WEBVTT - Selects: 911 Is Not a Joke

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, Chuck here on your Saturday Selects, and hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm going to do. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>take us on a little walk down memory lane from

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty and my fix for the next geez maybe

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<v Speaker 1>up to twenty weeks for me and then Josh picks his,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe forty weeks almost a year. Are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be walking back through the year of COVID, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on thematically that year and before and after,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll see if there's any fruit to bear as

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<v Speaker 1>far as looking back. I hope this is more interesting

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<v Speaker 1>than your usual select. But we're going to start it

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<v Speaker 1>off with February thirteenth, twenty twenty pre COVID by about

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<v Speaker 1>a month ish with our episode nine to one one

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<v Speaker 1>is not a joke, all about nine to one one

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<v Speaker 1>and how it works.

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<v Speaker 2>Great episode, check it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff You Should Know, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. There's

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<v Speaker 2>Charles W.

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<v Speaker 3>Chuck Bryan over there, there's guest producer Josh t rocking

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<v Speaker 3>it out, and this is Stuff you should know.

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<v Speaker 2>Take to a dish. Yeah, one of the rare second takes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right it we lost a whole fourteen seconds of try

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<v Speaker 1>number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't any good anyway, That's what it was. Josh

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<v Speaker 3>turned into like Elvis Costell was like, no, no, stop stop.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, look at that reference snl callback. Yeah it

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<v Speaker 1>was nice.

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<v Speaker 3>So, as you can tell, Chuck, I'm pretty excited about

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<v Speaker 3>this episode, which is kind of surprising because talking about

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<v Speaker 3>nine to one one seems like it might be the

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<v Speaker 3>most boring thing we could talk about. You think untrue,

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<v Speaker 3>what with all the people dying and well, yeah, cat

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<v Speaker 3>stuck in trees?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure what else? I should name everything you shouldn't call

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<v Speaker 1>nine one one.

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<v Speaker 2>For Let's see neighbor playing his music too loud.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a bunch of stuff you shouldn't call nine

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<v Speaker 3>one one for, which we'll talk about. Sure, but one thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like I'm familiar with nine one one. I remember growing

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<v Speaker 3>up as a child in the eighties, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>I remember hearing about this new system that was coming

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<v Speaker 3>around when I was growing up in Toledo. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, that doesn't make any sense because nine

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<v Speaker 3>one one, it turns I has been around at least

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<v Speaker 3>since nineteen sixty eight in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been around way longer than parts in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>In UK, Yeah, true, but I like to think of

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<v Speaker 3>Toledo as kind of a happening spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, Toledo didn't get a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fully functional nine to one one system until nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you look it up? Yeah, so you guys resorted

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<v Speaker 1>to the previous method, which was run down the street

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<v Speaker 1>screaming for neighbors.

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<v Speaker 3>Just swinging a cat by its tail. Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>your siren.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I seem to remember. I don't know exactly when

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<v Speaker 1>we got it, but I think I remember it happening

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<v Speaker 1>like because if I if I remember correctly, when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid, we had one of those little cards

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<v Speaker 1>next to the kitchen phone that had police, fire and

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<v Speaker 1>whatever else. So that had to have been pre nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one or else we wouldn't have had that dumb thing, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would just confuse the children.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, call these numbers first, right, and if they don't answer,

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<v Speaker 3>called nine one one, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Then do the super easy thing that will rout it

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<v Speaker 1>to the correct person. Child.

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<v Speaker 3>Your parents have just taken out a substantial life insurance

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<v Speaker 3>policy on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>For uh, that's a long that's a long game, right,

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<v Speaker 3>there is so chuck as new as nine one one is,

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<v Speaker 3>even though it seems old, right, especially for younger listeners,

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<v Speaker 3>I would guess that it seems pretty.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably think it's been around since you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course some buggy days. Yeah, since rotary phone days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, So.

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<v Speaker 3>As as as old as it is or as new

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<v Speaker 3>as it is, it's gotten pretty.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh robust, very robust. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Every year. Are some stats that our buddy Dave Ruse

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<v Speaker 1>helped us compile two hundred and forty million calls in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. That is six hundred and fifty thousand calls

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<v Speaker 1>a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like nine hundred thousand calls a minute. No,

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<v Speaker 2>are you sure? I just did that. Back of the

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<v Speaker 2>arm made the double takes that I noted.

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<v Speaker 1>And another important thing here is that eighty percent of

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<v Speaker 1>calls these days are from your wireless phone. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>big deal, it is, which we'll get to, but that

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<v Speaker 1>changed things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The big spoiler is is that the nine to one

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<v Speaker 3>win system that we currently use in the United States

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<v Speaker 3>is hopelessly antiquated, and they're working on improving it. And

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<v Speaker 3>nothing that we should say about how antiquated it is

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<v Speaker 3>should keep you from calling nine one one. It still

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<v Speaker 3>generally works, but it's having trouble or it's had trouble

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<v Speaker 3>traditionally keeping pace with the massive sweeping changes in telecommunications. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>has gone on in the last couple days.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because telecom is always trying to move forward, and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't think like, oh, but maybe we should slid

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<v Speaker 1>the pace for nine to one one.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>No, And plus I mean nine one one is we'll

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<v Speaker 3>see those systems are built alongside the other system, so

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<v Speaker 3>when the other system leads forward, they have to go

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<v Speaker 3>through and rebuild this system.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just for nine to one one, because you can't

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of an old system because people, well we'll get.

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<v Speaker 2>To that stuff. We'll get to that. Let's not spoil it.

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<v Speaker 1>But we were laughing earlier about things that you should

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<v Speaker 1>and should not call for. Some of these are debatable,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, oh yeah, I think so it says who

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<v Speaker 1>says me, Okay, we'll get to the last one really

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<v Speaker 1>is the only one that's debatable. But obviously, if there's

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<v Speaker 1>a fire or smoke that you think is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Fire, where there's smoke, there's fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Medical emergency and you can't you know, obviously get an

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<v Speaker 1>ambulance or get in a get in your car and

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<v Speaker 1>run someone of the emergency room if you can. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's quicker and you can do those safely.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quicker and cheaper.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, sure, the gas maybe a couple of tolls,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows, compared to like an ambulance ride.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's a that's a good point. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>imagine if your home just loaded and your kid gets hurt, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you should probably call nine one one, Yeah, call nine one.

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<v Speaker 1>Car accidents, of course, if they are major enough and

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<v Speaker 1>like have injuries, yeah, call nine one one.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be able to tell, like if somebody's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of hurt my neck, you don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>call nine one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You could call Here's the other thing.

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<v Speaker 3>If we're saying don't call nine one one, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean like don't alert anybody, right, But there are there's

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<v Speaker 3>a your police have their own phone number, Your local

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<v Speaker 3>police have their own phone numbers. They do look it

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<v Speaker 3>up and call that the non emergency number.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And then obviously the last category is some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of crime being committed, violence being committed.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, call nine one one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's like no one's gonna argue with that, I think, so, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>there are plenty of instances where you shouldn't call nine

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<v Speaker 3>one one, and yet people rely. I oblique called nine

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<v Speaker 3>one for stuff like this, And I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think that's because it's been drilled into everyone's head. It's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a double edged sword. You can't drill that

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<v Speaker 1>into everyone's head. One nine one. All you gotta do

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<v Speaker 1>is call nine one one and then not expect to

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<v Speaker 1>get some cat stuck in the tree calls.

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<v Speaker 2>You keep going back to that, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually had did that when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you called nine one one for that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know the funny story. It's not very funny

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<v Speaker 1>to my dad, but we had a cat stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>a tree. My dad went up and he got stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the tree and.

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<v Speaker 2>He just climbed up too high. Yeah, and he got

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<v Speaker 2>freaked out. I think, so that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was a kid, so you know they

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<v Speaker 1>weren't saying, your father's very afraid and has screwed up, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just a kid kind of like, well, now

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<v Speaker 1>dad's up there, and now there's firemen here helping my

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<v Speaker 1>dad out of a tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Cats and dads get stuck in tree.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and looking back. I think that's totally probably what happened. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>he got way up there, it's freaked out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's cute. I have to ask him

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<v Speaker 2>about that one day.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so your dad stuck in a tree, I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>that's call nine one One's a choice. Cat's stuck in

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<v Speaker 3>a tree. Now, unless you live in Pleasantville, don't call

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<v Speaker 3>nine one one for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have a question about the speeding ticket you

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<v Speaker 3>got the other day, that's not a call that you

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<v Speaker 3>would place through nine one one.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, you can just call. There's even a number on

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<v Speaker 2>the back of the ticket.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't be dumb. Okay, hey, bring that back just for

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<v Speaker 3>that second. Okay, what else, chuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, of course, anything dealing with your animals, unless well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even gonna say that. I was gonna say,

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<v Speaker 1>if there's an animal attacking someone, yeah, you would call

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<v Speaker 1>call nine one one for that. Come out and shoot

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<v Speaker 1>this dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically it could be rabid. It's terrible call hect hate out.

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<v Speaker 1>But otherwise, if the cat in the tree, lost, animals,

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<v Speaker 1>injured animals, noisy neighbors, I love that day. Puts power

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<v Speaker 1>outage in here and in parentheses, call your power company.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's that last one I think is a little It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of opens a can of worms, and that is

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<v Speaker 1>the suspicious person thing, because you know, they say to

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<v Speaker 1>call for suspicious activity, which theoretically is a suspicious person.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the distinction is in what we see and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into this later racial biases. You know, people

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<v Speaker 1>in neighborhoods calling the cops on someone because they're black

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<v Speaker 1>and walking down my street, which happens, That is not

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<v Speaker 1>a suspicious person even, I mean if there's nothing going on,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, people try to justify it. But then local

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<v Speaker 1>police say, you know, hey, always call us if you

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<v Speaker 1>think something might be going on. And that's where it

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<v Speaker 1>gets dodgy, because that comes down to a human being's perception.

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<v Speaker 1>So it can be very tilted.

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<v Speaker 3>As Dave puts it, he put it a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>ways that I thought were pretty smart. He said, people

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<v Speaker 3>aren't suspicious. Behavior is suspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they say specifically to call nine one for

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious activities. But again, these are people, so it's just

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<v Speaker 1>such a weird fine line you're walking there.

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<v Speaker 3>The other little litmus tests that I've seen is stop

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<v Speaker 3>just for a second because of this suspicious behavior. You

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<v Speaker 3>see somebody like breaking into a car, like assaulting somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>that's beyond suspicious.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like the act, that's the act, it's a crime

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<v Speaker 1>being committed.

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<v Speaker 3>So you have a second when you see a suspicious

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<v Speaker 3>person to stop and think, like would I call nine

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<v Speaker 3>on one if this person were white? Right, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>a black person doing this, say would I call NIME

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<v Speaker 3>one with this person?

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<v Speaker 2>We're black?

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<v Speaker 3>And if the answers no, then maybe you shouldn't call.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they're not acting that suspiciously.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just interesting. On these Facebook neighborhood pages, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of evenly divided between people saying don't call nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one for this, this is just a guy going

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<v Speaker 1>door to door perhaps other people saying, no, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's nine forty five or ten o'clock at night

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<v Speaker 1>and someone's knocking on your door in our neighborhood.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like suspicious. Maybe you should call.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops and let them work it out. And for

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<v Speaker 1>the cops, they say, you know, call us. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're going to dispatch eight cars to your home,

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<v Speaker 1>but we might work you through the situation and it's

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<v Speaker 1>all going to be fine. Yes, But this is the

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<v Speaker 1>only one where I thought was a little bit like,

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<v Speaker 1>you shouldn't just say, like, don't call nine one one

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<v Speaker 1>when you see a suspicious person.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you certainly shouldn't say that. At the same time that,

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the big hesitations for calling nine

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<v Speaker 3>one one these days is like the either the increase

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<v Speaker 3>or the increase in reporting of people innocent people who

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<v Speaker 3>had nine one one called on them being killed by

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<v Speaker 3>the cops exactly that, and that death would not have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Their death wouldn't have happened had the person been suspicious

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<v Speaker 3>of them and called nine one one. And the fact,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, when when news of something like that gets out,

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<v Speaker 3>it will make you second guess that kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're for sure you're It makes you realize you're

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<v Speaker 3>bringing like people who are armed and jumpy out to

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<v Speaker 3>a situation where it's just somebody walking around or wherever.

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<v Speaker 3>And when you look at it from that respect, it

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<v Speaker 3>can make you second guess the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and things can look it can look like potential

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<v Speaker 1>malfeasance that's not you know, like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>you see a lot of people saying, well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>someone's kising my house because a car pulled it into

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<v Speaker 1>my driveway and sat there for two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked me if I want to know more about

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<v Speaker 2>Sierra Corus.

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<v Speaker 1>Or someone stopped and was taking pictures of my house,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you never know, somebody might be taking picture of

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<v Speaker 1>the oak tree that they're trying to learn about, or

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<v Speaker 1>just looking up something on their phone and standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the direction of your house.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, nine times out of ten, they're trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out more about the oak tree near your house.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I'm trying to give people the benefit of the doubt,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I'm with you anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that's where it gets a little dodgy, for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>and what we'll have statistics that the thick later on

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<v Speaker 1>about actual racial bias because it's real.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, Okay, moving on. You want to take a little

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<v Speaker 3>break after that? It seems like a good spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I think I do.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, everybody, we're taking a rare Josh break and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're back. That Josh break was invigorating.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't doing anything. I was just taking a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of oak tree. When you get off my.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, Oh my gosh, what kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of oak is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Sir?

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<v Speaker 3>There's only one kind of oak. I know there's a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of different oaks. Everyone in Ireland is like, no,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>While we're mentioning calling nine one one though you can

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<v Speaker 1>get arrested. It is a crime to prank call nine

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<v Speaker 1>one one.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Or to swat. It's called swatting.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a bit I think that deserves its own podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe because there was some some guy got killed right

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<v Speaker 1>from a swating incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think it's happened more than once.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's serious stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't know it's swatting is we'll just give

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<v Speaker 3>you the four to one one on this abuse of

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<v Speaker 3>nine one one.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I love myself. Somethings great.

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<v Speaker 3>So swatting is where you are a hacker, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can disguise the number that you're coming you're calling

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<v Speaker 3>from to make it look like you're calling from a

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<v Speaker 3>house that you want the cops to go to, and

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<v Speaker 3>you basically say like I'm in this house and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>holding hostages and what are you going to do about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Johnny law?

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<v Speaker 3>And the law comes out and usually swat that I

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<v Speaker 3>shouldn't say. Usually in some cases the swat team will

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<v Speaker 3>actually enter this house where people who have no idea

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<v Speaker 3>what's going on are and maybe that the people who

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<v Speaker 3>have been swatted, you know, said something mean to to

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<v Speaker 3>the guy who you know, called the swat team out

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<v Speaker 3>on them. But it's basically it's not like saying like

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<v Speaker 3>there's a I think there's a hostage situation in this house.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I'm the guy holding the hostages.

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<v Speaker 2>And here's where I am mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Like in swat teams stick right exactly, the swat team's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna go kill that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll bet you would never in a million years bring

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<v Speaker 3>your swat team out.

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<v Speaker 1>And whatever you do, don't come in guns blazing, right,

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<v Speaker 1>which we're joking about something that's really happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, So, like I really think we need to talk

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<v Speaker 3>at least a short side, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll look into it a little. First.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll do one on swatting and one on docksing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>two weird new things that people do now.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, but but swatting is definitely a crime. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>Also so that you don't make nine on one feel

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<v Speaker 3>like I think this is great. This is almost like

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<v Speaker 3>a public service announcement that we're in the midst of Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we do these so you you don't get in trouble

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<v Speaker 3>with the nine on one, so they don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>you're pranking them.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're not.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever called nine one one accidentally, or say

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<v Speaker 3>your kid does, or whatever, you do not want to

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<v Speaker 3>hang up the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I did that a few years ago. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like I accidentally called nine one one because I think

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<v Speaker 1>cell phones have a feature that it enacted like an

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<v Speaker 1>automatic call by accident, right, And I saw it and

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<v Speaker 1>I went, oh crap, and I hung up, right and

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<v Speaker 1>I got a call back, like in a second.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great. Ideally you should. Yeah, Umy has a great

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<v Speaker 3>story from when she was a kid. She got scared. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember something about her grandmother who was perfectly fine,

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<v Speaker 3>but she called nine one one and got scared with

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<v Speaker 3>nine one one answered and hung up, and they kept

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<v Speaker 3>calling back and she kept hanging up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very cute.

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<v Speaker 3>They came out to the house a little welfare checking. Yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 3>but you don't want to do that. Don't follow the

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<v Speaker 3>UMI model no of nine on one, Like just stay

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<v Speaker 3>on the phone and be like, I'm really sorry, this

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<v Speaker 3>is an accidental call, and I'm definitely not the bad

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<v Speaker 3>guy pretending.

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<v Speaker 2>That this is an accidental call. Make sure you say

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<v Speaker 2>that too.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Timmy, I'm five. It's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is little boy with brown hair.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think the history is fairly interesting because England

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<v Speaker 1>started nine not nine one one, but their version, which

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<v Speaker 1>is nine nine nine, way back in nineteen thirty seven

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<v Speaker 1>in London.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know it either, but they they were the

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<v Speaker 1>first city in the world that created the three digit model. Apparently,

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<v Speaker 1>as the story goes, there was a fire in downtown

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<v Speaker 1>London and people tried to get through the fire department

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<v Speaker 1>and they were put on hold and switched around, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they said the town crier came out and said

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<v Speaker 1>nine nine nine is the answer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which so nine nine nine it's easy to remember. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess no one else was using nine nine nine

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. But this is back in the day

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<v Speaker 3>of rotary phones, right, Oh yeah, so that that's actually

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<v Speaker 3>that was a It was a burden to dial nine

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<v Speaker 3>nine nine with the roadary.

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<v Speaker 2>Should have been for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I just thought that was kind of clumsy of them,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit clumsy of the Brits.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me see here. I think it was a

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<v Speaker 1>twelve mile radius around London at first after World War

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<v Speaker 1>Two and went wider and because you know, Britain liked

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<v Speaker 1>to do a little world conquering. You can find nine

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<v Speaker 1>nine to nine in cities all over the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where London has or where England has left their imprint.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a way to put it, for sure. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 3>the US of course said, well, we're not going to

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<v Speaker 3>let the Brits out do us.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going to do brexit. Hold my beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're gonna wait twenty something years and do it ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>Right exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So, I think in nineteen fifty seven, the Fire Chiefs Association, sorry,

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<v Speaker 3>the National Association of Fire Chiefs, I was way off.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, hey, we should come up with the easy

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<v Speaker 3>to remember three digit number for people to report five

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<v Speaker 3>and other people said, hey, that's a great idea. We'll we'll,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll do that to report emergencies. And the Fire Teams

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<v Speaker 3>Association said no, just fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Luckily no one listened to them. Well, they didn't listen

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<v Speaker 3>to the just firepart, that's right. And then a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years after that or maybe yeah, a few years later,

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<v Speaker 3>the National Academy Assizes said this is actually a really

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<v Speaker 3>good idea. We should do this for calling ambulances too.

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<v Speaker 3>And then finally a Presidential Commission on Law Enforcement and

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<v Speaker 3>the Administration of Justice said, no, all emergencies should have

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<v Speaker 3>a three digit, easy to remember number.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So the FCC says, who should we get in touch

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<v Speaker 1>with here?

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<v Speaker 2>How about AT and T?

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<v Speaker 1>Because these were the days of phone monopolies, right or

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<v Speaker 1>phone monopoly? It was just one right? No, I think

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<v Speaker 1>when did they break up the phone companies?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Before this, okay, because they broke them up into the

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<v Speaker 3>different bells, right, yeah? Were they were all the different

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<v Speaker 3>bells part of one big phone company.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Which one?

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<v Speaker 2>I just said, two different things?

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<v Speaker 1>The Liberty Bell, the Southern Bell, Yeah, bell from Pacific Bell,

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Bell, the bell from Beauty and the Beast, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>all the bells, Albuquerque Bell? Sure, why not? You can

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<v Speaker 1>ring my bell.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one. That's a good song.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a good one. But I think more and more

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<v Speaker 3>and more by Andrea true connection is far better.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Virtually the same thing, but just a better, better song.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they got in touch with AT and T. And

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<v Speaker 1>they said, can you help us out with this? Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>AT and T is the one that chose nine to

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<v Speaker 1>one one because it hadn't been used yet, which is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of the first stumbling block again.

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<v Speaker 2>The rotary dial.

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<v Speaker 1>Rotary dial that was nine one one's a lot better

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<v Speaker 1>than nine nine nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, it's two thirds better.

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<v Speaker 1>It is two thirds better and it was easy to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I think they had set up at

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<v Speaker 1>this point already for one one in a lot of areas,

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<v Speaker 1>so they just kind of extended that idea of the

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<v Speaker 1>something one one.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So the first this really surprised me, the first

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<v Speaker 3>nine one one call that was ever placed in the

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<v Speaker 3>United States.

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<v Speaker 2>New York City. You would think, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Washington, d C. No, Chicago, what else you got? Chicago?

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<v Speaker 2>You already said that one. Okay, I don't know. What

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<v Speaker 2>about Los Angeles? Yeah, what not? What about Albuquerque? They're

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<v Speaker 2>doing fine?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, No, none of those are correct. Haleyville, Alabama was

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<v Speaker 3>the site of the very first nine one one call.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a good little trivia question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is pedal to the metal.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I recently watched I had recorded all

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<v Speaker 1>those Jeopardy shows with the Ken Jennings on there. The

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<v Speaker 1>champions sure run some of the better TV I'd seen

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<v Speaker 1>in a while. Really good. Oh yeah, well, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you're a Jeopardy fan, it was as good as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets. Like they're smartest competitors and like big time

0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:10.480
<v Speaker 1>drama because they you know, they had to bring it

0:22:10.560 --> 0:22:12.840
<v Speaker 1>on those daily doubles. It wasn't like a regular show

0:22:13.560 --> 0:22:16.360
<v Speaker 1>like they were daily doubling on like twenty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff. Ooh, like it was really tense. Wow, good drama. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so cool because I think Ken knew that other guy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Holtzeltzer guy, was a gambler and he made his

0:22:26.560 --> 0:22:29.359
<v Speaker 1>name for really just going all in and kN knew this,

0:22:29.440 --> 0:22:30.640
<v Speaker 1>so he had to do the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Well sure, in order to beat these chumps.

0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.440
<v Speaker 3>If you're playing a gambler, you get dragged into gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether you want to gamble or not. Get in there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's good stuff anyway, good trivia question. It's probably been

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<v Speaker 1>on Jeopardy. Hayleyville, Alabama, did it was? It was kind

0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.800
<v Speaker 1>of a publicity stunt. It sounds like they so.

0:22:47.920 --> 0:22:52.639
<v Speaker 3>The little the little phone company there, the Alabama Telephony.

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<v Speaker 2>Co basically said it's pretty funny at.

0:22:55.600 --> 0:22:57.800
<v Speaker 3>And T is about to do this. You're about to

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<v Speaker 3>launch this nine one one system. We want to jump

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<v Speaker 3>on it and adopt it first. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>set this up as fast as we can. Because here's

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<v Speaker 3>the thing. We'll find out more about this in a minute.

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<v Speaker 3>But there's no national nine to one one system.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 3>All everywhere in the United States, nine one one reaches

0:23:14.560 --> 0:23:19.800
<v Speaker 3>an emergency dispatcher or an emergency operator, but each system

0:23:19.880 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 3>is local, regional at best. Right, So Hayleyville, Alabama, could

0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.320
<v Speaker 3>jump on this and set up their own system and

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<v Speaker 3>get started.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's exactly what they did, that's right.

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>February of nineteen sixty eight, they had a state senator

0:23:33.520 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 1>named Rank and fight he dialed nine to one to

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.919
<v Speaker 1>one as a you know, obviously, is this like a

0:23:38.960 --> 0:23:43.000
<v Speaker 1>photo op or video op? In other words, there wasn't

0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:46.760
<v Speaker 1>an emergency. Sure, It's like, man, what a coincidence that

0:23:46.800 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>the state senator had the first emergency.

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And happened to be standing next to the special phone.

0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>That's right. They had a special bat phone, a red phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think an Alabama congressman was on the other

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<v Speaker 1>end at the police station.

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<v Speaker 3>Ingressman Tom Bevel known as the pork King, really not

0:24:04.320 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 3>just the Alabama pork King, the pork King of Congress.

0:24:07.640 --> 0:24:10.280
<v Speaker 1>And the state centator said, what are you, pork King?

0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:12.760
<v Speaker 1>What are you doing at the police station? I've got

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>an emergency? And he said, are we really going to

0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>do this?

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Bit? I would force whoever's on the other line to

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<v Speaker 2>do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it was all just a big show to say, hey,

0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:26.320
<v Speaker 1>we did it first. They did it a week later.

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.800
<v Speaker 1>They still have a big festival every year or two,

0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:32.480
<v Speaker 1>sure festival. I wonder if they re enact this famous

0:24:32.480 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 1>phone call. Oh man, if we could play those two parts,

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm the pork King, how great would that be. Forget

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:39.720
<v Speaker 1>drunk history? Just put us up there.

0:24:40.680 --> 0:24:41.200
<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

0:24:42.040 --> 0:24:44.080
<v Speaker 1>And when I say forget drunk history, I mean we

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:45.400
<v Speaker 1>very much want to be on it.

0:24:45.840 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Are we still pursuing that?

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean just by occasionally yelling out of my

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:50.919
<v Speaker 1>window every now and then.

0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 2>The crickets are deafening.

0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm surprised no one said like, hey, this is

0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:02.000
<v Speaker 1>a natural fit. These guys are great storytellers about history.

0:25:02.240 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>They can get drunk with the best of them.

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<v Speaker 2>We've been saying this for years. No one's change.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, so Noam, Alaska about a week later did the

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:14.679
<v Speaker 1>same thing and were the second city. And then throughout

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>the seventies and eighties it kind of started rolling out.

0:25:17.240 --> 0:25:19.000
<v Speaker 1>But it takes a while to get this kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing going.

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:24.560
<v Speaker 3>It does because again it's a local again at best,

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 3>regional system okay, and your local city might not have

0:25:31.080 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 3>the money to put in a new telecommunications system to

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.840
<v Speaker 3>be used for emergency services. And at first, you know,

0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>cities that were a little more flush with cash because

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 3>they had a larger tax base had the money to

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:48.119
<v Speaker 3>roll these out. So as expected, aside from Hayleyville and Nome,

0:25:48.520 --> 0:25:51.560
<v Speaker 3>it was mostly like large metropolitan areas that were starting

0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 3>to roll out there the earliest nine to one one systems.

0:25:55.000 --> 0:25:59.960
<v Speaker 3>But the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which was the foundation

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<v Speaker 3>based on Johnson and Johnson's company, they took an early

0:26:05.720 --> 0:26:09.199
<v Speaker 3>interest in this and started handing out grants to rural

0:26:09.240 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 3>areas to set up their own nine one one systems.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 3>So ironically, Hayleyville, Alabama, had it not jumped on, it

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 3>probably still wouldn't have a nine to one one system

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.560
<v Speaker 3>where it not for the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation doling

0:26:22.560 --> 0:26:25.240
<v Speaker 3>out grants to like you know, small towns around the

0:26:25.240 --> 0:26:26.320
<v Speaker 3>country for their own.

0:26:26.320 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they're like you know what, people call nine

0:26:29.119 --> 0:26:32.080
<v Speaker 1>one one, they go to the hospital. We're using Johnson

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:33.040
<v Speaker 1>and Johnson products.

0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I'm.

0:26:35.320 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>Not being overly cynical. I'm sure that you know. Nine

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>one one's probably good for the band aid business.

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:44.439
<v Speaker 2>I would guess so. And baby shampoo, yeah, because if

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:47.719
<v Speaker 2>you can't get if you can't get an ambulance to

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:50.760
<v Speaker 2>that person, they're gonna croak. But if you get the

0:26:50.800 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 2>ambulance to them, right, you don't need band aids when

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:54.000
<v Speaker 2>you're dead.

0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 3>Nope, that's that's just like a fact of death. But

0:26:58.119 --> 0:27:00.200
<v Speaker 3>if you survive, you're gonna need all a lot of

0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.440
<v Speaker 3>band aids, depending on what you've done to yourself.

0:27:02.520 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Here's some stats for you.

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<v Speaker 1>By nineteen seventy six, when I was five years old,

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<v Speaker 1>only seventeen percent of the US had nine one one.

0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:13.640
<v Speaker 3>You want to know a surprising fact, nineteen seventy six,

0:27:13.840 --> 0:27:15.000
<v Speaker 3>I was just born.

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you probably weren't covered by nine one one again,

0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:19.560
<v Speaker 2>not until nineteen eighty nine.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, by nineteen eighty seven, only fifty percent of the country,

0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:27.320
<v Speaker 1>which is that's kind of that's pretty late. I would

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>have thought we would have had a lot more of

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the country covered by.

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:30.439
<v Speaker 2>Then, for sure, you would think so.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 3>And it wasn't until ninety nine, actually, Chuck, that that

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:40.400
<v Speaker 3>nine one one officially became the emergency number for everywhere

0:27:40.440 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 3>in America.

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen ninety nine.

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton said, let's do this. He said, what about

0:27:48.560 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>nine nine nine? And they went, Bill, Yeah, please, wrong country, Canada.

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Speaking of wrong countries, they are very much the right

0:27:55.800 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>country because they got on board with nine to one

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>one as well, that's absolutely true, Check, because they were like,

0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 1>why make things too difficult?

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:05.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a great question, Canada.

0:28:05.200 --> 0:28:07.440
<v Speaker 3>And I think the answer to that is you shouldn't

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:10.159
<v Speaker 3>make things too difficult, just kind of go with the flow.

0:28:11.600 --> 0:28:11.919
<v Speaker 1>America.

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Should we do some more stuff here?

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, maybe another break? Okay, are you okay

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 3>with that?

0:28:17.240 --> 0:28:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes? Are you sure? Yes?

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 3>What about you listeners? Okay, good, Well, we'll be right back. Okay, Chuck,

0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:42.280
<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about how it actually works.

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 1>In the early days, obviously it was all landline telephones.

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:52.840
<v Speaker 1>So when your call got routed to the switchboard, which

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>was a nine to one to one switchboard dedicated to that,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 1>they would patch you across phone lines that were dedicated

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to nine to one one to what's called a peace

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 1>app a public safety answering point. And at the time

0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>they were a lot of times like in the fire

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>department or in the police station.

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, so they could just turn their chair and be like, serge,

0:29:13.880 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 3>dispatch some people to this address.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>We got a suspicious person staring at oak trees right again, right.

0:29:22.200 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>And like originally, like today at nine one one dispatcher

0:29:26.360 --> 0:29:30.160
<v Speaker 3>is a highly trained, highly skilled person.

0:29:30.200 --> 0:29:32.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of stuff going on. It's like a

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:32.960
<v Speaker 2>flight attendant.

0:29:33.240 --> 0:29:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Remember when we've learned like flight attendants are actually trained

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 3>to save your life in an emergency, and they just

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.640
<v Speaker 3>hand out peanuts as like a side thing. This is

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.000
<v Speaker 3>basically the same thing with the nine to eleven operator

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.920
<v Speaker 3>call taker. They knowed how to do a lot of stuff,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 3>but the earliest ones just knew how to answer the phone,

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 3>take down your info, and then turn around and send

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 3>it off to the fire department or the police department

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 3>or you know, the paramedics or something like that. You know,

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 3>they'd be like, okay, I gotta go all right, I'll

0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.160
<v Speaker 3>see you buy right, and then they would get off

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 3>the phone.

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 2>And that evolved to the call center.

0:30:06.160 --> 0:30:08.880
<v Speaker 1>That evolved to what was called enhanced nine to one one,

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>which was in the nineteen seventies, again driven by Telecom

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 1>advancing with AT and T with new technologies, they developed

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 1>ANI and ALI Automatic Number Identification and Location Identification.

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:27.800
<v Speaker 2>ANI is just caller ID. That's what everybody calls caller ID. Yeah.

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:30.719
<v Speaker 2>Remember those cute little boxes that you could plug your

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>phone line into and on your little table.

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 3>Show you in some little terrible readout. Yeah, basically dot

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 3>matrix readout.

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Yep, who was calling? Pretty neat and then it was

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 1>on your handheld cordless phone. Right, you could look at

0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>it and that was like, whoa, we're living in the future,

0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:51.440
<v Speaker 1>rich or the answering machine now is digital. We don't

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 1>need those tiny tapes.

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's true.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.200
<v Speaker 1>That was like a big revolution too. That was huge,

0:30:56.400 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 1>amazing because.

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>You could leave as long a message as you wanted.

0:30:59.440 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Now, Yeah, but you couldn't get that clever nobody's home.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's home.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.480
<v Speaker 1>Sure, you're still recording your outgoing message, right, you could

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:10.480
<v Speaker 1>sing it, but they actually had that tape you could

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:11.600
<v Speaker 1>buy that you could put it.

0:31:11.640 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Really.

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was one that was like a whole mixtape of.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>Them of just like gag answers. Oh boy, you don't

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 1>remember that, not really.

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.680
<v Speaker 2>There was a very famous ad that.

0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Were in It was like delight your friends basically yeah, wow, yeah,

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 1>it's pretty funny.

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.800
<v Speaker 3>So this enhancenime on one system, the automatic number and

0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 3>the automatic locator. That was a big deal because now

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden, if you were a call taker

0:31:40.880 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 3>for a nine to one one and a call came

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.960
<v Speaker 3>up on your little computer screen, it said what the

0:31:46.040 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 3>number was and what the address was, and because everybody

0:31:49.520 --> 0:31:53.640
<v Speaker 3>was calling from landlines, you knew exactly where that person

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:54.680
<v Speaker 3>was who needed help.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.720
<v Speaker 2>That's right. It saved a bunch of time. It was

0:31:56.760 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>a very huge life saving measure.

0:31:58.840 --> 0:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when you think about people in an emergency,

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>could be everything from crippling fear keeping you from even

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>knowing where you are, to having been hit on the

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 1>head and not being able to.

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Say where you are yeah you just can't speak.

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so that really imagine that they spend a

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 1>lot of time sometimes just trying to get through that

0:32:18.960 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>first step of where are you right?

0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 3>So this was an enormous leap forward in the seventies

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:27.680
<v Speaker 3>and eighties. It really kind of cemented how helpful in

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.840
<v Speaker 3>life saving, this nine to one one system could be.

0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 3>And then cell phones came along and the rest of

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:36.840
<v Speaker 3>us kind of leap frogged right over nine one one

0:32:37.280 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 3>because the cell phone carriers didn't.

0:32:39.280 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>Have ANI and ALI.

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 3>When you call nine one one still to this day

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:48.040
<v Speaker 3>from a cell phone, it does not come up what

0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:52.360
<v Speaker 3>your number is or where you are in any specific way.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:32:57.240
<v Speaker 3>And so Congress or at least the FCC said, hey,

0:32:57.560 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 3>we need you guys to do something like there's got

0:32:59.920 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 3>to be something that you just can't be like, you know,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 3>you have no idea where this person is in the country. Yeah,

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 3>because part of the other thing about the automatic locator

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 3>that they had originally with nine one one in the

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 3>seventies and eighties is it would route you to the

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>closest public safety answering point, right, So that would be

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:21.960
<v Speaker 3>saving time too, because the person you're talking to is

0:33:21.960 --> 0:33:24.440
<v Speaker 3>in the same area as you and knows the area

0:33:24.520 --> 0:33:27.360
<v Speaker 3>you're talking about and can more quickly dispatch people.

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Right, cell phones, it's not the case.

0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And Dave makes a good point. Even if they

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 1>could have located like where your cell phone plan was

0:33:35.560 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 1>or your phone was activated, you don't have to live

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in the city where that is right. You have friends

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:43.640
<v Speaker 1>that have LA numbers that work in the film industry

0:33:43.680 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>here just because that stupid LA three one hour three

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.040
<v Speaker 1>two three makes them look like a more legitimate higher

0:33:50.160 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 1>just so cool.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool and so dumb.

0:33:52.880 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 1>Right, But yeah, they would be like, you're in Atlanta,

0:33:56.520 --> 0:33:57.760
<v Speaker 1>says you're in Los Angeles.

0:33:57.960 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Is this a prank? Are you swatting me? Yeah?

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:04.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So so the FCC said, Okay, you guys need

0:34:04.160 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 3>to do something. So what they did was they came

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 3>up with a triangulation where the closest cell phone towers

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 3>address comes up when you call.

0:34:14.680 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a good start, it is a good start.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 3>But if you're out in the sticks, the closest cell

0:34:20.160 --> 0:34:22.839
<v Speaker 3>phone tower might be miles and miles and miles away.

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.279
<v Speaker 3>And even if it's not miles away, let's say it's

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:27.920
<v Speaker 3>a football field away. Well, if you're in a dense,

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:30.840
<v Speaker 3>densely populated area.

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>And you're bleeding out, sure it doesn't help.

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:33.399
<v Speaker 2>It does not help at all.

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 3>But it gets you a little bit closer, and it

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 3>helps to transfer your caller, to route your call to

0:34:38.040 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 3>the closest peace app Yeah, okay, And then the other

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>thing that they have them do now. Phase two of

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 3>this enhanced wireless enhanced nine one one is it gives

0:34:48.719 --> 0:34:53.359
<v Speaker 3>your GPS coordinates, right, which is so nineties It's ridiculous.

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.640
<v Speaker 2>It is. And it's like map quest.

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Any when he's ever waited on a ride share that

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:01.239
<v Speaker 1>thought you were down the street from where you were

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.279
<v Speaker 1>knows how accurate that GPS can be.

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Well, still, it's still great, But that's way more accurate

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 3>than what nine one one's working with.

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, they're just working with longitude and latitude points, right.

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 3>One of the big one of the big qualities. A

0:35:16.280 --> 0:35:19.320
<v Speaker 3>quality to have as a nine to one one operator

0:35:20.080 --> 0:35:23.640
<v Speaker 3>is to be able to quickly translate longitude and latitude

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 3>coordinates GPS coordinates into like Google Maps to get an

0:35:26.719 --> 0:35:27.680
<v Speaker 3>address really.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Fast into smooth sexy voice.

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:33.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure, like very White with fingers of fury, or like

0:35:33.480 --> 0:35:36.480
<v Speaker 3>halle Berry with Barry White's fingers.

0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.960
<v Speaker 1>She did you see that movie The Call? No, She

0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:45.160
<v Speaker 1>played a nine to one to one call specialist in

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:46.240
<v Speaker 1>a movie, a thriller.

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>It was good?

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Was it great?

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:48.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:49.319
<v Speaker 1>It was good.

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay that Brad.

0:35:50.400 --> 0:35:52.640
<v Speaker 1>Anderson directed it. He's like a really quality director.

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know that name, And it seemed like.

0:35:54.760 --> 0:35:58.279
<v Speaker 1>This sort of from what what you're gonna call me

0:35:58.280 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 1>out on that? I didn't hear you from what?

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 2>From where?

0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:02.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't get what you mean from where? Like what other?

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:08.560
<v Speaker 1>What other movies is he directed? He directed a scary

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>movie called Session nine.

0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:12.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, okay, well then this guy is one of

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 3>my favorites of all time.

0:36:13.560 --> 0:36:15.760
<v Speaker 2>That movie, that's what. It's one of the best horror

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:16.520
<v Speaker 2>movies ever made.

0:36:16.640 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a fan of Brad Anderson because he has

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 1>a range of genres. Like one of his early movies

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 1>is this kind of spacey rom com called Happy Accidents.

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:27.760
<v Speaker 2>That was great.

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Happy Accident, Yeah, really good with Mercytome and Vincent Dinafrio.

0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.799
<v Speaker 1>But it had This was a rom com with a

0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of a a.

0:36:38.040 --> 0:36:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Bit of a sci fi twist to it.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, And he did Trans Siberian He's he's done.

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 1>He did Next Stop. Wonderland was one of his first

0:36:44.840 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>little indies.

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, he does.

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 1>It's unusual for a director to tackle all these weird

0:36:50.520 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 1>or different genres. It's neat disparate genres.

0:36:53.080 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 2>Well you have me at Session nine. Yeah.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:57.680
<v Speaker 1>The Call Is is a good, you know, popcorn movie.

0:36:57.719 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 1>I highly recommend it.

0:36:58.640 --> 0:36:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll check it out.

0:37:00.040 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Barry's a call center person and that's all I'll say.

0:37:02.320 --> 0:37:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Hey, she's quality, quality actress. She is.

0:37:04.800 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 3>But the fact that I had never even heard of

0:37:06.840 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 3>this movie really made me suspicious.

0:37:08.920 --> 0:37:11.960
<v Speaker 1>It did pretty well. Okay, it wasn't a massive hit,

0:37:12.040 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>but it did like sixty million bucks.

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>But that's really surprising. Like I'm very aware of movies,

0:37:18.760 --> 0:37:20.960
<v Speaker 2>like I'll know what the movie's about, and I have

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>never seen it now, even seen a preview. I'll just

0:37:23.120 --> 0:37:28.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of know. Sure, So I'm surprised. Yeah, okay, I

0:37:28.080 --> 0:37:29.279
<v Speaker 2>recommend it. I'll check it out.

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's no Black Coat's Daughter, but that's

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:37.600
<v Speaker 1>a good one too. So where are we now? We

0:37:37.719 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>are now at texting to nine one one.

0:37:40.680 --> 0:37:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, hold on, I wanted to drive this home

0:37:42.360 --> 0:37:44.239
<v Speaker 2>real quick. Okay, okay, drive it home.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>The nineteen ninety six FCC rule that says you have

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:52.359
<v Speaker 3>to have a cell phone tower, tell nine one one

0:37:53.080 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 3>it's address, the closest one to your cell phone, and

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:00.319
<v Speaker 3>then give the GPS coordinates. Yeah, for wherever that cell

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:04.080
<v Speaker 3>phone they think the cell phone is. That's the nine

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 3>to one one system that's in place nationwide today.

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>In twenty twenty.

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:10.680
<v Speaker 1>That's why they ask you from a cell phone, who

0:38:10.760 --> 0:38:12.440
<v Speaker 1>are you and where are you, just like they did

0:38:12.480 --> 0:38:13.240
<v Speaker 1>in the early days.

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Right, And this is a problem because, like you said earlier,

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>eighty percent of nine one one calls in the United

0:38:18.520 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 3>States are made from cell phones, and nine one one

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.239
<v Speaker 3>does not know where you are unless you tell them.

0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's also balanced out by the fact that

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>they want to help. Well, you have that cell phone

0:38:31.960 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 1>right there and immediately, so yeah, yeah, that's remember the

0:38:35.200 --> 0:38:36.919
<v Speaker 1>old days. You're like, let me find a pay phone,

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>let me go knock on someone's door and be and

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>ask about their oak tree, and hopefully I won't get shot.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:45.600
<v Speaker 1>So people are calling right away, So I would think

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>that kind of counterbalances the clumsiness.

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.839
<v Speaker 3>Yes, of location. I think you're right, Chuck, we'll see. Well,

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 3>you're really swooped in there, I say.

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 2>We'll see as if there's some report coming out.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 3>The thing is, though, is people have figured out the people,

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the powers that be who are concerned with nine one

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.760
<v Speaker 3>one in its system are well aware of this major flaw.

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and our work have figured.

0:39:08.960 --> 0:39:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Out how to update it. It's just now we're in

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:13.440
<v Speaker 3>the process of rolling out updates.

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, and then privacy advocates are going to be like,

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 1>what you're going to like locate every single person with

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the cell phone and know where they are at all times?

0:39:21.920 --> 0:39:22.200
<v Speaker 2>Right?

0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:25.759
<v Speaker 3>And Amazon and Apple are like, dude, we already know that.

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 3>It's just nine one one is the only one who

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 3>doesn't know where you are at all.

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Times, yes, which is a problem. It's funny.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 3>I saw a Wired article from nineteen ninety eight that

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 3>was like wringing its hands, like, oh, you know, privacy

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 3>advocates are worried that they may be able to track

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.960
<v Speaker 3>the movement of cell phone users based on this information

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 3>that nine one one Now, yeah, they're like, maybe I

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 3>don't know.

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have to see to the future holds. Yeah,

0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:54.399
<v Speaker 1>so texting the nine one one is the latest technology

0:39:55.239 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 1>about ten years ago, eleven years ago in Iowa and Blackhawk,

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:03.320
<v Speaker 1>they were the first jurisdiction to offer this service. And

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 1>it's still kind of coming out. I think a couple

0:40:08.200 --> 0:40:13.040
<v Speaker 1>of years ago they all fifty states had text capability.

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>But it's not everywhere in each state.

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, in par it's just text. I love Day

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>points out you can't send emojis. I need help emoji,

0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>but you can't send text and video and that kind

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 1>of thing would be super helpful, I think.

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Right, So this is where we are in the next generation.

0:40:34.719 --> 0:40:38.359
<v Speaker 3>It's literally called next generation nine one one nine one one,

0:40:39.040 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 3>and it's where nine one one finally catches up to

0:40:43.040 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 3>every other telecom company, yeah, and device manufacturer already is.

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 3>And it basically uses all the information from the Internet

0:40:53.719 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 3>of Things that lets people know exactly where you are,

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 3>not just like what you're at, says what floor of

0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 3>a building you happen to be sitting on right now.

0:41:04.480 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>All of that information is now going to be funneled

0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:08.840
<v Speaker 3>to nine one one when you call, because nine on

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 3>one is finally abandoning land lines landline Telecom, that's what

0:41:13.680 --> 0:41:17.640
<v Speaker 3>they're dealing with currently. They're going over to VoIP, so

0:41:17.760 --> 0:41:20.160
<v Speaker 3>nine to one will be using a secure Internet connection

0:41:20.280 --> 0:41:23.200
<v Speaker 3>in the near future, and when they get to that point,

0:41:24.040 --> 0:41:28.839
<v Speaker 3>they will be able to accept video photos like this

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:31.640
<v Speaker 3>is the guy that's that's attacking the lady, hurry up,

0:41:31.680 --> 0:41:33.759
<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing. And then they'll also be able

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:37.880
<v Speaker 3>to because they're setting up a separate wireless broadband network

0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 3>just for first responders called first net.

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's going to be a big deal.

0:41:41.520 --> 0:41:43.359
<v Speaker 3>And so nine one one will be able to say, hey,

0:41:43.360 --> 0:41:46.400
<v Speaker 3>here's a photo of the guy that you're looking for.

0:41:47.640 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 3>They can't do that now, is mind boggling as it is,

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 3>They cannot do that.

0:41:52.120 --> 0:41:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, just to have a dedicated wireless network

0:41:55.239 --> 0:42:00.200
<v Speaker 1>cuts down on I imagine interference and potential hacking.

0:42:00.320 --> 0:42:03.320
<v Speaker 3>Plus in a disaster, if you're out there in the field,

0:42:03.840 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 3>you are using your own wireless device that's on the

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 3>public broadband right now. And so if the public broadband

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 3>goes down because there's so many people trying to use

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 3>it to find out what's going on in like an

0:42:13.960 --> 0:42:17.239
<v Speaker 3>earthquake or something like, the first responders suffer.

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 2>From that too.

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.320
<v Speaker 3>So this separate broadband network just for first responders won't

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 3>crash in the event of a disaster.

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And speaking of first responders, I think it's kind

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of time we join certain people in saying call center

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.839
<v Speaker 1>employees are first responders.

0:42:35.440 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Are people saying they're not well.

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're generally thought of as first responders

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:41.400
<v Speaker 1>if you work at a call center.

0:42:41.160 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Because they just sit around maybe.

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.880
<v Speaker 1>But they are literally the first and most important first

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 1>thing that happens in an emergency. And like you said, earlier.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:56.200
<v Speaker 1>They are trained to and walk people through CPR, Heimlich,

0:42:57.000 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>how to deliver a baby, how to handle an active shooter, suicide,

0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>domestic abuse, if you're a kid and you're scared because

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:08.839
<v Speaker 1>grandma fell over, like how to handle children. Like they're

0:43:08.880 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>really skilled, And I think it's a shame that, Like

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the only time you hear about nine

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:19.640
<v Speaker 1>to one one call center responders is when there's a

0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:23.960
<v Speaker 1>bad one and you release those calls and everyone's horrified. Yeah,

0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, and it is, it's awful. But those are

0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:30.280
<v Speaker 1>clearly like the standouts, I guess, not standouts.

0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>The standouts are all the good employees. There have been

0:43:32.680 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 2>some doozies, for sure. Yeah. I read about one where

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:42.440
<v Speaker 2>somebody called in of wildfire in Oregon, Oregon, sorry Oregon,

0:43:43.680 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and the nine one one operator said, what you're seeing

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.160
<v Speaker 2>is probably just the play of light on sunlight on

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 2>the fog.

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:52.120
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.560
<v Speaker 3>It was like, how would you even know that you're

0:43:54.600 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 3>in a call center, I'm looking right at this thing.

0:43:56.600 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 3>It's a wildfire, and like they didn't dispatch anybody. Yeah,

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 3>and like a half hour twenty minutes later, somebody else

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 3>called it in, and by this time it was like raging.

0:44:07.320 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>There was the one lady drowning in her car too.

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:10.280
<v Speaker 1>That one was horrific.

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:11.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't hear about that one.

0:44:11.480 --> 0:44:13.439
<v Speaker 1>She was in her car that was going down and

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I think I don't remember exactly what happened, but she

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:19.400
<v Speaker 1>was freaking out. Yeah, And I think the nine one

0:44:19.520 --> 0:44:23.440
<v Speaker 1>one person was just sort of dismissive and it was

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>really and kind of rude even. But you know that

0:44:26.400 --> 0:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>makes the news, not the six hundred and fifty thousand

0:44:30.000 --> 0:44:33.800
<v Speaker 1>calls a day that go through and our lives are saved.

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Like, no, no, absolutely, it's absolutely true. It's a great point.

0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.760
<v Speaker 3>There are plenty of stories of people like of them

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 3>just like straight up.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:45.240
<v Speaker 2>Doing hero stuff. Yeah, going above and beyond.

0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 1>You should see halle Berry in this movie.

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that can happen is as hard,

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.240
<v Speaker 3>as much as you're trained to not let it happen,

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 3>you can become emotionally invested in a call totally. And

0:45:00.960 --> 0:45:04.560
<v Speaker 3>I've read that some operators are just fine leaving it

0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:06.319
<v Speaker 3>at the door, at least appearing to leave it at

0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:11.239
<v Speaker 3>the door, but others can suffer burnout PTSD. And one

0:45:11.280 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 3>of the big things that I saw that's a huge

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 3>psychological problem for nine one one operators is that there

0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.880
<v Speaker 3>can very frequently be no resolution. They can be on

0:45:22.960 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>the phone with somebody who is like holding someone hostage

0:45:26.320 --> 0:45:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and they're trying to talk them down, and all of

0:45:28.520 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 3>a sudden, the cops come in and the line goes dead.

0:45:30.760 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 3>They if they're not good friends with the cops who

0:45:33.120 --> 0:45:37.279
<v Speaker 3>came in, they may never find out what happened, Like

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 3>no idea. They're talking someone through who's been shot or

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.120
<v Speaker 3>whatever to try to keep them alive and conscious. They

0:45:44.160 --> 0:45:45.759
<v Speaker 3>have no idea what happened to that person. They have

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.520
<v Speaker 3>to take the next call, and that's a huge problem.

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>There's no closure.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>And then sometimes there is closure, Like if you're a

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.319
<v Speaker 3>nine one one operator, you probably have been on the

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 3>phone with somebody when they took their last breath, when

0:45:57.640 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 3>they were murdered, when they died, very very scared. That

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of stuff takes its toll on people, and that's

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:04.839
<v Speaker 3>a bit. It could be a big problem, and there

0:46:04.840 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 3>can be pretty frequent turnover among nine to one one dispatchers.

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<v Speaker 2>It's halle Berry movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm telling you, it's all there. Yeah, Because

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:16.839
<v Speaker 1>even if they don't get closure on the work site,

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:19.640
<v Speaker 1>they could see it on the news that night, be like, man,

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I took that call of this murder, yeah or whatever?

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:28.040
<v Speaker 2>Pretty bad. Sure, not a job for me. I don't

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 2>think I could hack it either.

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.520
<v Speaker 3>And then practically speaking, there's like you have to be

0:46:32.560 --> 0:46:35.480
<v Speaker 3>able to type really really fast with a high level

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:39.520
<v Speaker 3>of accuracy while somebody's telling you other information. Yeah, like

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 3>you might be taking info in and you have to

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.120
<v Speaker 3>be chatting with you know, a cop on I am

0:46:45.480 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 3>who you're sending out while you're also taking the description

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:50.040
<v Speaker 3>from the other person who's just going back and forth.

0:46:50.120 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you got to be able to compartmentalize and multitask.

0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 1>All none of those things are my specialty.

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Though.

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:59.080
<v Speaker 1>If you're wondering you pay for nine to one one

0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.920
<v Speaker 1>if you have a phone bill, cell phone bills included,

0:47:03.480 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 1>it's a little search charge there. So that's outrageous to

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 1>scream socialism everybody. And as far as those statistics we

0:47:12.640 --> 0:47:16.560
<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier about the racial bias, of course, if

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 1>you were a fan of Public Enemy, you remember the

0:47:18.440 --> 0:47:20.399
<v Speaker 1>great great song nine to one one is a joke

0:47:21.280 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 1>flavor flame. There was a study done by the ACLU

0:47:24.920 --> 0:47:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in twenty thirteen residents of a Grand Crossing this is Chicago.

0:47:30.080 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Study African American neighborhood on the South Side waited eleven

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>minutes for a cop to come after a priority call,

0:47:39.080 --> 0:47:42.440
<v Speaker 1>two and a half minutes for the predominantly white neighborhood

0:47:42.440 --> 0:47:47.200
<v Speaker 1>of Jefferson Park. In response times in that were four

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half times slower in the black community. And

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.880
<v Speaker 1>there's you know, like I mentioned earlier, with the people

0:47:54.960 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>calling nine one one on you know, just an African

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 1>American person living their life. There have been cases where

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.640
<v Speaker 1>people ended up dead because of that after escalation, and

0:48:05.680 --> 0:48:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that's just like a pure tragedy for sure.

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.240
<v Speaker 3>There is a there are like when you have something

0:48:14.280 --> 0:48:17.160
<v Speaker 3>this massive and huge and it's involves people at like

0:48:17.200 --> 0:48:21.000
<v Speaker 3>their worst moment of their life, a lot of stuff

0:48:21.080 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>is going to kind of come out of it. There's

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot to nine to one, a lot of legends

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and myths and everything. But one of the things I

0:48:27.160 --> 0:48:31.080
<v Speaker 3>saw that everyone seems to know about is that if

0:48:31.120 --> 0:48:34.440
<v Speaker 3>you call nine one one and pretend you're ordering a pizza,

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 3>they will understand that you are in a position where

0:48:37.480 --> 0:48:40.960
<v Speaker 3>you can't talk, and they'll dispatch the police. Supposedly that's

0:48:40.960 --> 0:48:43.960
<v Speaker 3>a myth, but it makes total sense. Doesn't you've heard

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:44.360
<v Speaker 3>that before.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I was just just thinking of Diehard. Oh, I don't

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 2>remember that.

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:49.759
<v Speaker 1>There was that line where he's calling the nine one

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 1>one dispatcher. Huh, well, I guess I don't even think

0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 1>it was. I think it was an actual cop on

0:48:54.560 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 1>the other end, and she's like, calm downs her and

0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's not an emergency, and he said.

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:02.319
<v Speaker 2>What do you think I'm doing ordering a pizza? Oh?

0:49:02.400 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's right, And that might have been a reference

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:04.759
<v Speaker 1>to that.

0:49:05.080 --> 0:49:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, So so what are you saying again?

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 3>The urban legend is that if you like, let's say

0:49:10.400 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 3>there's there's somebody who's got a gun on you, if

0:49:13.520 --> 0:49:15.759
<v Speaker 3>you can somehow get it to the point where you're like, hey,

0:49:15.840 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 3>let's order a pizza right now, you can call nine

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:20.879
<v Speaker 3>one one say hey, I'd like to order a pizza. Code,

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:24.239
<v Speaker 3>there's my address, and then yeah, and that nine one

0:49:24.320 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 3>one will get what's going on and send the cops out.

0:49:26.239 --> 0:49:29.560
<v Speaker 3>Apparently that's not true, but there there is.

0:49:29.800 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 2>There's another. There was an urban legend I.

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:36.239
<v Speaker 3>Saw in the UK with nine nine nine that if

0:49:36.280 --> 0:49:41.879
<v Speaker 3>you call and you don't say anything, that they will

0:49:41.920 --> 0:49:44.400
<v Speaker 3>send someone out. And I think that is kind of

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:48.480
<v Speaker 3>widely believed over here in the US too. Apparently in

0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 3>the UK that is true. But it's going to send

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.640
<v Speaker 3>you through a series of prompts if you don't respond,

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.600
<v Speaker 3>and if you press five to five, it will you

0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:02.600
<v Speaker 3>will be confirming that yes, you there's an emergency and

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:04.359
<v Speaker 3>you just can't talk right now, and they will send

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.839
<v Speaker 3>people out. If you don't press five to five, then

0:50:06.880 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 3>they won't. It'll just take it as like an accidental call.

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's the big benefit.

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't even think we kind of brought up about

0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:18.000
<v Speaker 1>texting to nine to one one because you might think like, ugh,

0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.200
<v Speaker 1>because because people want.

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:20.240
<v Speaker 2>To text millennials.

0:50:20.280 --> 0:50:22.759
<v Speaker 1>But there are plenty of cases where you can't talk.

0:50:23.440 --> 0:50:27.000
<v Speaker 1>You're maybe in a domestic dispute.

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Or if you're hearing you're in.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>A closet, or if you're hearing impaired, or if you've

0:50:30.800 --> 0:50:33.359
<v Speaker 1>been kidnapped and don't want to use your voice out loud,

0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.200
<v Speaker 1>or you're a scared child, like, plenty of great cases

0:50:36.280 --> 0:50:37.280
<v Speaker 1>to be made for texting.

0:50:37.640 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>And since text to nine one one isn't everywhere, the

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.120
<v Speaker 3>SEC has a law that if your telecom carrier doesn't

0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 3>doesn't have text nine one one, they have an immediate

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 3>bounce back that says like you can't do that.

0:50:51.320 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 2>You have to call nine one one, Yeah, which is

0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 2>that's pretty valuable. It is.

0:50:54.480 --> 0:50:57.120
<v Speaker 3>And one last thing, if you find an old phone

0:50:57.120 --> 0:50:59.280
<v Speaker 3>that has a charge in it, even if it hasn't

0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:03.279
<v Speaker 3>had served us for twenty years, you can dial nine

0:51:03.280 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 3>on one you will be connected.

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is pretty cool.

0:51:05.640 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 3>Every single phone that is that is in operation dials

0:51:09.040 --> 0:51:10.000
<v Speaker 3>nine one one for free.

0:51:10.160 --> 0:51:13.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I like that. I do too, man, I love

0:51:13.280 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>nine to one one.

0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:17.040
<v Speaker 3>I think Kirvanni gets said there's no uh, no greater

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 3>display of humanity than seeing a fire truck go down

0:51:20.640 --> 0:51:24.640
<v Speaker 3>the street with its sirens blazing. Oh really, it sounds

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:25.880
<v Speaker 3>like something means interesting.

0:51:26.560 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:51:27.080 --> 0:51:29.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, if you want to know more about Kirvannaget, you

0:51:29.480 --> 0:51:31.840
<v Speaker 3>can just type that into the search bar. How stuff

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:33.680
<v Speaker 3>works and who knows what that will bring up?

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 2>Who knows? Uh? And since I said that, it's time

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>for a listener. Man.

0:51:39.719 --> 0:51:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Uh. This is a response when we ask for examples

0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:46.200
<v Speaker 1>of racism in today's military, and we heard from a

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:47.080
<v Speaker 1>range of people.

0:51:47.360 --> 0:51:49.680
<v Speaker 2>I have to say, from.

0:51:49.480 --> 0:51:52.560
<v Speaker 1>This guy who the other guy to the other guy,

0:51:53.040 --> 0:51:55.080
<v Speaker 1>this guy said, I'll just tell you what this guy

0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:57.839
<v Speaker 1>said a minute. But other people have said that, yeah,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.000
<v Speaker 1>they've seen some pretty bad racist stuff in the military,

0:52:00.440 --> 0:52:03.239
<v Speaker 1>but they're isolated incidences, just like in the real world.

0:52:04.040 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 1>But this is what Matthew Epplewhite says. Start off, I'm

0:52:08.160 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 1>a white guy. I can't speak on everyone's experience while

0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.399
<v Speaker 1>in the service, but during my four years I saw

0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.799
<v Speaker 1>more camaraderie between the mix of races than I ever

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:17.120
<v Speaker 1>see in my real life.

0:52:17.239 --> 0:52:19.200
<v Speaker 2>It seems like this is the response that we got

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:19.720
<v Speaker 2>the most.

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:20.000
<v Speaker 1>The most.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're right, they thought us.

0:52:23.080 --> 0:52:24.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they taught us from the start in boot camp

0:52:25.239 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 1>Marine Corps that you're all nothing and you will all

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.279
<v Speaker 1>become Marines, and with that in common, it gives a

0:52:31.320 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 1>common ground between any race or nationality. They might often

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:39.279
<v Speaker 1>refer to African American Marines as dark green, implying yes,

0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:41.720
<v Speaker 1>they may have a different skin tone, but they're still green.

0:52:42.200 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>And over the years, in and out of training, you

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:47.320
<v Speaker 1>learn that everyone endures the suck and the hard times

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:50.319
<v Speaker 1>together and no one is above another. In the end,

0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:53.279
<v Speaker 1>you learn to trust the man to my left and

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:56.280
<v Speaker 1>right with my life, no matter what his skin color.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:53:01.480
<v Speaker 2>And ladies too. They're female Marines sure, I'm glad you

0:53:01.520 --> 0:53:02.400
<v Speaker 2>said that. Yeah.

0:53:02.560 --> 0:53:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Now, saying all this, some prejudice from other people's upbringing

0:53:06.280 --> 0:53:08.600
<v Speaker 1>do still remain, but most of the time it is

0:53:08.600 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>shot down very fast with harsh repercussions, and it has

0:53:12.120 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>kept to a minimum. I made many friends from all

0:53:14.520 --> 0:53:17.560
<v Speaker 1>walks of life that I would have never even imagined being.

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:17.960
<v Speaker 2>So close to.

0:53:18.040 --> 0:53:20.239
<v Speaker 1>Without the common ground we stood on are the hard

0:53:20.239 --> 0:53:22.640
<v Speaker 1>times that we endure together. And that is from an

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.759
<v Speaker 1>avid listener named Matthew Applewhite.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks a lot, Matthew, We appreciate you letting us know.

0:53:27.640 --> 0:53:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Thanks to everybody who wrote in to let us know

0:53:30.239 --> 0:53:31.319
<v Speaker 3>virtually the same thing.

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, except for the couple of standouts. Yeah.

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