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We'll talk about that as 41 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: we go through. But well, I want to start with 42 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: football because that's what pays the bills. So we'll save 43 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: some of that stuff for the b block. But we 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: begin this hour on the shores of the mighty Hudson River, 45 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: and we have another quarterback change in the NFL. And 46 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: this one not because of injury, by systemic incompetence. And 47 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 1: if you have not heard by now, maybe not. It 48 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: was anticipated and it is now happen. We have learned. 49 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: The Giants have demoted, they have benched mister unlimited Russell Wilson, 50 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: who is now limited to holding a clipboard in favor 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: of the flavor of the week, and that would be 52 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: first round quarterback rookie Jackson Dart. They've gone to the dart. 53 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: They're now throwing darts the Giants. And that just comes 54 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: after three games. Now, remember all that rhetoric, all that 55 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: bull crap. Oh, he's gonna sit out half the year, 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: at least maybe the entire year. The Giants are gonna 57 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,839 Speaker 1: do this the right way. Okay, what a bet on that? No, 58 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: And we'll get into it. But Dart's first start will 59 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: come at home on Sunday against Eddie Garcia's Chargers there, 60 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: super fan Eddie Garcia's Chargers and his wife big super 61 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: fans there. Also Jim Harbaugh he coaches the team, and 62 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert there. So that'll be the matchup be three 63 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: and zero Chargers at MetLife Stadium in Jersey. The Giants 64 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: trying to wake up the Echoes as they will take 65 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: on the Charges with a new quarterback. So let us 66 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: discuss the question for the esteem panel. Russell Wilson demoted 67 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart is now QB one for the Giants. Your 68 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 1: thoughts on these developments regarding the Giants. So I've got Mason, Jars, 69 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: Kobe and human shields and we will combine all of 70 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 1: these things together and we're going to make some fried rice, 71 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 1: which is highly underrated fried rice, well pretty much anything 72 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 1: fried is usually not good for you, but taste marvelous. 73 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: All right, So a this was the word I will 74 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: use for the Giants quarterback change telegraphed. Telegraphed is the 75 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: word I will use. Everybody with half a brain saw 76 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: this one coming. Russell Wilson had been running on fumes. 77 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 1: What about the game against the Cowboys. Okay, that says 78 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: more about the Cowboys they suck. Okay, uh Russell Wilson 79 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: if you watched them, But this is a year's long thing. 80 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: Like how he ended up getting that gig with the 81 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: Giants is beyond me. He's been telling everyone I suck, 82 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: and yet they said, no, you don't. You don't suck enough. 83 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: You have to play for us because we want to 84 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 1: make sure you suck. And so there you go. So 85 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson who's been running on low fuel. He's been 86 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: slogging away for years with multiple teams, no rhythm, no 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,720 Speaker 1: tempo to his game at all. And Russell Wilson, who 88 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: has less juice than a dollar store high Sea pack 89 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's not allow juice in those little packets 90 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: they have at the dollar store. He's a football zombie 91 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: at this particular point, but he's been a zombie. It's 92 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: not a surprise. The real surprise is who they're throwing 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart against. Not exactly a soft open. I've had 94 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: friends of mine that have been involved in restaurants and 95 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: they always say, well, you gotta have the soft launch 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 1: friends and family, Friends and family, you have a date 97 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: you're going to launch the restaurants. We have a night 98 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 1: or two where it's his friends and family. So everything 99 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: gets lined up there and that's it all. The restaurant 100 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: staff knows what they're doing. Everything's lined up, and no, 101 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: not exactly that. The Chargers off to a legit start. 102 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: They have a top ten defense in the NFL. So 103 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 1: that's not a cupcake with extra frosting. It is a 104 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: trial by fire. It is all right, Jackson Dart. Our 105 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: franchise is stunk for ten years. So we'll throw you 106 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: in the wood chipper right away. No easing in to 107 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: the deep end you go. No easing in right now. 108 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: You're not going in the kiddi pool. You're going in 109 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 1: the deep end right now. There you go, So good 110 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: luck on that. No chance to iron out the case. No, 111 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: he did play a little bit sporadically here the first 112 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 1: couple or the last couple of weeks. So keep in mind, 113 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 1: if they had waited, if they being the team from 114 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: New Jersey that calls themselves the Giants, if they had 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: waited a week, Jackson Dart would have broken in in 116 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: a very soft launch against the gumbo guys in Saints 117 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: Saints go marching into embarrassment on a weekly basis. There 118 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: that's the feel good component. That's the Hey, we're gonna 119 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: go out there, you'll throw three touchdowns and throw for 120 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: three hundred yards and feel good about yourself. Instead, they 121 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: are saying, I go out there against Derwin James and 122 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: the Chargers, knock yourself out. Welcome to the NFL. Kid, 123 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: here you go knock yourself well again. I'm fine with it. 124 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: I've always said you go with it. There's this false 125 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: belief if you sit on the bench, you're going to 126 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: be great. There's plenty of examples of people that sat 127 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: on the bench. It also sucked. Either you've got it 128 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: or you don't have it. We'll find out whether Jackson 129 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Dart has it or not. I don't know. I didn't 130 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 1: think he was all that great in college. I thought 131 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: he was fine. I didn't think he would be anything 132 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: spectacker in the NFL. But there's other guys who were 133 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL that I didn't think would be all 134 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: that great that have turned out to be pretty good. 135 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: So it's a hit and miss situation. It's an imperfect 136 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: science and all that stuff, but it does show you 137 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: the giants dysfunction. That's my other thought on this, the 138 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: dysfunction for the Giants, because you've got Brian Dayball and 139 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: Joe Shane the coach in the GM, who are essentially 140 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: drinking moonshine from Mason Jars at Dick's last resort, because 141 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: this is it. This is your last resort if you're 142 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: the coach and the GM there hoping that nobody notices 143 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: that you're getting sucker punched, and you're likely to get 144 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: sucker punched again here. And the reality is if Jackson 145 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Dart is not prepared to hit the ground running here, 146 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: and if he goes out there and sucks at a 147 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: time you cannot suck and does a cannonball and a 148 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 1: belly whopper against the Chargers, and they have to take 149 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: him out of the game for some reason because he's 150 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: so bad, and they have to go to Russell Wilson 151 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: again or Jameis Winston. Well, let's just say the not 152 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: so dynamic duo, the brains of the Giants operation. They 153 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: should start updating their LinkedIn page right now because they've 154 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: got some issues there. And John marr the owner of 155 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: the Giants, they for some reason keep this group together. 156 00:08:58,320 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: They should have gotten rid of him at the end 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: of the last year. They kept him around, John Marra, 158 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: but if you look at it, it has been a 159 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: revolving door. They are the Cleveland Browns of New York, 160 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: that is the New York Johnson one. The Jets are 161 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: worse than the Cleveland Browns, but the Giants are like 162 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. So I they keep changing coaches and 163 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: all that stuff. Four coaches since they canned Tom Coughlan 164 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: back in the day, ten years. Four coaches. So the 165 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: patience isn't endless for the Giants. But the clock is 166 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: a ticking. Certainly, no more honeymoon. That's long gone. That 167 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: Fluke playoff situation where they weren't that good and they 168 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: made the playoffs and then took advantage of the incompetence 169 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins to beat the Vikings in a playoff game. 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: But you look at it now and there's really no 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: long term plan. It's just kind of a reactionary move 172 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 1: and you bench the veteran. And again, they should have 173 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: never signed Russell Wilson. That's the thing. You didn't need 174 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: benjam You shouldn't assigned him. If the overnight sports radio 175 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: guy knows the quarterback is washed off, why do you 176 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: not know that you're getting paid a lot more money 177 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,959 Speaker 1: than I am. You should know that, you dummies. It's 178 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: ridiculous anyway. So they're gonna throw him out there and 179 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: get all dramatic and they're throwing him Jackson Dart to 180 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: the wolves there. 181 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 3: I do. 182 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: I want to do that, but you'll buy at least 183 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. In theory, this buys you at 184 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: least a couple of weeks and maybe you'll get some 185 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: good headlines. The tabloids seem to like this in New York. 186 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Reading some of the tabloids there, it's desperate and typically 187 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: it ends with everyone getting fired because you started out 188 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: owing three rather than just start. You would have started 189 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 1: owing three anyway. If you started Jackson Dart at least 190 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: then you can say, well he played well against the 191 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys and do all that bull crap. Instead, Now you're 192 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: owing three, and then Jackson Dart's gonna take some time 193 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: to get going here, so then you're looking at maybe 194 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: one in six or something along those lines. Good luck, 195 00:10:57,040 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: good luck on that. This says dead man walking for 196 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: Brian day Ball written all over it. Now we move on, 197 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: as for mister unlimited, Mister unlimited, what was the monstrosity 198 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: performance against Kensau's city. The last time we will see 199 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson as a regular starting quarterback in the NFL 200 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: was that it didn't know it at the time, But 201 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: is that it so? In terms of Russell Wilson being 202 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: given the keys to the kingdom and a team being 203 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: as dumb the dumb, dumb dumb as the Giants and 204 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: giving him the keys, I would say, yes, that that's 205 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: not going to hap. Now. Is it possible that Russell 206 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: will start some games even this year because Jackson Dart's 207 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: either going to get hurt or is going to suck. 208 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: That is obviously a possibility. But in terms of his 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: career arc, he is Dunskies cooked. He has been microwaved, reheated, 210 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and tossed in the garbage disposal at this particular point. 211 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: Wilson is a football hobo, is what he is. And 212 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: he's hitch hiking down the dusty winnemuck a road. Shout 213 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: out Johnny Cash. He's got that knapsack, he's got that 214 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: going for him, he's got the thumb in the air 215 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and he's hoping that some desperate general manager will pick 216 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: him up at the trade deadline or again in the offseason. 217 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: But he was again washed in Denver. You could argue 218 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:28,560 Speaker 1: at the end of the run in Seattle he didn't 219 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: look all that good. But the main reason he left Seattle, 220 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: as I understand it, was he tried to usurp Pete Carroll. 221 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: There was a power play and Russ did not win 222 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: that battle, which is crazy because a couple of years 223 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: later Pete Carroll was let go anyway, so they're like, well, 224 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get rid of Pete Carroll. We're gonna 225 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: pick the coach over the quarterback. And then they got 226 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: rid of the coach anyway, so that's something different. But 227 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: he was washed in Denver, tumble dried in Pittsburgh, and 228 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: now left to rust out with the giants. Like that car, 229 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: you know, that kind of disheveled house that everyone drives 230 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 1: by and says, why is that car rusted out in 231 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:08,920 Speaker 1: front of the house. That's like, that's terrible. It's embarrassing anyway, 232 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: So there is no let's ride like Russ likes to say. 233 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: It's let's hide. It went from let's ride to let's hide. 234 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: That's the new message from Russell Wilson, and he's gone. 235 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: In Seattle, he was considered Kobe beef Kobe, and now 236 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: he is leftover meat loaf in tupperware in the back 237 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: of the refrigerator that has not been eaten and is 238 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: starting to turn colors. That's what's going on. So Russ's 239 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: only hope now is to take advantage of the supply 240 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: chain shortage of quarterbacks in the league. But again, I 241 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: just can't imagine a scenario where he's given the job. Now, 242 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: can he get the job because of injury? Sure, there's 243 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: something like that could happen, but going into a year 244 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: like this year where the Giant said you're our guy, No, 245 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: that's not happening. You can sell himself as a not 246 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: so savvy backup quarterback. Now, last word, I have to 247 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: address this because it's a long standing pet peeve of 248 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: mine and it happened. Yet again, I don't know if 249 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: you were a witness to this or not. So Russell 250 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: Wilson was essentially fired, although he's still keeping his gig, 251 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: but he's demoted. Loss of rank for Russell Wilson, so 252 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: he created some buzz on the same day that he 253 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: was benched, and he ran off to a children's hospital 254 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: in New York and flooded social media with photos of 255 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: him with the kids. So the question, all right, what 256 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: did you think of Russell Wilson's photo bombing from a 257 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: children's hospital the day that he got demoted as the 258 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Giants quarterback? So this really rubbed me the wrong way here. 259 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: It's a nice instagram stunt. We saw this in Seattle. 260 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: Russ has been doing this a long time or the 261 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: same stunt, and my position has been pretty strong on this, 262 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: have been very consistent over the years. But in this case, 263 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: you just focus on this one case in particular, you're 264 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: using the sick kids as human shields against social media trolls. 265 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: Why do you care so much about social media trolls? 266 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: What are you doing? Just stay away, you don't need 267 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: to partake. Come on now, it's rather pathetic, bad job 268 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: by you. And that's the please don't yell at me post. 269 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: You can't yell at me. Look, I'm a nice person, 270 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: is what that is. And that's the playbook. That is 271 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: the playbook right there, and it's performative charity is what 272 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: it is. And my belief and I was raised this week. 273 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: You can play my parents. They're dead guys, you can't 274 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: blame anymore. But the true charity should be anonymous that 275 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: that's the way I was raised, that you do it humbly. 276 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: You should do nice things, and you should help people out, 277 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: but you should do it humbly and do it without fanfare. 278 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: And you shouldn't need a camera crew and a lighting 279 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: guy and a sound guy. You don't blast it out 280 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: on social media like you're running a play political campaign. 281 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be doing that. And it's just I see that. 282 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's phony. You you don't need to 283 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: do that. And these are things you should hear about 284 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: when you die. Give me a great example, Kobe Bryant dead. 285 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: When Kobe died, we heard all these stories. I had 286 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: heard some of these things when he was still alive, 287 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: but when he died, we heard all these stories about 288 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: Kobe would just randomly show up to a children's hospital 289 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: and didn't have a camera crew. Kobe Bryant didn't have 290 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: a sound guy, he didn't have an audio guy, he 291 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: didn't send out posts on social media, and he just 292 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: hung out with kids. And that's the way you're supposed 293 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: to do it. Not Russ. Russ Russ ever done anything 294 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: without a camera crew to document everything. Everything is a 295 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: hallmark card for Russell Wilson. It's just all manufactured. The voice, 296 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the mannerisms, the mannerisms, all of that. It's even the 297 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: charity stuff there, So there you go. Of course, it 298 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a problem for the giants. He'd still be 299 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: QB number one. If his didn't have less zip than 300 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: a warm bud light, then he'd still be out there. 301 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: But I digress. 302 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller 303 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on 304 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 305 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: Hey, we're Covino and Rich Fox Sports Radio every day 306 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 4: five to seven pm Eastern. 307 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 308 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 4: We never have enough time to get to everything we 309 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 4: want to get to. 310 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 5: And that's why we have a brand new podcast called 311 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,399 Speaker 5: over Promised. 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Mike Tomlin had some things to say. He 365 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: was asked about Aaron Rodgers, and he was asked if 366 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has lived up to expectations. Pittsburgh off to 367 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: the two and one start, a nail biiting win over 368 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: the Jets, a blowout loss to well, not a blot loss, 369 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: but they weren't very competitive against Seattle some special teams 370 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: blunders in that game. And then win over the New 371 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: England Patriots. So two and one start, and so Mike 372 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Tomlin asked whether or not Aaron Rodgers had lived up 373 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: to expectations his first season there in western Pennsylvania. So far, 374 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: tomlind do you think? He said? Ay, my god, does 375 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers stink? B no comment or C yes, all right. 376 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: So the answer to this, it's a version of see 377 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: obviously Tomlin said quote he meaning Aaron Rodgers, He meaning 378 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers certainly has been what we expected and not 379 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: only in terms of his play, but Tomlin went on 380 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: to say in terms of his relationship with the game 381 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: and how he interacts with his teammates. Tomlin opined, quote continued, 382 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: Tomlin said, how he loves the preparation process. All of 383 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: those things have been double thumbs up. Let me repeat that, 384 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: double thumbs up, and so it's reasonable to expect the 385 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: in stadium performance to mirror that. Tomlin said, close quote. 386 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: So that's the money quote. That's a good jumping off point. 387 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 1: So let's discuss the question do you agree or disagree? 388 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: Agree or disagree with Mike Tomlin giving Aaron Rodgers the 389 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: double thumbs up on that. So my observations on this, 390 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: I've got Bill Nye, the science guy, stick figures and 391 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: foot long ballpark wiener, and we will combine all of 392 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: these things together, and we are going to put the 393 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: biscuit in the basket, is what we're going to do. 394 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: So number. 395 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 6: I said, number yes, Yes, say this is the kind 396 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 6: of thing, the kind of thing you say about a 397 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 6: summer blockbuster, right or they come out with a new 398 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 6: flavor of potato chips and you say, well, that's. 399 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,560 Speaker 1: A double thumbs up. Of course, you also know what 400 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:41,400 Speaker 1: this is. This is spin spins, spin spins, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, spin, 401 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: spin spin spin spin spin spin spin spin. That's what 402 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas doing. Obviously, we know that he's selling Aaron 403 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: Rodgers love of the game leadership like that that matters. 404 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: It's also a backhanded shot at Justin Fields and Russell Wilson. 405 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: Right last year, they clearly did not love the game. 406 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: They didn't give you that leadership. So does anyone care 407 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: whether or not Aaron Rodgers is breaking down film? Is 408 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: there anyone? I'm sure there's probably some hard o lot 409 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: do I care. I'm into that kind of thing. Okay, 410 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: good for you, good for you. Okay, the vast majority 411 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,120 Speaker 1: of the rank and file to not really care whether 412 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: or not he's breaking down film with his teammates, Aaron Rodgers. 413 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: If on Sundays he looks like he's stuck in gridlocked traffic, Okay, 414 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 1: you don't really care. And now imagine, if you will, 415 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: had Mike Tomlin come out to the dais and said, listen, 416 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: we've had Aaron Rodgers. We thought he was good. The 417 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:42,239 Speaker 1: guy's cooked. We wish he wasn't cooked. He's cooked, and 418 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: we really just wanted Aaron Rodgers in Pittsburgh because we 419 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: thought he could get us the top magic mushrooms around 420 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: and some great ayahuasca, and nobody else in the NFL 421 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: can match the ayahuasca we have in Pittsburgh. So that's 422 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: really why we wanted Aaron Rodgers. Now, that would be 423 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: the mother of all quotes by Mike Tomlin, that that 424 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: would be groundbreaking. He didn't say that. Rogers. Here's the 425 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: way I look at it. It's gone the way I 426 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: imagined as a distant relative of Nostra Damas and friend 427 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 1: of Nostra Dnacy. Lives in Seattle with his wife who's 428 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: a vegan. So it's problem anyway. So Rogers has been 429 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: not an upgrade. He has not been a downgrade for 430 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers is a lateral move. It 431 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: is a lateral move here, it's a flat line. Rogers, 432 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: what is my evidence? Well, I've got the eyeball test, 433 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 1: but if you're blind, just go out the numbers as 434 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: well or the audio test from listening to the games 435 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: on the radio. So Aaron Rodgers is the fourteenth rank 436 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: quarterback in football. He is a guy that's in a sandwich. 437 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: It's a turd sandwich because on one side you have 438 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,640 Speaker 1: Mac Jones of the forty nine ers. On the other 439 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: side you have Tyrod Taylor, a couple of backup quarterbacks. 440 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: Rogers is stuck between them. You're not waning playoff games 441 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: with that type of book. But he loves the preparation, 442 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, it's great. You know who else loves preparation, 443 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 1: Bill Nye, the Science Guy. Would you like to see 444 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: Bill Nye, the Science Guy, under center against the Ravens 445 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: on a third down and twelve in the fourth quarter 446 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: in bad weather? I wouldn't. Maybe you would. That should 447 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: be actually be good for the show, So I guess 448 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: I would like to see that. But here's the thing. 449 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: Rogers isn't making anyone better right now. That's the issue. 450 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: In his younger days, back in the day, Aaron Rodgers 451 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: was able to elevate his teammates, which is what the 452 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: great quarterbacks are able to do. That's why Rogers end 453 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: up in the Hall of Fame and all that. But 454 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: you've got one bazuka, one bazouka, and that's dk Metcalf. 455 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: That's it, period, stop, that's all you got everything else 456 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: on that roster. You look at the playmakers on the 457 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers, and it's like a neighborhood garage sale. You 458 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: got a lot of cast offs, old lamps. Over to 459 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: the right. If you look over the left, there's some 460 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: busted TVs, but they're tube TVs. They're not flat screen TVs, 461 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,679 Speaker 1: they're tube TVs. And then you've got half used like 462 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: yoga mats that have mustard stains on them. I hope 463 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: those mustard stains. I don't know. Maybe there's something else 464 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: that you got all that, and that is what Rogers 465 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: is working with at this particular point. And so this 466 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: has gone as we anticipated, as we imagined it would go. 467 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: It looks pretty similar to last year. Looks pretty similar 468 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: to last year in Pittsburgh. It's not better, it's not worse. 469 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: It's the same. And the numbers back that up. The 470 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: Steelers are twenty sixth in past year, or they weren't 471 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 1: twenty sixth last year. So they were twenty six last 472 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: year when they had justin Fields and Russell Wilson. What 473 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: are they this year? Do you think they're like? What 474 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: do you think twenty if eighteenth in the NFL in passing? Now, 475 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: how about twenty fourth? So they went from twenty six 476 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: last year with Justin Fields, who stinks, and Russell Wilson 477 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: who's done, and they brought in another washed up quarterback, 478 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. And so they've improved a couple of slots. 479 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: And so that that's your double thumbs up we from 480 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: Mike tom So, that's that's he's a standard apparently, right, 481 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: that's the famous quote from Mike Tomlin. That's the standard. 482 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: The standard is the standard. So apparently that's the standard. 483 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Standard is mediocrity. That's it all. 484 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: Right. 485 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:14,400 Speaker 1: Now to TV Land we go where a quarterback who 486 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: has been a terrible broadcaster trying to make a name 487 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: for himself. Now Drew Brees, the former New Orleans Saints quarterback, 488 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: Drew Brees, who had a gig at NBC and was 489 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,959 Speaker 1: so bad they kicked him off NBC. I know what 490 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: that feels like. So Drew Brees called the Eagles, he 491 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: called the Eagles offense boring. He said it's boring, and 492 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: he left Jalen Hurts off of his list. Not my list, 493 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: Terry in England, that's his list, his list of top quarterbacks. 494 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: Early in the NFL season, Drew Brees did not have 495 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts in there, which, by the ways, we'll get 496 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: to this at a sec. But it's not that big 497 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: a deal. So the question question for you, does Drew 498 00:27:53,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Brees calling the Saints offense barring make sense to you? 499 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: And I'm nodding my head. Yes, I'm nodding my head. Yes, 500 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 1: right now. He's not wrong. He's not wrong. The Eagles 501 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: offense is efficient. It's not sexy, it's efficient the Eagles. 502 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: If you look at the raw numbers, Philadelphia is sitting 503 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: twenty ninth in passing yards. Now, I know Ryan Clark's 504 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: not gonna like this because I didn't play in the NFL. 505 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that's good. I don't think that's. Oh, 506 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: you shouldn't say that. You shouldn't say that. Why'd you 507 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: say that? I don't think it's that good at bottom five. 508 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: So that's you know what that is? Sludge? Sludge, that's 509 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: oatmeal without brown sugar. Nobody wants it. Nobody wants it. 510 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: It's just terrible. What are you doing? And so they're 511 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: winning in the math class. See the math class, they're winning, 512 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: not the art class. They're not doing well in art. 513 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: They're doing well in math. When you peak at the 514 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: the numbers here, they're eighth in NFL, eighth in the 515 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: NFL points, they're number one in red zone, they're eighth 516 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: and third down. So those are all positive numbers. But again, 517 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: the art is not there. It's not very artistic, and 518 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: it's it's like the kid who gets an A plus 519 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: in algebra but then ends up drawing stick figures in 520 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: art class. You're like, well, what did you draw that? Well, 521 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: that's my art. Well, no, that's not art. That's a 522 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: stick figure. Well that's what I do. But you're good 523 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: at math. Why are you not good at art? Well, 524 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: it's I'm good at math because I like numbers. I'm 525 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: not good at art because I don't do art. But 526 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: I know, but you gotta try. That's a stick figure. 527 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: That's not very good. It doesn't matter. That's my art. 528 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: And you go back and forth like that, and the 529 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: other thing is, you know it's missing here. The old 530 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan show fear factor, not a lot of fear fact. 531 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts is not keeping defensive quarters up and night. Well, 532 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: who could you say that? The Eagles came back at 533 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 1: Jaalen Hurts living them back. Now, the Eagles won that 534 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: game because of special teams, not because of Jalen Hurts. 535 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 1: They won that game that was in the bag for 536 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams gave the game away because of 537 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,760 Speaker 1: special teams blunders, not because of Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts 538 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: had a great second half. I'll give you that. I'll 539 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: give you the game. He's the Rams. Jalen Hurts played well. 540 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Let say I play better than I thought the second half, 541 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: had seventeen yards passing at halftime. I believe great in 542 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the second half. But they still win the game because 543 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 1: the special teams, not because they would have lost the 544 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: game even with all those passing touchdowns in all those yards. 545 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: The Rams were in position to win the game if 546 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: it hadn't been for their idiot kick out. I digress. 547 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: So the point is the same. Nobody's getting all worked 548 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: up about ah Man, we gotta face Jalen Hurts. Were cooked. 549 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: Nobody's tossing and turning and can't sleep and turn on 550 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: overnight talk radio and say, oh no, oh my god, 551 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: how do we stop Jalen Hurts. Things that go bumpity 552 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: bump in the night. And then you're like, well, maybe 553 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: that guy Hazel will call up and say I know 554 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: things that go bumpity bump Hayes in Minnesota. I don't know. 555 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: So you're more worried about when you're in Philadelphia're like, 556 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm more concerned about do I order the cheese steak 557 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: the right way with provolone or do I order it 558 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: the wrong way with cheese whizz right. You're more concerned 559 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: about that rather than Jalen Hurts beating. So Drew Brees 560 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: the buzz of Drew Brees, if you will, And he 561 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: got a fair amount of buzz on this. Whether it's 562 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: real or not, I don't know. The main reason this 563 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: became a thing with Drew Brees is because a he's 564 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: milk toast. He's very uninteresting, he's boring. And then b 565 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: he went against the ex jock decorum. There's a patriarch 566 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: among X shocks that when they get media jobs, you're 567 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: supposed to go on TV and radio and do podcasts 568 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: and just pat the young kids on the back, right 569 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: way to go, pat him on the head, good job 570 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: by you, whoever they are, and tell everyone how amazing 571 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: and how great every player is and all that stuff. 572 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: Celebrate the game. And instead he actually told the truth. 573 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: And that was shocking because he said it and doesn't 574 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: normally talk like that. And they want their quarterback in 575 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: the presidential suite there in Philadelphia, and he's not. That's 576 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: not where he belongs. And so of course the some 577 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: of the bird brain fans all upset. Now, final point, 578 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: we go to a story that could be could be related. 579 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: That's a weasel term, could be related to the Philadelphia Eagles. 580 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: But it's in Houston, deep in the heart of Texas 581 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: and Houston, and that is the situation where the Texans 582 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: have fired a defensive player we know of. So question, 583 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: why did the Houston Texans release aka fire fire safety CJ. 584 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson. Yes, that's CJ. Gardner Johnson, the big mouth 585 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: after an zero and three start. What's going on there? 586 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: So Gardner Johnson, CJ. Gardner Johnson. There about a minute, 587 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: about a minute and gone, the next one, they're one 588 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: minute gone, the next that's it, poof and that's all. 589 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: See you later. Turn out the loft, the parties over. 590 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna cut your ass. So that is not a 591 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: roster move. It's a statement. You know, it's a state. Yes, 592 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 1: you're shaking your head, Yes you're not in your head. Yes, 593 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: it is a statement. It is absolutely statement. Demko Ryans, 594 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: the coach who's not looking so good right now. Dimiko 595 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: Ryans send a message to the room. You guys are 596 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: all a bunch of underachievers and heads are going to 597 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: row if you do not perform up to our standards. 598 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: And so CJ. Gardner Johnson, I know exactly the comp 599 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: on him. He is the NFL's version of Patrick Beverly. 600 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: That is what CJ. Gardner Johnson is. You hate him 601 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: until he's on your team, and then most people, even 602 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: when he's on your team, you kind of tolerate him. Nah. 603 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: I like Patrick Beverly, but most people don't like his approach. 604 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: I love the fact that he celebrated a play in 605 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: tournament win for the Minnesota Timberwolves more than any championship. 606 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: Someday of Minnesota, the Timberwls will win an NBA championship 607 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: and they will not celebrate as passionately as Patrick Beverly 608 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: did winning a playing game, which is just tremendous. So anyway, CJ. 609 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson, get to the point. Please, So this guy 610 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: is like a foot long ballpark wiener. He's a front runner. 611 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: He's a guy that will chirp and when you're ahead, right, 612 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: great front runner, right, and it's like a show pony 613 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: and he's chest puffing and strutting around and all that 614 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: stuff when things are going well. When you start zero 615 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and three, though, you start doing inventory, and the mustard's 616 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: off the foot long ballpark Wiener, the mustard's off the 617 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: hot dog. He's you know, he's got the posing and 618 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: the preening. But it doesn't really look that good when 619 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: you're losing the games. And so it's a good pace car. CJ. 620 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson is a good pace car. However, when you 621 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: are stuck, when you are stuck in the ditch on 622 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: the side of the road, he is not helping push 623 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: your car out of the ditch. He's not. Instead, the 624 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: team's lost three three games to the beginning of the 625 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,720 Speaker 1: year here Tennis, Tennessee the Texans, and so he's yelling, 626 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: remember that famous scene on the Monday night game, yelling 627 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,919 Speaker 1: at Baker Mayfield. And then there was the play, which 628 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: is was really the main reason why he was like, oh, 629 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: the game in Jacksonville last week. There's about I think 630 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: two minutes or so to go in the game, Trevor 631 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 1: Lawrence throws a bomb to Brian Thomas Junior and Gardner 632 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Johnson blew the coverage and that set things up for 633 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: Jacksonville in that game. And that was Hammer meeting Nail 634 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,919 Speaker 1: in the Texans coffin. Now see there, Gardner Johnson will 635 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: likely end up on his feet. There's a shortage of 636 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: defensive players like him, and so I can see him 637 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: going back to Philadelphia. But the Texans looked at the 638 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 1: film and they're like, well, this guy's gotta go, bye bye, 639 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: you gotta go. And it was the coaches who were like, 640 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: this guy's These guys get a little too comfortable, Demiko Ryans, 641 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: and so we got to shake it up there. And 642 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: it's like the coach is saying, Demiko Ryans is like, 643 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,280 Speaker 1: I will cut a veteran with a name, a name 644 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 1: that people know of, and I will do it. No 645 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: one is safe. You're not safe. You're not safe. You're 646 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: not safe. Get in or get out. That's it. And 647 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:03,640 Speaker 1: so it's supposed to be a wake up called will 648 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: it work, Well, we'll see what kind of tomato cans 649 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: the Texans have upcoming. But if you're you're honest, anywhere CJ. 650 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: Gardner Johnson goes, there's an expiration date. Pass some pass 651 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 1: him around. He's a glue guy. He is a glue guy. However, 652 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: when you're winning, he's a glue guy. When you're not winning, 653 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: he's He's like Elmer glue that doesn't really stick. And 654 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: you know it's not a good glue. It's not the 655 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: gorilla glue. It's like the Elmers. You know what I'm 656 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: talking about. Yet. 657 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller 658 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 659 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: Here we go, Here we go, Here we go, Here 660 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: we go, Here we go. To the third day, here 661 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: we go, here we go. We got real cool? I 662 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 1: forget another game winning drive. This past weekend. 663 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 3: Many are saying that Baker Mayfield has played his way 664 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 3: into the MVP conversation. Ben, I know it's a bit early. Yes, 665 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 3: do you think Mayfield can put together an MVP season? 666 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: No? I do not wrong market, wrong team. He will 667 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: not be the MVP. No, one's really head and shoulders 668 00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,320 Speaker 1: above everyone else at this point. It's still the feeling 669 00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: out process. Cool, but I'm gonna say Noan Baker Mayfield 670 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 1: good but not MVP good. 671 00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 3: Next Mike Gundhy and Oklahoma State football have only won 672 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 3: one game over the past twelve games dating back to 673 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 3: last season, and it has people wondering if Gundy has 674 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 3: lost his touch. Gundhi told the media on Monday that 675 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 3: he does not plan on leaving Oklahoma State anytime soon. 676 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 3: But do you think they would ever get rid of him? 677 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,920 Speaker 1: Well, listen, he's a fifteen million dollar check and all that. 678 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: Mike Gandhy, I'm a man, I'm forty, come after me. 679 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: You know that whole thing. It just feels like it's 680 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: gotten stale there, it's gotten stale, and he's you know, 681 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: that's why they're they're getting rid of That's why they 682 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 1: fired him. So he's gone, see you later. Got a 683 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: big check. Next. 684 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 3: I was reported on Monday that Rockets point guard friend 685 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 3: Fred van Vliet toward his acl and could miss the 686 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 3: entire season. 687 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 1: How big of a blow is this for the Rockets? Well, 688 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: the problem what I read is they can't replace him 689 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 1: with anyone worth any money because of the Fuges salary capital. 690 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: So I guess they're gonna have to get somebody a 691 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,560 Speaker 1: job endorsing a fake company so they can keep somebody 692 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: on the roster there. But that's about He's a good player. 693 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: He's not great player. He's a good player. It's a blow. 694 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 1: They'll be all right though. They've still got some good players. 695 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: Read you pass, Mike Gundy. You're fired, Mike Gundy, Get up. 696 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 697 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 698 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 699 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,120 Speaker 2: listen live. 700 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 7: It's a it buzz, good little rain at ten nine 701 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 7: clean up, hearts going to help you. Gear Rye, gear 702 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 7: Rye to nine, gear right and nine. 703 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: Dear Rye. That's right. 704 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 8: You heard the man. It's time for love here on 705 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 8: the Ben Malae Show. And you know, I usually have 706 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 8: a little snippet of advice at the beginning of my segments. 707 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 8: And I just want to say, who was our caller 708 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 8: earlier this week who said that he's out with a 709 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,479 Speaker 8: cougar who was like seventy three. 710 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: Oh, that was mouthwa washing. That was mouthwashed, Mike. Yeah. 711 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 8: And I just I just want to promote love of 712 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 8: all ages as long as I think they're legal. 713 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: You can date. We don't discriminate. It might be something 714 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,359 Speaker 1: other than love. 715 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 8: I don't know, but yes, there is no restrictions on age. 716 00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 8: As long as you have a good connection, go and 717 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:26,760 Speaker 8: enjoy someone's time. 718 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: All right? Well, ferg Dog writes in and says, will 719 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: you be watching the new season of The Golden Bachelor 720 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: starring NFL legend Mel Owens. I have no idea who 721 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: that is? 722 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, I thought about watching that, but I'm 723 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 8: going to be honest with you. I heard the first 724 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 8: season was horribly depressing, and I'm used to them being 725 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 8: more fun like, hearted and a little slutty, so it 726 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,959 Speaker 8: was I don't know if. 727 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: It was appointing. You want more sluttiness? Okay, I got you, Yeah, 728 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: I understand. Mike the Leprechaun says, should you trust a 729 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: girlfriend to drive through a city, especially if she has 730 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: no sense of direct action? Someone I heard about knew 731 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: nothing about Lake Michigan in Chicago. 732 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 8: He says that, oh yeah, you know, having your girl 733 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 8: drive around a city she's never been to is probably 734 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 8: not the best idea car rentals, but I've seen some 735 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 8: men do a pretty bad job around new cities as well, 736 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,880 Speaker 8: So maybe check yourself before you wreck yourself. 737 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 7: Huh? 738 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: All right? Shane and the Moyne right since says, what 739 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,640 Speaker 1: is the best way to break up with someone who 740 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: ruined your life and has no one in the state 741 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: of Iowa. But you, Oh, no, I'm not I'm not 742 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: trying to do this. I'm just saying that things. 743 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 8: Going my key into the side of there's what you 744 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 8: look at me like that. I'm just they really did 745 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 8: something bad to you. Get them back. 746 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't know. I'm not going there. JT. The 747 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: wingman says, I am trying to step to the front 748 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: of the line for my lady. What's a style of 749 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,880 Speaker 1: shoe should I get to make this happen? And then 750 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 1: he's got all the men's shoes here. The he's stepping 751 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: to the front of the what. No, he wants you 752 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: to choose which shoes women like? Like loafers or Oxford 753 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: style shoes, Derby shoes, slip on sandals. You know, I 754 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: think boat shoes. You know I don't. 755 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 8: I'm not a big fan of boat shoes. Okay, boat 756 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 8: shoes are a little lame to me. Slides can be 757 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,960 Speaker 8: good on occasion, but you know more, just like a 758 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 8: nice clean pair of shoes. I don't really think it 759 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 8: matters what kind as long as your shoes are clean. 760 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 8: If you have scuffs and dirt marks and holes in 761 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 8: your shoes. It's not looking good for you. 762 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Andy and Lino Lakes, Minnesota. SISI, Lorena? 763 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,280 Speaker 1: Am I being selfish? My girlfriend has been hinting about 764 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: marriage with life expectancy of men being aged seventy five 765 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 1: and me being sixty one. Why the hell would I 766 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: want to spend the last fourteen years of my life 767 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: in fear and anguish? 768 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 2: Well? 769 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 8: I do want to also remind you those last fourteen 770 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 8: years of your life, you could go downhill in your health. 771 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 8: So having someone there who could take care of you is. 772 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 1: Actually not that there's no ninety there's no guarantee that 773 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: they will stay with you. That is true as well. 774 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 8: But you know, love, love should be able to break 775 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 8: those boundaries no matter how old you are. 776 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: Key Drinking Steve is on the phone. Hello, Kay drinking Steve. 777 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 7: Oh, good morning America. 778 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: I got a great question for Spin it Up. Well, Uh, 779 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is all right, BP says, are the queens 780 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: of diamonds, clubs and spades jealous of Lorena? Do you 781 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: think that? 782 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 2: Yeah? 783 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 8: The queen of hearts is a little you know, it's 784 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 8: a lot some. 785 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:34,959 Speaker 1: Times not that easy right. People don't realize what goes 786 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: into this segment. They think you just show up here 787 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: and just a. 788 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 8: Research love all day, all week and every week. I'm 789 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 8: like the bachelorette out on these streets in research in Chicago. 790 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: You were studying love while you were in Chicago. The 791 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: whole time, the whole weekend was a love of. 792 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 4: Kidding. 793 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:51,680 Speaker 1: All right. 794 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,479 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Meller 795 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 2: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. Attention, 796 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: everyone is password, you idiot, password the word Game of 797 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: the Stars. 798 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 1: It's going to be a very quick game. Heavy Metal 799 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,799 Speaker 1: Kevin's gonna play. You'll match up with Coop and Mark. 800 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,479 Speaker 1: Who do you want to partner up with? Mark? 801 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,279 Speaker 2: Go with you? 802 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 1: And I want to be known as the original then 803 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: the original Mark from the North end. All right, let's 804 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:28,560 Speaker 1: go quickly. Pick a number there, heavy metal Kevin. Hold on, 805 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 1: I mean make sure I punched the right lineup? Heavy 806 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 1: metal Kevin. Pick a number, Kevin, No one to ten six? 807 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,399 Speaker 1: All right, go ahead, you haven't called go ahead, Kevin. 808 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:50,400 Speaker 1: Let's go with barter Barker, Barter, No, No, Mark, how 809 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,120 Speaker 1: about deal deal? 810 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:54,439 Speaker 8: Yeah? 811 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: There you go. All right, we got that one and 812 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: go ahead. Mark, pick a number one to ten but 813 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 1: not six. Number one, number one? All right, how about workout, workout? Yeah, 814 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: we gotta come out. It's all of it too. Mark, 815 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: you the mass, that's the original Mark from the North End. Sorry, 816 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 1: heavy heavy, heavy metal cap. You haven't called it months 817 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: and all we needed was two words. We won the game. 818 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: That's a loss. You lost password the high red version 819 00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 1: of password.