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Speaker 2: I am good. You know, tay was a little different

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Speaker 2: morning for me. I woke up and I had to

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Speaker 2: go to traditional websites to get my news because my

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Speaker 2: old school morning. Woke up, checked a couple websites, see

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Speaker 1: I know you're always ready to go, you know what,

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Speaker 1: with your permission, I want to just take attendance right

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Speaker 1: now and just everybody say yes, present Ethan Miller, our

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Speaker 1: executive producer. Are you here today? I assume he is.

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Speaker 1: Send an email, nuts guy, Yeah, Mark Ramsey, the man

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Speaker 1: who runs the show, Mark, you're here, right, I know

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Speaker 1: you're here present. And Kevin Wyant I just heard his voice.

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Speaker 1: He's here. And why do I say this, Jeff? Because

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Speaker 1: I think I have to be serious for at least

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Speaker 1: what happened with the cuts at ESPN the other day.

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Speaker 1: Thank god, our guys are here, and it's just a shame.

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Speaker 1: just a terrible thing.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: They're brothers in our in our business, and it happens,

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Speaker 1: I guess, but the way it happened, it was like

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Speaker 2: You know, it is good. Everyone's here. Yeah, those were

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Speaker 2: those were tough to see on Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's colleagues of ours, right, A lot of people that

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Speaker 2: have been at ESPN. I mean sus A corn the

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Speaker 2: twenty seven years Jeff van Gundy I think does an

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Speaker 2: excellent job. You know, the reminders always there that you know,

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Speaker 2: there's you know, in life, not a lot of loyalty

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Speaker 2: that life. In the NFL, you're only as good as

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Speaker 2: I just thought that, and this is not really ESPN's

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Speaker 2: again that's not all ESPN's fault because again agents and

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio or I work for Fox Sports as well.

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Speaker 2: She did not come to Charlotte. She came to Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: She does on stage three hours straight. It's unreal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So she gives her fans what they want, which

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Speaker 1: Well I didn't go, but I did see the video

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Speaker 1: You play football and also you like to checkle a

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Speaker 2: All right? If the NFL has a pall see of

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Speaker 2: You'd be totally fine with that being a rule. But

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Speaker 2: the facility, he's not been there for a month. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 2: you shouldn't do that. That's illegal. Take take your penalty.

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Speaker 2: But you know there's no integrity issues there, right Isaia

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Speaker 2: Rogers bet on his teammate. He bet on his teammate

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Speaker 2: on a prop bet for a thousand dollars. Guy makes

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Speaker 2: it five hundred grand. What are you doing for one

435
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Speaker 2: thousand dollars? You've lost your career. And to me, it's

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Speaker 2: a very simple thing. Don't wager on NFL games if

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Speaker 2: you're But there's.

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Speaker 1: A couple of loopholes in these rules. Number one, obviously,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Don't bet on the NFL because the

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Speaker 1: integrity factor. Don't gamble to your team facility. I get that,

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Speaker 1: traveling for a road game with staying at a team hotel.

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Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Don't have someone bet for you. How

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Speaker 1: do you monitor that?

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Speaker 2: Don't. You You can't, but you guess what. You couldn't

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Speaker 2: monitor that seven years ago. Either if I wanted to

446
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Speaker 2: place a bet through a bookie when I played, I

447
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Speaker 2: could have done that. You can't, and you can't regular everything.

448
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Speaker 2: You can do your job to regulate what you can,

449
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Speaker 2: and you teach the players about about getting the the

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Speaker 2: the gambling policy. You have people come in and we

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Speaker 2: had people. I guess not as much now, but there

452
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Speaker 2: will be more people that that that you mean, there'll

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Speaker 2: be more people that come in now and talk about

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Speaker 2: the risks of wagering. Right, I'm sure they have people

455
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Speaker 2: come in and talk about about how much money they've

456
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Speaker 2: lost in sports wagering. But you, as a player, the

457
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Speaker 2: rule is you just can't wager on the NFL, and

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Speaker 2: then you can't wager other sports.

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Speaker 1: You can't play daily fantasy football either. You can't even

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Speaker 1: go into a sports.

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Speaker 2: You can play fantasy football if the prize is under

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars for the league. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: can't go to sports. Look, I get I understand these rules. Man.

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Speaker 2: You don't want the game to appear that is being

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Speaker 2: influenced by outside by outside factors, right, And I get

466
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Speaker 2: as a player like the idea I saw. It was

467
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Speaker 2: Jonathan Jones on the on the Patriots say why can't

468
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Speaker 2: I bet in the NFL? If i'm why can't I

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Speaker 2: bet on my team to win? Dude? There are so

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Speaker 2: many reasons why you can't bet your team to win.

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Speaker 2: First of all, I mean, in the simplest form, it's

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Speaker 2: insider trading, right because you will know the injury status

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Speaker 2: of players that are questionable, that are doubtful before anyone

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Speaker 2: else will know. Right you're you're in the facility. You know.

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Speaker 2: For example, I'll give you example from this year that

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Speaker 2: a college example, Organ was playing Utah Okay Boenicks. Organ's

477
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Speaker 2: quarterback was hurt the previous game and there was talk

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Speaker 2: that he was not going to play. The line even

479
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Speaker 2: swung from Organ as a favorite to Utah as a favorite.

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Speaker 2: Now I talk to people in the building, They thought

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Speaker 2: Bonis was going to play all week. All right, If

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Speaker 2: you're a player on that team, you're at practice, no

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Speaker 2: one else is at practice. You know what Bonus is

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Speaker 2: playing or not. And if you put a large wager

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Speaker 2: on your team to win, you have inside information right now.

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Speaker 2: That happens in sports wagering, right, people is that stuff

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Speaker 2: gets out. But specifically to that situation, you haven't said

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Speaker 2: if you did that in the stock market, you'd be

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Speaker 2: in jail. Right, you can't insire trading in the stock market.

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Speaker 2: But okay, what happens when the when the the time

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Speaker 2: that me, Jeff Schwartz plug on a team, I bet

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Speaker 2: one thousand dollars per game for my team to win,

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Speaker 2: which is done because I'm already getting paid to it. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: it seems silly to want to wager the money that

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Speaker 2: I'm making in the game on myself to win. What

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Speaker 2: if I lose and then I've lost a game and

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Speaker 2: I've lost money like that? That seems silly to me.

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Speaker 2: Let's say that I bet one thousand dollars per game

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Speaker 2: on my team to win, and then one week I

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Speaker 2: just don't, I don't, I don't wager. Well, the sportsbook's

501
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Speaker 2: gonna go hmmm, does he think they're gonna lose this week?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Right? Or what if I wager ten thousand dollars instead

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Speaker 2: of one thousand dollars? Oh wait, wait, what's happening here? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Is something off? Is something off?

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Speaker 1: That was the argument with Pee Rose. So what we

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Speaker 1: better on his team to win. But some days he

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Speaker 1: didn't bet at all. So obviously people would say, well,

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Speaker 1: if you're not betting on your team to win, you

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Speaker 1: gonna think they're gonna lose.

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Speaker 2: And and the last thing is, and this is a

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Speaker 2: little bit, a little bit you know, dark, but you know,

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Speaker 2: let's say that that you're a player and you bet

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Speaker 2: on your team to win and you've lost two straight games. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you're down the hole. You're down, You're down big money.

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Speaker 2: And here comes the third game. You bet your team

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Speaker 2: again to win the game. Are you going out on

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Speaker 2: the field doing a little bit extra to make sure

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Speaker 2: you win that game? Are are you hitting a player late?

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Speaker 2: Are you cheap shot in someone? Are you trying to

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Speaker 2: injure somebody to make sure that they don't play that

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Speaker 2: game because you need to win back money? Right, I mean,

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Speaker 2: we've all been in the hole at times in life,

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Speaker 2: and you, you know, you try to get out of it.

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Speaker 2: And I think it would lead to those type of

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Speaker 2: actions happening on the football field, which we don't want

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Speaker 2: at all. Right, No one plays the game to injured

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Speaker 2: and injuries happen, absolutely happens. I've been injured a bunch,

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Speaker 2: but nine percent of us don't go out trying to try,

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Speaker 2: trying with the mindset of I'm going to hurt someone

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Speaker 2: this game. I would love to play a game and

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Speaker 2: not hurt anybody, right, But it happens, right you injured guy,

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Speaker 2: It's not No one doesn't on purpose for the most part,

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Speaker 2: boundary gate notwithstanding. But that's the defensive thing, a defensive mindset.

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Speaker 2: So these are all the reasons why just don't gamble

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Speaker 2: on the NFL, Just like you can't drink in the

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Speaker 2: facility because they don't want you to drink that those

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Speaker 2: are the rules. The rule in the NFL is you

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Speaker 2: cannot gamble on the NFL. That feels like a very

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Speaker 2: easy rule to follow. I don't understand why players can't

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Speaker 2: just follow that rule. It's so simple to me, and

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Speaker 2: yet there seems to be this weird pushback on people

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Speaker 2: actually following the rule.

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Speaker 1: One quickie though. I understand what the NFL is doing.

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Speaker 1: They want to protect the shield. I get that every

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Speaker 1: sports should be doing that. They did it in baseball.

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Speaker 1: You're right, I think was a rule twenty one in

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Speaker 1: the clubhouse you can't gamble. Where's the NBA in this?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think those guys are gambling. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't hear a word about NBA guys gambling while

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Speaker 1: being suspended.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's many questions about NBA I mean

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Speaker 2: punishments and whatnot. I mean, it's always surprising to me

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Speaker 2: the NBA has never busted anyone for using performance enhancing drugs,

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Speaker 2: Like never, no one ever, get it's busted for that.

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Speaker 2: Every league has that has guys on pH on PhDs

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Speaker 2: on pds, right, and NFL baseball, uh, boxing like all

558
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Speaker 2: this stuff except somehow basketball has no one ever on

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Speaker 2: performance hanting drugs. Side note on that, Yeah, they could be.

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing about basketball. You know, we talk

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Speaker 2: about how to fix fixing games, right that that's the

562
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Speaker 2: top of that comes up when it comes to the wagers, right,

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Speaker 2: which the reason why.

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Speaker 1: There's guys as opposed to eleven.

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Speaker 2: Well, here's the reason. The reason why basketball games are

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Speaker 2: easier to fix and why they've just been you know,

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Speaker 2: there's not been a football fixing scandal. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: fix football games. Basketball games are easy to fix because

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Speaker 2: you can affect the point total, right, the over under

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Speaker 2: It doesn't look that that much if if you take

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Speaker 2: the under and you've you're fixed the game. You know. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you have two two bad passes, right, you miss

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Speaker 2: a foul shot, you know you have it doesn't look

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Speaker 2: like you're doing that on purpose, right, Right. That's why

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Speaker 2: basketball games a court. I'm not accusing anyone of fixing games.

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Speaker 2: Why there's been more scandal in basketball when it comes

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Speaker 2: to fixing games. Has there been a big football fixing

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Speaker 2: game scheme? No way. Now. Of course, Tim Donnee is

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Speaker 2: a referee. It's easier to affect the point total than

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Speaker 2: as a player by calling less fowls or more fouls.

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Speaker 2: But the reason why is I think this is not

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Speaker 2: happening in the NBA. I don't think. I don't think

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Speaker 2: players are gambling on their own sport. And they make

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Speaker 2: so much money. That's part of it, too, right, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that in just a second. Is it has

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Speaker 2: to juice has to be worth the squeeze, right, which

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Speaker 2: is why Isay Rodgers wagering on thousand dollars to loo

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Speaker 2: basically lose his career is so dumb? You know an

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Speaker 2: NBA players that we saw, I mean, you're a mid

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Speaker 2: level player, Austin Reives're getting fifty six million dollars right.

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Speaker 2: I think it's when he got fifty eight million dollars,

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Speaker 2: who's the best, the third option on the Lakers? Why

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Speaker 2: would you risk a single cent of that betting on basketball? Well, yikes,

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Speaker 2: that's partly why it is not happening. It just doesn't

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Speaker 2: feel like it happens in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Well, he's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. This is Fox's

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Speaker 1: What's Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, coming

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Speaker 1: up next on Fox Sports Sunday Live from the Tireck

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Maybe it's time for him to get signed.

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Speaker 1: But first, Kevin Wyatt with all your sports So sorry

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Speaker 1: a little lady, Kevi Oh no worries. Uh.

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Speaker 4: Lots of going on on Saturday. It's NBA free agency,

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Speaker 4: the beginning of end. Some players are getting paid. That

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Speaker 4: includes Demontes Sopponis, who were reportedly signed a five year

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Speaker 4: deal worth two hundred million dollars in new money, The

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Speaker 4: Hornet's giving LaMelo Ball the rookie maximum extension at a

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Speaker 4: It is a five year deal, the Lakers bringing back d'

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Speaker 4: angelo Russell Austin Reeves. Austin Reeves was a two way

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Speaker 4: player a couple of years ago, meaning he can go

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Speaker 4: back to the G League or play on the NBA

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Speaker 4: roster and from there to getting a four year, fifty

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Speaker 4: six million dollar deal. The Clippers bringing back Russell Westbrook

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Speaker 4: will be a two year contract a year plus a

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Speaker 4: player option. Dylan Brooks four years eighty million dollars for

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Speaker 4: him to go to Houston. He'll join the Rockets, and

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Speaker 4: Milwaukee re signing Brook Lopez on a two forty eight

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Speaker 4: million dollar contract. In Major League Baseball, the Phillies pound

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Speaker 4: the Nationals nineteen to four. The Braves get six runs

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Speaker 4: in the first inning and make it a seven tozering

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Speaker 4: win against Miami for their seventh win in a row.

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Speaker 4: Another team that had a big first inning and wrote

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Speaker 4: to a rin is the Kansas City Royals. They get

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Speaker 4: five in the first inning against the Dodgers and ended

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Speaker 4: up winning it six to four. Mariners beat the Rays

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Speaker 4: eight to three. The Tigers with a home run in

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Speaker 4: the tenth inning. They get a four to two win

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Speaker 4: against the Rockies. The Oakland Athletics won a game. They

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Speaker 4: get a tenth inning run on an error as they

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Speaker 4: beat the White Sox seven to six. Mets and Justin

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Speaker 4: Verlander take down the Giants four to one the Texas Rangers.

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Speaker 4: They've been one of the surprise teams this year. They

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Speaker 4: beat the Astros five to two as Nathan Nelwaune gets

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Speaker 4: his tenth win of the season. It's now a tie

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Speaker 4: at top of the NL Central. The Reds fall to

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Speaker 4: the Padres twelve five, while Milwaukee beats Pittsburgh eleven to eight,

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Speaker 4: So Cincinnati and Milwaukee tied to top of the NL Central.

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Speaker 4: And out West, the Diamondbacks beat the Angels three to one.

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Speaker 4: The Angels only had three hits all game, and they

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Speaker 4: have now lost four games.

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Speaker 1: In a row. Back to you guys, Thanks keV. All right,

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Speaker 1: too much, Russ, Well, that's right around the corner. This

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Speaker 1: eat my Schwartz at about four or five minutes from

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Speaker 1: now here's a story that I thought maybe raised a

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Speaker 1: hair in the back of your neck. Colin Kaepernick back

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Speaker 1: in the news. Former forty nine, a quarterback. Hasn't played

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Speaker 1: in an NFL game since twenty sixteen. Two questions, now,

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Speaker 1: is it time for it to come back? And what

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Speaker 1: makes him think that he could even play now he's

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Speaker 1: thirty five years of age.

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Speaker 2: I think we can acknowledge a few things at the

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Speaker 2: same time. One is that Colin Kaepernick was absolutely blackball

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Speaker 2: from the NFL. He should have been on a roster

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't. And guess what he was paid for that,

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Speaker 2: right he sued the NFL. He got a settlement and

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Speaker 2: he was paid for that. And then we can also

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Speaker 2: acknowledge that that that right now, he needs to stop this.

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Speaker 2: To me, this is this is just about kind of

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Speaker 2: keeping his name in the news because no reasonable person

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Speaker 2: would expect to be playing in the NFL at the

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Speaker 2: age he's at It hasn't played in what six or

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Speaker 2: seven years? Now years those but those things are true.

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Speaker 2: He was definitely a black ball that I said it

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Speaker 2: at the time. I was on his side about all

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Speaker 2: these all things he was he was raising concern about

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Speaker 2: he should have been in the NFL at the minimum

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Speaker 2: of a backup. I didn't I didn't know if he

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Speaker 2: was a starting quarterback, but at the minimum, you know,

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Speaker 2: as a kind of preferred backup. Right, one of those

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Speaker 2: teams that kind of is is can you know, I'm

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Speaker 2: not sure my starter is really good. I'm not sign

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Speaker 2: Colin Kaepernick, right, that's the perfect team for him. But

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Speaker 2: this is this is madness. I mean, you got you

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Speaker 2: gotta stop. I know you're working out, Yes, what a

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Speaker 2: bunch of us work out after we're done and playing? Right?

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Speaker 2: I mean, it is what it is. He's just not

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Speaker 2: gonna play in the NFL anymore. And at this time

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Speaker 2: it doesn't feel like it's just kind of keeping his

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Speaker 2: name out there.

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Speaker 1: But I'll ask you a foolish question, and you could

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Speaker 1: laugh at me if you want to. And I asked

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Speaker 1: the question in all honesty. Really, why on earth do

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Speaker 1: you think he was black boled? Well, people owners were

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Speaker 1: afraid to have him on their squad because of what

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Speaker 1: he did.

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Speaker 2: Why would A couple of things. One is, I think

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Speaker 2: the attention that your team would get is probably might

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Speaker 2: not be worth the production you get from from Colin Kaepernick. Right,

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Speaker 2: you know, the distraction thing is a real thing. NFL

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Speaker 2: teams worry about because what happens is it's not you know,

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Speaker 2: let's say you signed on Kaepernick, every single person on

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Speaker 2: the team is going to be asked about their stance

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Speaker 2: on kneeling right, every person on the team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course a splinding the team for those

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Speaker 1: that don't kneel correct.

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Speaker 2: And I think there was some and there's something. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's some I would say most owners are on the

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Speaker 2: conservative side. You know, some understood what Klon Kaepernick was doing,

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Speaker 2: supported him, some dnt. There were some on the very

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Speaker 2: extreme side of like, we're just never doing this on

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Speaker 2: our team. Like there were some owners that I know

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Speaker 2: said like, we're not doing this as a team. We're

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Speaker 2: just not You're not doing this if you're a player

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Speaker 2: on my team. So there was I think divisiveness with that.

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Speaker 2: And I think that people have tried to find the

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Speaker 2: reasons why Klon Kaepernick as a player should be starting

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFL. I think NFL teams looked at

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Speaker 2: it and said, yeah, he's just not a starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: right now, and do we want our backup quarterback to

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Speaker 2: be the distraction? Like that's the thing as well, your

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Speaker 2: backup quarterback being a distraction is starting quarterback. Fine, I

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Speaker 2: mean at least you're starting quarterback, but a backup quarterback,

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure. The one thing that people this

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Speaker 2: is the one point that the NFL people I have not

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Speaker 2: discussed as much. You know, there was a little bit

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Speaker 2: of if you recall he delayed a surgery then he

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Speaker 2: could have had earlier, so the Niners had to pay him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you if you remember that he

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Speaker 2: was hurt, and then I'm gonna look it up to

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Speaker 2: make sure I have this right he had he had

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Speaker 2: he had basically waited to have a surgery when he

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Speaker 2: could have had it earlier for the Niners to have

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Speaker 2: to pay him, because if you're an injured player, they

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Speaker 2: can't release you without without being paid. I think that

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Speaker 2: rubbed people are the wrong way. And I think all

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Speaker 2: those things are a combination of of why he was

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Speaker 2: black ball but he certainly was. I mean, it's no

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Speaker 2: doubt about it. Another thing too, that it is I

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Speaker 2: always found most curious on the football side of this

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Speaker 2: whole thing, was as a player, you're signed do a

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Speaker 2: certain job, right, so you're signed to be a backup,

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Speaker 2: You're signing to be a you know, fighting for a

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Speaker 2: roster spot. Even so you're you're like, you're signed to

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Speaker 2: be like I'm on the team. Okay, you're signed for

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Speaker 2: I'm fighting for a roster spot. You're signed as like

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Speaker 2: just camp, a camp body. Now you might not notice

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Speaker 2: as a player, but the teams are signing these roles.

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Speaker 2: You know, you're signs as a fighting for a starting spot.

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Speaker 2: You're signed as a starter. Okay. Those are kind of

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Speaker 2: the ranges of where you're signed and as a player,

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Speaker 2: when you get to a certain point of your career,

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Speaker 2: you're only looking for one type of job, right, So

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Speaker 2: when you're calling Kaepernick's age and the success he had

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Speaker 2: had in his career, you're looking for one or two jobs.

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Speaker 2: You're looking for starting quarterback or as I mentioned, kind

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Speaker 2: of like preferred backup, right, like a guy that is

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Speaker 2: a backup quarterback, you're able to come in and really

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Speaker 2: the starter is on thin ice, right, like you might

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Speaker 2: be able to start very quickly in that job. Okay.

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Speaker 2: And so Colin Kaepernick was up for those two jobs,

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Speaker 2: and for two years, anytime someone would sign Joe Schmo signed,

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Speaker 2: you're like, why is Kaepernick not sign I go, They're

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Speaker 2: not for the same job. Joe Schmoe is up for

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Speaker 2: for backup, maybe making the team. Colin Kaeperick's not up

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Speaker 2: for that job. Right, There was a limited amount of

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Speaker 2: jobs that he was actually up for at the time,

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Speaker 2: and he wasn't allowed to get those guys it for

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Speaker 2: the reason I mentioned so, And he got paid for that.

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Speaker 2: Good for him. He see the NFL gouds money absolutely

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Speaker 2: should do you good. Good for him, but he wasn't

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Speaker 2: up for a lot of jobs he was up for that.

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Speaker 2: That's small of like, Okay, I'm a starting quarterback, I'm

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Speaker 2: probably a bad team or I'm a preferred backup. Essentially,

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Speaker 2: I'm so short of the same teams and in those

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Speaker 2: jobs that's all he was up for, were not available

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Speaker 2: to him for those reasons I mentioned.

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Speaker 1: There you go and then you look, you say, just

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Speaker 1: go away because it ain't gonna happen. You're thirty five

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Speaker 1: and no one wants you. And you're right. He was

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Speaker 1: black bulled. Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Hurday. And now it's time for the pro

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Speaker 1: to take center stage. Why eat my Schwartz is next?

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Speaker 1: Eat my Schwartz right around the corner, Yes, it's about

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Speaker 1: nine minutes before the top of the hour. He's Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman. We're live from the Tirack dot Com studios,

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Speaker 1: and Jeff, I got a bundle, I got a bundle

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Speaker 1: of questions. Feed my Schwartz. We may have to push

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Speaker 1: it through for the top of the hour. Are you ready?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Here, we got a little music plays, feed mar Schwartz.

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Speaker 1: All right, there's some talk now in the state of

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. They're gonna want to give former West Virginia

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Speaker 1: basketball coach Bob Huggins only a one year suspension, bring

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Speaker 1: him back next year, and even name the court after him.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree with this?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: What? What?

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Speaker 1: I've read this in the West Virginia media.

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Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't agree with this.

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Speaker 3: What what?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: They love him there. He played there at West Virginia,

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Speaker 1: he coached there for sixteen years. They just love him.

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Speaker 1: They love him to death.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm not on board with this. No.

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Speaker 1: So in other words, he's out, that's it, and they'll

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Speaker 1: probably never coach again.

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Speaker 2: Why yeah, why name the court after him? All of a.

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Speaker 1: Sudden, That's that's the talk in West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes Andy, there's a push no matter

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Speaker 2: what the situation, to be a contrarian right, just to

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Speaker 2: push back on authority, no matter what situation is. This

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Speaker 2: feels like a little bit of that right here, right

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Speaker 2: where like people are just trying to push back on

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Speaker 2: authority for some odd reasons. Even though he was drunk

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Speaker 2: and did drunk drive, which is very dangerous as we know, and.

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Speaker 1: That was the second time he did it in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Well, it just feels like this is just people trying

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Speaker 2: to push back on the man who punished Puggins for

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Speaker 2: his DUI. It's what it feels like to me.

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Speaker 1: All right. Your biggest surprise as we approached the midway

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Speaker 1: mark in Major League Baseball.

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Speaker 2: Diamondbacks they had a their win total this year was

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Speaker 2: seventy four. I think I know because someone told me

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Speaker 2: to bet their their win total under I mean, it

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Speaker 2: has to be them, right. They're fifty and thirty four

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Speaker 2: right now, which is pretty impressive. Also, the Rangers are

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Speaker 2: fifty and thirty and thirty three. And I just would

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Speaker 2: like to say that the manager is Bruce Bochie, who

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Speaker 2: won three championships with my favorite baseball team, so that's

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Speaker 2: surprised that he's good a good manager and able to

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Speaker 2: get the team in the right direction. I saw him

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Speaker 2: do that for many, many years in San Francisco. But

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Speaker 2: Arizona to me and they were again. Their win total

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Speaker 2: was like seventy four for the year.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to believe that a manager makes that much

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Speaker 1: of a difference, especially in baseballally, I.

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Speaker 2: Think it's just a you know, Bochie's best thing he

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Speaker 2: did was man he just was so good the matchups.

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Speaker 2: And this is before you know, before you know, analytics

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Speaker 2: became a huge part of baseball. He just knew his pitchers,

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Speaker 2: he knew, you know, kind of what matchups to put

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Speaker 2: him in.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, did one NFL player really asked his question?

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Speaker 1: We're going to tell you what he said on Fox

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Speaker 1: What's Sunday next. He says he could risk his life

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Speaker 1: for a team win. We'll explain that in just a minute.

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Speaker 1: But right now it's time to say good morning. This

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Speaker 1: think Oregon got a big offensive lineman, Jeff. That's going on,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Oregon's recruiting their butts off right now. I'm

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Speaker 2: doing good man. Fourth of July weekend. You know, we'll

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Speaker 2: hang around the house next couple of days. I'm getting

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00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: on the grill on on Tuesday. It's been a long

858
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: time I've been on the smoking so make it. I

859
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: got a recipe for these Korean style spare ribs. Oh

860
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: gonna take I'm gonna make a regular pork I'm gonna

861
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: make a regular baby back rack of pork ribs. And

862
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make these spare ribs that are Korean style.

863
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 2: I cannot wait. There you go.

864
00:40:57,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: I put a picture of that on Twitter.

865
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 2: Will you please? I will, buddy?

866
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: Do you know, not worry all right now? You know

867
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned food, which is great because you know we

868
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: talk about food and leftovers. You're a shift, so some leftovers.

869
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: I got some leftovers from my Schwartz. Of course they're big, okay,

870
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: And one of the questions I wanted to ask you,

871
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: is will the pay TV options hurt the NFL, because

872
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: now they got the Apple deal on Thursday night, and

873
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: maybe people are going to say, you know what, I

874
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: don't want to pay Could that possibly hurt the NFL

875
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 1: down the road.

876
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: Possibly, But I think we're all going to some sort

877
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 2: of streaming services, right, So I don't think it's going

878
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: to hurt them. I mean, you know, they've already been paid, right,

879
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: so there's no adjustment to be made if people don't

880
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: watch the games. I mean, the Amazon's paid them already

881
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: for the packages, so has you know, Fox and NBC

882
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 2: and CBS and ESPN or Disney. So they've already paid

883
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: for the for the games, so it might hurt them.

884
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it will because they're such a thirst

885
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: for watching the NFL. But I do find interesting that

886
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 2: there's a little bit of a pushback now and kind

887
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: of this bundling right where you have all these different

888
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: you know, services right to watch content on instead of

889
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: just like, hey, I'd rather have one remote. I'm like, well,

890
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: it's called cable. That's what we used to as how

891
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: we used to watch television. That's what we used to

892
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 2: do it, so it won't hurt the NFL from a

893
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: from a pocketbook. Maybe they get less viewers, certainly, but

894
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: you know, these content companies are still going to pay

895
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: them for that because in the NFL is the most

896
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: watched product in all of America.

897
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: Now, I gotta believe Thursday Night the viewership was a

898
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: lot less because I don't think a lot of people

899
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: subscribed last year it was.

900
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,279
Speaker 2: I mean, well, Andy, if you have Amazon Prime. Do

901
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 2: you have Amazon Prime?

902
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: Yes? Of course, Well, I mean if you I think

903
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: I have every every outlet, um.

904
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: All, I guess I asked the wrong question. There are

905
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: people that have Amazon Prime that do not watch football.

906
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: That's true in theory. They can watch football now, right

907
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: like it's available to watch for most Americans because of

908
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 2: because you know, of of the Amazon Prime is what

909
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: everyone uses now. So it mean one hundred and fifty

910
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: million Amazon Prime subscribers, I think you can those all

911
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: those subscribers are potential people that can watch football.

912
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I hear what you're saying. You say, but then

913
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: when he's up front, so it's not gonna hurt them.

914
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: You did mention Bruce Bochi in the last hour. You

915
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: know one of your favorite managers Natal League Baseball with

916
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,800
Speaker 1: the Giants. Okay, my question is this, can Sean Payton

917
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: be the difference makers to who head coach of the

918
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos.

919
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: Uh. I just don't know if Russell Wilson He's gonna

920
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: play better. But I just don't buy Russell Wilson as

921
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: as you know, being a top quarterback on the AFC.

922
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: And I mean the AFC has just loaded right now

923
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 2: with quarterbacks. I mean, he's the best, He's what third

924
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: in the division? Right. I think that Sean Paygne is

925
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: instilling discipline and winning attitude. I mean, those are definitely

926
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 2: different things that have been that were not there last season.

927
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 2: But I just don't think that Russell Wilson is salvageable

928
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 2: that much to make them a playoff team.

929
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, we talked about gambling and sports. The four

930
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: players that were suspended from the NFL, and NFL is

931
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: really cracking down on this gambling situation, really enforcing it

932
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 1: right now. Do you think maybe that gambling is good

933
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: for the public. I know it's a great revenue stream

934
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 1: for all sports, but is it really good? I Mean,

935
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: I've seen people, you know at ball games now taking

936
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: out their phone and betting in between innings at baseball games. Now,

937
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 1: is that a good thing?

938
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess it depends on your definition of good.

939
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you're losing money, it's not great. But if

940
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: you do it responsibly. Look, anything else you do in life,

941
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 2: you do it responsibly. It's not a It can be bad,

942
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 2: but it probably won't be as bad as it as

943
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,239
Speaker 2: it could be if you do it responsibly. Right, But

944
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 2: depends on what what Is it good that you have

945
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: the ability to lose money quickly? No, but I think

946
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: that again, it's just like any other advice. Right, If

947
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 2: you are able to to understand your your limits for consumption,

948
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 2: then it's not as bad as let's say, people that

949
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: have an addiction to it. So you can definitely get

950
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: addicted to it, man, Right, and oh yeah and so,

951
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 2: but again, I don't think it's any different than any

952
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,400
Speaker 2: other advice.

953
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 1: No, No, here's the question, and you don't have to

954
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: give names. But when you played you played eight years

955
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: in the NFL, did you see teammates gamble?

956
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 3: No?

957
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: Right, no, talk about it. No fantasy football and none

958
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: of that.

959
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: Well, fancy football is not gambling. I played fantasy football

960
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 2: well in the NFL. I didn't. It wasn't for any money.

961
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 2: I just was asked to join a couple of leagues

962
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 2: and I did it, which is totally allowed when I played.

963
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 2: You know, every now and then, depend on the team

964
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: and the year and the week, we sometimes do like

965
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 2: college football pick coms in the offensive line room, or

966
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: we have a rookie just right out, you know, the

967
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: fifteen best college football games of the week, and we

968
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 2: would just circle winners, had nothing to do with pointspread,

969
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: and we put twenty bucks in the pot, you know,

970
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: per week, and the guy with the most wins would

971
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 2: would have the pot at the end of the week.

972
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 2: But that, I mean, that's hardly gambling, I think. So

973
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 2: we're just picking winners.

974
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: No, there's no no money was exchanged.

975
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 2: No, we put twenty bucks in a pot for the week.

976
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,400
Speaker 2: But again, like, I don't think that that is really

977
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,919
Speaker 2: very much. I mean again, your you're your rookies would

978
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: write out a list of the top fifth of the

979
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 2: fifteen best football games of the week, the collag football games,

980
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 2: and we'd on Friday, we'd circle the guys we thought

981
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: would win, and that was that was it. That was like.

982
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: But if I heard stories where defensive linemen would put

983
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: twenty dollars in a pot, maybe even more so to

984
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: see if they can knock out an offensive player and

985
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: they win, the win them. Gambling is considered gambling.

986
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 2: Its bounty gate, right, that's what? Right?

987
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah?

988
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: I mean to me, it's not gambling. It's that's I mean,

989
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: that's the era that I played in. I mean, it's

990
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: not I don't think it's gambling to me, is it?

991
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 2: You know, is it playing the game the right way? No? Right,

992
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 2: because again I don't think anyone plays the game to

993
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: injure their opponents, and you shouldn't be playing the game

994
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: for that reason. Obviously, it happened in New Orleans, and

995
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: I would imagine that in other places there was a

996
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: lot of gambling, you know, card games and whatnot, like

997
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 2: traditional sort of what do you think gambling would be

998
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: in fl walkers? Was there?

999
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 1: Well on team flights maybe as well.

1000
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 2: So okay, lots of lots of you know, lots of

1001
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 2: money was was wagering in some of these card games.

1002
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Right now, now we talked about you mentioned him early

1003
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: on the cornerback for the New England Patriots, Jonathan Jones.

1004
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: He questions the gambling rules and he was informed on

1005
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: Twitter that any bets on NFL games would compromise quote

1006
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: the integrity of game, which you mentioned. But he had

1007
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 1: a response. He said, quote you could limit bets to

1008
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: be only for your team's benefit. Really, how stupid is that?

1009
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: First of all, why is he even coming out with that.

1010
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: He also said that he understands the rules, but quote,

1011
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: I can risk my life so that my team wins,

1012
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: but I can't risk one thousand dollars on my team winning.

1013
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean, someone's got to get a hold of this guy,

1014
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: and he may very he may pay the price for

1015
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: just saying what he said.

1016
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 2: Well, very clearly he doesn't actually gamble, because anyone who

1017
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: gambles would not want to gamble on the game they're

1018
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 2: playing in. Like I mentioned hour one, all the reasons

1019
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: why I think this is foolish. You know, the ability

1020
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: to have insider trading information essentially right injury report. You

1021
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: would know if guys are playing or not playing. You

1022
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 2: know too, obviously, if you don't wager on your team

1023
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: in that given a week, it's a right five that

1024
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 2: you think you're gonna lose. You know, the idea that

1025
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 2: you might do a little extra on the field if

1026
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 2: you get into a hole. There's always reasons why wager

1027
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: on the game is ridiculous if you're the player. But

1028
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 2: Andy in the NFL, you've been around enough locker rooms,

1029
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: you know this. It's a it's a it's a mentally

1030
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: draining sport, physically draining sport. All sports are, and what

1031
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 2: makes someone happy over you only to play seventeen games

1032
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 2: the NFL is winning, right, Winning is what makes the

1033
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 2: building happy anything else, and it stinks to be in

1034
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 2: the building, even one loss. It sucks. Everyone's upset that

1035
00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: the players are upset, the coaches are upset, the training

1036
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 2: staff and the equipment staff and the marketing staff advertising,

1037
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: everyone's just bummed, right, because if you have seventeen opportunities

1038
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: to play a game and that's it. I could not

1039
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 2: imagine Andy losing a football game and then checking my

1040
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: gambling account and I'm down money because I bet on

1041
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: my team to win, Like that would make it would

1042
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: make losing much worse. And I think that it's a

1043
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: It's obviously someone in Jones who never gambles, because he

1044
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,279
Speaker 2: would never say that if he has, he gambled. So

1045
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 2: and then the problem is some people endorse that thought,

1046
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: like get out of here.

1047
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Well, he did say he doesn't even bet on sports

1048
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 1: because he says the return on investment isn't that great.

1049
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: So he did say this he doesn't bet. So maybe

1050
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: he said this not to be, you know, one of

1051
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: those pushing back guys, but he just out of ignorance,

1052
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: he just didn't know what's what's wrong with it? On

1053
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 1: your own team.

1054
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 2: I made this analogy you know, earlier, Like the insider

1055
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 2: trading part of it, I think is pretty importive. If

1056
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 2: you were you know, if you if you were in

1057
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 2: the in the business of trading commodities right in stocks

1058
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: and why not, and you get inside information and you

1059
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: use information to make money, that's called insider training. Right.

1060
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: We saw that with obviously Martha Stewart most famously. Right,

1061
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 2: if you do that, you go to jail. Right. Well,

1062
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: the same thing can happen in football if you are

1063
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 2: if you are in the if a players listened as

1064
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: doubtful or probable not going to apply, especially the quarterbacks,

1065
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: and you know they've been practicing all week and you

1066
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: wager on that that's incidered information, you can't do that.

1067
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: That's illegal.

1068
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: The question I after you though, when you played an

1069
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: organ did anybody ever approach you or any of your

1070
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: teammates to get inside information. Who were gamblers? Do these

1071
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: guys come around practicing?

1072
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 2: No, there was no, no, There was no no, none

1073
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 2: of that when I played, But.

1074
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 1: I would think that's a possibility.

1075
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 2: Right. Well, Look, I think that part of good sharp

1076
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: sports wagers is they get inside information on injuries. I

1077
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,440
Speaker 2: don't know how they do it, but they do it right.

1078
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 2: And as I mentioned in the Hour one, you know,

1079
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 2: the example that I that I had is bow Knicks.

1080
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: Organ's quarterback was doubtful for the Utah game this year.

1081
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 2: I was I pretty much knew he'd play. I wasn't

1082
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,200
Speaker 2: quite sure he would play. I did not tell anyone.

1083
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: I didn't like shad information, but I thought he would

1084
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: play just talking to people in the program, so I

1085
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: know people organic that's the situation, where like I could

1086
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 2: have been, hey, everyone, bonus is gonna play. No, it's

1087
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 2: not what I do. I don't see that information. But

1088
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 2: that's how it works, right, is gamblers, they're these sharps, right,

1089
00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 2: I mean, that's what goodfellas, right. And he's just named

1090
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: de Niro's character, right, that's what that's that's he that's

1091
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: what he did right for a little bit. No, was

1092
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 2: it was it? No? It was uh, it was casino, right,

1093
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 2: whatever that it was. I think it was casino. It

1094
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. One of those like you can see and

1095
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 2: he moves, he walks up and he changes the number

1096
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: on the board, right, and then people run out and

1097
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 2: make calls and what I think it's actually casino. And

1098
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: and that's what these sharp guys did. They they called around,

1099
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 2: they got information, and that's what people still do now.

1100
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 2: It's just harder now with with more ways to get

1101
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: information out there to be like the one person who

1102
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: has into information.

1103
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: But by the way, fan watches a game, I mean,

1104
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: and if he sees a guy dropping a pass in

1105
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 1: the end zone, I think the first thing they would

1106
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 1: come to mind, like, oh wow, let's look at the

1107
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: points bread. Maybe it on purpose.

1108
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: By the way, there are times that I've got information

1109
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: about you know, roster, information about teams, who's up, who's down,

1110
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: and it's wrong. And I've wagered on teams and lost

1111
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: wagers because information I got was wrong. It's not always right.

1112
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:25,160
Speaker 1: That the wager while you were a player. No, okay,

1113
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: so you you kind of started this.

1114
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,080
Speaker 2: It wasn't it was it? Wasn't legal, and there wasn't

1115
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 2: you had to get a bookie to do it. I'm

1116
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: doing that here. Well, I never thought about it. I

1117
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 2: never thought about it one time.

1118
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: What just kind of curiousity? What got you started? What

1119
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: was the interest fact of this was so easy to

1120
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: do because you get it on your phone.

1121
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 2: No, I've never been able to get them. I don't

1122
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: live in a state that as legal sports wagering. So

1123
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 2: when I retired, one of the one I got a

1124
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: So my grandfather who passed her before I was born,

1125
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: he bet ponies like every day, like that's like he

1126
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 2: did all the time. So and I have I think

1127
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: some of that some of his personality. And I know

1128
00:54:06,239 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 2: he he loved to eat too, which I think I

1129
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,080
Speaker 2: got maybe that you got that from him as well,

1130
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,280
Speaker 2: but uh I and so I kind of just always

1131
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: been of that. That's always been my personality. When I

1132
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: in my career, there were times when I took one

1133
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 2: year deal instead of two year deals because I wanted

1134
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: to kind of better myself essentially, right, if I play well,

1135
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 2: I'll get a bigger deal next year. And that that

1136
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: worked one time, it did not work another time it

1137
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 2: was one for one but That's always been my personality.

1138
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna take a little bit of risk. I'm

1139
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: fine with that if I understand what the risk is

1140
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 2: and whatnot. So I've always kind of been that sort

1141
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: of personality to do that. Then when I got retired,

1142
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: I a media company reached out to me, Action Network,

1143
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: who had just started, and asked me to do a

1144
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: Super Bowl show with them, and I said yes. And

1145
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: then I started working Action Networks. I learned more about

1146
00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 2: the industry and learn more, you know, how to how

1147
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: a wager in a hopefully a smarter way than that

1148
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: made money, I mean very hard to make money. Obviously

1149
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 2: I was in sports wagering, so it just and it's

1150
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: also you know, there's different ways to get into sports media.

1151
00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 2: One of them is just like being a great player,

1152
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 2: being a Hall of Famer, being a super Bowl champion. Well,

1153
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: guess what, I'm neither of those, Andy, I wasn't. I'm

1154
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer, I'm not a super Bowl champion,

1155
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: So I don't have an easy end to the to

1156
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: the NFL media, Well what I what I what I

1157
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 2: am is one of the only former players that actually

1158
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: talks about sports away, not just makes bets. Okay, playing

1159
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 2: with former players make wagers. I understand how it works,

1160
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: like I I. I'm in sports wager I've been doing

1161
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 2: for five years now, four years now. It's different than

1162
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 2: just giving picks here my picks for the day. No, no, no,

1163
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: I cover the sport through the lens of of gambling.

1164
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 2: So it's kind of my knee. It's like my role right,

1165
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 2: Like I'm one of the only former players that actually

1166
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: gets how this works and talks about it for a

1167
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: living full time. So that's that kind of is my

1168
00:55:58,280 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: role in sports media now?

1169
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, I get it. Then this Jonathan Jones, he

1170
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,319
Speaker 1: doesn't wager, but we'll see what happens down the road

1171
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: with him. He gets a slap on the wrist from

1172
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,600
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Speaker 1: sixty nine. And of course bottom berrel betting in this

1181
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 1: hour and the blame game an hour number three. But

1182
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: where will he land? That's next? Who would want him?

1183
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just about a minute. He's

1184
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz. I'm Andy Furman. This is Fox Sports Sunday

1185
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: on Fox Sports.

1186
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: Right.

1187
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little NBA if we can. Jeff, and

1188
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: some of the movements that I've made now in free

1189
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: agency which got on the way the other day, and

1190
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: there have been moves galore. One of the moves I

1191
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 1: don't understand really, and I guess Dallas knew they were

1192
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: going to re sign Kyrie Irving. But three years at

1193
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,240
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty six mil. Why I don't understand

1194
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: the whole deal with that. I think that, Look, he

1195
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: was somewhat productive. He played twenty games for Dallas that

1196
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: came there in February. The team went eight and twelve

1197
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: when he was there, and they were five and eleven

1198
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: when he and Luka Doncis were both on the floor.

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00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: I guess that Dallas Mavericks didn't have many options that

1200
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: had to resaw on it, but one hundred and twenty

1201
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: six mil well currently wrong.

1202
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 2: Most of the NBA salaries are basically set in the CBA, right, like, well,

1203
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 2: you can pay a certain player, so now you can

1204
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 2: always se play them less. But they're sort of a max,

1205
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 2: you know, idea of what you can pay these guys.

1206
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 2: So I think that was that's part of it, right,

1207
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 2: You kind of just set in what you can pay

1208
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 2: the guys, and so you pay them what the CBA

1209
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 2: says you have to. You have to. You have to

1210
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 2: keep Kyrie there, otherwise the trade and whatnot is for

1211
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: no no reason, right, you have to do it. So

1212
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised that they went that direction. And you

1213
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 2: hope that possibly this leads to other players wanting to

1214
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: come and play with Kyrie and pel Luca, And I

1215
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: think you want to also just sort of get yourself

1216
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,000
Speaker 2: situated with with the roster with kind of get a

1217
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 2: fall off season, kind of get everyone on the same

1218
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 2: page ready to go heading into and heading into this

1219
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 2: next season. So that makes it makes sense, And there

1220
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: was who else would to No one's a trade for

1221
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 2: Kyrie like the Massis.

1222
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, they're stuck with him.

1223
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: You're right, They're stuck with him. This is what they

1224
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 2: this is what they signed up for.

1225
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 1: Look, look, I would say this a good player when

1226
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: he plays. He had availability issues, had injuries and discipline problems,

1227
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: personal reasons. I mean, there are several things on there

1228
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: on the table. If I went to make a chart,

1229
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: the negativity would outweigh the positivity on my team. I

1230
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 1: don't want him on my team. And for that kind

1231
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: of money, I don't know. But again, I don't think

1232
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 1: they had a choice. But I look again at the

1233
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors. I say it's time to move on.

1234
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 1: They give Draymond Green four years at one hundred MILLI

1235
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: this guy's thirty three. I think the big question now

1236
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: with Golden State is a win now or invest in

1237
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: the future. They just signed Chris paul He's a thirty

1238
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: seven year old. Well you've got to let it go, man,

1239
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the future is not with these guys.

1240
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean the thing with obviously what Draymond is.

1241
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: I think their idea was we're going to try to

1242
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 2: run it back right because obviously, again the core is

1243
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:33,640
Speaker 2: really good. You bring Chris Paul in and you hope

1244
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: that he takes away some of the some of the

1245
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: work load of being a point guard. That's you know

1246
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: Steph last year, if you noticed, I mean he did

1247
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: a lot of he do a lot of the posters,

1248
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 2: and he brought the Paul up initiate offense. I think

1249
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 2: you hope that that Chris Paul takes some of that

1250
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 2: load away from Staph and staff can kind of return

1251
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 2: to just being the shooter and the two guard and

1252
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 2: don't have to worry so much about being you know,

1253
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: the ball handler.

1254
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 1: Right, you know, one of the moves I think that

1255
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: went under the under the rug of his sense not

1256
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: People didn't talk about it because the Denver Nuggets won

1257
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: the title. They lose Bruce Brown. This guy was a

1258
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:17,080
Speaker 1: major part of that. The rotation forty five mil by

1259
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: the Indiana Paceers. I mean, you know, and I look

1260
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,919
Speaker 1: at that. I mean, a guy just wins a ring

1261
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: with Denver. There's a pretty good situation over there. That

1262
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: got a good nucleus of players. They could possibly repeat

1263
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: again next year. You know, it is the I don't know,

1264
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: I've never been down that road. Is the money that

1265
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 1: big a deal? I mean, forty five million is a

1266
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: lot of money. There really is no doubt. I'm sure

1267
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: Denver was paying him a pretty penny. Doesn't make that

1268
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: much of a difference. How many cars at homes can

1269
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: you have? I'd rather win. I would rather win than

1270
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: move along to Indiana and maybe not even get into

1271
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs.

1272
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 2: I think that you. I think that you you just

1273
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:55,720
Speaker 2: like you're happy. Look, you won your championship. I think

1274
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 2: you're super pumped about that. But that like, at some

1275
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: point you have to that kind of that quote nquote

1276
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:04,560
Speaker 2: second contract and that's what we got here. I think

1277
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 2: that's what you take and you're happy about, like you

1278
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,000
Speaker 2: you you just you have to be happy with getting

1279
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Speaker 2: that life changing money and understand that in that life

1280
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: changing money, you might you might have to switch teams

1281
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 2: and you might go to a war situation. But he

1282
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 2: won the championship. But he sat man, he won his championship.

1283
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 2: You mean players would kill the winner. I would love

1284
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 2: to win a championship like it's a it's a it's

1285
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 2: an incredible thing to actually get that under your belt.

1286
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:35,800
Speaker 2: They have that, and now he can just go, you know,

1287
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: go make some money. Good for him, Like I think

1288
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: that everyone roots for players to to kind of make

1289
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 2: that money, and he did, and good for him.

1290
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: Good feeling all right. Now, let's talk about James Harden

1291
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: for a second. All the talk on this offseason James Harden,

1292
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:51,800
Speaker 1: who's going to resign with the seventy six is maybe

1293
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: he wants to go back to Houston with the Rockets.

1294
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Why.

1295
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. The answer to the question is neither

1296
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: A nor a B. He's opting out of his contract.

1297
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: The seventy six is did to try to trade him.

1298
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,320
Speaker 1: My question again is who would want him? Maybe the

1299
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,000
Speaker 1: Clippers because they could use it ball. Clippers always get

1300
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: stuck with a guy that doesn't produce. That's the problem

1301
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: with the Clippers. They really spend the money. Either guy

1302
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:14,640
Speaker 1: gets injured like Kawhi Leonard or Paul George. That these

1303
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 1: guys could get injured, they don't play. It's just it's

1304
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 1: a sad situation with the Clippers.

1305
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 2: There really is.

1306
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: But I guess this guy wants to go to a contender.

1307
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 2: It's a it's a very Clipper thing obviously that this

1308
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: is what the Clippers are. But I I don't know. Man.

1309
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 2: If I think you add if you say, okay, we

1310
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 2: add Hard into our roster. He doesn't have to be

1311
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 2: one or two. He can be three and he just

1312
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 2: becomes a shooter, and you know, adding him it makes

1313
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 2: a lot of sense for that reason, I don't I

1314
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,480
Speaker 2: don't know. He's not obviously has not been a winner

1315
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 2: in the playoffs. I think that's your hope, maybe, right.

1316
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, Kyrie Irving and James Harden, I a these

1317
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 1: two guys, I stay away from a fact that. I mean,

1318
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: Harden was at a shape lest year. You look like

1319
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 1: you put on some weight. I just these these guys

1320
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: aren't good for teams. I think that they're disruptive when

1321
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: the team roster. They really are.

1322
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I think that the way, you know, the

1323
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 2: way that this I think typically works is you just

1324
01:03:16,080 --> 01:03:18,320
Speaker 2: like you hope, if you're a general manager, you have

1325
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 2: to convince yourself that what we're doing is going to

1326
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a different this time when when I'm

1327
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: in charge. But b I think if he comes to

1328
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: our if he comes to our roster, he's good enough

1329
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 2: to win, you know, to to win for us. We'll

1330
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 2: make it right on our team, and you just hope

1331
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,040
Speaker 2: that that's that's that's the cio that happens. It doesn't

1332
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: always happen that way, but I think that's sort of

1333
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 2: like the dream of how it could happen.

1334
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: Right, and the fact that maybe you have a chance

1335
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: to win a title, maybe you shape up and be

1336
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: part of the team.

1337
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard to always for that to actually be

1338
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,480
Speaker 2: the case, but I think that's how people, gentlemen have

1339
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: They have to feel that way, right, They have to

1340
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 2: feel that if this guy joins our roster, he becomes

1341
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 2: one of us, and he becomes closer to the team,

1342
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680
Speaker 2: and he does what we need him to do, and

1343
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: we win because of that.

1344
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: And don't you think that In the world of sports,

1345
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: being a manager in baseball, coaching football in the NBA,

1346
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: they have like the father Flanagan attitude, like, you know,

1347
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 1: he didn't work out in that team, But I could

1348
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: change him. I could make a difference. And maybe Sean

1349
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: Payton's feeling that now with his quarterback Russell will I

1350
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 1: could change.

1351
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: But the thing about Sean Payon, though, is he he

1352
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 2: was he kind of he was given Russell Wilson. You know,

1353
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 2: it's part of the deal. He might not stay with

1354
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson, but that's kind of what he started with.

1355
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: No, you're right, you're right, all right, He's Jeff Schwartz.

1356
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Ferman. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

1357
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. And by the way, money can't buy happiness.

1358
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: That's coming up next on Fox Sports Sunday Live from

1359
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 1: the ti iraq dot Com studios. But first, here's our guy,

1360
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Wyatt with all.

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 4: Your sports well se like a money's bought a lot

1362
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 4: of happiness for Demontes Sabonis two hundred million dollars he

1363
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 4: just re signed for with the Sacramento Kings.

1364
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 1: It's over five years.

1365
01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: LaMelo Ball getting the maximum rookie extension that's also a

1366
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:13,920
Speaker 4: five year deal.

1367
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks.

1368
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 4: Much was said about how we poked the bear tripped

1369
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 4: at Lebron, calling him old after the Memphis Grizzlies had

1370
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 4: beaten the Lakers in that playoff series and only for

1371
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 4: the Lakers to come back and really show them what's up.

1372
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 4: But he got a big contract regardless, four year deal

1373
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 4: eighty million dollars. Dylan Brooks signing with the Houston Rockets.

1374
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 4: Brook Lopez going back to Milwaukee, so the Bucks keeping

1375
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,920
Speaker 4: their championship Corps intact. They brought back Chris Middleton, they

1376
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 4: also brought back brook Lopez. Lopez' deal is a two

1377
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,400
Speaker 4: year deal worth forty eight million dollars in Milwaukee, also

1378
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 4: adding Jake Crowder as well. The Pacers trading for Obi

1379
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 4: Topping from New York, and the Knicks are going to

1380
01:05:56,280 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 4: sign Dante Devincenzo to a four year deal worth fifty

1381
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 4: million dollars. The Phillies pound the Nationals nineteen to four

1382
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 4: on Saturday, the Braves making it seven wins in a row.

1383
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 4: They get five runs in the first inning, or excuse me,

1384
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 4: six runs in the first inning in route to a

1385
01:06:13,160 --> 01:06:17,479
Speaker 4: seven to zero win against the Marlins. The Boston Red

1386
01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 4: Sox they hang on literally at the last second, the

1387
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,720
Speaker 4: last possible play. They threw a runner out at the

1388
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 4: plate to walk it off. I guess if you want

1389
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 4: to call it that, a walk off runner thrown out

1390
01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 4: to play a seven to six win against the Toronto

1391
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: Blue Jays. Yankee splitting a doubleheader with the Cardinals. They

1392
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 4: lost eleven to four in Game one, but they did

1393
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 4: win in game two, six to two. The Royals scored

1394
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 4: five runs and didn't look back. They beat the Dodgers

1395
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 4: six to four. The Mariners down Tampa Bay eight to three.

1396
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 4: The Tigers get attempt inning home run. They win at

1397
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 4: Colorado four to two. The Athletics have won a game.

1398
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:50,160
Speaker 2: They made it.

1399
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 4: They got it on a tenth inning error as the

1400
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 4: White Sox fall seven to six. The Mets and Justin

1401
01:06:57,240 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 4: Verlander they take down the Giants four one. The Texas

1402
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,200
Speaker 4: Rangers one of the surprise stories of this year. They

1403
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 4: beat the Houston Astros, the defending champions, five to two,

1404
01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 4: Nathan Valdi getting his tenth win of the season. There's

1405
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,919
Speaker 4: now a tie at top of the NL Central after

1406
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,080
Speaker 4: the Reds lose to the Padres twelve five and the

1407
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 4: Brewers beat the Pirates eleven eight, so both of those

1408
01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 4: teams tied a top of the standings. And out West,

1409
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 4: the Diamondbacks beat the Angels three to one and the

1410
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 4: Halos only had three hits. They have now lost four

1411
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 4: games in a row. And that's the spite of all

1412
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 4: the magic we've scene from Sho Hao Tani back to

1413
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 4: you guys.

1414
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: Nice Kevis he In and now, and that was the

1415
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 1: worst team so far. Murdy Komby. We'll get to that

1416
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:38,720
Speaker 1: in just about a minute. We've crossed a fifty oddline

1417
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 1: on what we call Fox Sports Sunday and Fox Sports Radio.

1418
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman, bottom barrel betting coming

1419
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 1: up in about five six minutes for now. And you

1420
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:49,560
Speaker 1: know I heard Kevin mentioned the walkoff term. Do you

1421
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 1: know who coined the phrase walkoff in baseball?

1422
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 2: No? Who did?

1423
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: This is what I saw on the MLB network the

1424
01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: other day. Dennis Eckersley, as an announcer with the Boston

1425
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,360
Speaker 1: Red Side. He coined the phrase to walk off. No

1426
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: way's I said that MLB Network. I don't know it's

1427
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 1: true enough, but that's that's what they said.

1428
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 2: So it did not happen until Eckersley said it. No

1429
01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 2: one called it that.

1430
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 1: That's what they say, all right, pull him on to

1431
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: dispute that. All right, let's talk baseball for a second.

1432
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: Steve Cone, richest owner in baseball. His payroll for the

1433
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 1: New York Mets this year three hundred and sixty four.

1434
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: Mil boy, it's unbelievad. He must be sleeping up there

1435
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 1: looking at the ceiling of nine, going crazy. All right,

1436
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,240
Speaker 1: his team is looking like for a seventy three wins season.

1437
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: What happened to the Mets? Justin Verland at forty years

1438
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: of age of four to eleven era over his first

1439
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: ten starts, It's it's not good I mean when you're

1440
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,559
Speaker 1: forty years of age and you can't fight father, Look

1441
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: he did.

1442
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,880
Speaker 2: The theme in baseball has sort of always been for

1443
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:53,680
Speaker 2: years and years and years that you cannot buy a championship,

1444
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,599
Speaker 2: right like, you just can't. You can't. And the Mets

1445
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 2: have tried to buy championship. It does not work. The

1446
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: teams that win a lot of championships typically begin with

1447
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of players that are homegrown. Now the Mets

1448
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 2: have some of those guys, but they've tried to purchase

1449
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: a lot of them as well. And I don't know

1450
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,360
Speaker 2: how many examples in baseball history we have to continue

1451
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:24,640
Speaker 2: to go over Andy where that is not the way

1452
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: that you build a championship roster.

1453
01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:30,680
Speaker 1: And then that's Dodgers have done it that way, correct.

1454
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: I mean everyone again, but the Giants did it with

1455
01:09:33,080 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: farms and a couple of additions, right, hundred pence addition,

1456
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,240
Speaker 2: right like you can add a couple of guys, but

1457
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:43,400
Speaker 2: you have to have that core group of players sort

1458
01:09:43,400 --> 01:09:47,680
Speaker 2: of be that young crew that you know that you

1459
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 2: were able to groom as you knows as your guys

1460
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,720
Speaker 2: over the years, and you have that tight core of individuals.

1461
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: That's not what the Mets are doing. And that is

1462
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: again they have a lot of talent, no one disagrees

1463
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 2: with that, but they're not able to win in a

1464
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 2: way they would like because this is still it was

1465
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:09,320
Speaker 2: a talent's old.

1466
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: You know, Ertlander's forty and Max Shur's is going to

1467
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 1: be thirty nine next week or two weeks ago. I mean,

1468
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: they got big names, but these guys they're in the

1469
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 1: twilight of their career. Well maybe they're even finished. That's it.

1470
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean, he signed these guys because Steve Cohen. I

1471
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,960
Speaker 1: don't know the guy, the owner, he's probably a fan,

1472
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,680
Speaker 1: he knew the name. He had no idea. You know

1473
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 1: that the age factor is going to hurt them, and

1474
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 1: it did. I mean, first of all, sure's I had

1475
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: that suspension anyway this year ten games he missed for

1476
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 1: that foreign substance rule. I mean that's not good.

1477
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: Well that was I think that was I don't that rule.

1478
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,440
Speaker 2: I think it's a little bs the same umpire thus

1479
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 2: threw everyone out.

1480
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: Right, and Jacob de Grum he's been injured too, So

1481
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: they got some injuries. They got the old age fact.

1482
01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 1: I just I don't see it happening for the Mets.

1483
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: I really don't.

1484
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't either.

1485
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: Like you said, look, it's very similar. I guess you

1486
01:10:57,560 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: could say in San Diego with the Padres, with the

1487
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 1: money that they spent on their budget for their payroll.

1488
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean, they're not winning and they try to buy

1489
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: a championship team as well. Can't do it. You just

1490
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,800
Speaker 1: can't do it.

1491
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,360
Speaker 2: You can't. And I think that's that's a problem that

1492
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 2: you know, baseball team is run into too much. They

1493
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 2: try to do it themselves. It doesn't work that way,

1494
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 2: and I mean they try to do it a fregency.

1495
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't work that way, and they get upset when when

1496
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 2: it does end up working.

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Speaker 1: And if anybody wants to look at the model, the

1498
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: model should be the Tampa Bay Rays because they've always

1499
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, had a low pay roll. They brought their

1500
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 1: players up and it took time. It took time, but

1501
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,800
Speaker 1: they've won and there's a cycle. Then they have to

1502
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 1: go back again and these guys are coming up again

1503
01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 1: from the monus and now this year they're winning again.

1504
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: That's what they do. They cultivate their players, they draft

1505
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: well and they bring them up.

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01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 2: Yes, now they haven't won a championship, so you know,

1507
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 2: you look at that and say, okay, well, you know

1508
01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: they've done it sort of the right way, but not

1509
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 2: all the way, which makes a ton of sense. But again,

1510
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 2: it's that's you have to start with your at least

1511
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: look again, maybe just really you typically have to start

1512
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 2: with your minor league system being really good, and that's

1513
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,639
Speaker 2: how you, like you begin that process. Your minor league

1514
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 2: system is good, and that's how you kind of you

1515
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 2: load up everybody to be able to to kind of

1516
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,680
Speaker 2: add as you go.

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01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: Look, I don't know Steve Coin from Adam. I couldn't

1518
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:18,840
Speaker 1: pick him out in a lineup. But the thing is

1519
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: when you're a fan, and basically he's more of a

1520
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,320
Speaker 1: fan than an owner. And he's in New York, and

1521
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,640
Speaker 1: I got to compete for the back page on the

1522
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,719
Speaker 1: tabloids with the New York Yankees. That's why he's sunning

1523
01:12:28,760 --> 01:12:30,920
Speaker 1: these big names. That's the big deal in New York

1524
01:12:30,960 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: to get to the back page on the New York

1525
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: Daily News and the New York Post. I mean, forget

1526
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 1: about social media. That's basically where he's at. I'm sure

1527
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: that's his mindset. He says, I'm gonna sign Verlander. I'm

1528
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: gonna get sure, and that's gonna help me out. I'm

1529
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,120
Speaker 1: going to get the press and hopefully we'll win over

1530
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: some people. But it's backfired big time because they're not

1531
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 1: going postseason this year.

1532
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: The New York Mets. I think he Look, no, I

1533
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 2: don't think it's about winning the back. I think he

1534
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,880
Speaker 2: will just I mean he wants to obviously, you know

1535
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 2: these trying to win a championship. I think he's just

1536
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 2: doing it in a way that you know, is he's

1537
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: trying to do it. What's the right word. He's trying

1538
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 2: to do it as quickly possible without the patience that

1539
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:10,719
Speaker 2: it takes. It takes some patience.

1540
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 1: Well, and look at some of these guys who you

1541
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:17,599
Speaker 1: expect big seasons at Francisco Lindor. I mean he's been slumping.

1542
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 1: I mean he's coming back a little bit. So he

1543
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 1: got some players who are good years last year, they

1544
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: won one hundred and one games last year to match.

1545
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen this year. It's just not And

1546
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: that's what happens. I mean, you got a guy like

1547
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 1: Verland who was forty Look, you know you can't put

1548
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 1: father times there. It just happens. The body breaks down.

1549
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it right now in front of my own

1550
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: eyes with Joey Vado with the Cincinnati Reds. It's a shame.

1551
01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 1: Guy's thirty nine right now. He can't do what he

1552
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: did when he was twenty five. You just can't do it.

1553
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 2: No, father talks everyone. Man, it happens. I know.

1554
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: It's a shame, isn't it doing it to me every day?

1555
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

1556
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 2: I know.

1557
01:13:53,600 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 1: But I don't have to play. That's all I gotta

1558
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,800
Speaker 1: do is sit at my rear end. There you go.

1559
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:01,280
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready. Now,

1560
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 1: it's more than a game, it's more than competition. It's

1561
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: a way of life. It's bottom barrel betting, and it's

1562
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:12,000
Speaker 1: freaking next bottom barrel betting coming right up about eleven

1563
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: minutes now before the top of the hour. This is

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready. Were Life from

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01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,679
Speaker 1: the tiraq dot com studios. He's Jeff Schwartz, I Meany Furman,

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1571
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 1: Let that think for me. It's bottom mil you thought

1572
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 1: you was life. Put my money to sleep. People, get

1573
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: my money.

1574
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 4: I'll put your brain to sleep.

1575
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:41,160
Speaker 2: Betting.

1576
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it is a man that holds down the fourth

1577
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: the big e Ethan Miller. Hello, what's up?

1578
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 5: What's going on?

1579
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 3: Guys?

1580
01:14:48,479 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 2: All right here last with some money.

1581
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, last week, Jeff you went three and two and

1582
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 3: Andy you went one and four.

1583
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 5: So it's pretty typical. That's typical week.

1584
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 1: For you know, it's not I mean, really, what do

1585
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: you have to say? It's really not tip?

1586
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 5: All right, here we go. We're gonna start with cornhole.

1587
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 3: Uh, we're gonna do the Cali Slingers versus Michigan Calli

1588
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: Slingers are minus one twenty five.

1589
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh well, I'm I mean, I'm a California guy. I

1590
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 2: got I got my slingers here.

1591
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 1: Of course, I'm not you know what, whatever you take,

1592
01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm not taking. I'm not taking the Kelly Sleeping because

1593
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 1: they sound weak. They just sound weaks to me. Kelly

1594
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: sling because people in California are laid back. They'd rather

1595
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: go to the beach and go surfing. So they're not

1596
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: good at this, so I think they're gonna lose. I'm

1597
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: not taking.

1598
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,679
Speaker 5: Them, all right, that's tell us how you really feel.

1599
01:15:40,479 --> 01:15:44,799
Speaker 3: All right? On the cricket, we're gonna do India versus England.

1600
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 3: What do you got?

1601
01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 2: I mean for cricket? I think I think, I think

1602
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:50,759
Speaker 2: you go India here.

1603
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I just I think they're just

1604
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 1: better athletes overall in England. And I'm not trying to

1605
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: broadbrush the country of I've never been there, but I

1606
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,759
Speaker 1: just got to believe England has better athletes and more competitive.

1607
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 1: Plus there's a lot more gambling I think going on

1608
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 1: in England, so they're going to wage runs today. They

1609
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,679
Speaker 1: have to play better. I like England. I like England.

1610
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 5: All right, great theory, I'm with it.

1611
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: Uh thank you.

1612
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 3: Here we go on to what's it called? Uh god,

1613
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 3: I should have had another coffee.

1614
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:25,479
Speaker 5: Darts.

1615
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,840
Speaker 2: Darts are weekly darts. I love it.

1616
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 5: Yes, you guys love that.

1617
01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:29,880
Speaker 1: This is not fair.

1618
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,760
Speaker 5: Robin Beggar versus Andy Jenkins.

1619
01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:38,360
Speaker 1: Where are they from? And where's this matchup?

1620
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 3: Well you have to google that one, oh, because because

1621
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 3: they're not on there.

1622
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,559
Speaker 5: It's just you know, it's just their names.

1623
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:46,759
Speaker 1: There any odds here?

1624
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,799
Speaker 3: Odds minus one thirty five for Robin Beggar and Andy

1625
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 3: Jenkins is plus one oh five.

1626
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 1: You know, you could give me two names that I'm

1627
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: like next door neighbor. I wouldn't even know the difference

1628
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to dodds.

1629
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I take Give me the names.

1630
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 5: Again, Robin Bagger or Andy Jenkins.

1631
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: Give me any je I think I've been a jack

1632
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: as before. It's been profitable.

1633
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: Really, Yeah, see you know this stuff. You know, I

1634
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 1: like to name beggar for some reason. I don't know why,

1635
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: Like Robin Begger, is this b e G G e

1636
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 1: R beggar?

1637
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, e G e R Yeah, beggar, Yeah.

1638
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, beggar. You know he's a beggar. He's I'll go

1639
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: with the beggar. I'm begging too, so we're both someone

1640
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,559
Speaker 1: in comedy. Go with the beggar.

1641
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 3: On to the hot dog eating contest, very exciting stuff.

1642
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:39,240
Speaker 3: We'll just do Joey Chestnut against the field.

1643
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean you have to take Joey Chester. I

1644
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 2: don't care what I don't care what the numbers are.

1645
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when I'm gonna go with Chestnut too,

1646
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,120
Speaker 1: I mean The guy's amazing. I mean, would you consider

1647
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: him an athlete? Jeff? Is he an athlete?

1648
01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 2: The good question? I mean he trains like one.

1649
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, but you know, you don't even enjoy the

1650
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 1: hot dog. I watch him when he does this. He

1651
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,160
Speaker 1: he just takes the hot they don't sit in the water, right,

1652
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: and he shoves the whole hot dog down the store.

1653
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he choose it.

1654
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 2: I think he choose very like softly, like uh like,

1655
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: very quickly at me, like it's it happens fast.

1656
01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: You know, you're a you're an eater? Can you get

1657
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,799
Speaker 1: this a buck? Would you be in an eating contest?

1658
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 1: Could you do well?

1659
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:21,599
Speaker 3: No?

1660
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 2: Not anymore. But I mean back in the day maybe,

1661
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 2: but not not now, no chance.

1662
01:18:26,160 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: I think it's disgusting, to be honest. I mean, watch

1663
01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: these guys shove down forty fifty hot dogs. It's like,

1664
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: oh my goodness.

1665
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,479
Speaker 2: Really I couldn't do it now, there's no chance. Back

1666
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:35,920
Speaker 2: in the day, maybe.

1667
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: I eat two hot dogs on full. I mean, maybe

1668
01:18:37,360 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: there's something wrong with me. I actuallyn't do it.

1669
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's pretty much.

1670
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 2: I just I couldn't now. I just couldn't do it.

1671
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,880
Speaker 1: Now, what's the most you've ever eaten?

1672
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:55,040
Speaker 2: Who one sitting? Oh jeez, A lot? I don't could

1673
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,200
Speaker 2: you put that? We used to we used to have

1674
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,360
Speaker 2: like an all sushi plays by my house that I

1675
01:18:58,400 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 2: would eat a lot of.

1676
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 1: All right, well you're you're a big guy, so I

1677
01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:04,640
Speaker 1: mean you could do that and you could hold it

1678
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:05,839
Speaker 1: anymore anymore.

1679
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I got you

1680
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 3: one more right. Premier League Lacrosse very exciting. Let's go

1681
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,759
Speaker 3: the cannons versus Atlas to pick them.

1682
01:19:17,200 --> 01:19:19,320
Speaker 2: Oh, give me, give me the cannon because they'll still

1683
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 2: shoot their competition down.

1684
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,240
Speaker 1: Atlas is big because it's the entire world, you know,

1685
01:19:24,280 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 1: like Charles Atlas. You know that's what they need. Yeah, chatless,

1686
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: I like the Adamstadtlas. I'm gonna win this week. I

1687
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: just have a feeling. Here we go, all right. Jeff

1688
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 1: Schwartz Andy fourman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

1689
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Speaker 1: What'd you take money from? This man? We'll tell you

1690
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Speaker 1: all about it next a Fox. It was worth more

1691
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Speaker 1: than this. We'll explain that in just about a minute.

1692
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Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox

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Speaker 1: right now, and guess what, only sixty seven days I

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Speaker 1: figured this out. I might be wrong. Sixty seven days

1701
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:15,320
Speaker 1: to the first NFL game.

1702
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I cannot wait. It is my

1703
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs hosting the Lions training camp will be here before

1704
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: we know it. It is a great and you know,

1705
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 2: like college football, like August twenty sixth, first game for

1706
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,800
Speaker 2: college football. It is. It's gonna be here before we

1707
01:20:31,800 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 2: know it. Man, I cannot wait. Do you have a

1708
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,840
Speaker 2: college football team of choice? Is our favorite? You have?

1709
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: You know it's kind of crazy, but I always rooted

1710
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State. I don't know why. I lived in

1711
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: Oklahoma for a while. I always like going to the

1712
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 1: Cowboy games. I liked. I used to drive out to Stillwater.

1713
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: I lived in Tulsa and I drive to Stillwater to

1714
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: see their football game. So kind of like Oklahoma State,

1715
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: but you're now in the Midwest. You know, I look

1716
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 1: at Ohio State. I follow them, but I don't bleed them.

1717
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: You know, when the scores come out on Saturday night,

1718
01:20:58,479 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 1: I usually look at Oklahoma State.

1719
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:04,040
Speaker 2: For okay, all right, didn't expect Oklahoma State to be

1720
01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 2: your team both choice, but yeah, I mean, I just

1721
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be here before we know it. And I'm

1722
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: just like, I love.

1723
01:21:11,200 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Football and I'm happy because Oklahoma State in Big twelve.

1724
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: Now Cincinnati isn't a Big twelve. I could see.

1725
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: Them, Yes, I hope. Did dinner not set with my wife?

1726
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 2: And I was and she's like, it's been so nice

1727
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: to like have more date nights. I'm like, yeah, football's

1728
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 2: coming up, so you know that was funny. What lasted?

1729
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,280
Speaker 2: Are they gonna happen when football comes up?

1730
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1731
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, but you know, it's great.

1732
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,080
Speaker 1: It gives you something to look forward to. I mean,

1733
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,599
Speaker 1: the way football is is programmed, so to speak, at

1734
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: least the NFL. You know, you have the Monday night

1735
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 1: game and then after that you have like the Wednesday

1736
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,120
Speaker 1: news conference to promote it. It's perfect the way they

1737
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: do it. Thursday night they play again, it's just a

1738
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: perfect situation the way they do it. I mean, no

1739
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,960
Speaker 1: other sport has it that way, you know, and I

1740
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 1: hope they don't ruin it by putting games on Tuesday, Wednesday,

1741
01:21:57,800 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 1: whatever it may be, or Friday.

1742
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:03,919
Speaker 2: You know. Just the thing about the thing about the football,

1743
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 2: the reason why it is king is because there is

1744
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: limited access to games. Right, you have seventeen games on

1745
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,639
Speaker 2: the NFL side, and then college football you have twelve

1746
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: right right season games, So every game feels like it

1747
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 2: is the most important game that you've ever had, and

1748
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 2: that that makes it where as a fan, you're like,

1749
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 2: we can't lose this game because especially college football, our

1750
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:37,360
Speaker 2: season's over, right, So it makes it the inventory amounts

1751
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: makes us as fans feel way more connected to each

1752
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,280
Speaker 2: and every game. Right. I watched the Giants play the

1753
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 2: Mets last night, like they lost four to one, Right, cool,

1754
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: we'll get it back tomorrow. Right in football, it's just

1755
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 2: not that way, man. Every game feels like it's the

1756
01:22:55,160 --> 01:23:00,120
Speaker 2: most important game ever. And it makes football, I think,

1757
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 2: that much more enjoyable to to obviously watch and follow,

1758
01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 2: and makes it in.

1759
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: The mindset of the athletes is a lot different, you know,

1760
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: A loss in football is somewhat devastating. We're lost in baseball.

1761
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 1: I think it's like a las a fair situation. Well,

1762
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, we lost, we lost to sit We're playing

1763
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:16,599
Speaker 1: and begin in August, you know what I mean. It's

1764
01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: just a different attitude.

1765
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,479
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so it makes obviously viewing the sport and

1766
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 2: watching the sports so much different. And I think that's

1767
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 2: what the urgency of football. It's just there's also just

1768
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 2: so much to like break down and talk about each week.

1769
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 2: I mean, are you gonna break every pitch for amander

1770
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 2: through last night as a casual? Probably not right. And

1771
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 2: so it's just there's just so much to watch and

1772
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 2: enjoy of football that you don't get in other sports,

1773
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 2: which again I watch other sports. I have no problem

1774
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 2: with other sports, and I just think that that makes

1775
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: them just a lot different obviously, right.

1776
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 1: And it's funny, but because you mentioned like the intensity

1777
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 1: of the athlete. I watched the NBA game. I love

1778
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,479
Speaker 1: the NBA. I watched during the season, but they ramp

1779
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 1: it up during the playoffs because obviously I think they

1780
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,400
Speaker 1: know it just we just want to make the playoffs

1781
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: the regular season just to get to the playoffs. Don't

1782
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: get hurt, get into the playoffs, and then we'll rev

1783
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: it up a little bit. And that's what they do.

1784
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,759
Speaker 1: It's a different game when they get to the playoffs.

1785
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 2: Well, the playoffs certainly feel that way, right and we

1786
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 2: know that pretty well that they feel much different for

1787
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 2: that reason. It's like it just the NBA playoffs if

1788
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 2: there's a different sport than the regular season.

1789
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,920
Speaker 1: Right now, the question I have for you is, Bruce,

1790
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 1: you or an athlete, always have been, always will be

1791
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,599
Speaker 1: playing in the NFL for eight years. Why do athletes

1792
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 1: seem to get themselves in awkward situations. I'm looking at

1793
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: John Morant, I'm looking at Kyrie Irving, I'm looking at

1794
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: gamblers in the NFL. What happens there? Why do they

1795
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:38,800
Speaker 1: manage to do that? Is it too much free time?

1796
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: Is it the money factor? Is like, you don't know

1797
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,759
Speaker 1: you know who I am? I can't I'm untouchable, nothing's

1798
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: going to happen to me.

1799
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: Well, you think you're invincible as an athlete because you

1800
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 2: sort of have to play that way right and feel

1801
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 2: that way, which obviously you feel that way, doesn't mean

1802
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 2: you're you're gonna always be that way. But again, it's

1803
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 2: worth pointing out that for the most part, a lot

1804
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 2: of athletes do the right thing thing and are great

1805
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 2: people and don't get in trouble and our great fathers

1806
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:09,599
Speaker 2: and husbands and and and and and simbling like they're great.

1807
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 2: They're all those things, you know, all those things are

1808
01:25:11,720 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 2: are are positives of a lot of athletes. We get

1809
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: stuck on John Morant and we get stuck on on

1810
01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:21,120
Speaker 2: other athletes that that have you know, that that make

1811
01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 2: off the field errors and aren't the you know, maybe

1812
01:25:23,960 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 2: the best person. But I just want to highlight that

1813
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 2: any you you know this, for the most part, athletes

1814
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 2: are great people.

1815
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear and look, the ones that get

1816
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: in trouble are the ones that make the news. And

1817
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,800
Speaker 1: that's what we hear about. Those are the newsy ones, right,

1818
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 1: And you're right. They the majority of them don't get

1819
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: in trouble and they do a lot of good and

1820
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,719
Speaker 1: they do good for the community, like a Lebron James

1821
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: and building schools for kids. I mean, most of them

1822
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: do good.

1823
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:49,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1824
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 1: But now there's a story that came out the other day.

1825
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: A boat worker allegedly got slapped by Miami Dolphins wide

1826
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: receiver Tyreek Hill and Tyreek Hill often in two hundred bucks.

1827
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: I mean, really, I don't I don't understand. I mean,

1828
01:26:02,720 --> 01:26:05,839
Speaker 1: how does this stuff happen? He's he's accused of striking

1829
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a boat employee on the neck after illegally boarding a

1830
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 1: charter with a group.

1831
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 2: Uh.

1832
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 1: And Hill said that he told the captain of the

1833
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,000
Speaker 1: charter who has the group, to disembark. I could buy

1834
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: you and I could buy you a boat. That's what

1835
01:26:20,360 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: he'll said, all right, and then the dispute begin to escalate,

1836
01:26:23,479 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: and he slapped him and come on, really not great.

1837
01:26:28,400 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 2: Look, I mean I in the NFL. I imagine he's

1838
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:34,080
Speaker 2: part of me suspended for this, right, I mean it

1839
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 2: this ends up being the way it is again, some

1840
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 2: guys have you have a discontinued pattern? Were they what?

1841
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 2: It's what they continue to do. There's a pattern of behavior.

1842
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 2: But for every incident like this, there's a hundred other

1843
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:50,719
Speaker 2: players that go on boats with no problem.

1844
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,479
Speaker 1: It's amazing. I mean, the dispute begin to escalate, the

1845
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:58,880
Speaker 1: boat worker approached the scene. Uh, the ideal intensified. That's

1846
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: when he'll allegedly he struck the employee on the back

1847
01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,640
Speaker 1: of his head and his neck, and the employee retreated

1848
01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: back to his office, was told by a fisherman. The

1849
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: person who apparently struck him was get this, a very

1850
01:27:11,000 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: famous football player for the Miami Dolphins. Okay, and he'll

1851
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 1: apparently told an associate to offer the boat worker two

1852
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:21,799
Speaker 1: hundred bucks two hundred dollars. I mean, come on, really,

1853
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars.

1854
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:24,760
Speaker 2: They didn't have any cash on him.

1855
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: I just don't get it. And look, I have to

1856
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: ask you this, what is worse betting on a college

1857
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: football game? Well, this incident, I think this is worse.

1858
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm glad you mentioned that, because whenever

1859
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:42,440
Speaker 2: we bring up, you know, the idea of a suspension,

1860
01:27:42,479 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: people point to what DeShawn Watson got right eleven games

1861
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: instead of, you know, for what he has been accused

1862
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 2: of compared to an entire season for wagering on the NFL.

1863
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,360
Speaker 2: And you're absolutely correct, in a vacuum, those doesn't make

1864
01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:59,000
Speaker 2: any sense, right because domestic violence hitting award.

1865
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for the blowing up a football.

1866
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: So those things are obviously much worse in the grand

1867
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: scheme of things in a wagering on sports. Absolutely, But

1868
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:16,360
Speaker 2: the NFL, whether you like this or not, views sports

1869
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:20,840
Speaker 2: wagering as an integrity of the game concern, where when

1870
01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: people watch football, they think to themselves, the integrity of

1871
01:28:24,280 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: the game is compromised because players are wagering on the

1872
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,640
Speaker 2: games right and they don't want any questions about the

1873
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:35,479
Speaker 2: legitimacy of their contest. They don't feel that same way

1874
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:40,280
Speaker 2: for players that have committed or been accused of domestic

1875
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 2: violence or sexual assault, because to them, again this is

1876
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 2: to them, this is not the way I feel. That

1877
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 2: doesn't affect the integrity of the on field product. Now,

1878
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,760
Speaker 2: obviously the integrity of the player comes into question, but

1879
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 2: the actual product, the integrity of the product, is not

1880
01:28:58,439 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: in question because again, when people watch a player play,

1881
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 2: they don't think to themselves, well, the integrity of this

1882
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:12,439
Speaker 2: specific contest is in question, where if you're waging on

1883
01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,960
Speaker 2: the games, fans could think that that right or wrong.

1884
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 2: And that is the reason why the NFL treats those differently.

1885
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: And when I had.

1886
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:25,879
Speaker 1: A commissioner, Roger Goodell say we have to protect the shield,

1887
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: and he comes always and I get it. I understand

1888
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,759
Speaker 1: he's got to do that. Certainly, protecting the shield also

1889
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 1: includes the participants who are part of the shield, and

1890
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,360
Speaker 1: I think this Tyreek Hill. He's part of the shield.

1891
01:29:37,439 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 1: You can't have a guy slapping somebody saying I could

1892
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: buy your boat.

1893
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 2: Come on, I agree with you. I agree with you,

1894
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 2: and no disagreement there, But that's not the way the NFL.

1895
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,360
Speaker 2: The NFL is don't look at it that way.

1896
01:29:49,280 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 1: Okay, domestic violence, I mean still in all you can't

1897
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 1: have quote thugs going around beaten on women and nothing

1898
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: happens to him. You just can't do that. And if

1899
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: it wasn't for a video years ago that running back,

1900
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: yeah right, Ray Rice still probably be playing right.

1901
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. I have no disagreement with you. I'm

1902
01:30:12,479 --> 01:30:14,720
Speaker 2: just telling you how the NFL feels about this and

1903
01:30:14,760 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: why they punish them these things differently, right. You know.

1904
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 2: Also the NFL, I think at times, you know, they

1905
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:25,920
Speaker 2: they punished almost too harshly for some of it is

1906
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:29,400
Speaker 2: that there's really no reason, like there's no they just

1907
01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of punished if you're accused of things.

1908
01:30:31,240 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: At times the situation, I have a.

1909
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: Lot of issues with the way the NFL does things

1910
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 2: with their punishments, whether it's too light for Deshaun Watson

1911
01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:42,639
Speaker 2: or too many games for Tom Brady for the basically

1912
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 2: essentially amounts equipment malfunction. It's not it's not very consistent,

1913
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: but they're consistent with the way they punish players who

1914
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:52,880
Speaker 2: gamble in the game.

1915
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about gambling for a second, and we talked

1916
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,920
Speaker 1: about these four guys who were suspended when one was

1917
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: a waived. What happened a situation if Aaron Rodgers, I'm

1918
01:31:04,520 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: on the I got my phone out, and I see

1919
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers walking into a casino and I take a

1920
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 1: picture of that. Does anything happen to Aaron? You're not

1921
01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 1: supposed to. It's one of the rules.

1922
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:15,760
Speaker 2: No, no, casino, No, no, no, you can't be in a

1923
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 2: sports book. You can be casino, you know you can.

1924
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 1: Okay, So he goes to a sports book.

1925
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 2: You cannot be sitting You're not allowed to sitting in

1926
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Speaker 2: a sports book.

1927
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,040
Speaker 1: All right, So he's in the sports book. I got

1928
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 1: a picture of him on my phone. Because these guys

1929
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:32,519
Speaker 1: that got suspended right now, they're basically no names, They're.

1930
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:34,880
Speaker 2: Going to ask a lot of questions. They're going to

1931
01:31:34,920 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: ask why was he there? Was he wagering on? Was

1932
01:31:37,560 --> 01:31:40,040
Speaker 2: he wager anything? A lot of questions. There'll be a

1933
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 2: lot of questions asked will he be suspended. Would he

1934
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 2: be suspended unless he was if he wasn't wagering on games? No,

1935
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd be suspended. But you're not allowed

1936
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 2: to be in a sports book because again, it gives

1937
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: the appearance, right that you're wagering on the contest.

1938
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: I know what that would happen. To say, it happens

1939
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 1: like the first week of the season, they would have

1940
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: a sentencing for him, but they'll push that back so

1941
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: far they'll push it ato Thanksgiving, Chase, they won't make

1942
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: a decision. That's what they'll do to just table it

1943
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:08,920
Speaker 1: until Thanksgiving.

1944
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:13,400
Speaker 2: Uh probably, yeah, I mean you can, you know you can.

1945
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,240
Speaker 2: You can suspend him long enough to where or really

1946
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,759
Speaker 2: delay the suspension with I mean Tom Brady was basically

1947
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,679
Speaker 2: played an entire season during an appeal, right, he played

1948
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 2: that whole season during an appeal, and he actually set

1949
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 2: out the four games of the following season, So that

1950
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:32,560
Speaker 2: can surely happen that way. But again, play Look, players

1951
01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 2: know the rules. You're not allowed to be in a

1952
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 2: sports book, so don't be in a sports book. Like

1953
01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,040
Speaker 2: it's it's I'm going to Vegas. I think maybe it's September.

1954
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:43,800
Speaker 2: My wife and I talked about this last night. Actually,

1955
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 2: we're gonna go see a concert, possibly in Vegas. Just

1956
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 2: don't go in a sport If I was still a player,

1957
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,599
Speaker 2: I know the rules. Don't go in a sports book.

1958
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 2: It's not gamble all you want, throw dice since you know,

1959
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:03,479
Speaker 2: play roulette, play whatever you want, play blackjack, just don't

1960
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: go in the sports book.

1961
01:33:04,439 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: And I'm sure many players in years past, we're going

1962
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:09,519
Speaker 1: to the sportsbook for March madness. So they can't do

1963
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:10,000
Speaker 1: that now.

1964
01:33:10,920 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: No point, dude, have you ever done that before? It

1965
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 2: is it's exhausting to do it, is you don't want

1966
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:21,639
Speaker 2: to done before. I don't think a lot of players are.

1967
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:24,879
Speaker 2: Well again, they're not doing it because they they be caught.

1968
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So my next question is if the NFL

1969
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,599
Speaker 1: is so down, and I understand why they are again

1970
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:35,759
Speaker 1: against gambling, don't they have a lot of ex players

1971
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: doing promotions on TV for fan duel or everybody else.

1972
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,720
Speaker 1: I guess the NFL can't control that, but it's kind

1973
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: of strange that a former player is doing these commercials.

1974
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,160
Speaker 2: Right, No, because once you're done playing whatever you want.

1975
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:53,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still he's if I'm a player playing in

1976
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,280
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and I see a former player

1977
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 1: on TV telling me to go to fan duel it.

1978
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make any sense. And I know you

1979
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 1: can't do anything about it.

1980
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 2: Again, I made this point right, and you can tell

1981
01:34:05,960 --> 01:34:08,719
Speaker 2: me I'm wrong on this. But if, but if again?

1982
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 2: Is it okay for a player to do a former

1983
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,799
Speaker 2: player to do a sponsorship with a beer company when

1984
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 2: you can't drink in the facility.

1985
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen a form of football player

1986
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:20,960
Speaker 1: do it.

1987
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 2: I mean there's there's just they're just hypothetical.

1988
01:34:24,320 --> 01:34:26,080
Speaker 1: And a snoop dog does that commercials.

1989
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 2: I mean Troy Eichman has his own beer, right so

1990
01:34:28,280 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: he he he does. Players have their own wines, right,

1991
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:33,640
Speaker 2: I mean Drew blood Sell has his own wine. Like

1992
01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: are you is that? Is that a hypocritical thing? I

1993
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,519
Speaker 2: just again, I don't know why it's so hard. A

1994
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:44,400
Speaker 2: company has decided that their their their employees cannot gamble

1995
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: on the sport they play in, Like that seems very

1996
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:48,160
Speaker 2: logical to me.

1997
01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: You know what, You're right, the company makes the rule,

1998
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,479
Speaker 1: they put down the hammer. It'd be like if I

1999
01:34:52,520 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 1: own the McDonald's franchise, I cannot sell a burger on

2000
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 1: the bagel. It's got to be an assisame bun. That's

2001
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 1: the rule you gotta follow. Otherwise don't be a franchise

2002
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 1: e of McDonald's. Right, it's kind of a weird scenario,

2003
01:35:05,560 --> 01:35:08,640
Speaker 1: but it's the same thing. You're part of an organization.

2004
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,680
Speaker 1: You have to follow the rules of the organization.

2005
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't seem very difficult to follow the rules

2006
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 2: like that. Again, the fascination was, it's like, just don't

2007
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: do it, man, just don't gamble on football. How hard?

2008
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:20,680
Speaker 2: How hard can that be?

2009
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,679
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, for some people of this art, it's a disease,

2010
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:26,639
Speaker 1: it really is, you know. And I'm waiting to see

2011
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: the first guy in the NBA get busted, because it's

2012
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: unbelievable to me that not one of them has been

2013
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:37,520
Speaker 1: busted yet for gambling. It's hard to really think about it. Baseball,

2014
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: they've busted people Pete Rose obviously, right. In football, they're

2015
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,360
Speaker 1: doing it left and right. It's a problem in the NFL,

2016
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: and basketball goes Scott free. Doesn't make any sense, crazy, right,

2017
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,400
Speaker 1: it really is. Jeff Schwartz get him on Twitter at

2018
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:54,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz at Andy Furman FSR because somebody who's kind

2019
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,800
Speaker 1: of texting me right now saying he can't get through

2020
01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,880
Speaker 1: I don't know eight seven to seven. Here's the number

2021
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: eight seven seven finety nine on Fox eight seven seven

2022
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: nine six six three sixty nine. We got the blame

2023
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,519
Speaker 1: game at the end of this hour, but a Super

2024
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:13,200
Speaker 1: Bowl champion answers a big question that's next. Did you

2025
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:15,960
Speaker 1: ever wonder about this? Well, that's coming right up. This

2026
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: is Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, he's Jeff Schwartz.

2027
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm Andy Furman. We're alive from the ti iraq dot

2028
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Com studios and rolling along because the blame game is

2029
01:36:25,120 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 1: at the end of this hour, so don't go anywhere.

2030
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: But did you, Jeff Schwartz, ever wonder about teammates or

2031
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:36,639
Speaker 1: how many players in general in the NFL who smoked

2032
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:37,799
Speaker 1: marijuana when you played?

2033
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 2: So it says, I'm I'm glad you mentioned this.

2034
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 1: So you know I am not that you did or did.

2035
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't. I don't mind it many

2036
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 2: if I did or did not, I I only have

2037
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 2: smoked maybe recently, but nonetheless I didn't do any as

2038
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 2: a as a youth. I didn't do any in college,

2039
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 2: even though obviously you know was around no problem with

2040
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:01,640
Speaker 2: any player doing it. Ever, I don't. I don't. I

2041
01:37:01,680 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 2: didn't care. It is what it is. And I got

2042
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,559
Speaker 2: the NFL, and I really didn't. I didn't realize players

2043
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: we were doing it. I wasnive. I wasn't in that culture.

2044
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:15,479
Speaker 2: I did, I didn't smoke weed. All those things are true.

2045
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,839
Speaker 2: And then, you know, as I got older in the NFL,

2046
01:37:18,160 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: I realized that, you know, some of my teammates were

2047
01:37:20,120 --> 01:37:22,320
Speaker 2: doing it, and and I talked to them about it,

2048
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:25,760
Speaker 2: and a lot of them said it was for uh,

2049
01:37:25,800 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 2: for pay management, which better than than pills, right, I mean,

2050
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:33,439
Speaker 2: no one has any problem with with with guys taking

2051
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,599
Speaker 2: obviously pills. If I have to for for pay management,

2052
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 2: this I thought was a much better option. Was was marijuana.

2053
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 2: So I started talking to players about it, started talking

2054
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 2: to uh, you know, and then I learned that, you know,

2055
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,439
Speaker 2: some really good players were doing it for kind of

2056
01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 2: that reason too, to help them feel better in between practices,

2057
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,320
Speaker 2: in between games, after games. It kind of changed my

2058
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:59,760
Speaker 2: opinion about the use of marijuana, and obviously again more

2059
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 2: play as we're doing it that I thought great, better

2060
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:05,559
Speaker 2: than pills.

2061
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,320
Speaker 1: Man, Like you say, you show them after they lit

2062
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: up in the locker room.

2063
01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: If the white home handy come on, I just head home.

2064
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 2: I was doing the locker room at home, and I

2065
01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 2: started researching a little bit more and again talked to

2066
01:38:18,520 --> 01:38:21,280
Speaker 2: my teammates. But now I didn't do it. I probably

2067
01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:23,280
Speaker 2: should have, honestly, at the end of my career and

2068
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 2: my ankle was kind of busted. It would have been nice.

2069
01:38:25,640 --> 01:38:28,639
Speaker 2: I did not like opiod that didn't even take pay medicine.

2070
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:31,960
Speaker 2: After most of my surgeries passed the first couple of days.

2071
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: I just didn't like the feeling of it. I just

2072
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 2: didn't do it, And so I think it would have

2073
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:41,800
Speaker 2: been really good for me to have some marijuana instead.

2074
01:38:42,360 --> 01:38:44,720
Speaker 2: It probably would have helped. It probably would have helped

2075
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,280
Speaker 2: me with pay management. So I kind of disappointed I

2076
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: didn't do it, and I'm glad the NFL basically stopped

2077
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,240
Speaker 2: testing for it, because that's that's a waste of time.

2078
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: And again, two times Super Bowl champion Travis Kelsey he

2079
01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 1: has an answer because he was talking to Vanity Fair magazine.

2080
01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: They interviewed him and he says that he's estimating now

2081
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:04,559
Speaker 1: that anywhere between fifty to eighty percent of NFL players

2082
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 1: use marijuana, and he said the marijuana uses. Obviously, Now

2083
01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:11,200
Speaker 1: he's become legal or maybe decriminalized in an increasing number

2084
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,560
Speaker 1: of states, and the league, as you just mentioned, and

2085
01:39:13,640 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 1: mended its drug testing policy in twenty twenty one to

2086
01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 1: refrain from testing players for THCHC during the offseason, which

2087
01:39:20,720 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: I think is a good idea, all right, So it

2088
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier for players to continue to

2089
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:27,759
Speaker 1: smoke pot, according to Travis Kelsey, and they do. That's fine.

2090
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: I am for this. I think they should, right Yeah.

2091
01:39:32,479 --> 01:39:35,640
Speaker 1: And Kelsey said that if you stop smoking pot in

2092
01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: the middle of July, you're fine. He says, a lot

2093
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 1: of guys stop a week before and they still pass

2094
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,760
Speaker 1: because everybody's working out in the heat and sweating the

2095
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:44,160
Speaker 1: tail off.

2096
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:49,559
Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know the policy now because I

2097
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 2: think it's changed, But it used to be that they

2098
01:39:53,439 --> 01:39:57,400
Speaker 2: would they would start drug testing you in the NFL

2099
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 2: for street drugs. So most offen marijuana the first day

2100
01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:04,920
Speaker 2: of OTA's up until basically the end of training camp,

2101
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:09,160
Speaker 2: and once you got your first test, your only test

2102
01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 2: of the year in you were free and clear to

2103
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 2: smoke weed again for three hundred fixty five tastes to

2104
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 2: your next test. Now, obviously, a lot of guys would

2105
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:21,400
Speaker 2: quit smoking before reporting for the officers in program, so

2106
01:40:21,479 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 2: they got tested the first day. I remember I got

2107
01:40:23,920 --> 01:40:27,280
Speaker 2: tested andy one year, very early in the off season.

2108
01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:29,559
Speaker 2: I offered to like I was I was an offer

2109
01:40:29,600 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: I wasn't allowed. But I would have offered to trade

2110
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 2: with someone who I knew, who I knew wanted the

2111
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 2: tests more than I did, right because they, you know,

2112
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,920
Speaker 2: they they would be hobnoestly clear to to to smoke. Again,

2113
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:42,720
Speaker 2: I didn't need the test. I don't smoke weed, so

2114
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: it felt like I was stealing someone's test, But I

2115
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:47,599
Speaker 2: got tested like the first week of the Officers and program. Again.

2116
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,200
Speaker 2: I mean I could have then smoked weed if I

2117
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:51,720
Speaker 2: wanted to, if I was, if I was into that.

2118
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:56,120
Speaker 2: And so guys, that's what that's what Travis Coussey's talking about,

2119
01:40:56,240 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 2: is that there are guys who who uh uh you know,

2120
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 2: would would quit and then start up. Now performance enhancing drugs,

2121
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 2: year round testing, random, year round testing, so much different

2122
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 2: for that than it is for street drugs.

2123
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 1: Now, this is something that shocked me. In May this

2124
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 1: past May, free agent running back Le'Veon Bell he told

2125
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 1: a podcast still Here that he smoked marijuana before NFL games.

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Speaker 1: He say, looking back at what I did when I

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01:41:25,320 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: was playing football, I smoked even before the games. I smoke,

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01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 1: and I go out there and run for one fifty

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Speaker 1: and two touchdowns. Yeah, it's amazing.

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01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:37,639
Speaker 2: Again, that's on the excessive side of things. But yeah,

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01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: I mean players, obviously, you know, we're like that. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's excessive.

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Speaker 1: I think that's could you tell if a guy, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could, if you, I mean, I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know, I mean if oh oh, yeah, there were guys

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Speaker 2: that would be high at like meetings and stuff and

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Speaker 2: practice and we would, like I remember vividly sometimes telling

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Speaker 2: guys and other you know, as I got older, like

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Speaker 2: come on, like, that's that's excessive.

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Speaker 1: But any big name players, I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to even tell you if there was.

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01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 2: But again, I once I I learned that a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer, one of the best players in the league

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Speaker 2: at the time, was using marijuana as a way to

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01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:27,320
Speaker 2: help him alleviate some pain he had his body after games.

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Speaker 2: That kind of changed my opinion on it because it

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01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: was a player that I looked up to and as

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01:42:33,320 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 2: a player that I trusted their process. It wasn't on

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Speaker 2: my team, it was. It was not on my team,

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Speaker 2: it was someone else around the league. And because again

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01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 2: I had I'm a curious person. I love talking to

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01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:48,479
Speaker 2: my teammates about about things about their lives and whatnot,

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01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 2: and and their customs and traditions and how they prepare.

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01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 2: And again, part of some of that was, you know,

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01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: was smoking some weed. So again, once I found that out,

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01:42:58,080 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 2: it changed my opinion on it a lot.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because Travis Kelcey and I remember when

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Speaker 1: he was playing football at University of Cincinnati in the

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Speaker 1: year twenty ten, he was suspended. It was worth more

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Speaker 1: than this. We'll explain that in just about a minute.

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Speaker 1: and guess what, only sixty seven days I figured this out.

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Speaker 1: I might be wrong. Sixty seven days to the first

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Speaker 1: NFL game.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right. I cannot wait. It is my

2172
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,679
Speaker 2: Chiefs hosting the Lions training camp will be here before

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01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:53,439
Speaker 2: we know it. It is a great and you know,

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Speaker 2: quite like college football, like August twenty sixth, first game

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01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,080
Speaker 2: for college football. It is, it's gonna be here before

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01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 2: we know it. Man, I know, wait, do you have

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Speaker 2: a college football team of choice? Is our favorite you have?

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Speaker 1: You know it's kind of crazy, but I always rooted

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Speaker 1: for Oklahoma State. I don't know why. I lived in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma for a while. I always like going to the

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01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,959
Speaker 1: Cowboy games. I liked. I used to drive out to Stillwater.

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01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 1: I lived in Tulsa, and I drive to Stillwater to

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Speaker 1: see their football games. So kind of like Oklahoma State.

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Speaker 1: But you're now in the Midwest. You know. I look

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State. I follow them, but I don't bleed them.

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Speaker 1: You know, when the scores come out on Saturday night,

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Speaker 1: I usually looked at Oklahoma State first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, didn't expect Oklahoma State to be your

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01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:35,720
Speaker 2: team of choice, but yeah, I mean, I just it's

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01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 2: gonna be here before we know it. And I'm just like,

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Speaker 2: I love football.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy because Oklahoma State in Big twelve. Now Cincinnati

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Speaker 1: isn't a Big twelve. I could see them.

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01:44:44,640 --> 01:44:47,719
Speaker 2: Yes, I am. How did dinner not set with my wife?

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01:44:47,760 --> 01:44:49,280
Speaker 2: And I was and she's like, it's been so nice

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01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:51,719
Speaker 2: to like have more date nights. I'm like, yeah, football's

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01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,320
Speaker 2: coming up, so you know, that was funny. What lasted?

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna happen when football comes up? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying. But you know, it's great.

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01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:04,400
Speaker 1: It gives you something to look forward to. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the way football is is programmed, so to speak, at

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01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 1: least the NFL. You know, you have the Monday night

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01:45:09,479 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 1: game and then after that you have like the Wednesday

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01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,479
Speaker 1: news conference to promote it. It's perfect the way they

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01:45:14,560 --> 01:45:17,120
Speaker 1: do it. Thursday night they play again. It's just a

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01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:19,640
Speaker 1: perfect situation, the way they do it. I mean, no

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01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,320
Speaker 1: other sport has it that way, you know, And I

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01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:25,120
Speaker 1: hope they don't ruin it by putting games on Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: whatever it may be, well Friday.

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Speaker 2: You know, just the thing about the thing about the football,

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01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:35,680
Speaker 2: the reason why it is king is because there is

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01:45:36,200 --> 01:45:40,680
Speaker 2: limited access to games. Right, you have seventeen games on

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01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: the NFL side, and in college football, you have twelve, right, right,

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01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 2: season games, so every game feels like it is the

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01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:52,960
Speaker 2: most important game that you've ever had, and that that

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01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 2: makes it where as a fan, you're like, we can't

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:01,559
Speaker 2: lose this game because especially college football, over right, So

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01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:07,120
Speaker 2: it makes it the inventory amounts makes us as fans

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01:46:07,880 --> 01:46:10,360
Speaker 2: feel way more connected to each and every game. Right.

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01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:12,840
Speaker 2: I watched the Giants play the Mets last night, like

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01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:16,800
Speaker 2: they lost four to one, Right, cool, we'll get them

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow.

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01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: In football, it's just not that way. Man. Every game

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01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:25,479
Speaker 2: feels like it's the most important game ever. And it

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01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:30,559
Speaker 2: makes football, I think, that much more enjoyable to obviously

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Speaker 2: watch and follow, and makes.

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Speaker 1: It in the mindset of the athletes is a lot different.

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Speaker 1: You know, a loss in football is somewhat devastating. We're

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01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: a loss in baseball. I think it's like a las

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01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:41,720
Speaker 1: a fair situation. Well, you know, we we lost to suit.

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Speaker 1: We're playing and begin in August, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: It's just a different attitude.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and so it makes obviously viewing the sport and

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Speaker 2: watching the sports so much different. And I think that's

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Speaker 2: what the urgency of football. It's just there's also just

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01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:56,880
Speaker 2: so much to like break down and talk about each week.

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01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,920
Speaker 2: I mean, are you gonna break every pitch for a

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01:47:00,360 --> 01:47:02,600
Speaker 2: through last night is a casual? Probably not right. And

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Speaker 2: so it's just there's just so much to watch and

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Speaker 2: enjoy of football that you don't get in other sports,

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01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 2: which again I watch other sports. I have no problem

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Speaker 2: other sports. And I just think that that makes them

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01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 2: just a lot different obviously, right.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because you mentioned like the intensity of

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Speaker 1: the athlete. I watched the NBA game. I love the NBA.

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01:47:19,960 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 1: I watched during the season, but they ramp it up

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01:47:22,200 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 1: during the playoffs because obviously, I think they know it.

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Speaker 1: We just want to make the playoffs during the regular season,

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Speaker 1: just to get to the playoffs. Don't get hurt, get

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs, and then we'll rev it up a

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01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:33,639
Speaker 1: little bit. And that's what they do. It's a different

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01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:35,120
Speaker 1: game when they get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Well, the playoffs certainly feel that way, right, and we

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01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 2: know that pretty well that they feel much different for

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Speaker 2: that reason. It's like it just the NBA playoffs. It's

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Speaker 2: a different sport than the regular season. Right now.

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Speaker 1: The question I have for you is, Bruce, you or

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01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,880
Speaker 1: an athlete always have been, always will be playing in

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Speaker 1: the NFL for eight years. Why do athletes seem to

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01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,919
Speaker 1: get themselves in awkward situations? I'm looking at John Morant,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at Kyrie your be, I'm looking at gamblers

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. What happens there? Why do they manage

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01:48:04,560 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 1: to do that? Is it too much free time? Is

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01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 1: it the money factor? Is like, you don't know you

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01:48:08,479 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: know who I am? I can't I'm untouchable, Nothing's gonna

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Speaker 1: happen to me.

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Speaker 2: Well, you think you're invincible as an athlete because you

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01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: sort of have to play that way right and feel

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Speaker 2: that way, which obviously, again you feel that way doesn't

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01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 2: mean you're you're gonna always be that way. But again

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Speaker 2: it's worth pointing out that for the most part, a

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Speaker 2: lot of athletes do the right thing and are great

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Speaker 2: people and don't get in trouble, and our great fathers

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01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 2: and husbands and and and and and simbling like they're great.

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01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 2: They're all those things, you know, all those things are

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Speaker 2: are are positives of a lot of athletes. We get

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01:48:42,720 --> 01:48:46,479
Speaker 2: stuck on John Morant, and we get stuck on on

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01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: other athletes that that have you know that they make

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01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 2: off the field errors and and aren't the you know,

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01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,639
Speaker 2: maybe the best person. But I just want to highlight

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01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 2: that any you you know this, for the most part,

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Speaker 2: athletes are great people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear. And look, the ones that get

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Speaker 1: in trouble are the ones that make the news. And

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01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: that's what we hear about. Those are the newsy ones, right,

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01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: And you're right. The majority of them don't get in

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01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 1: trouble and they do a lot of good and they

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01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,799
Speaker 1: do good for the community, like a Lebron James building

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01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:16,880
Speaker 1: schools for kids. I mean, most of them do good.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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01:49:17,479 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 1: But now there's a story that came out the other day.

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01:49:19,880 --> 01:49:23,719
Speaker 1: A boat worker allegedly got slapped by Miami Dolphins wide

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01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:27,360
Speaker 1: receiver Tyreek Hill, and Tyreek Hill offered them two hundred bucks.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't understand. I mean, how does this

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01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,800
Speaker 1: stuff happens. He's accused of striking a boat employee on

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Speaker 1: the neck after illegally boarding a charter with a group,

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Speaker 1: and Hill said that he told the captain of the charter,

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Speaker 1: who as the group to disembark. I could buy you

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01:49:45,880 --> 01:49:48,240
Speaker 1: and I could buy you a boat. That's what Hill said,

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01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 1: all right, and then began to escalate and he slapped

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Speaker 1: him and come on, really not great.

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Speaker 2: Look, I mean I've been the NFL. I imagine he's

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01:49:59,600 --> 01:50:01,640
Speaker 2: part of suspended for this, right, I mean, if this

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01:50:01,760 --> 01:50:04,519
Speaker 2: ends up being the way it is, again, some guys

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01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: have a discontinued pattern, were they It's what they continue

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01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:12,400
Speaker 2: to do. There's a pattern of behavior. But for every

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01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 2: incident like this, there's one hundred other players that go

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Speaker 2: on boats with no problem.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing. I mean, the dispute began to escalate, the

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Speaker 1: boat worker approached the scene, the ideal intensified. That's when

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Speaker 1: He'll allegedly struck the employee on the back of his

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Speaker 1: head and his neck, and the employee retreated back to

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Speaker 1: his office. Was told by a fisherman the person who

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01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:39,280
Speaker 1: apparently struck him was get this a very famous football

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01:50:39,320 --> 01:50:43,120
Speaker 1: player for the Miami Dolphins. Okay, and He'll apparently told

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Speaker 1: an associate to offer the boat worker two hundred bucks

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01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 1: two hundred dollars. I mean, come on, really, two hundred dollars.

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01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 2: They didn't have any cash on them.

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Speaker 1: I just don't get it. And look, I have to

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Speaker 1: ask you this, what is worse betting on a college

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01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 1: football game? Well, this incident, I think this is worse.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So I'm glad you mentioned that because when

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01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:09,840
Speaker 2: whenever we bring up, you know, the idea of a suspension,

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01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 2: people point to what what Deshaun Watson got right eleven

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01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:14,920
Speaker 2: game instead of, you know, for what he has been

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01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:18,040
Speaker 2: accused of compared to an entire season for wagering on

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01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:22,200
Speaker 2: the NFL, And you're absolutely correct, in a vacuum, those

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01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:26,000
Speaker 2: doesn't make any sense, right because domestic violence, hitting.

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01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 1: Award Tom Brady for the blowing up of football.

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01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:34,720
Speaker 2: So those things are obviously much worse in the grand

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01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:38,600
Speaker 2: scheme of things in a wagering on sports. Absolutely, But

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01:51:38,680 --> 01:51:43,719
Speaker 2: the NFL, whether you like this or not, views sports

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01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:48,200
Speaker 2: wagering as an integrity of the game concern where when

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01:51:48,240 --> 01:51:51,600
Speaker 2: people watch football, they think to themselves, the integrity of

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01:51:51,640 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 2: the game is compromised because players are wagering on the

2337
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:57,960
Speaker 2: games right, and they don't want any questions about the

2338
01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:02,840
Speaker 2: legitimacy of their contest. They don't feel that same way

2339
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:07,639
Speaker 2: for players that have committed or been accused of domestic

2340
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:11,760
Speaker 2: violence or sexual assault because to them, again this is

2341
01:52:11,760 --> 01:52:14,720
Speaker 2: to them, this is not the way I feel. That

2342
01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:19,479
Speaker 2: doesn't affect the integrity of the on field product. Now,

2343
01:52:19,600 --> 01:52:23,120
Speaker 2: obviously the integrity of the player comes into question, but

2344
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,720
Speaker 2: the actual product, the integrity of the product is not

2345
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 2: in question because again, when people watch a player play,

2346
01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:35,560
Speaker 2: they don't think to themselves, well, the integrity of this

2347
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:39,800
Speaker 2: specific contest is in question, where if you're waging on

2348
01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:43,320
Speaker 2: the games, fans could think that that right or wrong.

2349
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:48,679
Speaker 2: And that is the reason why the NFL treats those differently.

2350
01:52:48,920 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 1: And Commissioner Roger Goodell say, we have to protect the shield,

2351
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,479
Speaker 1: and he comes always and I get it. I understand

2352
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:56,439
Speaker 1: he's got to do that.

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01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 2: That's what said.

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01:52:57,240 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 1: Certainly, protecting the shield also includes the participants were part

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01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 1: of the shield. And I think there's Tyreek Hill, He's

2356
01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:06,280
Speaker 1: part of the shield. You can't have a guy just

2357
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: slapping somebody saying I could buy your boat. Come on, I.

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01:53:09,680 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: Agree with you, I agree with you. I have no

2359
01:53:12,120 --> 01:53:14,439
Speaker 2: disagreement there. But that's not the way the NFL. The

2360
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:15,679
Speaker 2: NFL is don't look at it that way.

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01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:21,000
Speaker 1: Okay, domestic violence, I mean still in all you can't

2362
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 1: have quote thugs going around beaten on women and nothing

2363
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,280
Speaker 1: happens to him. You just can't do that. And if

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't for a video years ago, that running back.

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01:53:32,200 --> 01:53:34,719
Speaker 1: Yeah right, Ray Rice still probably be playing right.

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01:53:35,240 --> 01:53:39,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agreed. I have no disagreement with you. I'm

2367
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:42,080
Speaker 2: just telling you how the NFL feels about this and

2368
01:53:42,120 --> 01:53:46,360
Speaker 2: why they punish them these things differently, right. You know.

2369
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 2: Also the NFL, I think at times, you know, they

2370
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:53,439
Speaker 2: punish almost too harshly for some of it says that

2371
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 2: there's really no reason, like there's no they just kind

2372
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,880
Speaker 2: of punish if you're accused of things. At times, I

2373
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:02,960
Speaker 2: have a lot of issues with the way the NFL

2374
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,840
Speaker 2: does things with their punishments, whether it's too light for

2375
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,800
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson or too many games for Tom Brady for

2376
01:54:09,320 --> 01:54:14,960
Speaker 2: their basically essentially mass equipment malfunction. It's not it's not

2377
01:54:15,280 --> 01:54:19,040
Speaker 2: very consistent, but they're consistent with the way they punished

2378
01:54:19,040 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 2: players who gamble in the game.

2379
01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,880
Speaker 1: Let's talk about gambling for a second, and we talked

2380
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: about these four guys that were suspended. One was waived.

2381
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: What happens a situation if Aaron Rodgers, I'm on the

2382
01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 1: I got my phone out and I see Aaron Rodgers

2383
01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:37,600
Speaker 1: walking into a casino and I take a picture of that.

2384
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,960
Speaker 1: Does anything happen to Aaron? You're not supposed to. It's

2385
01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 1: one of the rules.

2386
01:54:40,680 --> 01:54:43,040
Speaker 2: No, no casino, No, no, no, no, you can't be in

2387
01:54:43,040 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 2: a sports book. You can be casino, you know you can.

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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 1: Okay, So he goes to a sports book.

2389
01:54:47,920 --> 01:54:49,360
Speaker 2: You cannot be sitting You're not like it, sitting in

2390
01:54:49,400 --> 01:54:50,000
Speaker 2: a sports book.

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01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,360
Speaker 1: All right, So he's in the sports book. I got

2392
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 1: a picture of him on my phone. Because these guys

2393
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,600
Speaker 1: that got suspended right now, they're basically no names.

2394
01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,320
Speaker 2: They're going to ask a lot of questions. They're gonna

2395
01:55:02,320 --> 01:55:04,640
Speaker 2: ask why why was he there? Was he wagering on?

2396
01:55:04,840 --> 01:55:07,360
Speaker 2: Was he wager anything? A lot of questions will be

2397
01:55:07,360 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: a lot of questions asked. Will he be suspended? Would

2398
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 2: he be suspended unless he was if he wasn't wagering

2399
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:16,400
Speaker 2: on games? No, I don't think he'd be suspended. But

2400
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 2: you're not allowed to be in a sports book because again,

2401
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 2: it gives the appearance that you are wagering on the contest.

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01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: I know what that would happen. To say, it happens

2403
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: like the first week of the season. They would have

2404
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,520
Speaker 1: a sentencing for him, but they'll push that back so

2405
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: far they'll push it at the Thanksgiving because they won't

2406
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:35,080
Speaker 1: make a decision. That's what they'll do to just table

2407
01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: it until Thanksgiving?

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01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 2: Uh probably, yeah, I mean you can you know you could,

2409
01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:44,640
Speaker 2: you could suspend him long enough to where or really

2410
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,120
Speaker 2: delay the suspension with I mean Tom Brady was basically

2411
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:50,080
Speaker 2: played an entire season during an appeal. Right, he played

2412
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 2: that whole season during an appeal, and he actually set

2413
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 2: out the four games of the following season, so that

2414
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:59,879
Speaker 2: can surely happen that way. But again, play Look, players

2415
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 2: know the rules. You're not allowed to be in a

2416
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 2: sports book. So don't be in a sports book like

2417
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:09,400
Speaker 2: it's it's I'm one to Vegas. I think maybe it's September.

2418
01:56:09,600 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 2: My wife and I talked was last night. Actually we're

2419
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna go see a concert possibly in Vegas. Just don't

2420
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:18,360
Speaker 2: go in a sport. If I was still a player,

2421
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:21,960
Speaker 2: I know the rules. Don't go in a sports book.

2422
01:56:22,040 --> 01:56:26,040
Speaker 2: It's not gamble. All you want throw dice, since you know,

2423
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:30,840
Speaker 2: play roulette, play whatever you want, play blackjack, just don't

2424
01:56:30,880 --> 01:56:31,760
Speaker 2: go in the sports book.

2425
01:56:31,800 --> 01:56:34,400
Speaker 1: And I'm sure many players in years past we're going

2426
01:56:34,440 --> 01:56:36,760
Speaker 1: through the sports book for March Madness, so they can't

2427
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:37,560
Speaker 1: do that now.

2428
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:40,480
Speaker 2: No point, dude, have you ever done that? Before it

2429
01:56:40,720 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 2: is it's exhausting to do it, is you you don't

2430
01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:47,400
Speaker 2: want to done it before? I don't. I don't think

2431
01:56:47,400 --> 01:56:50,800
Speaker 2: a lot of players are again, they're they're not doing

2432
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:52,040
Speaker 2: because they be they be caught.

2433
01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:56,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So my next question is if the NFL

2434
01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: is so down, and I understand why they are again

2435
01:57:00,080 --> 01:57:03,160
Speaker 1: against gambling, don't they have a lot of ex players

2436
01:57:03,440 --> 01:57:06,520
Speaker 1: doing promotions on TV for Fan Duel or anybody else.

2437
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,040
Speaker 1: I guess the NFL can't control that, but it's kind

2438
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:13,680
Speaker 1: of strange that a former player is doing these commercials. Right.

2439
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:16,520
Speaker 2: No, because once you're done playing whatever you want.

2440
01:57:16,920 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but still, he's if I'm a player playing in

2441
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,640
Speaker 1: the NFL right now and I see a former player

2442
01:57:22,880 --> 01:57:25,440
Speaker 1: on TV telling me to go to fan Duel, it

2443
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,680
Speaker 1: just it just doesn't make any sense. And I know

2444
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,160
Speaker 1: you can't do anything about it.

2445
01:57:29,200 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 2: But again, I made this point, right, and you can

2446
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 2: tell me I'm wrong on this, But if, but if, again,

2447
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 2: is it okay for a player to do a former

2448
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,160
Speaker 2: player to do a sponsorship with a beer company when

2449
01:57:43,200 --> 01:57:44,400
Speaker 2: you can't drink in the facility.

2450
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:48,400
Speaker 1: I don't think I've seen a former football player.

2451
01:57:48,120 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 2: Doing They're justetic.

2452
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:53,480
Speaker 1: And a snoop dog does the commercials.

2453
01:57:53,600 --> 01:57:55,600
Speaker 2: I mean Troy Eichman has his own beer, right, so

2454
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 2: he he he does. Players have their own wines, right,

2455
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:01,040
Speaker 2: I mean True Blood sell has his own wall. Like

2456
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,600
Speaker 2: are you is that? Is that a hypocritical thing? I

2457
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 2: just again, I don't know why it's so hard. A

2458
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:11,760
Speaker 2: company has decided that their their their employees cannot gamble

2459
01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:14,680
Speaker 2: on the sport they play in. Like that seems very

2460
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 2: logical to me.

2461
01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:18,280
Speaker 1: And you know what, you're right. The company makes the rule,

2462
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:19,880
Speaker 1: they put down the hammer. It'd be like if I

2463
01:58:19,880 --> 01:58:23,400
Speaker 1: own the McDonald's franchise, I cannot sell a burger on

2464
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: a bagel. It's got to be an assistamme bun. That's

2465
01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: the rule. You gotta follow the rules otherwise don't be

2466
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:30,320
Speaker 1: a franchise e of McDonald's.

2467
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 2: Right.

2468
01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 1: It's kind of a weird scenario, but it's the same thing.

2469
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:36,920
Speaker 1: You're part of an organization. You have to follow the

2470
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: rules of the organization.

2471
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't seem very difficult to follow

2472
01:58:41,240 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 2: the rules like that. Again, the fascination was is like,

2473
01:58:43,960 --> 01:58:46,560
Speaker 2: just don't do it, man, just don't gamble on football.

2474
01:58:46,560 --> 01:58:48,040
Speaker 2: How hard can that? How hard can that be.

2475
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, for some people of this art, it's a disease,

2476
01:58:51,400 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 1: it really is, you know. And I'm waiting to see

2477
01:58:54,000 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: the first guy in the NBA get busted because it's

2478
01:58:57,360 --> 01:59:00,000
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable to me that not one of them has

2479
01:59:00,080 --> 01:59:03,720
Speaker 1: been busted yet for gambling. It's hard to really think

2480
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:07,280
Speaker 1: about it. Baseball, they've busted people Pete Rose obviously right.

2481
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: In football, they're doing it left and right. It's a

2482
01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,680
Speaker 1: problem in the NFL, and basketball goes Scott free.

2483
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any sense, crazy, right, it really is.

2484
01:59:16,040 --> 01:59:18,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz get him on Twitter at Jeff Schwartz, at

2485
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: Andy Furman FSR. We've got somebody who's kind of texting

2486
01:59:22,360 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 1: me right now saying he can't get through I don't know.

2487
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:27,200
Speaker 1: Eight seven to seven, here's the number, eight seven seven

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01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:30,960
Speaker 1: ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine six

2489
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,160
Speaker 1: six three sixty nine. We got the blame game at

2490
01:59:34,160 --> 01:59:36,800
Speaker 1: the end of this hour. But a Super Bowl champion

2491
01:59:37,200 --> 01:59:42,200
Speaker 1: answers a big question that's next. Did you ever wonder

2492
01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,640
Speaker 1: about this? Well, that's coming right up. This is Fox

2493
01:59:44,640 --> 01:59:48,240
Speaker 1: Sports Sunday on Fox Sports. Ready, here's Jeff Schwartz. I'm

2494
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,400
Speaker 1: Andy Furman. We're alive from the ti iraq dot com

2495
01:59:50,440 --> 01:59:53,480
Speaker 1: studios and rolling along because the blame game is at

2496
01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 1: the end of this hour, so don't go anywhere. But

2497
01:59:56,360 --> 02:00:01,160
Speaker 1: did you Jeff Schwartz ever wonder about teammates or how

2498
02:00:01,160 --> 02:00:05,400
Speaker 1: many players in general in the NFL who smoked marijuana

2499
02:00:05,400 --> 02:00:06,040
Speaker 1: when you played?

2500
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Speaker 2: So it says, I'm glad, I'm glad you mentioned this.

2501
02:00:10,240 --> 02:00:11,400
Speaker 2: So you know I am not.

2502
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:13,400
Speaker 1: That you did or no, no.

2503
02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:14,960
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I don't mind ad many if I

2504
02:00:14,960 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 2: did or did not. I I only have smoked maybe recently,

2505
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,480
Speaker 2: but nonetheless I didn't do any as a as a youth.

2506
02:00:23,560 --> 02:00:25,560
Speaker 2: I didn't do any in college, even though obviously you

2507
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:27,240
Speaker 2: know I was around. I had no problem with any

2508
02:00:27,280 --> 02:00:30,320
Speaker 2: player doing it. Ever, I don't, I don't, I didn't care.

2509
02:00:30,360 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 2: It's uh, it is what it is. And I got

2510
02:00:34,440 --> 02:00:38,800
Speaker 2: the NFL, and I really didn't. I didn't realize players

2511
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,120
Speaker 2: we were doing it. I was. I wasn't in that culture.

2512
02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:43,720
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't smoke weed. All those things are true.

2513
02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:46,120
Speaker 2: And then you know, as I got older in the NFL,

2514
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 2: I realized that, you know, so my teammates were doing it,

2515
02:00:48,840 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 2: and and I talked to them about it, and a

2516
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,959
Speaker 2: lot of them said it was for uh for pay management,

2517
02:00:55,000 --> 02:00:59,600
Speaker 2: which better than than pills, right, I mean, no one

2518
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:02,680
Speaker 2: has any problem with with with guys taking obviously pills

2519
02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:05,800
Speaker 2: if they have to for for pay management. This I

2520
02:01:05,840 --> 02:01:09,120
Speaker 2: thought was a much better option. Was was marijuana. So

2521
02:01:09,160 --> 02:01:12,080
Speaker 2: I started talking to players about it, started talking to uh,

2522
02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 2: you know, and then I learned that, you know, some

2523
02:01:13,640 --> 02:01:16,160
Speaker 2: really good players were doing it for kind of that reason,

2524
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:20,600
Speaker 2: to to help them feel better in between practices, in

2525
02:01:20,640 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 2: between games after games. It kind of changed my opinion

2526
02:01:23,560 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 2: about the use of marijuana. And obviously, again more players

2527
02:01:28,400 --> 02:01:33,800
Speaker 2: were doing it than I thought. Great better than pills.

2528
02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 1: Man, like you say, you show them they lit up

2529
02:01:37,000 --> 02:01:37,640
Speaker 1: in the locker.

2530
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,440
Speaker 2: Room if the home handy come on, I just at home.

2531
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:44,360
Speaker 2: I was doing the locker room at home, and I

2532
02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 2: started researching a little bit more and again talked to

2533
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,560
Speaker 2: my teammates. But now I didn't do it. I probably

2534
02:01:49,560 --> 02:01:51,520
Speaker 2: should have, honestly, at the end of my career and

2535
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:53,320
Speaker 2: my ankle was kind of busted. It would have been nice.

2536
02:01:53,880 --> 02:01:56,879
Speaker 2: I did not like opioid that didn't even take pay medicine.

2537
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,960
Speaker 2: After most of my surgeries passed, the first couple of

2538
02:02:00,320 --> 02:02:03,760
Speaker 2: I just didn't like the feeling of it. I just

2539
02:02:03,760 --> 02:02:07,400
Speaker 2: didn't do it, And so I think it would have

2540
02:02:07,400 --> 02:02:09,800
Speaker 2: been really good for me to have some marijuana instead.

2541
02:02:10,600 --> 02:02:13,080
Speaker 2: It probably would have helped. It probably would have helped me

2542
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:16,080
Speaker 2: with paymatch. So kind of disappointed I didn't do it,

2543
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:19,160
Speaker 2: and I'm glad the NFL basically stopped testing for it

2544
02:02:19,200 --> 02:02:20,440
Speaker 2: because that's a waste of time.

2545
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:23,720
Speaker 1: I get two times Super Bowl champion Travis Kelcey. He

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Speaker 1: has an answer because he was talking to Vanity Fair magazine.

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Speaker 1: They interviewed him and he says that he's estimating now

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Speaker 1: that anywhere between fifty to eighty percent of NFL players

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Speaker 1: use marijuana. And he said the marijuana uses obviously now

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Speaker 1: he's become legal or maybe decriminalized in an increasing number

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Speaker 1: of states. And the league, as you just mentioned, and

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Speaker 1: mended its drug testing policy in twenty twenty one to

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Speaker 1: refrain from testing players for THCHC during the offseason, which

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Speaker 1: I think is a good idea. All right, So it

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Speaker 1: makes it a lot easier for players to continue to

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Speaker 1: smoke pot, according to Travis Kelsey, and they do that's fine.

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Speaker 2: I am for this.

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Speaker 1: I think they should, right Yeah, and Kelsey said that

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Speaker 1: if you stopped smoking pot in the middle of July,

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Speaker 1: you'll find he says, a lot of guys stop a

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Speaker 1: week before, and it's still passed because everybody's working out

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Speaker 1: in the heat and sweating the tail off.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I don't know the policy now because I

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02:03:17,840 --> 02:03:21,640
Speaker 2: think it's changed, But it used to be that they

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Speaker 2: would they would start drug testing you in the NFL

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Speaker 2: for street drugs, so most often marijuana the first day

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Speaker 2: of OTA's up until basically the end of training camp.

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Speaker 2: And once you got your first test, your only test

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Speaker 2: of the year in you were freeing clear to smoke

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Speaker 2: wheed again for three hundred fxty five days to your

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Speaker 2: next test. Now, obviously a lot of guys would quit

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Speaker 2: smoking before reporting for the officers in program, so they

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Speaker 2: got tested the first day. I remember I got tested

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Speaker 2: andy one year, very early in the off season. I

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Speaker 2: offered to like I was I was. An offer wasn't allowed,

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Speaker 2: but I would have offered to trade with someone who

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Speaker 2: I knew, who I knew wanted the tests more than

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Speaker 2: I did, right because they, you know, they would be

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Speaker 2: hobnestly clear to to to smoke again. I didn't need

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Speaker 2: the test like I don't smoke weed, so it felt

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Speaker 2: like I was stealing someone's test. But I got tested

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Speaker 2: like the first week the officers in program. Again, I

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Speaker 2: mean I could have then smoked weed if I wanted to,

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Speaker 2: if I was, I was into that. And so guys,

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Speaker 2: that's what That's what Travis Keusey's talking about, is that

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02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 2: there are guys who who uh you know, would would

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Speaker 2: quit and then start up. Now performance enhancing drugs, year

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Speaker 2: round testing, random, year round testing, so much different for

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Speaker 2: that than it is for street drugs.

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Speaker 1: Now, this is something that shocked me. In May. This

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Speaker 1: past May, free agent running back Le'Veon Bell he told

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Speaker 1: a podcast steal Here that he smoked marijuana before NFL games. Say,

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Speaker 1: looking back at what I did when I was playing football,

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Speaker 1: I smoked even before the games. I smoke and I

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Speaker 1: go out there, I'd run for one fifty and two touchdowns. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's on the excessive side of things. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean players, obviously, you know we're like that. Again,

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Speaker 2: that's excessive.

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Speaker 1: I think that's could you tell if a guy, I

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Speaker 1: guess you could, if you, I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, yeah, there were guys that would be

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Speaker 2: high at like meetings and stuff and practice and we would,

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Speaker 2: like I remember vividly sometimes telling guys and other you know,

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Speaker 2: as I got older, like you come on, come on,

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Speaker 2: like that's that's excessive.

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Speaker 1: But any big name players.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to even tell you if there was.

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Speaker 2: But again I once I I learned that a Hall

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Speaker 2: of Famer, one of the best players in the league

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Speaker 2: at the time, was using marijuana as a way to

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Speaker 2: help him alleviate some pain he had his body after games.

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Speaker 2: That kind of changed my opinion on it because it

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Speaker 2: was a player that I looked up too and as

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Speaker 2: a player that I trusted their.

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Speaker 1: Pro team at the time.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't on my team. It was not on my team.

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Speaker 2: It was someone else around the league. Because again I

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Speaker 2: had I'm a curious person. I love talking to my

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Speaker 2: teammates about things about their lives and whatnot, and their

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Speaker 2: customs and traditions and how they prepare and get it.

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Speaker 2: Part of some of that was, you know, was smoking

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Speaker 2: some weed. So again, once I found that out, it

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Speaker 2: changed my opinion on it a lot.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because Travis Kelcey and I remember when

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Speaker 1: he was playing football at university of Cincinnati. In the

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Speaker 1: year twenty ten, he was suspended for the entire season

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Speaker 1: after he tested positive for marijuana. Yes, so it's funny.

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Speaker 2: Times are different now right that what never happened now right?

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Speaker 1: Unreal? It really is. That's interesting though, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: This guy may be a champ on the field, but

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Speaker 1: off the field, that's another story. But next Kevin Wired

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Speaker 1: with all your sports.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, busy day yesterday, both in baseball and in the

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02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:06,880
Speaker 4: NBA free agency beginning on July first, as de Monte

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02:07:06,920 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 4: Sebonis ESPN reporting he got a five year contract, a

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02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 4: new contract with the Sacramento Kings. They resign him and

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02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 4: it's worth up to two hundred million dollars. Blamelo Ball

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Speaker 4: getting a massive extension the rookie maximum. It's a five

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Speaker 4: year deal. D'Angelo Russell going back to the Lakers on

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Speaker 4: a two year deal that includes a player option. Austin

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02:07:27,480 --> 02:07:31,280
Speaker 4: Reeves getting a four year contract. Russell westbrook Is going

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02:07:31,320 --> 02:07:33,800
Speaker 4: back to La the Clippers, resigning him for a year

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Speaker 4: plus a player option. Dylan Brooks getting his bag four

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Speaker 4: year deal eighty million dollars. So I guess that chirpen

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Speaker 4: to Lebron after that that playoff series didn't really hurt

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Speaker 4: him too much at least financially. Milwaukee bringing back brook

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02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:52,360
Speaker 4: Lopez two years forty eight million dollars are also adding

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Speaker 4: Jay Crowder as well. This comes after they brought back.

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Speaker 1: Your wager on your career by doing that, that's what Also,

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02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:01,280
Speaker 1: just like play.

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02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:03,680
Speaker 2: You're already getting paid to play and win. Why would

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02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:06,360
Speaker 2: you need to wager on the game too? That would

2655
02:08:06,440 --> 02:08:09,400
Speaker 2: suck to lose a game and also lose a wager

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02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:10,520
Speaker 2: on the game that you've lost.

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Speaker 1: I don't get it. I really don't get it. But again,

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Speaker 1: you know, Eddie makes good sense that you know you

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02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:17,760
Speaker 1: could always give it to a friend to.

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Speaker 2: Do it for you.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna happen, that will happen you.

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02:08:22,280 --> 02:08:26,880
Speaker 2: You can, okay, if if if if A drug is illegal, okay,

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02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:29,720
Speaker 2: but you can still get it somewhere and take it.

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02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 2: Should we have no should we have no laws against

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02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:34,000
Speaker 2: right against using that drug.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a curfew of the NFL, guy

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02:08:36,360 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 1: sneak out of curfew too. It happens. There's a rule

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Speaker 1: and rules that made to be broken. I hate to

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02:08:41,440 --> 02:08:42,080
Speaker 1: say it, but they.

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Speaker 2: Are, yes, and so I am just I'm not the

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02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 2: opinion that that you can you should have no rules

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02:08:49,280 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 2: because someone might break down every now and.

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Speaker 1: Then, right, I mean, look, you're not supposed to drink

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02:08:53,800 --> 02:08:55,440
Speaker 1: and dry. Should we not have a lot of people

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02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,040
Speaker 1: do drink and drive, So should we not have a

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02:08:57,080 --> 02:08:59,080
Speaker 1: rule about it? And we do have a rule. We

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02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 1: try to contain it, control it. But a lot of

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02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,040
Speaker 1: people do drink and drive. And you know it happens

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02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:06,600
Speaker 1: if people get killed because they're drinking and driving.

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02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and so I never I just have never bought

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02:09:11,040 --> 02:09:11,960
Speaker 2: that argument, knock at all.

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Speaker 1: I just never bought that anything else, Eddie, because you

2683
02:09:14,960 --> 02:09:19,360
Speaker 1: lost on this argument. You lost. He's gone. See when

2684
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,920
Speaker 1: people lose, they go away. That's what they do, all right.

2685
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:26,080
Speaker 1: Jeff Schwartz, Andy Furman, Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio.

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02:09:26,480 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: It's finger pointing time. Why the blame game is next?

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02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 1: The blame game coming right up? A little Stevie wonder

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02:09:34,240 --> 02:09:37,200
Speaker 1: taboot Audi like that. This is Fox Sports Sunday on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. He's Jeff Schwartz and Andy Furman. I

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Speaker 1: want to lie from the tire rot dot Com studios

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Speaker 1: and before we get started. I want to let you

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Speaker 1: know that I have a little bit of a blame

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Speaker 1: for you there, bigie. Are you ready, Ethan? All right?

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Speaker 1: I'm blaming the Cincinnati Reds baseball team because you know,

2695
02:09:52,280 --> 02:09:55,160
Speaker 1: here's the setup. The Cincinnati Reds Great American Ballpark is

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Speaker 1: right next door to pay Court Stadium, where the Bengals play,

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Speaker 1: and on Friday nights at home games have fireworks. The

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02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:04,800
Speaker 1: Reds had fireworks going on while Taylor Smith was singing

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02:10:04,920 --> 02:10:08,040
Speaker 1: on Friday night. That's not right, that's not a good thing.

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Speaker 2: They moved the game up, I heard right, to make

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Speaker 2: sure they can accommodate the raft.

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Speaker 1: They moved the game up at five o'clock. But they

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Speaker 1: still have the fireworks. And people who I know were

2704
02:10:16,240 --> 02:10:18,920
Speaker 1: at the concert said they heard the fireworks going off

2705
02:10:18,960 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 1: a pay Court Stadium while Taylor Swift was singing. And

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02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 1: the Reds could have really just stopped the fireworks. Really

2707
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:26,880
Speaker 1: really not right.

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Speaker 2: You want you want you want to hear? You want

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02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:32,120
Speaker 2: to hear a fourth of July ten people don't like, yes,

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02:10:33,560 --> 02:10:35,200
Speaker 2: fireworks a little overrated.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: I think that they're great on fourth if they if

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02:10:40,360 --> 02:10:43,040
Speaker 2: they were just on fourth of July and just on

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02:10:43,080 --> 02:10:47,960
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve. Great, but they're every freaking like one

2715
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Speaker 2: baseball win, eat a whole fireworks to go off. No, no,

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02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:53,720
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of that. But not a fan

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02:10:53,760 --> 02:10:54,000
Speaker 2: of that.

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Speaker 1: People love them, you know, that's the selling point. They

2719
02:10:56,280 --> 02:10:59,160
Speaker 1: look that and bubbleheads. Those are the two things people love.

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02:10:59,200 --> 02:11:03,960
Speaker 2: Like this, right, you get Fourth of July fireworks. Awesome

2721
02:11:04,440 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 2: if it's just on fourth of July. But the problem

2722
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 2: is it's not on fourth of July. It's win one

2723
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:16,200
Speaker 2: baseball game, fireworks, score touchdown fireworks. It's too much, too.

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02:11:16,040 --> 02:11:18,920
Speaker 1: Much, right, you know, less is more? There you go,

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02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,200
Speaker 1: All right, let's play the playing game the man who

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02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:23,520
Speaker 1: does it all? Come on, let's play you ruin me.

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02:11:23,720 --> 02:11:27,480
Speaker 1: It's all your fault. No, it's your fault, it's all

2728
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:34,920
Speaker 1: your fault. It's your fault. Maybe it's everyone's faults. A liar,

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02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 1: that's why there's the blame game game. Let's figure out

2730
02:11:38,320 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: who to blame. Let's blame the big a Ethan Miller

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02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:42,320
Speaker 1: blaming you.

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Speaker 3: You guys like that intro not bad, huh? I love

2733
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 3: from our imaging team killing it all? Right, here we go,

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02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:55,720
Speaker 3: Let's continue the conversation. Gambling seems to become It actually

2735
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:58,400
Speaker 3: is extremely easy for players. And you know, like our

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02:11:58,480 --> 02:12:01,800
Speaker 3: last caller was talking about polls. So who's to blame

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02:12:01,880 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 3: for all these loopholes within gambling? And give me your

2738
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Speaker 3: final piece.

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02:12:06,160 --> 02:12:11,520
Speaker 2: On it, life, What do you mean? It's it's like

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02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:16,440
Speaker 2: should okay? Should we? Now? Obviously this is can we

2741
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:18,440
Speaker 2: can spin this off in many different ways. But let's

2742
02:12:18,440 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 2: say there's there's there's a drug that is illegal okay

2743
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:24,800
Speaker 2: in this country. It's an illegal drug? Should you make

2744
02:12:24,840 --> 02:12:27,920
Speaker 2: it legal because you can still get it? If even

2745
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:30,960
Speaker 2: if it's illegal? The throw hands up? You know what? No,

2746
02:12:31,160 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 2: you know what, never mind, never mind, drug is fully

2747
02:12:34,360 --> 02:12:36,680
Speaker 2: legal because you can still get it if you want it.

2748
02:12:37,160 --> 02:12:39,440
Speaker 2: Like that, that's the argument here, right, you know what,

2749
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 2: screw it. You can still gamble behind the scenes if

2750
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:44,920
Speaker 2: you want to. You know what, no gambling policy for all.

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02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:52,160
Speaker 1: No, No, it's the Brits England. They've gambling for years.

2752
02:12:52,560 --> 02:12:55,800
Speaker 2: We would screw screw you Brits.

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02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:59,360
Speaker 1: There you go right, blame it on them, they started it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just a hypothetical question, and whatever. I guess we're

2755
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Speaker 3: never going to get a hand on the gambling thing.

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Speaker 2: Yes we are, just don't gamble, not hard. It's not hard.

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Speaker 2: We have a policy it's very easy to follow if

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02:13:10,120 --> 02:13:13,280
Speaker 2: the NFL player don't gamble in the NFL. Pretty simple,

2759
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:15,600
Speaker 2: very easy policy. Just don't do it.

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02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:21,040
Speaker 3: Right here you go, all right onto this baseball, this

2761
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 3: MLB thing we call the Mets are underperforming this season,

2762
02:13:25,720 --> 02:13:29,120
Speaker 3: extremely bad. New York is up in hands, They're going crazy.

2763
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:33,080
Speaker 3: Who's to blame for this franchise in shambles?

2764
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:37,880
Speaker 1: Obviously Steve Coney spent the money and also rans guys

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02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:41,640
Speaker 1: who would passed that prime past? It just a Verdland

2766
02:13:41,800 --> 02:13:44,320
Speaker 1: past his prime. Sure's the past his prime?

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02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:47,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that it's it's just a you know

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02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:51,280
Speaker 2: the way Cohen has. You know, you have to build

2769
02:13:51,320 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 2: a team from you know, inside out right. You need

2770
02:13:53,960 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 2: to get that farm system. You need to be able to,

2771
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,360
Speaker 2: you know, to to build that core base. And yeah,

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02:14:01,360 --> 02:14:04,520
Speaker 2: they have some young players. You know, Ladoras is sort

2773
02:14:04,520 --> 02:14:07,880
Speaker 2: of I think, still pretty young, but like they have

2774
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:10,480
Speaker 2: some some you know, Pete Alonzo, there's some bass players

2775
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:13,720
Speaker 2: that are younger. But you guys come up through your

2776
02:14:13,720 --> 02:14:14,280
Speaker 2: farm system.

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02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:14,480
Speaker 4: Man.

2778
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:17,080
Speaker 1: And does Peter A. Lonzo have any other word in

2779
02:14:17,080 --> 02:14:20,160
Speaker 1: this vocabulary besides the F bomb? Really?

2780
02:14:20,160 --> 02:14:21,760
Speaker 2: Who Steve Cohen, No.

2781
02:14:22,080 --> 02:14:25,960
Speaker 1: Peter Alonzo, Oh, he has to drop the F bomb.

2782
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Speaker 1: I don't get it, really, but I'm not approved, you know,

2783
02:14:29,160 --> 02:14:30,640
Speaker 1: I just don't think that should be done on TV.

2784
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:34,040
Speaker 1: That's okay unless you're watching HBO.

2785
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:36,320
Speaker 5: All right.

2786
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:40,400
Speaker 3: I'm looking at this contract, this Savana's contract, and it's

2787
02:14:40,480 --> 02:14:42,000
Speaker 3: for five years, two hundred.

2788
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,200
Speaker 5: And seventeen dollars.

2789
02:14:45,520 --> 02:14:47,640
Speaker 3: Like I'm not a hater, Like good for him, Like

2790
02:14:47,680 --> 02:14:50,480
Speaker 3: good for these athletes. Like if you can get the money, like,

2791
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:55,000
Speaker 3: good for you. But like who is the blame for

2792
02:14:55,400 --> 02:14:57,440
Speaker 3: these ridiculous contracts?

2793
02:14:57,480 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 5: Like remember, they're just they're just they're just at It's

2794
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:00,760
Speaker 5: like we got.

2795
02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:03,840
Speaker 3: People solving, like you know, big problems in the world

2796
02:15:03,880 --> 02:15:05,720
Speaker 3: are not even getting get any more than the president.

2797
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean I was a blame. I mean it's just it's.

2798
02:15:11,640 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 1: Some stillness the way of the world.

2799
02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:17,560
Speaker 2: People watching, people watch sports, and that money goes to players.

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02:15:17,600 --> 02:15:18,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what to tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I had a friend, I mean,

2802
02:15:21,200 --> 02:15:23,520
Speaker 1: God rest his soul. He passed. His name was Milk

2803
02:15:23,600 --> 02:15:25,720
Speaker 1: kent Or lived in Dayton. He told me. In nineteen

2804
02:15:25,760 --> 02:15:28,080
Speaker 1: sixty seven he went to about it Detroit Pistons for

2805
02:15:28,200 --> 02:15:32,280
Speaker 1: six million six million to buy a Detroit Pistons. Now

2806
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:33,960
Speaker 1: six million. You can't get a ticket.

2807
02:15:33,680 --> 02:15:34,160
Speaker 2: To a game.

2808
02:15:34,520 --> 02:15:36,360
Speaker 1: Last night, I think it was five thousand. They got

2809
02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:40,320
Speaker 1: a ticket to Taylor Swift. It's unbelievable. Really, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Agree, amazing, it really is. That's the

2811
02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:47,600
Speaker 1: way it is, though, really, you know, supplying demand, that's it.

2812
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:48,920
Speaker 2: What are you gonna do?

2813
02:15:49,360 --> 02:15:50,560
Speaker 1: What's next? What's next?

2814
02:15:50,640 --> 02:15:53,880
Speaker 5: Come on, Ethan, you know I'm not gonna lie. That

2815
02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:54,920
Speaker 5: was it for me today.

2816
02:15:55,320 --> 02:15:58,080
Speaker 1: Really, you tell you you sound a little tired. I am,

2817
02:15:58,240 --> 02:16:01,080
Speaker 1: you know, little earlier, man, I know, well.

2818
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:01,920
Speaker 5: There's no bad time.

2819
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:04,800
Speaker 3: But regardless that, you know, it gets gotta drink more

2820
02:16:04,840 --> 02:16:06,400
Speaker 3: water these days, everybody.

2821
02:16:06,120 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 1: Weather coffee, coffee.

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02:16:08,200 --> 02:16:09,200
Speaker 5: Water, hydra.

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02:16:09,880 --> 02:16:12,440
Speaker 1: Alright, there you go. Damn. Bire's coming up right around

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02:16:12,440 --> 02:16:14,560
Speaker 1: the bend. Stay with him, have a great day. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next week. Jeff, God bless you. On Fox

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