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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Ron wolf Ley There. What's up, Polly? How

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Speaker 1: dual threat quarterback, most recently Jail and Hurts and now Kaylas.

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Speaker 1: I would say like, if you have more so a

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Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, you gotta be at that spot at the

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Speaker 1: right time, you know. And then when you have like

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Speaker 1: an athletic quarterback, you may be at the spot at

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Speaker 1: the right time. But now he's scrambling. You got scrambled.

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Speaker 1: You got scrambled space the field, you know, so you

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Speaker 1: gotta it's different on how you running your routes and

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Speaker 1: what you're looking at on defense to try and get

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Speaker 1: the ball. All right. So we're coming off the combine, right,

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Speaker 1: and they had a few different questions at the combine,

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Speaker 1: and one of them was if you were coaching yourself,

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Speaker 1: how would you get the best out of yourself? How

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Speaker 1: would you answer that for your new coaches? If I

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Speaker 1: was coaching myself, how would I get the best out

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Speaker 1: of me? Um? Oh, tell me, I can't do some them.

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Speaker 1: It's good answer. It's good answer because you've already defied

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Speaker 1: the odds, haven't you? The whole bet on yourself T

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Speaker 1: shirt Absolutely a Zach. We enjoyed it. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the A Z Officially, Yes, sir, and we

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Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you out on the grass. Zp

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Speaker 1: to Azy appreciates you. Head love it, Zach Pascal, our

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Speaker 1: guest on the Big Red Rage. We continue right after this.

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Speaker 1: I'll brought you by satan Ford and Gilbert. We are

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Speaker 1: satan Ford back to throw, flushed out, rolling left in trouble,

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Speaker 1: slips a tackle, Gotta launch it. He does left side

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Speaker 1: into the end zone. Jump ball and it is Is

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Speaker 1: it caught? Is it caught? Oh my goodness, it's caught.

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins botting. He caught him for a duckdown with

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Speaker 1: one second lapt. I can't believe him. You've gotta be

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Speaker 1: joking me. Hopkins reaches off with three defenders around him.

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Speaker 1: Head polls it in head. The Cardinals lead at thirty

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Speaker 1: two to thirty. Quit a second, laft, you, Chad cover

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Speaker 1: doof You're not gonna be able the cover room. Throw

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Speaker 1: the ball off. That's right, Walfie. When he is covered,

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Speaker 1: he's not covered. One of a handful of receivers you

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Speaker 1: can say that about in the league. And you heard

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Speaker 1: it there, Hail Murray twenty twenty to beat Buffalo. Wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, could the Bills be the front runner? The

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Speaker 1: clubhouse leader right now. We'll get into that as the

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Speaker 1: ball is up in the air. There's no doubt about

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Speaker 1: a when it comes to the future of DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 1: who is going to come down with d hop we'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that into bids the Big Red Rage presented

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Speaker 1: by santan Ford in Gilbert. We are santan Ford, Paul Kelbc,

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Speaker 1: Ron Wolfley and special thanks to our special guest Zach Pascal,

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Speaker 1: who we had a chance to visit with yesterday. And

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Speaker 1: you know what, those rain clouds have parted and boom,

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Speaker 1: you can see the sunny future hopefully for Zach Pascal,

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Speaker 1: who was still in his prime and wearing that T shirt. Wolf,

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Speaker 1: bet on yourself, that's what is T shirt said. And

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing you liked a lot about just his mentality,

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Speaker 1: not just as a receiver but as a football player.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, you know, Polly, I love that. And

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Speaker 1: remember too, this is what Jonathan Gannon is trying to do.

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Speaker 1: This is what this coaching staff and Mannie Asenford is

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Speaker 1: trying to do right now. They're trying to go out

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Speaker 1: and bring in football players, guys that love to play

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Speaker 1: the game, guys that love to tap into the essence

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Speaker 1: of the game of football, which you know, Polly, is

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Speaker 1: to go out there and maybe blood somebody's nose. Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: the most physical team wins most often, and that's what

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Speaker 1: guys like to say, especially about the playoffs. So he

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Speaker 1: is definitely a physical receiver. That's definitely a need right

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Speaker 1: now on this roster. There's no doubt about it. You

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Speaker 1: could hear how hungry he is. Only nineteen targets all

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Speaker 1: of last year on that talented Philly team. He's really

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Speaker 1: looking forward to being more of an integral part of

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Speaker 1: the passing game. And I just love him saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm listed as a receiver, but I love playing football.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me a lot of a Chase Edmonds when

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Speaker 1: he came in remember you as Chase Edmonds just about

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Speaker 1: you know, in his response to you was, I'm not

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Speaker 1: just a running back, you know, I don't just catch

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Speaker 1: the ball. I'm a football player. So I guess that's

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Speaker 1: what they're getting Zach Pascal. But that's not to say

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Speaker 1: that the Cardinals are done in that receiver room, because

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Speaker 1: to start this week, we got the report from NFL

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Speaker 1: network Ian Rappaport quote as the status of d Hop

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Speaker 1: comes into focus. Talks are ramping up among interested teams,

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Speaker 1: and it's interesting because now all of a sudden, we're

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Speaker 1: getting some new teams added to this list. First off, Wolf,

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Speaker 1: do you fully expect DeAndre Hopkins to be traded at

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Speaker 1: some point and maybe some point soon in the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals offseason? Yes? I do, Polly. Yes. And what do

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Speaker 1: you think at this point is a realistic price, because

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's been like the stock market, it's been volatile.

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Speaker 1: It's been up and down all offseason. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where we're at right now. No, Polly, it really is.

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Speaker 1: I don't think a second round pick is out of

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Speaker 1: the question at all. As a matter of fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: digging my heels in on that second round pick. I

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Speaker 1: realize there's a lot of mitigating factors that makes this

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Speaker 1: deal a little suspect. And when I say a little suspect,

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Speaker 1: I'm talking about the contract status of DeAndre Hopkins, of course,

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Speaker 1: and the new contract that he's gonna want wherever he

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Speaker 1: may go, Paul, that is what's complicating a lot of this.

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Speaker 1: That's my guess. I can't be one hundred percent sure

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Speaker 1: on that, Polly, but I think that's probably what's holding

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Speaker 1: up this deal right now? Well, the last party Ian Rappaport,

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Speaker 1: and what he said on Tuesday was similar to Brandon Cooks,

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Speaker 1: a trade of d Hop would mean an altered contract. Yep,

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Speaker 1: So okay, what does that mean? How badly does DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Hopkins want to play with all? I don't know Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes or a Josh Allen because all of a sun

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Speaker 1: the bills. I mean, we have an NFL insider reporting

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Speaker 1: earlier today the d HOP trade market is headlined by Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: citing sources, and that was moments after pac Man Jones,

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Speaker 1: the former standout cornerback, joined the Pat McAfee show, and

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Speaker 1: he mentioned a handful of teams and then one front runner,

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Speaker 1: Muscos is Timmy that d hop is getting hot right now? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Interest is heating up, although our source says have told

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Speaker 1: us nothing we did see on Instagram Buffalo, So from

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Speaker 1: d Hop just yesterday, Muscles is Timmy Buffalo work like

536
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Speaker 1: the Raiders too? I don't know. I go back and

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Speaker 1: look at the teams and I know d as a person,

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning more towards the bills of the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: he's in here Dallas with von Miller working out. So

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Speaker 1: it seems like Buffalo Soldier with what we're hearing from

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Speaker 1: pac Man source says, feels like Buffalo Bills fans have

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Speaker 1: a reason to be excited, all right. So the re

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Speaker 1: enacting the clip from the Bob Marley song that D

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Speaker 1: hop posted on Instagram Buffalo Soldier. Okay, So that's that's

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Speaker 1: that's sort of the cryptic post from djre Hopkins since

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Speaker 1: deleted Paul, Oh, yes, I did not know that. Okay, Okay,

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00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: that's okay, all right. So in the five teams that

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Speaker 1: were mentioned for what it's worth by pac Man Jones,

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Speaker 1: the Bills, the Ravens, the Raiders, the Patriots, we've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of new noise out of New England and that,

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Speaker 1: and then the Falcons, who are seemingly nude in the

552
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Speaker 1: mix because previously, really we'd heard a lot about the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: the Browns who made the trade for Elijah Moore from

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Speaker 1: the Jets. Kansas City has been meant a lot, Carolina

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Tennessee has gotten a lot of play,

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00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: the Giants quite a bit, although they went on and

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Speaker 1: got Paris Campbell first, the former second round pick of

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Speaker 1: the Colts, and then Dallas before they made the deal

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Speaker 1: for Brandon Cooks. So, as you know, Wolf, it just

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Speaker 1: takes a couple of teams to maybe drive up the

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00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: price and then maybe, just maybe the Cardinals can get

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Speaker 1: something they've been looking for and they'll pull the trigger.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Polly. Right now, First of all, can I

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Speaker 1: just say this, You know, I love the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: Of course, I bleed Cardinal Red. I love the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Steelers because of my older brother Craig and the memories

567
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: that I have growing up with some of the greats,

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00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: the Steeler greats, and then of course being from Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I love the Buffalo Bills. I love Dianrey Hopkins to

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. Polly, I love it because of Stefon

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Speaker 1: Diggs on the other side, Are you kidding me? You

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Speaker 1: take a guy like Stefon Diggs, who is a run

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Speaker 1: by guy. He is a guy that can run by

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Speaker 1: the opponent, You take him and you stick d hop

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Speaker 1: on the other side of that, I love the fact

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Speaker 1: that you've got a very solid tight end in Dawson

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Speaker 1: Knox as well. He's a guy that is very reliable

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00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: in terms of running routes and being a safety valve

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Speaker 1: for Josh Allen. But man, you tell me that you

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Speaker 1: got those two guys on either side, Stefan Diggs and

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, and that could be exactly what pushes the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills over the top and into the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Think of their playoff loss to Cincinnati, Well,

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Speaker 1: what were they missing another receiver in addition Stefon Diggs.

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Speaker 1: They had nobody beyond Diggs in that game. They have

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Speaker 1: a window right now where they think they're a championship contender.

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00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: You can't count on the draft on a rookie receiver,

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00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: you just can't. They're not game ready season number one,

589
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 1: at least not typically unless you're Jamar Chase right, And

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00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: it's certainly not where the Bills are drafting exactly. And

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00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,719
Speaker 1: it's a thin free agent class. It's already been picked over.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm with you. You know what I mean.

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00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Bill's got to come in and they got to bring

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Speaker 1: some something of worth and get the d hop trade

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Speaker 1: done and then Polly, Yeah, I just want to jump

596
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Speaker 1: in and just say this right now, the Buffalo Bills.

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00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: That makes so much sense and maybe the only other

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Speaker 1: team that rivals the Bills in my opinion as to

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Speaker 1: it making sense the Kansas City Chiefs if they want

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Speaker 1: to go back to back the Kansas City Chiefs. I

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Speaker 1: understand they have Travis Kelsey. I get that. I understand that,

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00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: But man, their wide receiver room is not very impressive

603
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: right now, and DeAndre Hopkins would make that very impressive.

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Speaker 1: Casey just lost Juju Smith Schuster to New England and

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Speaker 1: then there's a lot of noise out in New England

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Speaker 1: because Schuster's really more of an inside guy and they

607
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: need an X and guess what, that's what DeAndre Hopkins

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00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: would do. And we know the affinity between Belichick and

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Speaker 1: de hop and Juju. Also, Polly is really not a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver one, d hop is, So all right? What

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Speaker 1: does that mean for the Cardinals receiver room? Though? They'd

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Speaker 1: be minus a receiver one unless Hollywood Brown has a

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Speaker 1: breakout year. What do you think for the Cardinals when

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Speaker 1: I say, look as of current, as currently constructed, Hollywood Brown,

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Speaker 1: Rondale Moore, Zach Pascal, our guest tonight in the Big

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Speaker 1: Red Rage, Greg Dortch, Andre Batchelly, and then you have

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Speaker 1: a couple of practice squad caliber guys and Javan wins

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Speaker 1: An autumn take Yeah, Paul, you know again, this tells

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Speaker 1: me when anytime you're gonna lose DeAndre Hopkins and you're

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Speaker 1: admitting the fact that you're out there and you're shopping

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins and you're only going to get like a

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Speaker 1: second round pick back or maybe even worse than that,

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Speaker 1: some of the other rumors that are out there, a

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Speaker 1: third round pick whatever. I don't believe that, but you're

625
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Speaker 1: not going to get a ton of compensation because of

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Speaker 1: the mitigating factors as we've already discussed and regarded DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you're doing that, what you're really saying is, Paul,

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Speaker 1: the rebuild has hit reality, because again, d Hop, You're

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Speaker 1: not going to go out and be able to replace

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins with a guy that's anywhere close to what

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Speaker 1: d Hop brings to this team right now, because you'd

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Speaker 1: have to pay, you'd have to do it. And right now,

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Speaker 1: the one thing we are sure of is Monti Asenford

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Speaker 1: is building this team from the floor up, raising the

635
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Speaker 1: floor up as opposed to raising the ceiling and not

636
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Speaker 1: really addressing the floor of the roster. And I think

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Speaker 1: this is just me personally, but if you're changing everything.

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Speaker 1: You've got a new GM, a new head coach, a

639
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Speaker 1: new coaching staff. You could have a completely new culture

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Speaker 1: because of that. Man. You have to start by raising

641
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Speaker 1: the floor and admitting that you need to raise the

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Speaker 1: floor and build back culture. That Paulie is critical going forward.

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Speaker 1: I can't stress it enough. And you know what, I'll

644
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Speaker 1: just throw in an addition to raising the floor and

645
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Speaker 1: building that manner, you have to build from the inside out. Yes,

646
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Speaker 1: how to build the trenches firsty, we know Wolf firsthand.

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Speaker 1: Just look back in Cardinal's history. You can have all

648
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Speaker 1: the weapons you want, but unless you're stout at the

649
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and just based on the fact this

650
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Speaker 1: is a weak draft class when it comes to receivers

651
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Speaker 1: and I view this as a two year rebuild, then

652
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Speaker 1: guess what I think you're going after those linemen in

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Speaker 1: this draft, at least those guys that play maybe in

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Speaker 1: the front seven on defense and then in the trenches

655
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Speaker 1: on offense and defensive line. That's your priority right now? Yeah, absolutely, Polly,

656
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Speaker 1: go out and look for a guy who's really young

657
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Speaker 1: and really really talented, and maybe you're going to draft

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Speaker 1: him and give him the opportunity to come in here

659
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Speaker 1: and let lightning strike. But right now the d hop

660
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Speaker 1: situation tells me the reality of that rebuild is on.

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Speaker 1: Hey joined the season ticket priority list at Azy Cardinals

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Speaker 1: more of the big red rage right after this gore

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Speaker 1: just bust by Colt McCoy. Oh, that is a greasy

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Speaker 1: role by col McCoy. Right there, spin that big Colt

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Speaker 1: shotgun snap to McCoy. Paul's loose on the ground, He

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00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: picks it up, throws over the middle. Hey, it's caught

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Speaker 1: for a touchdown by Art. I'm on Cole McCoy picking

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Speaker 1: up a loose ball on the turf and throwing a

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Speaker 1: pass over the middle for a big touchdown. Here blow

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Speaker 1: looking deep, airing it out near sideline. Jump ball caught

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Speaker 1: by A J. Green at the thirty five turns left

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Speaker 1: of the thirty. He's inside the twenty, inside the ten,

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Speaker 1: and Green is into the m zone for a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: You gotta be kidding me, David. I want to prove

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Speaker 1: to my cell phone, want to prove to everybody when

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Speaker 1: they turn on the tape that they can trust me

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Speaker 1: with the ball in their hands or whatever that may

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Speaker 1: look like. My role in twenty twenty three. That is

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Speaker 1: David Blow going into the season finale at the forty

681
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Speaker 1: nine ers, And you know what that was foreshadowing in

682
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Speaker 1: a way, as we welcome him back into the Big

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Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by Santan Port and Gilbert We are

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Speaker 1: Satan Poor. Paul calvec Ron Wilfley and David Blow showed

685
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Speaker 1: up late on the scene started the last two games

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Speaker 1: and Wolf, look, you're either part of the problem or

687
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Speaker 1: you're part of the solution when a team hits the

688
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: reset button after a losing campaign. Cole McCoy and David

689
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 1: Blow both made their share of place, and to Blouse comment,

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Speaker 1: did he not put enough on film where the decision makers,

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Speaker 1: even albeit new decision makers, could watch that film and say,

692
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Speaker 1: you know what, as far as a backup quarterback goes, Yes,

693
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Speaker 1: this guy is a plus. And guess what he is

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Speaker 1: back in the fold for twenty twenty three. Yeah, no, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I am with you on that one. I really am,

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Speaker 1: and I think you would agree that guy was very impressive,

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Speaker 1: even though he threw two interceptions. To me, again, I say,

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Speaker 1: go back and look at that tape. One of them

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Speaker 1: I know for sure was not his fault. So having

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Speaker 1: said that, you look at him and think he threw

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Speaker 1: for over four hundred yards, just over four hundred yards,

702
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Speaker 1: And then I think of the offense that they actually

703
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: were running with David Blow. David Blow was actually under

704
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: sat or remember that, Polly. We're gonna see more and

705
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Speaker 1: more of that going forward. I think it's probably one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why the Cardinals may have looked at

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Speaker 1: David Blow and said, listen, Kyler Murray's rehab is coming

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Speaker 1: along well. He should be on track at some point

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Speaker 1: in time to return. Whether that's in October or maybe

710
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Speaker 1: even sooner, who knows, but he should be on track

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Speaker 1: to actually come back and be the franchise quarterback. Colt

712
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: McCoy can cover us. So let's not spend money. We're

713
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Speaker 1: talking about this earlier, Let's not spend money on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position. Because David Blow can go out and actually

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Speaker 1: run an offense where you got him a shotgun pistol

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Speaker 1: or under center. And I think that was one of

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Speaker 1: the big reasons why they said, hey, let's sign this guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other big takeaway from me was him going down

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Speaker 1: fuel with a football, Yeah, in a passing attack to

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Speaker 1: spend all of almost all of last season, dead lasting

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Speaker 1: yards per passing an attempt he went downfield, there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of first down throws, are a lot of

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Speaker 1: chunk throws. He was targeting guys ten twenty thirty yards downfield.

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Speaker 1: We didn't see a lot of that, and I just

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Speaker 1: think it spoke to his confidence and his ability to

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Speaker 1: see the field. Now you're right about that. So again,

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Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals feel like he is capable of

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Speaker 1: orchestrating whatever offense they run out there. But it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Colt mccauy. I would imagine going into training camp

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Speaker 1: and then at some point we're gonna see Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: So this to me is encouraging because it tells me,

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Speaker 1: this is just me looking at this situation. Kyler Murray's

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Speaker 1: rehab must be coming along nicely. Yeah, And there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of reports to that effect that he might

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Speaker 1: be ahead of schedule. So most are bullish on his

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Speaker 1: rehab process so far. And we all know when the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it is about the quarterback and getting to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And so the question becomes, will we see Will Anderson

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Speaker 1: Junior at Cardinals training camp? Will he be a draft

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Speaker 1: pick at number three? Will he be a Cardinals draft

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Speaker 1: pick at number four after they trade down with Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: US Will we see the Bama stand out? He was

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Speaker 1: on CBS Sports Rick Spielman, the former Vikings GM and

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Speaker 1: Rick Spielman had a couple of questions for the draft prospect.

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Speaker 1: How many teams have you talked to that are looking

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Speaker 1: at you as an outside linebacker and some may be

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Speaker 1: looking at you as a defensive end just putting your

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Speaker 1: hand in the dirt and getting up field. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: talk to it quite a few teams, but I think

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Speaker 1: just being at Alabama and just how versatile they made me.

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Speaker 1: You know, whatever system I'm being, I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be good playing it through four, outside linebacker, playing

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Speaker 1: with my hand in the dirt. Most of all the

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Speaker 1: teams I talked to say you can do both, and

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Speaker 1: they were really excited about me. Do you have any

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Speaker 1: other private workouts coming up after this or just a

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Speaker 1: lot of meetings. I have zero private workouts and zero

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Speaker 1: meeting so I'll just be here working out. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. In fact, according to reports, the Cardinals big

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Speaker 1: decision makers, the head coach and GM were not at

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Speaker 1: Alabama's pro day today. Will Anderson was not working out.

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Speaker 1: He just said, you know what, everyone saw what I

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Speaker 1: could do at the combine. I rushed the combine. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. What we did here today was Nick

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Speaker 1: say his college head coach wolf on Will Anderson Junior,

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Speaker 1: talking to ESPN, and I quote, this is Nick Saban

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Speaker 1: about Will. He has great ability, but he plays to

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Speaker 1: that ability all the time because he is a dog

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Speaker 1: ass competitor. I mean, he really is a great competitor.

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Speaker 1: End quote Nick Saban. You know you cannot convince me

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Speaker 1: that Nick Saban did not use those words that you

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Speaker 1: just said on purpose, because I think he is trying

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Speaker 1: to help a kid that he probably loves in Will Anderson.

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Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that, Paulie, we all

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Speaker 1: know the kind of weight that Nick Saban carries. We

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Speaker 1: all know that when he says something like that, it

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Speaker 1: really speaks to the type of person that you're going

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Speaker 1: to be drafting in Paul more than anything else. That

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Speaker 1: to me is why I'd love for the Arizona Cardinals somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way to get Will Anderson. This guy is a

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Speaker 1: football player. You know, we were talking. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about Pascal of course, and we were talking about some

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Speaker 1: of the guys that the Cardinals are signing in Josh Woods.

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Speaker 1: The fact that these guys are dogs, these guys are

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Speaker 1: are Okay, maybe not in the top twenty five, top thirty,

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Speaker 1: top thirty five of your roster. Maybe they're more towards

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Speaker 1: the back end, but they're football players, Paul. They love

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Speaker 1: to play the game. And that's the reason why I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to get really jacked up when you tell me

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals were not at Alabama's pro day. Is

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Speaker 1: that what you're telling me, Paul, the head coach and

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Speaker 1: GM were not there today exact Well, that to me

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Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about. Yes, those guys not being

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00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 1: there today, that really tells me they're focused and their

795
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,839
Speaker 1: message is all about the tape and how you play

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00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 1: the game of football. We don't need to see you

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00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: running around unless you're actually playing the game of football.

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Speaker 1: There is an emphasis, I believe, a newfound emphasis in

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Speaker 1: the organization on playing in between the white lines. Look

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Speaker 1: for all is accolades. Two time SEC Defensive Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year, two time All American, two time Bronco Nagurski

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Speaker 1: Award winner, is the best defensive player in the nation.

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Speaker 1: The thing I like the most when I hear about

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson is when Amel Kiper puts in his scouting

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Speaker 1: report quote doesn't take plays off? Yes, And then when

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Speaker 1: you hear that you know, dog competitor from Nick Saban.

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00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: Those things that resonate to me. So okay, hopefully we

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Speaker 1: can pencil them in already. Will Anderson is a future

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinal. How about the future of an Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Big decision right after the draft by May second, Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have to decide do they pick up that fifth year

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Speaker 1: option or not? What do you think the future holds

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Speaker 1: for Isaiah Simmons? Wow, I have no idea, Polly, I

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Speaker 1: have no idea what the Arizona Cardinals are going to do.

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Speaker 1: I just find it fascinating that Isaiah Simmons is very

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Speaker 1: much in the same category as Hassan Raddick was, and

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Speaker 1: what happened with Hassan Raddick, the same circumstances seem to

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Speaker 1: be surrounding Isaiah Simmons at this point in time. Even

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Speaker 1: though I think Isaiah Simmons has made more plays and

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Speaker 1: flashed a whole lot more than what Hassan Reddick flashed

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Speaker 1: at the time, I find it fascinating that here we

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Speaker 1: are once again in this situation. PAULI, I have no

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Speaker 1: idea what the Cardinals are going to do, but for me,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and pass on the May second

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Speaker 1: and picking his option year up, and I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: him go play, and then we'll try to sign him

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Speaker 1: going into October. If he flashes and looks like he

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Speaker 1: can do it, we'll try to sign him and we'll

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Speaker 1: give him a bank load. My hot take this week

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Speaker 1: on the Regiscy report is I really wonder if he's

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Speaker 1: not traded before May second, right around the draft, if

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals can get what they're looking for in terms

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Speaker 1: of trade compensation. I almost liken him to a day

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Speaker 1: on Buchanan. He's a baller, but what's his position? So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. We'll get an answer to that real soon

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Speaker 1: as well. Hey, Season six, Episode two, Cardinals Flight Plan

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Speaker 1: Gotta catch up. Great stuff YouTube dot Com slash Acy

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Speaker 1: Cardinals for Jima monro Zach Larson, Zach Pascal who was

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Speaker 1: wearing the T shirt. Bet on yourself for Ron Wolfley

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Speaker 1: on Paul KELBC. This has been the Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert Number one kil you've

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