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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat. Oh what a glorious morning for

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Hi everyone, on this ninth of December twenty

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Speaker 2: A oh, I should say an award winning show. I

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Speaker 2: should say a motherfucking back to back award winning show.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot to get to today, ladies and gentlemen. Yes,

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Speaker 2: we in fact did win the World MMA Awards. We

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Speaker 2: were not in Vegas last night. BC is gone today.

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Speaker 2: You'll notice he's not here. Unfortunately, you're like, oh, BC

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Speaker 2: picks great times to not be on the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: He's missing Bellatore tonight. He's missing the last pay per

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Speaker 2: Of course, we're gonna lead off in just a few

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Speaker 3: for being exactly who you are. Guys, this MK thing

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Speaker 2: lot of submission threats on top Kimoras or Americanas or

425
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Speaker 2: something like that, or arm bars if you somehow able

426
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,480
Speaker 2: to pass him mount even from the back. He just

427
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: does not like it doesn't look to me like the

428
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of guy who's going to go and lock up

429
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:00,800
Speaker 2: chokes and risk getting dumped. He's going to make good

430
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: decisions about positioning. But what I think you are gonna

431
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 2: see is some takedowns. Some of that will work to

432
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 2: drain him, some of that will involve ground and pound,

433
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 2: and then beyond that it will make his boxing work

434
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,479
Speaker 2: much better because everything will be feeding into it together.

435
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be the key. I mean, think

436
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,320
Speaker 2: about what happens if you take Bulhovich down, right. I'm

437
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 2: not saying he's got a bad ground game. He doesn't.

438
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: I mean the guy is, you know, highly decorated for

439
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 2: a reason. But if you take Bulhovich down, is he

440
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 2: a thread off of his back? And you could be like, well,

441
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 2: Paul Craig got him, But that was on Kliev's debut,

442
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: and I don't think that would happen again and again

443
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 2: in general in general, the rule is, I would say

444
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 2: he's very very careful defensively sound. How many times have

445
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: we talked about how good it can be to be

446
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: defensively sound, even if you don't have from a notoriety standpoint,

447
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 2: the best offense Hello islam Makachev fits that bill perfectly.

448
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 2: So I don't think that's necessarily gonna be the situation

449
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 2: here where we oh, his offense is good but not superdynamic.

450
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 2: Yeahs defense is good, though it's really good. He's got

451
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 2: a good takedown defense. He doesn't get hit cleanly very often.

452
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: He can mix it up. I think that is going

453
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 2: to be what you're looking for. It's not to say

454
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 2: one more time that if on Kliev doesn't get the

455
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 2: takedown that there's no hope of winning. What I am

456
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: gonna say is if you see on Kalia of getting

457
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 2: the takedown, that spells trouble. That spells big trouble for Belhovich.

458
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 2: The stats speak to that, the history speaks to that,

459
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 2: and I think even if you didn't have that, the

460
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 2: tape speaks to that. The tape kind of shows you.

461
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 2: Once you can get him working back to his feet,

462
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 2: or him underneath with his guard or whatever, he's just

463
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,360
Speaker 2: not He can be defensively sound Blovich. He can survive,

464
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 2: but he's not really gonna threaten you from there. To

465
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 2: threaten you, he either has to be on top or

466
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 2: at range. Those are the two places that Belhovich does

467
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 2: his best work. So a smart fighter, an experienced fighter,

468
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: a championship level fighter, which both guys are at this point,

469
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: certainly blow Itch as the previous champion. I think that

470
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: mixing it up for on Calieve is what you're looking

471
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Speaker 2: for here. I think the takedown is going to be hey,

472
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 2: not so much because the ground and pound or the

473
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: sub will be there, although you might get some of

474
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Speaker 2: the ground and pound, because what it does to the

475
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 2: overall offense and how it brings his game to life.

476
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 2: A couple of questions from you guys here on Twitter,

477
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Dan O'Connor asks what do you think is the best

478
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: path of victory for Yan and does it favor him

479
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: if it goes into the championship rounds. I actually feel

480
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: like he should be doing the leg kicking. I think

481
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: he needs to slow down the movement of on Calive.

482
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 2: Now you risk the takedown with the leg kicking, but

483
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: if you go to calf kicking, you can a do

484
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: it further away and be you can retreat more easily,

485
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: So that might be a good path I think as well.

486
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: Plus if you've got the longer reach. There was one

487
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: more stat about the reach that I wanted to read

488
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Speaker 2: you for on Calive listened to this one, but this

489
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 2: is from Richard Van. Let me pull this over here

490
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: so I'm not looking like a crazy person. Quote. One

491
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: potential factor in the striking realm will be reached. Despite

492
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: being one inch shorter than on Caliev, Willhovich has a

493
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 2: seventy eight inch reach that gives him a three inch

494
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 2: reach advantage. The Russian fighter has faced only one opponent

495
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,679
Speaker 2: in the UFC with a reach greater than seventy six inches,

496
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 2: and it was the only fighter where he was outlanded.

497
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: He faced off against Nikita Krilov, who was listed with

498
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Speaker 2: a seventy seven inch reach and was outlanded forty seven

499
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Speaker 2: to fifty forty three on significant strikes, so he was

500
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Speaker 2: barely outlanded. I would also say Krilov is a little

501
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: less judicious maybe than on Caliev, Like he just kind

502
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 2: of throws with a little bit more recklessness. Nevertheless, you

503
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: see there, This is why I think striking is going

504
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: to be a component. The takedown is going to be

505
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 2: the sealing aspect of it. All right, So that's sort

506
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Speaker 2: of how I'm working this out. Now. Let me see

507
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: here very quickly. One second let me make an adjustment here,

508
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: Oh my thing? All right, very good. Now let's go

509
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: to some other fights on this actually, you know, let

510
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 2: me get a couple more questions in here, and then

511
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: we'll go to the other fights on this card. In

512
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 2: the Guillotine podcast, they ask who will bring more value

513
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 2: to the division by taking the light heavyweight built on Saturday. Honestly,

514
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: I think on Caliav only because I think he can

515
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,399
Speaker 2: bring stability to the division. I think they want to

516
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: make inroads in with not taking shows to Russia but

517
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 2: getting more talent recruited. That direction would be a big

518
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 2: one blohoa, which would be good too. I don't think

519
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 2: they'd be happy or unhappy either way. But also if

520
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: on Calliav wins and then has to fight either Yearie again,

521
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 2: how are you pronounce it or Glover? It's fresh matchups?

522
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: And then Jared asks could you go over a few

523
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 2: things that make Yon so special? Defending the light kicks

524
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: is a big one. Ridiculous power, good patience. No one

525
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 2: ever talks about his patients like he used to run

526
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 2: into punches and blitz a little bit more. He doesn't

527
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 2: do that hardly at all. It's just not a big component,

528
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: and of course back to the ground game, one of

529
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,159
Speaker 2: the weaknesses. He saw it against Glover, who has very

530
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 2: good jiu jitsu, he can be overwhelmed there on top.

531
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the comin event here. Not

532
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: much of a comain event in terms of like the

533
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: stakes of the division at lightweight. But Patty pimblet mine,

534
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 2: excuse me, minus two fifty to Jared Gordon plus two ten?

535
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: What hinges? Or I should say, what does this fight

536
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 2: hinge on? So I went back and I watched a

537
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: fair amount of tape on Gordon and a fair amount

538
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: of tape on Patty pimblet. Let me read to you

539
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 2: who they have beaten since they got to the UFCO,

540
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 2: their last five. Now, this is only the fourth fight

541
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: for Patty in the UFC. So he's got the win

542
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: over Vendramini. He's got the win over Vargas, and then

543
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: the last fight he had to win over Jordan Levitt.

544
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: For Jared Gordon, he has wins over a Fish Gold,

545
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: wins over Chavez, wins over Celeski, the loss to Grant Dawson,

546
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: who's a very good fighter, and then he had the

547
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: win over Santos. Now the win over Santos is a

548
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm not sure what to make of it.

549
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 2: The fight was at altitude. I think this was the

550
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: one that was in Salt Lake City. Yes, I think

551
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 2: that's right. And Santos is also forty two. Couldn't get

552
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: the fight to the floor. Also, there was one moment

553
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: where he could have got in the fight to the floor,

554
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: but inadvertently or otherwise, Gordon grabbed the fence. The commentators

555
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 2: noted it, I was thinking about this fight, like, statistically,

556
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: what does this fight hang on? These guys have a

557
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: lot of similarities in a number of ways as well.

558
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: Gordon lance five point five to three strikes per minute,

559
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 2: so he's very active. I would not say he's a

560
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: heavy puncher, but he is a fairly consistent one. He

561
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: also likes to go to the body four point one

562
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: to nine for Patty Pimblet. He'll kind of blitz through,

563
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: so he has a higher number than normal, but it's

564
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: not it's not great lower accuracy fifty eight for Gordon,

565
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 2: fifty three for Pimblet. Not a huge difference when there

566
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 2: strikes absorbed. They both they both eat a lot of

567
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: punches three flat for Pimblet three point one to one

568
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 2: for Gordon. Here's the big one defense Jared Gordon fifty

569
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: seven percent. That's high. That's good, not super high, but

570
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: that's that's good. It's a good number. Pimblet forty one.

571
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 2: That's not great. That's not great at all. We have

572
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: seen it before. The biggest weakness to me, people say

573
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: it's the striking of Patty Pimblets. Pimbletz striking is definitely

574
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: not as good as his ground game. That's true, and

575
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 2: there's holes you can poke in in a lot of

576
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: different ways. But the truth be told here. The big

577
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: issue for me on this one, very easily is he

578
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: just walks into a lot of punches. His striking defenses.

579
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: I'll just be honest, it's poor. It's poor. I think

580
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: his back takes and his ground game there are phenomenal.

581
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: But on the feet he the UFC has match made

582
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 2: him the right way. They've not put him up against

583
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 2: someone who's a dynamic striking threat. I would actually argue

584
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: Gordon is the best striking threat that he has faced,

585
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: albeit one who has high volume which can be problematic

586
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 2: for opponents, but not again, not huge power that we

587
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: have seen. But that's one key to this. Every time

588
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: this has been a problem for him in Cage Warriors.

589
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 2: It's been a problem for him in the UFC. Not

590
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: one that has cost him to fight in the UFC,

591
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 2: but a consistent problem. Nevertheless, you go to the grappling

592
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 2: side of things, one point eight eight for Patty Pimblet

593
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 2: strikes or me takedowns per fifteen minutes, it's pretty good.

594
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: Jered Gordon little bit higher one point nine to seven.

595
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: Takedown accuracy about the same forty per for Pemblet, thirty

596
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: nine for Gordon. Take down defense not much different, sixty

597
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 2: percent for Pimblet, eight percent for Jared Gordon. The big

598
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: difference is submission average per fifteen minutes four point seven

599
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 2: for Patty, zero for Jared Gordon. Huge difference there By

600
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: the way, Jared Gordon is a John Danaher brown belt.

601
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: Let me just explain something to you folks. There's brown

602
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 2: belts and then there's John Danaher brown belts. He ain't

603
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: given out brown belts very easily. Right, he ain't given

604
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: him out very easily. You're gonna have to earn that one.

605
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 2: And so what does this fight come down to? I

606
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 2: have gone back and forth on this one. It to

607
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 2: me is very winnable in either direction because for all

608
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: of these striking deficiencies that are known about Paddy Pimblet

609
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 2: and that have been a continuous problem for him. Quite frankly,

610
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 2: it could cost him here, could cost him in any

611
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: fight in the UFC. These are small gloves, these are

612
00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: talented guys, they're in shape, they're experienced. Yes, that could

613
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 2: be very poor for him, but you have to think

614
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: win or lose. This is going to be a function

615
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: of what happens in the ground game unless Gordon like

616
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: assiduously avoids that, which is also possible. But maybe at

617
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: that point Patty can get him down or drag him

618
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 2: into it or something if you go fight for Gordon.

619
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 2: He was able to stuff some takedowns, put pressure on

620
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 2: Dawson late, especially in the third round right where he

621
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: was stuff and takedowns and rib roasting him against the fence.

622
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 2: But the vast majority of the time what you did

623
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: see was that Dawson was a able to make contact

624
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 2: like close quarters, body lock, underhook something, run him into

625
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: the fence, and then off single leg attacks either trip

626
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: him out or run the pipe and put him on

627
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: the ground. It was a big problem for him, and

628
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 2: then he would of course turn his back to try

629
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: and get to the fence, and a lot of times

630
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 2: he was giving up his back. Now, I think Dawson

631
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 2: has much better wrestling than Patty pimblet, but it goes

632
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 2: to show you there are some certain vulnerabilities there. Again,

633
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: some of the stats speak to that. You go to

634
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: the Joe Cileski fight. Now, he ended up beating Seleski,

635
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: which is a nice win. That's a tough guy to beat,

636
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: but Celeski, at least early on, was able to get

637
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: the takedowns pretty easily because of the volume. This is

638
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 2: the sort of downside to Gordon's style, and I think

639
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: there's a load of incongruity there. The amount of volume

640
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: that he throws without the requisite power being there means

641
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: it gives guys a lot of times if you're throwing

642
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: a big hook like this, it gives them time to

643
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: get underneath constantly. And that's how Dawson was able to

644
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: do it. He kind of would wait for some opening

645
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: that was never too far behind by virtue of how

646
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: much Gordon throws and was able to get under it.

647
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 2: And you can see there was able to and this

648
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: is the Celeski fight, was able to take the back

649
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 2: for a time and do everything else now again, Gordon

650
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: showed up until the third round of the Dawson fight.

651
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: Good submission defense, good patience, he knows how to get

652
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 2: up again. Once he gets up, he's going right to work.

653
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: I think he's got a good gas tank. So I'll

654
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 2: say this, I feel like, what does this fight hinge on?

655
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: Once again? It's not to say that if Gordon goes

656
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: to the ground with Patty he can't win. There was

657
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 2: one time where Dawson took him down, so or was

658
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 2: trying to take him down, so Gordon threatened with a choke.

659
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: Dawson got him down, but then Gordon flipped him over

660
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: and was able to keep the choke on the front

661
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: headlock and then get up there and stand. So even

662
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: if it goes to the ground, both guys can scramble

663
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. But I just feel like when it

664
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,719
Speaker 2: goes to the ground, Patty is better. For all of

665
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: his deficiencies on the feet, Patty is better on the ground.

666
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: Is a much more vigorous and I think better submission

667
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: hunter in those places. To me, this is really going

668
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 2: to be a function of again, if it goes to

669
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: the ground, that's not saying Gordon can't or won't win. Hell,

670
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 2: look at the takedown defense of Patti's just sixty percent.

671
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: He might get on top and pound him out. It's

672
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: very possible. But I think going back to the Santos fight,

673
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: different opponent, different considerations, altitude being chief among them. My

674
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 2: big takeaway is if he can keep it on the feet,

675
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: this is his fight to lose. Easier said than done, certainly,

676
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 2: but to me it's easier. That's really the mechanism by

677
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: which he'll get there. We are asked, according to Ryan says,

678
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 2: let's see big congratulations. Okay, what's your interest? Love? And

679
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 2: seeing the promotion book Patty versus Taporia one fifty five.

680
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: If they both pass their respective tests, Let's see Ilia

681
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: get past Bryce Mitchell. But if they do that, honestly,

682
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 2: that might be a bad fight for Patty. I don't know, uh.

683
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 2: And then another person asks, assuming Patty wins, how long

684
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: before they need to give him a ranked opponent one

685
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: or fight or two more? Let's see what he looks

686
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: like against Gordon, if he ekes by Gordon too, if

687
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: he like goes in there and really shows us some development.

688
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: One one is what I would say, don't have a

689
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: whole lot to say about Santiago poons and Nibbio versus

690
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: Alex Moreno. Plus we have to get to some other stuff,

691
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: so I'll just say Ponzinibbio. Remember he's supposed to fight

692
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 2: Robby Lawler. Lawler coming in or excuse me being removed

693
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 2: from the car due to injury late notice more No

694
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: coming in. He's a plus one fifty five underdog to

695
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: a minus one of these Santiago, Ponsinnibia more and No

696
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 2: is a overall very skilled fighter who I think has

697
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: a great coach in say Soud and a good connection

698
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 2: with the coach, like when the coach asks him to

699
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: do something, he does it's kind of important. Also a

700
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 2: guy who you can tell from like for example the

701
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 2: Seroni fight and even the Pettis fight. Believes in game

702
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: plans and rides them out until their conclusion. I think

703
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: that might help him here. Still the slicker of the two,

704
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: and the one who's shown I think a little bit

705
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 2: more promise has been Ponzinibio. However, more and Oh is

706
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 2: you know this stage of the career he's in, this

707
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 2: is the best version he's ever been. So the odds

708
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 2: are pretty close. I would slightly lean towards Santiago being

709
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: again a little bit more of a slick stir on

710
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: the feet. But we shall see Darren Till at plus

711
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 2: one fifty five taken on Drica's duplesse at minus one

712
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: point eighty. This is you saw Daniel Cormier like not

713
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: mincing words about this one. I think he's right. This

714
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 2: is a very very, very very important fight in the

715
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: career of Darren til Let's look at his last five fights.

716
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 2: Lost to Tyron Woodley, lost to Jorge Masdal by the

717
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: way he got submitted and put out in both of

718
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: those split decision went over Gastolon. It's tough loss to Whitaker,

719
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: a good fight, but you know he was overly out.

720
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: He was eventually outmatched and then he got finished off

721
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: by Derek Brunson. In the case of Drickis duples see

722
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 2: wins over Perez, Trevin Giles and Brad Tavares, and what

723
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 2: do we see from that? Driggs duples very very athletic.

724
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 2: You can watch his fights with Roberto Soldic over in KSW.

725
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: He's got good power, he brings a lot of dynamism

726
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 2: to the fight. He will run in with his chin

727
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 2: up a little bit, so you wonder about that. Statistically,

728
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 2: Listen to these numbers here from driggis dupless six point

729
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: five to five strikes landing permitted. It just an absolute

730
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: shit ton huge numbers here for Till just in anemic

731
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: two point twenty six strike subsord permanent four point two three.

732
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: So here's the thing about duples c. He dishes. Don't

733
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: get it twisted. He dishes. He takes a lot of abuse.

734
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: Four point two to three strikes subsord permittent is high.

735
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: That's high for Till. It's just three. Now. The bad

736
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: news for Till is he's got a negative differential still right.

737
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: He eats more than he lands, but it's not a

738
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: huge difference, and at a bare minimum, the amount he

739
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: eats is typically much lower. His striking defense, by the way,

740
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 2: fifty eight percent to fifty two for Drinis Dupless Dricus

741
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: will look for a takedown at least once per fifteen minutes.

742
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 2: You can count on that. His takedown defense up to

743
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 2: this point has been one hundred percent. I don't expect

744
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: that necessarily to change. His takedown accuracy just eighteen percent,

745
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 2: So he's not much of a takedown threat. So this

746
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 2: fight is going to be decided on the feet. Here's

747
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,919
Speaker 2: the thing, folks, here's the thing. Till, to me has

748
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: shown more striking ability than Duplessy. I think that's pretty fair, Okay.

749
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: I think he is better with his accuracy. I think

750
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: he's better with shot selection. I just think he's got

751
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 2: more tools. But not only does Duplessy throw a lot

752
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: of volume, and land's really hard in conjunction with that

753
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: volume in terms of how he can disrupt the spacing.

754
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: He just makes guys work a little bit and doesn't

755
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 2: mind eating one to do it. I know this is

756
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: at one five and it's only three rounds. I'm not

757
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: saying Till's gonna gas, although he did a little bit

758
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 2: in the Dolby fight. I'm just sort of pointing out

759
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: not about that. Is it possible that Till lands big

760
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: shots on him but not enough, and that by virtue

761
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 2: of just the amount of work that a guy like

762
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 2: Duplessy does, that is enough to get the judges to

763
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 2: give him the nod. It is that's imply, folks, very

764
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: much in play. He could just outwork them. He could

765
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,479
Speaker 2: take some big shots, but he might just land more

766
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: simply by virtue of the amount of volume that he

767
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: throws again, two point twenty six strikes landed per minute

768
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: for Darren Till. That's anemic. That is low. That's like

769
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: Islam Makachev numbers. And yes, of course he's very talented.

770
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 2: He one his last fight, but in terms of imagine

771
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: he just had to fight on the feet, and not

772
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: just against Strales Olivera, you could imagine how eventually that

773
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: might be a little bit of a problem for him.

774
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: So to me on this one, what you're really gonna

775
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: need to see from Till is effective counter striking, which

776
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: at times he's done, but against Jorge Masvidal he didn't. Right.

777
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: And when I say effective countering, that doesn't mean he

778
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: won't pressure dupless backwards. But when I say counter, I

779
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: mean whatever else he's doing, backing up, moving forwards, fainting.

780
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 2: I'm talking about eliciting a reaction or getting a reaction

781
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 2: and then having an answer for that. Either Till's gonna

782
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 2: do that or he's not. And if he doesn't, this

783
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 2: is hopeless for him. And if he loses this one, frankly,

784
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,439
Speaker 2: he's got some serious questions to ask about the state

785
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: of his career. Speaking of which questions here from ACL media.

786
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: Coming off of a two fight losing streak of multiple injuries,

787
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: is Darren Till's fight against Dupless the most important fight

788
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 2: in his career? Well, a title fight would be more important.

789
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: But it does feel like this is a reckoning. You had,

790
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: all this hype, you had all this time. You should

791
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: be better than you are by now something to think about.

792
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,479
Speaker 2: It feels like a make or break situation, impactful towards

793
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,360
Speaker 2: his UFC career moving forward. Yes, simply no denying it.

794
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the card opener just a

795
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: little bit. Bryce Mitchell at plus one ten, excuse me,

796
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: plus one twenty taken on Ilia to Taporia at minus

797
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: How about this stat It's a very very suspicious stat

798
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: So I went and I double checked it, but I'm

799
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 2: gonna read it to you just the same you would

800
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: imagine on the feet to Pooria would handle Bryce Mitchell

801
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 2: right on the feet doesn't necessarily land a ton, but

802
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: you saw his power against Ji Herbert up away class.

803
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean to Poria can fucking thump. How about the

804
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: hammer fists that put down Ryan Hall as well? The

805
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 2: dude can crack only lands two point eight seven strikes.

806
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 2: Per minute only absorbs two point two eight, so he's

807
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: got a positive differential not much, and by the way,

808
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: even better for Bryce Mitchell two point two eight strikes

809
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 2: landing permnutent just absorbing one point three to nine. However,

810
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 2: allot of that as a function of just spending time

811
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 2: in the ground game. Now, what is the takedown defense

812
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: of Ilia Toporia? What's his takedown defense? I had to

813
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 2: ask you, it's one hundred percent, one hundred percent for

814
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: Ilio to Porio. So I was like, okay, but who

815
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: is he fought? Like that doesn't even make any sense

816
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: in the UFC, Like, have we really seen them tested?

817
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,919
Speaker 2: He fought yusuf Zilul, he fought Damon Jackson, he fought

818
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 2: Ryan Hall, and he fought Jie Herbert. He might be like, okay, well,

819
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: Ryan Hall's a better grappler than Bryce Mitchell, so certainly

820
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 2: that counts for something. And I know some folks I

821
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: was saying, is he really a better grappler? Yes, Ryan

822
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: Hall has a bronze medal from ADCC and he beat

823
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: Jeff Glover to do it. Yes he is a better grappler,

824
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: but in mma terms, he's not the same kind of

825
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: grappler at all. Right, he's doing the iminari roles and

826
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: everything else, the inversions. Bryce Mitchell is much more of

827
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: a straightforward wrestler. Frankly, here's the reality, folks. We've just

828
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: not seen him tested to poria against someone like this.

829
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: This is why this fight is so interesting because I

830
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: guarantee you that one hundred percent takedown defensive rate is

831
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 2: gonna get tested. It's gonna get tested big time. And

832
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 2: he has not faced a takedown threat like this in

833
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: the UFC. He's faced other good grapplers, that's true, but

834
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: not the kind of way that Bryce Mitchell puts it together.

835
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 2: That is what makes it interesting. Of course, on the ground,

836
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: he has a black belt, so he's hardly some chump.

837
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: He's young. The guy was born a year after graduated

838
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 2: high school, right. I mean, you know we're not talking

839
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 2: about some guy who's got a lot of miles on him.

840
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: We know his power carries, so you would imagine by

841
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: the way he's got takedowns himself. He got five against

842
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 2: the Lall, he got one against Jih Herbert when he

843
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 2: needed it. I think it's when he got rocked. But

844
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: this is a very i want to say easy fight

845
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: to assess. But it's a pretty simple fight to assess,

846
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: right If to Poria can stuff enough of the takedowns

847
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 2: where he's not constantly fighting them off and he's able

848
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 2: to create space and the fights on the feet, it's

849
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 2: just hard to see how Bryce Mitchell wins. Very hard

850
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: to see how he wins. I don't think he's striking

851
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: as bad per se, but it's just not what's going

852
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: to get him to win here, not against the guy

853
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: who can hit like this, who is as good an

854
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: athletic and nimble on the feet as a guy like this.

855
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: Just very unusual. Plus, by the way, to Porio got

856
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 2: rocked in that Ji Herbert fight and rallied big time. Okay,

857
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 2: showed a ton of heart and then came out there

858
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: and then put his lights out. It looked like he

859
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: had sliced Ji Herbert with a sword. He fell so

860
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 2: hard it was his unbelievable collapse. It's not that difficult

861
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 2: to figure out here. This one is this, you know,

862
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: striker versus grappler is a little bit overstated given it

863
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: in one case the striker has got a black belt

864
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu and can also wrestle, and in the

865
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: other case, you've got a guy who can also wrestle

866
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: with great jiu jitsu, but also you know he can

867
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 2: strike a little bit. The thing that really have to

868
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: pay attention to is if he does get taken down.

869
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: If that does happen. One of the things that makes

870
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 2: Bryce Mitchell's style that's so overwhelming is he works on pins, right,

871
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: He's very good about top pressure, passing pressure. He does

872
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 2: a lot of what the Dagistani guys do where he

873
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 2: uses his legs to anchor himself and then wrap his

874
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: opponent's legs and then by as a consequence, uses that

875
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: to drive down on them with his shots. So he

876
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: can he has this a way where he'll use his

877
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: legs to tie up your legs and then naturally what

878
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: that does is and he says very clearly in the

879
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: Barboza fight, Barboza would use his hands to address the

880
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 2: legs of Bryce Mitchell, which would leave his face wide open.

881
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,600
Speaker 2: And of course this is the game he plays with you,

882
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 2: right if he gets on top and not fully mount.

883
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: But let's say he wraps the legs together with his

884
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: own like Kabib style. Yeah, against the fence. If you're

885
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: the opponent there, you have a choice to make. The

886
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: choice you have to make is I can use my

887
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: hands to push on Bryce Mitchell, and if I do,

888
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get punched. But here's the thing. Bryce is

889
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: gonna break you down and put you flat on your back.

890
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: And if you don't use your hands obviously to push

891
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: his legs, he's gonna punch you. If you bring your

892
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 2: hands to defend yourself, he's gonna slide up. He's gonna

893
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: get take an even more dominant mount position. So pick

894
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: your poison, fellas. You want to get punched in the face.

895
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: I wanted to take high mount on you. This is

896
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 2: the dilemma. Or teases the back. He'll actually tease you

897
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: to go to the back and then they'll take it

898
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: from there. These are the choices he makes you do.

899
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: You can see here with this clip well or these

900
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: these excuse me, these photos of what he does to Barboza,

901
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: making you make impossible choices. Either protect your face or

902
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 2: protect them ount. You're not gonna do both at the

903
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 2: same time. Either way, you're gonna lose to pooria A

904
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: has to stop that before he gets started, or b

905
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: he has to find some kind of very nimble athletic

906
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: way to basically just do like a wrestle up to

907
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: get up out of it. He can't allow that to

908
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 2: continue because Bryce Mitchell. And by the way, you can

909
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: turn Bryce and Bryce is a threat off of his

910
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: back in ways that we're not sure if Taporia is,

911
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 2: even though he's a very good black belt. So this

912
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: is a fun one. This is a really fun one.

913
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: The odds on this one, let me see the odds

914
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 2: as I mentioned before. Yeah, Bryce Mitchell plus one twenty

915
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: to Pooria minus one forty. Oh those are tough ones.

916
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 2: Tough ones, tough ones. Now, someone asks, if Bryce Mitchell wins,

917
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: is him versus Ortega the fight to make? I would

918
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: have to see what the timeline would be. Let me

919
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: look up the rankings here very quickly if I can

920
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: for just a second. So if we look at the

921
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: rankings here at featherweight, what does it saying what would

922
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: Bryce be in that moment? So Bryce is sitting at

923
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: nine to Poria sitting at fourteen. Now you're saying, if

924
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,240
Speaker 2: Bryce wins, he kind of stays in place. What about Ortega?

925
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: The problem is you have Giga Chakazi, Calvin Cator, Korean

926
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: zombies out because of a shoulder injury. And then Josh

927
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: Emmon arl and Josh Emmons on there. So potentially he

928
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: could fight Ortega. But Ortega sitting in the top three,

929
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,799
Speaker 2: I tend to think they might give him somebody else,

930
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: like a Chikazi or you know, f Loev something something

931
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 2: like that, rather than going right to Ortega. But I'll

932
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 2: say this, man, you guys know how it goes. It's

933
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 2: not just who you beat and how you beat them,

934
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: or I should say it's not just who you beat,

935
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 2: but also how you beat them, Like how dominant was it?

936
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: Did you finish them in there and just beats the

937
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: breaks off of Taporia and then rag dolls him. Anything's possible.

938
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Plus if he goes in there and rag dolls him,

939
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: people tend to like Bryce Mitchell. If he has a

940
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: good call out afterwards, it's possible. I'm just gonna say,

941
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: to do that, a lot of factors have to line up,

942
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 2: so not the likeliest thing. But I know what you're

943
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 2: talking about. Hey, let's get a grappler versus a grappler.

944
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,759
Speaker 2: You know, two guys who are very nimble with it,

945
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: But in that case, you might end up seeing them,

946
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: you know, just lug it out in the feet. So

947
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: that's your main card. Now we're gonna go to Dan

948
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Knobio here in just a minute. Let's what I'm gonna

949
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: do is we're gonna do this UFC preview, We'll talk

950
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,800
Speaker 2: to Dan about boxing, and then we'll come back and

951
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 2: do Belltor because we're just out of time to fit

952
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: it all in, so let's just talk very quickly about

953
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,240
Speaker 2: the rest of this card. I don't have strong thoughts

954
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: about a lot of them, but you've got gyr Zeno

955
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 2: rosenstrike taken on Chris daucas daucas A plus one forty

956
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: five rosen strike minus one seventy. It seems like Dawcas

957
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 2: might oblige him on the feet. I don't know how

958
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: smart that is, but if it does stay on the feet,

959
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: you do tend to like rosen strikes accurate, rosen strokes

960
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 2: accuracy a little bit better. Then we have the youngster,

961
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: the seventeen year old who made his debut Raoul. It's

962
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 2: gonna be Rowel Rosas Junior taken on Jay Perrin Rossas

963
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: Junior minus two thirty. I tend to think this is

964
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: something along the lines of hand picked opposition. They gave

965
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 2: him a guy who's good, who's good you know, there's

966
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: all kinds of questions about Rosas Junior's future that are

967
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 2: very very fair, but I don't know that this one

968
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 2: is gonna be the one that tells us a lot.

969
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 2: UFC is pretty good about getting guys who are developmental,

970
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 2: like two or three really good fights before they can

971
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: turn up the heat on them. I think you saw

972
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 2: that with Stage North Cut, so that with Patty Pimblet,

973
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 2: although Pimblet had a lot more experience before he got

974
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 2: to UFC. But you know guys who are in need

975
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: of development anyway, and I tend to think you'll get

976
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 2: that with Robl Rosas Junior. So you know, this fight

977
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 2: or the next one may not necessarily tell you a

978
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 2: whole lot either way, but he should win. If he doesn't,

979
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: will ask some questions afterwards. It's it's kind of a

980
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: weird one. This is a big one. Edmund Shabazi and

981
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: my Armenian Brethren minus two eighty taking on Dulka Lungiambula

982
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: at plus two thirty five now on the MMA on

983
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 2: Twitter asks is it make or break for Edmund Shabazi

984
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 2: and he has made significant changes including his camp and management.

985
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a must win for him

986
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 2: at UFC two eighty two, not only to keep his

987
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: career alive, but mentally as well. Let's review exactly where

988
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: he's been this whole time so you can understand it

989
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: heading into this contest. Let me pull up the stats

990
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 2: here if I may. Yeah, here we go h dhlka lungimbula,

991
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: by the way, best traps in the sport. I mean,

992
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: this guy's trapezist muscles go to the ceiling amazing, But

993
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 2: he takes a lot of punishment three point sixty six

994
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 2: to a absorbed to three point one to eight landed

995
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 2: in terms of strikes per minute, So he's got a

996
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 2: negative differential striking accuracy just four percent, not very high.

997
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 2: Now Shabazian has a negative differential three point twenty four

998
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 2: to four point one three, but a lot of that

999
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: is from ground and as well, not so much like

1000
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: on the feet at range, which is where this is

1001
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: gonna be a bigger issue in terms of takedowns two

1002
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 2: point seven to one for Shabazi, and he does like

1003
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 2: to mix it up that way lugiambula two point four

1004
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: to one, So I do think takedown defense is gonna

1005
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,359
Speaker 2: get tested here either way. Neither has amazing takedown defense,

1006
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: although lug Giambula a little bit better seventy seven percent

1007
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: to the fifty seven percent for Shabazian. But to the

1008
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: point to the person's question, this is Shabazi and this

1009
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 2: is the place he's entered this in he had the

1010
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: winner of for Marshman and in that amazing win of a

1011
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: Brad Tavares. Then he had a terrible loss to Brunson,

1012
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: then a terrible loss to Hermanson, and then a pretty

1013
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,680
Speaker 2: bad loss to Imovov. By contrast, Lugiambula not in a

1014
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 2: much better position. He had the loss to Uncle of

1015
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: the Winniver Perez, he had the lost to Barrio, the

1016
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,319
Speaker 2: lost of Brundage, and then the lost to Soriano. I

1017
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: tend to think on the feet, even with all the issues,

1018
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 2: Shabazi in is way better than Lugiambula and on the

1019
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: ground like he's a powerhouse Lucian, but he's not exactly

1020
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 2: like a finesse guy, which to me is like if

1021
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 2: Shabazian has really worked on getting up, not so much

1022
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 2: fighting off of his back, which I think is a disaster.

1023
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: You saw him try to do that a little bit

1024
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: against Eric Brunson, Brunson's much better than Lugiambula, but still

1025
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: not a not a great call. I think this is

1026
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 2: a winnable fight for him. I do. Both guys, though,

1027
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: are gonna be desperate here, both guys riding three fight

1028
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: losing streaks in the UFC. Folks, I'll tell you back when,

1029
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: like Dan Hardy was fighting in that era, if you

1030
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: had three consecutive losses in the UFC, that almost always

1031
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: meant getting your walking papers almost always. Today's a different day,

1032
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 2: and we've seen guys have much longer losing streaks. It's

1033
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 2: not the same, and I think it's good. I think

1034
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 2: having a more flexible, maybe humane policy is a better idea.

1035
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 2: But nevertheless, these two guys are going to be intensely

1036
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: motivated to get this win. The difference is that Shabazian

1037
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: should have enough takedown defense, would have enough scramble ability,

1038
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: and then certainly on the feet much better, crisper, cleaner,

1039
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 2: more accurate, well time striking. This is going to be

1040
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: Shabazian's fight to lose. The only way he loses this,

1041
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,280
Speaker 2: I want to say, the only way if he can't

1042
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: stop to take down, I think a he'll lose the

1043
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 2: fight and then b it would not speak well to

1044
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 2: his development. He should really be round him the corner

1045
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 2: at this point. He should be at a stage in

1046
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: his career to be able to do something like that.

1047
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,479
Speaker 2: He should be better. His takedown defense should be further

1048
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: along by now, I think is the way I would

1049
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: put that his takedown defense should be further along. So

1050
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see, all right, let me see some

1051
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: of the questions here that you guys have Again, other

1052
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 2: fights on the card. You have Chris Curtis taken on

1053
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: Joaquin Buckley Chris Curtis plus one thirty five underdog Joaquin

1054
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 2: Buckley minus one thirty five, very very closely contested contest.

1055
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: Here's another one that folks aren't talking about that is huge,

1056
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: especially for both guys. Futures MK's favorite Billy Quarantillo taking

1057
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: on Alexander Hernandez. Quarantillo is favored minus one sixty five

1058
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: to Hernandez plus one forty. I feel like Quarantillo's got

1059
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more offensive oomph to his game at

1060
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 2: this stage anyway than Hernandez said. Can you believe Hernandez

1061
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 2: came in and his first two wins he viciously KOed

1062
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: both Oam and Banil Daryush. It's like you just can't

1063
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: believe this was the space this due was in. But okay,

1064
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,760
Speaker 2: minus won ten TJ. Brown to Eric Silva's this's different,

1065
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 2: Eric Silva to plus one ten both. It's a pick

1066
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: of minus one ten both directions. Vnicia Salvador taken on

1067
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 2: Daniel to Silva and then Cameron Simon taken on Steven Coslow.

1068
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 2: Some undercard questions from the fans. Jared holt asks top

1069
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: undercard fighter not getting as much attention as deserved anyone

1070
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 2: with hammer potential. Quarantillo for sure, Corantillo is gonna be

1071
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: one of those Shabazi and is a big one. Obviously,

1072
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 2: all eyes are on Raul Rosas Junior. I'm trying think

1073
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 2: it's anyone else. Yeah, and then the anything from the Corntillo, Hernandez,

1074
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: Curtis Buckley, Shabazi and Lugiambula, Rosas, Preen Rosenstruke, Dawcas, any

1075
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 2: of those are all pretty great prelim card fights, Like,

1076
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: nothing's wrong with any of those. And then I think

1077
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 2: Kate or Katie asks which fighter on the UFC two

1078
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 2: eighty two card would BCSA has the biggest bde got

1079
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: to be Lugiambula. Right. Have you seen that dude's back

1080
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 2: fucking looks like a turtle shell. That dude's so muscular.

1081
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely nuts. All right, let's do this read that we

1082
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: have to do and then we're gonna bring in I

1083
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 2: think Dan in just a few moments. I want to

1084
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 2: remind everyone we have bellatour two eighty nine tonight, UFC

1085
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Speaker 2: two eighty two tomorrow. These cars, of course have hashtag

1086
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Speaker 2: Aaron Blanchfield was our very first Hammer of the Month

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat. Now let me do a bit of a

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Speaker 2: favor for myself here. We turn this back up so

1109
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: I can hear everyone here. We are very good. All

1110
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: were waiting on Dan Kenobio. I think he's around you guys.

1111
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: If you don't follow his stuff, it's pretty interesting. Actually,

1112
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 2: he does a show kind of like MKA. I don't

1113
00:55:57,160 --> 00:55:59,080
Speaker 2: know if it's the boxing version of it because we

1114
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 2: do boxing here and his own little thing, but he

1115
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 2: does it with Chris al Jerry and dude, if you

1116
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 2: haven't heard Chris al Jerry's analysis, like, it's pretty good.

1117
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: Chris al Jerry fought Pacia. Chris all Jerry has seen

1118
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: some shit, you know, he understands, and I think he's

1119
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 2: trained with some MMA guys as well, so he's not

1120
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 2: like a hater on the boxing side. Anyway. They do

1121
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 2: that show over at a place called John Boy Media

1122
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 2: and it's great. I follow him on Twitter. I really

1123
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,920
Speaker 2: like their stuff. They do great social media assets. They

1124
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 2: do all kinds of fun stuff. So we're waiting on him.

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00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 2: We'll get him in just a second. Let me get

1126
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: a sip of this delicious rain energy drink. Hmm. People

1127
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 2: asking my favorite flavor is? This one is cherry limeade.

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Speaker 2: It's not my favorite. I got it because it's all

1129
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: that Target had when I was at Target the other day.

1130
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Speaker 2: My favorite is orange creamsicle. That's that's the lt go

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Speaker 2: to right there, Orange Creamsicle. That one will get you

1132
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 2: going in the morning, boy, believe me. Okay, while we're

1133
00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 2: waiting for Dan, let's go ahead and get to Bellatour.

1134
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: There's no need to wait. We'll pause if we have

1135
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: to and then come back to it. But for right now,

1136
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: let's talk about Belatour. Belatour two eighty nine is tonight

1137
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: on Showtime. So, by the way, I'm gonna be on

1138
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 2: CBS Sports HQ today at one thirty, today at six

1139
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: thirty and after the fights. So if you want some

1140
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 2: analysis for old b more more Baltimore, but for old BMMA.

1141
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 2: You can check me out on CBA Sports HQ. Yeah,

1142
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: all right, your main event. How about this one? Ralphie

1143
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 2: on Statts taking on Danny Sabatelo. These dudes have been

1144
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: all over each other in terms of nasty things said

1145
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: doing media tours together minus one forty for stats Sabatelo

1146
00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 2: plus one twenty. So this is an interesting one. Now, Unfortunately,

1147
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: you guys know me. I love the stats, but we

1148
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: don't have stats for beltour very easily accessible. So I

1149
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 2: had to go back and watch as many fights as

1150
00:57:58,000 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 2: they could to get ready for today. And it just

1151
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: would be that are prepared. And I will tell you

1152
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 2: this is a it's a tough one to call. Both

1153
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 2: guys only have one loss. Now here's what we know

1154
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 2: about Danny Sabatelo. Sabatello has really good wrestling, and I

1155
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: say that for a couple of reasons. One he can

1156
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 2: chain attacks together. Two, this is a thing that I

1157
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 2: don't think he should do, but he does do it,

1158
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 2: and he does it in a way where he gets

1159
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 2: away with it, so it like becomes this like special weapon.

1160
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: Do he shoots from a mile away, A mile away

1161
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: I've said it at the top of the show. I'm

1162
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 2: going to say it again. How far away should you

1163
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: be for a double legg? I should be able to

1164
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: reach out and touch you, and I mean like like

1165
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: out that way, I mean like shoulder square. I can

1166
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: reach out and touch you like that. That is how

1167
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: far you want to be away for a double leg

1168
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: that is proper distancing. He'll do it far outside of that,

1169
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 2: and then that won't necessarily get the takedown, although sometimes

1170
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,560
Speaker 2: it will. But even in cases where it doesn't, he

1171
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 2: chains it together. He stays on top of you. He

1172
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 2: talks a lot about his striking. I don't know that

1173
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: he wants to. I am sure his striking is better

1174
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 2: than his critics imagine it to be. But nevertheless, I

1175
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be really useful here. I

1176
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna make it a big part, because

1177
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: if he does, I think Stotts will sleep him. So

1178
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:27,760
Speaker 2: the question you have to ask yourself is, as we

1179
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: talked about with Big John on Wednesday, how big of

1180
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: a deal is it that there's a cardio component because

1181
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 2: it's five rounds, and how big of a deal is

1182
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: it for everything else? Right? In terms of takedown defence.

1183
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: We're gonna have Dan here in just a minute, so

1184
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: stand by, but let me answer one of these questions

1185
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 2: real quickly as we get him situated. The cardio obviously

1186
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,720
Speaker 2: is important because how long can a guy wrestle like

1187
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:51,400
Speaker 2: that unless he can get to the back and hold it.

1188
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 2: Ken Stotts defend the takedown against Archiletta. He got to

1189
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 2: take down in the first round, but after that he

1190
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: found it very, very very difficult to get one. And

1191
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 2: by the way, Stott's got his own. So even though

1192
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Archiletta was able to get it, Stotts was able to

1193
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: get back up pretty quickly or at least nullify any

1194
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: negative impact from it and then create separation. And then

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01:00:10,040 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: against Maga Man Maga Metov, he was able to get

1196
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Speaker 2: takedowns and the back and kind of outwork him along

1197
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 2: the way to get it. So against two very good wrestlers,

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Speaker 2: what you saw was even if they were able to

1199
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Speaker 2: get him down, they weren't able to hold it very much.

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Speaker 2: He can reverse put a lot of other things together,

1201
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: and on the other on the other side, what he

1202
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 2: can do is he can go on the offense himself.

1203
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: He can get the takedown himself. And then on the feet.

1204
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:39,439
Speaker 2: Forget it. On the feet, he's tremendous. He's much much better.

1205
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 2: Think about the head kick that he got to this

1206
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: point by hitkicking one archer Letter, who, by the way,

1207
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 2: is like a former champion that weight class. I mean,

1208
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 2: just understand that that's the kind of guy we're talking

1209
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Speaker 2: about here. All right, So let's hit the pause button

1210
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 2: on beltur. We will come back to it in just

1211
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Speaker 2: a minute. Let's bring in our guest today. You guys

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Speaker 2: might if you ever heard of copybox, then you have

1213
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 2: certainly used this gentleman's services. But he's in a lot

1214
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Speaker 2: of different places. I watched the show. I love it,

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Speaker 2: Inside Boxing Live on John Boy Media. It's the one

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Speaker 2: and only Dan Kenobio. Hi Dan Luke, what.

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Speaker 4: Is going on? First off, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 6: Second off, congratulations second office out of anything. Congratulations on

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Speaker 6: your guys award two years in a row, Best Media

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Speaker 6: MMA Programming.

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Speaker 4: Awesome.

1222
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Speaker 6: You guys do great work, and I'm ready to talk

1223
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,680
Speaker 6: some boxing. Fun fact. I'm here at John Boy Media offices.

1224
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 6: There's a lock on our studio at eleven fifty. I

1225
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 6: went out to go use the bathroom and lock the

1226
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Speaker 6: door behind me, and for the last fifteen minutes, the

1227
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Speaker 6: entire company was trying to figure out a way to

1228
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Speaker 6: get the door open.

1229
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: Because my laptop is in here, my phone is in here.

1230
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Speaker 6: I couldn't reach out to anyone on your guys and

1231
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 6: to tell him that we're but one of our guys.

1232
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Speaker 6: Rob just literally used a drill and drilled through the

1233
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Speaker 6: lock of.

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Speaker 4: The door and I just slipped in here.

1235
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Speaker 2: Ready to roll. All right, Well, thank you so much

1236
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 2: for committing crimes to be here. I really appreciate it.

1237
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 2: We don't have a moment to waste, so let's get

1238
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: right to it. I'm gonna say it's the big fight,

1239
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 2: but it's really not the big fight. But I want

1240
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 2: to lead with Terence Crawford taking on David Avanissen. I mean,

1241
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: we have talked about this story ad nauseum about how

1242
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: the fight with Spence fell through very quickly. And yes,

1243
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 2: you know we're a CBS's Showtime affiliated thing, but like,

1244
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,920
Speaker 2: what do you make of what happened between Bud Crawford

1245
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: and why he's on b L A K K Prime

1246
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: whatever the fuck that is fighting Evanissan and not fighting Spence?

1247
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:35,439
Speaker 2: What went wrong?

1248
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 4: Money?

1249
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 6: Money, money, money, It's the root of all issues in life,

1250
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 6: especially in boxing when it's free enterprise much it's different

1251
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 6: than MMA for the most part. But he was offered

1252
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 6: a large sum of money to fight a B or

1253
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 6: C level fighter in David Fanessi. And there's no disrespect

1254
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 6: to David Evanessi, but he's just not on the same

1255
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 6: level as Terrence Crawf and I host my show with

1256
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 6: Chris al Jerry, former world.

1257
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Speaker 4: Champion, and I asked him.

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Speaker 6: I was like, how many boxers you included would take

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Speaker 6: ten million dollars? So we said, like, so they say

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01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 6: they're going to be him ten million five up front

1261
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 6: is what Crawford said. He already got to fight a

1262
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 6: B level fighter, and he said ten out of ten

1263
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 6: fighters would do that. So when the fight broke down

1264
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 6: the negotiations between Spence and Crawford, which all fight fights

1265
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 6: at that stature, tend to break down at times before

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01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 6: getting back on and then ultimately happening. He had that

1267
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 6: offer in his back pocket. He ultimately took it, and then.

1268
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 7: Now we're looking at a BLK prime pay per view

1269
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 7: between the pound for pound best fighter in the world

1270
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 7: versus a guy who was last I checked was a

1271
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 7: minus fourteen hundred underdog.

1272
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 2: All right, what do we know at all? Again, I'm

1273
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 2: gonna mispronounce his name David Avanisian, that's correct. Yeah, what

1274
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: do we know about him? Like, give us a scouting report?

1275
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 4: He has very little profile at all.

1276
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 6: I mean a guy is a Russian fighter that has

1277
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 6: been fighting in the UK as of late. This is

1278
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 6: a massive step up in competition for Avanessian.

1279
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 4: I think the toughest pony he faced.

1280
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 6: Was LaMonte Peterson, which was in two thousand and seventeen.

1281
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 6: He fought Meme Machine, who gave Crawford issues, but he

1282
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,480
Speaker 6: ultimately got stopped by Meme Machine. He's got like you know,

1283
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 6: I crunched the numbers and I pulled up a profile

1284
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 6: on him.

1285
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 4: None of his numbers really jump out of you.

1286
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 6: You know, fifty punches around, which is underneath the Wilter

1287
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 6: Wade average. Last thirty percent of his shots was his

1288
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 6: right around average. Gets hit a lot, so there's really

1289
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,520
Speaker 6: nothing that jumps out at the screen to me.

1290
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:35,280
Speaker 4: He's a tough, durable fighter, but I.

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01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,160
Speaker 6: Mean he's going up against one of the best fighters.

1292
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: In the world.

1293
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 6: So the really to answer your question, there is a

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01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:43,200
Speaker 6: lot most boxing fans know about David Evan the scene.

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,600
Speaker 2: How much is the pay per view? Is it like

1296
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 2: fifty bucks or more?

1297
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 4: Last I heard it was forty which is I don't know.

1298
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,400
Speaker 6: I really don't like to get into like what concept

1299
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:56,400
Speaker 6: tutes does a pay per view?

1300
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 4: What doesn't?

1301
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 6: Because everything in the boxing world these days is a

1302
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 6: pay per view and it's up to the consumer if

1303
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 6: they want to buy it.

1304
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 4: A lot of people illegally stream it.

1305
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 6: I would never tell anyone to do that, but that's

1306
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 6: something that happens a lot in both MMA and boxing.

1307
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 4: But I think it's forty bucks.

1308
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 2: Forty bucks, okay? I mean, what do you know about

1309
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,439
Speaker 2: BLK Prime? I mean BC seems to not know jack

1310
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,240
Speaker 2: shit about them, and I don't think he's alone.

1311
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,920
Speaker 6: BC knows nothing about BLK, DC knows nothing about Bokay.

1312
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 6: It's we've seen this a lot in boxing, where these

1313
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 6: entities literally come out of nowhere. Just last month or

1314
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 6: earlier again, in November, Regis Program won a world title

1315
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 6: one hundred and forty pounds beating Jose Sapaido and that

1316
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 6: was on Marv Nation. And when Marv Nation came out

1317
01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 6: of practically nowhere to win that purse bid, the memes

1318
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 6: were hilarious Marv from home alone, Who the heck is Marv?

1319
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 6: Marv Albert? And then we get to fight week or

1320
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 6: fight day and you know it's it looked okay, and

1321
01:05:57,440 --> 01:05:59,760
Speaker 6: you know, everyone seems to get paid in the end.

1322
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 4: But I don't know much about Bok Prime.

1323
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 6: A lot of these companies c boxing as a way

1324
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,440
Speaker 6: to as a low point of entry business wise. This

1325
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:09,920
Speaker 6: is a way we can get a lot of attention

1326
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:13,520
Speaker 6: for our app or or product.

1327
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 4: I don't even know what it is. They gave Crawford

1328
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 4: ten million dollars.

1329
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't have to be a mathematician or

1330
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 6: major in business to know that they're probably gonna lose

1331
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 6: a lot of money on this fight.

1332
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna take a bath safe to say so. Uh,

1333
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: the big question everyone's mind is not what's gonna happen.

1334
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 2: Crawford's probably gonna beat the fucking breaks off of them,

1335
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,320
Speaker 2: right all in all likelihood?

1336
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1337
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 2: Also, it's it's in his home, within his home state

1338
01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 2: in Nebraska. It'll be in an Omaha. So the question

1339
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,640
Speaker 2: is not so much that the question is to what

1340
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: extent do you Dan have confidence that this goes as

1341
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 2: it's more or less supposed to. There's no Shenanigans or whatever.

1342
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:58,439
Speaker 2: Does this, in your mind ultimately lead to a fight

1343
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 2: with Spence or is that just as uncertain as ever.

1344
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 4: I think it's just as certain as ever.

1345
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 6: Sadly, I'm an optimist, especially in the boxing world. People

1346
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 6: say it's to a fault. I try to find the

1347
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 6: positive in the boxing world, which is not easy to do.

1348
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 6: I was pretty confident that Spence Crawford was going to

1349
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 6: happen in November. It was also confident that was going

1350
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 6: to happen in februarh. I'm sure you heard from the

1351
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 6: same people.

1352
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 4: That I did. I just don't know anymore. I think

1353
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 4: Crawford is such a wildcard.

1354
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 6: Going back to his top rank days, I heard things

1355
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 6: very difficult to deal with, you know, some of the

1356
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 6: things he tweets, like business wise, like when he went

1357
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 6: on Instagram Live, like he was all over the place

1358
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 6: hedge money, like unspecified hedge money, and he's just has

1359
01:07:45,600 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 6: not made a lot of wise business choices in his life.

1360
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 4: In fighting life, he's made a lot of money.

1361
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1362
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 6: Top Rank was giving him close to four or five

1363
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 6: million of fight and we've seen his resume. It's nothing

1364
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 6: it's not the greatest resume. I think Crawford's the wildcard.

1365
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 6: If Crawford wants the fight to happen, I think there's

1366
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 6: a way to make it happen.

1367
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 4: You know, Showtime. I'm not just saying this because I'm

1368
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: on a Showtime.

1369
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 6: Show, but they have a long history of making big fights,

1370
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 6: like making big pay per view fights.

1371
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: They know what.

1372
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 6: They're doing, so that side of the street is secure

1373
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:18,040
Speaker 6: and ready to put this fight on.

1374
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 4: It's Crawford that's the wild card in this.

1375
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 2: Do you think he's pound for pound best? Because they

1376
01:08:23,320 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, like, this is the thing that always

1377
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: bothers me. It's like, it's obviously if you watch him, right, obviously,

1378
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,839
Speaker 2: if you watch him, his talent jumps off this fucking screen.

1379
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he is so gifted, he is so exceptional.

1380
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: But to your point of late, not so much in

1381
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 2: the previous weight class, but in this one, the resume

1382
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 2: has been thin, and he's getting a little bit older.

1383
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 2: What is the case for him to actually be the

1384
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: pound for pound number one fighter in the world.

1385
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 6: I tend to not do pound for pound lists because

1386
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 6: they have gotten so out of control.

1387
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 4: Is it a popularity contest?

1388
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:53,080
Speaker 2: Is it.

1389
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 4: What is it if you've done for me lately? Is

1390
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 4: it resume? Is it skills?

1391
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 6: I think the way it was intended originally was, you know,

1392
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 6: can I fly with beat a heavyweight just based off

1393
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 6: of pure skill? So it gets there beginning kind of ridiculous.

1394
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 6: I do think he is in the top five anyway

1395
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 6: you want to cut it. I think him Usik Spence

1396
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 6: in a way, I Fury just outside of it.

1397
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:16,839
Speaker 4: The probably missing some Canelo.

1398
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 6: I think if you're in that top five, then you're

1399
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 6: a damn good fighter. The thing with Crawford is his

1400
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 6: resimeent Like like you said, his best win is at

1401
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:28,320
Speaker 6: one forty seven is arguably Sean Porter and Truan Porter

1402
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 6: is a damn good fighter. But Trump Porter also retired

1403
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:33,720
Speaker 6: immediately after the fight. His own father threw him under

1404
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 6: the bus and said that he didn't train hard for

1405
01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 6: this fight. You know, Crawford has shown a few cracks

1406
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 6: in the armor, especially on defense getting up there is

1407
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 6: thirty five years old, but he's still damn good. Like

1408
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 6: you said, he ranks third in power connect grate forty

1409
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,799
Speaker 6: seven percent. That's only point five away from being the

1410
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 6: best power puncher in all of boxing. He only gets

1411
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 6: hit with seven point five punches per round. But the

1412
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:58,919
Speaker 6: caveat in all these numbers is the resume. So obviously

1413
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:01,679
Speaker 6: Spence would be the the best opponent he's ever fought,

1414
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 6: and quite frankly, I think he has to fight Spence.

1415
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 6: He needs that fight to solidify himself as an all

1416
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 6: time great in his mind. He has already said that

1417
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 6: my legacy is set. I'm happy with my legacy, and

1418
01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 6: that is pissed off fans too. I think there's a

1419
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 6: lot more that he can do, even when he's thirty five.

1420
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 4: In the next two to three years.

1421
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 6: Number one would be fighting Spence, and I think a

1422
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:23,599
Speaker 6: lot of people would edge him to beat Spence.

1423
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: All right, do you have any strong thoughts about the

1424
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 2: Comaine on this card? Arnold's guy taken on Eduardo bayaz Uh.

1425
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 6: The only strong thoughts I have on the Comaine is

1426
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,800
Speaker 6: Chris Cyborg boxing your world.

1427
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 2: Cyborg is dude? Is you know what's funny about this

1428
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: is like in the NME world, no one's really talking

1429
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 2: about this. I don't know why, but Chris Cyborg is

1430
01:10:43,680 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 2: fighting Gabby Holloway. Cyborg a a just a meager minus

1431
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:50,360
Speaker 2: five thousand favorite.

1432
01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, not a lot.

1433
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,560
Speaker 6: Of value on this card, Luke, unless you want to

1434
01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:56,759
Speaker 6: launder some money and not a lot of value.

1435
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 4: But my co host Chris Algerry, he he sparred Or.

1436
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 6: I've seen Cyborg spar down in South Florida and says

1437
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:08,760
Speaker 6: that she's a hits like a mule. I mean, there

1438
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 6: was rumors of her potentially fighting Katie Taylor in Ireland.

1439
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,080
Speaker 4: I don't know where that can be. I'm a trigat,

1440
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:16,240
Speaker 4: but I love women's boxing.

1441
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 6: But that's the only thing that jumped off the page

1442
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 6: at me when I took a look at the fight guard.

1443
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, all right, So let's get to the

1444
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 2: other one. Now, this is a legitimate fight. Tayo Femal

1445
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 2: Lopez Junior is back, ladies and gentlemen. This of course,

1446
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 2: we'll be on ESPN Plus not b LK Prime, So

1447
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 2: if you're an ESPN Plus subscriber for UFC for any

1448
01:11:36,000 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: other reasons, you can watch this one. Taking on Sandor Martine. Okay, Dan,

1449
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,799
Speaker 2: give us the breakdown here. Our audience is pretty familiar

1450
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: with Tayo Femal Lopez, but they don't know a lot

1451
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: about Sandor. What can you tell us Sandor is a spoiler?

1452
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 6: He is a boxer puncher. He beat Mikey Garcia. And look,

1453
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 6: you know this in fighting, when a fighter, you know,

1454
01:11:57,800 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 6: takes a long lay off, a fighter's talking about retire

1455
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,120
Speaker 6: iron and never a good thing, you know, the old adage.

1456
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 6: Like he had one foot out the door, Mikey Garcia

1457
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 6: had nine toes out the door, and Sandor Martin delivered

1458
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 6: that the final blow and Mikey Garcia retired right after

1459
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:14,080
Speaker 6: the fight. But he did beat Mikey Garcia. That's a

1460
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,720
Speaker 6: huge win for Sander Martin. I spoke to him this

1461
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 6: earlier this week at the press conference for this fight,

1462
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 6: and he seems very confident because he's taking the fight

1463
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:23,920
Speaker 6: on short notice.

1464
01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 4: He's got nothing to lose.

1465
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 6: Never been to New York City as a dream of

1466
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:30,640
Speaker 6: his to fight at Madison Square Garden. But you know

1467
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,160
Speaker 6: that's all the stuff like outside, the mental stuff inside

1468
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 6: the ring. He's gonna try to slow down the fight

1469
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:38,719
Speaker 6: to a crawl against Mikey Garcia. He only threw twenty

1470
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 6: three punches around astronomically.

1471
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 4: Low, but he thought it at his pace. That's the pace.

1472
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 6: He wants to fight to your femo at and to

1473
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 6: your female On the other end, I know we'll get

1474
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 6: to him in a second. Can be frustrated inside of

1475
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 6: the ring. He is a knockout puncher, He's an entertainer.

1476
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 6: He wants to go for knockouts. He might be chasing

1477
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 6: around Sander Martin for the first half of this fight.

1478
01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 4: I'm not saying Martin's.

1479
01:12:57,479 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 6: Gonna win, but I think he's gonna give to your

1480
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 6: female some solid rounds at one forty.

1481
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: All right, So with Lopez, let's talk about him for

1482
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,720
Speaker 2: just a second. Here loses to Cambos's junior in a

1483
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 2: huge shocker. We were all watching that live. We couldn't

1484
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 2: believe what we were looking at. But then again we

1485
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 2: could because Lopez is kind of a mess at times.

1486
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 2: At times, then he comes back against Pedro Kampa and

1487
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,600
Speaker 2: he looks pretty good. So here's what I want you

1488
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,360
Speaker 2: to answer for me. One, why in your mind did

1489
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,719
Speaker 2: he lose to camboss who then got dummied by Haini.

1490
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:29,760
Speaker 2: And Two in your mind how good did he look

1491
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,400
Speaker 2: in his return against Kampa?

1492
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 6: But Tier Female lost to Cambosos because he had literally

1493
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 6: the worst game plan I've ever seen in a boxing ring.

1494
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:43,160
Speaker 6: He had no plan A, he had absolutely no plan B.

1495
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 6: He went in there to knock his head off, and

1496
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 6: that played right into Camboso's hands. That's what happened inside

1497
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 6: the He's knocked down in the first round and then

1498
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 6: was playing catch up for the rest of the fight,

1499
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 6: and the ultimately lost in one of the biggest upsets

1500
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,680
Speaker 6: of last year. What happened outside of the ring, I

1501
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 6: think is a little more telling, and probably what that

1502
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 6: happened outside the ring leads into what happened inside of

1503
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 6: the ring.

1504
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,960
Speaker 4: His personal life is really spiraled out of control.

1505
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 6: Sadly, Ta Female is someone that I got to know

1506
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 6: personally when he first came burst onto the scene, considering

1507
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 6: him a friend. You know, things happened with his family.

1508
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 6: I heard about things in his training camp, cutting corners.

1509
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 6: Didn't have the best corner in there besides his dad.

1510
01:14:23,080 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 6: His dad wasn't really giving good instructions.

1511
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 4: It was a disaster. It was just a disaster all around.

1512
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 6: I also do think in a weird way, that was

1513
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 6: very humbling for him because he just beat Lomachenko on

1514
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 6: top of the world, bud Light promotions, this, that and

1515
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 6: the other, all this money, and then it comes crashing

1516
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 6: down and one minute he's the manded. The next day

1517
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 6: you know, he's you're kind of laughing at him because

1518
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 6: he thought afterwards that he won the fight.

1519
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 4: But against Campo, that was the second.

1520
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:50,960
Speaker 6: Part he it was a new weight class, and I

1521
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 6: think what he's learning that one forties that he doesn't

1522
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 6: have the same power that he did at one thirty five.

1523
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 4: At won thirty five, Ta Female has had such an.

1524
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,600
Speaker 6: Advantage over the rest of the field because he was

1525
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,400
Speaker 6: so powerful at one forty. We'll be sail against camp

1526
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 6: but he had to break him down. So I don't

1527
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:06,519
Speaker 6: know if that's really Tia Female's game in the long run.

1528
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,880
Speaker 6: It might work in this fight against Martin, but against

1529
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 6: you know, the Josh Taylors, against the REGIS programs, Devin Haney.

1530
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,320
Speaker 6: If he moves up to one forty, a ton of

1531
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 6: fighters moved up to one forty tank Eventually, I think

1532
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 6: we'll be there, Ryan Garcia, I don't know if ta

1533
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,840
Speaker 6: Fima has that one punch power at one forty more

1534
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 6: of a matriculation, and.

1535
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 4: I haven't really seen that facet of his game yet.

1536
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,320
Speaker 2: Do you think there's anything to the idea that, like

1537
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:32,840
Speaker 2: the Complify didn't give us a full sense of things,

1538
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 2: and that like over time he could settle more easily

1539
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,839
Speaker 2: into this weight class than some of your power concerns,

1540
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 2: not that they're wrong per se, but that he could

1541
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:40,800
Speaker 2: grow out of them.

1542
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, you know, he's still twenty three or

1543
01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 6: twenty four. You know, you know, I do believe you're

1544
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 6: born with power. He has a lot of it.

1545
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,640
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, there's always ways to work on it

1546
01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,439
Speaker 4: at one forty, but we'll see.

1547
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 6: That's the best part of the sport, you know, MMA,

1548
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 6: in bossings, it's going to play out inside of the ring.

1549
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 4: Sandar, the last fight with Kampa was his first at

1550
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: one forty. Was also his first in like.

1551
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 6: Fourteen or fifteen months, so it's really hard to judge

1552
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 6: him off that. I still think he found his rhythm

1553
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 6: like midway through the fight, and then he looked really sharp.

1554
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 6: I think with Martine we're gonna learn a lot about

1555
01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:12,120
Speaker 6: T Female one forty two because this guy's crafty southpaw.

1556
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 6: He's gonna go in there to spoils and go in

1557
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 6: there to muck it up. They're gonna go in there

1558
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 6: and move around, and like I said earlier, TI Female

1559
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 6: is he goes for knockouts. The first time I met him,

1560
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:24,639
Speaker 6: when he was you know thirteen and zero we heard

1561
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 6: about a little bit.

1562
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,360
Speaker 4: I'm on the scene. Was I come to entertain? And

1563
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,839
Speaker 4: how do you entertain in boxing?

1564
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: You don't.

1565
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,240
Speaker 6: It's not really entertaining for some to go to the

1566
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 6: distance and get your hand. Rais entertaining to deliver a

1567
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,920
Speaker 6: knockout punch on ESPN on Heinsman Night and do a

1568
01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 6: backflip after which he has done many times. So I'm

1569
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 6: interested to see how he deals with like Martin's movement.

1570
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 4: All right.

1571
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 2: Also on this card, the name that stands out to me,

1572
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,720
Speaker 2: and obviously if there's something else I'm missing by all means,

1573
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 2: let me know. But the name that I BC and

1574
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 2: I have talked about him on the show just a

1575
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: little bit. So I don't know how familiar our audience is,

1576
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,560
Speaker 2: but you know him quite well, or at least I

1577
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 2: should say the boxing audience is very familiar with him.

1578
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 2: All eyes are on him. Xander Zias sanders Aias has

1579
01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,240
Speaker 2: taken on Alexis Salazar. For the folks who don't know,

1580
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 2: tell him about Xander and why the boxing world is

1581
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: so high on him.

1582
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 4: This kid is the goods man top rank has one

1583
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:14,839
Speaker 4: of the best young.

1584
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,080
Speaker 6: Stables in all the boxing, and Xander Zayas is right

1585
01:17:20,120 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 6: at the top of it. For a while, Top rank

1586
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 6: was really pushing Edgar Berlanga as a New York guy.

1587
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:28,560
Speaker 4: It's more importantly as a Puerto Rican fighter in the

1588
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 4: New York market is huge.

1589
01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 6: Just look at Miguel Coto did at the Garden year

1590
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:35,400
Speaker 6: after year, especially on that June weekend, the night before

1591
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 6: the Puerto Rican Day. Breed Berlanga was supposed to be

1592
01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 6: that guy in ESPN was giving him a ton of

1593
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,559
Speaker 6: push and Top rank as well.

1594
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 4: Xanderzayas is that guy. He's twenty years old, He's a.

1595
01:17:46,040 --> 01:17:48,160
Speaker 6: One hundred and fifty four pounded with every punch in

1596
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,040
Speaker 6: the book, the timing, the power, charisma.

1597
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 2: You know.

1598
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,679
Speaker 4: I talked to Tim Bradley. Now we'll just got inducted

1599
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame.

1600
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,920
Speaker 6: A worse for top rank in ESPN, he is very

1601
01:17:58,040 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 6: high on Xandersaiya's I am too.

1602
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 4: This whole car, this undercard is really good. Zaias is one.

1603
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 6: Guy that the entire boxing world has already known about him.

1604
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,719
Speaker 6: He's only going to continue to get bigger and bigger.

1605
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:12,360
Speaker 2: What about that cole Man? Candidly, I don't know much

1606
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 2: about either of these guys, Jared Anderson and Jerry Forest,

1607
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,200
Speaker 2: any value to that or is that or is there

1608
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: a different thought you care more about.

1609
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,720
Speaker 4: It's a really good fight.

1610
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 6: Jared Anderson been talking about up becoming stars, heavyweight, twenty

1611
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 6: five years old, American. A lot of that right there

1612
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 6: is good and a lot of that there is unique

1613
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 6: because if you look around the heavyweight division right now,

1614
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 6: Luke Who's sick thirty six years old, Fury thirty three

1615
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,760
Speaker 6: years old, Wilder thirty seven, Joyce thirty seven, Joshua With

1616
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:43,559
Speaker 6: thirty seven. The youngest established heavyweight in boxing right now

1617
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 6: is Andy Ruiz and he's thirty three. So Jared Anderson

1618
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 6: had twenty five, has the goods, the power, that's athleticism,

1619
01:18:50,600 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 6: got a lot of charisma. His ring walks have become

1620
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 6: a thing now. One time he came out as a

1621
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 6: pimp doing a pimp walk. And he's really good, and

1622
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 6: he's young, and he's American, and I think that there's

1623
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 6: a lot going there. His opponent, Jerry Forrest, is upset

1624
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 6: minded type of guy. He's been in there tough, He's fought.

1625
01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,800
Speaker 6: He fought to a draw with Zang, he fought to

1626
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 6: a draw with Michael Hunter. He went the distance with

1627
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:15,800
Speaker 6: Kruber pool Off, went the distance with Carlos to come

1628
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:19,639
Speaker 6: split decision. Lost that Jermaine Franklin. Jermaine Franklin just nearly

1629
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 6: beat Dillian White last month. If Anderson can knock out

1630
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 6: Jerry Forrest, and I think the hype train is only

1631
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 6: gonna get bigger.

1632
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 2: I will tell you what about Dubois. When you say

1633
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 2: established heavyweights, are you excluding Dubois?

1634
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 6: When you say no, that's a good call by you.

1635
01:19:34,160 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 6: I would I was pretty young. He fought last week

1636
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 6: and you see what happened there.

1637
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,880
Speaker 2: He got knocked down, he almost got fucked over, or

1638
01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 2: he almost messed up, but he did he persevered. He persevered.

1639
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,760
Speaker 4: No, yeah, he's good. He's definitely good. He lost the

1640
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 4: joys and that shouldn't really matter in the grand scheme

1641
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 4: of things.

1642
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 6: He should get right back on it. That fight was

1643
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,840
Speaker 6: bizarre that one of the rounds ended with ten seconds left.

1644
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 6: The judge, the referee waved off the fight.

1645
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,960
Speaker 4: At the bell. That fight was all over the place.

1646
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:01,040
Speaker 4: But I do like Danye Lubaugh.

1647
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 6: I would add him on the short list of young

1648
01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 6: under thirty heavyweights. Jared Anderson, du Bois and jalaloff this

1649
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 6: six foot eight Uzbek guy who's knocking everyone out, who

1650
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 6: won Olympic gold at the last Olympics.

1651
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,520
Speaker 2: BC loves him, he tells me about.

1652
01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 4: BC loves him from jal I'm not surprised by that.

1653
01:20:18,200 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really does. It's funny. All right, Well, just

1654
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:22,040
Speaker 2: a few minutes we have remaining. I was actually at

1655
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 2: the Tank Davis Hector Luis Garcia presser here in my

1656
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 2: hometown in DC, Yeah, Monday, I think. Let me ask you,

1657
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,679
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, Like, obviously most people expect Tank

1658
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,679
Speaker 2: to win, but it's dude, this is not a tune

1659
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 2: up fight. Man. I'm not saying, like Hector Luis Garcia

1660
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: is the toughest guy in the world, but he's an Olympian.

1661
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: He beat the shit at a Chris Colbert. Like he's undefeated.

1662
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: He's coming up a weight class, so there's a little

1663
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: bit of that. But like, he didn't look substantially different

1664
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 2: in size. In fact, he had a bigger frame than Tank.

1665
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 2: What do you make of this challenge for Tank on

1666
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: January seventh?

1667
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,040
Speaker 4: This is is pretty nuts to me. I was not

1668
01:20:56,240 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 4: expecting Hector Lopez to get that. Excuse me, Hitter Garcia to.

1669
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,439
Speaker 6: Get this assignment, especially with Ryan Garcia fight you know,

1670
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:10,280
Speaker 6: penciled in for April, especially with some of the criticism

1671
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 6: that Tank gets for his resume.

1672
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 4: I think this is the first time it's ironic.

1673
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 6: I think the first time that fans would have been

1674
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 6: okay with a lighter touch for Travata Davis.

1675
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 4: Now I heard fans saying this is this is too

1676
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 4: much for Tank. That's funny to me like that to

1677
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 4: see how quickly the fans will, well, we'll switch on that.

1678
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 4: This guy's good man. This guy hitter Garcia, like you said,

1679
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 4: beat Chris Colbert. He had another win too.

1680
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 6: I don't know why it's slipped in my mind, but

1681
01:21:34,439 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 6: this guy is a champion at his weight lass. He

1682
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 6: is moving up, but you saw in person there he

1683
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,760
Speaker 6: is the bigger man on fight night. But Tank has

1684
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 6: no issues with bigger guys. Look what he did in

1685
01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:48,640
Speaker 6: that fight when he moved up to one to beat Barrios.

1686
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,120
Speaker 6: I ultimately think Tank's gonna win. I think you would

1687
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:53,640
Speaker 6: agree with that, but this will get him ready for

1688
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 6: Ryan Garcia.

1689
01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:55,679
Speaker 4: This is a big fight.

1690
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:57,560
Speaker 6: It's a showtime pay per view, so you got to

1691
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 6: come with a good opponent and you know how off

1692
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 6: the tank.

1693
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 4: I think he's rewriting a lot of narratives in his career.

1694
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 2: All right, we'll let you go, but before we do again,

1695
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 2: Inside Boxing Live, it's you and Chris Aljery. It's on

1696
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 2: John Boy Media. How can folks watch it if they're

1697
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 2: interested to get more?

1698
01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can watch over on YouTube a Inside Boxing

1699
01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 6: Live YouTube page. You can listen, of course, the podcast

1700
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 6: version on every single way you get podcasts these days.

1701
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,599
Speaker 6: We just did our first ever John Boy Media boxing

1702
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:31,839
Speaker 6: combine this week with pitting four I would say, average

1703
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 6: joes that work here, going through all the riggers of

1704
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,799
Speaker 6: a boxing workout, and then one lucky winner or unlucky

1705
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:42,160
Speaker 6: winner went on to fight Chris Aljery in the ring

1706
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 6: for three minutes.

1707
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:46,080
Speaker 2: Oh god, it was a bloodbast Look was there a

1708
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: three knockdown role? Because I don't know if you're gonna

1709
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 2: make it to the end of the round without that.

1710
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to tune in and watch. Let me

1711
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 4: put that out.

1712
01:22:52,280 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 6: It was I work with a lot of a lot

1713
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,679
Speaker 6: of my chorus don't really know what much about boxing,

1714
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 6: and I understand that we stayed each a fight and

1715
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 6: they were blown away by it, and I think we

1716
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 6: made some boxing fans in the process. But yeah, you're

1717
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 6: gonna want to tune into that Inside Boxing Live. Hey,

1718
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 6: I'm talking about your guys.

1719
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 4: Success. Man, you guys are crushing it.

1720
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:15,320
Speaker 6: Brian Campbell, I think before I hit it Algeria as

1721
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 6: my permanent co host. Brian Campbell I think has appeared

1722
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,160
Speaker 6: on Inside Boxing Live thirteen or fourteen times.

1723
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 4: He's got a gold jacket. So I love BC as

1724
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,640
Speaker 4: much as I like to rip on. You guys are

1725
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 4: crushing it, continued success.

1726
01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 2: Hey, who's in better shape? BC or Chris Algery? I

1727
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: can't tell.

1728
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: Let me think I'm going it's tough. I'm gonna go

1729
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 4: with BC. I think BC is taking that gas station

1730
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 4: sushi out of his diet. He's on a lot of vacations,

1731
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:48,439
Speaker 4: his mind is at ease. Yeah, I'll go with BC.

1732
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a fair call. Dan, I'm a

1733
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,560
Speaker 2: big fan. I'm a big fan of the show. I

1734
01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 2: watch it all the time. I really do love having

1735
01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:58,120
Speaker 2: y'all on here, enjoy the fights this weekend, and I

1736
01:23:58,160 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 2: look forward to seeing what you and Chris have to

1737
01:23:59,360 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 2: say about it.

1738
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 4: All right, thanks man, I appreciate the invite. On the show.

1739
01:24:03,240 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 2: There he is Dan Canobio, and of course for folks

1740
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,240
Speaker 2: who want more from him beyond just Inside Boxing Live,

1741
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: how about CompuBox. CompuBox that's the that's the brains of

1742
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,680
Speaker 2: the operation right there. All right, let's reset here for

1743
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 2: just a second. So we've talked about UFC, We've gotten

1744
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: you ready for the boxing over the weekend. We got

1745
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 2: to finish with what we had on Bellator. When I

1746
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: was talking about it last, we were talking about the

1747
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 2: stats and Sabatelo, of course the main event. Just to

1748
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 2: reset one more time, Statts a minus one forty, Sabatello

1749
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:34,280
Speaker 2: a plus one twenty and of course, as we indicated before,

1750
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 2: Sabatelo a dynamic wrestler who can shoot from four distances

1751
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,200
Speaker 2: even if it's not advisable. Blah blah blah. But the

1752
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:43,320
Speaker 2: question was about Statts and Kenny defend it. This is

1753
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,040
Speaker 2: a tough one. Sabatello had really good ground to pound

1754
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 2: against Jordello Lugo, but Lugo didn't have the same kind

1755
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 2: of ground game and athleticism frankly, that Statts did. And

1756
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,400
Speaker 2: so Sabatelo, I think, is gonna have to show us

1757
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,920
Speaker 2: something new. I do believe that. I think his wrestling

1758
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 2: and pure wrestler terms, I do think he's better than Statts,

1759
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 2: but our pure wrestling terms good enough against an opponent

1760
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:11,679
Speaker 2: this experienced, this well rounded, who also is a wrestling threat.

1761
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 2: It's a tough one. It's a tough one. We're gonna

1762
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: have to see your co main event, a rematch for

1763
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: the women's flyweight title. Liz Carmush sitting at plus one

1764
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,200
Speaker 2: forty five Juliana Velaskaez at a minus one seventy. What

1765
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 2: is this fight hinge on?

1766
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 3: For me?

1767
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 2: Again? I went back and I watched their first fight,

1768
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 2: and what did you notice? Velasquez was, to me a

1769
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: little bit timid. I think you're gonna see her change

1770
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 2: that up a little bit, not significantly. I don't think

1771
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 2: she's gonna come out storming, but I don't think she's

1772
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:39,719
Speaker 2: gonna be quiet on the back foot as she was before.

1773
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna see her. The question for Velaskaz

1774
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 2: is a lot. I think a lot of it's gonna

1775
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 2: come down to footwork and how she positions herself. That's

1776
01:25:46,120 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 2: gonna be a big part of it. The other one

1777
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:49,320
Speaker 2: here is and you know this, if you saw the

1778
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 2: first fight takedowns. Carmush's takedowns were a big problem for Velaskaz.

1779
01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 2: She didn't have like I was amazed at how much

1780
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: her takedown defense just kind of crumbled once Liz her

1781
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 2: hands on her. There didn't seem to be as much

1782
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: resistance as I thought there would be. And again, you

1783
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: heard Carmush tell me NBC like Velaskas didn't really use

1784
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 2: much of her judo. If you watched the first fight,

1785
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 2: there's like one time that's not true, but there's a

1786
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: lot most of the time that was very true. I

1787
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 2: wonder about that. However, Velaskaz is indicated is favorite. What

1788
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 2: was the one thing I took away from the first fight. One,

1789
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:25,120
Speaker 2: I think that some of the takedown issues could be

1790
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:27,679
Speaker 2: fixed with footwork and some other choices that she makes.

1791
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: But two, and this is the big one. As the

1792
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 2: fight was wearing on, I thought Velaskeez was taking control.

1793
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 2: I thought she was taking control behind her jab. I

1794
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: thought she was taking control behind her one. Two at distance,

1795
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,800
Speaker 2: and I didn't see Carmush have a real big answer

1796
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 2: for it. This is going to be a function of

1797
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 2: space and who defines the terms of it. If it's

1798
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:54,720
Speaker 2: a case where they're close together. Carmush probably can win

1799
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,599
Speaker 2: this one, probably will win this one, frankly, if it's

1800
01:26:57,960 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 2: space further apart and Velaska is cutting angles punching behind

1801
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,200
Speaker 2: the jab, even if she's moving backwards, although I do

1802
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 2: think moving forwards will be more beneficial for her long term.

1803
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 2: In that fight, I think she'll win. I just don't

1804
01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: see that necessarily changing a whole lot from that fight

1805
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 2: to this one. The question is will she get it done?

1806
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,439
Speaker 2: I tend to think she probably will. I will side again.

1807
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 2: These odds are close plus one forty five to minus

1808
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,400
Speaker 2: one seven excuse me, yes, plus one forty five to

1809
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: minus one seventy. That's you know, we're not talking about

1810
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 2: a major difference here. You know, we're not talking about

1811
01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:33,400
Speaker 2: a huge gap in skill or something like that. Our

1812
01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: huge gap in what the other one poses as a threat. Anyway,

1813
01:27:37,680 --> 01:27:41,080
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna side with Velaskaz because just the way

1814
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 2: the first fight went. But if you know, if you

1815
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,760
Speaker 2: see Carmush able to get into like any kind of

1816
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:50,880
Speaker 2: body lock or underhook position, I think Velaskaz is going

1817
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 2: to be in trouble. I was shocked at how easily

1818
01:27:54,000 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 2: Carmush was able to get her to the ground could

1819
01:27:56,320 --> 01:27:58,679
Speaker 2: be a big problem for her. We'll see the other

1820
01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: side of the band some weight brackets, so we're gonna

1821
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 2: see who the other finalist is. Between Stats and Sabatelo,

1822
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 2: that's one finalist, right, and then on the other side

1823
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 2: it's Mix and maccamed Maga Madoff. Now this is a

1824
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 2: tough one. This is a really tough one. Listen to

1825
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:18,160
Speaker 2: these odds. PATCHI Mix plus one oh five, Mega Madeoff

1826
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: minus one twenty five and ever so slight favorite and

1827
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 2: ever so slight Patchi Mix. I said this on Wednesday,

1828
01:28:25,240 --> 01:28:28,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna repeat it again today. Enormous for the weight class.

1829
01:28:28,960 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: I could not believe he was a bantamweight. I've seen

1830
01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,840
Speaker 2: many bantam weights in person. He might be in terms

1831
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,280
Speaker 2: of frame, the biggest one. And if you go back

1832
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 2: and look at their way in photos or weigh in video,

1833
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 2: you'll see he towers to an extent. Anyway, uh over,

1834
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,760
Speaker 2: Maga Madeoff And here you're seeing these videos now of

1835
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 2: PATCHI Mix against Horagucci. See this is the problem with

1836
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 2: looking at this fight and being like, oh, well, Maga

1837
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 2: Madoff is more well rounded. Yeah he is. Mecha Matawoff

1838
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 2: is more well rounded. Dude, Kyoji Horragucci was a belator champion,

1839
01:29:00,320 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 2: a rizing champion, one of the best bantamweights on Earth,

1840
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 2: and he couldn't do shit about the backpacking, back taking

1841
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:14,240
Speaker 2: ability of PATCHI Mix. It was overwhelming for him, and

1842
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 2: I didn't see that coming either. I was shocked at

1843
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 2: how good it was. Dude. He creates just a little

1844
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:24,599
Speaker 2: bit of back exposure and it's it's curtains for you. Now.

1845
01:29:24,640 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: He may not get the submission, but you're not getting

1846
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 2: back up. You're not a very dedicated, good, solid back

1847
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: attacker in PATCHI Mix, and a guy like Mega Madov,

1848
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:41,000
Speaker 2: to me, is very talented and again clearly more well rounded.

1849
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:46,839
Speaker 2: Clearly he could just do more things. Can he really

1850
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: stop the back attacks and the forward pressure of a

1851
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:55,080
Speaker 2: guy like PATCHI Mix enough? I don't know. The oddsmakers

1852
01:29:55,160 --> 01:29:57,559
Speaker 2: think that it's a slight lean towards Mega Madoff, which

1853
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:01,040
Speaker 2: I understand I do, but Patchi has been the guy

1854
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 2: in this tournament. Everyone's like, Oh, he's good, but he's

1855
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:07,519
Speaker 2: not gonna get past Koji Horgucci. Oh he's good, but

1856
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 2: he can't do x or Y. I think that's a

1857
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 2: little foolish. I really don't trust that analysis. I don't

1858
01:30:14,040 --> 01:30:16,920
Speaker 2: agree with it at all. I don't know, man, Patchi

1859
01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 2: Mix is a guy where you know, it's like, well,

1860
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:21,200
Speaker 2: he might be a one trick pony is a little

1861
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,280
Speaker 2: bit dismissive, but he certainly got one part of his

1862
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 2: game that clearly outshadows the other ones, even the other

1863
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 2: ones are pretty good, and that's a very very important

1864
01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:34,240
Speaker 2: part of the game too. I don't know. I might

1865
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,479
Speaker 2: like Patchi Mix's chances here. It's hard to say, man,

1866
01:30:36,479 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 2: A lot of these are coin flip ish, but I

1867
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 2: might go with him. And so if you actually get

1868
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 2: like a Stats or a Sabotello, A let's think about that.

1869
01:30:45,400 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 2: If you got Mix, well, first of all, if you've

1870
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 2: got Stotts versus magamettow you get a rematch, you got

1871
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 2: Statts versus Mix, that's a tough fight for Mix as well,

1872
01:30:55,240 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 2: but Stotts has it's a tough fight for Mix as well.

1873
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,440
Speaker 2: But again, if he can do that to Kyojo Horgucci,

1874
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 2: what bantamweight could he not do it too? There's really

1875
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 2: the question you have to ask yourself, right, That's sort

1876
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: of where I'm at on this one. It's the first

1877
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: thing I'd say, if you got Mega Metto versus Sabatello,

1878
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 2: that's an interesting one, but we saw stats out wrestle Magamettov,

1879
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 2: so Sabatello might be able to do that, especially if

1880
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: he got past Statts. Saba Tello versus mix is the

1881
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 2: really interesting one because you saw Ego Leandre. Ego gets

1882
01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:27,759
Speaker 2: Sabatello's back and write it out for a long period

1883
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 2: of time as well, and I think that second round

1884
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: something like that, So that could be a really interesting one.

1885
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 2: In either case. You just I think all roads for

1886
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 2: PATCHI mixed to victory lead through the back again. Doesn't

1887
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: have to have it every single round for four minutes.

1888
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 2: It's not what I'm saying, but just what he can

1889
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,680
Speaker 2: do with it, and how how long he can keep it,

1890
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 2: and how just easy it is for him to find it.

1891
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 2: It just makes him a really, really tough customer. Also

1892
01:31:54,439 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 2: on this card, as I mentioned, Dalton Rostaf you've never

1893
01:31:56,360 --> 01:31:57,680
Speaker 2: seen him, the guy that looks like he's built like

1894
01:31:57,720 --> 01:32:00,880
Speaker 2: a Greek god. Taken on Anthony Adams. These kill Holts

1895
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,840
Speaker 2: minus one fifty five taken on Ilara Joannet plus one

1896
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 2: thirty five kill Holtz. To me, I think was a

1897
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: member of the Dutch National Judo Team. Great kickboxer, like

1898
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:12,360
Speaker 2: legitimately great kickboxer, but tends to be a little bit

1899
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,759
Speaker 2: error prone, soting to pay attention to. She is the favorite,

1900
01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:18,840
Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. She is the favorite against Joan

1901
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: and I do think is better than Joan And I

1902
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:25,960
Speaker 2: think has fought and defeated in general in general better opposition.

1903
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:30,400
Speaker 2: But that's a very close fight as well. Cody law

1904
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 2: is on this card at minus two twenty five taken

1905
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 2: on Chris LENCIONI this is the big one as well.

1906
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:39,120
Speaker 2: I talked about it with Big John on Wednesday. Kyle Crutchmer,

1907
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,920
Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, two time Big twelve champion, two time All

1908
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 2: American minus two thirty taken on Jialil Willis and plus

1909
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: one thirty five d Jalil Willis. I cannot overstate this.

1910
01:32:48,640 --> 01:32:51,080
Speaker 2: He came off the regional scene with a ton of buzz.

1911
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 2: It was kind of like a big get for him

1912
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,600
Speaker 2: to end up in Bellator and not go on like

1913
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:57,240
Speaker 2: to the UFC or something like that, and has just

1914
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: not exactly looked the way I think a lot of

1915
01:33:00,200 --> 01:33:02,840
Speaker 2: thought he would did early on, but then the last

1916
01:33:02,840 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 2: two fights have just been Kyle Krutchmer is a big

1917
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 2: strong kid. That is a fight he should not lose,

1918
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:11,200
Speaker 2: and if he does win it some real questions for

1919
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:15,080
Speaker 2: the future of joelil Willis Kai Kamaka the Third, a

1920
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:17,479
Speaker 2: extreme coutre guy, big Eric Nixon guy. By the way,

1921
01:33:17,479 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 2: he shouts to Eric Nixick. He ran into him in

1922
01:33:19,040 --> 01:33:22,720
Speaker 2: the hotel lobby in Connecticut when we were there on Wednesday.

1923
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,240
Speaker 2: At minus two sixty five. He's taken on Kevin Boehm,

1924
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 2: and then there's a few pat Downey minus fifteen hundred

1925
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 2: taking on Christian Echols at plus nine hundred. All right,

1926
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,280
Speaker 2: we end the show today with just a little bit

1927
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,000
Speaker 2: of talk about Patty Pimblet. He had a huge dust

1928
01:33:40,120 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 2: up with Ariel Holwani, who, by the way, congratulations to him.

1929
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 2: He wins joural listen to the year award. I think

1930
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 2: thirteen years in a row. Something absurd. I spoke a

1931
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,559
Speaker 2: lot about this on my live chat yesterday, but there's

1932
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 2: been a little bit of an update to it. Our

1933
01:33:54,200 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: own Shaquille Massori actually spoke to Patty Pimblet about in

1934
01:33:58,600 --> 01:34:01,720
Speaker 2: particular the aerial beef after Ariel said, excuse me, after

1935
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:06,040
Speaker 2: Patty said what he said, and from Ariel's response So

1936
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,639
Speaker 2: this is Patty talking to Shaq after hearing what Ariol

1937
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 2: had to say in response to Patty, I want to

1938
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 2: react to it. Let's see what Patty had to say.

1939
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:16,840
Speaker 2: We had a podcast with Dana White.

1940
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 6: I think the internet kind of blew up about it

1941
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 6: when you were saying the UFC fighters should be compensated.

1942
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 2: For their time.

1943
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 5: Now, what I was saying was, yes, Ariel wanted me

1944
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 5: to not do a paid gig, to do something for

1945
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 5: free with him, and somehow people are defended him sympathetic,

1946
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 5: simple as I don't need to talk about it anymore

1947
01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 5: because that's just a fact. He's come out with his

1948
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 5: false narrative and made a big said it didn't bother them,

1949
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 5: but has done an hour and fifteen minute video about it.

1950
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 5: So you know, we know it's bothered him. He's had

1951
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 5: to lie and make himself look good reading our private messages.

1952
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:55,439
Speaker 5: But we'll addressed this after the fight made manager don't

1953
01:34:55,520 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 5: use Ruddy. We've got all the stuff there and he's

1954
01:34:58,680 --> 01:34:59,719
Speaker 5: going to look like an idiot.

1955
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so you will address the voice memo that he

1956
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:03,920
Speaker 2: put out after the fight.

1957
01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, the voice memo where they said do you want

1958
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:09,000
Speaker 5: to meet up didn't once mention an interview said that

1959
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 5: you want to meet up so like have a drink

1960
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,240
Speaker 5: or a storm zu wheat as like a friend, but

1961
01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,240
Speaker 5: you know either he obviously never shaw me as a friend.

1962
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 5: Where I showed him as a friend, He only ever

1963
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 5: show me as pound signs and dollar signs. I was

1964
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 5: always just a commodity to him.

1965
01:35:29,240 --> 01:35:30,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about that. I

1966
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,160
Speaker 2: would say that does if what he's saying is true there,

1967
01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:36,760
Speaker 2: and again I don't. I have no way of knowing

1968
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:37,800
Speaker 2: one way or the other. I heard some of the

1969
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 2: stuff that was played, but you know, I've not heard

1970
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,800
Speaker 2: his long term presentation of the dispute. What I would

1971
01:35:43,840 --> 01:35:47,040
Speaker 2: say is on backing up a step. He's not saying

1972
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:51,000
Speaker 2: he wanted Ariel according to this. According to this, he's

1973
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 2: not saying he wanted Ariel to pay him. He's saying

1974
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:56,639
Speaker 2: Ariel wanted him to do a free interview, so to speak,

1975
01:35:57,200 --> 01:35:59,280
Speaker 2: versus a paid gig, not that he wanted Ariel to

1976
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:02,280
Speaker 2: match them or maybe I'm not sure what Graham Boyle

1977
01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 2: and his manager said how it all went down. I

1978
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:07,679
Speaker 2: can't remember the full details, but that's his claim here. Again,

1979
01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 2: I guess we'll see what information he has. Folks have

1980
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 2: asked like should you pay for an interview? Again, it

1981
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 2: does happen in the industry, especially with content creators. And

1982
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I'm not using the word that Patty used in the

1983
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:22,520
Speaker 2: pejorative sense. What I mean to say is like, there

1984
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:24,759
Speaker 2: are folks in the media space who are not actually

1985
01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 2: interested in journalism per se, but what they do looks

1986
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot like it, except it's looser, it's friendlier, it's

1987
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 2: got some conflict of interest. I think a lot of

1988
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 2: what we do is a little bit more in line

1989
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 2: with that. Quite frankly, I don't know how BC feels

1990
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: about that necessarily, but and they don't necessarily abide by

1991
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 2: the same kind of rules, and so they don't mind

1992
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 2: paying for guests to come on. And it can be

1993
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 2: a thing, especially by the way in the UK, it's

1994
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,760
Speaker 2: quite common. Actually, it is a thing that they do

1995
01:36:49,320 --> 01:36:51,519
Speaker 2: in pure journalistic standards. It's not a thing you would

1996
01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,120
Speaker 2: never do. You would never do that by if you're

1997
01:36:54,640 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: under the rubric of pure journalism, because it would corrupt

1998
01:36:57,280 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 2: the relationship. It turns it into a transactional one in

1999
01:37:00,240 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 2: some sense, it kind of already is, but it makes

2000
01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 2: it an explicit end and by definition that only thing,

2001
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:07,760
Speaker 2: and it can corrupt the information that you get. It's

2002
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:09,920
Speaker 2: just you can get a lot of unreliable things that

2003
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 2: happen when you begin to pay for it in a

2004
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 2: lot of ways. So that would be the argument there

2005
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,320
Speaker 2: in terms of everything else about it. Again, mostly what

2006
01:37:17,400 --> 01:37:19,320
Speaker 2: I had to say I said on the live chat,

2007
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,160
Speaker 2: but I think I would I would just remind folks

2008
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 2: of a couple of things here. One, this is a

2009
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 2: sort of dispute between these guys, and there's a lot

2010
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,960
Speaker 2: of details that neither of us know, and I can't

2011
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:29,639
Speaker 2: speak on that. I will say on the aerial side

2012
01:37:29,640 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 2: of things, I'm like a guy who's actually worked with Ariel,

2013
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like, I'm not gonna say

2014
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 2: I know him better than anybody else because that's not

2015
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:38,479
Speaker 2: true at all. You know, we don't talk regularly anything.

2016
01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:40,639
Speaker 2: I saw him in Phoenix and we spoke briefly there,

2017
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 2: and he actually joined us on the showtime way in

2018
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:46,680
Speaker 2: feed for this was the h Jake paulse Anderson Silver Fight.

2019
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:50,000
Speaker 2: So I saw him recently. We talked and obviously, you know,

2020
01:37:50,080 --> 01:37:52,360
Speaker 2: he and I had sort of a public well, we

2021
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:54,160
Speaker 2: didn't really have a dispute. But we had a private

2022
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:56,240
Speaker 2: dispute that the public knew about. But we have since

2023
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,439
Speaker 2: talked about it, and there's that, and so that's no

2024
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,280
Speaker 2: longer the defining nature of our relationship. But I worked

2025
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,720
Speaker 2: with the guy for a long time. I work with

2026
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:06,280
Speaker 2: the guy for a long time. The thing I said

2027
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: on my lap chat that I would just impart to

2028
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:10,479
Speaker 2: folks who don't understand Ariel and don't know the way

2029
01:38:10,520 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: he works. It's like, dude, you've got to be real

2030
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 2: careful about picking fights with him. He'd be real careful. Listen,

2031
01:38:17,439 --> 01:38:23,600
Speaker 2: no one is above fair criticism, me, BC, Ariel, Producers,

2032
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 2: Patty pimblet anyone is available for fair criticism, and I

2033
01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:30,360
Speaker 2: guess ultimately the audience will decide exactly how fair it is.

2034
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,280
Speaker 2: What I can tell, and I think I would agree

2035
01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 2: largely with him. Ariel has done much better about making

2036
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,680
Speaker 2: his case to this point. I would certainly say that.

2037
01:38:38,240 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 2: But what I've noticed is just a lot of people

2038
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 2: think they can just steal on him and it will work.

2039
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:50,400
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. M Like, if you're going to have an

2040
01:38:50,479 --> 01:38:53,080
Speaker 2: argument about what he's doing or something you don't like. Again,

2041
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,760
Speaker 2: no one is above criticism, but you better be very,

2042
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,880
Speaker 2: very thoughtful and careful in the way that you make it,

2043
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 2: to make it as accurate as you can and as

2044
01:39:03,320 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 2: accurate as it needs to be, because if it's not,

2045
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 2: he's going to eat you alive. And I think we've

2046
01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:10,760
Speaker 2: seen that, Like Ariel has been doing this for a

2047
01:39:10,880 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 2: very long time, at the top of the game for

2048
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 2: I mean, thirteen consecutive awards within the industry. But who's

2049
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:17,960
Speaker 2: the best journalist? I think it tells you a lot there,

2050
01:39:18,400 --> 01:39:19,760
Speaker 2: and that's something to keep in mind. I just think

2051
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: these guys vastly underestimate him. I think it's going to

2052
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:25,000
Speaker 2: be some easy walk in the park. The other thing

2053
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 2: I would say is like, yeah, of course, if it

2054
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,439
Speaker 2: was in the cage, fighters would beat my ass. They'd

2055
01:39:29,439 --> 01:39:31,920
Speaker 2: beat Ariel's ass, they beat anyone's ass. There's not another

2056
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:34,360
Speaker 2: fighter of that caliber. But that's not the fight they're picking.

2057
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,799
Speaker 2: They're picking media battles. You know, they're picking media battles

2058
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,680
Speaker 2: against the guy with the number one media audience in

2059
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 2: the sport. It's just not smart. You know. Again, no

2060
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:46,200
Speaker 2: one's above criticism if that's a real fair thing you

2061
01:39:46,240 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 2: want to introduce, but just get into like a war

2062
01:39:48,720 --> 01:39:51,160
Speaker 2: of words. With him, especially if you're calling into a

2063
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: question his character, like you better have good evidence for that,

2064
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,080
Speaker 2: you better be right. And if you're just like off

2065
01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 2: the cuff picking a media battle with him, he's gonna

2066
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,000
Speaker 2: light you on fire. He is for sure going to

2067
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 2: light you on fire. And I think you saw that.

2068
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:04,680
Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens with what Patty says in

2069
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 2: terms of like putting his case together after the fact.

2070
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if anything will will really happen with

2071
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,400
Speaker 2: that or not. I guess we'll have to see. I

2072
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,760
Speaker 2: think the last thing I would add though to all

2073
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:15,559
Speaker 2: of this is he was, like I saw him as

2074
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 2: a friend. Listen, there's nothing wrong with having a few

2075
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,960
Speaker 2: friends in the industry, journalists or otherwise. There's nothing wrong

2076
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,679
Speaker 2: with that, Like I think, in fact, in this industry,

2077
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,000
Speaker 2: as small as it as, you kind of have to

2078
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 2: and a big mistake I made personally, and lord does

2079
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 2: I've made a bunch of them over the years, is

2080
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:35,000
Speaker 2: I didn't have enough allies in the industry. I still

2081
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 2: don't have that many, but I've got a lot more

2082
01:40:36,720 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 2: than I used to, and it's really important. So I

2083
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: understand the idea of wanting to befriend journalists, but you know,

2084
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 2: fighters doing that, I be careful with that. And I'm

2085
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:50,280
Speaker 2: not saying that like to Ariel or to anybody else.

2086
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 2: I'm saying the relationship works best when it's kept professional

2087
01:40:55,000 --> 01:41:00,120
Speaker 2: for both entities. When both entities are keeping it professional well,

2088
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:04,160
Speaker 2: they understand what's expected of them. They understand the strengths

2089
01:41:04,200 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 2: of that relationship, and they understand the limits of it

2090
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:09,879
Speaker 2: as well. And I understand wanting to be a fighter's

2091
01:41:09,880 --> 01:41:12,640
Speaker 2: friend or wanting to be a media guy's friend, but

2092
01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 2: those are not necessarily people. You can be friend lee

2093
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:16,840
Speaker 2: with them, you can actually care about them in a

2094
01:41:16,880 --> 01:41:20,439
Speaker 2: capacity as well, but like being buddies with them is

2095
01:41:20,600 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: not It's just not good for anybody. It's not good

2096
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,840
Speaker 2: for the fighter ultimately long term, it's not good for

2097
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 2: the audience. It's not good for the whoever journalist it

2098
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 2: may be in that particular theoretical construct. It's just it's

2099
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:34,639
Speaker 2: just not a great idea. So, like, I understand there's

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Speaker 2: a certain kind of like aw shucks, that was trying

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Speaker 2: to be his friend, and I understand that, and I

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Speaker 2: don't think there's necessarily anything sinister about that. It's not

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Speaker 2: my point, but that's not the way the relationship is

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Speaker 2: supposed to work. So if Ariel understood that to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: a media opportunity, I can understand that as well. I

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Speaker 2: he can't see it any other way because he's trying

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Speaker 2: to keep a professional lens on about what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: and so not getting a drink or whatever that Patty

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Speaker 2: was insinuating is the right call. It's the right call

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Speaker 2: to not do that kind of thing. And I said this,

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Speaker 2: I'll end with this one. I said this yesterday as well,

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Speaker 2: and I'll remind folks I hear a lot of Listen.

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Speaker 2: I'm a critic of the MMA media, and I think

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Speaker 2: one reason why fighters don't understand the difference. And I'm

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Speaker 2: speaking broadly about the industry, not about any one particular actor,

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Speaker 2: but I think one of the reasons why fighters get

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Speaker 2: confused about the limits of journalism or what it's supposed

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Speaker 2: to look like is twofold one. I think at large,

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Speaker 2: the MMA media has not done a great job of

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Speaker 2: differentiating themselves from people who are just media but not journalists.

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Speaker 2: The fighters actually have a hard time recognizing that difference.

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Speaker 2: In part that's because of the industry pressures on them

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Speaker 2: to act a certain way or getting their credentials yanked

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Speaker 2: or whatever. It kind of makes everyone look homogenous to

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Speaker 2: an extent, But nevertheless, there is a difference, and I

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Speaker 2: think the better fighters, in terms of their media savviness,

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Speaker 2: would would learn to navigate those differences in what they

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Speaker 2: look like and why they look the way that they do.

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Speaker 2: But in general, think MMA media if they're like confused,

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Speaker 2: and again speaking broadly, if they're confused about why some

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01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:15,759
Speaker 2: people don't understand the differences between journalism and not journalism,

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01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 2: it's because a lot of it looks the same. And

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Speaker 2: if it looks the same, then I think we all

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01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,360
Speaker 2: meet too all of us have some reflecting to do

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Speaker 2: about why that's the case. However, in defending the MMA media,

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Speaker 2: again speaking broadly, one thing I will say is this,

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Speaker 2: and I'll end here, right I have, and this is

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Speaker 2: true for anyone who's done this a long term. What

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Speaker 2: is the nature of my job? The nature of my

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01:43:38,320 --> 01:43:41,160
Speaker 2: job is to present to you the MMA world and

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Speaker 2: all the events that happen in it, typically around the

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Speaker 2: fights themselves, but everything. And I've been doing this for

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Speaker 2: you know, a long time, fifteen years plus going on

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Speaker 2: twenty and so I have devoted my adult life to

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01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:58,400
Speaker 2: understanding as best I can the fight game. Now, when

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01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:00,839
Speaker 2: fighters say if you've never done it, you'll never truly understand,

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01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: they're right. They're right. I won't, and anyone else who

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Speaker 2: has never done it on that level won't. There is

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Speaker 2: going to be always a gap between the information that

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Speaker 2: I can ascertain without doing that versus with it, and

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Speaker 2: it could be a pretty big one in certain cases.

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Speaker 2: But my entire adult life, by the way, ten years

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Speaker 2: in MMA gyms, speaking to hundreds of not thousands, of fighters,

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Speaker 2: hundreds if not thousands of coaches. I've attended more events.

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Speaker 2: I've got a bag with all my credentials in them,

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01:44:28,120 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 2: and I've talked to referees. I've talked to judges. I've

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Speaker 2: talked to promoters, I've talked to sponsors. I've seen promotions

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Speaker 2: come and go. My entire adult life has been trying

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Speaker 2: to understand fights, fighters and the fight game. Now that's

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Speaker 2: does it entitle me to say whatever I'm going to

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Speaker 2: say is biblical and factual in every case, But that

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01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 2: has been how I have literally oriented my adult life,

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01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 2: understanding that you cannot tell me that the rest of

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Speaker 2: the fight game has done even one tenth that amount

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Speaker 2: of effort in understanding how media works, and in particular,

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Speaker 2: how MMA media works. The favor has not been returned,

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01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:11,560
Speaker 2: doesn't have to be right, that's not their job. The

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Speaker 2: job of a promoter is not to understand the intricacies

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Speaker 2: of MMA media. The job of a fighter certainly is not.

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Speaker 2: But if you want us to take criticisms of MMA

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01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:24,720
Speaker 2: media seriously, you could start by actually understanding how it

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01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 2: works and why it works the way that it does right,

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01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:30,160
Speaker 2: And you just don't see a lot of evidence of

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Speaker 2: that hardly anywhere. It's why it's like most of us

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01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:34,640
Speaker 2: in MM media roll our eyes at a lot of

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01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:37,000
Speaker 2: the criticisms. It's not that there are not criticisms to make,

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Speaker 2: it's that the ones that usually get made are hopelessly

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01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,599
Speaker 2: wrong and usually kind of ignorant, Like there's not even

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Speaker 2: remotely in the ballpark of like good discussion. This is

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01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:52,120
Speaker 2: not even worth taking very seriously. And that's this situation

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01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,280
Speaker 2: is a personal one between those two guys that got

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01:45:55,360 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 2: made public, and it's the whole thing. But again, speaking broadly,

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01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,519
Speaker 2: you know, we do nothing but devote our life to

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01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:07,000
Speaker 2: the study of their occupation, and they don't and they

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01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: don't have to, but they don't return that favor, and

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Speaker 2: then they want their critiques of the media to be

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01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:15,200
Speaker 2: taken as seriously. It's like, you have a right to

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01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:17,479
Speaker 2: say those things, and on occasion they're going to be

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01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,680
Speaker 2: right about clickbait or other things. They're going to be

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01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 2: right about some of those things for sure, right that

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01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,680
Speaker 2: that is a true thing. But the level of understanding

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Speaker 2: about media practices and what journalism is supposed to look like,

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01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 2: very little of that on their side comes from actually

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01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 2: trying to learn how the business works more just what

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01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 2: they inherit as assumed wisdom about it. And to me,

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01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 2: it's like, you want me to take the criticism seriously.

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Speaker 2: Start making some good ones, start making some informed ones,

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01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,960
Speaker 2: Start making ones that have come from actually studying the

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Speaker 2: business and understanding it in the depth that it needs

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,000
Speaker 2: to be to have an informed critique. Everyone is allowed

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Speaker 2: to criticize. Again, none of us, none of us, none

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01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 2: of us are above reproach, and we have to accept

2203
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: that we'll never understand the fight game and the way

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01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:06,320
Speaker 2: that the fighters do fair enough, I accept that limitation.

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01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 2: But if you want me or anyone else to accept

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01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:11,800
Speaker 2: the criticisms of mma media, yo, start by learning how

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01:47:11,840 --> 01:47:14,560
Speaker 2: it works. And I just don't see a lot of

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01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,040
Speaker 2: evidence of that. I see a lot of just naked antipathy.

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Speaker 2: Or what I see is like the laziest thing you'll

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01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:23,960
Speaker 2: see is that when a fighter, not Patty in this case,

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01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:28,320
Speaker 2: but like I've seen in the past, fighters, you know,

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01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 2: get in trouble about something or whatever and then just

2213
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 2: lazily blame the media for it. You know, It's like, dude,

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01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:37,360
Speaker 2: that's the lowest common denominator thing you can do. That

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01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:40,160
Speaker 2: just tells me you don't have any place to go

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01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:42,360
Speaker 2: to get out of this criticism, so you're just going

2217
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 2: to blame it on the media. It's like you can

2218
01:47:44,080 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 2: always do it. But that doesn't mean I have to

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01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 2: take it seriously, and that doesn't mean anyone else has

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01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 2: to take it seriously either. So as a general rule,

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01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:54,600
Speaker 2: I think folks should reflect on the fact that the

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Speaker 2: study of another one's occupation here in this industry is

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Speaker 2: largely a one way street. All right. That is it

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Speaker 2: for us here today. I want to thank Dan Kenobio

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Speaker 2: for joining us. I want to thank, as I mentioned again,

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Speaker 2: all of you out there. I want to thank BC

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Speaker 2: who's not here, who had bagged under his eyes the

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Speaker 2: size of hammocks that people sleep in. And I want

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Speaker 2: to thank obviously the Malkas staff, the Showtime staff, the

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports staff, and everyone else involved who not only

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Speaker 2: made today's show possible, but made the glory of the

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Speaker 2: award possible as well. We are just we are really

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Speaker 2: happy right now. We are very very happy with how

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Speaker 2: I mean it in every way I can say it.

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Speaker 2: We love you guys, We love this show, we love

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Speaker 2: this opportunity, and we are far from fucking done. Enjoy

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Speaker 2: the fights tonight, enjoy the fights tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: BC.

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