1 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 1: The United States welcomed some refugees from South Africa. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 2: Interestingly enough, the people. 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Who are saying we need refugees in the country aren't 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: super thrilled about it. 5 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: Also, drama inside the DNC. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 1: I know we all hate to see that, but there's 7 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: lots of infighting and honestly. 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: It's quite hilarious. 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: And a co host from the View is changing her 10 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: tune on the Pope after she makes a pretty dumb discovery, 11 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: not that it should matter at all. All that more 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: coming up on this episode at Turning Point tonight. My 13 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for tuning in. Together, 14 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 15 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: This is turning Point tonight. 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: And before we get to any of those stories and 17 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: our fantastic panel, I want to get to a piece 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: in The New York Times over the weekend. Now, the 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: New York Times is used to be a newspaper and 20 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: now is just an opinion section masquerading as news. And 21 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: in this piece, they talked about the bleak outlook of California. 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: Why aren't people optimistic anymore of the nation's most populous state. Now, 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: they did touch on all of the issues that are 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: embroiling California. They touched on homelessness, the fires, the water resources, 25 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 1: the rampant illegal immigration, the healthcare system, the high cost 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of living, and they laid that all at the feet 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: of President Trump, which I thought was hilarious. It almost 28 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: seems like it's it's too crazy to be true. But 29 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: every single time they said, well, they're water resource problems 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: that the Californians are facing, and then there's difficulty working 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: on that problem with Washington. The homelessness epidemic has overtaken 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: California because of the policies, and the problem that California 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: has is being able to work with Washington all the 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: way up to the fires, the fires that plagued California, 35 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: which again were a tragedy and disaster and nobody wants 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: to see that happen. Well, the real problem is the 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: contentious relationship that California has with Washington. 38 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: D C. 39 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: I kid you, not. 40 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: The entire thing, again and again and again and again 41 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: effectively blamed Donald Trump, a guy who's never lived in California, 42 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: let alone held public office in California, for all of 43 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: California's shortcomings. Now, to be fair, they did say that 44 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: the President has been well, let's say, apprehensive to help 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: California out. But I also understand that the big comparison 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: that they made was, well, President Clinton in his term 47 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: as a Democrat didn't want to help the then Republican 48 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: governor of California. Sorry, did help the Republican governor of 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: California after the earthquakes that cost forty billion dollars in damage. Well, 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the caveat there would be okay, Well, Clinton wanted to 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: win California in the ninety six elections, so he had 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: a vested interest in helping them. And again that's not 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: to say that President Trump doesn't want to help Californians. 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: But put it this way, if somebody is getting punched 55 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: in the face, of course you want to help them out. 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: But if somebody is repeatedly punching themselves in the face, 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: maybe you hold off assistance until they stop, which is 58 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: exactly what President Trump has effectively said, Hey, California, we'd 59 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: love to help you out, but you got to make 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: some changes to how you're running things, or else we 61 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: think maybe our help will be have wasted, will have 62 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 1: been wasted on a state that will not recorrect any 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: of its policies. Here to comment on that and so 64 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: much more is our fantastic panel. Bo Alford is a Sorry, 65 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: a Turning Points content creator's mouthful, and Harrison win Winehold 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: works at the Blaze. Blazed TV guys, thank you so 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Really appreciate you taking the time. 68 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 1: Of course, boul I want to start with you here. 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: California again, pretty big deficits when it comes to pretty 70 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: much everything culturally economically. I hate to ask this and 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 1: sound serious, but considering that The New York Times publish 72 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: this piece, do you think President Trump is to blame? 73 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 4: No, I definitely don't think Donald Trump is to blame. 74 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm not someone that goes to California often. I've only 75 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 4: been there twice now, maybe three times, but one of 76 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 4: them just so happened to be a few weeks ago, 77 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 4: so I got to taste California first hand pretty well. 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 4: And the first thing I want to point out is 79 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 4: the fact that I had to pay eight dollars for 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: a kit kat. How can you survive in an economy 81 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 4: where you have to pay eight dollars. 82 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 5: For a snack? 83 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 4: Now, granted it was in a more prestigious part of California, 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 4: but I still don't think that that makes it any different. 85 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 4: The fact that you're paying so much, but that's everywhere 86 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 4: in California gas prices or five dollars a gallon. I 87 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: just do not see when you were paying a million 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 4: dollars for less than a thousand square foot house and 89 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 4: you're paying five dollars for a gallon of gas and 90 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 4: eight dollars for a snack. You can live in the 91 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 4: state of California. It is naturally beautiful, but the leaders 92 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: that are leading it are killing it. 93 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you why, bo It's because of President Trump. 94 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: That is why it's so awful. And if you don't 95 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: believe me, Harrison, let me read you some quotes from 96 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: this article. They're talking about California being at its most 97 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: vulnerable and desperate time seeking federal assistance, but it seems 98 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: unlikely can look to Washington for help. It also says 99 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: Governor Knew Some boasted about this last year's new tourism numbers, 100 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: but said that all of those numbers may go away 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: because of the Trump tariffs and restrictive immigration policies, again 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: digging themselves into a hole and then saying, well, the 103 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: federal government led by Donald Trump isn't helping us out 104 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: of the hole. Therefore, here's the problem, is that how 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: you see. 106 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 6: It, I'm bullishunk California. I'm actually very I'm actually very 107 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 6: bullishunk California. 108 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: It is getting redder. The people are waking up. 109 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 6: I think you're gonna see potentially California really turned into 110 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 6: maybe it could. It's flippable. I think for sure if 111 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: they get all the illegals out of California, I mean 112 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 6: that would be unbelievable. They would definitely. I think you'd 113 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 6: probably go red for real. But outside of that, this 114 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 6: is total progressive collapse of California. Being blamed on Donald 115 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 6: Trump is such a dying gasp from mainstream media, Like 116 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 6: that is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 6: And the whole thing is blamed on Trump for the 118 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 6: literal everything that anybody who's like even sort of right 119 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 6: of center has said has been happening in California for 120 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 6: the past fifteen twenty years. So it's insane to me. 121 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, the state has been run by the left effectively 122 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: in both of the chambers of the state legislation and 123 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: every single state wide elected or political office for the 124 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,279 Speaker 1: last forty years. And again they're in this hole, and 125 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: this article makes it clear. Well, the only reason they 126 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 1: can't get out of the holes because there's a lack 127 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: of help from Washington. Also, Harrison to your point of 128 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: California getting a little bit more and more read every 129 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: single election cycle. Yeah, Republicans haven't won it in a 130 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: very long time. But Donald Trump picked up ten different 131 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: counties throughout the state that Joe Biden had won in 132 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. He picked those up in the twenty twenty 133 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: four election, which, again I'm slowly seeing a shift away 134 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: from the insanity. You know where I'm not seeing a 135 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: shift away from the insanity is inside the DNC. There's 136 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: drama inside the Democratic National Committee, and I know we 137 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: all hate to see that. That's the last thing we 138 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: want to see is drama and turmoil inside the DNC. 139 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: But the DNC, one of the committees there, the Credentials 140 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: Committee inside the Democratic National Committee, voted yesterday to void 141 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: the internal elections, which would effectively void David Hogg's seat 142 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: as the vice president. Now, if you're not familiar with 143 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,119 Speaker 1: this story, to catch you up really really quick, David 144 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: Hogg is a very very progressive individual. He's a twenty 145 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: five year old who wants to primary Democrats in Democrat 146 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: held seats, which is a crazy thing to do if 147 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: those seats are strongly held and you're gonna effectively get 148 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: a further left person in there that possibly could lose 149 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: to Republican Again, we all hate to see that. We 150 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: hate to see bad decisions being made. But bo is 151 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: this kind of the old getting back to the old 152 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: smoke filled rooms. The Democrats are going to pick who 153 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: they're going to pick at the very elite levels, and 154 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: the whole thing about democracy that they've been clamoring about 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: for the last several cycles is not actually what they 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: believe internally. 157 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right. 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: Sadly, it is the elites that decide everything within the 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 4: Democratic Party. And not to give any credit to David Hogg, 160 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 4: because there's not much credit to give him, but if 161 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: there is any credit at all, I would say there 162 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 4: is reform that needs to be had in the Democratic 163 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 4: Party and he's willing to do that and they have 164 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: to stop him. So yeah, seeing stuff like that. You 165 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 4: can also refer to the U f America tour where 166 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: there was a lot of turmoil. There couldn't even make 167 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 4: it past one tour, stop trying to mess with Turning 168 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: Point USA before they started to internally crash on one 169 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 4: another for racism. 170 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 5: So you see it twenty four to seven. 171 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 4: The reason that they're not gaining any new voters, the 172 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: reason they're getting no more hype than they are right now, 173 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 4: is because they can't get past the insider fighting to 174 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 4: even talk to the masses, because they're just fighting all 175 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 4: the time. 176 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: But I don't want to bury the lead here, but 177 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: for our viewers at home that don't want what the 178 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: unf America tour is, it was a tour that was 179 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: following around the Turning Point tour. It was only one stop, 180 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: which is you know, sad, but you know I would 181 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: watch out for that. They almost had eleven people at 182 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: their rally, and that is a that is a force 183 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: to be reckoned. You know, we had three thousand, but 184 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: again it's it's a numbers thing and almost eleven is 185 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: is is getting up there, Harrison. The new election now 186 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: is going to be had, so they're going to redo 187 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: effectively the elections they had earlier in the year. Uh, 188 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: do you think there's going to be any change? And 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: by change, I mean I don't know. Do you think 190 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: some people may not make it to the vote. To 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: put it lightly, Okay. 192 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 6: Big day in the stock market today. So I am 193 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 6: bullish again. I'm bullish on David Hogg because it's my theory. 194 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 6: Everything that he's experiencing now is is just very indicative. 195 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 6: And this is just everything that goes on to the 196 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 6: left is weird infighting. 197 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 3: It's full blown leftism now right. 198 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 6: So like, these are people having struggle sessions all the time, 199 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 6: and I think what he is seeing is an opportunity 200 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 6: or maybe what he will see if he's smart. And 201 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 6: I don't know if he is smart or not, but 202 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 6: I know he has This is almost like his whole 203 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 6: persona was contrived, like he wasn't there the day the 204 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 6: shooting happened. There's a lot of weird stuff. But all 205 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 6: that being said, you might be a deep state. All 206 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 6: that being said, if he starts moving to the right 207 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 6: a little bit on these things, starts going on some 208 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,599 Speaker 6: podcasts and like realizing that the left hates and the 209 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 6: Democratic Party rows him out, gets some other guy. You know, 210 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 6: they'll find they'll find some young black you had to 211 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 6: do it, maybe you know, some young black girls something 212 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 6: like that. 213 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: They can't do a white guy. 214 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 6: So yeah, I think if they cast him out hard 215 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 6: hardcore enough, the whole prodigal Sun thing, people will love 216 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 6: to talk to him. He'll be able to get a 217 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: lot of press, and then he can be one of 218 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: these like converted you know, Joe rogan S type sort 219 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 6: of interesting. 220 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 2: Interesting. 221 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So you're you're saying that he is experiencing with 222 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: so many libs have experienced in the past. Hey, they've 223 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: got like Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders probably should have gotten 224 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: the nomination. Again, I'm not talking about like his ideas 225 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: are good or anything, but he got he got the 226 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: the the rug pulled out from under him several times, 227 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: and you're thinking, hey, if this happens to David Hogg, 228 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: maybe he starts to get a little bit frustrated, comes. 229 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 2: Around to the right side of the aisle. 230 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 6: To be fair, some of this started with him doing 231 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 6: something sketchy, right, wasn't he being like a grifter? And 232 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 6: he put his number in a DNC fundraising email or 233 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 6: something like. 234 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 3: That, something really weird. 235 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 6: So if he's just a general grifter, then that's even 236 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 6: better chance that he'll find some way to pivot to 237 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 6: the right. 238 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 3: Honestly interesting, But if. 239 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: There's no path for him because the establishment, the smoky 240 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 6: room cigar smokers are too protective. Right for whatever they need, 241 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 6: he's gonna get. He's gonna get paid somewhere. 242 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: That's not a. 243 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 2: Really interesting Yeah, really interesting to see. 244 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: Again, not really trying to throw any accusations against him 245 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: that I don't have full knowledge of. 246 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 2: All of this is alleged, but it is. 247 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 1: Interesting to see the infighting and you know, yeah, maybe 248 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: you're right bullush on David Hogg getting the Bernie Sanders 249 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: treatment and finally going yeah, enough enough of these morons. 250 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 6: I'm gonna go to go where I Joe Bob the 251 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 6: the gun tours where he's just doing the anti gun thing. 252 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: Dues do not pay enough, so he's gonna have to 253 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 3: find something else to do. Yeah, his lifestyle is already rare. 254 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 6: Like think about where he was ten years ago or 255 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 6: whenever this went down, his kids making a lot of money. 256 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: He's thinking like millions of dollars doing all this sort 257 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 6: of stuff. The spicket's gonna run out. He's got a 258 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 6: nice lifestyle. I think he's going to Harvard or he 259 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 6: graduated Harvard something like that. So this is he's gonna 260 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 6: have to do something, and there's plenty of there's plenty 261 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 6: of funny money for uh for converts on the right. 262 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 3: For sure. 263 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: We'll we'll see, we'll see what happens there again. Hate 264 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: to see inner turmoil in the DNC. Harrison and Bo 265 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 1: will be back after the break to discuss well the 266 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: view co host that was not a big fan of 267 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the new pope has changed. 268 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: Her tomb for a clearly racist reason. 269 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Also, these South African refugees, it's it's funny the people 270 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: that were so pro refugee all of a sudden are 271 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: very upset. 272 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: H Is it deserved? 273 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: We'll have a video that I think pretty well defined 274 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: whether or not those refugee status was reserved for those 275 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 1: South Africans. All that more coming up after the break, donuncle, 276 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: it'll be right back. Welcome back to turning Point tonight. 277 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: We're together. We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 278 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: My name is Joe Bob. Thanks so much for sticking 279 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: with us. Now, you've probably already seen the videos of 280 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: the South African refugees coming into the United States, and 281 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: probably the biggest difference you've seen than the other refugees 282 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: that are faking it faking their asylum flames from other countries, 283 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: but we won't get into that at the moment. One 284 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: of the differences you've probably seen is well, they were 285 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: families and they were waving American flags and didn't seem 286 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: to hate America, which is a nice change for refugees 287 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: coming into the country. 288 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 2: One of the. 289 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: Problems though, is a bunch of people, especially on the 290 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: lib side, that have been so such big proponents of refugees. 291 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: We need more refugees in this country, totally hated the 292 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: refugees coming in from South Africa, probably because they're white 293 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: and everybody sees everything through the lens of race on 294 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: the lefty side of the aisle, and that made them very, 295 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: very upset. Let's bring our panel back in. I want 296 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: to set this up. There's a bo and Harrison here. 297 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: Now. 298 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: The whole idea that Wallace is because they're white. There's 299 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: not actually any sort of danger in South Africa. That's 300 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: the argument being made from the people who were so 301 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: pro refugee about ten minutes ago, and now now all 302 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden are very upset about this. Let me 303 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: play you this clip. This is a guy named Julius Malema. 304 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: He's a member of the National Assembly of South Africa. 305 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: He is an elected member of their legislation in South Africa. 306 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: Listen to what he's saying, and then let's discuss whether 307 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: or not there's actual real threat to these folks who 308 00:15:58,240 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: are now refugees. 309 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: The United States. 310 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 7: Must never be scared to kill, and revolution demand that 311 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 7: at some point that must be killing, because they're killing 312 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 7: is part of a revolutionary act. 313 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 8: I don't know what's going to OpenD in the future. 314 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 8: I'm saying to you, we're not called for the killing 315 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 8: of white people, at least for now. I can't guarantee 316 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 8: the future. 317 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean you'd understand somebody watching that, especially 318 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: as it gets shared on Twitter, they freak out. 319 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 8: It sounds like a genocidal a cry babies, I'm not calling. 320 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: For the slaughter of white people, at least for now. 321 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 8: I can't give you a guarantee of the future, especially 322 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 8: when things are going the way they are. 323 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 2: Bo. 324 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm curious if the mayor of the town 325 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: that you lived in said, hey, look, we're not going 326 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: to commit a genocide against people with the names like 327 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Bo with facial hair, and we're not going to do that. 328 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: We're not gonna do that at least right now. Would 329 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: that instilled confidence in you the at least right now, 330 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: or would you maybe think, yeah, I might be might 331 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: be in some danger here. 332 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd be in a little bit of danger for sure. 333 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 4: I would be trying to get my uh myself out 334 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: of that city as quick as possible. 335 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 336 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's fascinating to see the juxtaposition there, Harrison. 337 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: You know, it was nice seeing refugees come into the 338 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 1: country who actually looked like they might love this country 339 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: and be thankful to the president. Now we're talking about 340 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: like seventy people as opposed to the tens of millions 341 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: that came in under the previous administration. They were waving flags, 342 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: they loved it. You know what, I don't know what 343 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: are your initial thoughts. Is it warranted? 344 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 2: Is it justified? 345 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: Should the people who were screaming about how many refugees 346 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: we'd love, who are now silent? Pound sand Listen. 347 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 6: I don't want any refugees, to be fair, but that 348 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 6: being said, caveat they seem like some of the most 349 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 6: legitimate people to have a claim to asylum and they're 350 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 6: literally getting pulled out of their like off their farms 351 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 6: and getting murdered. 352 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: So they seem chill. 353 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 6: You know, it's just like polite sort of German people, right, 354 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 6: aren't they kind of Germany africaners well. 355 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: Culturally culturally speaking, yeah, you may, you may have a 356 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: little bit more laid back thing. Again, the views of 357 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: the guests may not reflect the views of the show. 358 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: Uh brought bo So this guy, this guy's a member 359 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: of the Economic Freedom's Fighters, who's the founder and leader 360 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: of that. It's a communist political party that generally wears 361 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: like military style uniforms. Again, is that concerning to people 362 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: who Well, first of all, imagine if that was something here. 363 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: Imagine if somebody in any side of the American political 364 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: system were calling for this sort of stuff, dressing the 365 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: way this guy does. 366 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 2: I feel like that would be concerning. 367 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, one hundred percent is concerning. 368 00:18:59,800 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 9: Uh. 369 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 4: But to go to the main point on Donald Trump 370 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 4: and the Democrats hating it, they hate it because there's 371 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 4: no longer the narrative of Donald Trump is anti immigration. 372 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 4: Donald Trump is a racist. You can't make that claim 373 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 4: anymore when he is bringing over refugees. And the key 374 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 4: difference is these are the ones waving American flags. They're 375 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 4: not crossing the southern border illegally. And it's just so 376 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 4: weird to me to see Democrats they only praise people 377 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 4: of color, and they praise people that do things illegally. 378 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: If you're not crossing into America through Mexico, then they're 379 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: not gonna be too happy about you being here if 380 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: you're not a person of color, if you're just a 381 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 4: white person, you know, that does them no gain. 382 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 5: So they are not happy about it. 383 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: Just oh, Donald Trump, he's gonna he's gonna get a 384 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 4: good view because he's no longer anti illegal immigration or 385 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: he's no longer anti immigration, So it just Democrats hate it. 386 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I wish we could just you know, base things 387 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: off of you know, merit and need and all that 388 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. And I couldn't care less about the 389 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 1: race of the people coming into the country or the 390 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 1: race of the people at all for any sort of position. 391 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: Just you know, are are you pro America? Are you 392 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna wave a flag? Are you gonna have a family here? 393 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 1: I gotta move on to this because I think it's 394 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: interesting and kind of in that same line. A co 395 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: host of The View, Sonny Hostin, who we've talked about extensively, 396 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: because I don't. 397 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: I don't think she's dumb. That's the problems. I think 398 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 2: she's evil. 399 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 1: There's there's a difference, right, she's you're either evil in 400 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: Lye or you're dumb. I don't think she's actually dumb. 401 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: But she previously expressed some concern about the new American Pope, saying, well, 402 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: you know, he believes in traditional marriages and doesn't like 403 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: these alternative marriages and all that sort of stuff. But 404 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: the yesterday she found out, well, let me play you 405 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: this clip and it'll it'll be clear what she found out, 406 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: and it seems to be she seems to be changing 407 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: her tune on the new pope. 408 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: Watched this. 409 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 8: As it turns out, our new American Pope has Haitian 410 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 8: and black roots, so we actually have a black pope. 411 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 2: Okay, that doesn't that doesn't matter to me at all. 412 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: Now let me say this as a as a person 413 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: of a person of color, and I hate that caveat 414 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: that gets thrown in there. If there was the first 415 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: Samoan president, let's just say just Samoan Samoan female president. 416 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: I guess Tulsi Gabbard might actually fit that that mold there, 417 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,439 Speaker 1: but let's just say, I vehemently disagreed. I'm not happy 418 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: just because, oh, well this person is a Samoan, Okay, 419 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: but she's also a socialist and a communist and hates America, 420 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: so that that doesn't make me feel good. 421 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 2: But why why why is it that? 422 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 1: Okay, well, I disliked this guy except for hold on, 423 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: we found out that he might be black kind of 424 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: maybe Haitian. 425 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: But so now he's great. Now it's awesome. Congratu. Let 426 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: everyone cheer. 427 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love to go through her train of 428 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: thought on this, because you know, she was against the 429 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 4: pope because he was homophobic, apparently for having his religious views. 430 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 4: Buddy's black, So if you're black and homophobic. 431 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 5: It's based. 432 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 4: But if you're if you're not black, then it's it's cringe. 433 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: Dude. 434 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 4: That seemed to be the train of thought that I 435 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 4: was getting from her. 436 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I said, I don't think she's dumb. I 437 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: think she's evil. Which is the difference? Harrison, Your thoughts 438 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: is that, well, first of all, let's just say Joe 439 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: Biden is white. That must mean you loved him. So 440 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: is Elizabeth Warren Klaus Schwab. All of these people are white, 441 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,119 Speaker 1: and because everything matters based on race. According to the 442 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 1: folks on the view, that must mean you're a big 443 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: fan of all of those people. 444 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: Is that is that accurate? 445 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 6: I live in New Orleans. He's a New Orleans mulatto. 446 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 6: He's got a little bit of mulatto, we'd like to call. 447 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 6: And actually his parents put white when they move to 448 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 6: Chicago on their on like their forms and stuff, which 449 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 6: I think is just reality down here over one hundred 450 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 6: of years. Like if you had any if you weren't 451 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 6: anything not perfectly white, you were cagun, creole, melatto, anything. 452 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 6: They give you all sorts of different distinctions there. So yeah, 453 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 6: I mean he doesn't look like his skin doesn't look 454 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 6: perfectly white. I guess he's got a little a little 455 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 6: olive right there, you know, American. 456 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 3: So I it's all bizarre. Obviously. 457 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 6: The worst thing is did you watch that full clip? Actually, 458 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 6: because if you watch in that clip, the actual most 459 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 6: disgusting part of it is the way that Whoopee Goldberg's 460 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 6: like sitting there silently with this weird like face, like 461 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 6: she's so happy that the pope's black. 462 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 3: It's like it's like. 463 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 6: She's watching Jesus come down like from the cross and 464 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 6: she's just sitting there like, oh my, like like it's bizarre, creepy, 465 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 6: coltish nonsense. It comes from turning away from God and 466 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:04,679 Speaker 6: worshiping Satan mostly, but worshiping yourself and being a narcissist psychopath, 467 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 6: which is all that the view and the left that 468 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 6: you know, that's all that is really, that's what it 469 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 6: appeals to and everything. 470 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: So I was just gonna say, breaking news, the view 471 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: is godless and terrible. This is the first we're just 472 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: hearing this now. This is breaking news, full team coverage 473 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 1: later on in the hour. 474 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 2: To move on to this. And this is the last 475 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 2: thing we'll get to that I think is. 476 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 9: Just is. 477 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: It would be funny if it weren't so horrifying. So Colorado, Colorado. 478 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: If you don't remember the clip, sorry, the legislation that 479 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: we were talking about last week about the trans day 480 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: of whatever and transing the kids and the guys saying well, 481 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: Jesus might be trans all of that sort of stuff. Well, 482 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,880 Speaker 1: now there are a couple of Colorado female Colorado staffers 483 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: in the state capitol that reported being disturbed by a 484 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: dude in their bathroom. This is also we've been making 485 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: a running joke of this. This is also where we 486 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: get turned off on YouTube because they'll they'll kick all 487 00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: this is off the platform, so this won't be on YouTube. 488 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: But they were making this big deal. Not big deal, 489 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 1: it is a big deal. They were submitting this complaint about, hey, 490 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: there's a dude in the bathroom and this makes us 491 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: feel uncomfortable, and now they're very, very concerned about retaliation 492 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: from the powers that. 493 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 2: Be in the Colorado State legislature. 494 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: Bo I think a lot of people can be scared 495 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: to actually go come forward with this sort of stuff 496 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,639 Speaker 1: because it does come at a cost. Is that cost 497 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: worth it, especially in the whole safety of women's spaces. 498 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 5: Yes, it's one hundred percent worth it. 499 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 4: But the reason it is so scary to come forward 500 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: with such allegations is two major factors. One you're in 501 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 4: political office and two you're in Colorado. So both of 502 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 4: those factors are going to make it hard to come 503 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,600 Speaker 4: forward with such a claim. But you know, I am 504 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 4: very happy that she did, and hopefully hopefully something changes 505 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: within Colorado. Not not too optimistic that that's going to happen, 506 00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: but who knows. 507 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 10: Uh. 508 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 1: The part of the I've been saying for the longest 509 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: time part of if these laws get passed and if 510 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: they are actually enacted in the state governments, you probably 511 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: just have to break them, not break them as in, well, 512 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: I guess you would break the law, but put so 513 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: much pressure on that law, put so much absurdity on 514 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: the absurd law that it just breaks. And I'm wondering, Harrison, 515 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: do we need to send you maybe to the bathrooms 516 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: in Colorado just to prove a point. 517 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 6: Now I'm a lady that yes, cause I am. I'm 518 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 6: bullish on men in women's spaces. That's what I'm doing. Wow, 519 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 6: we're taking them all back. It's like it's it's crazy, 520 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 6: like feminism in leftism, progressivism has gone so warped that 521 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 6: it's like we're almost right back in the fifties, like 522 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 6: male chauvin as pigs, like mad men slapping women on 523 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 6: the ass and making them uncomfortable. 524 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 3: They can't complain to hr they're like too scared. 525 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 6: They're scared they're gonna get retaliated against a loser job. 526 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 6: And it's like we're just doing the same thing. But 527 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 6: now it's like psychopath men that dresses women and they're 528 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 6: doing the exact same thing to women. So women obviously 529 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 6: short into the stick. I'm selling the women, I'm buying 530 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 6: men in women's places. I don't think the left is 531 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 6: obviously fixing that or they care about women at all. 532 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 3: So this is a great opportunity. 533 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 6: Maybe for the right to finally be able to take 534 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 6: that mantle back from the moral high ground that the 535 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 6: left has had in progressivism for so long. 536 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 3: Like, maybe finally people. 537 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 6: Will realize that the people that actually protecting women are 538 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 6: on the right, not this insane shit on the left. 539 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, all right, this is on Cable though, right, We're on. 540 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 2: Cable's Yeah, no, I agree. 541 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: Maybe it takes exploiting the laws to figure out how 542 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: to stop them, or at least show other places so 543 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: that they don't enact those same laws. Bo Harrison. Harrison, 544 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: maybe our most controversial guest on this show. I really 545 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. We'll have you back soon. 546 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: Thank you, Love you. Than Coming up next on Turning 547 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Point tonight, we've got a fantastic clip from Alex Clark's 548 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: Culture Apothecary podcast. 549 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 2: Don't go away, We'll be right back after this. 550 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 11: How many vaccines in one day are we giving children today? 551 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 12: When you were two months old, you were getting nine 552 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 12: vaccines at two months, four months, and six months. 553 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 11: Why that many at one time? 554 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 12: That is an awesome question. And I don't know. I mean, 555 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 12: some of these are diseases that babies don't even get 556 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 12: exposed to, like appatitis B vaccine that's a sexually transmitted infection. Well, 557 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 12: I give babies a vaccine. I mean, maybe give teenagers 558 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 12: that vaccine, you know, if they decide to make bad 559 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 12: life choices, I guess. But other vaccines we give baby, 560 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 12: like polio vaccine, we don't have polio anymore. 561 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 11: We give people would say, yeah, we don't have polio 562 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 11: anymore because we have the vaccine. 563 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 12: Yeah, and they use that tone of voice. Why they 564 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 12: say it? Right? 565 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 11: What you say? 566 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 567 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 12: Yeah? Well, I mean you could argue that that's like 568 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 12: an hour long discussion in and of itself. You know, 569 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 12: did the polio vaccine help us get rid of polio? 570 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 11: I have the polio vaccine made us all crippled? 571 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 12: Well, that's that's interesting you say that, because it did 572 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 12: do that, very sadly, to about nine American babies every year. 573 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 12: We're getting crippled by the polio vaccine that we used 574 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 12: in the eighties and nineties. So since by then we 575 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 12: had gotten rid of polio as a disease. We stopped 576 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 12: using that vaccine that used to cripple nine kids a year, 577 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,480 Speaker 12: and we switched it over to another vaccine that doesn't 578 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 12: have that side effect. But it also doesn't prevent the 579 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 12: spread of the disease anymore. 580 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 11: The polio vaccine doesn't prevent the spread of polio. 581 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 12: The one we use today no longer prevents. 582 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 11: Then what is the point of it? 583 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 12: Because if polio ever re enters our country, each individual 584 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 12: is vaccinated will have some immunity from getting a paralytic 585 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 12: case of the disease. But we haven't had polio enter 586 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 12: our country in forty years, so that isn't a risk. 587 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 12: So you could go through each one of those nine 588 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 12: vaccines and decide, hey, does my kid really need a 589 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 12: have B vaccine? Does my kid really need a polio now? 590 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 11: So what I'm thinking is, I'm assuming surely if the 591 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 11: CDC is saying, hey, these nine vaccines, you can do 592 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 11: it all in one go, that means they've figured out 593 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 11: that they're all good to like interact with each other, right, 594 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 11: It's all safe to like mix and match, you know, 595 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 11: put them all in mixing bowl. Put it in your arm. 596 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: Is so? 597 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 11: Is that true or no? 598 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 12: The FDA has said that when you mix a new 599 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 12: vaccine with the eight other vaccines were already giving a baby, 600 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 12: the baby doesn't seem to have any higher risk of 601 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 12: side effects. That's a problem. They really should be testing 602 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 12: these vaccines for safety against inactive placbos. You develop a 603 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 12: new vaccine, say, for example, that we developed pneumonia vaccine 604 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 12: maybe something like eighteen years ago, and instead of doing 605 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 12: placebo safety studies comparing how kids react, how babies reacted 606 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 12: to that vaccine compared to not getting any vaccines at all, 607 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 12: all they did is they added that new pneumonia vaccine 608 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 12: to they ate other vaccines and compare the side effects 609 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 12: to babies getting the eight other vaccines. And you know, 610 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 12: most of them did okay. Some of them had you know, 611 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 12: fevers and seizures, some of them had minor nerve problems. 612 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 12: But you're not comparing apples to apples. 613 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 11: When a new parent takes their baby to the pediatrician's office, 614 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 11: what questions should they ask about each shot in the schedule. 615 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 12: Well, if you're just now beginning to explore this issue 616 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 12: at that moment with your pediatrician, say that your two 617 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 12: month check up, when those nine shots do, that's not 618 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 12: the time to start investigating this. You should have been 619 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 12: reading about this months ago, during pregnancy or even before 620 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 12: you have kids. It takes many months to learn about 621 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 12: each vaccine. So if you don't do any of your 622 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 12: homework and you take your two month old baby in 623 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 12: for your checkup and you ask your doctor, well, tell 624 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 12: me about each of these nine vaccines. I want to 625 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 12: know all the details. It would take your doctor four 626 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 12: hours to explain all that, and no doctor has that time. 627 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 9: You know. 628 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 12: I almost put the responsibility on parents to do the 629 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 12: homework before you ever even have that checkup, because the 630 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 12: doctor doesn't have four hours to spend with you. And 631 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 12: so that's I think that my biggest passion for parents 632 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 12: is I like reaching parents during pregnancy, when the babies 633 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 12: are young, or before their babies are born, get them 634 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 12: thinking about this. You do your homework, You read about 635 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 12: each vaccine and what the disease is and what the 636 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 12: vaccine side effects are. You develop an idea in your 637 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 12: mind the pros and cons of each of these vaccines. 638 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 12: You kind of come to your decision of what you 639 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 12: think you might want to do or not. Do you 640 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 12: talk to your friends about it, you get educated about it, 641 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 12: then you sit with your doctor and you tell your doctor. 642 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 12: You know what, I don't think I want to do 643 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 12: the entire CDC schedule of vaccines. I'm not comfortable doing 644 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 12: all of them. I might want to do some of them. 645 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 12: Let's talk about it, and you schedule extra time with 646 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 12: your doctor schedule. I like a double checkup time, because 647 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 12: no doctor has you know, they can't sit with you 648 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 12: for another hour to have that discussion, So schedule it 649 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 12: ahead of time. But honestly, nowadays, doctors aren't going to 650 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 12: keep you as a patient if you don't comply. If 651 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 12: you're questioning vaccines that way, you have to find an 652 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,680 Speaker 12: office that's open to the discussion. 653 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 11: What is the current state of research on the vaccines 654 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 11: and autism. 655 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 12: I think that's what every parent is worried about. You know, 656 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 12: they hear that vaccines might be related to autism, and 657 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 12: they know autism is on the rise. It is skyrocketed 658 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 12: since the late eighties. Unfortunately, we don't have enough research, 659 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 12: in my opinion, to make a very clear, concise scientific 660 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 12: statement one way or the other. I don't think we 661 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 12: can say vaccines do cause autism. But I don't think 662 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,080 Speaker 12: we can say vaccines don't cause autism. I think it's 663 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 12: still up in the air because we haven't done the 664 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,040 Speaker 12: right kind of research. You would literally have to take 665 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 12: thousands of unvaccinated babies in a research study, compare them 666 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 12: to thousands of vaccinated babies and look at the rates 667 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,879 Speaker 12: of autism. 668 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 11: Do you have patients in your clinic who have autism 669 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 11: that we're not vaccinated as babies. 670 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 3: I do. 671 00:34:57,080 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 12: I've seen some mild cases of autism and fully unvaccinated children. 672 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 12: It's my opinion and a lot of people's opinion that 673 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 12: autism is very directly related to environmental toxins. 674 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 11: If these babies have autism in your clinic that were 675 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 11: not vaccinated, is there any other things that are in 676 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,840 Speaker 11: common between the mothers, like they both ate like really 677 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 11: horribly during pregnancy, or had mold exposure. Is there anything 678 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 11: that you found that connects them. 679 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 12: Research has been pretty clear in showing that environmental toxins 680 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 12: effect autism risk. Nutrition effects autism risk. So when it 681 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 12: comes to vaccines, vaccines have toxins in them, they have 682 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 12: chemicals in them. They are not a benign, harmless, chemical 683 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 12: free product, and so in order to save all these 684 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 12: other chemicals can contribute to autism, but vaccine chemicals can't 685 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 12: contribute to autism. You can't say that scientifically until you 686 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 12: do a research project that actually proves it. All the 687 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,800 Speaker 12: studies they've done in mainstream medicine have failed to show 688 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 12: a relationship between vaccines and autism. They haven't proven there 689 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 12: is no relationship. They've essentially failed to show that there 690 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 12: is a relationship. It's kind of a little scientific nuance 691 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 12: that allows them to then say, well, we've proven vaccines 692 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,919 Speaker 12: don't cause autism. You know, the scientific terminology is we've 693 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 12: shown no relationship between vaccines and autism. But what the 694 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,240 Speaker 12: media say is that we've proven vaccines don't cause autism, right, 695 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 12: and so parents don't have to worry. So that's kind 696 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 12: of the media mainstream message that people hear. But in 697 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 12: the families that have been affected by autism, and families 698 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 12: who have seen their children have a severe vaccine reaction 699 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 12: the night they had vaccines and the next day their 700 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 12: kids suddenly showing all these symptoms of autism. You try 701 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 12: to tell one of those parents and that vaccines are 702 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,440 Speaker 12: not related, they'll never believe you, right, And so because 703 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 12: science isn't holding the hands of these families and saying 704 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,320 Speaker 12: we hear you, We know this is happening to thousands 705 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 12: of kids in our country. You know every year the 706 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 12: rates of autism US are increasing every year. We're going 707 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 12: to get to the bottom of that. The mainstream medical 708 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 12: scientific community says, well, can't be vaccines. It's got to 709 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 12: be something else, and we're going to try to figure 710 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 12: out what it is. But I think parents today, back 711 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 12: to your original question, is what are parents to do? 712 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 12: You know, science says no, it's not vaccines, but so 713 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 12: many families are saying, yes, it is vaccines that caused 714 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 12: my child to a had the sudden onset of autism. 715 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,839 Speaker 12: In my office, I've seen kids develop very severe neurological 716 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 12: reactions the night they got vaccines, and then in the 717 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 12: weeks that come they show all these symptoms of autism. 718 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 12: I've seen it in my office. 719 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,359 Speaker 10: Immediately, nobody has thought about you, who's just twenty four 720 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 10: to seven flooding the zone. Back to my thirteen year 721 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 10: old owning this space every day, getting a convert and 722 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 10: then I'm thinking about we're gonna stand back and watch 723 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 10: you run circles around us. 724 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 9: He said it best at Turning Point USA. We're relentless. 725 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:32,280 Speaker 9: We're changing minds on campuses every semester, defending conservative values 726 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 9: and fighting for America's future. Your donation helps keep us 727 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 9: on campus. Join the movement and donate to TPUSA today. 728 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together. We are 729 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 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We got this interesting email yesterday 739 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,479 Speaker 1: from a guy named David in Oakland, which I thought 740 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: was fascinating. He sent us a photo about well, let 741 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,720 Speaker 1: me just show you the photo. 742 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,799 Speaker 2: Check this out. 743 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 1: He said, First of all, how you doing love the show? 744 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, David, Thank you so much. 745 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: He was driving. 746 00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give the location specifically, but asked 747 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: a really interesting question. This is a photo that he 748 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:35,359 Speaker 1: took in Oakland and said, where's my money going? We 749 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 1: actually have a governor, should he step down? What the 750 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 1: heck is going on effectively? And that is a great point. 751 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:41,800 Speaker 2: Look at this picture. 752 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: There are tens of millions, hundreds of millions, possibly even 753 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: billions of dollars in the state of California, up and 754 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: down the Golden State, going to fix problems like this, 755 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,839 Speaker 1: and yet the problem not has it not only not 756 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: gotten better, it's gotten substantial worse. The homeless crisis has 757 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: gone up the more money we spend, and it's because 758 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: people are siphoning off money. So thanks David for sending 759 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: that a particular photo. The homeless industry now is effectively 760 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,880 Speaker 1: stealing tax dollars from you, which is why you should 761 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,719 Speaker 1: not let that happen in your state. California unfortunately has 762 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: been lost because people are taking it over off the 763 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: streets because nobody does anything about it, and the money 764 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: that is supposedly gonna help fight it just goes to 765 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: enriching the state's cronies at every single level. 766 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 2: You know what that's gonna do? 767 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: It for us here at turning points, and I really 768 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: appreciate you sticking around. Got a limited time here. Charlie 769 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,160 Speaker 1: Kirk is gonna take us out. We will see you tomorrow, 770 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: same time, same place. Don't miss it. 771 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 13: God bless America. 772 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 9: Right out of the gate. Here we have a wonderful 773 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,480 Speaker 9: fighter for liberty, someone who I really respect them, known 774 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 9: for quite a wit while Senator Ran Paul from the 775 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 9: great state of Kentucky. Senator, great to see you, Thank 776 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 9: you for taking the time. The breaking news today is 777 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 9: that President Donald Trump is in Saudi Arabia announcing a 778 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 9: closer partnership with many Golf states. Something I know that 779 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 9: you and I both care about is trying to prevent 780 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 9: a war with the run. It seems as if some 781 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 9: of the neo cons in DC have been talking about 782 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 9: more and more military engagement in Yemen and against Iran. 783 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 9: How do you think we should balance an alliance with 784 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 9: some Golf states all the while trying to prevent another 785 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 9: no win, endless war in the Middle East. 786 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 14: You know, I commend the President for going to the 787 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 14: Middle East. Some of the Democrats are up in arms, 788 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 14: you know, criticizing it. But part of some Blomsey is 789 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 14: showing up being in the areas, talking to the leaders, 790 00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 14: and then ultimately trying to, you know, resolve differences with 791 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 14: diplomacy rather than war. I do think that the wars 792 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 14: in the Middle East and the tension in the Middle East, 793 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 14: sometimes we don't pay enough attention to the conflict that 794 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 14: is between Iran and Saudi Arabia in the Gulf States. 795 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 14: So there's considerable amount of tension, and it goes into 796 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 14: the thinking of Iran as well, not just their animosity 797 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 14: or relationship with the US, but also their relationship with Israel, 798 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 14: which is pretty obvious, but then also their relationship with 799 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 14: the Golf States as well, and ultimately to get to 800 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,840 Speaker 14: some sort of peace agreement with Iran, I'm proud of 801 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 14: President Trump for actually opening a dialogue and discussion, but 802 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,200 Speaker 14: to get to peace ultimately, it has to, I think, 803 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,399 Speaker 14: sort of include some of the Golf States as well, 804 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 14: including Saudi Arabia. So Saudi Arabia could be a more 805 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:39,400 Speaker 14: constructive player here and hopefully that's part of the discussions. 806 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, and so let's broaden this a little bit more. 807 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 9: There are some in DC that seems so insistent on 808 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 9: trying to escalate military tensions with Iran. You are, without 809 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 9: a doubt one of the most morally clear and principled 810 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 9: members of the Republican Conference Against War and actually want 811 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 9: to see us invest money and in our own country 812 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 9: and to defend liberty. What is the status of this. 813 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 9: It seems like there's been an increase in the amount 814 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 9: of chatter about potential military strikes against Iran. Let's just 815 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 9: let me ask it this way. Why would an American 816 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 9: military strike against Iran be a bad idea? 817 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 2: Some people in our. 818 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 9: Audience, so I really respect, say Charlie, they can't have 819 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,839 Speaker 9: a nuclear weapon. It's just military strikes. It's just air 820 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 9: strikes against an airfield, or again, no thing. 821 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,200 Speaker 2: Nobody wants please them. 822 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 14: Yes, nobody wants them, including myself, to have nuclear weapons, 823 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,879 Speaker 14: but strictly from a military point of view of how 824 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 14: we prevent that. Once they get to enrichment of say 825 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 14: ninety five to ninety eight percent, you can probably have 826 00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 14: a cupful of uranium that is enriched that much and 827 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 14: that can be enough for a bomb. So once you 828 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 14: have about ten cupfuls, you got enough for ten bombs. 829 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 14: And can that be hidden in places that you can't 830 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 14: militarily get to without a ground invasion and taking over 831 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 14: every inch of Iran. Probably it will be difficult. So 832 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 14: ultimately the discussion about trying to get an agreement is 833 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 14: one that is going to be necessary. I think you 834 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 14: can't really bomb them out of the nuclear age. You 835 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,680 Speaker 14: have to sort of have a negotiation. We have a 836 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:15,800 Speaker 14: great deal of leverage. They have an economy that hurts, 837 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 14: they have an economy that doesn't do very well, or 838 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,520 Speaker 14: people aren't necessarily that happy. But I think we should 839 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 14: use our sanctions in a way we rarely do it, 840 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,839 Speaker 14: and that is to trade them trade sanctioned relief and 841 00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 14: trade and the benefits that come up with that, allowing 842 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 14: them to participate in the world market in exchange for 843 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 14: them not enriching. And there have been discussions of them 844 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 14: not enriching or anything they've enriched above a certain amount, 845 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 14: trading that out and not enriching above a certain percentage. 846 00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,640 Speaker 14: And I think that's something we ought to explore. I 847 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 14: think Trump is exploring it, and I'm excited, at least 848 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 14: optimistic that these discussions are ongoing. 849 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,919 Speaker 9: So the one big beautiful bill is working its way 850 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 9: through Congress. I would like to see a lot more 851 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,399 Speaker 9: spending cuts. I wish that we would have a much 852 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 9: more serious intent on trying to trim the federal deficit 853 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 9: and of course eventually the federal debt, the national debt. 854 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 9: What is your take on the early drafts of this big, 855 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 9: beautiful bill. I'm sure there's some things that you would support, 856 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 9: and are you thinking of voting for it? Where are 857 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:21,160 Speaker 9: you standing on this reconciliation bill? 858 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 14: So in twenty seventeen, I voted for the Trump tax 859 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 14: cuts and they became the Republican tax cuts, and this 860 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 14: was done through reconciliation. 861 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 2: I was all in. 862 00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:31,839 Speaker 14: I think they did a great job. I think they 863 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 14: created that economy that Trump was always bragging about, with 864 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,480 Speaker 14: the lowest historic unemployment before we got into the pandemic. 865 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 14: I'm still for all of that, and I'm for making 866 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 14: it permanent. That's one big aspect of the bill. The 867 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,160 Speaker 14: second aspect is spending cuts. I'm always for more rather 868 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 14: than less. I think they'll end up being wimpy, but 869 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,400 Speaker 14: I would still support the bill even with wimpy spending 870 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 14: cuts and permanent tax cuts if we weren't going to 871 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 14: increase the debt ceiling by five trillion. And the reason 872 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,480 Speaker 14: why the debt ceiling is so important to me and 873 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 14: used to being important to most conservatives, is that the 874 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,799 Speaker 14: death ceiling is adding everything up and gives you a 875 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 14: simple number that represents really what's going to happen. So 876 00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 14: when they tell you they're going to cut eight hundred 877 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 14: billion or one point five trillion, the numbers are confusing, 878 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 14: and you don't want to know exactly what that means, 879 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 14: what does it add up to. What I can tell 880 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719 Speaker 14: you for certain is that if you raise the debt 881 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 14: ceiling five trillion, you're going to raise the debt five trillion. 882 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 14: Five trillion over two years is just something I can't support. 883 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 14: So come September thirtieth, there will be a deficit of 884 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 14: two point two trillion. We will spend two point two trillion, 885 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 14: or Congress will more than comes in. And you say, well, 886 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:41,840 Speaker 14: whose responsibility is that? Well, the first half of the 887 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 14: year is Biden and the Republicans who supported the Biden levels. 888 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,000 Speaker 14: But then we got to March and almost every Republican, 889 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,200 Speaker 14: myself and a few others opposed this. Almost every Republican 890 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 14: voted for the Biden spending levels in March. That's what 891 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,840 Speaker 14: we're living under now. So it's no longer any blame 892 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:59,920 Speaker 14: on the deficit on Biden, all the blames on republic 893 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 14: not just the President. 894 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 2: Every Republican voted for the. 895 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,120 Speaker 14: March spending levels is responsible now for a two point 896 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 14: two trillion dollar deficit this year and one year. 897 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:09,640 Speaker 3: Historic. 898 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 14: But what's going to be even more historic is voting 899 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 14: on a raise of the debt ceiling five trillion. So 900 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 14: that means they're anticipating another two point eight trillion in 901 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 14: the following year. So I raised my hands and I 902 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 14: shake my head, and. 903 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 2: I say, well, what happened to Doge? 904 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,480 Speaker 14: What happened to all these great things Elon Musk was doing? 905 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 14: What happened to we were going to balance the budget? 906 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 14: Why are we raising the deficit five trillion? So what 907 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 14: I've offered is what I think a reasonable compromise, and 908 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 14: so far I'm about the only person who believes that 909 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 14: it's a good compromise. But I offered, let's give them 910 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 14: three months. Let's give them three months of debt ceiling, 911 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,640 Speaker 14: which is five hundred billion, which is an extraordinary amount. 912 00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 2: We used to never borrow that in one year. 913 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,400 Speaker 14: Give them five hundred billion, it'll. 914 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 2: Last three months. 915 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 14: And then we have the three months, we have a meeting, 916 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,879 Speaker 14: we come together and say well, what have you done 917 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 14: on spending it