WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Pascal Brings Physical Mentality To AZ 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.000 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:10.920 he got jacked. This is the big red rail presented 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:15.120 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown? Slam 0:00:15.200 --> 0:00:17.880 to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He 0:00:18.079 --> 0:00:23.479 came flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to 0:00:23.480 --> 0:00:29.520 you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Satanford State Farm? 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:33.440 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:38.320 and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Hacy Cardinals dot Com, 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:46.519 Slash podcasts. The Red Scenes, Rising guard, temperatureizing vision, flurring, 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.919 rage taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one 0:00:50.960 --> 0:00:54.040 hundred percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:59.280 Wolflee it doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far. 0:01:01.040 --> 0:01:07.560 So many questions linger out there, Ron Wolfley, for example, 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.759 why why are this Seattle Seahawks going to dinner tonight 0:01:12.400 --> 0:01:17.560 with Bryce Young? Why did the Raiders meet with Bryce 0:01:17.720 --> 0:01:22.959 Young last night? Yes? Why did former Cardinals quarterback and 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:26.800 current Carolina coach Josh McCown tell C J. Stroud because 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:28.880 they caught it there on video that you know what? 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.280 When they want to play basketball. Next, they'll have to 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:35.399 find a hoop in Charlotte. When you quote live in Charlotte, 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.679 Why did DeAndre Hopkins post to Instagram a clip from 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:44.880 the Bob Marley song Buffalo Soldier? And why did d 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.319 hops good buddy pac Man Jones all of a sudden 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:51.080 become an NFL insider. We'll hear from Pacman Jones, We'll 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.160 get the latest on de hop all the above, and 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.360 we're going to meet Zach Pascal, Cardinals brand new receiver 0:01:56.440 --> 0:02:00.320 and Special Team's Assassin on this edition of The Big 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.400 Red Rage presented by santan Ford in Gilbert. We are 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.640 santan Ford, Paul Calves here, and our own Special Team's 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:09.520 Pro Bowl Ron wolf Ley There. What's up, Polly? How 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:11.720 are you doing? I'm just trying to keep track, trying 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:13.960 to keep track everything that's going on, everything that might 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.000 potentially happen. It seems like wolf if nothing else. And 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:19.840 we'll get to some of the names that have been 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:22.480 added to this roster, but obviously the focus is on 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.720 the Cardinals right now in regards to number three overall. 0:02:25.800 --> 0:02:29.760 For example, Alabama had its Pro day today. Will Anderson 0:02:29.840 --> 0:02:33.920 did not work out. He's gonna sit on his accomplishments 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.960 in numbers from the combine and you understand why. But 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.600 I think we're starting to see that the focus in 0:02:39.680 --> 0:02:42.480 this draft is more and more going towards the AC 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:45.400 and number three overall, because if there are three, maybe 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.600 even four top quarterbacks in this draft, then guess one 0:02:48.680 --> 0:02:52.440 Manias and Ford's phone is going to be a ringing Yeah, Polly, No, 0:02:52.560 --> 0:02:54.960 I really think right now, where the Arizlana Cardinals are 0:02:55.000 --> 0:02:57.840 sitting and we've talked about this before, We've speculated, but 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:01.800 they the reality of it is starting to crash home 0:03:01.880 --> 0:03:06.080 right now, where they're sitting at number three, is that's 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:10.640 the catbird seat right now because of the facts CJ. 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.839 Stroud and Bryce Young. Most people are talking about those 0:03:14.840 --> 0:03:18.040 two guys and how well they are doing in terms 0:03:18.200 --> 0:03:23.239 of impressing scouts. Those two guys, along with Anthony Richardson 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:27.919 now are coveted. And you know what happens when these 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:31.160 quarterbacks are coveted by NFL teams that are a little 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.600 bit desperate and trying to bring a fresh body and 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:38.800 bring a capable human being and bringing a guy. Regardless 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.320 of whether it's just more combine numbers than anything else, 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.080 there are people that will take chances on a quarterback 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:49.960 because you can't win unless you got a franchise quarterback. 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:53.320 My favorite mock draft so far Mel Kiper this week 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.400 forty eight hours ago. He put out a mock that 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.320 as a Cardinal's trading down with Indie, they go down 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.600 one spot the Cardinals do They nab Will Anderson Junior 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:04.840 out of Alabama. Plus they wind up with an extra 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:09.600 second round and third round pick sold as indian comes 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.720 up to take a quarterback. So you have that. Absolutely, 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:15.200 we'll take that one, Bully, no doubt. If fact, can 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.359 you finalize that deal right now? Mel? What can you 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.200 do to make that happen? We get you into this 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.760 vehicle today, you know, our salesman says, yeah, Paully, I 0:04:22.800 --> 0:04:25.320 just gotta jump in here. Though. When you're talking about that, though, 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:28.560 stop and think about the Indianapolis Colts if in fact 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:33.080 they do love themselves a little Anthony Richardson, or maybe 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.840 it's Bryce Young. Maybe they love Bryce Young and maybe 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:39.680 they're thinking, hey, there's a real chance that Bryce Young 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:42.720 could possibly be the right at three it regardless if 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.640 they want to get one of the top three prospects 0:04:45.680 --> 0:04:51.280 at quarterback right now, Indianapolis. They can't risk sitting there 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:54.640 at number four and watching somebody like, oh, I don't 0:04:54.680 --> 0:04:58.200 know the Raiders jump up to number three in draft 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:01.040 at quarterback right in front of them, specially when there 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:04.080 are reports out the Raiders had serious, advanced talks with 0:05:04.120 --> 0:05:07.320 the Bears for number one overall. Right, so it appears 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:10.200 the Raiders are dead set. I'm maybe making a move 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.240 for a franchise quarterback. So yes, I agree with you. 0:05:13.320 --> 0:05:16.040 That should move the meter with the Indianapolis Colts, who, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:17.880 by the way, there's another report out that they might 0:05:17.920 --> 0:05:21.560 covet Anthony Richardson because Shane Steiken sees Anthony Richardson as 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:24.280 a jail and Hurts. It's just instead a souped up 0:05:24.360 --> 0:05:27.400 version with more measurables than a jail and Hurts, and 0:05:27.440 --> 0:05:29.960 they'd run a similar type offense. But that's just one 0:05:30.040 --> 0:05:32.840 report out of many. Late this afternoon, we got word 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:36.120 the Cardinals added yet another player. Here's the latest linebacker, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:39.599 special teamer, Josh Woods out of Detroit where guessing this 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.160 might be a Dave Sears type signing. The assistant jam 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:44.280 has spent all those years with the Lions, guy who 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:47.039 played seventeen games a year ago with the Lions, after 0:05:47.120 --> 0:05:49.560 making the league twenty eighteen with the Bears in the 0:05:49.600 --> 0:05:53.799 practice squad undrafted, so boom. There's sort of a pattern here, Wolf, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:57.839 these sort of players the Cardinals are bringing in. What 0:05:57.960 --> 0:06:00.919 do you see as sort of the the bar that 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.279 is being set among all these signings. Well, PAULI, for 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:06.360 the most part, We've talked about this a little bit, 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.559 but I see the floor being raised. That's what I see. 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:14.039 I see the last forty to fifty three spots on 0:06:14.080 --> 0:06:18.039 your roster being raised. They're churning up the back end 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:22.799 of the roster right now, and the depth chart as well. 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.040 And Paul, I think that is the way to go. 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:28.920 I do when you're talking about a brand new general 0:06:28.960 --> 0:06:31.680 manager and you're talking about a brand new head coach 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:34.800 and a brand new coaching staff, Paul, just stop right 0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:38.640 there when you're talking about that, especially when you're going 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.359 into next season with the idea that your franchise quarterback 0:06:42.480 --> 0:06:45.679 is probably going to miss the start of the season. Paul, 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:49.039 that to me, that signals a rebuild. Now is it 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:51.919 a full on rebuild? Note, it's never a full on 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.320 rebuild when you have a franchise quarterback. But to me, 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.240 this is a rebuild by the Arizona Cardinals, and that 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.279 means raised the floor first, get your culture set and 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.520 go from there. That's what I think we're seeing right now. 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.000 And you know what worth noting Josh Woods one of 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.960 a half dozen Lions team captains last year, So you're 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:14.680 bringing in there, you go that sort of character guy, 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.600 the guy we're gonna be talking to in a little bit. 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.440 Zach Pascal is one of those types of guys. Speaking 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:23.200 of names, Cardinals said resigned some of their own guys. 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.600 We started this offseason with the likes of a Greg 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:28.400 Dortch and Accory Clement and a Zeke Turner. Then this 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.280 week David Blow resigned, So there you go, along with 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.760 Colt mccoy'd be your other two quarterbacks on the roster 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.520 currently to go along with Kyler Murray who continues the 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:40.600 rehab from the knee surgery. Antonio Hamilton at cornerbacks sign 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:44.040 to one year, one point five million dollar deal. So 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.800 that's been done. And then the Cardinals went out and 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:49.960 got a former first round pick from the Seahawks twenty 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:54.760 nineteen round one defensive lineman L J. Collier six two, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.680 two ninety one, and he gets a contract just over 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.760 a million dollars one hundred and fifty grand and bonuses. 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.400 So why not, you know what I mean? You go 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:06.600 after a guy who's formerly a first round talent and 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.920 seeing get a home run with a guy like LJ. Collie, 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:12.880 especially when you obviously have needs along the defensive line. Boy, 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.000 you said so much there, Polly, really you said, I 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.880 just need to go back to the quarterback and David Blow. 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:22.240 That tells me that Kyler Murray. To me, this is 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.960 just me the fact that they've got cold McCoy of 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:28.200 course on the roster, and David Blow is a quarterback 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:32.160 they went out identified and signed. Now, it doesn't preclude them, 0:08:32.200 --> 0:08:35.800 I get it, from signing another quarterback, but right now, 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:39.440 that tells me that maybe they're really comfortable with Kyler 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:43.320 Murray and his rehab right now, and the fact that, yeah, 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.520 Colt McCoy is probably gonna have to start maybe the 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.960 first three, four, five games, whatever it may be, Paully, 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.400 maybe that's what he's going to have to do. But 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:54.520 instead of going out and spending a lot of money 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.439 for somebody like a Marcus Mariota by way of example, right, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:00.440 a guy that you were going to have to pay 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.400 five million, six million, whatever it may be, you have 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:07.200 to bring him in here. Instead of doing that, don't 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:12.199 do that because Kyler Murray is coming along with his rehab. Again, 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:15.480 we don't know that's the case, but Paul, that's what 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:18.800 that signing tells me right there. And you know what, 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:20.800 Drew stan made this point, a guy who's been what 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.440 in thirteen years worth of quarterback rooms in the NFL. 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:26.480 If it's all about Kyler Murray and it is, you 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.640 want to make sure the chemistry in that room is right. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:32.440 So yes, you tend to opt for known versus unknown. 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.480 You know, Cole McCoy and David Blow create a great 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:38.840 environment for a Kyler Murray. You bring in a Gardner Minshew, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:40.719 I'm just throwing out names. I have no idea that 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:44.040 Marcus Mariotta, PJ Walker, some of these other guys you know, 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:48.480 Jacoby bers said, Hey, they may have expectations on getting 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:51.880 playing time, how happy would they be as a strictly 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.559 a backup? So you know, in that regard, you're well 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.680 aware of what did David Blown, Cole McCoy bring to 0:09:57.720 --> 0:09:59.920 the equation. And just let me jump in on l 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.920 Jay Collier right now, here's a guy. He played eleven 0:10:02.960 --> 0:10:05.760 games his rookie year, and I would say that his 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.320 rookiear was a boss. Paul I would say that it 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.360 was a boss right there. And then he came back 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:15.120 and his second year was really really good and in 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:18.120 solid I think, and then all of a sudden he 0:10:18.200 --> 0:10:20.760 came back, his third year not so good, and his 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.000 four fourth year was really bad. He only played in 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:28.559 eight games, had seven tackles. But he is talented. He 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:31.960 was a first round pick, as you well know. And Paulie, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.480 if there's ever a guy you want to go out 0:10:34.520 --> 0:10:37.520 and say, we're not counting on this guy, We're not 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:39.680 doing it, but man, we'd like to sign him and 0:10:39.679 --> 0:10:43.199 give him the opportunity to compete here. That's exactly what 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:46.680 you want to do. One man's quote unquote trash is 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:49.680 another's treasure. And you know what, John Schneider in Seattle, 0:10:49.760 --> 0:10:52.640 he really hit the reset button in that defensive line room. 0:10:52.679 --> 0:10:57.600 They cut Shelby, Harris Quinn, Jefferson, Al Woods, and LJ. Collier. 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:00.600 I mean, they just yes, they just went scorched earth. 0:11:00.640 --> 0:11:03.120 They're like, look, everybody's out. We weren't very stout at 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.040 the point of attack and so once again, you know 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:09.080 it's a low investment at low risk. Maybe a high 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.240 return on an LJ. Collier. We'll see about that. Dennis 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.920 Daley comes over from the Titans. Now this has provoked 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:18.400 a lot of reaction on Twitter from Titans fans because 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:21.079 he started fifteen games a left tackle and the Pro 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.600 Football Focus numbers were not kind. I'll just say this, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.080 Number one, he's not going to be a starting tackle 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:30.120 on this rosspect he has experience of guards, so you're 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:32.360 gonna try him there, especially at left guard where he 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.640 has played before. And number two, Wolf, how about the 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:37.680 twenty twenty one season opener when Chandler Jones had five 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.480 count of five sacks against Taylor Lewan and that coaching 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.600 staff and Mike Brabel never made an adjustment. They never 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.400 gave Taylor the Wan any help. So if you told 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.920 me Dennis Daley was hung out to dry all of 0:11:50.000 --> 0:11:53.520 last year, starting those fifteen games at left tackle, yeah, 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.520 I would not be surprised. Paully, this to me is 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.840 a situation where you're not going to play him at tackle. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.320 As you said, you got your two tackles, you got 0:12:02.400 --> 0:12:05.240 Calvin Beachum, you got d J. Humphreys, you got your 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:08.480 two tackles set up. You're gonna give him the opportunity 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:13.319 to compete for that left guard position. But they're not 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.280 signing Dennis Day and saying he's gonna be our starting 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:20.400 left guard. They're gonna let him go ahead and compete 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:24.160 and bring depth along that offensive line. Yeah, I mean, 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.880 think about it. Could be Dennis Daley against Josh Jones 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:30.200 against Marquis Hayes. Best man wins left guard, right, I 0:12:30.200 --> 0:12:33.559 mean as of right now. So yes, we'll see. So Wolf, 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:38.400 can receivers be physical football players? Say? Yes? Yes? Do 0:12:38.559 --> 0:12:43.320 special teamers need to play physical football? Yes, Let's meet 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:47.280 the receiver. Now, let's meet the football player who checks 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:51.760 both boxes, Zach Pascal. Next on the Big Red Rage 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:55.400 presented by santan Ford and Gilbert we Are, santan Ford 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:04.400 hurts up the gun, he fakes the Sanders, goes back. 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.280 He's firing wide open Pascal at the five and he 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:13.360 is and for the touchdown. Zack Pascal thirty four yards, 0:13:13.520 --> 0:13:15.640 throws left side to Zach Pastile but the five yard line, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:19.000 looking for the Baylon. He's in Zack Plasco and the 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:24.160 ball is cut rays Zack Pascal. Yes, Sir, touchdown. Zac 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:28.240 Plasco eat a way down field for Zach Pascal. Touchdown. 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:33.160 Touchdown Zack Pascal. A forty two yard bomb floats right 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:35.520 side on a crossing cutick. Zach Pascal fakes a man 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:38.840 miss chucks the pile at the goal line, gets a touchdown. 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:41.840 Zack Pascal grows end zone looking for a man. He's 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:46.160 got it. Touched down Zack Pascal. Pascal from seventeen yards 0:13:46.160 --> 0:13:48.720 away for the fire up field into the end zone, touchdown. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:54.760 Zack Pascal. Yess, sir, not just a playmaker, but his 0:13:54.840 --> 0:13:59.720 head coach and Philly called him and in forcer and 0:13:59.840 --> 0:14:02.440 in a tough town like Philly, and the fact that 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.960 he plays the receiver that counts double in my book. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:08.800 I just say that is the man sweetied out himself recently, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.600 zp to the Asy and Zach Pascal joins us now 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.080 on the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and 0:14:17.240 --> 0:14:19.800 Gilbert our special guest, Zach Welcome, And I'd say you 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:21.840 know what you're getting used to where your surroundings are, 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:24.160 But no, you spent a week here getting ready for 0:14:24.200 --> 0:14:26.880 the Super Bowl. Correct, Yes, Sarah, appreciate you having me 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.520 on today. Man, what do you think Arizona by the way, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.640 you said ZP to the asy when you know you 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.040 spend a week here and I'll just say, you might 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.880 not see rain again until like July. Okay, so this 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:39.480 is the worst you're probably gonna get weatherwise. Yeah. I 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.560 came down for the super Bowl the first week and 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.680 it was just great weather. And then I've come to 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:47.280 sign a day and it's raining, so at least all 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.040 good though, It's all good, all right. So you tell 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.040 us a little bit about yourself when you hear Enforcer, 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:56.040 how much pride do you take in that? Moniker? Take 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.360 a lot of pride. I mean, because you know a 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:01.200 lot of times in life, like you get put into 0:15:01.240 --> 0:15:04.600 a box on what you can do, or you know 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:07.960 you're on your talent level. And so for me, I'm 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.760 listened as a receiver, but I love playing football, you 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:14.160 know what I'm saying. So regardless of what you ask 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.560 me to do, I'm gonna do it times ten. That's 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:20.440 just who I am. And so if it's going in block, 0:15:20.720 --> 0:15:23.600 if it's going in chip or doing a dirty word, 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:25.520 even if it's going out and making a tackle, like 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.960 my mindset is just going in dominate. I love playing football, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:33.200 Like I said, so, like I'm not crying about you know, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:38.040 not getting the ball or you know, not trying to 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.400 do the dirty work or get dirty. So being an enforcer, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:44.200 it's a mindset. And I feel like I'm one of 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:48.000 the last few receivers who even has this mindset, you know, 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.360 to go in and go crazy like that. So so 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.000 to fight to fight the odds. Right as an undrafted 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.600 guy out of old dominion, did you have to be 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:57.520 that sort of player? Is that just who you were 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.920 and that's your DNA or did you have to take 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.640 on that sort of role to make the NFL? Well, 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:06.480 I was kind of that player even in college. Um, 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:09.000 I was playing special team. I was catching touchdowns and 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:11.560 then going down and making the tackle right after the touchdown. 0:16:11.680 --> 0:16:15.720 So like I'm used to just being out there all 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:18.880 the time or doing whatever it takes to win, whether 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.400 it's whatever it is, um And so that coming into 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.960 the league, you know, it grew on me. You know 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:27.400 how I can stay in the league obviously, but it 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:32.080 just enhanced that mentality I already had. You know, well, 0:16:32.120 --> 0:16:34.440 our co host on this show, Ron Wolfley, went to 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:38.040 four Pro Bowls as a special team's ace. So if 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.520 he's if he's here, he would ask you, what do 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.960 you like most about special teams and where do you excel? 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.160 What what's your role? What do you enjoy the most? 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:51.800 I would say kickoff, yo, kickoff, because I mean, it's 0:16:51.840 --> 0:16:54.480 it's it's It could either be beginning of the game. 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.080 I think if it's like this, special teams is a 0:16:58.080 --> 0:17:01.640 group of special players doing special things. You can you 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.200 have to be special to do this, you know what 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.480 I'm saying. It's like an all star team. But the 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.679 mindset is that what you need for special teams, the mindset, 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:13.879 the skill level. Everybody can't run backwards, turn around and 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.680 block somebody coming full speed at you, you know what 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.240 I'm saying. Or everybody can't go down and defeat double 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:23.040 teams and then go make the tackle, you know, and 0:17:23.040 --> 0:17:25.359 then you got plump pump return. But for me, my 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.800 favorite is kickoff because I just like to run full speed, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:30.600 cause wreck and then go make the tackle. You know 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.680 what I'm saying. I can see why you're a good 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:36.119 fit with Jonathan Gannon. Zach Pascal is our guest, and 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:38.600 you know what, look, you followed them from the Colts 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.200 to the Eagles, now to the Cardinals. To what degree 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.159 has that been by designed? To what degree are you 0:17:44.160 --> 0:17:47.080 guys just a good fit player coach? Listen, I guess, 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.560 I guess when great football minds think allow you end 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:52.560 up in the same place he told us about Jonathan Gannon. 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:55.320 Because you have a real intimate knowledge of the Cardinals 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:57.320 new head coach, we're getting you to know him. I'll 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:59.520 just say this much. On the second floor here at 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:01.560 the Cardinals facility, it could be two thirty on a 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:04.040 Tuesday afternoon and you will hear someone from the other 0:18:04.080 --> 0:18:07.679 side of the building yell out, let's go yes, and 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.400 it's the head coach. Yes, you see like that all 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.240 the time. He's gonna bring the energy, I'm telling you, 0:18:13.320 --> 0:18:16.520 But sometimes like that's what you need. You need the 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:20.240 energy because it's contagious, and if you see it every day, 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:23.119 it's contagious. It goes from the head coach to the 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.640 to the assistant coaches, from the assistant coaches to your 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:28.960 star players, from your star players to you know, everybody else, 0:18:29.000 --> 0:18:32.159 even to the training staff. Like it doesn't matter that 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.640 I feel like that that energy is gonna be so gotaged. 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:36.480 It's just gonna help us want to get better. Every time. 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.479 It's gonna help us have fun getting better, Zach Pascal, 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:41.040 our guests here on the Big Red Rage, why do 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.400 we get the feeling that during training camp and practices, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:49.600 you going against JG's defense, things got competitive? Absolutely? Absolutely? 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:54.320 How competitive? Absolutely? I mean we want to field talking trash. 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.360 I mean, it's a it's a it's it's a it's 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:00.080 a fun, fun competition, you know what I'm saying. And 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:04.240 we're not going crazy, but um like, I want your best. 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:06.280 If we're gonna get better, I need your best and 0:19:06.320 --> 0:19:07.919 I'm gonna give you my best. That's the only way 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:09.880 we're gonna get better. So if I have to talk 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.520 trash to you to get you going or you know, 0:19:12.600 --> 0:19:15.000 that's just how we are, like, let's do it, you know. 0:19:15.080 --> 0:19:17.479 And he's the same way. So it was just it's 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:19.840 always fun because we do one on ones and he's 0:19:19.880 --> 0:19:24.280 coaching up the safeties and or the dbs in Indie, 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.399 and I would be a receiver talking trash to his 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.440 players right in front of him and then to him. 0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:32.320 It was it was always good. It was always fun, 0:19:32.320 --> 0:19:34.440 good competition. Right, So all your new teammates are gonna 0:19:34.480 --> 0:19:35.960 be asking you, all right, what do they need to 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.919 know about Channa. Think Jonathan getting the new head coach, Um, 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:40.960 what would you tell him? What sort of scouting report 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:43.600 would you give your teammates on the head coach. He's 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.600 definitely a competitor, But one thing I would say, he's 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.639 definitely a player's coach, Like what you need as a player, 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:51.600 he would try his best to get that for you. 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.480 What you need to get better or to be successful 0:19:55.480 --> 0:19:56.960 in the field, he would try to get that done 0:19:56.960 --> 0:19:59.120 for you. For sure. You were in a T shirt 0:19:59.200 --> 0:20:02.840 right now that reads bet on yourself. Explain that to us. 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:10.199 You know, Um, coming into the league right undrafted, you 0:20:10.200 --> 0:20:12.680 you you tend to try to make a team and 0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:15.040 be and get comfortable being on that team. And it's 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:17.600 like at this point, you know, I would do whatever 0:20:17.640 --> 0:20:21.320 to stay on the team. But you know, I kind 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.280 of in these past couple of years grew a mindset 0:20:23.320 --> 0:20:25.359 where it's like, Yo, you're not gonna be in this 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:28.359 league for long. You know what I'm saying, Like, bet 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:31.239 on yourself, you know, bet on yourself. You know, if 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:33.919 you if you if you have the confidence you know 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:36.720 to trust in yourself, go ahead and do that. Bet 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:39.440 on yourself, your talent and you know, go make something happen, 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:43.879 because targets were hard to come by. Absolutely Philly last year. Absolutely, 0:20:44.119 --> 0:20:46.119 a couple of years in Indianapolis you had, you know, 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:48.359 a couple of forty plus catch seasons, more than six 0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:51.439 hundred yards each year, five touchdowns each campaign. How hungry 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:54.000 are you to return to that playmaker to be an 0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.080 integral part of this offense? I don't even know if 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.080 I could put it into where I gotta just stay 0:20:58.840 --> 0:21:02.639 stay on it. I'm trying to take that and putting 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:05.960 into my grind, my word so that way, when it's 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:09.520 time again, it's gonna be time. But definitely trying to 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.000 get back to that for sure, because people who may 0:21:12.000 --> 0:21:15.400 have forgotten about you as a receiver necessarily right, fifteen 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.480 catchers all of last year you played every single game. Yeah, 0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:20.840 you were available, you were durable, you were playmaker. But 0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.639 in terms of the passing game and catching balls. Um, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:26.680 you tell Cardinals fans what can they expect in your game? 0:21:26.760 --> 0:21:29.000 What sort of receiver are you? No? I mean, I'm 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:31.400 I'm I'm gonna talent to receiver. I mean I'm gonna 0:21:31.400 --> 0:21:33.920