WEBVTT - ICE is Cold: Know Your Rights | Angela Rye SoloPod 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.400 Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:08.400 Reisent Choice Media. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, 0:00:09.520 --> 0:00:13.880 Hello everyone, Welcome to Native Lamb Pod. It has been 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:17.000 a whirlwind of a news cycle. As we all know. 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.080 This is a solo pod. I'm Angela Rye, your host, 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.759 and I just want to talk about something. So I 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.479 have this beating on in part because you know, the 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.360 Seahawks are the division champs. We go to see what 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.199 happens at the playoffs this weekend, So shout out to 0:00:33.320 --> 0:00:36.000 the dirty Birds. But I also my dirty Birds. I 0:00:36.000 --> 0:00:39.360 got another Dirty Bird fan coming on a second. I 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.680 also want to talk about another thing. You know, my 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:45.080 spirit feels cold right now. I've been talking all week 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.839 about why ice is so cold, and we look at 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:50.760 what they've done in Los Angeles. We saw what happened 0:00:50.800 --> 0:00:53.640 when they tried to take over the city of Los 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.160 Angeles and the broader county over the summer. Since then, 0:00:57.560 --> 0:01:04.200 they have gone to multiple cities. Memphis, They're in Minneapolis, 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:09.160 they are in City's Chicago, all across this country. In Redmond, 0:01:09.200 --> 0:01:11.880 which is not far from where I live in Seattle. 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.640 So They're all over the country and they're doing what 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:18.160 exactly right, and who is going to hold them to account? 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.040 Last week we talked about how the January sixth ers, 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:24.960 the insurrectionists, the domestic terrorists that attacked the United States 0:01:25.040 --> 0:01:27.840 capital are now the folks who are applying to be 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:30.679 ICE agents. There's articles coming out about how some of 0:01:30.680 --> 0:01:34.840 them cannot pass basic reading comprehension tests. And these are 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:38.480 our heroes, I think not so. Instead, today I want 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.440 you all to hear from someone who has become a 0:01:40.600 --> 0:01:44.440 very fast hero of mine. You know there's that clip, 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.360 that viral clip that where jan Lavan's ant slams her 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:49.880 hand on the door, says not on my watch, And 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.480 this sister said the same thing, not on my watch, 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:55.840 especially when it comes to the city of Philadelphia. Let's 0:01:55.840 --> 0:01:56.400 take a listen. 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.960 Good afternoon. I'm roach Sheeva lou the suref for the 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:02.880 City and County of Philaulphia. 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:06.000 And I say her name, Renaate. 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:14.040 Good, Reney Good, Renay Good. This should not have happened, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:19.000 but we're here today. Let know that law enforcement professionals, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:24.079 real ones, not the fake, made up ICE. Probably Trump's 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:28.400 a new army to attack citizens of the United States. 0:02:29.160 --> 0:02:33.080 Did you hear what I said? No law enforcement professional 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:41.960 wears a mask, none, none, Those that come into our 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:46.960 communities wearing a mask to commit crime. Thank god for 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:51.000 our district Attorney Larry Krasner, who say he's gonna lock 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:54.239 him up. And I'm saying now, we are not gonna 0:02:54.240 --> 0:02:58.680 whisk you away for them to hide your identity, because 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:03.480 when you do it, there you getting arrested. There no 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.360 whisk away for them to hide you. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.640 None of that here, None of that here. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:18.320 Law enforcement professionals do not shoot at moving vehicles, not 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:21.359 saying fleeing, because she wasn't fleeing, she was getting out 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.320 of the way. Law enforcement professionals do not stand in 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.119 front of moving vehicles invoking an action that is illegal. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.040 No, we don't. 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:39.040 And so we stand here today with all those who 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.600 stand against the made up fake which you can call 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:45.640 ice professional law enforcement. 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:46.600 I don't call them none of that. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:49.120 I call them made up fake want to be law 0:03:49.200 --> 0:03:54.440 enforcement because what they do is against not only legal law, 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:55.560 but tomorral law. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.520 So I'm with the DA and we will work with them. 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.040 If any of them want to come in this city 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.160 and commit a crime, you will not be able to 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:11.280 hide nobody will wish you off. You don't want to smoke, 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:18.119 because we will bring it to you and the fake 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:23.080 whatever they call them because I can't put I can't 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.920 say the name. But the criminal in the White House 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.119 would not be able to keep you from going to jail. 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:35.000 Be they good should be here today and to her family, 0:04:35.800 --> 0:04:39.560 we are saying law enforcement professionals are not the ones 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.240 here in this city that would do that. But here's 0:04:44.480 --> 0:04:49.440 the last thing that I would say. Law enforcement professionals 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.440 around the country do their job, and we had been 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:58.080 fighting for years to build that bridge between us and 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:05.480 our communities. Have one negative nutcase that causes this problem, 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:08.159 and now we all have to fight again to let 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:13.839 people know law enforcement works with communities. These crimes would 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.960 not be down if we didn't have communities work with us. 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:22.680 Thank you joining us now is Philadelphia Sheriff for Shelle 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:27.039 Blau Sheriff my hero for the week. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:29.000 How you doing? 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.919 The signal is moving you like the sloth and z Utopia, 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:36.839 So hopefully we can get this fixed pretty quickly. You 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:39.640 know what I think we ought to do, Nick, is 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:43.880 see if we can have the sheriff's team restart her signal. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.400 Thing one more time, and I'm gonna go ahead and 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:49.560 just do a quick overview of what I heard. So 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:52.400 one of the things that we heard in this video 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:56.159 that I think is so important is Sheriff Blau talked 0:05:56.200 --> 0:06:01.960 about no law enforcement profession wears a mask. And why 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.479 that is so important is because Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett just 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.240 last year, so in this same session, but last year, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.920 introduced the bill in the United States House of Representatives 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.839 called the Clear Act. The Clear Act would require law 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:22.440 enforcement professionals, as the sheriff just referenced, to show their faces, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:26.839 to show their identity, to make sure that we know 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:29.800 who they are. If you are doing something that is 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:33.320 the law is legal and you're not above the law, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:37.279 that means right that you can show your face. You 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.800 don't have to hide. If you look at some of 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.600 the footage, you all know I spent my last week's 0:06:42.600 --> 0:06:45.919 episode talking about January sixth. If you look at some 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.640 of that January sixth footage on the year anniversary is 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:53.160 the fifth anniversary of the insurrection on Capitol Hill. These 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.880 people were wearing these same kinds of masks right they 0:06:55.880 --> 0:06:59.960 were going into terrorize Capitol Hill staffers, members of Congress, 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.160 their own vice president at the time, wearing masks, not 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.839 looking any different from Ice. There's a clip that hopefully 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.040 will end up playing on the show tomorrow where we 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:15.000 show a gentleman who is an engineering degree an uber 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:19.560 driver in Minneapolis saying, show your faces. And while you're 0:07:19.560 --> 0:07:22.800 showing your faces, also, why do you have a GoPro 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.920 on your helmet? Shouldn't you just have a body cam. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.120 So there's all of that happening. I think we have 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:30.960 the shareff back, We're and give this another chance, please 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:37.280 cher Block. Can you hear me? Okay, I can hear you. Okay, now, okay, perfect. 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:38.720 We got a little bit of a delay, but it's 0:07:38.800 --> 0:07:42.000 much better. I was just saying before you drop that 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.360 you have been my hero this week. Is something to 0:07:44.400 --> 0:07:47.560 look forward to when you see a black queen telling 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.920 people what time it is, not backing down at all. 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.600 So I just wanted to say thank you on behalf 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.360 of the culture. 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:54.880 Thanks you. 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:59.000 So I want to get into some of what you 0:07:59.000 --> 0:08:02.160 said on the video. You talked about law enforcement not 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:06.880 wearing masks. Can you talk about why being visible is 0:08:06.920 --> 0:08:09.320 such an important part of the work you do every 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:10.160 single day. 0:08:10.720 --> 0:08:14.000 Being visible and thank you for having me being visible 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:17.960 and so that people would know who you are. So 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.520 if you are doing the right thing, showing who you are, 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.240 your face, having your badge on, having your ID on, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:29.280 so they can determine whether you are real or fake, 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.160 because people walking around with masks don't necessarily be doing 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:37.600 the right thing in our communities. And then at this point, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.000 if you are doing the right thing, you can show 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:44.160 who you are. If you're standing on principle, show who 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.760 you are. What's the mask for you? Like the mask 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:52.120 agent coming into people's communities, you're confusing them, you're scaring them, 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.440 and you're causing conflict. All of this was supposed to 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:59.800 be about helping. None of this is helpy. None of this. 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:05.000 See when you're talking about immigration, law enforcement professionals have 0:09:05.080 --> 0:09:08.960 worked together for decades. Immigration. When you're doing it right, 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.520 get a warrant signed by a judge and go get people. 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.840 But they don't do what we've been seeing for the 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.920 past eleven months. And the reason why I'm speaking out 0:09:20.000 --> 0:09:24.080 because the last eleven months, I'm seeing people dragged down 0:09:24.080 --> 0:09:28.040 the street by the here, pulling on doors on vehicles, 0:09:28.800 --> 0:09:32.080 shooting in vehicles that are moving. This is what you 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:35.840 don't do and law enforcement professionals don't stand in front 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:40.520 of moving cars. You are trying to get yourself injured. 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:44.679 You can injure anybody else shooting into a move and car. 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.320 That builder could have went through that window, cross the street, 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.160 hit the house and somebody in there could be injured. 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.240 Somebody walking across the street could be injured, and just 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.280 like property being damaged because that vehicle kept straight going 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.600 and ran into other vehicles. This is the reason why 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:07.280 as law enforcement professionals we do not do this wearing masks. 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.560 If you about the business, can be about it. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:13.440 You know. So on this point, and this I think 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:17.000 is so important because right now, everything that we learned 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:20.600 and like know your Rights courses or online videos, those 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:24.760 rights don't seem to be working. Right People aren't getting 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:27.520 a chance to make a phone call once detained, they 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:30.680 can't talk to their lawyer, they're not being allowed to 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.360 produce documents, They're being held in places that are unknown 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:36.840 to their families. There are all of these things that 0:10:36.880 --> 0:10:41.600 are blatant violations of our constitutional rights. And I mentioned 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:43.000 at the start of the show, this is the two 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.680 hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. Something 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.280 that's near and dearior to the city of Philadelphia. Right, 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.800 this is an opportunity for America to redefine itself as 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.680 it says it is on paper. As doctor King said, 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:58.679 be true to who you say you are on paper. 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:03.200 So can you talk just a moment, Sheriff, about why 0:11:03.640 --> 0:11:05.840 they shouldn't do some of these things you talked about 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:09.040 not shooting into a moving vehicle? What is the law 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:12.440 enforcement professional standard for that? If a car is moving, 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.840 why do you not shoot into a moving vehicle? 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:20.280 Because anything can happen when you are shooting into a 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:25.520 moving vehicle. One, you're shooting recklessly when you do that, 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:30.160 because that bullet can go through that car to. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.400 The other side. It can be a housetairs go through 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:37.360 the window and hit somebody. An innocent bystander who has 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.560 nothing to do with it, can get hurt, can get killed, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:45.000 can get injured, and the vehicle, if you hit the 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.319 person in the vehicle, it keeps going. And then if 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:52.400 anybody's crossing the street, a child, an elderly person, anyone 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.160 will be injured, severely injured, or killed. And then if 0:11:57.200 --> 0:12:00.720 the vehicle keeps going, it goes into other profits. And 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.520 now you're damaging other people's properties who had nothing to 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:08.680 do with it. That's why those reasons. And on top 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:11.920 of this, this is the biggest one. You don't stand 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:14.719 in front of a vehicle and you don't shoot in 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:17.520 one because if your partner is on the other side, 0:12:19.240 --> 0:12:22.880 who do you think you're going to injure? That's why. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:27.960 Yeah, So when you reference these types of clear standards 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.040 to you, even in the press conference and right now 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.960 you're like, this is common sense. At what point in 0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:35.800 your training do you learn this? Are you concerned that 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:38.800 ICE agents haven't even gotten this very basic training with 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.679 these very basic law enforcement protocols. 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.680 Basically because they're the ones that are out here now. 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:51.280 And I have to put the distinction Immigration Office Immigration 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:55.240 agents versus ICE because the ones that you see out 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:59.199 there now got forty seven days of training. Forty seven 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:04.360 The normal training is five to six months. And so 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.280 what are you dealing with people who are very have 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:13.120 little bit of training, just not enough to no learn 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.200 de escalation, no common sense, know what they should and 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.080 should not do. So I don't know what they're doing. 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.000 Are they just giving them a gun to say go 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:26.679 out there? That puts not only them in danger, but 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:32.760 it also puts our communities in danger. So, yes, forty 0:13:32.800 --> 0:13:37.280 seven days is not enough for a trained officer. 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:41.880 Yes, that makes sense to me. I'm curious to hear 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:45.120 your thoughts on this. We have a video from Mayor Frey, 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:49.720 who is the mayor of Minneapolis, and he's asked about 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.199 whether or not they would arrest ICE agents who were 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.040 acting unlawfully, the very thing that you said you plan 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.160 to do when they do that in Philadelphia in partnership, 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:01.800 of course, with the city attorney Larry Krasner. So let's 0:14:01.840 --> 0:14:03.400 roll this clip, and I want to hear your reaction 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:04.280 on the other side. 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.360 I think the question that you're getting to, which I'm 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.000 not I have not wholly answered yet, is like you're 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:15.319 asked basically asking can our cops arrest them? Yeah, from 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:20.080 a legal perspective, yes, From a practical perspective to state 0:14:20.280 --> 0:14:23.320 the reality, yeah, it does get kind of hard when 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:26.240 they drastically outnumber us and they have bigger guns than 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:26.520 we do. 0:14:27.760 --> 0:14:28.240 It does. 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.560 And here's the thing. We don't want to create warfare 0:14:31.560 --> 0:14:35.080 in the street. We want to keep our communities safe. 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.640 We're trying our very best to do that. So nobody 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.600 our police officers, ice agents civilians. Nobody can act illegally. 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:47.080 So I wanted to play that clip for you, Sheriff, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.360 because one thing that I felt I took a lot 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.600 of comfort in what you were saying is if you 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:55.440 act unlawfully in Philadelphia, you'll get arrested. He talks about 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.600 being outnumbered by ice in Minneapolis. Is what is the 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:02.800 state of play in Philadelphia. Is there the manpower the 0:15:02.840 --> 0:15:08.320 woman power to arrest ICE agents acting unlawfully if they 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.720 come into Philly in mass. 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:15.840 And laid that's what your disattorney, your prosecutor does. And 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:18.280 that's why I stand with the DA in this city 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.960 because he is telling everybody that if you come in 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:26.160 Philadelphia and commit a crime, he will charge you. That 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:30.040 means you will be arrested. And for our office, if 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:34.040 a judge issued a warrant for you, then we will 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:39.200 go get you. So when he says they're outnumbered, he 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.600 basically he said, yeah, they can arrest them if they 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.920 commit a crime. And so you know what, we would 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:46.880 just have to beat both the numbers in the city. 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.320 You cannot just come in here and do what you 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.600 want to do. The cities need to stand up. We 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:59.239 know that we have been working with immigration for decades 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:03.720 because they had been doing it right. But when you 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:09.320 get folks that are doing what they do today, it's 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:14.640 not acceptable and it can't be and we are not 0:16:14.720 --> 0:16:18.880 trying to make it the norm in our country. We're 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:22.240 not trying to have mass people come and act like 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:28.120 thugs gangsters because those people get arrested for what they do. 0:16:29.360 --> 0:16:32.200 So you commit a crime according to our DA, he 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.920 will charge you. That means you will get arrested and 0:16:34.960 --> 0:16:38.640 you will go to jail. That's the smoke. That's the 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:39.800 smoke I'm talking about. 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:42.440 Yeah, that's the smoke they don't want. So, Michael, my 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.440 final question for you, I know you have to go 0:16:44.920 --> 0:16:49.920 is your position then is for example, there are ICE 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.720 agents that were offended that a young man who worked 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.960 at Target, which many of us are still boycotting. He 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.360 works there, he said to ICE agent Fu. They were 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.480 offended by that. They threw him to the ground in 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.720 the entryway of the store, and they threw him into 0:17:07.840 --> 0:17:11.400 a vehicle. They've assaulted other people. You're not saying that 0:17:11.920 --> 0:17:17.360 your officers would arrest them on the spot necessarily. You're 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.920 saying that a warrant would be issued and they would 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:21.439 be arrested after the fact. 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:27.120 If our DA charges them, yeah, then a warrant will 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:31.080 be issued and they be arrested. See that right, there 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.600 is a professional We are groomed to take insults. We 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.040 don't get mad because you're cussing at us. We don't 0:17:39.080 --> 0:17:42.080 get mad because you want to say words out of him. 0:17:42.080 --> 0:17:44.760 As long as you don't put your hands on us, 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.240 we do not attack you. See, this is where training 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.159 comes in. This is where stamina comes in. This is 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.840 where you put your big boy pants on and you 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:57.200 can take a little insult. That's where training comes in. 0:17:57.640 --> 0:18:01.159 Forty seven days is not enough to be able to 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:05.440 have people standing out there doing what they do. It's 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:10.439 they hurting our communities. They are. So when you are 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.399 trained professional, you know how to take all of that. 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:18.479 You don't go beating up on children. To me, that's thuggish, 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:20.800 that's douggish. And you want to be a gangster and 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:24.760 you want to be a thug, that's not professionalism. That's 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:28.840 not law enforcement. And be people around the country that 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:32.199 are offended or about what I'm saying, I'm speaking the 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:37.159 truth the power. Ask any professor about law enforcement and 0:18:37.240 --> 0:18:41.560 the standards that they have. We've been working with communities 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:45.520 to build our relationship. Right now, they're tearing down the 0:18:45.560 --> 0:18:50.200 trust of law enforcement by these actions. People are beginning 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:54.320 not to trust law enforcement professionals. I know they don't 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.800 trust those in a mass coming out there cause they 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:58.920 don't even know who there is. You know, there's fake 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:02.320 ones going around too. Yeah, and that's when I say 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.720 the word fake ones. It's because they don't have enough 0:19:07.840 --> 0:19:14.640 training to be out there interacting with our communities, because 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:17.280 they don't do it on a daily basis. They don't 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.120 do it on a monthly basis. They what they're doing. 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.760 I just look put my hands up and say, this 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:29.200 is not right. It's wrong. It's causing problems in our communities. 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:32.320 And somebody got to say something and you got to 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:33.560 stand up against this. 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.760 Yeah, that is so good, Sheriff. We so appreciate your time. Y'all. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:41.720 This is Sheriff for Shelle Blaud. Please follow her. Make 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.480 sure that you're clear about what she's saying about how 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:48.679 we can manage and maintain through this really really difficult time. Sheriff. 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.160 I'm so grateful for the standard you are setting about 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.840 how to actually deal with immigration Customs enforcement, which is 0:19:54.880 --> 0:19:57.800 ice with their forty seven day training. But thank you 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:59.480 so much for all you're doing, and I look forward 0:19:59.480 --> 0:20:01.000 to seeing on here again soon. 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.640 Thank you for having me and kick there. 0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:16.840 So y'all, I think that what is important to know 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:21.159 here is that knowing your rights hasn't changed, but the 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:24.760 people who are enforcing those rights and the folks who 0:20:24.800 --> 0:20:28.879 have to abide by those are changing. The standard is changing. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:33.560 The sheriff said something so compelling just moments ago about 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:37.080 the fact that these people are receiving forty seven days 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.480 of training. That's a little over a month and a half, right, 0:20:41.160 --> 0:20:43.280 a month and a half of training, and you're expected 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:45.639 to understand what you learn in five to six months 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.119 or as a career law enforcement professional. We're getting a 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:55.880 lot of questions and comments, and so here's the first 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.680 one from Ray Vega Ken Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:02.240 who murdered Renee be brought forward in handcuffs. Is there 0:21:02.280 --> 0:21:04.919 any attempt to bring him down? He needs to be 0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:08.520 in prison for good, And you know, I don't know 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:11.240 the answer to that. I think what would be really compelling, y'all, 0:21:11.400 --> 0:21:15.199 is as you have these interactions with law enforcement, with 0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:18.639 well with Ice enforcement, because to the point that the 0:21:18.680 --> 0:21:22.119 sheriff so eloquently brought up and addressed. We don't know 0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.119 if these folks are actually law enforcement or not. We 0:21:27.200 --> 0:21:29.639 know that they've received a crash course and as a result, 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:32.760 they crashing into stuff. They're crashing into our constitutional rights. 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:37.280 They're violating people, they haven't done proper background checks. They're 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.000 all kinds of things that ICE is doing improperly in 0:21:40.040 --> 0:21:43.080 this moment that are putting American citizens at risk and 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:46.560 the people who are living here. And so I don't 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:48.920 know if Jonathan Ross can be brought forth in handcuffs. 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:51.399 But here's what I do know. You all should be 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:57.040 calling your city attorneys, your DA's, your state attorneys general, 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:02.240 and let them know when ICE has violate constitutional rights, 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:04.480 when they have run a foul of the law, you 0:22:04.480 --> 0:22:08.280 should let them know. Perhaps that means that the DA 0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:12.800 in your city, in your county will go after that 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:17.680 ICE agent and prosecute them right and a warrant could 0:22:17.680 --> 0:22:19.720 be issued for their arrest, and then they're brought forth 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.080 in hand I'm not really here for the pageantry about 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.000 whether or not someone has brought out shackled or handcuffed 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.760 or any of that. What I'm here for is justice. 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:30.840 What I'm here for is ensuring that people can safely 0:22:30.960 --> 0:22:33.560 walk about their communities. They can go to the store, 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.880 they can take their kids to school. These kids can 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:39.560 go to school without issue. And right now we can't 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.960 say that that's the case. So I don't know whether 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:43.840 or not he can be brought forth in handcuffs, But 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:46.720 I do know that if your rights have been violated 0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:49.399 by ICE or by border patrol, because all of a sudden, 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:53.000 border patrol is also on the street, right let your 0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:56.280 city attorney, your district attorney, your state attorney general know. 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:02.960 Let's see we have uh. Let's see the UH. I 0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.399 don't understand what that means. Can every agent ICE agent 0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:10.160 involved in illegal and sickening acts be arrested and brought 0:23:10.200 --> 0:23:14.000 on Trout just gave my recommendation there, and then why 0:23:14.119 --> 0:23:16.960 is this getting attention and not the black American man 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:19.119 shah bab do the ICE in LA I actually have 0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:21.280 spent time talking about that. I hope that you'll run 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:25.320 that thing back. We talked about it in last week's episode. 0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.639 The man that you're naming is a forty something year 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:30.960 old man who was in Northridge, California. His name is 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:36.240 Keith Porter Junior, Keith Porter was celebrating New Year's Eve 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.720 and he fired his weapon into the sky. An ICE 0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:43.920 agent who lived in the same complex decided to take 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:47.280 it upon himself and be the vigilante that day and 0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:52.840 confront Keith Porter based on what's being reported, h and 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:55.679 asked him to drop his weapon without saying who he 0:23:55.760 --> 0:23:59.560 is or properly identify himself again the mask in another form. 0:24:00.400 --> 0:24:03.479 He shot and killed Keith Porter. And now Keith Porter's 0:24:03.520 --> 0:24:06.040 family is suffering, the community suffering. And so for those 0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:09.800 of you who are at home wondering what ICE has 0:24:09.840 --> 0:24:13.280 to do with us, Ice is so cold that Ice 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.280 doesn't care if you're a citizen or not. Ice is 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:19.000 so cold that it doesn't care if you have temporary 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:22.720 protected status or not. Ice is so cold, And so 0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:26.160