1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We have the 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: pleasure of talking to Rod Woodson, former Raven safety and 3 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the thirty thirty ESPN documentary documentary 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: The Bullies of Baltimore, which Rod was a main character 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: in that. So thanks for joining us, Rod, Uh first 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: question for you is is you know what was it 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: like being part of this? It was it was really 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: taped during a championship celebration when you know it was 9 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: a reunion of that Super both thirty five team. Just 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: what was that whole process and that night like for you? 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean, it's always good to get back with your buddies, 12 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: especially you know, a team that win the Super Bowl. Um, 13 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: you know, you you build those those friendships, and uh, 14 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: you always enjoy when we come back together and kind 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: of talk about not just that year, but the years 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 1: after years before. Any time we can get together and 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: talk to the guys, it's always a good time. Now, 18 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: that team was full huge personalities and that comes across 19 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: in the documentary and it's just fun to kind of 20 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: see that some of these old cliffs and and how 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: brash that team was. Now you kind of seem like 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: you're a little bit more like of a of a 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: chill approach, you know, like some of these guys are 24 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: brash in your face and you don't seem like that. 25 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: You're that type of dude. So how did you fit 26 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: in with all that going on? Or was there more 27 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: to that when you were a player? Tell me about that. No, 28 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 1: I mean it's yeah, I'm more laid back. Um, I'm 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: not a real talker. I'm not. I'm not gonna give 30 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: you a lot of headlines and highlights in the sense of, uh, 31 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: you know one liners. I just got out and play. 32 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm a blue collar I put it this, I'm a 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: blue collar football player, just played in the Midwest that 34 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: moved over to Baltimore for a little bit. But you 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: know the way I fit in with the group though 36 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: as a whole, which really started before the Super Bowl, 37 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: so it started my first year there and ninety eight. 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: When I come in, I meet ray Lewis who's a 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: young pup and talking to him and telling him, you know, 40 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: it's got to be more and you know, just making tackles. 41 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: You know, we've gotta be bigger and better than that. 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: And you know, how do we do that as a group? 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: We collectively, we've got to do that, you know. You know, 44 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Ray was you know, all the players, Ray was their contemporary, right, 45 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: so they would listen to Ray where they looked at 46 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: me and they saw Grandpa Paul like, okay, this is 47 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, I remember first coming to the the locker room 48 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and nine and they're like, hey, man, I played with 49 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: you on Techmobile. I'm like, okay, I know, I'm old. 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: I know I'm so you know. And then I had 51 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: one of the players even called me Mr Woodson. I'm like, hey, 52 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 1: that's my daddy. So but you know, but I blended 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: in a sense that to bring some stability, uh, some 54 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: calmness to the group. But it's always fun to listen 55 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: to the guys who did have that life in them. 56 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: You know, we're Goose and Channing and Ray, all those 57 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: guys that had that type of life in them. You know, 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: those make the locker room. Those make the fun times 59 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Um, you know, it makes it 60 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 1: worth it because being in the locker room with fifty 61 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: three men for five months, there's no other place on 62 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: earth like it than especially this chemistry. Well especially in 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: that locker room. And each locker room has his own 64 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: special qualities, right, um. And it was fun to see it, 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, grow throughout the years, and in that year 66 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: was just a special year because everything came together for 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: the defense. Uh you know, offense had the struggles, but 68 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: we never splintered as a football team. And that's what 69 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: made it really really special. It's funny, right, I had 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: in my notes here that it seemed like you were 71 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: the dad of the defense. And you're saying you were 72 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: called the granddad of the defense. Yes, I went over. 73 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: Well that's what they called the old guys, right, no 74 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: guys in the locker room or Grandpapa's right. So and 75 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: I was that, you know, I remember Marvin calling me 76 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: and said, hey man, we got a really young, talented 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: football team. Um, we just need somebody to teach them 78 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: what it looks like to win. And at that point, 79 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: I never won a Super Bowl, but I was, you know, 80 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: I was doing everything that I could to be the 81 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: best player I could be every single year. Um. And 82 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: then coming over there, you know, seeing where the growth 83 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: need to happen and talking to Ray about it and 84 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: telling Ray, hey man, you're gonna be the one who 85 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: kind of implements the whole thing, and phases and phase 86 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: one we had to try to give him a buy 87 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: into having Friday meetings with you know, just with the 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: team or just with the players, no coaches giving us 89 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: the script, letting us go through a whole game, letting 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: us talk about how we're gonna see the game being 91 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: played out because the coaches, the coaches are conductors, the 92 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: players are the actors. Right, they're gonna make it come alive. 93 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: So seeing that come to life and then and then 94 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: everything kind of clicked in two thousand where everybody bought in, 95 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: everybody did what was asked of them. We still had 96 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: fun because it is a game, so you should have 97 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: fun in a game. But how it all came together, 98 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: and to see how the personalities kept coming out each 99 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: phase of it, and it never you know, which made 100 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: it even funner because you know, Goose was always Goose, 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: Shannon was always Shannon. It doesn't matter who they were 102 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: talking to. Ray was always going to be Ray. So 103 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: having those guys there and seeing them kind of go 104 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: at it at time was especially Salmon and Goose, but Ray, 105 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, Ray having his little quirky little things that 106 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: he liked to do. It was fun to watch him 107 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: and it was. It was really a year that I 108 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: will never forget. Now. In the documentary, they played a 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: little match game game with Brian Billick and they said 110 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: the queue for you all was that Brian Billick, he 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: sure is a blank. Shannon's answer to that was no 112 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: at all. Goose said, painting the ass and we have 113 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: to be able to curse a little bit on this 114 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: or you're not able to tell the story of document him. 115 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: Your answer was winner for Brian Billy. So that led 116 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: me to the question of Rod, were you the butt 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: kisser of the two thousand Ravens? No, No, I wasn't 118 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: a but kissing. I would give I would give Brian 119 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: a hard time. I had to bring again on the stage. 120 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: I had to bring balance right right, right right. So 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: you got to have balance. You have to have balance 122 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: inside of a team, so somebody has to do it. 123 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: Everybody can't be crazy, and everybody's crazy. We're going off 124 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: on the deep end, you know. But what I loved 125 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: about first of all, what I loved about Brian. Brian 126 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: treated us like men. We can't have bet check and 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: I when we first came in and said we're gonna 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: be check, I'm like, what I'm out. But we but 129 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: we but we didn't, you know, we really inside the 130 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: locker room, we policed it and we told with the guys, 131 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: why he's treating us like men? Who we are? I mean, 132 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: you know, at that pint, I was thirty four, you know, 133 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: years old something like that. So I'm like, hey, I 134 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: respect that. And and then and when Brian gave us 135 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: that responsibility, we all made sure that all the young 136 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: players respected it right and that that that time frame. 137 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: And then with that though, it was great to see 138 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: like Brian would walk out and he wore these daisy 139 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: dukes short every single day, and Tony would just crushing 140 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: get I here with those ugly legs. You got those 141 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: daisy dukes on on. I mean, just everything, and it's normally, 142 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,800 Speaker 1: but normally you never talked to the head coach like ever, 143 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: and no no other team I've ever heard that before. 144 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: And then when Brian kind of gave it back to him, 145 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, this is this is gonna be a 146 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: fun year. So one thing that was mentioned in the 147 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: dock was ray Lewis watching Gladiator. Okay, he would watch 148 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: it before every game. So did you ever watch Gladiator? 149 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much Ray is making this 150 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: up or if this is actually you know true? But 151 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: would you ever watch Gladiator with Ray? I've never watched 152 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: Gladiator with Ray, but I watched Gladiator. Did Gray watch 153 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: it every game? I'm not sure? You know. It's like, 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 1: you know how I fish. You know, if you get older, 155 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: you know, your fish tails, your fish gets bigger. I'm 156 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: just saying. I'm not saying he didn't. I'm just saying so. 157 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: But but you know, you know, you know he did. 158 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: You know, he put his hand on the grass. You 159 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: know how he rode it, you know how glad he 160 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: rode it. And he said and he smelled, he said, 161 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: on my on my command on Lishell and uh and 162 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: he did that one time. He said it one time. 163 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: I was like, are we serious, man? You're quote Gladiator 164 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: like really, Like I couldn't even take it serious because 165 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: I knew we were a fround, Like I can't even 166 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: listen to you now, like you know. But but with 167 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: that being said that, he made it fun because he 168 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: always had something to say. You know, Ray thought he 169 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: was a poet. I think he also thought he was 170 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: a poet. He's like, you know, he would have some 171 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: weird messages on his his if you called his phone, 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: he would have a message for you to leave a message, 173 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: and those messages, those messages were crazy. I think like 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: the first time I called his phone was like I 175 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: walked down You walk down the steps and you turn 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: left and you're walking into the wind. Are you walking 177 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: in the right direction? What are you talking about? What? 178 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: But that's that was our team, and that's what made 179 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: the team so special because everybody was willing to be 180 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: themselves inside the locker room, but then we all accepted 181 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: each other for who we were. That's cool. So you 182 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: talked about in the documentary that after the week one 183 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: shutout in Pittsburgh that that really kind of showed you like, 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: oh wow, like we might be better than we even 185 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: thought we were. And and you know, the nine season, 186 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: which was really when I was a kid and I 187 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: started following team, was that nine nine season. It was 188 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: like the first season that the Ravens were kind of good, 189 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, and you're like they're building something here, and 190 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: then you know, you obviously, you know, added pieces. Shannon 191 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: Sharpe came in, Sam Adams came in that two thousand 192 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: years so really the talent level was was nice, right, 193 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 1: and you said that shutout in week one proved something 194 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 1: to you. Can you just talk about what you saw 195 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: and what that did for the team. Yeah, I mean 196 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: each year we added pieces, right, guys were like, oh, 197 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: we had a new pieces in and then that that 198 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: year that we brought in Sam and Channon, you know, 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: and having that shut out. You can kind of see 200 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: it because we've seen each year more players bought in 201 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: to having a Friday meetings and doing basically policing ourselves 202 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Right after the first year, the 203 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: second year was even it was even better, and then 204 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: the third year you can really kind of see it 205 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: during training camp and even off season, you can see 206 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: the guys all buying into it. And then this kind 207 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: of fruit of our labor that that first game we 208 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: had to shut out, We're like, okay, we keep this up. 209 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: This is gonna be this is gonna be fun. And 210 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: on the same token with that, but Marvin Lewis was 211 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: getting better and better at calling games and making game plans, 212 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 1: and players really trusted his game plans and if we 213 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: questioned defense inside of that, Marvin went through the defense out. 214 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: So he started to believe, He started believing in us 215 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: and I think it all came together because, yeah, you know, 216 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: having to shut out the first game out, we knew 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: were going to be good, and I don't think any 218 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: of us thought were gonna be that good, to be honest, 219 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: you know, but the wait when we started playing and 220 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: how fast we've played. And we practiced that way too though. 221 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: You know, we made a pack that year in training 222 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: camp that everybody's going to run to the ball and 223 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: touch the ball, even big Chunky Sam, even big Chunky Goose. 224 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,439 Speaker 1: Run your butt to the ball and touched the ball. 225 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: And that was our training and we said we do 226 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 1: that every single practice, every single day. Nobody's gonna be 227 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: ready for that speed, and nobody's gonna be ready for 228 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: us to play that hard for four quarters. And it happened. 229 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: It happened all during O t as, that happened all 230 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: during training camp, and we played that same way all 231 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: season long. I think another game that kind of showed 232 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: like the dominance of the defense was the Week four 233 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: game against the Bengals where Corey Dillon literally tapped out 234 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: of the game said, I'm out. You gave up ninety 235 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: four yards of total offensive. He had four yards of 236 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: rushing uh and and He's like, I'm out of this game. 237 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: And the documentary captures that really, Well, what is it 238 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: like when you see a team and a player like 239 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: that just give up and said, I'm not going out 240 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: there against those guys any longer. Yeah, I'll tell you 241 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: what we had. We only had two Hall of Famers 242 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 1: come off that team, right, But then we had so 243 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: many good players. I mean, we just think about having 244 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: Goose and Sam Adams, And we've talked about Goose because 245 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: he has such a big personality. Sam Adams man, that 246 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: dude what we call him Sybil because we didn't know 247 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,599 Speaker 1: what you know, he's gonna be a good mood or 248 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 1: bad mood. But he played. He played ball though it 249 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: came out, he played ball. And I've never seen two 250 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: guys inside that were so big, they were so agile, 251 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: and you couldn't move them there like a brick wall. 252 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, so we knew as a secondary, ain't nobody 253 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: running against us. We got those guys with our backers 254 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: and nobody running against us, So we don't need to 255 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: be running up there trying to fit in and run. 256 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: Let's stay back on the back end. Let's make our 257 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 1: plays when we are called upon. Just how it all 258 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: came together with Peter bowl Ware and Rob Burnett and 259 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: Mike McCrary, all those guys all made plays throughout all 260 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: these games. But then playing against a guy like Dylan 261 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 1: and he doesn't four yards taps out. That's what you want, right, 262 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: You want to see the really good players on the 263 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: other team say, ah, nah, don't play anymore, and that 264 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: that's when you know you're playing really good football. Over 265 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: the course of the season. Did you see offenses and 266 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: offensive players just could you sense that they were scared 267 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: of you over the course of the season. I can't 268 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: say scared, but I know they respected us and some didn't. 269 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: And we used to say all the time, nobody's nobody's 270 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: ready for our speed. Nobody was ready for us to 271 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: run from the first snap to the last snap like 272 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: we ran to the ball. Nobody's ready for that. But 273 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: we prepared ourselves that whole off season, really the year 274 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: before and the year before that, but the whole off 275 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: season to get to that point, and everybody bought in. 276 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: Everybody was in shade. I mean, you've just seen guys 277 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: flying to the ball at all times. I mean it 278 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: was multiple hats at the ball at all times. And 279 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: you know when you when you play like that with 280 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: the talent that we had, with the development of our 281 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, Marvel Lewis, which I thought he should have 282 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: got it. He should have got Assistant Coach of the Year. 283 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: How did he know? That's crazy? I don't know how 284 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: you're going. You your defense breaks all the records and 285 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: you don't get Assistant Coach of the Year. Like that 286 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: makes no sense to me. But that's another store. I 287 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: want to back up a little bit. And you kind 288 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: of referenced this and they talked about it in the documentary. 289 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Was that you and your mentorship of Ray and saying 290 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: to Ray, like, we have something special here. You are 291 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: special and we need to take it to that next level, 292 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: right that it's okay to know that you can take 293 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: it to the next level and be the best ever 294 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: and kind of unlocked that that next year was it 295 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: was an important moment for this team. Can you talk 296 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: about kind of how you helped shape Ray in that 297 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: way and how that rubbed off on the rest of defense. Yeah, 298 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean it started from day one when I got there, right, 299 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: and I remember they were like everybody said, hey, ray 300 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: Lewis led the team and tackles and I remember and 301 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: it's a clip. And even in our in our hard 302 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: knocks where me and Ray are in the back were 303 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: we always set in the back and we stretched together 304 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: and raised like, yeah, let the team Attackle Like so 305 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: who cares? Like there's thirty one other guys that lead 306 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: their team Attackle right right, Like what what does that? 307 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: And you know, my point to him was that to 308 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: do more. I don't think that you're that shouldn't be 309 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: your standard. Your standards should be higher than that because 310 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: you're such a better player than that. Now we get 311 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: just gotta start making big plays in big moments, in 312 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: big games, and then that's where you will that's where 313 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: the Ray Lewis will show up. The real Ray Lewis 314 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: will show up, and it's it's it was happening. And 315 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: I remember when we played Tennessee and he hit Eddie 316 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: on like I think they ran like us outside zone 317 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: and Ray just smacked him right in the head. And 318 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, this dude is showing up in 319 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: the nick moments. And I remember he hit Ray, he 320 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 1: hit Eddie and all he said was this me, it's me, 321 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: And he didn't even say his name, And I just 322 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: fell out laughing, like, oh my gosh, this is crazy. 323 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: But apparently he was. He wasn't a fetal position a 324 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: little bit, I will say that, But but for the 325 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: sea Ray grow over the years was like really tremendous. 326 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: And can I tell I used to tell Ray, They're 327 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: not gonna listen to me in practice. So when practice 328 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,239 Speaker 1: is going side, it's going bad, you need to be 329 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: the one to pull everybody together. It can't be the 330 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: coaches all the time. You're gonna be the one to 331 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: pull them together. And he started. The first year it 332 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: was spotty, the second year it was better, third year 333 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: dead on. I didn't had to say anything to him. 334 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: He did everything in his way. He got it. He 335 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: got the guys going in practice. He challenged the guys, 336 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: but he loved on the guys. He was he was 337 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: a great leader. And I arguably say, and I said 338 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: this all the time, he's probably one of the best 339 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: leaders I've ever seen in my time frame of watching football. 340 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: Um as as a player who played at a high 341 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: level but then challenges guys but also loved on his 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: guys and they all want to follow him. So a 343 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: fun back and forth on the stage that night was 344 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: you and Shannon talking because Shannon was saying that he 345 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: had his first career catch in the NFL against you. 346 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 1: We went back and we did the research here to 347 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: look this up. On October fourteenth, n Bronco Steelers played 348 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: each other and Shannon had caught his first NFL pass 349 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: for twelve yards. Was that? So, what what is your 350 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: verdict here? We don't have to play by play. This 351 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: is what I This is what I toed Channon. I 352 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: don't even remember you. It meant nothing. It was a 353 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: tanyard cats. Okay, great, Like I don't even know who 354 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: you were. I said, you knew who I was, but 355 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: I had no idea who you were. So that's what 356 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I love it. It was his only 357 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: catch of the day. And I think he had seven 358 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: catches that year. Just to give you a little more 359 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: ammunition if you wanted, you know, I like that. I'm 360 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna use that. There you go. You know, it was 361 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: interesting because when we just you mentioned that you didn't 362 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: feel like the locker room was divided that year, and 363 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: it could have been. I mean, the defense of the 364 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: offense and scored touchdown for five straight games and Shannon, actually, 365 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: you know one of his press conferences basically said like 366 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: they got to pick it up, like you know, they 367 00:19:56,920 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: took ownership of that, and like, how did you keep 368 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: the locker locker room from being divided, because like that 369 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 1: would have been a very easy thing to do, and 370 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: it feels like like it would have been. Well, you know, 371 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: the one thing that we've said on defense is that 372 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: that's not our job. We're not We don't play offense. 373 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: Our job is to play defense. And if they don't score, 374 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: they don't win. It's gonna finish a time, none of them. 375 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: It's a time. But our our but our secret recipe 376 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 1: was every Friday, me, Shannon and Ray will get into 377 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: the steam room and we'll say, okay, Shan, what do 378 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: you got this week? And he'll go, I think we've 379 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 1: got ten points. It's impossible, And it would it would 380 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: be about that too. It would be about what he said. 381 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: It would be ten points, thirteen points that we're in 382 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: that area. And we're like, bro, if you we didn't 383 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: and what we said, if you give us thirteen points, 384 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: we win. Just give us thirteen points, we're good. And 385 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: he was about right almost every single time we did it. 386 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: That is so funny, so so a lot of talk 387 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: also was you know, the goose hit on rich Gannon 388 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: and Phil Simms blowing up about how illegal it was 389 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: and all that in NFC Championship. Do you think it 390 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: wasn't illegal? Wasn't they didn't throw a flag? Exactly? Exactly? Know? 391 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: Now by today's rules, like the game has kind of softened, right, 392 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: so like that's the whole body weight you can't land 393 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: on the quarterback rule basically, Um, do you think the 394 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens could have been the two thousand Ravens 395 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: with today's rules? Yeah? M because because I think we 396 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: had stutch chemistry and what we have commitment to each 397 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: other as men. We we've made a challenge to ourselves 398 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: in training camp that we're gonna run really in O 399 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: T A s. That we're gonna run to the ball 400 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: every single play, every single snap, every single day. Is 401 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: it gonna be hard, Yeah, there's gonna be some hot days. Yeah, 402 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: But we said that to each other and we have 403 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,640 Speaker 1: we uphold that to each other and we challenge each 404 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: other same of time we saw one guy maybe slacking on, 405 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: and we did it all year long, I mean all 406 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: year long. Do I think the same rules you still 407 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: can hit hard, just hit right, getting the right spots. Now, 408 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, Goose couldn't do what he did the Ritz, 409 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: but he's still knsacking, right, He's still knsacking. We still 410 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: would have won the game when I still I wondered 411 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: too football team, right, I wonder you know, a lot 412 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: of the documentary obviously was about a mentality, right, It's 413 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,719 Speaker 1: that being the bully, right, And like I feel like 414 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: that mentality certainly would not have been any different with 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 1: the characters on that team and the talent and like 416 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: so from a mental standpoint and just the way that 417 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: you play the game would have been all the same. 418 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: It wouldn't have changed. Nothing want have changed. And you know, 419 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: I can't say we were bullies in the way we played, 420 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 1: but it wasn't. We weren't bullies in the way we 421 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: talked like. We didn't talk about a bunch, right, you know, 422 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: and might have had some some great quotes at times, 423 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: and some of the other guys might have had some quotes, 424 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: but we didn't give a lot of one liners and 425 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,959 Speaker 1: ammunition for the opposing team. We respected him, we respected him, 426 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 1: but at the end we knew they weren't better than us. 427 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: Like and nobody's better than we are. Yeah, the biggest 428 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: talker was Shannon I think in terms of trash. Well, 429 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: that's that's his that's that's his side the ball, right right, 430 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: And Brian Brian may have been number two. Well yeah, yeah, 431 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 1: Brian Brian. We had to we had to have his 432 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: back because he said some things. You'd be like, oh 433 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: my gosh, now we're really will be fighting on the field, 434 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, but you're you're you're taking up for your coach, 435 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: right right. So he started guy, he believed in us. 436 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 1: What I really liked though, it was one time I 437 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: don't know what it was. We were playing music in 438 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: the locker room and Shannon Hey did music in the 439 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: locker room. Hey did it, and he went to get 440 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: Brian like a baby and with the don't get you know, daddy, 441 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: to get a dad, and then he brought it, they're 442 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: playing music in here and I need to basically wanted 443 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: to quiet and he was like who the defense And 444 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: we were like, yeah, the defense were like our music, 445 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: and he was like, well it was a defense. We're 446 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: gonna have to play the music back out. When I 447 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 1: knew we were I knew we were turning him to 448 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: the dark side, making Brian go from all offense to defense. 449 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 1: That's great. It's funny to hear you say that that, 450 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: you know, because the documentary does it certainly makes it 451 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: look like you guys were a bunch of trash talkers, 452 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: like and and maybe it's more Shannon and Goose did 453 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: have the one liners, like and Shannon standing on stage 454 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: after the NSC Championship saying deal with in America. And 455 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: there's a clip of him whatever they say we said, 456 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: we said it, and like all that stuff. And it 457 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: seemed like you guys almost like relished being like okay, 458 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: like having that brash attitude, Like it seemed like you 459 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: were fine with that branding. Yes, but we weren't. We 460 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: weren't scared of anybody. I mean, I just swe we 461 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 1: would have beat any any team in the league. We 462 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 1: would have beat them. I mean, that's is that brash? 463 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: Is that confidence? I mean, you know, I don't whatever 464 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: you want to call it, that's our that was our 465 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: belief system. We just thought that if you put any 466 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: other team on the field with us, they're gonna lose. 467 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: We don't care who it is. And we just had 468 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: that belief in It's that it's a fight like that's 469 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: that confidence and cockiness. There's a real fine line with 470 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: that with the two, right, and we walked that line. 471 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: We really did. We walk the line with the confidence 472 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: in the cockiness, all the same swag. But I don't 473 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: think we ever overstepped about Now Shannon Sanence talks too much. Yes, 474 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: that's why he still has a podcast. He gets paid 475 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: talking because he just talks a lot. But for the 476 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,959 Speaker 1: most part, we kept it. We kept it one hundred 477 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,880 Speaker 1: as you, as a kid will say, nowaday um. But 478 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: as as we walked on the field, we just knew 479 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: we were the better football team on the field, and 480 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: we played our best game, especially defensively. You're not gonna 481 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: beat this and you're not going to score. Yeah. I 482 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: think a great example of that was in the documentary 483 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: talking about the mentality going into the Super Bowl against 484 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the Giants, right, and I think your quote was, we 485 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: just knew that we were gonna win this football game. 486 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: We were just trying to figure out what our ring 487 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 1: sizes were, which is just great because we have a saying. 488 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: We have a saying on the podcast here on the 489 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 1: lounge every time the Ravens win on Monday, when we're 490 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: talking about the game. It's a size them up Monday. 491 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: You're just sizing them up every time you get a win, 492 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, you know this is this 493 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: is the God's on Us trip. So you know, Minnesota 494 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: was really good that year. So I remember watching the 495 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: you know the clock, and we're seeing that the New 496 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: York beat Minnesota. Were like, what in the world they 497 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,880 Speaker 1: beat Minnesota. So we're like, okay, once they won, we won. 498 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 1: We looked at the tape one I think it was 499 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: like a quarter, maybe it's a half. We're watching the 500 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: tape and I remember looking Me and Ready looked at 501 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: each other and said, man, if they get past the fifty, 502 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: we quit. And they got pasty. Once It's like we 503 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 1: just we just knew. We just knew they weren't better 504 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: than us. We knew they're gonna try to run the 505 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: ball against us. That wasn't happening. They're gonna try to 506 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: throw in the seams, that wasn't happening. So we just 507 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: knew their game plan and what they did all year 508 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: long what we do perfectly. So we just knew we 509 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: were gonna win. Yeah, what was it was it? Like 510 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: Carrie Collins, what what was it? That you saw that 511 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: just you were like, nah, this ain't gonna this ain't 512 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it. We knew they're gonna try. They're gonna 513 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: try to run Tiki exact exactly. No, like, you're not 514 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: gonna run again first, they're not gonna run. So not 515 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: you're gonna put Carry in pass situation. So now we're 516 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 1: gonna blow at you and get our rushers on the 517 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: edge against you, and you're you're like throwing in the scenes. 518 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: That's who Sean Payton was. Sean Payton was the coordinator. 519 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm like Sean Payton, like he likes to pump over 520 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: here and throw over here. He's been doing that forever, 521 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 1: and that's what Carry was doing. We're like, okay, well, 522 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: well let's take the second you pump over there, We're 523 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: gonna go down the way. That's what we did. I mean, 524 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: that's how we got so many balls knocked out and interceptions. Yeah. 525 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 1: Well that game, I mean, yeah, game was dominant from 526 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: start to finish. It was just playing in that Super Bowl, Like, 527 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, super Bowls generally aren't blowouts. So when you 528 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: have a blowout like that, is it just there's no 529 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: pressure at that point in the second half, Like, how 530 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: much fun was the second half of that game when 531 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: you guys are just dominating the way that you were. Yeah, 532 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: you know it was. It was pretty crazy because you know, 533 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: they go down, they they they get the kick return. 534 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: But then when when Lou returned to kick again, We're like, 535 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: freaking this over. It's over. So we was like, you 536 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: don't really want to talk about it too early, So 537 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: we really didn't talk about winning the game until probably 538 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the fourth quarter, so we had 539 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes on the sideline, but we could. We got 540 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: to talk about it. But it was it was fun 541 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: and I remember I remember seeing Mr Mode when he 542 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 1: came to the sideline, were like, what's the ring gonna 543 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 1: look like? Extra diamonds in it? It's hilarious? Does it? 544 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,479 Speaker 1: Does it still bother you to this day? That seven 545 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: on the final score because it wasn't an offensive touchdown. 546 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: I hate it. I hate it. I was like, we 547 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: technically had the only shutout, but since they did score, 548 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: it goes against us, right, I hated it. We should 549 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: we should have to shut out. Yeah, so um so 550 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: rid Right now, you are in training camp. This is 551 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a pivot here. You know you're in training camp. You're 552 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: you're wearing your Vegas football shirt. You're coaching the XFL's 553 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: Vegas Vipers here. Um, so how is that going? How's 554 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 1: training camp going? The season starts February? Um, how are 555 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: you enjoying it? And what are you looking forward to 556 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: about this XFL season? It's going well. I mean the 557 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: last three days has been an ice storm down here 558 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: in Dallas, so all the roads have been icy, and 559 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, they don't put salt down here to put 560 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: sand on the ground. I don't think it worked. They 561 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: said they should talk to the cities up north and 562 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: they say, hey, how do you remove ice from the roads. 563 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: That was a really great question. But other than that, 564 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,480 Speaker 1: other been sitting in the hotel and doing zoom the 565 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: last three days with the players. It's been going fun. 566 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: And it's you know, to build a team in uh 567 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: five week period is pretty tough task to do. Um, 568 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 1: but it's been fun. It's been fun. We've got a 569 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: group a really good group of guys, are core guys, 570 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: but we know it's gonna be on the two. They've 571 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: been great leaders, uh, you know, and what we told 572 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: them from day one is that we're gonna try to 573 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: build men along with better football players. And if we 574 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: can do that, then we're gonna have a real mature 575 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: football team that's gonna show up on game date. That 576 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, because of what I always tell the guys 577 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,719 Speaker 1: is I've never seen an immature player. People, a mature 578 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: football player, I've never seen one. I've never you've never 579 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: seen one. There is not there's nothing so immature individual 580 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: to be a mature player in any sport. So if 581 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: you can show me a maturity outside of it, then 582 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: I know inside of it you're gonna be a mature Rod. 583 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, really appreciate it. I appreciate you, guys. 584 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys. Thank you, thank you well. Great 585 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 1: stuff from Rod. Also, we want listeners to know that 586 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: the sports and dscapes ever changing. This week is no different. 587 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: DraftKings as the leader daily Fantasy sports and it still 588 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: has daily fanacy contest running for everyone who's still looking 589 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: to have some skin in the game. Every player has 590 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: a salary associated with drafting him. You assemble a lineup 591 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: of players and then you sit back. You try to 592 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: watch your points pile up while staying under that salary cap. 593 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: Salary cap important these days a lot of salary cap talk. Yeah, 594 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: so now you know how to play. Sign up on 595 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: the Draft Kings app today downloaded and sign up using 596 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 1: the code flock. New users get a free entry with 597 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: their first deposit. Again, the code is flock. Yeah. So, 598 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: just what were your takeaways from the Bullies of Baltimore documentary? 599 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: Loved it really entertaining. I laughed out loud multiple times. 600 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: You heard me? You heard you heard me at my 601 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: desk this week, laughing out loud, like, uh, there was 602 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: there was so many great moments, great footage. Um, and 603 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: like I think we both felt that Tony sair Gris 604 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: was the start of the show for sure. Yeah. I 605 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: thought it was really cool because obviously with youth, uh 606 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: you know, passing away last year, this was really a 607 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: great tribute to him. You know, it just really captured 608 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: what he was all about, you know, just the big 609 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: heart obviously, the comedian, just being a larious the football 610 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: player aside, you know, just um, it was it was 611 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 1: really cool. You know, I would say the character of 612 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: the player, of the teammate, the father. Yeah, we saw 613 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,440 Speaker 1: all that of Goose and to be left with this 614 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: kind of treasure after he's gone really does feel special. Yeah, 615 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: it's um obviously, you know, the goose passing away with 616 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: so tragic. But the silver lining in some ways is 617 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: that they had this moment. You know, they had this event, 618 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: and that he passed away not long after it, and 619 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: so they had this opportunity where they were able to 620 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: come together and have this for reunion, have this night, 621 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: um and get these stories and it was just really powerful. 622 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: I thought that. I thought the filmmakers did an awesome job. 623 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: The other thing that stood out, it's just the brashness. 624 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: And we asked Rod about it, you know, he kind 625 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 1: of play. I was surprised by that answer. Yeah, he 626 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: kind of help plays. We already talked too. Was like 627 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: what I was like, I thought that he did, and 628 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: he was like, well, Shannon, Shannon, but um, I thought 629 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: that the brashness of that team was unique. And of course, 630 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: like you're pulling clips and you can be selective about that, 631 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: but like, you know, the sure scene, like they captured 632 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: the uh, the feeling and the emotion and the attitude 633 00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: of that team well. And I never really got the 634 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: sense that Ray Lewis was a big, trash talking kind 635 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: of guy. Uh. Sara Goosa was hilarious and and you know, 636 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: nobody was as smooth with the F bomb as as 637 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: you know, no nobody in history. Um, but I didn't 638 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: ever you know, like I mentioned, I was fifteen, sixteen 639 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: years old. I was fifteen during the two thousand Ravens teamens, 640 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: So I was a big, big Ravens fan, And like 641 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: I remember that year, and I don't ever remember thinking 642 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 1: that Goose was really a trash talker of the other 643 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: side either. The defense clearly had tons of swagger, but 644 00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 1: the trash shocking was from Shannon and um, yeah, I 645 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: don't know, like the stuff that was that was certainly inflammatory. Yeah, 646 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: that was certainly And you know, now the quick clip 647 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,000 Speaker 1: from Billick was in his locker room. You know, he says, 648 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 1: the best team but get out, you know, so, like 649 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: I don't really put that on him, but like you said, 650 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: the brashness, I think there's they're seeing brashness and talking 651 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: smack necessarily. I mean, I guess he you know, he 652 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: talked about what Race said Eddie George when he popped 653 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: him pretty good, you know it's me, you know, I 654 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: mean I think that like they definitely made the opponent 655 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: aware that they were good. Yeah, you know, so the 656 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: funny thing is like, when you're watching it, I found 657 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: myself being like, is the way that the two thousand 658 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: Ravens were perceived? Is that the way that the Bengals 659 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: are currently perceived? Yeah? I don't know. I mean I 660 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: think that you could look at like a lot of 661 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 1: teams over time and be like, are a lot of 662 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: players in different sports or in the NFL and say 663 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: like is he that guy? And I don't know, I 664 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: don't know. I guess my answer is no, I don't 665 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: think so. It a lot of teams that play the Bengals. 666 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: You know, the Bills were chirping about the Bengals in 667 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: their cockiness, pretty much everybody the Chiefs. It was a 668 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: big running theme all week. Um, I think there are 669 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: some similarities there. And when you're a fan of that team, 670 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: you know, as I was with the two dozen Ravens, 671 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: like it's fun. You're like, I love this, Yeah, be 672 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: cocky is as all get out. I eat it up. 673 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 1: When you're on the other side, you hate it, right, 674 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,000 Speaker 1: So that was kind of what they conveyed in this 675 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,880 Speaker 1: documentary was that the two thousand Ravens and they seem 676 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: to embrace it. With Shannon Sharp particularly so of his 677 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: quotes they embraced being the team that people didn't like. Well, 678 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: they did. The difference it seems like like you know, 679 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 1: going into the FC Championship, like the borrow Head quotes 680 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, like that doesn't seem like the 681 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: that wasn't as much the Ravens. It doesn't seem that 682 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 1: way now, Um, you just basically as fresh. So you 683 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: really don't like the Bengals and you're basic like America 684 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: didn't like the Ravens. And really, I honestly back and forth, 685 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: and and part maybe because of how I grew up 686 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 1: and rooting for the two thousand Ravens, Like I honestly 687 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: kind of go back and forth on the Bengals. On 688 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: one hand, it really does bother me and I'm like, geez, Louise. 689 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I'm like, this makes the game 690 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: more fun, Like this is what football, it's entertainment. It 691 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: makes it more fun, like it adds like the Ravens 692 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: Steelers of the old days, when like they really seemed 693 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: to despise each other, was fun, like they wanted to 694 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: just kick their heads in, you know, And like so 695 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: I honestly kind of I don't like it. I like it. 696 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: At the same time, it's it is more fun. I 697 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: mean you get like quotes from Travis Kelsey on the 698 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: stage after Days Championship. You don't shut your mouth into 699 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: your roll, you JABRONI, it's funny. It's funny, like you know, 700 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 1: it's it's it's fun So if you haven't watched it yet, 701 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: is out. It aired on ESPN last NIGHTE It's just 702 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: a great, great documentary, so much fun to look back 703 00:37:55,200 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: at that. Um, that team and that season. Um, real quick, Uh, 704 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 1: the last kind of thought here. Offensive coordinator search ongoing 705 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,320 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. Uh. Dave canal I is from the 706 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks reportedly had a second interview. Um, we'll see where 707 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: that goes. Um. It seems like every other day there's 708 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 1: like another candidate. You know, it doesn't seem like I 709 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: don't know whether the first phase of like the initial 710 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, wide net of first interviews is done right 711 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: and when we're on the second because yeah, I don't know. 712 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: So you know, it just keeps growing seemingly. Yeah. So 713 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: no real update on that front other than that it's 714 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,279 Speaker 1: ongoing and UM, we'll see if it happens before the 715 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: super Bowl is over, or if it happens soon after that. Um, 716 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: you know it wouldn't surprise me really either way. So, uh, 717 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: there's gonna be more to come here. Um, it's it's 718 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: a busy time of year. Senior Bowl, Yeah, Senior Bowl. 719 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: You know, all of the decision makers down there talking 720 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: to some of these prospects, um comblines right around the 721 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: corner free agency as well. So, UM, thank you so 722 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: much for listening. Make sure that you leave a rating 723 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: and a review for the podcast, and coming up soon 724 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: maybe next episode we give away the helmet. Oh sure, 725 00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: we got we give away the helmet, and we got 726 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: some emails. We got a ton of We got a 727 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: ton of emails over the course of the year that 728 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: will read what that have. You know, if you send 729 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: an email, you're entered to rent to win the entire 730 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,279 Speaker 1: course the entire course of years. We've got a big list, 731 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: big list all right. Now, you can email Drowns at 732 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,800 Speaker 1: Bravens dot net. Thanks for listening, talking against