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Speaker 1: list to be on. Yeah, all right, were we at?
Speaker 1: Where were we at? Oh? I remember? Where were at?
Speaker 1: Where we when we laughed? Where we last left our heroes? Uh.
Speaker 1: Oliver North had a light bulb idea as to how
Speaker 1: to solve this problem. He did. That's because he's aware
Speaker 1: of a whole other situation that's happened on the other
Speaker 1: side of the world that we have not yet talked about.
Speaker 1: And just for a brief aside, the reason that Ali
Speaker 1: is aware of everything that's happening. So I said in
Speaker 1: the first episode that um McFarlane has centralized all intelligence.
Speaker 1: So it's going through the NFC. They have this computer
Speaker 1: system and it's this physical set of terminals that like,
Speaker 1: the data runs directly into the terminal. It's not like
Speaker 1: a you know, it's flying through the air or anything like.
Speaker 1: It's running along the these these wires to the specific
Speaker 1: set of terminals, and it's this group of three big
Speaker 1: screens that all of everything the United States as an
Speaker 1: entity knows about the world runs into these three screens.
Speaker 1: And the guys sitting behind the screens is Ali North
Speaker 1: and he was like on the internet before everybody, So
Speaker 1: Ali is aware of and he's also like in charge
Speaker 1: of all this stuff, you know. So uh by Bud McFarland,
Speaker 1: he's like, look, can you do this? Can you fix this?
Speaker 1: So one of the things he's worried about is who
Speaker 1: we talked about in the beginning of this was the
Speaker 1: contrast this rebel group in Nicaragua who's fighting against the
Speaker 1: Sandinista's this again socialist group who overthrew their dictator, and
Speaker 1: Reagans just like jocking just he cannot be so just
Speaker 1: like rock hard for these guys, he calls from the
Speaker 1: moral Yeah, I'm sure you're getting to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: like the yeah, the more the force of good in
Speaker 1: South America, like just all kind of just out of
Speaker 1: pocket extra shit about the contrast and that we need
Speaker 1: to support our brown brothers down south just absurd, right uh.
Speaker 1: And again, like we said before, it's based on this
Speaker 1: fear that socialism is gonna spread in the America's right,
Speaker 1: um on the western hemisphere period. You know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna if we're gonna have communists, let them be on
Speaker 1: the other side of the Atlantic. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: At least it's not at least it's not on our
Speaker 1: side of town. But either way, he's like we rocks
Speaker 1: with the contrast and whatever they need. And he's been
Speaker 1: on the TV like, yo, whatever these fools need, we
Speaker 1: need to ride for him. And Congress is like slowdown, chief,
Speaker 1: Uh buddy, you'll remember Vietnam. Yeah, this shit don't work. Fam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're actually not okay with big writer. Die for these guys,
Speaker 1: um because exactly. Yeah. So in two they passed what's
Speaker 1: called the Bowling Amendment, which is if you are a teacher,
Speaker 1: a parent, an older sibling, whatever the case, maybe you
Speaker 1: would resonate with something like this. It's one of those
Speaker 1: laws that or those rules that you can't believe need
Speaker 1: to actually be stated, you know, if you know, you
Speaker 1: know when you see one of those like please do
Speaker 1: not walk off this cliff, please do not lick the
Speaker 1: door knobs like that. Shouldn't have to tell you the
Speaker 1: why is this a rule? Well, it's because somebody did
Speaker 1: walk off this click and somebody actually used to lick
Speaker 1: this door knob. So we had to make a law.
Speaker 1: And the law was and you can't use our money
Speaker 1: to overthrow Nicaragua. Yeah, you can't like it was abroad,
Speaker 1: it was you know, you can't just go overthrowing governments
Speaker 1: and funding militant groups without asking Congress. Right, you can't
Speaker 1: just be you can't be cutting checks to overthrow government's
Speaker 1: fam like but pre texts for everyone who wrote was
Speaker 1: involved in making it was like specifically looking at what
Speaker 1: Reagan was trying to do in Nicaragua like that because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because he wasn't high and he was like, no, we
Speaker 1: rock with them. Sandinistas are dangerous. We need to help
Speaker 1: these fools. And they're like, okay, listen, bro, We've been
Speaker 1: down this route before. You can't just be cutting checks
Speaker 1: for these people like this. Uh. But Reagan's like, okay, word,
Speaker 1: I hear you, But like what if I want to? Though,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. He's like, but but what
Speaker 1: if I But what if I you know, own our point?
Speaker 1: I want to So it was Bud McFarland's job to
Speaker 1: make sure that we still have these fools back without
Speaker 1: actually breaking this law. Right. So who does Bud McFarland
Speaker 1: put in charge? Oh Ali Ali Oxen free right, puts
Speaker 1: the big armie in charge. So in Bud tells Ali, Uh, listen,
Speaker 1: this what we'll do. Hey, have the contrasts, set up
Speaker 1: this offshore account right this that you know and and
Speaker 1: and if you've seen a movie ever, you know what
Speaker 1: the offshore account is. You know what I'm saying. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, uh for contributions that are made to them
Speaker 1: that are direct deposits to the cause. Ali is like,
Speaker 1: got you, let me tap in with some homies who
Speaker 1: know some people down there. So he hits Bill Casey
Speaker 1: again from the CIA. He's like, Yo, who you got
Speaker 1: down there that can help us over there and set
Speaker 1: this thing up. So they so Bill Casey can nexting
Speaker 1: with the homie Adolfo Colero, right, who's big Nicaraguan businessman,
Speaker 1: big baller. You know what I'm saying, shock caller, moving
Speaker 1: in circles out there with the contrast and he so
Speaker 1: Bill Casey lays out the play. He's like, look, small
Speaker 1: amounts per month, but only small so that nobody notices it, right,
Speaker 1: and when it's time to go, because if you go big,
Speaker 1: that's how you get caught, right. And if we do
Speaker 1: get caught, you know what I'm saying, the money is offshore, right,
Speaker 1: so nobody will know that the US had anything to
Speaker 1: do this at all. We don't want we can't have
Speaker 1: our name on none of this, but we want you
Speaker 1: to know that we got you. Right. Um, work sounds cool.
Speaker 1: So the next obvious question is like, all right, well
Speaker 1: where is this money coming from? If the bowl Nack
Speaker 1: says that we can't fund this, right, that's cool, But
Speaker 1: there's no problem with us letting the homies no that
Speaker 1: our homies need some help. Yeah, yeah, we could just like,
Speaker 1: well we get funded, but we can promise favors to
Speaker 1: the King of Saudi Arabia or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder where the name Saudi Arabia came from. How did
Speaker 1: they get involved? Is this not the seventh country to
Speaker 1: be involved in this story? Right? So you're right. So
Speaker 1: they say, hey, you know, we've been We've been slaying
Speaker 1: weapons to the Saudia's for a while. I think they
Speaker 1: might owe us some favors. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We've been selling And not only have we been selling
Speaker 1: them blicky's, I mean we've been selling them that good
Speaker 1: good I mean as Zaza, We've been giving them like
Speaker 1: the realness. So they look, they say, hey, listen, man,
Speaker 1: we been it takes planes out of the sky. Yes,
Speaker 1: we've been shooting you to take plays out the sky
Speaker 1: because off your shoulder. This look, we ain't been selling
Speaker 1: you that gas like we've been giving you the zaza.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So if that's the case, hey, man, like, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna need you to do us a favor real quick.
Speaker 1: We've been giving you this good stuff. Hey, I need
Speaker 1: you to sign slide of millie or two into this account,
Speaker 1: just just here and there, just the millie, right, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And this, this is this is
Speaker 1: your way. This is your way of thanking us for
Speaker 1: giving you that good good Right, that's all we're gonna
Speaker 1: need from you, Saudi Like, all right, word, we got you.
Speaker 1: Will slide him a million month to the off shore.
Speaker 1: The problem is that's not enough, which is crazy that
Speaker 1: that's not enough, right, So that's nuts. So now enter
Speaker 1: another acronym, uh, the NSPG, which is the National Security
Speaker 1: Planning Group, right, which they connect in June to talk
Speaker 1: about contra because listen, they find a run out of
Speaker 1: money and they're about to lose this and the only
Speaker 1: people that know the money is going through the saudiast
Speaker 1: is oh Ronnie Reagan, Oliver North, Bill Casey, and Budding Farland.
Speaker 1: They're the only people that notice, and that's really who's
Speaker 1: in this group, right, And they're like, okay, so we
Speaker 1: need to figure out they need more money, right, how
Speaker 1: do we help the contrast right, which we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be help in any way, but we slick, slick,
Speaker 1: kind of low key under the table figure out how
Speaker 1: to do this, right. Uh So then they say, if
Speaker 1: anyone finds out that we're getting money from other countries
Speaker 1: to pay for this, if we're like, well, that's not
Speaker 1: tax cay perpayers money, we just got money from somebody else.
Speaker 1: If they don't do it directly, then they're like, not
Speaker 1: a's still impeachable, Like we can't just do that, right,
Speaker 1: But they're like, I still don't know how to do this.
Speaker 1: Cut to Oliver North right in the group text with
Speaker 1: Colero and nossaudis to making sure that the money is
Speaker 1: going through, the money is going through. Everybody's cool, right,
Speaker 1: but again it's still not enough. But while everybody's sweating
Speaker 1: about this, the funny part is like dudes like Weinberger,
Speaker 1: who's like, listen, I don't understand what y'all problem is
Speaker 1: this is perfectly legal. Yeah, like we're not. We have
Speaker 1: not done anything wrong. Listen, we have no control over
Speaker 1: their money, right, and and just because we connected the two,
Speaker 1: that's not like just because we connected them. Yeah, I'm saying, like,
Speaker 1: we haven't broken no laws here. Now. Vice President Bush
Speaker 1: Senior he's in the room and he's like, listen, man,
Speaker 1: what's I don't I don't understand what everybody worried about.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with us doing a solid for the homies? Right,
Speaker 1: as long as we don't get anything in return, we
Speaker 1: all agreed, let's it's it's okay. Let them keep doing
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And uh, if we get approval from
Speaker 1: the A G. From the Eternal General and now everybody
Speaker 1: knows this, then I don't understand what the problem is. Right.
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan like, okay, I get it, as long as
Speaker 1: I know one thing. This is one time. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is a good Ronald Reagan quote. He's like, this
Speaker 1: works as long as everyone keeps stay fucking mouth shut.
Speaker 1: I was like, great, if you don't say a goddamn thing.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, Ronnie, all right, you do you
Speaker 1: show some humanity that I agree with. He's like, okay,
Speaker 1: Ronnie does understand. You can try to convince me this
Speaker 1: is legal, but just in case, I need nobody singing now.
Speaker 1: As anyone who us know who's ever tried to put
Speaker 1: together a lick or a mission or a scheme, the
Speaker 1: more names involved, the more people involved, the more chances
Speaker 1: for problems. Right. But but still we're still in a
Speaker 1: situation where Oliver North is down there, you know, again,
Speaker 1: since he's the middleman between the Southeast, you know, Collaro
Speaker 1: and the Contrast. Right, the Contrasts are still just a
Speaker 1: rebel group. They're not a five star purple hearted general.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like Oliver North. So Oliver
Speaker 1: North down there kind of low key giving them game
Speaker 1: here and there, right, just like yo, man, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: So when we'll give you this, this is how you
Speaker 1: set stuff up, right, you know what I'm saying, Like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll figure it out, you know, and we'll try to
Speaker 1: get you some more money. So while this is happening,
Speaker 1: in October of night four, the Congress passed another Bowling
Speaker 1: amendment that was like, okay, listen, you can't pay for
Speaker 1: the Contrast, but you also can't indirectly fund the contrast, Man,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed like we you know, you're not allowed
Speaker 1: to loophole funding a foreign military organism. We see what
Speaker 1: you're doing, letting you do this. Yes, we see what
Speaker 1: you're doing. Bro, I mean the wind up letting them
Speaker 1: do this. And they eventually but they're just like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you can't just like, okay, listen, Doug again, we thought
Speaker 1: maybe this was clear, but you can't directly or indirectly
Speaker 1: fund them. So everybody who hears that that was funding
Speaker 1: indirectly the conscience goes, Okay. So so what you're telling
Speaker 1: me is we just have to come up with a
Speaker 1: better system to fund the conscious, right, that's what you're saying. Like, no, no,
Speaker 1: we're saying, don't do it. They're like, so do it better?
Speaker 1: Got it right? So they're just like that means we
Speaker 1: gotta turn up. So five Oliver North gets them, gets
Speaker 1: the saudiast to double their monthly pledge. In between four
Speaker 1: and six. It says that the Saudis gave them thirty
Speaker 1: two million dollars to the contract. Ali knows it almost
Speaker 1: thirty two million dollars, right, It's like and he's down there, Ali,
Speaker 1: down there giving him all kinds of games, weapons, war strategy,
Speaker 1: eleven million in guns, eleven million dollars eleven million worth
Speaker 1: of guns, and they still significant number of guns. Like
Speaker 1: that's not a tiny number of guns, it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So and they still lose. That ship goes far back
Speaker 1: that yes, a still losing. Yeah, listen what I mean.
Speaker 1: One of the things that is we should probably hone
Speaker 1: people in on on here if they haven't picked up
Speaker 1: on it. The Contracts are not a very good rebel group.
Speaker 1: They not they this should have been. Yes, they do
Speaker 1: get better, like in terms of their competence at fighting,
Speaker 1: Like near the end of the story, they're like they're
Speaker 1: really bad at at being being an insurgent militia. It
Speaker 1: just really not doing well. And they've taken on another
Speaker 1: insurgent that over through another government who clearly got some
Speaker 1: more experience on you. You know what I'm saying, So like, fam,
Speaker 1: this should ain't working like and and it's like and
Speaker 1: we're just dumping money into you. But again, as America
Speaker 1: or Reagan and them is concerned, we have a vested
Speaker 1: interest in y'all win in this war. And it's almost like,
Speaker 1: look the purse, the purse can't have a bottom on
Speaker 1: it because I need you all to witness, right, And
Speaker 1: now cut to Oliver North. Right, uh Ali, Remember this
Speaker 1: is all happening at the same time while we're still
Speaker 1: trying to get them hostages out. It's the same time, right,
Speaker 1: so we still ain't got no hostages. Jump saying we're
Speaker 1: dumping money here. Now. Remember we're not giving the Southeast
Speaker 1: these weapons, they're buying them, right. But so the agreement
Speaker 1: was agreeing to sell to us, right. That was the
Speaker 1: part that I always missed when I was like trying
Speaker 1: to really understand the story growing up. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I understand where the money coming from. Was like, well, no,
Speaker 1: they're buying It was like, they're paying for these weapons. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The fucking arms industry is getting their cut of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, everybody making money, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So this is happening at the same time we still
Speaker 1: ain't got our hostages. So in November November five, Israel
Speaker 1: calls Oliver North to be like, okay, back to the beginning,
Speaker 1: our last Hawk missiles didn't clear customs. Remember we told
Speaker 1: you about that. It didn't clear customers list and it
Speaker 1: got sent back, right, So that's when Oliver North calls
Speaker 1: bud Vic Farland and tells Ronnie he's down for whatever. Right.
Speaker 1: I Ran thinks Israel sabotaging this stuff, and they're like,
Speaker 1: if you if you blame America, they're gonna kill the hostages. Right.
Speaker 1: So we're in a situation that we got to figure
Speaker 1: out how to take care of both of these situations.
Speaker 1: There's not enough money here. We still ain't got our
Speaker 1: hostages over there. Incomes January six, the diversion. Now, according
Speaker 1: to Oliver North, he said, Goo Bonafar came up with it, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, we can't know because it was like a
Speaker 1: movie scene where you out in London. Y'all remember that meeting,
Speaker 1: I said, when they talked in London. Right, they're out
Speaker 1: in London, they're having a conversation. You gotta picture a
Speaker 1: movie scene where the food Gabonafar pulls his food into
Speaker 1: the into the into the bathroom, turns the water on. Right,
Speaker 1: So nobody hear him talking, right, And according to Oliver
Speaker 1: North in his story, according to his story, he's like, listen,
Speaker 1: I got an idea how you could get an extra
Speaker 1: millie for you? I got an idea and you can
Speaker 1: make an extra million on it, right, but it's gonna
Speaker 1: take a few steps. So he's like, okay, here's the plan,
Speaker 1: stopped using Israel. Okay, sell directly to Iran and mark
Speaker 1: up the price and take the rest and put it
Speaker 1: in that offshore account that the Nicaraguan set up. And
Speaker 1: if you won't to, won't you mark it up a
Speaker 1: little bit more and you can pocket a little bit
Speaker 1: like you put in your life in danger here. Anyway,
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna go to jail over this ship, so
Speaker 1: you might as well make a little money, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And you know, boy scout Oliver North
Speaker 1: is like, well, I can never do that, right, But
Speaker 1: he doesn't do it, so he doesn't take the money right,
Speaker 1: but he definitely is like huh it basically huh So
Speaker 1: they need more money. We need our hostages. Iran thinks
Speaker 1: Israel is the problem. So if we remove Israel, sell
Speaker 1: to y'all directly, mark it up, take that extra money,
Speaker 1: put it in an offshore account. That way, we get
Speaker 1: our hostages and we pay for this war that we're
Speaker 1: not allowed to pay for with money that actually don't exist,
Speaker 1: because remember we're not supposed to be settling to them anyway,
Speaker 1: so that in that case, if you if you work
Speaker 1: it right, the money never touches our account, it never
Speaker 1: comes into your bank account because the money are not
Speaker 1: supposed to exist anyway. And again, like we said in
Speaker 1: the beginning, brilliant, right, although quite a bit of that
Speaker 1: money is going to wind up in a physical safe
Speaker 1: that all of our north keeps. Like he winds up,
Speaker 1: he's grabbing. There's points points of this where he's like
Speaker 1: paying off people in our government and stuff, and he's
Speaker 1: just like handing folks like bearer bonds he keeps in
Speaker 1: his fucking safe and the white It's hilarious. It's the
Speaker 1: most messiest, Like it's very messy because these people aren't
Speaker 1: actually criminals. You know what I'm saying. All right? Uh
Speaker 1: So Ali goes up, pulls up to the new National
Speaker 1: um Security Advisor. His dude, John Poard Dexter, who I
Speaker 1: thought was a made up name, right, That dude's got
Speaker 1: a real last name, and he's really hard. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he was like one of them like true believer type dudes,
Speaker 1: like first class and one like you know, Navy pH
Speaker 1: d and like nukes as being he's extremely smart, yes,
Speaker 1: and he had. He also he's he's described as being
Speaker 1: extremely intelligent and having effectively no independent thought whatsoever. Like
Speaker 1: he's this brilliant man who who's never had an idea
Speaker 1: of his own, but he's unfailingly loyal. Yeah, he's just down,
Speaker 1: true believer down. So January, Reagan finally uh signs the
Speaker 1: finding right to drop the middleman, to be like, this
Speaker 1: is what we're gonna do. I'm gonna sign the finding.
Speaker 1: Remember he did the retroactive one, but which was already fraudulent.
Speaker 1: Now he's about to sign one that's gonna say we're
Speaker 1: gonna cut out the middleman. The problem is it never
Speaker 1: goes to Congress, so Congress never saw it. Right, But
Speaker 1: the diversion is now off to the races. Right. So
Speaker 1: missiles that we sold to Iran for what should have
Speaker 1: been three point seven million was ten million. That's where
Speaker 1: we raised the price to from three point seven to
Speaker 1: ten million, and we take the extra six million and
Speaker 1: we fund them the constrass. Right, that was a plan.
Speaker 1: It was working, except we still ain't got the hostages.
Speaker 1: They still gave them up. Bill Casey is fucking dead, yes,
Speaker 1: yeah or not. Casey Buckley is dead. Day you get
Speaker 1: like one guy or something. At one point in this
Speaker 1: like almost no movement at all, like that, they're they're
Speaker 1: handing over literal tons of weaponry and they're trying to
Speaker 1: get six dudes. Now, look, I'll tell you right now,
Speaker 1: if I've got six guys and you give me five
Speaker 1: hundred tons of anti air and anti armor weaponry, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you those six guys because I'm an honest man. Um.
Speaker 1: But no, hisipal is just like, you know what, Now,
Speaker 1: see how long we can run it ahead, See how
Speaker 1: long we can run it. And at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, it's like, I don't blame them if y'all
Speaker 1: keep sending them. They're like, why would I stop? It
Speaker 1: seems like the US is just a gun paniata right now?
Speaker 1: Why not? Like there's a downside? And what's crazy is
Speaker 1: in this whole story, the real is the only real
Speaker 1: ones in this story so far as has blood. Because
Speaker 1: they was like, look, we'll do it if you give
Speaker 1: us weapons. And I'm like, wait, so you'll still give
Speaker 1: us weapons even if we don't do our partners Iran?
Speaker 1: Yeah is Iran. They're like, wait, you'll still give us
Speaker 1: weapons if we don't give you what you want, I mean,
Speaker 1: we'll ship like you saying like I don't know. I
Speaker 1: mean that it's it's cool, right So anyway, Uh So
Speaker 1: Ronnie hits uh blud McFarland back and he's like, listen, dog,
Speaker 1: I don't sucked up. I need some help here, right.
Speaker 1: So in May eight six they land in Tehran, right, uh,
Speaker 1: with a couple of spare parts of a hawk missile,
Speaker 1: a kosher cake for some reason, and a Bible as
Speaker 1: a chord in the Ronald Reagan story, and a chord
Speaker 1: in a Bible with a message from Ronald Reagan. Now,
Speaker 1: why in the world Ronald Reagan would think this was
Speaker 1: a good gesture is beyond me. But they were there
Speaker 1: to negotiate the terms of release, right, So basically it
Speaker 1: was like, okay, we're moving out Gabana far. This is
Speaker 1: us talking like, let's talk face to face, all right,
Speaker 1: here's a situation, and as a sign of good faith,
Speaker 1: here's this. Here's this Jewish thing that I'm giving y'all right,
Speaker 1: at which I still don't understand why he thought that
Speaker 1: was a good idea unless it's a dig towards Israel.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me. And a Bible.
Speaker 1: I don't get it. The point is, according to them,
Speaker 1: that's what they say. Now. Oliver North and Hissary story
Speaker 1: is it wasn't no Bible. And the cake was something
Speaker 1: that he bought in Tel Aviv, right, which is why
Speaker 1: it was culture. Uh. But either way, they was in
Speaker 1: this meeting. They brought Blood back from from retirement because
Speaker 1: remember Bud was like, Dog, I'm out man, I don't
Speaker 1: want none of this. Bud came back to because Ronald
Speaker 1: asked him, and they was in this situation, and Ali
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, here's the move. That's what we're gonna say.
Speaker 1: We're gonna negotiate the terms is what it is. We're
Speaker 1: here directly. You know, you ain't got worried about Bonafar,
Speaker 1: who has cash, plenty of checks, right, and and it's
Speaker 1: clearly in on the thing, right. So we're having a
Speaker 1: talk and then Bud flies off the handle, Blood throws
Speaker 1: the whole thing up. He was like the Iranian. The
Speaker 1: Iranians offered two hostages. It was like, okay, well we'll
Speaker 1: slide y'all two hostages. Bud was like, hey, hoey, it's
Speaker 1: everything or nothing. Nah, fam, we didn't come up here
Speaker 1: for two for two. We came up here for everybody, right,
Speaker 1: and he was like look, look and and he leaning
Speaker 1: over and he leaning over to uh Ali and them,
Speaker 1: and he's like, listen, Doc, you gotta do this with
Speaker 1: these foods because they're not gonna They're not down, they're
Speaker 1: not going to give us anything. He was like, I
Speaker 1: knew they wasn't gonna do this because listen when we
Speaker 1: flew in here, they didn't even meet us for this meeting.
Speaker 1: Like they wasn't day to say no cars. We had
Speaker 1: to straight like uber to this ship like they ain't
Speaker 1: got no we ain't got no hotel. We gotta figure
Speaker 1: this out. They're not really here for us. A matter
Speaker 1: of fact. Uh they had us waiting for two days.
Speaker 1: He was like, fool, we had this meeting. We've just
Speaker 1: been sitting here for two days waiting for these foods
Speaker 1: to come. You don't understand. You ain't gonna hustle in you.
Speaker 1: He was like, they hustling us, fam nah everybody or nothing.
Speaker 1: That was Bud's thinking, because you remember Buds Gangster. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: so uh so he's like, um, all right, well, either
Speaker 1: we could do this, try to figure this out, you know,
Speaker 1: all or nothing, and while they're saying all or nothing,
Speaker 1: Irandon already unloaded the plane, so they already got the weapons,
Speaker 1: so they they already got the parts, so they don't
Speaker 1: even worried about anything. You talk about anything anyway, We
Speaker 1: got all these parts, right, which meant that they paid
Speaker 1: for it. So they was like, we're gonna get you.
Speaker 1: We'll we'll pay for the money, but we're still not
Speaker 1: gonna give your hostages. And we already got the pieces anyway.
Speaker 1: So so so the negotiation is done. So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: y'all want what y'all want to do. Y'all want, y'all
Speaker 1: gonna head back home, right, So he goes head back home.
Speaker 1: They all on the plane. So Oliver North calls back
Speaker 1: home and he tells and uh and he's and he's
Speaker 1: and and oh, I forgot this is an important part
Speaker 1: about this. Bud McFarland don't know about the diversion. Bud
Speaker 1: don't even know about the raising the price to to
Speaker 1: send it to to Iran like or to send it
Speaker 1: to uh Nicaraga. He don't even know. Because again the
Speaker 1: c i A like, they're not they don't like the
Speaker 1: NSC right. All these organizations are greedy they all want
Speaker 1: to be like running shipped through themselves, so like everybody's
Speaker 1: compartmentalizing information and stuff. Yeah. Head, so they on the plane. So,
Speaker 1: uh they on the plane right now, on their way
Speaker 1: back home, and they're like damn dude, like Ali, like,
Speaker 1: damn man, that's dang. It didn't work again. But at
Speaker 1: least we got the dough for the for the contrast.
Speaker 1: He just slips, or at least we got the doll
Speaker 1: for the contrast, right, and but it's like, yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: what we got to what now? So he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he just dry snitched on himself. So now he's like, uh, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I guess I guess that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: So he's like, well, tell the President that the negotiation failed, right,
Speaker 1: I guess that's it. So flashback to eighty six. We're
Speaker 1: still trying to deal with Nicaragua. Right. So finally August six,
Speaker 1: Reagan finally convinces the Congress to pass to Chill on
Speaker 1: the Bowling Act. Right, so there's a hundred million dollars
Speaker 1: appropriation bill. Now keep in mind, we been paying these
Speaker 1: foods for three years, Joe said, but now you didn't.
Speaker 1: Finally got the Congress to agree to a hundred million
Speaker 1: dollars appropriation bill. The Republican Republican just like back then,
Speaker 1: just like now, are like, yo, let's ride. The Democrats
Speaker 1: are like okay, cool, wait, but we have so many questions,
Speaker 1: like we're just you're just gonna cut a check for
Speaker 1: these people, Like what, okay, can we can we discuss
Speaker 1: this a little bit? Didn't answer. This man named Lee
Speaker 1: Hamilton's right, he's from the Intelligence Committee in the Congress,
Speaker 1: And he asked Oliver North and them like, okay, listen, bro,
Speaker 1: we've been We've been discussing this ship for a while.
Speaker 1: I need you to keep it a whole century with me,
Speaker 1: keep it a buck with me, bro a hundred keep
Speaker 1: it real. You've been down there with the contrasts already.
Speaker 1: Have you been given them military advice this whole time? Son? Right?
Speaker 1: And it's like, listen, we don't look the laws already passed. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's already fast, bro. And he's a lot of this
Speaker 1: is happening in d C. Like he's meeting with their
Speaker 1: reps and handing them fucking bags of cash that he
Speaker 1: takes out of a safe in the fucking headquarters of
Speaker 1: the US government. It's fucking it's so funny. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: it's such just like crime stuff. Like it's not like
Speaker 1: they just they did a thing and then found out after,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we violated some sort of congression Like no, no, dude,
Speaker 1: you're you're shoving bearer bonds into a sack to hand
Speaker 1: him to a dude who you are now telling how
Speaker 1: to kill people like it is the war's equivalent of
Speaker 1: Shaggy's classic song it wasn't me. That's right, that's right there,
Speaker 1: you got me in a shower, it wasn't me, Like
Speaker 1: you just cut just picture it where he uh, what's
Speaker 1: that fucking service? You can pay famous people who are
Speaker 1: kind of on the down slide to record videos for you?
Speaker 1: What is that? Uh? Is all the north On cameo?
Speaker 1: We could get him to do that. It would be
Speaker 1: pretty Yes, you just oh man, it's so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's totally a movie. It's like when you
Speaker 1: ask when you ask him, hey, have you been doing
Speaker 1: this already? You just cut to the flashbacks of him
Speaker 1: doing all this ship and him being like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: know this is the great place you want to be.
Speaker 1: I know what y'all know. If you're the one doing
Speaker 1: the crimes. It's better for me to know how much
Speaker 1: everybody else knows. And I know y'all don't know ship, right,
Speaker 1: So you need to craft the answer to say, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna only give you an answer that confirms what I
Speaker 1: know you already know, and only as much as I know.
Speaker 1: So his answer quote, Well, I'm a military man, and
Speaker 1: when I sit down with other military men, it's inconceivable
Speaker 1: that we won't talk about military things. So even if
Speaker 1: I thought I could give them good advice, you and
Speaker 1: I both know we can't run this war from Washington, okay.
Speaker 1: Unquote okay some text, Uh yeah, we're actually running this
Speaker 1: war from Washington. Yeah. And they're literally like giving them
Speaker 1: stuff like, hey, we need you guys to do an offensive.
Speaker 1: Now you've got to like try to take this area,
Speaker 1: this these camps and stuff back because we need to
Speaker 1: be able to like put some victors, some some dubs
Speaker 1: on the board. Like it's very direct coordination. He's literally
Speaker 1: coordinating this war. And then they asked him something like, hey,
Speaker 1: uh look, just just keep it real. Have y'all been
Speaker 1: raising money for the Constress? He was like nah, uh nah,
Speaker 1: what what wait? Like raising money. Uh nah, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: but hey, hey yo, hey, we weren't. No, we haven't
Speaker 1: raising money, wine Burger, do do you know? Vid? No,
Speaker 1: we haven't raising no money. That's cool, right, And the
Speaker 1: Congress is like, well, I guess that covers it. So
Speaker 1: uh he said no, So I mean he said he didn't.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess you want to cut the check? Everybody?
Speaker 1: Everybody good, every good? We cut the check. Right, we
Speaker 1: did our work, We did our job. We're supposed to
Speaker 1: ask he said, no, I don't know to tell you. Right,
Speaker 1: the rest of just paperwork seems easy. M hm. Right
Speaker 1: now we are now back at October of right before
Speaker 1: the money was supposed to get cleared. Right before this,
Speaker 1: a hunted Milly was supposed to get clear. Jean from
Speaker 1: Wisconsin had asked, getting shot out of the sky, Oh
Speaker 1: Jean got dammit, Geen? Fuck did all of Jean? What
Speaker 1: do you do? And your name is Gene and you're
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. What are you doing in Nicara doing? Come on?
Speaker 1: Hassing foss is this ship? Get get out of here?
Speaker 1: So Bill Casey like, look, burned the books, now I'll
Speaker 1: get out. Now, we got to get out. Now we
Speaker 1: coat we burnt blow yeah, start throwing some ship in
Speaker 1: the furnace. Yes, look, everybody shredding. It is not going
Speaker 1: to be Oliver North player. Everybody, you ain't gotta go home.
Speaker 1: You gotta get the hell out of here. Dog right,
Speaker 1: time to go, Time to go, down to go, everybody,
Speaker 1: time to go. Now, this him near burnt the White
Speaker 1: House down behind them. Yes, this is the This is
Speaker 1: the famous ship that I remember being a very small
Speaker 1: child and seeing on television. Right and and don't that
Speaker 1: what's her name? Uh? President Biden just talked about UH
Speaker 1: officers getting reparations over this ship, right is? He says, says,
Speaker 1: everybody gotta go home. We need no evidence. And by
Speaker 1: I mean no evidence, I mean we are bulldozing these buildings,
Speaker 1: digging a big hole, throwing everything in the pill everything
Speaker 1: in the old nigga, the chairs, the printer, the desks,
Speaker 1: the water cooler, everything going this whole burn the ship
Speaker 1: on fire, and the man the jungles in Nicaragua, just
Speaker 1: burn the ship, burn it off like burn everything, right,
Speaker 1: So why everything getting burned? Gene from Wisconsin had asked,
Speaker 1: is doing an interview with Mike Wallace on sixty minutes? Awesome?
Speaker 1: Good call, Jean get your money, Jean. I have so
Speaker 1: much respect for Gene, for Gene from Wisconsin, because Jene,
Speaker 1: it was like, you're gonna pay me to do what?
Speaker 1: To fly? To fly where? Word? Oh oh, y'all nothing okay?
Speaker 1: And you just you guys, you guys just said you
Speaker 1: don't know. Man, You just said exactly, I don't know
Speaker 1: what kind of cards do you think you had left
Speaker 1: over me here? Because when worst came to worst, when
Speaker 1: we was down, when ship hit the fan, do you
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying? You was not down? Okay? Cool,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get my money. Then you know what
Speaker 1: I say. I look, Gene, Gene and the Iranians are
Speaker 1: the realist people in this story. Yeah. Ja was like,
Speaker 1: all right, so well now that's bullshit. This is what
Speaker 1: they had me do. My man was on sixty minutes
Speaker 1: telling this old story. So then, oh man, so now
Speaker 1: but although in October of eighteen eight or nine eight six,
Speaker 1: because the bolden Act thing was repealed, they really now
Speaker 1: we don't need no diversion, so we can stop, we
Speaker 1: can stop like trying to hide it out all this stuff. Right,
Speaker 1: But uh, as long as like Reagan said, everybody keeps
Speaker 1: stay mouth shut. However, as we all know, no one
Speaker 1: ever keeps their mouth shut. Now, then in the history
Speaker 1: of keeping your mouth shut, no one ever keeps stay
Speaker 1: mouth shut. We did an episode on her politics about like,
Speaker 1: like how many years you gotta throw somebody before they
Speaker 1: start snitching? You know, And I don't care how hard
Speaker 1: of a gangster they are, Like year five years, that's
Speaker 1: a vacation. You have somebody hold you know, hold your money,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like holiday was cool, Like
Speaker 1: as long as you're good, you got enough people in
Speaker 1: the sin, you could do a year, you could do
Speaker 1: two years. Start talking about ten years, you start talking
Speaker 1: about twenty five years. They people start sounding like Mariah
Speaker 1: carry out this mouth like you become you become Rihanna,
Speaker 1: like food starts singing when you throw enough time on him. Right.
Speaker 1: And also, if you're a journalist, oh there's some pulletzer
Speaker 1: prise ship, Like you're gonna change your life forever you
Speaker 1: break this story. So in November of a newspaper in
Speaker 1: Lebanon called Al Shara drops the expose and fam day
Speaker 1: name names everybody involved, Day name names dead, fool Day
Speaker 1: lit this thing up. Now all of America is like, Uh,
Speaker 1: what the hell, White House, y'all got something to say?
Speaker 1: The White House is like, oh, uh what this is
Speaker 1: so weird. I don't what are you talking about? I
Speaker 1: don't know what she's talking about. That's crazy, right, it's crazy, right,
Speaker 1: she was saying. You see all that that they said,
Speaker 1: it's crazy, right, I don't know, right, So you can
Speaker 1: kind of play it off. But again, everyone snitches, and
Speaker 1: not only does everyone snitch when you have somebody like
Speaker 1: a character like a Ronald Reagan, right, which is what
Speaker 1: you're watching play out in a lot of ways, just
Speaker 1: in a very uncouth way with Donald Trump, in the
Speaker 1: sense that if a person feels like they too smooth
Speaker 1: to get caught, they'll start dry snitching on themselves. Then
Speaker 1: they don't listen to That's That's the one thing about
Speaker 1: learned about a narcissist. A narcissist will always reveal their play,
Speaker 1: always because they need you to stroke their ego, right,
Speaker 1: They need you, they need you to be impressed about
Speaker 1: their prowess. So and they're gonna go off script because
Speaker 1: they believe they're invincible always in the same way that
Speaker 1: Trump snitched on itself about about the box of clas
Speaker 1: to find documents that was laid out on the floor
Speaker 1: when he was like, man, they spread it out there,
Speaker 1: they spread all that ship out on the floor, Like
Speaker 1: I was a slob. I kept all my documents in
Speaker 1: a nice folder. Oh, we're the documents that you ain't
Speaker 1: supposed to have, the ones that you said that you
Speaker 1: already gave back Joe till. I'm like, fam, you just
Speaker 1: you just dry snitched, Like, oh so you do got
Speaker 1: the documents right, right, So we're gonna watch President uh
Speaker 1: Reagan continue to try to try to dance right now,
Speaker 1: the first person to actually snitch is the weirdo Don Reagan, right, um,
Speaker 1: Because again, if you're in a situation like this, like
Speaker 1: you have to, like anybody in this situation, who do
Speaker 1: you think everybody's gonna try to protect? I mean the boss? Right,
Speaker 1: You're gone. Yeah, that's the way that works, especially like
Speaker 1: Ronald is he's gotten reelected by the point that this breaks,
Speaker 1: but he's also kind of losing his ship, right Like
Speaker 1: he's he's seriously like Nancy is kind of running things
Speaker 1: for a large chunk of this. Yeah. Yeah, so Nancy's
Speaker 1: running up. He's he's starting to lose his marbles. But
Speaker 1: he's still to don't He's still to boss. And if
Speaker 1: you know that, you start what you should do is
Speaker 1: start calculating where on the totem pole you are, because
Speaker 1: the lower you are, the most likely you're gonna get
Speaker 1: thrown to the wolves. Right, So, if you got any sense,
Speaker 1: you like, I need to set this shut up for
Speaker 1: myself because you're not gonna look out for me. You'll
Speaker 1: remember Jeane Hawson fast from Wisconsin. You're not gonna look
Speaker 1: out for me, you know what I'm saying. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you you should know what this situation right. Um, but
Speaker 1: now this now that's now this snitch Don Reagan, who
Speaker 1: nobody knows it's a snitch at the time. They call
Speaker 1: Washington Post. Um, they say, he say the President didn't
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with it. He was trying to like,
Speaker 1: which is which is quite a calculation for him. He's like,
Speaker 1: all right, let me not I'm a snitch, but not
Speaker 1: on the big Boss, because I don't want that to
Speaker 1: come back and bite me in the ass later. So
Speaker 1: he snitches and the person he throws under the bus
Speaker 1: is Bud McFarlane. Yeah, and he says that man never
Speaker 1: told the president what he was doing. Of course that's
Speaker 1: a lie president, of course, And and and there's yeah, the
Speaker 1: President definitely knew. There are a bunch of shady things
Speaker 1: where like McFarland will say, well, no, I got his
Speaker 1: specific approval before I did this thing, and it'll be like, well,
Speaker 1: when did you do that? Well, I called him and
Speaker 1: he's like, well, there's not a record of this phone call.
Speaker 1: And there's now there's other records of Reagan knowing about it,
Speaker 1: Like yeah, you know, that doesn't mean on the day
Speaker 1: to day. Just to make the point, McFarland absolutely lies,
Speaker 1: of course what Reagan knew, but Reagan also knew, although
Speaker 1: it is possible that the Alzheimer's caused him to lose
Speaker 1: significant pieces of it. Absolutely, And it's like and when
Speaker 1: you run in a lick like this, and especially like
Speaker 1: Bud McFarland and Ronald Reagan, like they're actually like buddies,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So it's very possible that
Speaker 1: like he is just like calling on a fly, like oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, they're just hanging out or something. It's like,
Speaker 1: by the way, but it was during a thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta send six million to yeah to Iron You cool, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like you dialing around like
Speaker 1: the what specifically did the president? No, well that's a
Speaker 1: harder question to answer. But did did the president know
Speaker 1: and approve of the plan? Yes? Absolutely? Yeah yeah so
Speaker 1: so uh so the hope was that, like listen, tell this,
Speaker 1: tell this, tell this cover story. Ed Meee was the
Speaker 1: Attorney General at the time, and he's like, listen, Bud,
Speaker 1: Bud retired, right, So Budd retired. He's not gonna lose
Speaker 1: his job. If we put everything on Bud, Bud knows everything,
Speaker 1: We're we're cool, right, like, then then that way we
Speaker 1: can get out of it. That's the story, Ronnie. That's
Speaker 1: the story, is like Budd did the thing. Here's the
Speaker 1: situation point. Dexter hollazat at Bud and he says, yo,
Speaker 1: if you tell Donna back off, like Don out here
Speaker 1: trying to like drag me. I remember I said later
Speaker 1: on that Don tells this story to the press that
Speaker 1: Budd is cheating on his wife, just like just a
Speaker 1: dick hole, right, So Bud, it's like, okay, I'll take
Speaker 1: some of this seat, but fuck Don Reagan, like you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you're not gonna do this
Speaker 1: to me like this, He's like, okay, cool, just protect
Speaker 1: the president. Now, reaganga and slaughtered. This is this is
Speaker 1: the least popular he ever is. He kinds of has
Speaker 1: a breakdown around this point. Nancy is running the show.
Speaker 1: He's basically hiding and watching like old movies on television.
Speaker 1: No one can reach him. Um, they actually there is
Speaker 1: a period of time where they consider, um, they actually
Speaker 1: like bringing an outside guy to secretly analyze Reagan whether
Speaker 1: or not they need to do a twenty fifth Amendment
Speaker 1: and like pull his ass over there because he was
Speaker 1: losing it, which is how he how he dipped dipped
Speaker 1: out of impeachment. Yeah. I was like, well, don't be cool. Um,
Speaker 1: so he getting slaughtered and guess what, dim hostages is
Speaker 1: still in Iran, which is still funny to me. It's
Speaker 1: not funny because that's their life. But it's like all
Speaker 1: this ship and you still ain't got the hostages. Uh.
Speaker 1: But he says he has to make some sort of statement. Now,
Speaker 1: if you are Reagan again, your pride is involved here? Right.
Speaker 1: If the story is they're doing all this ship up
Speaker 1: under my nose and I don't know it, then I
Speaker 1: look like a punk. You know what I'm saying, So, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how cool I am with this point,
Speaker 1: Dexter says, Listen, he tells the press. Uh, listen, it
Speaker 1: was I know everybody was saying this was about arms
Speaker 1: for hostages, and it was not FAM. This was always
Speaker 1: about being good with Iran because everybody know they're crazy
Speaker 1: over there, so we needed to make sure that we
Speaker 1: was good over there. We was tapped in. Everything was cool,
Speaker 1: and it all happened in eight six. Anything before that, Yo,
Speaker 1: that was Israel like it Remember that was the cover
Speaker 1: the whole time, running through Israel. So that when you can,
Speaker 1: so you can tell your people if it do come
Speaker 1: out like, oh, I don't know, FAM, that was Israel.
Speaker 1: Like whatever they did with them that I don't know.
Speaker 1: You could check the ledgers. We would sell and them
Speaker 1: stuff because that's what we do. We've been selling them
Speaker 1: stuff for years. Like I don't understand the problem, right, uh,
Speaker 1: but everybody knows. Look, man, somebody's got a role. Don
Speaker 1: Reagan's Like, listen, man, head gotta roll. This story ain't
Speaker 1: gonna hold up. People gonna figure this out. And as
Speaker 1: long as that head ain't Reagan, we're gonna be cool. Right. So,
Speaker 1: h Reagan goes with the story, right, but he got
Speaker 1: to go talk to Congress right now, This is where
Speaker 1: it gets super funny. Right. So now we're in November twelve,
Speaker 1: this is six and Reagan gotta talk to talk to Congress. Right,
Speaker 1: We're talking Bob Dole, We're talking bit Cheney, right, all
Speaker 1: these like big, big like Reagan stands that ended up
Speaker 1: ruining and most of our childhood as they became part
Speaker 1: of the leadership of our government. Right. Uh So the
Speaker 1: Congress is like, okay, fam, when did this start? Uh? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: I think it started in November five, but we don't
Speaker 1: do no transfers to the heaters until six. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's a total lie, right uh And the
Speaker 1: Reagan says, Yo, yeah, this was like a clandestine thing
Speaker 1: because we don't negotiate with people. That ship is a lie.
Speaker 1: He out here trying to be a cowboy, like you
Speaker 1: think you really y'all really think y'all really think I'm
Speaker 1: that much of a punk. Then I'm gonna be out
Speaker 1: here negotiating with these terrorists. That's a lie. Fam. I
Speaker 1: don't be negotiating with no terrorists. That's not what I did.
Speaker 1: I had this clandestine ship and and and point dexter
Speaker 1: in them is like, NIGGD. If you don't shut the
Speaker 1: funk up, you're not supposed to know what happened. That
Speaker 1: was the story. The storyline is, you don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: He's like, nah, man, I let them make sure they
Speaker 1: we don't negotiate with terrorists. Like okay, fam, oh lord,
Speaker 1: here we go. So after all this, Shultz meets with
Speaker 1: everybody and he's like, George Schultz is like, Fam, I
Speaker 1: tried to tell y'all this ship wasn't gonna work. I
Speaker 1: tried to tell y'all this what's gonna happen, right, And
Speaker 1: Don is like, look, if everybody stick to the script,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be cool, right Uh. But Shultz is like, listen,
Speaker 1: this math ain't mathing. Everybody gonna figure this out. This
Speaker 1: is Watergate all over again. Right, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 1: It's I'm trying to tell y'all Reagan losing his marbles, right,
Speaker 1: don't let this man talk. But I'm telling you. Shoult
Speaker 1: is like, fam, who were gonna throw under the bus
Speaker 1: because they gonna figure this ship out? Like, people are
Speaker 1: not stupid. This story don't make sense. The story we're
Speaker 1: telling them don't make sense, and the numbers are obvious. Right,
Speaker 1: this is Watergate all over again. So then now it's
Speaker 1: like Reagan again with his like I'm a superhero, was like, okay, listen,
Speaker 1: let me go ahead and talk to the nation. When
Speaker 1: now in this situation, anybody who got any sort of
Speaker 1: like street you know, any sort of like street wisdom,
Speaker 1: would know that you are now in a posit and
Speaker 1: where you are going to look people in the face
Speaker 1: and lie to him. So you this was wrong. This
Speaker 1: is not the move, fam, because now you officially lied
Speaker 1: to our face. Right before it was confusing, before it
Speaker 1: was just uh, just you know, ambiguous. Now you've been
Speaker 1: a lot to us, right, So he was like, listen,
Speaker 1: what they're saying about me ain't true. I made no
Speaker 1: concessions and we didn't get him no gun guns America. Like, Fam,
Speaker 1: he's gonna lie to us like that, like this is
Speaker 1: so obvious what you did. And he like, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to tell y'all, this ain't one we did. Right that
Speaker 1: same day, point Dexter getting grilled, right, and he like, listen, dog,
Speaker 1: we ain't getting more weapons. Okay, maybe a few weapons
Speaker 1: because a couple of weapons, a couple right, and then
Speaker 1: Reagan on November ninety doubling down, and reporter says, Yo,
Speaker 1: then this is the part that like went viral if
Speaker 1: their version of viral. Right, one of the reporter it
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, you say you ain't trade no weapons
Speaker 1: for hostages, but um, every time one of them hostages
Speaker 1: kind of came home, the records show a major shipment
Speaker 1: of guns. Uh, what's that about. That's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: It's like when a hostage lands weapons leave. That kind
Speaker 1: of seemed like, I mean, I'm just reading the ledger,
Speaker 1: it kind of seemed like you was giving weapons for hostages, right,
Speaker 1: that kind of looked like that and breaking in them. Like, look, dude,
Speaker 1: ship weapons all the time. If it happens at the
Speaker 1: same day, I mean, I don't tell you, fami, it
Speaker 1: just kind of happened at the same time, right. Uh.
Speaker 1: And it's just your lie getting getting worse and worse
Speaker 1: and getting paper thin. Somebody's gonna figure this ship out.
Speaker 1: Somebody gonna have to take this fall because the script
Speaker 1: ain't working and the scripts only kind of true, right,
Speaker 1: and Reagan keep talking too much the more you talk,
Speaker 1: because he feeling like you know, you know, when you
Speaker 1: lying and people figuring out your lie, yo, yo, yo yo,
Speaker 1: your instinct is to double down. But once you start
Speaker 1: doubling down, like I said, you start dry snitching. It's
Speaker 1: getting worse and worse and worse. And your story is
Speaker 1: not adding up. This It don't make sense. This is
Speaker 1: what's playing off all over the news. If Twitter was
Speaker 1: around on this time, this would be just a great
Speaker 1: time in Twitter. The sit not making sense right November twenty,
Speaker 1: Shultz is telling him, like, listen, bro, just come clean right,
Speaker 1: just this. They're gonna figure it out. And if they
Speaker 1: figure it out, it's worse, right, And Reagan does text
Speaker 1: buck White Boys stuff, and he says, uh, listen, I
Speaker 1: didn't mean this is great again textbook. Why didn't mean
Speaker 1: to sell weapons for hostages? So if I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to do it, I didn't do it. Yeah, my my
Speaker 1: heart tells me I didn't do it. But literally a
Speaker 1: thing he says, yes, So there's just this intention say
Speaker 1: we didn't do this, but all the evidence says we did.
Speaker 1: So who's to say what happened? Well that's my Reagan?
Speaker 1: Yes we so. Uh. The next day they like, look,
Speaker 1: this is we're gonna do. We're gonna lunch an internal investigation,
Speaker 1: right and mess like, look, let's launch an internal investigation.
Speaker 1: Let's figure out what's going on. Let's holler at the
Speaker 1: National Secretary Advisor, right, point Dexter and figure out these findings. Right,
Speaker 1: So point Dexter knows exactly what he gonna find out
Speaker 1: because he gonna find out that the papers that were
Speaker 1: supposed to be turned in and finding was never turned
Speaker 1: in and one of them was backlogged. So basically, when
Speaker 1: he finds them papers which we all know exist, is
Speaker 1: going to prove that the president knew everything. Right now,
Speaker 1: guess who else knows all this? Oliver mop and North Yep,
Speaker 1: he sure does. He know all this and got all
Speaker 1: the paper when everything comes into He's got it all.
Speaker 1: And if this fool got at all, there's a there's
Speaker 1: papers for everything. So he's like, well, what is the
Speaker 1: most logical thing to do right now? Probably the same
Speaker 1: thing you did in Nicaragua. You just gotta get rid
Speaker 1: of the evidence, right first, make a copy so I
Speaker 1: can have my own. You need to get rid of everything.
Speaker 1: This is These are serious felonies, y'all. Like, let's let's
Speaker 1: not let's Okay, I mean they can't shred government documents
Speaker 1: to cover up war crimes like this. This is terrible, right,
Speaker 1: So he calls his assistant like a dumbass. So he
Speaker 1: caused his assistant to go do it right, which again
Speaker 1: crime number one, one on one. You can't just send somebody,
Speaker 1: even I don't care how close this person is. You
Speaker 1: can't send somebody else to come do this. You need
Speaker 1: to make sure this ship is done correctly, right, because
Speaker 1: if anything is missed, everybody going to jail. So they
Speaker 1: go about and they shred fifteen months of correspondence, right,
Speaker 1: fifteen months and one and missed Robert. They missed one document. Well,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good, and that one document prove the whole
Speaker 1: thing of all the documents that they shredded. They did
Speaker 1: it shred. Follow me, follow me. The one document they
Speaker 1: did it shred was a memo entitled the diversion Memo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the crime note how to crime, How we're going to
Speaker 1: break the law repeatedly. Amazing, guys, what we're going to
Speaker 1: do that we're trying to cover up? Memo? You get
Speaker 1: so lazy when the whole apparatus of government is on
Speaker 1: your side, Like that's that's really what this is. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing you see from all these like right
Speaker 1: wing groups being like, here's our meeting chat where we're
Speaker 1: going to overthrow the government. Meanwhile, kids who are like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, burning a police car with nobody inside.
Speaker 1: It's been like years planning and like the rest of
Speaker 1: their lives, frightened that the laws behind them and burn
Speaker 1: all of their clothing, never see each other again. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the guys trying to overthrow the entire government, like, let's
Speaker 1: just do a signal loop for that, and I'll loopen
Speaker 1: my guy with the Trump White House and we'll just
Speaker 1: all get in the same group and figure out how
Speaker 1: we're gonna kill all those things. All good, bro, Literally
Speaker 1: a memo called the Diversion. Now you nerds like you
Speaker 1: named it the crime? What the hell is wrong with y'all?
Speaker 1: You know, saying so, so that's the one that got out,
Speaker 1: because that's the one they missed. Now by this point,
Speaker 1: Ed Meets knows everything you know. Reagan is still you know,
Speaker 1: stiff lift. I don't know what's going on. I do
Speaker 1: nothing wrong. Literally, the document shows that you absolutely did right.
Speaker 1: The NSC has got all kind of private memos right, Uh,
Speaker 1: they gotta blame somebody. Point dexter Finder resigned. Oliver North
Speaker 1: is the only person they can blame because it all
Speaker 1: came out of his office. Now, the next thing that
Speaker 1: happens is the independent investigation from Lauren Walsh. Now this
Speaker 1: be Now what happens, uh that what plays out in
Speaker 1: public is the part that a lot of us are
Speaker 1: familiar with. It's when a special investigator, this is their
Speaker 1: version of Robert Mueller, right comes on the scene and
Speaker 1: comes in. Just picture the slow motion and this dude's retired,
Speaker 1: like just the nerd, retired at home. I'm tired of
Speaker 1: doing this lawyer thing. They sent him this situation and
Speaker 1: he's like, oh ship, damn God, damn, Okay, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: investigate it. He do the investigation. Foods come on TV
Speaker 1: and what was what was televised? Which is so crazy,
Speaker 1: it's like just it's almost like the beginnings of how
Speaker 1: we see politics. Now. What was what was what was
Speaker 1: televised was the Oliver North trials, and that man ended
Speaker 1: up being on the cover of Time magazine as one
Speaker 1: of the greatest patriots. Because Oliver North figured out how
Speaker 1: to play the game. He was like, Okay, listen, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to jail for this ship. I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to jail as a patriot. And he became this like
Speaker 1: right wing superstar. Oh yeah, No, I watched his fucking
Speaker 1: TV show all the time when I was a kid.
Speaker 1: He got a TV show with Oliver North. I think
Speaker 1: he's still on the air Oliver North bro for running
Speaker 1: this thing. But basically he became the fall guy now
Speaker 1: years later, right, you go after so after President Reagan
Speaker 1: was President George Bush Sr. And there had to be
Speaker 1: an agreement that like, and you're not gonna like, You're
Speaker 1: not gonna impeach me later? Right, He's like, Fam, why
Speaker 1: in the hell would I impeach you later? Of course
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna because if I impeach you, Nigga, I'm
Speaker 1: going to jail because I was in the room the
Speaker 1: whole time. Fam, So why would I not do that?
Speaker 1: But a trial did happen where Reagan Ronald Reagan, believe
Speaker 1: it or not, This is the part that like surprised me.
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan was put on trial for this. It's just
Speaker 1: he was so far into his Alzheimer's at the time
Speaker 1: that he was able to be like, well, I don't recall, well,
Speaker 1: I don't recall he became the quote that all of
Speaker 1: us love, which is not to my recollection? Did you
Speaker 1: up not to my recollection? Would you there? I remember,
Speaker 1: not to my recollection. So President Reagan actually got it.
Speaker 1: Oh what, No one except for Oliver North I saw
Speaker 1: any real time? Yea, And yeah, all of our and
Speaker 1: Earth's war stories ran for fifteen years. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: my friend and all them Fox News dollars, and that,
Speaker 1: my friend is the Iran Constra scandal. What a what
Speaker 1: a great story. It really is a great story. I'm
Speaker 1: proud to be in American right now. And as you
Speaker 1: guys will find out in the book endings of these
Speaker 1: series that there was other ways that Nikkarabua thanked us.
Speaker 1: They did, they showed their gratitude in a way that
Speaker 1: uh was was deeply felt in the United States. And
Speaker 1: we will be getting into that, or have been getting
Speaker 1: into that, or are you're you'll hear that too. It's
Speaker 1: all coming out, it's all, it's all, it's all going
Speaker 1: to be in your ears, this this whole week. Yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 1: In this stage of of recording, we actually don't know
Speaker 1: which order these episodes are coming out we're working it out, yes,
Speaker 1: but but anyway, so that's it. I ran contra uh so,
Speaker 1: who's the bastard? Uh n s e c I A
Speaker 1: Ronald Reaga. I don't know at the point. All the
Speaker 1: North is my favorite guy in it, just because he's
Speaker 1: such like he's such a fucking criminal and such a
Speaker 1: bad criminal, and it's really funny how bad he is
Speaker 1: it doing crime. It really is. Yeah, I gotta give
Speaker 1: my vote to Ali. Yeah, and then I'm like, but
Speaker 1: then I'm like, again, real ones, my real ones in
Speaker 1: this story. I still Bona farre still my favorite. Oh yeah, Now,
Speaker 1: Gabonafar is the actual, like coolest dude. He's the coolest
Speaker 1: dude in here. He's an absolute war criminal, but he
Speaker 1: is the coolest dude in his story of the war criminals.
Speaker 1: He's he's just such a little scamp. It's like, you're
Speaker 1: gonna just rob him again, aren't you, buddy? Yeah you did.
Speaker 1: You fucked him over again again. Bro, They're never gonna
Speaker 1: catch on and just and just he saw it, like
Speaker 1: he just disappears from the record. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: have no idea. Last thing they talked about him and
Speaker 1: all the records was he cast a million dollar check.
Speaker 1: Ain't seen him a sin he probably and some other
Speaker 1: records I couldn't find. No where are they now? Is
Speaker 1: Wi Goo Bonafar? Yeah? Why would you know? You? You
Speaker 1: you go right off into the sunset with all of
Speaker 1: the money that you made. Yeah, and Gene from Wisconsin's
Speaker 1: head asked, I don't know where he is either, but
Speaker 1: I still love the fact that that man did a
Speaker 1: sixty minutes. We could probably we could probably find that way, Gene.
Speaker 1: I I wish you the very best of luck, gen Um.
Speaker 1: Just stay the funk away from Nicaragua. Just don't don't
Speaker 1: be flying no weapons in Nicara. Yeah, we're good, We're good.
Speaker 1: You fl me some weapons, Gene. Dude, I would love
Speaker 1: to go visit. Gene. Just be like, yo, just tell
Speaker 1: tell me some stories, bro, Like tell you what with
Speaker 1: Like how many missions did you run? Like they don't
Speaker 1: say that, you know what I'm saying, Like did you
Speaker 1: ever get a chance to actually kick it in Nicara?
Speaker 1: They're not gonna they're not gonna say that telling nobody
Speaker 1: that hilarious. Yeah, well that's about it. Robert Evans behind
Speaker 1: the Bastards pod I right, Okay, After the revolution, you
Speaker 1: can find it on a K press. You can find
Speaker 1: it on a K press. That's right, Sophie. You know
Speaker 1: what else you can find is my book everywhere else? Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's available everywhere else. So just google After the
Speaker 1: Revolution Robert Evans and buy the book from wherever Amazon,
Speaker 1: local bookstore, independent bookstore, a K press, I don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Mark Margaret Kildoy also has a book, uh cut
Speaker 1: that's it. Depending on when this is, it's either before
Speaker 1: or after it drops, which is on September. And it's
Speaker 1: also from from a K press and uh, if you
Speaker 1: preorder it, you can get a nice little book sleeve
Speaker 1: cover artwork situation and it's called we Won't be here Tomorrow.
Speaker 1: That's my plug is for Robert and Margaret's books. That
Speaker 1: is a great plug, thank you. Sophie has a book too,
Speaker 1: called Terraform. It's a poetry and short story. There's also
Speaker 1: a cold brew called Terraform cold Brew. If you're into
Speaker 1: coffee stuff. It's delicious. I put it on the screen
Speaker 1: as if y'all can see it. But the point is
Speaker 1: it's very delicious. You can order that Terraform cold brew
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Speaker 1: is amazing. I love Props book and it's also just
Speaker 1: like a very beautiful beautiful cover cover and just like
Speaker 1: I love I love it. I have as signed copy, Brack,
Speaker 1: Yes you do. Um who else has a book? Let's think? Uh?
Speaker 1: No one, those are the only books ever written. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm thinking of what's displayed on my book. Oh,
Speaker 1: Jake Hanrahan has has a book too. You could get
Speaker 1: Jake Hanrahand's book. It's called Gargoyle. Yeah that's it, right, yep,
Speaker 1: by him? All right, love good. The bastards