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Speaker 1: one's hate. This one's even better. If they were playing

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Speaker 1: the Braves and swept the Braves, that's great. But boy,

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Speaker 1: if they win the second game and they beat the

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Speaker 1: Yankees and shut up all their fans, that will put

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Speaker 1: that will be the best rivalry I've seen the Astros

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Speaker 1: app well. The reason I brought it up is because

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Speaker 1: they're one in four all time in the postseason against

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Speaker 1: the Braves and playoffs series, including that World Series loss

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Speaker 1: that we want to forget about. But it's a good

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Speaker 1: point you make. It's a good point based on what

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Speaker 1: happened in twenty seventeen and everything else and everyone's feelings

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Speaker 1: involved general. Thanks so much. We look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you at training camp next week. But we'll have training

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Speaker 1: camp EVE programming one week from tonight. Thanks a lot,

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Speaker 1: Mark and John, thank you very much. I'll look forward

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Speaker 1: to talking to you next Thursday night and every day

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Speaker 1: at training camp. Let's do it. John McClain joining us

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Speaker 1: every day in training camp. Why not? Nick Casserio kicks

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Speaker 1: off our training camp coverage one week from tomorrow morning

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Speaker 1: at the Houston Methodist Training Center, So excited about that. Also,

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Speaker 1: Who's Better coming up? John Harris evaluates college and young

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Speaker 1: professional quarterbacks. Also, I'll have the question I just asked,

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Speaker 1: also Texans opponent question. Also historical question because we do

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Speaker 1: The drive continues, it does, and Mark Vandermair here you there.

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Speaker 1: John Harris with us as well as we're on the

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Speaker 1: Honday Texans Radio studio, which is anywhere we want it

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Speaker 1: to be because it's twenty twenty two and Johnny, I

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Speaker 1: didn't put it on Instagram, but I did take a

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Speaker 1: little video of us taking apart the studio equipment today

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Speaker 1: that was actually installed. Texans Radio was born ten years ago.

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Speaker 1: Two twelve is when we started up these kinds of

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Speaker 1: not state of the art anymore, and we're upgrading, and man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, did we dig up some stuff today. I

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Speaker 1: thought I saw a Phantom of the Opera behind the

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Speaker 1: rack that we have with the wiring. I thought it

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Speaker 1: was like Michael Crawford and singing was heard. It was

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Speaker 1: very strange. But we're gonna have all this cool stuff

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Speaker 1: in there, and it's really not much. You don't need

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Speaker 1: much to go on the radio these days. It's expensive,

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Speaker 1: but it's not much so and you know me, I

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Speaker 1: am highly highly OCD. So the spiderwebs of wires that

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Speaker 1: were back there just always like I've always wanted to

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Speaker 1: kind of just tear it apart and start over. And

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Speaker 1: but with taking all those wires and it's it's just

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Speaker 1: interesting to see how things have have sort of changed

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Speaker 1: but yet this is nice and new. It's we're good.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be the rack. Oh yeah. It was so

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Speaker 1: excited when we got that, and I'm excited about this

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Speaker 1: stuff today. And we'll have more on that later. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's play Who's Better? We do this just about every Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, Johnny. I'm gonna turn this into a question

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Speaker 1: sort of who's better segment. I'm gonna sort of get

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Speaker 1: off the format a little bit. It's kind of like

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Speaker 1: who's the worst? And will there be a worst? Will

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Speaker 1: the Texans play the team that ends up with the

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Speaker 1: top pick in the draft this year? Is the team

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Speaker 1: with the twenty twenty three top pick on the schedule

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Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans, It's not gonna be in a Texans.

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Speaker 1: Shut up. Everybody out there thinking that it's not even

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Speaker 1: a possibility. Stop it. So are they gonna play the

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Speaker 1: team with the number one pick? Is it the Giants?

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars? Is it the Bears possibly is the team

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Speaker 1: on their schedule. Those are the three teams that I

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Speaker 1: came up with that as soon as you started to question,

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Speaker 1: that's where I went, especially the Bears, and I just

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Speaker 1: I know the defense is good enough you would think.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about the Bears the last

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Speaker 1: few years, you're like, oh, they got Kleil Mack and

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Speaker 1: they got a key mix, and it's like, well, wait

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Speaker 1: a second, No, Now they do have ro Quan Smith

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Speaker 1: and they get Jackson and that defense will be okay.

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Speaker 1: But they're missing some and I shouldn't even say missing

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Speaker 1: because they're not getting back. They've lost a couple of

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Speaker 1: really exceptional pieces to that defense upfront, which made that

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Speaker 1: that defense great. So what makes the offense great? I

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Speaker 1: do think justin fields will be better without having to

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Speaker 1: deal with the Matt and Aggy offensive regime, which just

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Speaker 1: wasn't work. I mean, Nick Foles pretty much spilled that

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Speaker 1: tea on Monday Night Football when he told him on

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Speaker 1: a football crew he won't even call those places because

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Speaker 1: he knows they don't work. He just knows, and he's like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not calling it anyways. Point being, I

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Speaker 1: think the Bears are a good candidate for it. I

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Speaker 1: know the Giants have added Kbon Thibadeau and Evan Neil,

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Speaker 1: but as Sequon Barkley remains kind of what he's been.

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Speaker 1: What really what the New York Giants do? You get

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Speaker 1: excited about? It? Certainly isn't Danielle Jones. Danielle Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: So I think those are the three that I would

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Speaker 1: say are in are in contention. And what would be

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Speaker 1: really awesome is if there is a suspension in a

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Speaker 1: particular city and that team just can't get on track

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Speaker 1: and they end up having just an awful season. Boy

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Speaker 1: that how oh my gosh, hots of with that? Oh wow?

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Speaker 1: So um, you know from that, And that's that's kind

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Speaker 1: of the It's kind of the hope to me in

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Speaker 1: in some sense, is that either the Texans pick or

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Speaker 1: the Browns pick over the next couple of years kind

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Speaker 1: of can turn into uh like what the Dolphins did

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Speaker 1: with Laramie Tunsel, except that they draft better. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that the Dolphins ultimately drafted all that well with

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Speaker 1: all the draft picks that got into Laramie Tunsel deal,

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Speaker 1: outside of maneuvering to get Jalen Waddle. But what they

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Speaker 1: did and how they did it just made that one

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Speaker 1: trade for Laramie Tunsel the kind of the gift that

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Speaker 1: kept on giving, and hopefully that's what it happens with

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Speaker 1: the Shaw Watson. But I ultimately think the team of

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Speaker 1: the number one pick ends up being one of those

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Speaker 1: three teams and the Texans will face one of them. Hey,

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Speaker 1: by the way, sidebar here the music that our producer

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Speaker 1: Chris Santiago is playing in the background. Here. This is

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Speaker 1: the what I call new NFL Films music, meaning it's

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Speaker 1: still throwback, but it's throwback to NFL Primetime with Chris Berman.

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Speaker 1: Because I can is that how it's labeled, Chris, if

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Speaker 1: Chris can jump on and tell us how it's labeled

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Speaker 1: in the studio, because I'm wondering. I can hear Chris

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Speaker 1: Berman's voice practically rumblin, stumblin, bumbling, oh boofoo, and he

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Speaker 1: runs in I mean that boof I'm sorry. I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't like Chris Berman and Josh

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Speaker 1: and it's the other night tweeted out during home run derby.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Burman did it better and it wasn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't think that was that great, but I think Burman

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Speaker 1: has a place in the heart of a lot of

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Speaker 1: NFL fans. He had some real estate in your brain

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Speaker 1: and feelings. As far as the way the league is covered,

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Speaker 1: that Sunday Night was so special. Okay, next too is better. Well,

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Speaker 1: we mentioned the Texans gonna play the team that ends

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Speaker 1: up with the top pick. Whoever does end up with

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Speaker 1: the time pick likely to take Bryce Young At this point, anyway,

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Speaker 1: things can change. Who's gonna have a better career, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young or Trevor Lawrence better career? Name it better career,

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Speaker 1: you know, And you know why I did this. I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean I was actually a little bit

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Speaker 1: of I was a little bit surprised. I was about

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Speaker 1: to take Umbridge with the fact that you're making Bryce

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Speaker 1: Young the number one overall pick. Well, could be will

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Speaker 1: anders should junior out of Alabama, could be CJ. Strout

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Speaker 1: out of Ohio State, who has been fantastic. You know,

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Speaker 1: there's a surprise quarterback that always steps up. And me

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Speaker 1: at this point three years ago, we didn't even know

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow was gonna be Joe Burrow. So from that perspective,

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Speaker 1: I do think and it's funny because I was actually

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Speaker 1: thinking about Bryce today when I was driving into the stadium,

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Speaker 1: and I was that's what it's thinking about Bryce as

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Speaker 1: a Texan or whatever, but just thinking about him as

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Speaker 1: a as a developed football player. When the guy was

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Speaker 1: at modern he played at one of the great high

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Speaker 1: schools in California, in the country actually in modern day.

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Speaker 1: And when I first watched him when he was a sophomore,

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Speaker 1: I thought, he used, he's tiny. He was tiny. He

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Speaker 1: looked like Derek Jeter back when Derek Jeter was in

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Speaker 1: high school and Derek Jeter was one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: pounds and I was watching the Captain documentary and they

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Speaker 1: showed him like, man, he's time. He was tiny, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, man, I don't know if he's ever

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Speaker 1: gonna develop in college because he's so small. But then

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Speaker 1: you watch Bryce throw the football, and he hits every throw.

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Speaker 1: He is magnificent work in the pocket. He is calm,

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Speaker 1: cool under pressure. He answers in the clutch like he

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Speaker 1: did against Auburn. He's got some fire when you need it.

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Speaker 1: But he's only six ft one ninety four. Trevor, on

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Speaker 1: the other hand, is six six two twenty five and

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Speaker 1: if he can just get Doug Peterson to work and

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Speaker 1: polish down those those those sore spots, those rust spots.

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Speaker 1: I think Trevor Lawrence is gonna end up being that guy.

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to fall into the heightweight speed category.

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Speaker 1: I think Bryce Young is gonna be a fabulous quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And if Trevor this year isn't cutting it, I mean

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Speaker 1: we see and there are still significant holes. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're not seeing it two years, well it can't

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Speaker 1: be Irban Meyer anymore. I mean that's the excuse that

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Speaker 1: that we're going on with Trevor Lawrence. And I was

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Speaker 1: a big proponent of Trevor Lawrence. I mean I remember

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Speaker 1: telling you and getting all mad during a game Andre

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Speaker 1: and I about the fact that oh my gosh, Jackson

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Speaker 1: getta number one pick to getting Trevor Lawrence. And You're like, God,

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Speaker 1: believe it when I see it. You know you gave it.

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Speaker 1: Gabrielle Glad says, Ah, that's that's what you gave it.

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Speaker 1: So there's a part of me the hopes you're right,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think you will be. I do think

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Speaker 1: that Trevor starts to turn it around this year. I

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Speaker 1: think the second half of this year is gonna be

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Speaker 1: when you watch Trevor and go, Okay, that's that's the guy.

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Speaker 1: I think. I think Bryce Bryce Young is gonna be fantastic,

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Speaker 1: but I think Trevor Lawrence is gonna be that. Plus

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Speaker 1: he's six six two twenty five and can do everything

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Speaker 1: on a football field, just a matter of having the

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Speaker 1: right leader, having the right people around him. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that he's all the way there yet with all that,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're getting there, and I think this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a big second half of the year

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Speaker 1: for him to show that he is the guy going

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Speaker 1: into the year three, no doubt. I wonder how many

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Speaker 1: years in his career, into his career he'll cut the hair.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna do it at some point. You know it's

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Speaker 1: coming off at something. He's such something. No, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: he's not cutting it. I mean, thirty two years old,

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Speaker 1: thirty three years old, he's cutting the hair at the last.

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Speaker 1: He's always had it. Why change, I don't know. We'll

642
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Speaker 1: see his brother, his brother. Have you seen his brother? No?

643
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Speaker 1: His brother is like an adult version of like an

644
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Speaker 1: adult under control version of Spaccoli. But it's long. It's

645
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Speaker 1: really long, like he's a surfer guy, thinks a little differently,

646
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Speaker 1: long long long hair. No, he's keeping he's keeping the locks. Probably.

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Speaker 1: So I heard a podcast where Sean Penn talks about

648
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Speaker 1: meeting the guy who inspired Jeff Speccoli later in life,

649
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: but he's with his family is killed and everything, and

650
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Speaker 1: he didn't even tell the guy. The guy doesn't even

651
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Speaker 1: know that he was the inspiration because of course Sean

652
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Speaker 1: Penn took it and ran with it, and Fast Times

653
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Speaker 1: is kind of relevant. Now. My kid knows about it

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Speaker 1: from Stranger Things because they reference Phoebe Kates and they

655
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Speaker 1: have the what's the car song they play when when

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Speaker 1: Phoebe's coming out in stereo something stereo? Yeah, yeah, moving

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Speaker 1: in stereo. So that's one of the eighties tunes that

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Speaker 1: they're playing in Stranger Things. Anyway, All right, back to

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Speaker 1: this Who's Better? Now, we're gonna go historical for you here,

660
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Speaker 1: just like we did with the movies. In this past tangent,

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Speaker 1: we took best quarterback, gut reaction, Who's better? And I

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Speaker 1: want you to rank maybe three of these guys best

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Speaker 1: quarterback not to win a Super Bowl? Who do you

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Speaker 1: have first? What is your gut reaction? Who just pops

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Speaker 1: into your brain, Dan Marino, I think that's the best.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think. I don't think it's even debatable.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be the one, right He's here are

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Speaker 1: other candidates for you? Yeah, other candidates. Let me let

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Speaker 1: me fire and say how many of them. I would

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Speaker 1: hear that list. I would put Jim Kelly next, I

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Speaker 1: would put I would put Dan Fouts after that, and

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Speaker 1: then I would go Philip Rivers at number four. Those

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Speaker 1: would be the four run off top of my head.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know you're asking this question, but those

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Speaker 1: are the four I would put top off top of

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Speaker 1: my head. I think that's solid. Warren Moon is also

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Speaker 1: up there. Look at the all time passing yardage leaders right,

678
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Speaker 1: and Rivers is the highest one on this list. Not

679
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Speaker 1: that this means everything, because there's inflation with passing yards

680
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Speaker 1: in college or pro football, but Rivers is sixth on

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Speaker 1: the all time list, sixty three thousand yards. No Super

682
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: Bowl wins, He's got at least what two or three

683
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Speaker 1: AFC Championship Game appearances. So that's good Marino. Obviously it's there.

684
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Speaker 1: He went to a Super Bowl, lost it. We all

685
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Speaker 1: thought he was going back. Plenty didn't do it. He's

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Speaker 1: right behind Rivers on the all time list. Then it's

687
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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan eighth overall. But I don't think that he's

688
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Speaker 1: gonna make our top five of greatest quarterbacks to not

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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, even though he could have, would have,

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Speaker 1: should have, And then you go down the list Warren

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Speaker 1: Moon thirteen, fran Tarkington fourteen. How about that. Fouts is

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Speaker 1: eighteenth on the all time yardage list, and I think

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Speaker 1: Fouts should be up there is one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: ones to not win one. He went to two AC

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Speaker 1: Championship games. And then Jim Kelly is twenty ninth on

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Speaker 1: the all time yardage list. But so what he went

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Speaker 1: to four Super Bowls in a row. That is strong stuff,

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Speaker 1: boys and girls. He also spent through three three years

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Speaker 1: in USFL YEP, that's gonna that obviously cost him. Let's

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Speaker 1: say he throws for it back at that point thirty

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Speaker 1: five hundred to four thousand yards. I mean, that was

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00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: that was a tall task back then. But even if

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Speaker 1: he throws, say he throws for thirty five hundred in

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Speaker 1: three years, that's another ten thousand and five hundred tack

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Speaker 1: onto his yardage level because he was gonna start immediately

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Speaker 1: upon being in Buffalo. So say you tack on another

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Speaker 1: ten grand onto his passing number, that puts him up there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, Warren Warre Mood would be my top four.

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Speaker 1: I'd have to move Rivers down at least and then

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Speaker 1: have a battle between Fouts and Moon. And I just

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Speaker 1: I loved watching Warren Moon throw football. I'd loved it.

712
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Speaker 1: And you know who I put a wildcard here. Here's

713
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: if an absolute and total wildcard that if I had

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Speaker 1: to go win a Super Bowl game, Randall cutting him.

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Speaker 1: I know it sounds odd, but you know me, I

716
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: like my quarterbacks to be a little bit moll have

717
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 1: a mobility aspect to put defenses on blast. So Randall

718
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Speaker 1: cutting him in a one game, winner take all sort

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Speaker 1: of thing. Oh man. And by the way, if I

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Speaker 1: could have gotten Michael Vick in a winner take all,

721
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Speaker 1: one game situation, I might. I might have to go

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00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: with Vic a little, I would say at the be

723
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Speaker 1: playing style beginning of his career, but mentally at the

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Speaker 1: end of his career, because by the end of his

725
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: career he finally started taking it serious. He started you

726
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: you're living by the playbook all that kind of stuff.

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00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: You'd have taken that mentally with him physically he would

728
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: have been unstoppable. He would have been unstoppable. So I'll

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Speaker 1: throw those two in there as well. But at the top,

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Speaker 1: Scott to be Marino bigger Astro's villain. Yankees or Braves Yankees,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Braves. It's so those were I gave

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Speaker 1: a strong case with the postseason history. They could never

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Speaker 1: get through the Braves, and then they finally did, Chris Burke,

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Speaker 1: they finally did, and then you know, they joined the

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Speaker 1: American League, and then you end up losing to the

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Speaker 1: Braves in a World Series. Thanks a lot, I get it.

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00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,280
Speaker 1: But it's the Yankees, I know, you know that means something.

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Speaker 1: It's the yanketing them. Yeah, that's true. Okay, Next up

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football, Johnny. The format's gonna be a little

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Speaker 1: bit different with this Amazon thing. I have inside info

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Speaker 1: will share next on Texans All Access. Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: continues in a moment. It's time to amp up the

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Speaker 1: whole new level. Not all models, trends or features may

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Speaker 1: be available. Contact or dealer for information. We return to

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Speaker 1: Texans all excess, Mark Vandermaron, John Harris would be great

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00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: to have you long Okay, Amazon as Thursday Night Football

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00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: this year, the Texans have a tie in because they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be the first Amazon broadcast. It's Thursday Night, the

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Speaker 1: final preseason game, Week three, and the game will be

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00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: on local TV. It'll be on TV in the market,

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00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: so it'll be their broadcast on I believe gosh, I

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00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,879
Speaker 1: believe it's Fox that haven't has it. I know it's

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00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 1: not ABC thirteen, our regular preseason TV partner, because these

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00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: things get put up for bid anyway. So you'll see

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00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: it on quote free TV, but you'll also be able

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Speaker 1: to see it on Amazon, and the nation will see

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Speaker 1: it on Amazon. That's their maiden voyage, Johnny. They have

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Speaker 1: Al Michael's, Kirk Herb Street, the whole crew. They have

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Speaker 1: a bazillion cameras in the build, a ton of angles.

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00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: They're really going to try to be innovative. The other

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00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: thing they're doing is shortening or lessening the amount of

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Speaker 1: commercial breaks. And the reason I know this is because

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Speaker 1: we play San Francisco and they came to the radio

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Speaker 1: guys that people run the radio operation, and they said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: we are going to take fewer commercial breaks. Is that okay?

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna make it work. We figured it out

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00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: so we can make that work. And it's not a

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Speaker 1: ton fewer, but you're you might notice it. And they're

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Speaker 1: gonna try some other things as well to have the

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Speaker 1: games speed up a little bit and maybe lessen the

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Speaker 1: amount of recorded commercials you're seeing. I don't know how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it. I think Amazon they'd be crazy

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00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: not to try everything innovative they possibly can. It's the

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00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: kind of thing I'm not going to call a loss

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Speaker 1: leader for them. I think they can make all the

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00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: money back and then some. But they're gonna use it

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00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: to attract new and exciting people to their app Right,

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00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: So pretty cool. I just thought i'd share some of

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Speaker 1: that information with people. Yeah, I mean, I think it's cool.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, Mark about doing something you know different,

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Speaker 1: I'm all about that. I mean, we watched games now

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Speaker 1: and if you just turned a game on you're like, okay,

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Speaker 1: what's the situation. You can look up and you see

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Speaker 1: a score bug right, and you're like, oh, Texans are

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00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: up seventeen three on the LA Chargers. They're seven minutes

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00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: left to go in a third quarter, you three time

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00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: out to eat. You see all the information right? Well,

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00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: that I'll started with Fox. When Fox got into football

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00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: in ninety four and they got the NFC. That was

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Speaker 1: one of the first innovations they had was that little

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Speaker 1: score bug they put up there. And at first you're

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00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: like okay, and then you're like, wait a second, we

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Speaker 1: have never had this. This is awesome. It gives you

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Speaker 1: everything you need to know right about the game. And

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Speaker 1: that was I mean, I would say it was a

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00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: throw in, but it was one of the things that

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00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: Fox came up with that they did new. They had

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Speaker 1: they had different eyes on the game and they came

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Speaker 1: up with something new. So I'm I'm all for it.

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Speaker 1: If Amazon wants to try something out and give it

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Speaker 1: a shot, Hey man, let's rock on, let's do it.

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00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: I got let's try it. Can't can't can't hurt to

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00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: try and improve the game in some way, shape or form.

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00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: And look, there might be some things like the glowing

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00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: puck that doesn't work, But maybe they're done. Maybe there

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Speaker 1: is something like the scorebug that ends up sticking because

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00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: the Amazon is putting its eyes on football really for

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Speaker 1: the first time. You cannot imagine watching a game now

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Speaker 1: without a scorebug. We'll probably get into this more tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: but you texted this one to me about the Patriots

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Speaker 1: announcing their full coaching staff. Joe Judge is the offensive

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Speaker 1: assistant slash quarterbacks coach. Yes, so not coordinator. Matt Patricia

818
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: is senior football advisor slash offensive line. Okay, boys and girls,

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Speaker 1: what harm is there in naming a coordinator? Maybe there's

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Speaker 1: really legit no coordinator in Belichick's going to do it, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: I be feeling that he's gonna have a ton of

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Speaker 1: input and might be in fact the play caller on offense.

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Speaker 1: And if I were them, I might do that because

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Speaker 1: who's better than him? Really? And if you were right,

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Speaker 1: if you're a Robert Craft that it was up to you,

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Speaker 1: you'd say, Bill, you do it. Like based on what

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Speaker 1: you have on staff here, you'd say, Billy, you do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And Belichick's done it before. I read an article I

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Speaker 1: can't remember where it was, but it was it was

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Speaker 1: a It was a newspaper shot from ninety one, the

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Speaker 1: first four or five games I think with the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns where he took over his head coach. He was

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Speaker 1: calling offensive place back in ninety one. That was his

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Speaker 1: first head coaching job, and he had he had a staff,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he had sabing. His personnel staff included oh

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Speaker 1: yead Kirk Ferent's on that staff. There were tons of

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Speaker 1: really good coaches on that staff. And yet he was

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Speaker 1: the one calling calling the plays as Poli and as

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Speaker 1: Pioli was in his personnel staff. So he called the

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00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: place he's done it before. It's just odd. But he

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Speaker 1: goes back to their pointing about Amazon. Look, if you're

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00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it differently, you better do it better than

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Speaker 1: everybody else. And so if he's gonna do it that way,

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Speaker 1: the pressures on to do it differently than everybody else

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Speaker 1: does it. And we'll see the Patriots are wired that

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Speaker 1: way this year. All right, my friend, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for the show. Looking forward to tomorrow's program and

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Speaker 1: a week from tomorrow morning being at Texans Training Capital

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