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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George nor

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Speaker 1: with you, Alan Steinfeld with us. He's an explorer of

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Speaker 1: consciousness and for more than thirty years he has hosted

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Speaker 1: and produced a weekly television series called New Realities in

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Speaker 1: the City of New York. Additionally, sixty eight thousand subscribers

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Speaker 1: to his YouTube channel of the same name. There have

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Speaker 1: been more than twenty million viewers who have seen his programs,

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Speaker 1: and these include interviews with luminaries in the field of

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Speaker 1: Ramdas and just about every major UFO researcher in the field.

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Speaker 1: He informs millions about human potential, remote viewing, the nature

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Speaker 1: of alien contact, and has had years he has mc

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Speaker 1: the largest UFO event in the country called Contact in

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Speaker 1: the Desert, which I go to annually. Allen, welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the program. Well, thank you, George, and thank you

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Speaker 1: for all that you're for making contact. And actually George

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Speaker 1: wrote the forward to the book, which is really a

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Speaker 1: big plus for your fans and for the whole field

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Speaker 1: that you've opened up so I appreciate everything you've done.

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Speaker 1: Alan very honored to be able to do that. It's

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Speaker 1: a great book and we're going to dive into it

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Speaker 1: in a big way. Are you going to be at

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Speaker 1: Contact in the Desert in June? It's going to be

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Speaker 1: zoomed this year. I'm going to be on there. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to be interviewing some of the speakers. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be hosting some panels. And too bad we can't

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Speaker 1: hang out in person. But it'll be back. It will

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Speaker 1: be back, it'll happen. I miss these days, though, don't you. Oh? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, make Contact in the Desert is probably the

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Speaker 1: funnest event. There's a feeling of love and companionship and mutuality.

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Speaker 1: There's a real coming together of the UFO community and

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Speaker 1: exchange of ideas, and I really do miss it. It's

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Speaker 1: my favorite event. So, by the way, your book is great.

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Speaker 1: There are thousands of UFO books out there. You tell

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Speaker 1: us what makes yours a little different? Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone has their own idea about what's going on and

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Speaker 1: the truth is, and we'll get into what the government

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Speaker 1: knows or doesn't know. I think we need a kind

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Speaker 1: of a collection of opinions. I mean, you do this

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Speaker 1: Howe Whitley Strieber, an essay by John Mack and they're

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Speaker 1: an unpublished essay, and put them all in a sequence

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Speaker 1: where they go from the external the exo Terek with

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Speaker 1: Nick Pope understanding why governments aren't telling us what's going on,

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Speaker 1: to the internal conscious awareness of the situation. I've created

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Speaker 1: a narrative of eleven different essays that go from the

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Speaker 1: external to the internal. So I think that's different because

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Speaker 1: I leave it up to the reader to form their

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Speaker 1: own opinions. So I present them with all these possibilities,

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Speaker 1: and like, you know, because you've been doing this every night,

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Speaker 1: no one has the old truth. But what if we

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Speaker 1: see what this phenomena is really about. I think the

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Speaker 1: and in a way unfathomability of the UFO phenomena. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I look at it as a big puzzle, and all

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Speaker 1: until everybody gets together and puts the pieces down. That's right,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly right. And you know what the government whatever's

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Speaker 1: what's been the confusion, that's what's been the wall of

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Speaker 1: we can talk about which reality this really existing? Absolutely Allen,

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Speaker 1: how did you get involved in this this entire field. Well,

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Speaker 1: the researchers and investigators to the abductees and the experiencers.

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Speaker 1: So I've fallen to the abductee category. But before I

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Speaker 1: He's had every event. And then I started putting two

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Speaker 1: And then it took actually creating this book with eleven

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Speaker 1: I still want to understand who these things are, how

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Speaker 1: Since you've been doing this, have you checked into this

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Speaker 1: And another reason for that is that they don't know.

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Speaker 1: And that's what's so great about your program, George. You're

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Speaker 1: And that's how this gains momentum bringing it to the people. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's a great book. It's a compilation of special stories

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Speaker 1: And like I said, it goes from Nick, who's probably

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Speaker 1: This is and we're getting so close, George, to something

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Speaker 1: What's going on? It's it's a mystery. And it's easy

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Speaker 1: That's really what the book goes into. How ets somehow

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Speaker 1: What is it that we that we are that needs

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Speaker 1: How does our consciousness really seem to be non local?

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Speaker 1: And there's a whole quantum physics understanding to the phenomena

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Speaker 1: I've learned this from Russell Targ. Russell Targ says, look

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Speaker 1: for the signal. Feel the signal, not the noise of

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Speaker 1: But yet these beings, whoever they are, whatever they are,

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