Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where if we were a person,
Speaker 1: that person must be God. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in
Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio and so excited to be
Speaker 1: with two of my favorite humans, Colleen Wolf and Jordan
Speaker 1: rod Reeg. And yes, that quote will make a little
Speaker 1: more sense when we talk forty nine.
Speaker 2: Ers in event still crazy out of contacts strong.
Speaker 1: I like it. I like that you got your special
Speaker 1: NFL kickoff shirt with your name on the back.
Speaker 3: I know it's so fun.
Speaker 2: Hold on, can I make this work big Colleen energy
Speaker 2: record for you?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 3: I got a Connie thing on the back. You probably can't.
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Speaker 1: You know, we got a little bit of news, we
Speaker 1: got our TNF preview, as we do. But I'm most
Speaker 1: excited about kind of sitting down on the couch for
Speaker 1: a therapy session to try to try to help out
Speaker 1: some people because that oh and one just it feels
Speaker 1: rough after after week one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm very accustomed to being on the
Speaker 4: other side of this, you know, receiving the advice, receiving
Speaker 4: the therapy.
Speaker 5: I endorse this for everybody.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: You better love it was your idea.
Speaker 2: Yes, so thank you so much. I cannot wait for this.
Speaker 2: I feel like I've already been talking so many people
Speaker 2: just like into a better headspace after one week with
Speaker 2: their teams.
Speaker 3: So this felt just like a natural place to go.
Speaker 2: And also I have therapy right after this.
Speaker 1: This.
Speaker 4: This is a fell season where we're just we're morphing
Speaker 4: two tasks into one super task just to save time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I could if I could have one friend that could
Speaker 1: be my therapist, I think it would be Connie. But
Speaker 1: before how do we get there? Let's do some news.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Pittsburgh Steelers, who got a big
Speaker 1: road win in Atlanta. Nice start of the season, the
Speaker 1: only team in the AFC North that got a w
Speaker 1: after all that doom and gloom in the preseason, and
Speaker 1: Justin Fields I thought played pretty well in that game.
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was asked about his quarterback situation on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like it's going in a certain direction.
Speaker 6: But as I sit here today, we're preparing is if
Speaker 6: Justin is going to be our quarterback. I think that's
Speaker 6: the appropriate way to do it. Speculation is a waste
Speaker 6: of time. Russell's hurd, he's not available to us, and so,
Speaker 6: as you guys know, as a general practice, man, I
Speaker 6: focus my energy on those that are available in their readiness.
Speaker 1: I love Mike Tomlin so much, he's the best. Speculation
Speaker 1: as a waste of time, I know, Like that all
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's like, oh, maybe he would just say
Speaker 1: that for anyone, and I don't think so. I think
Speaker 1: there's actually a shift in the tone. The reporters were
Speaker 1: trying to get him to say that Russell Wilson, if
Speaker 1: he was healthy, would he be the starter, and Mike
Speaker 1: Tomlin would not entertain that at all. I think this
Speaker 1: is Justin Fields's job as long as he keeps playing well.
Speaker 4: You know what I do like about this, other than
Speaker 4: him just shutting down the speculation and sort of the
Speaker 4: news cycle that would surround any hedging about the Russell
Speaker 4: Wilson situation, is that Justin Field won't be in limbo
Speaker 4: like all the way up until ninety minutes before kickoff
Speaker 4: on this He'll have a full game week to prepare.
Speaker 4: You know he will be in that mode in the
Speaker 4: starter's seat basically, and it's not like you know, everyone says, oh,
Speaker 4: he prepares if we're the starter. There is a difference
Speaker 4: in meeting structure, in how you organize your week and
Speaker 4: how you study, in everything, because you will be in
Speaker 4: that seat and you're not again doing this ninety minutes
Speaker 4: before kick.
Speaker 2: I just love Mike Tomlin, the whole aura about him.
Speaker 2: He doesn't like hypotheticals, he doesn't like to speculate. Now
Speaker 2: normally his protocol is typically for players to be available
Speaker 2: to practice on Fridays if they're going to play on Sundays.
Speaker 2: But the more veteran you are, the less it matters
Speaker 2: that you're available on Friday. But he said, I treat
Speaker 2: everybody fair. I don't treat everyone the same. I just
Speaker 2: feel like he has these quotes all of the time.
Speaker 2: I would love to just sit down. I would love
Speaker 2: to have a beer with Mike Tomlin. That's kind of
Speaker 2: my dream beer guest in my life.
Speaker 1: But also I feel like if there was an NFL
Speaker 1: coach you'd be most likely to get a beer with.
Speaker 1: He's pretty close to the top of the list. I
Speaker 1: think you can make this happen. Combine week you see him,
Speaker 1: I'm there, ye.
Speaker 4: Mean, Combine, My wheels are hilling right now, and I'm
Speaker 4: gonna have to manifest this.
Speaker 3: I think that's very exciting to think about. But hey,
Speaker 3: justin Field's like the fact.
Speaker 2: That he didn't have any turnovers in that game, I
Speaker 2: think was such a huge plus because with that defense
Speaker 2: that they have, if they can just have someone at
Speaker 2: the quarterback position that doesn't make mistakes or put them
Speaker 2: in a bad situation, they're kind of an interesting team
Speaker 2: now in that division.
Speaker 1: Justin Field's played well in that game. I don't know
Speaker 1: if the matchup, you know, was just that favorable against
Speaker 1: the Falcons. We'll have to wait and find out. But
Speaker 1: I went to watch that and there was so much
Speaker 1: negativity about you know, they didn't score a touchdown. That's
Speaker 1: not ideal, and I didn't expect a great performance. And
Speaker 1: the first three plays were very justin Fields. He fumbled
Speaker 1: the snap on the first one, that was an issue
Speaker 1: in training camp. Maybe it's the center, maybe it's him.
Speaker 1: Then a really bad pass that was open. Short passes,
Speaker 1: you know, not always his thing. But then he runs
Speaker 1: for a first down on the third play and as
Speaker 1: the game went along, like there were a lot of
Speaker 1: key runs, but there was a great thirty six yard
Speaker 1: throw that was overturned by a penalty. There was another
Speaker 1: nice bomb down the field to Pickens later in the game.
Speaker 1: There was a nice like third and long. He made
Speaker 1: a lot of winning plays. I went and like looked
Speaker 1: at the PFF grades afterwards. He was a top ten
Speaker 1: quarterback according to them last week, Like there was more
Speaker 1: than enough. I think they were. I've been pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 1: And he's not working with a full deck of like
Speaker 1: great wide receivers, and I think Mike Tomas probably pretty
Speaker 1: excited about what's going on.
Speaker 2: But also consider this, They're going to Denver, like they're
Speaker 2: playing the Broncos and Russell Wilson is just going to
Speaker 2: be on the bench.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why did I not think about that? That?
Speaker 5: Yeah, in full pads.
Speaker 1: There is a lot of like anti fields agenda on
Speaker 1: the internet. Too. That was just like he must be terrible,
Speaker 1: but no, he's fine. Like the weirdest fan in sports
Speaker 1: right now is the Steelers fan who is like diehard
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. We got to go with Russell Wilson, Like
Speaker 1: what allegiance. Do you have to him?
Speaker 4: You know what, I think, I'm so excited to see
Speaker 4: the little quarterback throw heat charts at the end of
Speaker 4: this next game of Broncos Steelers, because bonis one of
Speaker 4: them is going to be just everything is in the same,
Speaker 4: and then the other one is justin Fields. Art Smith
Speaker 4: is doing what justin Fields likes to do, less so
Speaker 4: of what we thought he was going to do. He's
Speaker 4: acquiescing and compromising a little bit, collaborating with the skill
Speaker 4: set that his quarterback seems to prefer. Data tells us
Speaker 4: this over time, and it kind of looked like, I mean,
Speaker 4: he was slinging it wide a little bit.
Speaker 1: Oh so that all the throws were to the.
Speaker 4: Out were talking about Art Smith and how everything was
Speaker 4: going to be right in the middle of the field.
Speaker 4: But it seems like our guy Art you know, name change,
Speaker 4: facial hair change, he's going with Art.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well we decided, we've decided, okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look he's had more time with field ultimately
Speaker 1: through training camp and now the preseason game.
Speaker 4: It was enough positive plays. I think you said this
Speaker 4: on on social media. Greg, there was enough positive plays
Speaker 4: to make this regardless of the Wilson of it all
Speaker 4: to make this an easier decision. Justin Field had enough
Speaker 4: positive plays in that game.
Speaker 1: Plus he tried to return I think quickly Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: from the calf injury and maybe re injured it because
Speaker 1: he was worried about losing that starting job. Always look
Speaker 1: to the contract they only gave Russell Wilson like a
Speaker 1: million dollars. Like he's getting paid about the same amount
Speaker 1: of money as Tyler Huntley out there. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to our next story. Mike Shanahan is the father of
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, uh huh. And they both like to play
Speaker 1: games I believe with injuries and the media. And this
Speaker 1: happened with running backs, and it certainly happened in Mike's
Speaker 1: day and it happened in Kyle's day. On Monday Night football,
Speaker 1: so many fantasy football owners were upset that Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: was ruled in active and a little bit of a
Speaker 1: controversy after the game when Jordan Mason, who stepped in,
Speaker 1: told the media he found out, at least according to him,
Speaker 1: that he was starting. On Friday, Kyle Shanahan was asked
Speaker 1: about a report from ESPN that said already there's a
Speaker 1: real chance McCaffrey could miss week two.
Speaker 7: I'm saying that's amazing. That person must be God, because
Speaker 7: out he wasn't playing today, and I have no idea
Speaker 7: how he's going to feel tomorrow or the next day.
Speaker 7: I thought he was playing this whole week until today,
Speaker 7: So I don't know who knows that he's playing not
Speaker 7: playing next week.
Speaker 1: I want to believe that he's telling the truth, but
Speaker 1: coaches just do just straight up live. So what do
Speaker 1: you think is he?
Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it would be amazing if
Speaker 2: you had an inside track to God, as like unnamed
Speaker 2: source would be, that would be pretty.
Speaker 1: Hauchh Schefter and Rapidport are working on it. It's been
Speaker 1: an angle that they've been like trying to make happen.
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't of course, there's a
Speaker 1: real chance, by the way, that Christian McCaffrey isn't playing
Speaker 1: week two. He didn't play week one, and he's been
Speaker 1: trying to recover from this injury for weeks. It's called
Speaker 1: Achilles tend the night is Kyle Shannon did speak on
Speaker 1: Tuesday and said if it was a playoff game, he
Speaker 1: would have played on Monday night. But it is not
Speaker 1: a playoff game. These games only matter so much for
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean they were so productive on the ground.
Speaker 4: Even without you have space, you have like wiggle room,
Speaker 4: You have leeway to let Christian McCaffrey rest a little bit.
Speaker 4: As everyone knows, I have a very ominous respect for
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan, and especially the darkness that seems to seep
Speaker 4: through his general being.
Speaker 1: It tell me more about that.
Speaker 4: Understand, including his knowledge of, you know, forces beyond our control,
Speaker 4: such as I don't know if anyone will be a lot,
Speaker 4: any of us will be alive on Sunday. That famous
Speaker 4: quote Ohle years ago now speaks to me.
Speaker 1: That's like, hey, that's a person that has experienced some
Speaker 1: tragedy in his life.
Speaker 4: Right now, he's calling out you know, he's calling out
Speaker 4: God as a source. I mean this, this guy is
Speaker 4: walking very very close to something paranormal right now.
Speaker 1: What did he say, your ominous darkness?
Speaker 4: That I have an ominous respect, ominous respect.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 5: It's the highest compliment I can pay a bit.
Speaker 1: Let's dive into that on the couch a little bit later.
Speaker 1: It much more positive, was Matt Eberflus when talking about
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and his debut, not that we didn't mention
Speaker 1: it on the Sunday week yet, but it was kind
Speaker 1: of a big deal that the number one overall pick
Speaker 1: didn't get to one hundred yards passing on twenty nine attempts,
Speaker 1: they did not score. I mean, that's just crazy. Matt
Speaker 1: Iberflus though, saw a lot of good out of Caleb
Speaker 1: in his first game.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he would say that too, just you know,
Speaker 8: his footwork a little bit off at times, but again
Speaker 8: he threw a lot of good, good practices too. So
Speaker 8: met with him this morning and that was really about it.
Speaker 8: I thought his vision was good. Yeah, I thought he
Speaker 8: was I thought he was good. I thought he saw
Speaker 8: it well. I thought he you know, saw the coverage contours,
Speaker 8: he saw zero, you know them adjusted on the fly,
Speaker 8: you know, in terms of post snap, I thought he
Speaker 8: did a nice job.
Speaker 1: What do you think in terms of how he like?
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Mattie Befos, of course, is going to
Speaker 1: support his guy one thousand percent. I also am not
Speaker 1: encouraged after hard Knock that that one on one meeting
Speaker 1: he had with Caleb Williams was that insightful.
Speaker 4: I mean, I was kind of refreshed by his comments
Speaker 4: about I mean, he very openly and clearly we were
Speaker 4: talking about therapy. Man set a boundary in terms of
Speaker 4: the leeway and the patients that he expects the world
Speaker 4: in the outside world, especially to have with a rookie
Speaker 4: quarterback who, yes, is one of the best prospects we've
Speaker 4: we've ever seen come into the league, but is going
Speaker 4: to have days like this where even a four man
Speaker 4: rush is kind of get getting him off his spot
Speaker 4: a little bit, struggling to connect a little bit, maybe
Speaker 4: second guessing what he's seeing. I would like to see
Speaker 4: him just kind of cut loose.
Speaker 5: And play free.
Speaker 4: I think that as himself and Chaine Waldron feel each
Speaker 4: other out in live action a little bit more against
Speaker 4: live defenses, not preseason regulated, looks going to start to
Speaker 4: see them understand each other and how Caleb likes to
Speaker 4: play and really accentuate that a little bit more, or
Speaker 4: at least you hope that that's what will happen with
Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator. But yeah, I actually was really refreshed
Speaker 4: by what Mattiberflu said because he basically it wasn't a
Speaker 4: message to the media It was a message to Caleb
Speaker 4: and to the rest of the world, like we're giving
Speaker 4: this guy patience because we believe in him, and he's
Speaker 4: going to be learning in public and learning out loud
Speaker 4: for the next year. And that's what a rookie season
Speaker 4: for any quarterback is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Flus also talked about that third and five,
Speaker 2: the stop route that he thought was excellent, and that
Speaker 2: the rhythm and the timing was there on some of
Speaker 2: the plays. But I don't think anyone expected Caleb to
Speaker 2: come out and just absolutely light everything on fire, Like sure,
Speaker 2: maybe you wanted something a little bit better than what
Speaker 2: we saw, but there was some good with the bad,
Speaker 2: and then it wasn't all Caleb's fault. Keenan Allen had
Speaker 2: the huge drop on the touchdown catch. I mean there
Speaker 2: were a few other passes that could have been also
Speaker 2: considered drops potentially too.
Speaker 3: So flus is just doing what Fluce needs to do.
Speaker 1: Hey, that's us Fluspy and Fluse. I mean, you get
Speaker 1: a win without any offensive touchdowns that that is incredible.
Speaker 1: I think the interior offensive line is their number one concern,
Speaker 1: maybe of the entire team. They have a former Ram Coleman,
Speaker 1: Shelton at center who did not have a good day.
Speaker 1: They almost openly are talking about, I think wanting to
Speaker 1: bench a free agent pick up Nate Davis, but the
Speaker 1: guy who would replace him isn't quite healthy enough to
Speaker 1: do so that's Ryan Bates. But everyone who said this
Speaker 1: is the best situation ever for a rookie quarterback to enter,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you got you got some weapons. But
Speaker 1: now with Doonza's hurt and he's weak to week, he's
Speaker 1: almost certainly out this week, and you're getting a ton
Speaker 1: of pressure up the middle, and you're a shorter quarterback
Speaker 1: compared to most. That's that's a lot to deal with.
Speaker 1: Then again, they won't play against Jeffrey Simmons and Devandre
Speaker 1: Sweat every week who kind of dominated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the interior even had issues when they sent
Speaker 4: extra They didn't need to send extra pressure all the time,
Speaker 4: but they even sent another former Los Angeles Ernest Jones
Speaker 4: on a blitz and bold Coleman Shelton backwards.
Speaker 5: That was the clip that sort of went viral during
Speaker 5: the game.
Speaker 4: But to your point, like the interior pressure, no, they're
Speaker 4: not going to face fronts like this every week, but
Speaker 4: you can manufacture that as well. So shoring that up
Speaker 4: is a huge concern to me. And then also again
Speaker 4: like moving his pocket, getting him sort of working in
Speaker 4: space a little bit more, but then also layering things.
Speaker 4: You did hear a couple of times and that you
Speaker 4: heard this in Seattle all the time last year. Oh
Speaker 4: I think one of those receivers was running right in
Speaker 4: front of the other receiver and they were basically running
Speaker 4: the same route, just different lengths. And you want to
Speaker 4: make sure that if you have a quarterback who is
Speaker 4: like working on the move or out of structure, that
Speaker 4: those layers are all over the field, not just sort
Speaker 4: of stacked as if they're like nesting dolls.
Speaker 1: So Coleman Shelton, Ernest Jones, that's x X.
Speaker 5: I don't know where that even came from.
Speaker 1: So I like a little nesting dolls reference in any show. Uh,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you still manace this, you know, fit in
Speaker 1: some rams talking here you kill me.
Speaker 4: You got a bad view with That's sorry, Ernest Jones, Yes, guy,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the dynamic kickoff. How
Speaker 1: are we feeling? I just feel like we didn't this
Speaker 1: was such a big story all off season, all pre season.
Speaker 1: Can we revisit just where we're at with the dynamic kickoff.
Speaker 1: About a third of the kicks were return which doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like a lot. Actually it's not even about a third.
Speaker 1: It was exactly a third. But last year it was
Speaker 1: twenty two percent, So that's that's up like eleven percent.
Speaker 1: The average return went to about the twenty nine So
Speaker 1: but that doesn't include the kickoff touchdown, which so ultimately
Speaker 1: you were probably better off on average just kicking it
Speaker 1: into the end zone and starting at the thirty. Like,
Speaker 1: is it doing enough for you? I mean, it's making
Speaker 1: you feel something inside, Colleen.
Speaker 2: The DJ Dallas dynamic touchdown is really the only thing
Speaker 2: that made me feel some thing with the new rule.
Speaker 1: There was another long return in that game, actually, I
Speaker 1: believe by the bills yards my crazy Yes, so there
Speaker 1: was a couple. Yeah, it was a little more. It's
Speaker 1: like in the right direction. Improved field position though means
Speaker 1: more scoring. So like, even if it is all these touchbacks,
Speaker 1: the fact that the average starting field position is going
Speaker 1: up about five yards, that's kind of a win just
Speaker 1: on its own because the scoreboard will be higher. Yeah, Rien,
Speaker 1: are you.
Speaker 3: Impressed by it?
Speaker 5: Not yet?
Speaker 4: Just because and I agree and the scoring increasing. That's
Speaker 4: obviously going to be a reaction to this, just by
Speaker 4: nature of moving the ball up.
Speaker 5: But the ball is moving up.
Speaker 4: And the line of scrimmage is moving up based on
Speaker 4: a function of the rule itself, not the average of
Speaker 4: the plays that are being made from said rule. Both
Speaker 4: these are the average starting field position for all all
Speaker 4: drives after receiving a dynamic kickoff was the receiving team's
Speaker 4: own twenty nine point four yard line.
Speaker 5: So it's it's like, it's a that's what the rule is.
Speaker 4: That's a function of I wouldn't be surprised if at
Speaker 4: the end of the year, and Roger Goodell actually mentioned
Speaker 4: this last week in his interview before the Eagles Packers game,
Speaker 4: that they are open to changing this rule, to adjusting it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, talking about it in terms of moving that
Speaker 4: field position up to try to prohit, like prevent teams
Speaker 4: from just kicking the touch back.
Speaker 5: Okay, i'd i'd be into that.
Speaker 1: Thirty five is aggressive, but it would be inter I
Speaker 1: think it's a it's a small win so far, nothing
Speaker 1: too crazy. The thing that annoys me is the coaches
Speaker 1: like Sean McVay who were just afraid to compete. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to. It's I don't want to deal
Speaker 1: with the uncertainty, and so he's kicking with a touchbuck. Hey,
Speaker 1: how about you try to just be great at everything
Speaker 1: that is now involved in your football game instead of
Speaker 1: just giving up.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to be trapped into talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, a couple of small just news items we had mentioned.
Speaker 1: Derek Brown was likely out for the season. He's the
Speaker 1: great defensive tackle for the Panthers. That was confirmed as
Speaker 1: he was sent the season ending I are on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: And then Juju Brens, who is a cult starting cornerback
Speaker 1: a thin position for them, also going to injured reserve.
Speaker 1: And then finally I mentioned on Monday Night with Shook
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson received another civil lawsuit. The NFL now
Speaker 1: says it's reviewing the lawsuit that accuses Deshaun Watson of
Speaker 1: sexual assault and battery in October of twenty twenty, back
Speaker 1: when he was with the Texans. Quote, and this is
Speaker 1: from the league spokesperson Brian McCarthy. We are reviewing the
Speaker 1: complaint and we will look into the matter under the
Speaker 1: Personal Conduct Policy. We are not looking at the commissioners
Speaker 1: exempless as there's been no formal charges in the league's
Speaker 1: review has just begun. The Browns say, quote, we will
Speaker 1: respect the due process our legal system affords regarding the
Speaker 1: recently filed civil suit and follow the NFL's guidelines on
Speaker 1: this matter. So just between those two statements, it sounds
Speaker 1: like for now the Browns and the NFL aren't doing anything,
Speaker 1: but there is an investigation that the NFL will undergo.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we are
Speaker 1: going to be back and we're going to just talk
Speaker 1: about things we just can't get out of our mind.
Speaker 1: We need to. I don't know, I just feel a
Speaker 1: little more comfortable with We are back on NFL daily,
Speaker 1: and we are so lucky every week to have Colleen
Speaker 1: Will with us. I mean, what a big get for
Speaker 1: the show. It was tough. It wasn't easy to get her.
Speaker 1: So I'm so busy these days. If we've got if
Speaker 1: we have like a loose plan of maybe what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do on Tuesday, and we get a text from
Speaker 1: Colleen who has an executive producer credit now as part
Speaker 1: of this show.
Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Do I get a little bump too?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Just the credit that's how we pay you. And she
Speaker 1: come and she says, I got a new idea. We're
Speaker 1: going to flip the old idea. Let's go with the
Speaker 1: new idea. We're going to replace it. Yeah, then we're
Speaker 1: going to do it. And that I now bring.
Speaker 2: Up disrespect to the other idea, which I think is
Speaker 2: all good.
Speaker 5: Oh it was Greg's idea.
Speaker 3: No, it was it was that was the only problem.
Speaker 1: I feel like we're on the couch now. We need
Speaker 1: to work this out. But no, this is good. I
Speaker 1: think after week one there's a lot of figures in
Speaker 1: the NFL that that could use some therapy. We all
Speaker 1: love therapy. Yeah, and uh, Colleen, I want you to start.
Speaker 1: That's sort of a long winded way of getting you
Speaker 1: to start so that I can feel what this segment
Speaker 1: really is all about.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's great.
Speaker 2: Well, I just like to offer people emotional support. I
Speaker 2: feel like that's that's what good friends do. And you know,
Speaker 2: around these parts, especially this time of year, I find
Speaker 2: myself offering maybe a little bit more emotional support.
Speaker 3: Than I'm that I'm used to, So might as well
Speaker 3: just keep it going.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to send this one out to Jaguars fans, guys,
Speaker 2: you know, it's not how you start, it's how you finish,
Speaker 2: which is a shame because what a start to that game.
Speaker 3: So well.
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas Junior both had like really
Speaker 2: bright moments.
Speaker 3: The defense was really holding up in the first half.
Speaker 2: The vibes they were good until things got a little uncomfortable.
Speaker 3: But listen, I understand how quickly things can change.
Speaker 2: I watched the Eagles start ten and one last year
Speaker 2: and finish one and five. I also watched the Jags
Speaker 2: finish one in five last year. We all got hurt.
Speaker 2: We're all trying to love again. Dravesy Tin's goal line
Speaker 2: fumble not ideal. In fact, Nightmare of Fuel being up
Speaker 2: twenty four to seven would have made things a lot
Speaker 2: more comfortable. But being a football fan, it's not about comfort.
Speaker 2: It's about pain and suffering and holding on to a
Speaker 2: glie of hope. This roster is replete with talent. Ryan
Speaker 2: Nielsen is a really good defensive coordinator. The defense sacked
Speaker 2: to a three times, held the Dolphins under one hundred
Speaker 2: rushing yards, limited Miami to twenty points an offense that
Speaker 2: scored nearly thirty points per game last season. Just two
Speaker 2: touchdowns the entire game, So everybody get it together. It's
Speaker 2: just one game. Your season is not defined by Week one.
Speaker 2: It's your home opener this week, and you play the
Speaker 2: Browns who looked way more of a mess than you.
Speaker 1: That should make them feel a lot better. And I
Speaker 1: think that was excellent. Browns. They're a case. I don't
Speaker 1: think we would even want to try to tackle in this.
Speaker 5: Therapy rule number one, it can always get worse.
Speaker 1: I love the comparison between the Eagles and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: because I think the way their seasons ended last year,
Speaker 1: their fans and those teams could have used a little counseling.
Speaker 1: I gotta say that Eagles fan that and you tell me,
Speaker 1: like that win in Week one to meet felt bigger
Speaker 1: because of the way last season ended that you want
Speaker 1: to feel like this is different. So I do kind
Speaker 1: of get why it's triggering for Jaguars fans to have
Speaker 1: a seventeenth to three lead. It was like last season
Speaker 1: all over again in one game, and to start that
Speaker 1: way is tough.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was so rough.
Speaker 2: And they better win this week because they're going on
Speaker 2: the road for back to backs against the Bills on
Speaker 2: Monday Night Football and then the Texans. So if they
Speaker 2: lose to the Browns who looked the way that they
Speaker 2: did last week, and then they have to go to
Speaker 2: Buffalo and then they have to go to Houston, I
Speaker 2: hate that for that.
Speaker 1: Okay, we're out of the office now because I feel
Speaker 1: like this is putting some uncomfortable future expectations. Let's focus
Speaker 1: on what's right in front of us.
Speaker 3: You have to be present.
Speaker 1: You kind of like this Jaguars team, don't you. Yeah?
Speaker 1: I do? I do.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the talent, I like the potential.
Speaker 4: I've said a couple times this offseason. I'd like to
Speaker 4: see with this coaching staff everyone take a step forward.
Speaker 4: Closing a game such as this would be a nice
Speaker 4: start to that. But saw some really nice things from
Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, some of the windows he was fitting the
Speaker 4: ball into. I do understand, though, the trauma projection element
Speaker 4: of this Colleene, I mean.
Speaker 5: I really understand.
Speaker 4: You know, you had some demons to get out yourself
Speaker 4: and really place onto the shoulders of Jags facts and
Speaker 4: in that way you are free.
Speaker 3: Exactly like that's how you process it. You send it
Speaker 3: off onto someone else.
Speaker 1: And that was a good shout to Brian Nielsen and
Speaker 1: the coordinator because for most of that game they're playing
Speaker 1: a lot of man coverage against the Dolphins. Was a
Speaker 1: little surprising. And if you take out those two big plays,
Speaker 1: which I know is a big if, but if you
Speaker 1: took out the two other plays, like, they look pretty
Speaker 1: good in that game. The running game was good. They
Speaker 1: looked like a different team to me. It was a
Speaker 1: couple of drops really hurt of me. All Right, let's
Speaker 1: go to my counseling session. Okay, and I'm so glad
Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow is joining me here. Oh, and I'm
Speaker 1: glad he came in. Joe, I understand your concern about
Speaker 1: your one and eight record in weeks one and two
Speaker 1: in your career. That's outrageous, and it's true. The numbers
Speaker 1: aren't pretty out of forty five quarterbacks over the last
Speaker 1: few years, in those weeks one and two, you are
Speaker 1: thirty ninth out of forty five, Joe. So I want
Speaker 1: to bring up something sensitive, but you pay me a
Speaker 1: lot of money like I'm worth it, so I'm going
Speaker 1: to give it to you straight. You looked a little
Speaker 1: afraid to play aggressive, Joe, and I think that's natural.
Speaker 1: You're coming off a risk surgery. The Pats really good defense,
Speaker 1: show you a lot of disguised looks. I think you
Speaker 1: can learn from this because this is not the Joe
Speaker 1: we know Dunkin and Duncan throwing the ball short on
Speaker 1: third down when there's guys in single coverage on the outside.
Speaker 1: The Joe we know doesn't check down. The Joe we
Speaker 1: know was there at training camp. We saw it. There
Speaker 1: was proof we saw in the preseason that he was
Speaker 1: ripping it. It's not about your wrist, Joe. You just
Speaker 1: have to get used to it. And I have a
Speaker 1: theory for you, Joe, It's all about Joe cool. You've
Speaker 1: been in such big games before, Super Bowl, National Championship,
Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just like tough to feel like weeks
Speaker 1: one and two this makes me it's a little dead
Speaker 1: inside of these games like really matter. And that's why
Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you, Joe, like this is the
Speaker 1: perfect week for you. You're going to Arrowhead. That is
Speaker 1: the opponent you actually want in week two, because weeks
Speaker 1: one and two do matter. You batter Joe Burrow a
Speaker 1: six point underdog. They used to call this place Joe Burrowhead.
Speaker 1: Don't listen to uh anyone out there. Weeks one and
Speaker 1: two do matter, and I think this is the week
Speaker 1: you make all those stats go away.
Speaker 4: He does always thrive when there's something, you know, maybe
Speaker 4: he just needs a little push. Yeah, just a little
Speaker 4: push like like you're saying, and he really but he
Speaker 4: does thrive.
Speaker 5: He's got that, you know. The CJ. Strouds have that,
Speaker 5: the Matthew Staffords.
Speaker 4: Have that that little that little killer mentality that is
Speaker 4: like a switch that flips on where you're very calm
Speaker 4: and cool on the outside, but and maybe icy.
Speaker 5: You know hair ha hair reference.
Speaker 4: But but you're you're ready to just rumble on the inside.
Speaker 4: And I think that maybe this environment, this challenge, the
Speaker 4: stakes of this and also watching his own tape from
Speaker 4: this last week, and I don't know who that man is.
Speaker 5: Situation.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's gotta be a little bit of
Speaker 4: a motivating factor. Maybe we were on chip alert m
Speaker 4: for Joe Burrow, but I mean, you gotta do some
Speaker 4: creation of it himself.
Speaker 2: I think it really hit when you talked about Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow being used to these huge big game scenarios with
Speaker 2: all of like the pressure and all of the eyes
Speaker 2: just like uh, feeling something for a week one game,
Speaker 2: even though yes, it.
Speaker 3: Is a big deal, but it's like, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes during the season it's like you're in Week five.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes just in general, it's tough to feel things
Speaker 2: inside if it's not like a massive moment.
Speaker 1: I identify with that. It's why we have to work
Speaker 1: on Colleen a lot before these Tuesdays. So she's been
Speaker 1: in such a big spot. It's like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: let's bring it, let's wake up. But what a big
Speaker 1: spot this week.
Speaker 5: So I'm you're arrowhead in this situation. You're not Joe.
Speaker 4: You're I'm talking to Joe, I say, with Colleen, With Colleen,
Speaker 4: you are you are the chiefs in this situation.
Speaker 1: Now, I think I'm more the You're the biggest favorite
Speaker 1: in the league. A on a one pm game against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's NFL Daily, Like, we need to get
Speaker 1: Colleen to just feel a little more juicues. I am.
Speaker 2: This is my highlight of the week, Greg, I love
Speaker 2: all my shows equally.
Speaker 4: We got her in the headset today, Yeah that is
Speaker 4: and it looks great.
Speaker 1: All right, Jordan, you're up.
Speaker 4: Okay, you guys, this time of year, this falls under
Speaker 4: the category of desperately seeking self help. Okay, because this
Speaker 4: time of year many people go to therapy to approach
Speaker 4: the difficult to navigate dinner table discussions between opinionated factions.
Speaker 5: At the holidays.
Speaker 4: Right, this is about that time you start seeking answers
Speaker 4: and tools. So I'm here to tell you how to
Speaker 4: talk to your loved ones about Sam Donald.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my points are three. Three, My points are okay.
Speaker 4: First step in how to talk to your loved ones
Speaker 4: about Sam Donald. Point to the tape. Yes, this is
Speaker 4: a plug for NFL Pro because what a great website.
Speaker 4: Sam Donald opened Sunday's game by halftime thirteen for fourteen
Speaker 4: for one hundred and fifty one yards and a touchdown.
Speaker 4: He looked confident the entire game. Made a couple of
Speaker 4: iffy decisions, but for the most part, made good decisions,
Speaker 4: a couple of tight window throws, and the offense felt
Speaker 4: really cohesive.
Speaker 5: Step two.
Speaker 4: That he has more help in his head coach Kevin O'Connell,
Speaker 4: his receivers Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and Jalen Naylor, and
Speaker 4: his run game with Aaron Jones. Jones six point seven
Speaker 4: yards per Carrie ninety four yards four point ninety four
Speaker 4: yards per rush after contact, which is the highest for
Speaker 4: a Vikings running back since Week ten and twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Had to by colleague Allic Lewis for digging that stat up.
Speaker 4: But they're actually not playing cushion the quarterback as much
Speaker 4: as you would think, so less play action than I
Speaker 4: thought they would run. They're only nineteen point two percent
Speaker 4: play action used, and they've got him a shotgun like
Speaker 4: seventy percent of the time where he went thirteen for
Speaker 4: seventeen for one hundred and fifty six yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell is giving him multiple correct answers on a play.
Speaker 4: There's been one going around where it's at twenty two
Speaker 4: yard pass to Josh Oliver the tight end. And really
Speaker 4: what's so special about the coordination of the offense and
Speaker 4: the design of the play from Kevin O'Connell is that
Speaker 4: if the Giants coverage rules on that play dictated that
Speaker 4: three players flowed toward Justin Jefferson, leaving Josh Oliver open
Speaker 4: in the seam or under less coverage than he would
Speaker 4: have been on that vertical in the seam, if one
Speaker 4: player would have peeled away from Justin Jefferson, So breaking
Speaker 4: the tendency rules that Kevin O'Connell and Sam Donald are studying,
Speaker 4: then that's when you hit Justin Jefferson and you're able
Speaker 4: to lead him, probably for a touchdown. So even if
Speaker 4: the defense does everything right, there's an answer. If the
Speaker 4: defense does one thing quote unquote wrong, there's also an answer.
Speaker 4: So providing Sam Donald multiple answers on one play and
Speaker 4: number three. But Sam Donald has been so streaky while
Speaker 4: with the Jets and Panthers, at some point he'll be
Speaker 4: a pumpkin again. You can admit to your loved ones
Speaker 4: that the data is clear on this, but now you
Speaker 4: can accept a compromise. It's okay for a quarterback with
Speaker 4: the high ceiling and one of the streakiest middles and floors.
Speaker 5: We've seen from a high draft pick to.
Speaker 4: Get that middle and floor elevated by the ecosystem around him.
Speaker 4: It's also true that he may have some tougher days.
Speaker 4: History says he will. Both can be true at the
Speaker 4: same time. The point is Minnesota is maximizing production on
Speaker 4: the high moments and limiting opportunities to make bad decisions
Speaker 4: or negative plays.
Speaker 5: That's how you talk to your loved one.
Speaker 2: I love that Jordan, I am Donald. Two things can
Speaker 2: be true at once. The duality of Sam Darnald is
Speaker 2: what I'm hearing.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm a little worried that when I get
Speaker 1: deep into the tendencies of coverage rules and how three
Speaker 1: people are going to go with Justin Jefferson to my
Speaker 1: loved ones, that I'm going to lose track of it
Speaker 1: and they won't know what the hell I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: This is how you actually get them, This is how
Speaker 4: you get them.
Speaker 1: It's a little deep. Yeah, it's a tough one. I
Speaker 1: feel like this feels a little targeted towards me.
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just giving the public some advice and therapy
Speaker 4: on the self help time of this holiday public is
Speaker 4: quickly approaching.
Speaker 1: Look that Donald Hyatt. They're going to enjoy week one.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: It is a great situation. You're not going to play that.
Speaker 3: I was so excited when I saw Sam Darnold.
Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch this team. As much as I like,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think the floor is going
Speaker 1: to be higher. That he's been a disappointing player and
Speaker 1: he's got a real chance to rewrite the type of
Speaker 1: player he is where that he can be a useful
Speaker 1: NFL starter. But they're going to get over their skis,
Speaker 1: you know, the Darnald Hive.
Speaker 5: I only the first part of your sentence.
Speaker 1: So all right, Colleen, let's go around the room one
Speaker 1: more time.
Speaker 3: So here we go.
Speaker 2: This one goes out to Jets fans, Hey, Jets fans,
Speaker 2: Your old friend Colleen here to offer you a shoulder
Speaker 2: to cry on, because that's what friends are for. Tough
Speaker 2: drawl for Week one, open the season on the road,
Speaker 2: last game of the week against a team that almost
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl, reached the NFC Championship three times
Speaker 2: in the last five years.
Speaker 1: It was rough.
Speaker 2: I gotta lie a team without one of their most
Speaker 2: dynamic weapons and a surprise pregame twist who used an
Speaker 2: undrafted free agent out of Georgia Tech to rush for
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven yards on your defense, a
Speaker 2: defense ran by Robert Sala and Jeff Olbrick, both former
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. But the strongest steal goes through the
Speaker 2: hottest fire. So at some point these crucibles should pay off.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he still has a cannon of an arm.
Speaker 2: You waited an entire year for Rogers to come back.
Speaker 2: You have to trust the patients, trust the process. And
Speaker 2: I know it's been repeated one hundred thousand times from
Speaker 2: the book of Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: Relax.
Speaker 2: I know I always respond so well when someone else
Speaker 2: tells me so Titan things up.
Speaker 3: You actually have.
Speaker 2: The Titans next week, who just like you lost. Maybe
Speaker 2: give Hassan Raddick a call. And remember it's not as
Speaker 2: bad as last year's.
Speaker 3: Week one loss.
Speaker 1: They won Week one last year, right, But this.
Speaker 3: Is like what the Aaron Rodgers of it all.
Speaker 1: You would rather Robert Sala said, you would rather lose
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers than win without it.
Speaker 4: Essentially, I did like on the broadcast they had a
Speaker 4: sort of a graphic celebrating after Rogers made it past
Speaker 4: four plays.
Speaker 5: It was like a little ticker on the that's.
Speaker 1: Rude, that's too much. I do put myself in the
Speaker 1: shoes though, of listening in this therapy session, and I
Speaker 1: think if going through the Crucible made you stronger, the
Speaker 1: Jets fans in their organization would be the strongest in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And yet where are the results.
Speaker 2: You know, they're still going through it, They're still building,
Speaker 2: they're still like fortifying.
Speaker 1: I think there was something there too, with the whole
Speaker 1: Roberts a Kyle Shanahan thing. I don't know that.
Speaker 5: I can't like he knew hominous respect.
Speaker 3: I guess you could have said he has aminous respect
Speaker 3: if the Jets had.
Speaker 1: Got in there and went, I could say the opposite.
Speaker 1: But he felt I felt like he really knew what
Speaker 1: to do to scramble this great Robert Salad defense, because
Speaker 1: that's the worst Jets performance since Robert Sala has been
Speaker 1: there in terms of the defense. He knew exactly how
Speaker 1: to attack that group and he used to go against
Speaker 1: Robert Sala every single day in practice.
Speaker 4: It is a classic Kyle Shanahan against the former coach
Speaker 4: move to play a deep reserve running back or you know,
Speaker 4: former un drafted or late round pick running back and
Speaker 4: just hammer your biggest weakness on defense, which is their
Speaker 4: defensive line with especially minus Reddick, and just hammer and
Speaker 4: hammer and hammer, and like circle the group on the
Speaker 4: little whiteboard in the meetings with a green circle and
Speaker 4: then that's who you run at the entire time. That
Speaker 4: is a classic Kyle shan on a hand versus former
Speaker 4: assistant move that front. I mean to counter a little
Speaker 4: I mean, I I think I think the Titans are
Speaker 4: also going to run the snot out of the ball
Speaker 4: at this front. So Joe douglas man take Colleen's therapeutic advice.
Speaker 5: Get on the post on Reddick, Where are you right?
Speaker 1: I don't know did those problems? I don't know if
Speaker 1: a sod Reddick can fix them all? But he would help,
Speaker 1: it would it would be nice. Yeah, you traded a
Speaker 1: third round pick for him. All right, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: you to something a little different than like a therapist office.
Speaker 1: Is more of a crisis management team. Oh wow, the
Speaker 1: NFL league office. Actually the hotline. It's Roger Goodell's office.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the bad news, boss, Roger, can I
Speaker 1: call you? Uh yeah? That was the fewest passing touchdowns
Speaker 1: since so six that's true in a week one back then.
Speaker 1: The top quarterbacks that week were Donovan McNabb, Kurt Warren,
Speaker 1: and Charlie Batch. No way fun quarterback Charlie Batch. The
Speaker 1: fewest net passing yards since two thousand in a week one,
Speaker 1: down almost thirty percent from the all time high, which
Speaker 1: was only five years ago. That was fun when we
Speaker 1: just thought we're gonna be putting up forty every week
Speaker 1: and it's passing, passing, passing. Only two three hundred yard passers.
Speaker 1: All that's bad. You know what's good what evolution. This
Speaker 1: is a game where whatever's in eventually goes out, whatever's
Speaker 1: out goes in. You know what made people fall in
Speaker 1: love with football in the first place. It's physicality. It's
Speaker 1: the running game. It's steamrolling over defenders. When the sport
Speaker 1: exploded in the seventies and eighties, that was the sport.
Speaker 1: And the running game is coming back. And if you
Speaker 1: look at the EPA per play, we are closer than
Speaker 1: we have been in so long to a run being
Speaker 1: as efficient as a pass on APPA if you include
Speaker 1: quarterback scrambles, they actually were in Week one, which is
Speaker 1: absolutely crazy roj. Which gets to my other point here.
Speaker 1: People love the quarterbacks running. That was the most quarterback
Speaker 1: rushing yards in a Week one ever, Like, what is
Speaker 1: more fun than a quarterback running? It's not hurting scoring.
Speaker 1: We fix things, you know, a little bit with the
Speaker 1: field position. As long as we're scoring, like things will change.
Speaker 1: The coolest kids in the league like Mike McDaniel are
Speaker 1: putting full backs on the field and multiple tight ends
Speaker 1: like it's all an evolution, and the evolution is what
Speaker 1: makes our sport better than all the others.
Speaker 4: It is it cycles around every five to seven years.
Speaker 4: You're seeing defensive personnel also get larger, but also more
Speaker 4: hybrid safeties who can play linebacker again like we did
Speaker 4: eight ten years ago. You're seeing multiple tight ends on
Speaker 4: the field for a lot of teams. You're seeing teams
Speaker 4: load up and play keep away, either with that heavy
Speaker 4: personnel and a great running back or a tandem of
Speaker 4: run who are splitting a carry share and using the
Speaker 4: quarterback as not just a running weapon but a battering ram.
Speaker 4: If I'm talking about Anthony Richardson that amazing play that
Speaker 4: he made over the weekend. You're using all of this
Speaker 4: to score versus these explosive pass plays, and the league
Speaker 4: is sort of rubber banding back from where defense is.
Speaker 1: Kind of like it. I kind of like that, like
Speaker 1: a big time passing day, like too, I had a
Speaker 1: big passing day, like feels really special. I like it
Speaker 1: because it feels different because I just at some point
Speaker 1: I just assumed it was going up forever. And I
Speaker 1: think it's cool that it's it's a little different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything old is new again, and that is the
Speaker 2: case for the NFL.
Speaker 4: I will tell you, yes, my hill, that I will
Speaker 4: die on the tiny table. Take that is a little
Speaker 4: too wild for tiny table.
Speaker 1: Day that let's not talk about our tiny table tape.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna walking away from that tiny table.
Speaker 4: I think that if passing stays down, scoring is scoring
Speaker 4: is up and the same, and that's good and that's
Speaker 4: what the league cares about obviously. But if passing stays down,
Speaker 4: I do think more rule changes could be on it.
Speaker 1: Sure, Oh yeah, that was part of the subtext. We
Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble here, but yes, we're always,
Speaker 1: you know, looking to just put our finger on the
Speaker 1: dial to help out those quarterbacks. It's fun. People like its.
Speaker 1: Let's see a little more long ball though, Like the
Speaker 1: average air yards per attempt has been like nose diving.
Speaker 1: All the passes are shorter. I don't love that.
Speaker 3: I just want more Anthony Richards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he's kind of exactly what we want running
Speaker 1: in bombs all right. Final one, Jordan.
Speaker 4: Well, this is more of a pep talk slash dose
Speaker 4: of reality here. Anther's fans, this is your life, and
Speaker 4: I hope it gets better. Oh Panthers fans. I truly
Speaker 4: want better for you. You deserve better than partner after partner,
Speaker 4: season after season, forecasting to you a lifetime of happiness
Speaker 4: and joy, only to leave you crying on your couch
Speaker 4: after some transgression. It's not your fault. So instead, I
Speaker 4: can't watch you get hurt anymore. So instead of opening
Speaker 4: yourself up to once again hope and cautious optimism. And
Speaker 4: I know, I know it's tempting to listen to the
Speaker 4: hope mongering and buy back in, it's time to steel
Speaker 4: yourselves to reality. This team will be rebuilding for multiple years.
Speaker 4: The roster, inherited and in part enabled by general manager
Speaker 4: Dan Morgan is a disaster to veteran and depleted a
Speaker 4: key positions on defense.
Speaker 5: Even Igiro Evro, who's regarded.
Speaker 4: As a top defensive coordinator, as having a hard time
Speaker 4: scheming around some of this. If you have to claim
Speaker 4: three dbs off of waivers on August twenty.
Speaker 5: Eighth, you are in danger.
Speaker 1: Girl.
Speaker 4: The offense, it's still obviously a work in progress at receiver,
Speaker 4: tight end, running back, and multiple offensive line positioned.
Speaker 5: Rebuilding takes time. It takes patience.
Speaker 4: Only a team with an above average to elite quarterback
Speaker 4: can sprint rebuild, and it's still not clear whether you
Speaker 4: do have a quarterback who can lead you into the
Speaker 4: next era. Getting a clean evaluation of Bryce Young is
Speaker 4: the most important task this season. When you know what
Speaker 4: you have at quarterback or don't have, you can define
Speaker 4: the rebuild window. Developing a very young, very relatively inexperienced
Speaker 4: head coach and Dave Canalis is the second most important thing.
Speaker 4: Overhauling the talent identification process within the pro and college
Speaker 4: scouting departments, which Dan Morgan quietly started to do this summer,
Speaker 4: is third. It will take time, and I don't know
Speaker 4: who needs to hear this, somebody important, probably, But without
Speaker 4: a quarterback, this type of ecosystemic construction will take multiple years.
Speaker 4: It will take patients, It will take a non reactionary
Speaker 4: understanding of where to keep developing and where to cut ties.
Speaker 4: Panthers fans, I want you to win. I want you
Speaker 4: to feel the rush of joy. But I can't watch
Speaker 4: you build up hope every spring and summer only to
Speaker 4: suffer after all that's happened. Perhaps there's freedom too, and
Speaker 4: simply going numb for a while.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good idea of this go
Speaker 1: to surrender this season, be like, be like our friend
Speaker 1: David Ely in the newsroom, and he's just he's not
Speaker 1: claiming the Panthers anymore. He's just like he'll come back someday.
Speaker 1: But I think he's disconnecting for a little while. And
Speaker 1: that's okay. When you have someone toxic, something toxic in
Speaker 1: your life, it's okay to just cut him out till
Speaker 1: they get better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta let a let loosen your grip
Speaker 2: on the wheel a bit and maybe just hit auto
Speaker 2: pilot for a little while.
Speaker 1: It's a long season. I do worry that you won't
Speaker 1: get like a complete evaluation of Brycing if every game
Speaker 1: was like this. But I think the offensive line, which
Speaker 1: wasn't terrible, I didn't think of this game actually like
Speaker 1: there was a couple of busts in terms of figuring.
Speaker 5: Out that would blitz sump into your quarterback.
Speaker 1: As you're yeah, it wasn't great, but uh, hopefully that
Speaker 1: part of it improves. They do need a left tackle though,
Speaker 1: you know they whift on on con. I just don't
Speaker 1: think that's ever gonna happen for them. That's why you
Speaker 1: gotta go numb. All right, let's not go numb to
Speaker 1: our TNF preview that's gonna be right after the break.
Speaker 1: We'll see you back on NFL Daily. And it is
Speaker 1: time for our TNF preview, presented by Prime Video Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football. I'm excited. This is a great TNF game,
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bills, and you should check out myself and
Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell of ESPN, one of the very best in
Speaker 1: the business. We're gonna go live on YouTube about fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes after the game, once we get our notes in order,
Speaker 1: and we'll do our TNF recap then. But let's talk
Speaker 1: about this game. Two teams that one in week one
Speaker 1: give us a little extra juice when it's too one
Speaker 1: of oh teams. These two teams have obviously played a
Speaker 1: lot over the last couple years because they also had
Speaker 1: a playoff game two years ago. And it sort of
Speaker 1: slipped my mind that the Bills have won four in
Speaker 1: a row, so Sean McDermott's kind of had Mike McDaniel's number,
Speaker 1: although most of them have been close. But last year
Speaker 1: in a big spot, the Dolphins were I think we're
Speaker 1: three to oh, and the Bills went down to Miami
Speaker 1: and put a hurt on them, and then they won
Speaker 1: the division against them in Week eighteen in Buffalo. So
Speaker 1: right now the division goes through Buffalo. What did we take,
Speaker 1: Colleen kind of out of week one that we can
Speaker 1: push forward into this match.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, both of these teams rallied from fourteen point
Speaker 2: deficits in the first half to win their respective games.
Speaker 2: Obviously for Buffalo. For both teams it's a short week,
Speaker 2: but for Buffalo it's a short week to prepare for
Speaker 2: a really fast team. I'm really excited to see Jordan
Speaker 2: Poyer in this game, who spent seven seasons in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: Now he signed with Miami.
Speaker 2: Play against Josh Allen after going against him so many
Speaker 2: years in practice, they finally get to actually have a
Speaker 2: real game matchup against each other. And Josh Allen coming
Speaker 2: off of that game where he had it was a
Speaker 2: crazy game for him, four touchdowns, he was hurtling, he
Speaker 2: was running all.
Speaker 3: Over the place.
Speaker 2: They were worried about his left arm for a while,
Speaker 2: but as Steve Mariucci said last night, left arm, left
Speaker 2: hand doesn't even matter. You don't even need it if
Speaker 2: you're wrong with your right one. But Josh Allen picked
Speaker 2: apart Miami secondary last year in both of those games,
Speaker 2: so I think that this is one that it's obviously
Speaker 2: going to be an awesome game. I loved watching Joe
Speaker 2: Brady run the ball in Buffalo.
Speaker 3: He just fed James Cook. It just opened things up.
Speaker 2: And then defensively the Bills, they're gonna need Cam Lewis
Speaker 2: again to step up because Taran Johnson they won't have
Speaker 2: him their nickel corner. He heard his forearm against the
Speaker 2: Cardinals in that first drive, and Lewis was pretty effective
Speaker 2: stopping the pass and the run in his place. And
Speaker 2: he takes a lot of pride in his versatility that
Speaker 2: he plays at that position. He can play corner, safety
Speaker 2: at nickel corner, and he can just wear a lot
Speaker 2: of different hats in the secondary. They can rotate him around,
Speaker 2: so he's kind of their Swiss Army knife, which they're
Speaker 2: lucky to have.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Toron Johnson was a guy I remember, the athletic
Speaker 1: Joe Basaglia does a great job with him. He had
Speaker 1: a list of like, who are the most indispensable players
Speaker 1: on their entire team. I think he had Toron Johnson
Speaker 1: number two. So it's just because he's so good and
Speaker 1: so that's something you worry about obviously going against the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who can put Tyreek or Jalen Waddle in the slot.
Speaker 1: I think the best defense maybe against the Dolphins is
Speaker 1: just being a loaded offense. It's you know, the reason
Speaker 1: I picked this Buffalo's team to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: was because of their offense. Now, the matchup was right
Speaker 1: in Week one, but they led the entire NFL by
Speaker 1: far in success. Right, they went up and down the
Speaker 1: field on the Cardinals despite falling from behind. They went
Speaker 1: for fourth down a couple times in situations where Sean
Speaker 1: McDermott I don't think would have in the past. It
Speaker 1: didn't work in the first half, it worked in the
Speaker 1: second half. So like I love you, I love that
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, stay aggressive. This is an offensive team now,
Speaker 1: and I just love the cohesion in the running game.
Speaker 1: It looks so good like they know when to use
Speaker 1: Josh Allen as a runner in the red zone without
Speaker 1: majoring in that, but Ray Davis has some burst as
Speaker 1: a backup, and James Cook looks awesome, and it looks
Speaker 1: like an offensive line Jordan that has been together now
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. They just gave Spencer Brown
Speaker 1: a new contract actually this week, and I love that
Speaker 1: running game going up against this Dolphins defense, who I
Speaker 1: thought also played well in Week one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Dolphins pressure looks a little bit better
Speaker 4: so far early. Obviously, they got some guys back from
Speaker 4: injuries last season. So you're gonna if you're the Bills
Speaker 4: and Josh Allen, you are gonna want to run the
Speaker 4: ball at this front. I think kind of ironically, they're
Speaker 4: gonna What I would do if I were them, would
Speaker 4: be to do similar to what the Cardinals initially tried
Speaker 4: to do against Josh Allen and the Bills, which is
Speaker 4: load up, run the ball, and play keep away and
Speaker 4: try to keep the ball out of a tug of
Speaker 4: Iloa's hands, out of Tyreek Hill's hands, and specifically to
Speaker 4: protect your own defense, which is super vulnerable the Bills
Speaker 4: defenses in the middle of the field, at inside linebacker
Speaker 4: and at safety, where they've been having quite a few
Speaker 4: issues with coverage. The Cardinals were really effectively able to
Speaker 4: use misdirection to change the contact points against some of
Speaker 4: these linebackers and safeties Tailor Rap struggled in coverage, and
Speaker 4: you're also again like to y'all's point, you're you're without
Speaker 4: Taron Johnson, and the Dolphins are the misdirection pre snap
Speaker 4: motion kings right seventy nine percent of offensive plays in
Speaker 4: Week one, they're also used.
Speaker 5: They're also running the ball.
Speaker 4: And a lot of to a tongue of Iloa's passing
Speaker 4: is coming out of pistol to keep the misdirection in
Speaker 4: the run game forty one point and forty percent in shotguns,
Speaker 4: So they're really keeping everything open in front to try
Speaker 4: to get a lot of that pre snap movement going.
Speaker 4: So again to your point, Greg, if the Bills can
Speaker 4: run the ball effectively, you actually can keep the ball
Speaker 4: out of to a tongue of Iloa's hands and out
Speaker 4: of that offensive offensive hand, offensive hands where the Dolphins
Speaker 4: are kind of kings at attacking the parts of the
Speaker 4: field where the Bills are the most vulnerable.
Speaker 1: Right now, right last week, who is it? Terrell Bernard
Speaker 1: who had a tough time against the Cardinals and Dorian
Speaker 1: Williams who's stepping in for Matt Allana, he struggled. I
Speaker 1: like the agro tua. Him and McDaniel kind of talked
Speaker 1: about this idea of skipping reads that in the past,
Speaker 1: like he had the like a high low concept where
Speaker 1: the receivers open underneath and that's actually his first read.
Speaker 1: But now he's kind of learned, like, hey that I
Speaker 1: seen what I see pre snap and knowing it's Tyreek
Speaker 1: out there, like, let's just skip past that first read.
Speaker 1: Let's get super aggressive. And they protected pretty well. I
Speaker 1: want to take back what I said on the Sunday
Speaker 1: night recap after rewatching this game a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think the offensive line actually played well. They feel good
Speaker 1: right now that they have at least three quality players.
Speaker 1: They have the right tackle who they gave money to,
Speaker 1: toront Armstat's healthy right now, and they got center Aaron
Speaker 1: brewerback who had a nice first game, and they're going
Speaker 1: to be going up. Yeah. I think the offenses have
Speaker 1: the advantage just on both sides of the ball. Although
Speaker 1: little von Miller pop Week one, von Miller was kind
Speaker 1: of backsso I think is making the leap. But von
Speaker 1: Miller had like five pressures. He didn't play the whole game.
Speaker 1: I think that's good. Maybe a little less is more
Speaker 1: for von Miller because.
Speaker 2: Oh he sucked Kyler Murray like three times and he
Speaker 2: had the force fumble.
Speaker 1: I love this uh. Two, when I look at the
Speaker 1: Bill's secondary, the matchup of Tyreek Hill and Christian Benford,
Speaker 1: who's who's kind of like a sneaky, like Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: like potential candidate. He had a really good Week one.
Speaker 1: A lot of it was against Marvin Harrison Junior. He
Speaker 1: shut them down. And then you mentioned finally the Dolphins defense.
Speaker 1: New coordinator Anthony Weaver didn't really blitz at all in
Speaker 1: Week one, which was interesting, and they got some good pressure.
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is back from this achilles tear and had
Speaker 1: a really good Week one. Jalen Ramsey did not, and
Speaker 1: so that's just something to watch. Maybe it was he
Speaker 1: wasn't practicing for a while. Yeah, so maybe that was
Speaker 1: an issue. Kalis Campbell what an amazing signing. Everything he
Speaker 1: went through that was terrible last week. But kind of
Speaker 1: lost in that is like Khalaias Campbell was on the
Speaker 1: field and was one of the best players. Again, he's ageless.
Speaker 5: He's just remarkable as a player as a human.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's one of the best.
Speaker 1: And like he was one of the reasons they won
Speaker 1: that game in early sack in that game. All right,
Speaker 1: let's pick it. We'll start with you, Jordan.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick the Dolphins just because I do think
Speaker 4: that if you can stop the run against the.
Speaker 5: Bill, a tall task, that's a big if.
Speaker 4: If you could stop the run against the Bills and
Speaker 4: get the ball back into the Dolphins offense's hands, the
Speaker 4: Bills are so so vulnerable in the parts of the
Speaker 4: field that Tua and that offense likes to attack and
Speaker 4: is very successful.
Speaker 2: At my god, this is such a tough one to call,
Speaker 2: but I think just because of the Dolphins speed on
Speaker 2: the short week, and then all of the issues that
Speaker 2: Buffalo has on their defense, like there's just too many
Speaker 2: ways that Mike McDaniel can attack them.
Speaker 3: So it's I'm gonna go Dolphins.
Speaker 1: Always tough for the road team and the Thursday night, yeah,
Speaker 1: second week especially, this is something where like whichever team
Speaker 1: can just rotate in players because like you're not really
Speaker 1: ready to play a full game and then you're really
Speaker 1: not ready to play another full game four days later.
Speaker 1: But I'm taking the Bills only one of these teams,
Speaker 1: says Josh Allen. That's my MVP pick, and I love
Speaker 1: I loved how he played in Week one. He had
Speaker 1: one play where he held it too long and fumbled.
Speaker 1: But for the most part, actually I thought he's making
Speaker 1: quicker decisions. I just think he gets these two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are so much better than they were two years ago
Speaker 1: in terms of decision making. He's making quicker decisions throwing
Speaker 1: the ball too. So just I'm taking the team that
Speaker 1: has Josh Allen and that has won four straight in
Speaker 1: this matchup. That's a big one. Like that was this
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Speaker 1: cannot wait.
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Speaker 5: I'm not like I believe him.
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