1 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where if we were a person, 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: that person must be God. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast studio and so excited to be 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: with two of my favorite humans, Colleen Wolf and Jordan 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: rod Reeg. And yes, that quote will make a little 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: more sense when we talk forty nine. 7 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: Ers in event still crazy out of contacts strong. 8 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 1: I like it. I like that you got your special 9 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: NFL kickoff shirt with your name on the back. 10 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 3: I know it's so fun. 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 2: Hold on, can I make this work big Colleen energy 12 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: record for you? 13 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: Sorry? 14 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: I got a Connie thing on the back. You probably can't. 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: I wasn't expecting a show and tell, so here it is. 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: What an ad for you? Two show yet? Yeah? Check 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: us out on YouTube. You can subscribe to help our 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:01,520 Speaker 1: numbers there. How are you? I'm excited for this show. 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: You know, we got a little bit of news, we 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: got our TNF preview, as we do. But I'm most 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,399 Speaker 1: excited about kind of sitting down on the couch for 22 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: a therapy session to try to try to help out 23 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: some people because that oh and one just it feels 24 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: rough after after week one. 25 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I'm very accustomed to being on the 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,839 Speaker 4: other side of this, you know, receiving the advice, receiving 27 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 4: the therapy. 28 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 5: I endorse this for everybody. 29 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: I love it. 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:27,919 Speaker 1: You better love it was your idea. 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: Yes, so thank you so much. I cannot wait for this. 32 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 2: I feel like I've already been talking so many people 33 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: just like into a better headspace after one week with 34 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 2: their teams. 35 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: So this felt just like a natural place to go. 36 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: And also I have therapy right after this. 37 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: This. 38 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: This is a fell season where we're just we're morphing 39 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: two tasks into one super task just to save time. 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. 41 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I could if I could have one friend that could 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: be my therapist, I think it would be Connie. But 43 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: before how do we get there? Let's do some news. 44 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: Let's start with the Pittsburgh Steelers, who got a big 45 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: road win in Atlanta. Nice start of the season, the 46 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: only team in the AFC North that got a w 47 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: after all that doom and gloom in the preseason, and 48 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: Justin Fields I thought played pretty well in that game. 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin was asked about his quarterback situation on Tuesday, 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: and it sounds like it's going in a certain direction. 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 6: But as I sit here today, we're preparing is if 52 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 6: Justin is going to be our quarterback. I think that's 53 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 6: the appropriate way to do it. Speculation is a waste 54 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 6: of time. Russell's hurd, he's not available to us, and so, 55 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 6: as you guys know, as a general practice, man, I 56 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 6: focus my energy on those that are available in their readiness. 57 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: I love Mike Tomlin so much, he's the best. Speculation 58 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: as a waste of time, I know, Like that all 59 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: makes sense. It's like, oh, maybe he would just say 60 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: that for anyone, and I don't think so. I think 61 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: there's actually a shift in the tone. The reporters were 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: trying to get him to say that Russell Wilson, if 63 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: he was healthy, would he be the starter, and Mike 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: Tomlin would not entertain that at all. I think this 65 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: is Justin Fields's job as long as he keeps playing well. 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 4: You know what I do like about this, other than 67 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 4: him just shutting down the speculation and sort of the 68 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: news cycle that would surround any hedging about the Russell 69 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 4: Wilson situation, is that Justin Field won't be in limbo 70 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 4: like all the way up until ninety minutes before kickoff 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: on this He'll have a full game week to prepare. 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 4: You know he will be in that mode in the 73 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 4: starter's seat basically, and it's not like you know, everyone says, oh, 74 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 4: he prepares if we're the starter. There is a difference 75 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: in meeting structure, in how you organize your week and 76 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: how you study, in everything, because you will be in 77 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 4: that seat and you're not again doing this ninety minutes 78 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 4: before kick. 79 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 2: I just love Mike Tomlin, the whole aura about him. 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 2: He doesn't like hypotheticals, he doesn't like to speculate. Now 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: normally his protocol is typically for players to be available 82 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 2: to practice on Fridays if they're going to play on Sundays. 83 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 2: But the more veteran you are, the less it matters 84 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: that you're available on Friday. But he said, I treat 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 2: everybody fair. I don't treat everyone the same. I just 86 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: feel like he has these quotes all of the time. 87 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: I would love to just sit down. I would love 88 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: to have a beer with Mike Tomlin. That's kind of 89 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 2: my dream beer guest in my life. 90 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: But also I feel like if there was an NFL 91 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: coach you'd be most likely to get a beer with. 92 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: He's pretty close to the top of the list. I 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: think you can make this happen. Combine week you see him, 94 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I'm there, ye. 95 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: Mean, Combine, My wheels are hilling right now, and I'm 96 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 4: gonna have to manifest this. 97 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: I think that's very exciting to think about. But hey, 98 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 3: justin Field's like the fact. 99 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: That he didn't have any turnovers in that game, I 100 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 2: think was such a huge plus because with that defense 101 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: that they have, if they can just have someone at 102 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 2: the quarterback position that doesn't make mistakes or put them 103 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: in a bad situation, they're kind of an interesting team 104 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 2: now in that division. 105 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: Justin Field's played well in that game. I don't know 106 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: if the matchup, you know, was just that favorable against 107 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 1: the Falcons. We'll have to wait and find out. But 108 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: I went to watch that and there was so much 109 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: negativity about you know, they didn't score a touchdown. That's 110 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: not ideal, and I didn't expect a great performance. And 111 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: the first three plays were very justin Fields. He fumbled 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the snap on the first one, that was an issue 113 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: in training camp. Maybe it's the center, maybe it's him. 114 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: Then a really bad pass that was open. Short passes, 115 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: you know, not always his thing. But then he runs 116 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: for a first down on the third play and as 117 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: the game went along, like there were a lot of 118 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: key runs, but there was a great thirty six yard 119 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: throw that was overturned by a penalty. There was another 120 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: nice bomb down the field to Pickens later in the game. 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: There was a nice like third and long. He made 122 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: a lot of winning plays. I went and like looked 123 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: at the PFF grades afterwards. He was a top ten 124 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: quarterback according to them last week, Like there was more 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: than enough. I think they were. I've been pleasantly surprised. 126 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: And he's not working with a full deck of like 127 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: great wide receivers, and I think Mike Tomas probably pretty 128 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: excited about what's going on. 129 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 2: But also consider this, They're going to Denver, like they're 130 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 2: playing the Broncos and Russell Wilson is just going to 131 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 2: be on the bench. 132 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why did I not think about that? That? 133 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, in full pads. 134 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: There is a lot of like anti fields agenda on 135 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: the internet. Too. That was just like he must be terrible, 136 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: but no, he's fine. Like the weirdest fan in sports 137 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: right now is the Steelers fan who is like diehard 138 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. We got to go with Russell Wilson, Like 139 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: what allegiance. Do you have to him? 140 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 4: You know what, I think, I'm so excited to see 141 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: the little quarterback throw heat charts at the end of 142 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 4: this next game of Broncos Steelers, because bonis one of 143 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 4: them is going to be just everything is in the same, 144 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 4: and then the other one is justin Fields. Art Smith 145 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: is doing what justin Fields likes to do, less so 146 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 4: of what we thought he was going to do. He's 147 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,559 Speaker 4: acquiescing and compromising a little bit, collaborating with the skill 148 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 4: set that his quarterback seems to prefer. Data tells us 149 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: this over time, and it kind of looked like, I mean, 150 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 4: he was slinging it wide a little bit. 151 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: Oh so that all the throws were to the. 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: Out were talking about Art Smith and how everything was 153 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 4: going to be right in the middle of the field. 154 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: But it seems like our guy Art you know, name change, 155 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: facial hair change, he's going with Art. 156 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. Well we decided, we've decided, okay. 157 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look he's had more time with field ultimately 158 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: through training camp and now the preseason game. 159 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 4: It was enough positive plays. I think you said this 160 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 4: on on social media. Greg, there was enough positive plays 161 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 4: to make this regardless of the Wilson of it all 162 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 4: to make this an easier decision. Justin Field had enough 163 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 4: positive plays in that game. 164 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: Plus he tried to return I think quickly Russell Wilson 165 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: from the calf injury and maybe re injured it because 166 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: he was worried about losing that starting job. Always look 167 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: to the contract they only gave Russell Wilson like a 168 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: million dollars. Like he's getting paid about the same amount 169 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: of money as Tyler Huntley out there. Let's move on 170 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: to our next story. Mike Shanahan is the father of 171 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, uh huh. And they both like to play 172 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: games I believe with injuries and the media. And this 173 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: happened with running backs, and it certainly happened in Mike's 174 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,239 Speaker 1: day and it happened in Kyle's day. On Monday Night football, 175 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: so many fantasy football owners were upset that Christian McCaffrey 176 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: was ruled in active and a little bit of a 177 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: controversy after the game when Jordan Mason, who stepped in, 178 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: told the media he found out, at least according to him, 179 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: that he was starting. On Friday, Kyle Shanahan was asked 180 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: about a report from ESPN that said already there's a 181 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: real chance McCaffrey could miss week two. 182 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 7: I'm saying that's amazing. That person must be God, because 183 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 7: out he wasn't playing today, and I have no idea 184 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 7: how he's going to feel tomorrow or the next day. 185 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 7: I thought he was playing this whole week until today, 186 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 7: So I don't know who knows that he's playing not 187 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 7: playing next week. 188 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: I want to believe that he's telling the truth, but 189 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: coaches just do just straight up live. So what do 190 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: you think is he? 191 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I just think it would be amazing if 192 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: you had an inside track to God, as like unnamed 193 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,479 Speaker 2: source would be, that would be pretty. 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: Hauchh Schefter and Rapidport are working on it. It's been 195 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: an angle that they've been like trying to make happen. 196 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't of course, there's a 197 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: real chance, by the way, that Christian McCaffrey isn't playing 198 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: week two. He didn't play week one, and he's been 199 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: trying to recover from this injury for weeks. It's called 200 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Achilles tend the night is Kyle Shannon did speak on 201 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: Tuesday and said if it was a playoff game, he 202 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: would have played on Monday night. But it is not 203 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: a playoff game. These games only matter so much for 204 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers. 205 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I mean they were so productive on the ground. 206 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: Even without you have space, you have like wiggle room, 207 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 4: You have leeway to let Christian McCaffrey rest a little bit. 208 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 4: As everyone knows, I have a very ominous respect for 209 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan, and especially the darkness that seems to seep 210 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 4: through his general being. 211 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: It tell me more about that. 212 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,560 Speaker 4: Understand, including his knowledge of, you know, forces beyond our control, 213 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 4: such as I don't know if anyone will be a lot, 214 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 4: any of us will be alive on Sunday. That famous 215 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 4: quote Ohle years ago now speaks to me. 216 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: That's like, hey, that's a person that has experienced some 217 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: tragedy in his life. 218 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 4: Right now, he's calling out you know, he's calling out 219 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 4: God as a source. I mean this, this guy is 220 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 4: walking very very close to something paranormal right now. 221 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: What did he say, your ominous darkness? 222 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 4: That I have an ominous respect, ominous respect. 223 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: I love that. 224 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: It's the highest compliment I can pay a bit. 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: Let's dive into that on the couch a little bit later. 226 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: It much more positive, was Matt Eberflus when talking about 227 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams and his debut, not that we didn't mention 228 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: it on the Sunday week yet, but it was kind 229 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: of a big deal that the number one overall pick 230 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: didn't get to one hundred yards passing on twenty nine attempts, 231 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: they did not score. I mean, that's just crazy. Matt 232 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Iberflus though, saw a lot of good out of Caleb 233 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: in his first game. 234 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 8: Yeah, I think he would say that too, just you know, 235 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 8: his footwork a little bit off at times, but again 236 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 8: he threw a lot of good, good practices too. So 237 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,719 Speaker 8: met with him this morning and that was really about it. 238 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 8: I thought his vision was good. Yeah, I thought he 239 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 8: was I thought he was good. I thought he saw 240 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 8: it well. I thought he you know, saw the coverage contours, 241 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 8: he saw zero, you know them adjusted on the fly, 242 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 8: you know, in terms of post snap, I thought he 243 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 8: did a nice job. 244 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: What do you think in terms of how he like? 245 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. Mattie Befos, of course, is going to 246 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: support his guy one thousand percent. I also am not 247 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: encouraged after hard Knock that that one on one meeting 248 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: he had with Caleb Williams was that insightful. 249 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: I mean, I was kind of refreshed by his comments 250 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: about I mean, he very openly and clearly we were 251 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 4: talking about therapy. Man set a boundary in terms of 252 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 4: the leeway and the patients that he expects the world 253 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 4: in the outside world, especially to have with a rookie 254 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 4: quarterback who, yes, is one of the best prospects we've 255 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: we've ever seen come into the league, but is going 256 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 4: to have days like this where even a four man 257 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: rush is kind of get getting him off his spot 258 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 4: a little bit, struggling to connect a little bit, maybe 259 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 4: second guessing what he's seeing. I would like to see 260 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: him just kind of cut loose. 261 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 5: And play free. 262 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 4: I think that as himself and Chaine Waldron feel each 263 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 4: other out in live action a little bit more against 264 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 4: live defenses, not preseason regulated, looks going to start to 265 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 4: see them understand each other and how Caleb likes to 266 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 4: play and really accentuate that a little bit more, or 267 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 4: at least you hope that that's what will happen with 268 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator. But yeah, I actually was really refreshed 269 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 4: by what Mattiberflu said because he basically it wasn't a 270 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,959 Speaker 4: message to the media It was a message to Caleb 271 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 4: and to the rest of the world, like we're giving 272 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 4: this guy patience because we believe in him, and he's 273 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 4: going to be learning in public and learning out loud 274 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 4: for the next year. And that's what a rookie season 275 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 4: for any quarterback is. 276 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Flus also talked about that third and five, 277 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: the stop route that he thought was excellent, and that 278 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: the rhythm and the timing was there on some of 279 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: the plays. But I don't think anyone expected Caleb to 280 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 2: come out and just absolutely light everything on fire, Like sure, 281 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: maybe you wanted something a little bit better than what 282 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: we saw, but there was some good with the bad, 283 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: and then it wasn't all Caleb's fault. Keenan Allen had 284 00:12:50,280 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 2: the huge drop on the touchdown catch. I mean there 285 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 2: were a few other passes that could have been also 286 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: considered drops potentially too. 287 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 3: So flus is just doing what Fluce needs to do. 288 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Hey, that's us Fluspy and Fluse. I mean, you get 289 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: a win without any offensive touchdowns that that is incredible. 290 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: I think the interior offensive line is their number one concern, 291 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: maybe of the entire team. They have a former Ram Coleman, 292 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Shelton at center who did not have a good day. 293 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: They almost openly are talking about, I think wanting to 294 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: bench a free agent pick up Nate Davis, but the 295 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: guy who would replace him isn't quite healthy enough to 296 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: do so that's Ryan Bates. But everyone who said this 297 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: is the best situation ever for a rookie quarterback to enter, 298 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you got you got some weapons. But 299 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: now with Doonza's hurt and he's weak to week, he's 300 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: almost certainly out this week, and you're getting a ton 301 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: of pressure up the middle, and you're a shorter quarterback 302 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: compared to most. That's that's a lot to deal with. 303 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: Then again, they won't play against Jeffrey Simmons and Devandre 304 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: Sweat every week who kind of dominated. 305 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, but the interior even had issues when they sent 306 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 4: extra They didn't need to send extra pressure all the time, 307 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: but they even sent another former Los Angeles Ernest Jones 308 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 4: on a blitz and bold Coleman Shelton backwards. 309 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 5: That was the clip that sort of went viral during 310 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 5: the game. 311 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 4: But to your point, like the interior pressure, no, they're 312 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: not going to face fronts like this every week, but 313 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: you can manufacture that as well. So shoring that up 314 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: is a huge concern to me. And then also again 315 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 4: like moving his pocket, getting him sort of working in 316 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 4: space a little bit more, but then also layering things. 317 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 4: You did hear a couple of times and that you 318 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 4: heard this in Seattle all the time last year. Oh 319 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: I think one of those receivers was running right in 320 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: front of the other receiver and they were basically running 321 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: the same route, just different lengths. And you want to 322 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 4: make sure that if you have a quarterback who is 323 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: like working on the move or out of structure, that 324 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 4: those layers are all over the field, not just sort 325 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 4: of stacked as if they're like nesting dolls. 326 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: So Coleman Shelton, Ernest Jones, that's x X. 327 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 5: I don't know where that even came from. 328 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: So I like a little nesting dolls reference in any show. Uh, 329 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: but yeah, you still manace this, you know, fit in 330 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: some rams talking here you kill me. 331 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 4: You got a bad view with That's sorry, Ernest Jones, Yes, guy, 332 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 4: I'm sorry. 333 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the dynamic kickoff. How 334 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: are we feeling? I just feel like we didn't this 335 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: was such a big story all off season, all pre season. 336 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Can we revisit just where we're at with the dynamic kickoff. 337 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: About a third of the kicks were return which doesn't 338 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: sound like a lot. Actually it's not even about a third. 339 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: It was exactly a third. But last year it was 340 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: twenty two percent, So that's that's up like eleven percent. 341 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: The average return went to about the twenty nine So 342 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: but that doesn't include the kickoff touchdown, which so ultimately 343 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: you were probably better off on average just kicking it 344 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: into the end zone and starting at the thirty. Like, 345 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: is it doing enough for you? I mean, it's making 346 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: you feel something inside, Colleen. 347 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: The DJ Dallas dynamic touchdown is really the only thing 348 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: that made me feel some thing with the new rule. 349 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: There was another long return in that game, actually, I 350 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: believe by the bills yards my crazy Yes, so there 351 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: was a couple. Yeah, it was a little more. It's 352 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: like in the right direction. Improved field position though means 353 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: more scoring. So like, even if it is all these touchbacks, 354 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: the fact that the average starting field position is going 355 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: up about five yards, that's kind of a win just 356 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: on its own because the scoreboard will be higher. Yeah, Rien, 357 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: are you. 358 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 3: Impressed by it? 359 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: Not yet? 360 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 4: Just because and I agree and the scoring increasing. That's 361 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 4: obviously going to be a reaction to this, just by 362 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 4: nature of moving the ball up. 363 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: But the ball is moving up. 364 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: And the line of scrimmage is moving up based on 365 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: a function of the rule itself, not the average of 366 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: the plays that are being made from said rule. Both 367 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 4: these are the average starting field position for all all 368 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 4: drives after receiving a dynamic kickoff was the receiving team's 369 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 4: own twenty nine point four yard line. 370 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 5: So it's it's like, it's a that's what the rule is. 371 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 4: That's a function of I wouldn't be surprised if at 372 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 4: the end of the year, and Roger Goodell actually mentioned 373 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 4: this last week in his interview before the Eagles Packers game, 374 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: that they are open to changing this rule, to adjusting it. Yeah, 375 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 4: oh yeah, talking about it in terms of moving that 376 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 4: field position up to try to prohit, like prevent teams 377 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 4: from just kicking the touch back. 378 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,239 Speaker 5: Okay, i'd i'd be into that. 379 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Thirty five is aggressive, but it would be inter I 380 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: think it's a it's a small win so far, nothing 381 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 1: too crazy. The thing that annoys me is the coaches 382 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: like Sean McVay who were just afraid to compete. He's like, 383 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to. It's I don't want to deal 384 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: with the uncertainty, and so he's kicking with a touchbuck. Hey, 385 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: how about you try to just be great at everything 386 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: that is now involved in your football game instead of 387 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: just giving up. 388 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 4: I'm not going to be trapped into talking about. 389 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: Okay, a couple of small just news items we had mentioned. 390 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: Derek Brown was likely out for the season. He's the 391 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: great defensive tackle for the Panthers. That was confirmed as 392 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: he was sent the season ending I are on Tuesday. 393 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 1: And then Juju Brens, who is a cult starting cornerback 394 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 1: a thin position for them, also going to injured reserve. 395 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: And then finally I mentioned on Monday Night with Shook 396 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson received another civil lawsuit. The NFL now 397 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: says it's reviewing the lawsuit that accuses Deshaun Watson of 398 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: sexual assault and battery in October of twenty twenty, back 399 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: when he was with the Texans. Quote, and this is 400 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: from the league spokesperson Brian McCarthy. We are reviewing the 401 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: complaint and we will look into the matter under the 402 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Personal Conduct Policy. We are not looking at the commissioners 403 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: exempless as there's been no formal charges in the league's 404 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: review has just begun. The Browns say, quote, we will 405 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: respect the due process our legal system affords regarding the 406 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: recently filed civil suit and follow the NFL's guidelines on 407 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 1: this matter. So just between those two statements, it sounds 408 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: like for now the Browns and the NFL aren't doing anything, 409 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: but there is an investigation that the NFL will undergo. 410 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a quick break and we are 411 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: going to be back and we're going to just talk 412 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: about things we just can't get out of our mind. 413 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: We need to. I don't know, I just feel a 414 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: little more comfortable with We are back on NFL daily, 415 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 1: and we are so lucky every week to have Colleen 416 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: Will with us. I mean, what a big get for 417 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: the show. It was tough. It wasn't easy to get her. 418 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: So I'm so busy these days. If we've got if 419 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: we have like a loose plan of maybe what we're 420 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: gonna do on Tuesday, and we get a text from 421 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Colleen who has an executive producer credit now as part 422 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: of this show. 423 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,479 Speaker 3: Oh that's great. Do I get a little bump too? 424 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 2: Now? 425 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: Just the credit that's how we pay you. And she 426 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: come and she says, I got a new idea. We're 427 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: going to flip the old idea. Let's go with the 428 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: new idea. We're going to replace it. Yeah, then we're 429 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: going to do it. And that I now bring. 430 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: Up disrespect to the other idea, which I think is 431 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: all good. 432 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 5: Oh it was Greg's idea. 433 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 3: No, it was it was that was the only problem. 434 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: I feel like we're on the couch now. We need 435 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 1: to work this out. But no, this is good. I 436 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: think after week one there's a lot of figures in 437 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: the NFL that that could use some therapy. We all 438 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: love therapy. Yeah, and uh, Colleen, I want you to start. 439 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: That's sort of a long winded way of getting you 440 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: to start so that I can feel what this segment 441 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: really is all about. 442 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: Okay, that's great. 443 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 2: Well, I just like to offer people emotional support. I 444 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 2: feel like that's that's what good friends do. And you know, 445 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: around these parts, especially this time of year, I find 446 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 2: myself offering maybe a little bit more emotional support. 447 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 3: Than I'm that I'm used to, So might as well 448 00:20:58,080 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 3: just keep it going. 449 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 2: And I'm going to send this one out to Jaguars fans, guys, 450 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: you know, it's not how you start, it's how you finish, 451 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 2: which is a shame because what a start to that game. 452 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Speaker 3: So well. 453 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: Gabe Davis and Brian Thomas Junior both had like really 454 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 2: bright moments. 455 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 3: The defense was really holding up in the first half. 456 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: The vibes they were good until things got a little uncomfortable. 457 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 3: But listen, I understand how quickly things can change. 458 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: I watched the Eagles start ten and one last year 459 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 2: and finish one and five. I also watched the Jags 460 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: finish one in five last year. We all got hurt. 461 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: We're all trying to love again. Dravesy Tin's goal line 462 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: fumble not ideal. In fact, Nightmare of Fuel being up 463 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: twenty four to seven would have made things a lot 464 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: more comfortable. But being a football fan, it's not about comfort. 465 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: It's about pain and suffering and holding on to a 466 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 2: glie of hope. This roster is replete with talent. Ryan 467 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: Nielsen is a really good defensive coordinator. The defense sacked 468 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 2: to a three times, held the Dolphins under one hundred 469 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: rushing yards, limited Miami to twenty points an offense that 470 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 2: scored nearly thirty points per game last season. Just two 471 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: touchdowns the entire game, So everybody get it together. It's 472 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 2: just one game. Your season is not defined by Week one. 473 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 2: It's your home opener this week, and you play the 474 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: Browns who looked way more of a mess than you. 475 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: That should make them feel a lot better. And I 476 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: think that was excellent. Browns. They're a case. I don't 477 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: think we would even want to try to tackle in this. 478 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 5: Therapy rule number one, it can always get worse. 479 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 1: I love the comparison between the Eagles and the Jaguars 480 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: because I think the way their seasons ended last year, 481 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: their fans and those teams could have used a little counseling. 482 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: I gotta say that Eagles fan that and you tell me, 483 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: like that win in Week one to meet felt bigger 484 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: because of the way last season ended that you want 485 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: to feel like this is different. So I do kind 486 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: of get why it's triggering for Jaguars fans to have 487 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: a seventeenth to three lead. It was like last season 488 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 1: all over again in one game, and to start that 489 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 1: way is tough. 490 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was so rough. 491 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 2: And they better win this week because they're going on 492 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 2: the road for back to backs against the Bills on 493 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 2: Monday Night Football and then the Texans. So if they 494 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 2: lose to the Browns who looked the way that they 495 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: did last week, and then they have to go to 496 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 2: Buffalo and then they have to go to Houston, I 497 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 2: hate that for that. 498 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: Okay, we're out of the office now because I feel 499 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: like this is putting some uncomfortable future expectations. Let's focus 500 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 1: on what's right in front of us. 501 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 3: You have to be present. 502 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: You kind of like this Jaguars team, don't you. Yeah? 503 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I do? I do. 504 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I like the talent, I like the potential. 505 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 4: I've said a couple times this offseason. I'd like to 506 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 4: see with this coaching staff everyone take a step forward. 507 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 4: Closing a game such as this would be a nice 508 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 4: start to that. But saw some really nice things from 509 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, some of the windows he was fitting the 510 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 4: ball into. I do understand, though, the trauma projection element 511 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 4: of this Colleene, I mean. 512 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 5: I really understand. 513 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 4: You know, you had some demons to get out yourself 514 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 4: and really place onto the shoulders of Jags facts and 515 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 4: in that way you are free. 516 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 3: Exactly like that's how you process it. You send it 517 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 3: off onto someone else. 518 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: And that was a good shout to Brian Nielsen and 519 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: the coordinator because for most of that game they're playing 520 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,439 Speaker 1: a lot of man coverage against the Dolphins. Was a 521 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: little surprising. And if you take out those two big plays, 522 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: which I know is a big if, but if you 523 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: took out the two other plays, like, they look pretty 524 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: good in that game. The running game was good. They 525 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: looked like a different team to me. It was a 526 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: couple of drops really hurt of me. All Right, let's 527 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: go to my counseling session. Okay, and I'm so glad 528 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow is joining me here. Oh, and I'm 529 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: glad he came in. Joe, I understand your concern about 530 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: your one and eight record in weeks one and two 531 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: in your career. That's outrageous, and it's true. The numbers 532 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: aren't pretty out of forty five quarterbacks over the last 533 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: few years, in those weeks one and two, you are 534 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: thirty ninth out of forty five, Joe. So I want 535 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: to bring up something sensitive, but you pay me a 536 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: lot of money like I'm worth it, so I'm going 537 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: to give it to you straight. You looked a little 538 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: afraid to play aggressive, Joe, and I think that's natural. 539 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: You're coming off a risk surgery. The Pats really good defense, 540 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: show you a lot of disguised looks. I think you 541 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: can learn from this because this is not the Joe 542 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 1: we know Dunkin and Duncan throwing the ball short on 543 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: third down when there's guys in single coverage on the outside. 544 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: The Joe we know doesn't check down. The Joe we 545 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: know was there at training camp. We saw it. There 546 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: was proof we saw in the preseason that he was 547 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: ripping it. It's not about your wrist, Joe. You just 548 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: have to get used to it. And I have a 549 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 1: theory for you, Joe, It's all about Joe cool. You've 550 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: been in such big games before, Super Bowl, National Championship, 551 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just like tough to feel like weeks 552 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,280 Speaker 1: one and two this makes me it's a little dead 553 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 1: inside of these games like really matter. And that's why 554 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you, Joe, like this is the 555 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: perfect week for you. You're going to Arrowhead. That is 556 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: the opponent you actually want in week two, because weeks 557 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: one and two do matter. You batter Joe Burrow a 558 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 1: six point underdog. They used to call this place Joe Burrowhead. 559 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: Don't listen to uh anyone out there. Weeks one and 560 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: two do matter, and I think this is the week 561 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: you make all those stats go away. 562 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 4: He does always thrive when there's something, you know, maybe 563 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 4: he just needs a little push. Yeah, just a little 564 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: push like like you're saying, and he really but he 565 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 4: does thrive. 566 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 5: He's got that, you know. The CJ. Strouds have that, 567 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 5: the Matthew Staffords. 568 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 4: Have that that little that little killer mentality that is 569 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: like a switch that flips on where you're very calm 570 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: and cool on the outside, but and maybe icy. 571 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 5: You know hair ha hair reference. 572 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 4: But but you're you're ready to just rumble on the inside. 573 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,199 Speaker 4: And I think that maybe this environment, this challenge, the 574 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 4: stakes of this and also watching his own tape from 575 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 4: this last week, and I don't know who that man is. 576 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 5: Situation. 577 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's gotta be a little bit of 578 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 4: a motivating factor. Maybe we were on chip alert m 579 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 4: for Joe Burrow, but I mean, you gotta do some 580 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 4: creation of it himself. 581 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 2: I think it really hit when you talked about Joe 582 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: Burrow being used to these huge big game scenarios with 583 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 2: all of like the pressure and all of the eyes 584 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 2: just like uh, feeling something for a week one game, 585 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: even though yes, it. 586 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 3: Is a big deal, but it's like, yeah, I don't know. 587 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: Sometimes during the season it's like you're in Week five. 588 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 2: Like sometimes just in general, it's tough to feel things 589 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 2: inside if it's not like a massive moment. 590 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: I identify with that. It's why we have to work 591 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,959 Speaker 1: on Colleen a lot before these Tuesdays. So she's been 592 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: in such a big spot. It's like, all right, let's 593 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: let's bring it, let's wake up. But what a big 594 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 1: spot this week. 595 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 5: So I'm you're arrowhead in this situation. You're not Joe. 596 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 4: You're I'm talking to Joe, I say, with Colleen, With Colleen, 597 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 4: you are you are the chiefs in this situation. 598 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: Now, I think I'm more the You're the biggest favorite 599 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: in the league. A on a one pm game against 600 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's NFL Daily, Like, we need to get 601 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,040 Speaker 1: Colleen to just feel a little more juicues. I am. 602 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 2: This is my highlight of the week, Greg, I love 603 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: all my shows equally. 604 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 4: We got her in the headset today, Yeah that is 605 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 4: and it looks great. 606 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: All right, Jordan, you're up. 607 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: Okay, you guys, this time of year, this falls under 608 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 4: the category of desperately seeking self help. Okay, because this 609 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: time of year many people go to therapy to approach 610 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 4: the difficult to navigate dinner table discussions between opinionated factions. 611 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 5: At the holidays. 612 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 4: Right, this is about that time you start seeking answers 613 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: and tools. So I'm here to tell you how to 614 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: talk to your loved ones about Sam Donald. 615 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, my points are three. Three, My points are okay. 616 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 4: First step in how to talk to your loved ones 617 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: about Sam Donald. Point to the tape. Yes, this is 618 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: a plug for NFL Pro because what a great website. 619 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 4: Sam Donald opened Sunday's game by halftime thirteen for fourteen 620 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 4: for one hundred and fifty one yards and a touchdown. 621 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 4: He looked confident the entire game. Made a couple of 622 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 4: iffy decisions, but for the most part, made good decisions, 623 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 4: a couple of tight window throws, and the offense felt 624 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 4: really cohesive. 625 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 5: Step two. 626 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: That he has more help in his head coach Kevin O'Connell, 627 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: his receivers Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, and Jalen Naylor, and 628 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 4: his run game with Aaron Jones. Jones six point seven 629 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 4: yards per Carrie ninety four yards four point ninety four 630 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 4: yards per rush after contact, which is the highest for 631 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: a Vikings running back since Week ten and twenty twenty two. 632 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 4: Had to by colleague Allic Lewis for digging that stat up. 633 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 4: But they're actually not playing cushion the quarterback as much 634 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 4: as you would think, so less play action than I 635 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 4: thought they would run. They're only nineteen point two percent 636 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 4: play action used, and they've got him a shotgun like 637 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: seventy percent of the time where he went thirteen for 638 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 4: seventeen for one hundred and fifty six yards and two touchdowns. 639 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 4: Kevin O'Connell is giving him multiple correct answers on a play. 640 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: There's been one going around where it's at twenty two 641 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 4: yard pass to Josh Oliver the tight end. And really 642 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 4: what's so special about the coordination of the offense and 643 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 4: the design of the play from Kevin O'Connell is that 644 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,239 Speaker 4: if the Giants coverage rules on that play dictated that 645 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: three players flowed toward Justin Jefferson, leaving Josh Oliver open 646 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 4: in the seam or under less coverage than he would 647 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 4: have been on that vertical in the seam, if one 648 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 4: player would have peeled away from Justin Jefferson, So breaking 649 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 4: the tendency rules that Kevin O'Connell and Sam Donald are studying, 650 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: then that's when you hit Justin Jefferson and you're able 651 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 4: to lead him, probably for a touchdown. So even if 652 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: the defense does everything right, there's an answer. If the 653 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 4: defense does one thing quote unquote wrong, there's also an answer. 654 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: So providing Sam Donald multiple answers on one play and 655 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 4: number three. But Sam Donald has been so streaky while 656 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 4: with the Jets and Panthers, at some point he'll be 657 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 4: a pumpkin again. You can admit to your loved ones 658 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 4: that the data is clear on this, but now you 659 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 4: can accept a compromise. It's okay for a quarterback with 660 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 4: the high ceiling and one of the streakiest middles and floors. 661 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 5: We've seen from a high draft pick to. 662 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: Get that middle and floor elevated by the ecosystem around him. 663 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 4: It's also true that he may have some tougher days. 664 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 4: History says he will. Both can be true at the 665 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 4: same time. The point is Minnesota is maximizing production on 666 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 4: the high moments and limiting opportunities to make bad decisions 667 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: or negative plays. 668 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: That's how you talk to your loved one. 669 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 2: I love that Jordan, I am Donald. Two things can 670 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 2: be true at once. The duality of Sam Darnald is 671 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 2: what I'm hearing. 672 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: I am. I'm a little worried that when I get 673 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: deep into the tendencies of coverage rules and how three 674 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: people are going to go with Justin Jefferson to my 675 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: loved ones, that I'm going to lose track of it 676 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: and they won't know what the hell I'm talking about. 677 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: This is how you actually get them, This is how 678 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: you get them. 679 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: It's a little deep. Yeah, it's a tough one. I 680 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: feel like this feels a little targeted towards me. 681 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 4: Maybe I'm just giving the public some advice and therapy 682 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 4: on the self help time of this holiday public is 683 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 4: quickly approaching. 684 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: Look that Donald Hyatt. They're going to enjoy week one. 685 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 686 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: It is a great situation. You're not going to play that. 687 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 3: I was so excited when I saw Sam Darnold. 688 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch this team. As much as I like, 689 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: I agree with you, I think the floor is going 690 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: to be higher. That he's been a disappointing player and 691 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: he's got a real chance to rewrite the type of 692 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: player he is where that he can be a useful 693 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: NFL starter. But they're going to get over their skis, 694 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, the Darnald Hive. 695 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 5: I only the first part of your sentence. 696 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: So all right, Colleen, let's go around the room one 697 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: more time. 698 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 3: So here we go. 699 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 2: This one goes out to Jets fans, Hey, Jets fans, 700 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 2: Your old friend Colleen here to offer you a shoulder 701 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: to cry on, because that's what friends are for. Tough 702 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 2: drawl for Week one, open the season on the road, 703 00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: last game of the week against a team that almost 704 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl, reached the NFC Championship three times 705 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: in the last five years. 706 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: It was rough. 707 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,399 Speaker 2: I gotta lie a team without one of their most 708 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 2: dynamic weapons and a surprise pregame twist who used an 709 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 2: undrafted free agent out of Georgia Tech to rush for 710 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 2: one hundred and forty seven yards on your defense, a 711 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 2: defense ran by Robert Sala and Jeff Olbrick, both former 712 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:30,880 Speaker 2: forty nine ers. But the strongest steal goes through the 713 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 2: hottest fire. So at some point these crucibles should pay off. 714 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,480 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, he still has a cannon of an arm. 715 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,439 Speaker 2: You waited an entire year for Rogers to come back. 716 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 2: You have to trust the patients, trust the process. And 717 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 2: I know it's been repeated one hundred thousand times from 718 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 2: the book of Aaron Rodgers. 719 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 3: Relax. 720 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: I know I always respond so well when someone else 721 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,920 Speaker 2: tells me so Titan things up. 722 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 3: You actually have. 723 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 2: The Titans next week, who just like you lost. Maybe 724 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: give Hassan Raddick a call. And remember it's not as 725 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 2: bad as last year's. 726 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 3: Week one loss. 727 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: They won Week one last year, right, But this. 728 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 3: Is like what the Aaron Rodgers of it all. 729 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: You would rather Robert Sala said, you would rather lose 730 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,239 Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers than win without it. 731 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 4: Essentially, I did like on the broadcast they had a 732 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 4: sort of a graphic celebrating after Rogers made it past 733 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 4: four plays. 734 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 5: It was like a little ticker on the that's. 735 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: Rude, that's too much. I do put myself in the 736 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: shoes though, of listening in this therapy session, and I 737 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: think if going through the Crucible made you stronger, the 738 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Jets fans in their organization would be the strongest in 739 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: the NFL. And yet where are the results. 740 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: You know, they're still going through it, They're still building, 741 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 2: they're still like fortifying. 742 00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: I think there was something there too, with the whole 743 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: Roberts a Kyle Shanahan thing. I don't know that. 744 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 5: I can't like he knew hominous respect. 745 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,240 Speaker 3: I guess you could have said he has aminous respect 746 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 3: if the Jets had. 747 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: Got in there and went, I could say the opposite. 748 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: But he felt I felt like he really knew what 749 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: to do to scramble this great Robert Salad defense, because 750 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: that's the worst Jets performance since Robert Sala has been 751 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: there in terms of the defense. He knew exactly how 752 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,240 Speaker 1: to attack that group and he used to go against 753 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 1: Robert Sala every single day in practice. 754 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 4: It is a classic Kyle Shanahan against the former coach 755 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 4: move to play a deep reserve running back or you know, 756 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 4: former un drafted or late round pick running back and 757 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 4: just hammer your biggest weakness on defense, which is their 758 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 4: defensive line with especially minus Reddick, and just hammer and 759 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 4: hammer and hammer, and like circle the group on the 760 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 4: little whiteboard in the meetings with a green circle and 761 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 4: then that's who you run at the entire time. That 762 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: is a classic Kyle shan on a hand versus former 763 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 4: assistant move that front. I mean to counter a little 764 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 4: I mean, I I think I think the Titans are 765 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 4: also going to run the snot out of the ball 766 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 4: at this front. So Joe douglas man take Colleen's therapeutic advice. 767 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 5: Get on the post on Reddick, Where are you right? 768 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: I don't know did those problems? I don't know if 769 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: a sod Reddick can fix them all? But he would help, 770 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: it would it would be nice. Yeah, you traded a 771 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: third round pick for him. All right, I'm gonna take 772 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,240 Speaker 1: you to something a little different than like a therapist office. 773 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 1: Is more of a crisis management team. Oh wow, the 774 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: NFL league office. Actually the hotline. It's Roger Goodell's office. 775 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:46,360 Speaker 1: Let's start with the bad news, boss, Roger, can I 776 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 1: call you? Uh yeah? That was the fewest passing touchdowns 777 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: since so six that's true in a week one back then. 778 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: The top quarterbacks that week were Donovan McNabb, Kurt Warren, 779 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: and Charlie Batch. No way fun quarterback Charlie Batch. The 780 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 1: fewest net passing yards since two thousand in a week one, 781 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: down almost thirty percent from the all time high, which 782 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: was only five years ago. That was fun when we 783 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: just thought we're gonna be putting up forty every week 784 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: and it's passing, passing, passing. Only two three hundred yard passers. 785 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: All that's bad. You know what's good what evolution. This 786 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: is a game where whatever's in eventually goes out, whatever's 787 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 1: out goes in. You know what made people fall in 788 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 1: love with football in the first place. It's physicality. It's 789 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: the running game. It's steamrolling over defenders. When the sport 790 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: exploded in the seventies and eighties, that was the sport. 791 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: And the running game is coming back. And if you 792 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 1: look at the EPA per play, we are closer than 793 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: we have been in so long to a run being 794 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: as efficient as a pass on APPA if you include 795 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: quarterback scrambles, they actually were in Week one, which is 796 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,919 Speaker 1: absolutely crazy roj. Which gets to my other point here. 797 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: People love the quarterbacks running. That was the most quarterback 798 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: rushing yards in a Week one ever, Like, what is 799 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: more fun than a quarterback running? It's not hurting scoring. 800 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: We fix things, you know, a little bit with the 801 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: field position. As long as we're scoring, like things will change. 802 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: The coolest kids in the league like Mike McDaniel are 803 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,399 Speaker 1: putting full backs on the field and multiple tight ends 804 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 1: like it's all an evolution, and the evolution is what 805 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 1: makes our sport better than all the others. 806 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 4: It is it cycles around every five to seven years. 807 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 4: You're seeing defensive personnel also get larger, but also more 808 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 4: hybrid safeties who can play linebacker again like we did 809 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 4: eight ten years ago. You're seeing multiple tight ends on 810 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 4: the field for a lot of teams. You're seeing teams 811 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,320 Speaker 4: load up and play keep away, either with that heavy 812 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,600 Speaker 4: personnel and a great running back or a tandem of 813 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 4: run who are splitting a carry share and using the 814 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 4: quarterback as not just a running weapon but a battering ram. 815 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 4: If I'm talking about Anthony Richardson that amazing play that 816 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 4: he made over the weekend. You're using all of this 817 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 4: to score versus these explosive pass plays, and the league 818 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 4: is sort of rubber banding back from where defense is. 819 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: Kind of like it. I kind of like that, like 820 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,640 Speaker 1: a big time passing day, like too, I had a 821 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: big passing day, like feels really special. I like it 822 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: because it feels different because I just at some point 823 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,200 Speaker 1: I just assumed it was going up forever. And I 824 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: think it's cool that it's it's a little different. 825 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, everything old is new again, and that is the 826 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 2: case for the NFL. 827 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 4: I will tell you, yes, my hill, that I will 828 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 4: die on the tiny table. Take that is a little 829 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 4: too wild for tiny table. 830 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: Day that let's not talk about our tiny table tape. 831 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,880 Speaker 1: The Cowboys are gonna walking away from that tiny table. 832 00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 4: I think that if passing stays down, scoring is scoring 833 00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 4: is up and the same, and that's good and that's 834 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 4: what the league cares about obviously. But if passing stays down, 835 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 4: I do think more rule changes could be on it. 836 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: Sure, Oh yeah, that was part of the subtext. We 837 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,280 Speaker 1: don't want to get in trouble here, but yes, we're always, 838 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, looking to just put our finger on the 839 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 1: dial to help out those quarterbacks. It's fun. People like its. 840 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: Let's see a little more long ball though, Like the 841 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: average air yards per attempt has been like nose diving. 842 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,640 Speaker 1: All the passes are shorter. I don't love that. 843 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 3: I just want more Anthony Richards. 844 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's he's kind of exactly what we want running 845 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: in bombs all right. Final one, Jordan. 846 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 4: Well, this is more of a pep talk slash dose 847 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 4: of reality here. Anther's fans, this is your life, and 848 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 4: I hope it gets better. Oh Panthers fans. I truly 849 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 4: want better for you. You deserve better than partner after partner, 850 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 4: season after season, forecasting to you a lifetime of happiness 851 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 4: and joy, only to leave you crying on your couch 852 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 4: after some transgression. It's not your fault. So instead, I 853 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 4: can't watch you get hurt anymore. So instead of opening 854 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 4: yourself up to once again hope and cautious optimism. And 855 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 4: I know, I know it's tempting to listen to the 856 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,720 Speaker 4: hope mongering and buy back in, it's time to steel 857 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 4: yourselves to reality. This team will be rebuilding for multiple years. 858 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 4: The roster, inherited and in part enabled by general manager 859 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 4: Dan Morgan is a disaster to veteran and depleted a 860 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 4: key positions on defense. 861 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 5: Even Igiro Evro, who's regarded. 862 00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,959 Speaker 4: As a top defensive coordinator, as having a hard time 863 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 4: scheming around some of this. If you have to claim 864 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 4: three dbs off of waivers on August twenty. 865 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 5: Eighth, you are in danger. 866 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: Girl. 867 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: The offense, it's still obviously a work in progress at receiver, 868 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 4: tight end, running back, and multiple offensive line positioned. 869 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 5: Rebuilding takes time. It takes patience. 870 00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 4: Only a team with an above average to elite quarterback 871 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 4: can sprint rebuild, and it's still not clear whether you 872 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 4: do have a quarterback who can lead you into the 873 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 4: next era. Getting a clean evaluation of Bryce Young is 874 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,840 Speaker 4: the most important task this season. When you know what 875 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 4: you have at quarterback or don't have, you can define 876 00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 4: the rebuild window. Developing a very young, very relatively inexperienced 877 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 4: head coach and Dave Canalis is the second most important thing. 878 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,800 Speaker 4: Overhauling the talent identification process within the pro and college 879 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 4: scouting departments, which Dan Morgan quietly started to do this summer, 880 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 4: is third. It will take time, and I don't know 881 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 4: who needs to hear this, somebody important, probably, But without 882 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,240 Speaker 4: a quarterback, this type of ecosystemic construction will take multiple years. 883 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 4: It will take patients, It will take a non reactionary 884 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 4: understanding of where to keep developing and where to cut ties. 885 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 4: Panthers fans, I want you to win. I want you 886 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 4: to feel the rush of joy. But I can't watch 887 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: you build up hope every spring and summer only to 888 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 4: suffer after all that's happened. Perhaps there's freedom too, and 889 00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 4: simply going numb for a while. 890 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's a good idea of this go 891 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: to surrender this season, be like, be like our friend 892 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,360 Speaker 1: David Ely in the newsroom, and he's just he's not 893 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 1: claiming the Panthers anymore. He's just like he'll come back someday. 894 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,440 Speaker 1: But I think he's disconnecting for a little while. And 895 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: that's okay. When you have someone toxic, something toxic in 896 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 1: your life, it's okay to just cut him out till 897 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,840 Speaker 1: they get better. 898 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you just gotta let a let loosen your grip 899 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 2: on the wheel a bit and maybe just hit auto 900 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 2: pilot for a little while. 901 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: It's a long season. I do worry that you won't 902 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: get like a complete evaluation of Brycing if every game 903 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: was like this. But I think the offensive line, which 904 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 1: wasn't terrible, I didn't think of this game actually like 905 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 1: there was a couple of busts in terms of figuring. 906 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,880 Speaker 5: Out that would blitz sump into your quarterback. 907 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 1: As you're yeah, it wasn't great, but uh, hopefully that 908 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,879 Speaker 1: part of it improves. They do need a left tackle though, 909 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,959 Speaker 1: you know they whift on on con. I just don't 910 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: think that's ever gonna happen for them. That's why you 911 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: gotta go numb. All right, let's not go numb to 912 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,280 Speaker 1: our TNF preview that's gonna be right after the break. 913 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: We'll see you back on NFL Daily. And it is 914 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,240 Speaker 1: time for our TNF preview, presented by Prime Video Thursday 915 00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 1: Night Football. I'm excited. This is a great TNF game, 916 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 1: Dolphins and Bills, and you should check out myself and 917 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: Bill Barnwell of ESPN, one of the very best in 918 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:41,720 Speaker 1: the business. We're gonna go live on YouTube about fifteen 919 00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 1: minutes after the game, once we get our notes in order, 920 00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,319 Speaker 1: and we'll do our TNF recap then. But let's talk 921 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: about this game. Two teams that one in week one 922 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: give us a little extra juice when it's too one 923 00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:59,799 Speaker 1: of oh teams. These two teams have obviously played a 924 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 1: lot over the last couple years because they also had 925 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,320 Speaker 1: a playoff game two years ago. And it sort of 926 00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 1: slipped my mind that the Bills have won four in 927 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 1: a row, so Sean McDermott's kind of had Mike McDaniel's number, 928 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,439 Speaker 1: although most of them have been close. But last year 929 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,080 Speaker 1: in a big spot, the Dolphins were I think we're 930 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,640 Speaker 1: three to oh, and the Bills went down to Miami 931 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: and put a hurt on them, and then they won 932 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: the division against them in Week eighteen in Buffalo. So 933 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,359 Speaker 1: right now the division goes through Buffalo. What did we take, 934 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,719 Speaker 1: Colleen kind of out of week one that we can 935 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,399 Speaker 1: push forward into this match. 936 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, both of these teams rallied from fourteen point 937 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 2: deficits in the first half to win their respective games. 938 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 2: Obviously for Buffalo. For both teams it's a short week, 939 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 2: but for Buffalo it's a short week to prepare for 940 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,640 Speaker 2: a really fast team. I'm really excited to see Jordan 941 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,400 Speaker 2: Poyer in this game, who spent seven seasons in Buffalo. 942 00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 3: Now he signed with Miami. 943 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 2: Play against Josh Allen after going against him so many 944 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 2: years in practice, they finally get to actually have a 945 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,960 Speaker 2: real game matchup against each other. And Josh Allen coming 946 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 2: off of that game where he had it was a 947 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 2: crazy game for him, four touchdowns, he was hurtling, he 948 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 2: was running all. 949 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 3: Over the place. 950 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 2: They were worried about his left arm for a while, 951 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: but as Steve Mariucci said last night, left arm, left 952 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,799 Speaker 2: hand doesn't even matter. You don't even need it if 953 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,400 Speaker 2: you're wrong with your right one. But Josh Allen picked 954 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 2: apart Miami secondary last year in both of those games, 955 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 2: so I think that this is one that it's obviously 956 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,239 Speaker 2: going to be an awesome game. I loved watching Joe 957 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,400 Speaker 2: Brady run the ball in Buffalo. 958 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 3: He just fed James Cook. It just opened things up. 959 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,280 Speaker 2: And then defensively the Bills, they're gonna need Cam Lewis 960 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: again to step up because Taran Johnson they won't have 961 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,600 Speaker 2: him their nickel corner. He heard his forearm against the 962 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 2: Cardinals in that first drive, and Lewis was pretty effective 963 00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 2: stopping the pass and the run in his place. And 964 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:01,840 Speaker 2: he takes a lot of pride in his versatility that 965 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 2: he plays at that position. He can play corner, safety 966 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: at nickel corner, and he can just wear a lot 967 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 2: of different hats in the secondary. They can rotate him around, 968 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 2: so he's kind of their Swiss Army knife, which they're 969 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:13,759 Speaker 2: lucky to have. 970 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Toron Johnson was a guy I remember, the athletic 971 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: Joe Basaglia does a great job with him. He had 972 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: a list of like, who are the most indispensable players 973 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 1: on their entire team. I think he had Toron Johnson 974 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: number two. So it's just because he's so good and 975 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,000 Speaker 1: so that's something you worry about obviously going against the Dolphins, 976 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:34,240 Speaker 1: who can put Tyreek or Jalen Waddle in the slot. 977 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 1: I think the best defense maybe against the Dolphins is 978 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,600 Speaker 1: just being a loaded offense. It's you know, the reason 979 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: I picked this Buffalo's team to win the Super Bowl 980 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: was because of their offense. Now, the matchup was right 981 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: in Week one, but they led the entire NFL by 982 00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: far in success. Right, they went up and down the 983 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 1: field on the Cardinals despite falling from behind. They went 984 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 1: for fourth down a couple times in situations where Sean 985 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,400 Speaker 1: McDermott I don't think would have in the past. It 986 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: didn't work in the first half, it worked in the 987 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,880 Speaker 1: second half. So like I love you, I love that 988 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, stay aggressive. This is an offensive team now, 989 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,839 Speaker 1: and I just love the cohesion in the running game. 990 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: It looks so good like they know when to use 991 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen as a runner in the red zone without 992 00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 1: majoring in that, but Ray Davis has some burst as 993 00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 1: a backup, and James Cook looks awesome, and it looks 994 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 1: like an offensive line Jordan that has been together now 995 00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: for a couple of years. They just gave Spencer Brown 996 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: a new contract actually this week, and I love that 997 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: running game going up against this Dolphins defense, who I 998 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: thought also played well in Week one. 999 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, because the Dolphins pressure looks a little bit better 1000 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:37,760 Speaker 4: so far early. Obviously, they got some guys back from 1001 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 4: injuries last season. So you're gonna if you're the Bills 1002 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 4: and Josh Allen, you are gonna want to run the 1003 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 4: ball at this front. I think kind of ironically, they're 1004 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 4: gonna What I would do if I were them, would 1005 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 4: be to do similar to what the Cardinals initially tried 1006 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 4: to do against Josh Allen and the Bills, which is 1007 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 4: load up, run the ball, and play keep away and 1008 00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 4: try to keep the ball out of a tug of 1009 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,880 Speaker 4: Iloa's hands, out of Tyreek Hill's hands, and specifically to 1010 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,240 Speaker 4: protect your own defense, which is super vulnerable the Bills 1011 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 4: defenses in the middle of the field, at inside linebacker 1012 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,160 Speaker 4: and at safety, where they've been having quite a few 1013 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 4: issues with coverage. The Cardinals were really effectively able to 1014 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 4: use misdirection to change the contact points against some of 1015 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 4: these linebackers and safeties Tailor Rap struggled in coverage, and 1016 00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 4: you're also again like to y'all's point, you're you're without 1017 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 4: Taron Johnson, and the Dolphins are the misdirection pre snap 1018 00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: motion kings right seventy nine percent of offensive plays in 1019 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,839 Speaker 4: Week one, they're also used. 1020 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 5: They're also running the ball. 1021 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 4: And a lot of to a tongue of Iloa's passing 1022 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 4: is coming out of pistol to keep the misdirection in 1023 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,839 Speaker 4: the run game forty one point and forty percent in shotguns, 1024 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 4: So they're really keeping everything open in front to try 1025 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,760 Speaker 4: to get a lot of that pre snap movement going. 1026 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,040 Speaker 4: So again to your point, Greg, if the Bills can 1027 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 4: run the ball effectively, you actually can keep the ball 1028 00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:57,319 Speaker 4: out of to a tongue of Iloa's hands and out 1029 00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,720 Speaker 4: of that offensive offensive hand, offensive hands where the Dolphins 1030 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,279 Speaker 4: are kind of kings at attacking the parts of the 1031 00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,240 Speaker 4: field where the Bills are the most vulnerable. 1032 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,000 Speaker 1: Right now, right last week, who is it? Terrell Bernard 1033 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 1: who had a tough time against the Cardinals and Dorian 1034 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 1: Williams who's stepping in for Matt Allana, he struggled. I 1035 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,919 Speaker 1: like the agro tua. Him and McDaniel kind of talked 1036 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,280 Speaker 1: about this idea of skipping reads that in the past, 1037 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:24,360 Speaker 1: like he had the like a high low concept where 1038 00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: the receivers open underneath and that's actually his first read. 1039 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,400 Speaker 1: But now he's kind of learned, like, hey that I 1040 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: seen what I see pre snap and knowing it's Tyreek 1041 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 1: out there, like, let's just skip past that first read. 1042 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,040 Speaker 1: Let's get super aggressive. And they protected pretty well. I 1043 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,080 Speaker 1: want to take back what I said on the Sunday 1044 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 1: night recap after rewatching this game a little bit. I 1045 00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:46,879 Speaker 1: think the offensive line actually played well. They feel good 1046 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 1: right now that they have at least three quality players. 1047 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 1: They have the right tackle who they gave money to, 1048 00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: toront Armstat's healthy right now, and they got center Aaron 1049 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: brewerback who had a nice first game, and they're going 1050 00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: to be going up. Yeah. I think the offenses have 1051 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: the advantage just on both sides of the ball. Although 1052 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:06,399 Speaker 1: little von Miller pop Week one, von Miller was kind 1053 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 1: of backsso I think is making the leap. But von 1054 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,040 Speaker 1: Miller had like five pressures. He didn't play the whole game. 1055 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:14,560 Speaker 1: I think that's good. Maybe a little less is more 1056 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: for von Miller because. 1057 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,799 Speaker 2: Oh he sucked Kyler Murray like three times and he 1058 00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: had the force fumble. 1059 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:28,000 Speaker 1: I love this uh. Two, when I look at the 1060 00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:32,440 Speaker 1: Bill's secondary, the matchup of Tyreek Hill and Christian Benford, 1061 00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,360 Speaker 1: who's who's kind of like a sneaky, like Pro Bowl 1062 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,359 Speaker 1: like potential candidate. He had a really good Week one. 1063 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,200 Speaker 1: A lot of it was against Marvin Harrison Junior. He 1064 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: shut them down. And then you mentioned finally the Dolphins defense. 1065 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: New coordinator Anthony Weaver didn't really blitz at all in 1066 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,800 Speaker 1: Week one, which was interesting, and they got some good pressure. 1067 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,359 Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips is back from this achilles tear and had 1068 00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 1: a really good Week one. Jalen Ramsey did not, and 1069 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 1: so that's just something to watch. Maybe it was he 1070 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,360 Speaker 1: wasn't practicing for a while. Yeah, so maybe that was 1071 00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,600 Speaker 1: an issue. Kalis Campbell what an amazing signing. Everything he 1072 00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:11,239 Speaker 1: went through that was terrible last week. But kind of 1073 00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: lost in that is like Khalaias Campbell was on the 1074 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 1: field and was one of the best players. Again, he's ageless. 1075 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 5: He's just remarkable as a player as a human. 1076 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, she's one of the best. 1077 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: And like he was one of the reasons they won 1078 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: that game in early sack in that game. All right, 1079 00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,480 Speaker 1: let's pick it. We'll start with you, Jordan. 1080 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,319 Speaker 4: I'm gonna pick the Dolphins just because I do think 1081 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 4: that if you can stop the run against the. 1082 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 5: Bill, a tall task, that's a big if. 1083 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 4: If you could stop the run against the Bills and 1084 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 4: get the ball back into the Dolphins offense's hands, the 1085 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 4: Bills are so so vulnerable in the parts of the 1086 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 4: field that Tua and that offense likes to attack and 1087 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 4: is very successful. 1088 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:50,080 Speaker 2: At my god, this is such a tough one to call, 1089 00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 2: but I think just because of the Dolphins speed on 1090 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 2: the short week, and then all of the issues that 1091 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,319 Speaker 2: Buffalo has on their defense, like there's just too many 1092 00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,680 Speaker 2: ways that Mike McDaniel can attack them. 1093 00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,560 Speaker 3: So it's I'm gonna go Dolphins. 1094 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: Always tough for the road team and the Thursday night, yeah, 1095 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 1: second week especially, this is something where like whichever team 1096 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,479 Speaker 1: can just rotate in players because like you're not really 1097 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: ready to play a full game and then you're really 1098 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,239 Speaker 1: not ready to play another full game four days later. 1099 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: But I'm taking the Bills only one of these teams, 1100 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,920 Speaker 1: says Josh Allen. That's my MVP pick, and I love 1101 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: I loved how he played in Week one. He had 1102 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 1: one play where he held it too long and fumbled. 1103 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: But for the most part, actually I thought he's making 1104 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: quicker decisions. I just think he gets these two quarterbacks 1105 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,319 Speaker 1: are so much better than they were two years ago 1106 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 1: in terms of decision making. He's making quicker decisions throwing 1107 00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 1: the ball too. So just I'm taking the team that 1108 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,799 Speaker 1: has Josh Allen and that has won four straight in 1109 00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: this matchup. That's a big one. Like that was this 1110 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: week's TNF preview, presented by Prime Video. Be sure to 1111 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: watch the Bills take on the Miami Dolphins this Thursday 1112 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,520 Speaker 1: on Prime Video. All right, uh, that's it. We got 1113 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: our preview show on Thursday. Drop in Steve Weish in 1114 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: the Chris Westleyan podcast studio, and of course Patrick Clayband. 1115 00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: So please check out the week two preview show and 1116 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:08,839 Speaker 1: cannot wait. 1117 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 5: We did some really excellent self work today. Guys. 1118 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,120 Speaker 3: You should be proud. 1119 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: Multiple things, can't you. We are worthy of love. Maybe 1120 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1121 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 5: I'm not like I believe him. 1122 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: If he's bad to you, don't even think twice you 1123 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,480 Speaker 2: don't need him anymore. 1124 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:24,359 Speaker 1: Wootball's back.