. You look at the

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Speaker 1: first half the last two weeks as better teams. Saints

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Speaker 1: for a better team. They have a better defense than

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Speaker 1: Green Bay. I think the Lions have a better roster,

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Speaker 1: all right. But I nothing I see with Jordan Love

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Speaker 1: would would deeply concern me. I'm looking for some it's

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Speaker 1: some special maybe that develops through confidence, and but I

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Speaker 1: think in house. I talked to Tyler Dunn, somebody who's

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Speaker 1: covered the Packers now on his own platform, used to

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Speaker 1: work for the Milwaukee Journal, and he said, in house,

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Speaker 1: there's a feeling that they're a little ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 1: They feel pretty good about it. Lions ran the ball

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Speaker 1: well better than the Packers did, more yards more rushing

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Speaker 1: yards that helped a lot. Again, Packers are a little

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Speaker 1: beat up, but you know, I'm on a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a lucky streak here so far in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: The teams I had making the playoffs Philadelphia, Dallas, Atlanta, Saints.

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Speaker 1: Only the Lions in the NFC North in Seattle and

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Speaker 1: San Francisco right now would make the playoffs seven for

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Speaker 1: seven AFC. I'm waiting on Joe Burrow's calf to heel.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going on with the Jaguars.

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Speaker 1: I had them as a possible number one seed. They're

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Speaker 1: a mess. I do think they'll get healthy against Atlanta

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Speaker 1: this weekend overseas, but all in all, better team one.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to see the Lions win, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: like last year they were close, but you felt like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, they have to win one way, they

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Speaker 1: have to outscore people. Tonight they scored, but didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have to outscore people. I thought they had a couple

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Speaker 1: of calls go against them in the game. Then the

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Speaker 1: Packers had that weird call and special teams on the

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Speaker 1: field goal go against them. All evens out, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you go to bed tonight, you wake up tomorrow and

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Speaker 1: you think about Jordan Love. All Right, we got something here,

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Speaker 1: We're okay, We're fine. Doesn't mean you don't draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback in this draft. I wouldn't draft them in the

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Speaker 1: first round. The Packers don't have huge needs. I really

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Speaker 1: do like their tight ends and the receivers. I really

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Speaker 1: think Green Bay is well positioned. But this is the

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Speaker 1: youngest team in the NFL, so I think you have

728
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Speaker 1: to come in with you know, Jordan loves and experienced,

729
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Speaker 1: incredibly young roster. You gotta temper your expectations this year.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Detroit's on like the second third year of

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Speaker 1: this group. I think that ahead of Green Bay. I

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Speaker 1: think this team needs the age, and I think they'll

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Speaker 1: age pretty well. So I like the journey. I like

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Speaker 1: watching Jordan Love. It's fun. There's no indignity losing to

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Speaker 1: a really good, underrated quarterback in Jared Goff. I don't

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Speaker 1: get it. You can't tell me there's twelve guys in

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Speaker 1: the NFL better than Jared Goff. I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I think he throws one of the best balls in

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Speaker 1: the league. They have a great online Jared Goff's history

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Speaker 1: is when he has time to throw. He's good. He

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Speaker 1: made some really really slick throws tonight. I like him.

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Speaker 1: You know that. I always have the volume