WEBVTT - Phantom Rain Cancels Ice Ice Baby

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it is Sunday, June twenty eighth, and Ice

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<v Speaker 1>got rained out. Don't even know how that's possible. There

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<v Speaker 1>is an added bit of humiliation having to do with Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great America State Fair happening in DC, that's all

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<v Speaker 1>about President Trump. And with that, welcome to this episode

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<v Speaker 1>of Amy and TJ. This made me sad.

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<v Speaker 2>This made me, This made be sad.

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<v Speaker 3>This sad because look, whatever however you felt about this

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and fiftieth celebration on the mall, this Great

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<v Speaker 3>American Fair that has turned into basically a massive pro

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<v Speaker 3>Trump rally, look, Vanilla Ice was excited, like genuinely enthusiastic,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah about having an opportunity to celebrate a song that

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<v Speaker 3>he's known for, a song that just about every American

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<v Speaker 3>can sing. And it felt like he it was like

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<v Speaker 3>a comeback for him almost in a way. He was

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<v Speaker 3>pumped when everybody else was like, nah, no thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>And now Robes the day he was supposed to perform,

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<v Speaker 1>which was last night, Robes, after all of this back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth and controversy and people bowing out, the night

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<v Speaker 1>was finally here for him to perform, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get to.

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<v Speaker 3>And I really don't understand why the anseled the official

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<v Speaker 3>reason possible thunderstorms.

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<v Speaker 1>They just said inclement weather. Baby, we have the official

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<v Speaker 1>statement that they put out, but they said inclement weather

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<v Speaker 1>now robes the UFC fight. There were literal we could

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<v Speaker 1>see lightning almost in the disc.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a lightning strike six miles away, which actually

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<v Speaker 3>was within the radius or the distance where they were

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to actually suspend or pause the celebrations.

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<v Speaker 2>Which they didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And there were massive meteorologists like giving out reports saying

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<v Speaker 3>this could be bad, this could be ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>And still they did not cancel.

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<v Speaker 3>They did not pause, they did not delay anything based

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<v Speaker 3>on all those weather reports.

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<v Speaker 1>But they canceled Vanilla Ice last night. Yes, the Great

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<v Speaker 1>America State Fair which kicked off last Thursday. Was it

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<v Speaker 1>right with Trump's big speech?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And you all certainly remember there were so many artists

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<v Speaker 1>we go down the list in a second, but a

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<v Speaker 1>number of artists when they first announced this, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as they announced that these artists were going to perform,

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<v Speaker 1>those artists got backlash. Some of them said I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know about this, and they had all kinds of reasons

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<v Speaker 1>for it, but just about everybody backed out within some

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<v Speaker 1>of them within hours, some of them certainly within days.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were only two robes that were left over.

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<v Speaker 1>Florida still hasn't said a word. But then there was

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<v Speaker 1>one more Robes who not only said he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to show up, he was excited to do so. He

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<v Speaker 1>was enthusiastic the whole time Robes. He never talked about politics.

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<v Speaker 1>He talked about a party that guy was supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>perform last night, And to be honest with you, I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking forward to it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was too, I really look and I was excited

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<v Speaker 3>that he was excited.

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<v Speaker 2>Enthusiasm is in short supply, I feel like these days.

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<v Speaker 3>And so when I see someone who's genuinely enthusiastic about

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<v Speaker 3>something as inclusive as music, I'm on board and I

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<v Speaker 3>can get behind them. And regardless of where he's performing

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<v Speaker 3>or in what context he's performing, he was doing so

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<v Speaker 3>I do believe out of the love of entertaining, not

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<v Speaker 3>about politics, not about anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says it was also about the love of

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<v Speaker 2>his country.

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<v Speaker 3>So for those two reasons, yeah, I'm one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>behind Vanilla Ice.

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<v Speaker 1>You can you can take them to task, you could

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<v Speaker 1>question them for it, so you could say it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>He just wanted it as a business opportunity. You can

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<v Speaker 1>say all kinds of things robes, but his energy around

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<v Speaker 1>this and to he didn't dip a toe anywhere into

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<v Speaker 1>any controversy. He's stuck to theme. If you will music party,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna dance like with chin eaters. He's stuck to it.

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<v Speaker 1>So Robes. For that reason. After all of this, the

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<v Speaker 1>show Folks was canceled. He was supposed to perform last

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<v Speaker 1>night at the Great American State Fair. The show was canceled. Robes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was canceled. I think it was less than two

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<v Speaker 1>hours before he was supposed to go on. And the

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<v Speaker 1>reason they gave was weather. Now, plenty of people immediately

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<v Speaker 1>jumped on and said, wait, what the actual hell, And

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<v Speaker 1>they suggested there was another reason beyond weather. Weather became

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<v Speaker 1>robes for them, a convenient excuse for canceling Ventila's concert

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<v Speaker 1>because they were worried about optics.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, some people have said that they believe the real

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<v Speaker 3>reason why this concert was canceled was the threat of

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<v Speaker 3>low attendance. Look, there would be big visuals. This was

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, we'll we'll get to his audio. But before

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<v Speaker 3>shortly before, as things were getting prepped and ready for

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<v Speaker 3>this big concert. Vanilla Ice actually went on social media

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<v Speaker 3>and was pumped up and excited about the concert tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>and he did a three sixty kind of showing where

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<v Speaker 3>concert goers would gather on the mall and it's a huge,

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<v Speaker 3>wide expanse, and so if not a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>showed up, or not as many people as they would

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<v Speaker 3>like to have showed up, if there was a small audience,

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<v Speaker 3>it would have been ridiculed. And so a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people feel like that is the real reason why they

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<v Speaker 3>canceled the concert.

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<v Speaker 1>Though, I mean, what would it be they directed at

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<v Speaker 1>Trump they were worried about, but wouldn't it be all

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? Why wouldn't he be worried Vanilla Ice that

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<v Speaker 1>he was the one that would be ridiculed. Why wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>they put it off on him and show they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come to his show.

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<v Speaker 2>But they asked him to perform.

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<v Speaker 3>And if they asked someone to perform, who couldn't actually

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<v Speaker 3>deliver an audience, that's still on them. And look, I

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<v Speaker 3>think one of the big reasons why people are saying

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<v Speaker 3>that this is the real reason behind the cancelation is

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<v Speaker 3>that Freedom to Fifty's website makes it very clear. They

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<v Speaker 3>promise on their website that all the events will go

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<v Speaker 3>on rain or shine.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a game but the people in the back, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>The website promises that all events will go on rain

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<v Speaker 3>or shine, and I also have they actually put up

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<v Speaker 3>Variety did a whole article on this. What the meteorologist

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<v Speaker 3>was saying leading up to this event the NBC four

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<v Speaker 3>in DC. This is the exact quote from the meteorologist tonight,

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<v Speaker 3>A few evening storms. Not everybody sees rain tonight. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not like widespread thunderstorms are moving through. We're really not

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<v Speaker 3>having any concern for severe weather. And then the prediction

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<v Speaker 3>was that there may be scattered showers in the early

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<v Speaker 3>morning hours. And by the way, no measurable rain actually

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<v Speaker 3>occurred in DC last night.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so they got it wrong. So the event organizers,

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<v Speaker 1>they roll the dice. They rolled them big, and they

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<v Speaker 1>got it. This is what you have to do. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing, though, Rose, we know this very very well

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<v Speaker 1>in all of our years in events and whatnot. It

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<v Speaker 1>has to be a high bar to cancel. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>all the work, the effort, the stage, getting people in place,

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<v Speaker 1>get i mean get all that goes into putting a

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<v Speaker 1>concert on, you do everything in your power to keep

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<v Speaker 1>from canceling, right yet and everything.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there on the mall with his folks setting up,

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<v Speaker 2>it was all happening.

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<v Speaker 1>A sprinkle does not rise to the level at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even close what they're trying to describe as

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<v Speaker 1>rising to the level of canceling a concert. Roe. It

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<v Speaker 1>just doesn't a sprinkle.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I feel so bad for Vanilla Ice right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy to say? Through all this we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him personally, We don't know his politics, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know much about his life. We know a song, we

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<v Speaker 1>know one song, and we know robes that he was

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<v Speaker 1>excited about. And I didn't realize how much I appreciated

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<v Speaker 1>into now how much throughout this whole back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>about the Great American State Fair and cancelations that Vanilla

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<v Speaker 1>Ice has been the voice of reason in it.

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<v Speaker 2>You and I have talked about this.

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<v Speaker 3>He just he ignored the noise, he ignored the negativity,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just continued to lead with.

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<v Speaker 2>Joy and enthusiasm.

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<v Speaker 3>He was on Fox News, he was pumping this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>he was making the rounds, he was selling the concert himself,

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<v Speaker 3>and his enthusiasm for this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Does he have to Does everybody have to be immediately

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<v Speaker 1>criticized if you participate in something that the president is

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<v Speaker 1>invested in.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we should.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's where we are. Isn't it fair if you

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<v Speaker 1>do anything that's in any way affiliating with this president,

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<v Speaker 1>you get criticized in some circles. This is just one

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't politics. I was invited me Vanilla Ice was

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<v Speaker 1>invited to perform at the Country's two hundred and fiftieth

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<v Speaker 1>on the National Mall, in a venue I've never done

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<v Speaker 1>at a time that's special. Yeah, I'll show up. Should

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<v Speaker 1>we criticize it for that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Should people create it? I mean you can if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to, or think you shouldn't have anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with this president, anything to do with this event. And

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get into why participating in this event was seen

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<v Speaker 1>more so as as support of Trump versus support of

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. But we'll do first, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's do his statement first, and then we'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>the statement that freedom to fifty foot out afterwhids. But

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<v Speaker 1>this was just a couple of hours before he was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to go on and perform for the advice, sounded

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<v Speaker 1>excited about being out there. Oh man, got the monument

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<v Speaker 1>right there. We're about to have a great party tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be epic and you can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look here, give you a big panoramic view.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be good to night. You didn't really fit

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<v Speaker 1>in your damn jews on. We're all teenagers.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go Happy birthday America. Holla.

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<v Speaker 3>You can hear his like drum like they're getting ready,

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<v Speaker 3>but he shows he's doing a three sixty and you

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<v Speaker 3>can see him and this is a huge air to phil.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that is intimidating, I think for a lot of performers.

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<v Speaker 3>But he he didn't seem to mind. He didn't seem

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<v Speaker 3>concerned about it at all. And he put on his

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<v Speaker 3>alongside that video, he said, this is a once in

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<v Speaker 3>a lifetime Happy Birthday America. Put your dance shoes on.

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<v Speaker 3>We're all gonna come together and be teenagers for the night.

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<v Speaker 3>It got almost eighteen thousand likes. Look, that's probably the

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<v Speaker 3>biggest post he's had in a long time. And all

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<v Speaker 3>the comments, some of them are kind, some of them

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<v Speaker 3>are mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait what do we be mean? Is it politically mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Not even so much.

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<v Speaker 3>People are saying basically, not even God wanted this concert.

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<v Speaker 3>God saw this video and was like, nah, like talking

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<v Speaker 3>even the weather thinks you suck. I mean people have

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<v Speaker 3>been mean, like that's I hate that for him because

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<v Speaker 3>he's been nothing, but I think enthusiastic and kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do we do this? Okay, Well, find me an

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<v Speaker 1>individual who doesn't like that song. Fine, met anyone on

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<v Speaker 1>on in the United States who doesn't like that song.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreed, Hey, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to sing every word. You don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to like Vanilla. I don't have to have is know

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<v Speaker 1>his history and anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Doom doom doom, doom boom, You're in doom doom, doom, doom, doom,

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<v Speaker 2>doom doom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just Robes. He said something I wish a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people would have said throughout this back and forth.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go party and dance and act like teach teenagers

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<v Speaker 1>and celebrate Robes. Can't we just come We can't come

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<v Speaker 1>together for a damn song. We can't come together just

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate anything because he's touched it. Ah, You're right, Robes,

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<v Speaker 1>I just you know what this is what I'm gonna do.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even play Oh man, got the monument right there.

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<v Speaker 2>We're about to have a great party tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>This is gonna be epic and you can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Look here, give you a big panoramic you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be good tonight. You didn't fit in for

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<v Speaker 1>the dances, joos on. We're all teenagers.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's go more vanilla ice, less skepticism, less anger, less

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<v Speaker 3>finger pointing, let's hatred more vanillized.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh vanilla is the guy to bring us all together.

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<v Speaker 1>But stay here, we'll let you hear how Freedom two

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<v Speaker 1>point fifty announced that this concert was canceled, and why

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<v Speaker 1>it was canceled, And we'll give you a reminder of

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<v Speaker 1>the other seven X who were supposed to perform as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and why everybody canceled. All right, we continue here on

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<v Speaker 1>Amy and TJ, with tears in our eyes. Vanilla Ice

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<v Speaker 1>has brought us to tears because Rose it is. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something about you just long for us all getting together

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<v Speaker 1>and getting along. And when there are things that do

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<v Speaker 1>make us happy, we can't come together and enjoy them

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<v Speaker 1>happily together. Like I want to stick with my group

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<v Speaker 1>and be happy about your song, you stick with your

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<v Speaker 1>group and be happy about the same song. Like, we

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<v Speaker 1>can't even come together on something that we all do

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<v Speaker 1>agree with. We all like to dance, sing, party, have

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<v Speaker 1>a good time. I don't have any problem with Lee Greenen.

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<v Speaker 1>Would I like some kid rock stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>Stay with you?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean all these things. We can't just party together.

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<v Speaker 3>If music can't bring us together, if even music can't

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<v Speaker 3>do that, we're in huge trouble because that sports and music,

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<v Speaker 3>those are the two things that I feel like have

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<v Speaker 3>always consistently brought us back together and brought people who

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't ordinarily party together or hang together to suddenly enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing together.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yes, two different halftime shows. You remember that, Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>We had two different halftime shows. We have counterprogramming for

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<v Speaker 3>everything it feels like now. And look, I'm concerned because, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>we were hoping Vanilla Ice would still go on, because

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<v Speaker 3>he was one of two people out of a group

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<v Speaker 3>that agreed to continue to perform despite all of the

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<v Speaker 3>politics rolling around this big two hundred and fifty ath celebration.

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<v Speaker 3>But like to think, and I don't want to think it,

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<v Speaker 3>but damn, it's hard not to think that the Trump

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<v Speaker 3>administration or someone aligned with Freedom two fifty decided to

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<v Speaker 3>cancel his performance and use the weather as an excuse

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<v Speaker 3>so as to not look bad in case the numbers

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<v Speaker 3>weren't what they wanted it to be, or what the

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<v Speaker 3>visuals weren't what they wanted them to be. I hate

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<v Speaker 3>to think that's true, because that is so sad, that's

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<v Speaker 3>so small minded. And yet they know what the memes

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<v Speaker 3>would be, They know what people would do online. People

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<v Speaker 3>were waiting for anything to point out from Yes, the

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<v Speaker 3>reflecting pool is a part of this as well to now, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>Ventillas's canceled concert for whatever reason, when the.

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<v Speaker 1>Prison has had a rough go with all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>to sat reflecting Pool eighty six forty seven was the

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<v Speaker 1>vandalism into the grass. Yep, you still got the Kennedy Center. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really big deal. His name is all it

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<v Speaker 1>is not down yet. And then you throw this in

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<v Speaker 1>and yes, roll, there have been consistent to reports. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>some people want to just are after the president, they

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<v Speaker 1>want to embarrass him. But there are Look, there are

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<v Speaker 1>some legitimate not concerns, but the facts are what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>And the crowds haven't been overwhelming yet. It's not fourth

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<v Speaker 1>of July weekend yet, so it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>We're a week away, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to get bigger. But you know, some people want

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<v Speaker 1>to criticize and come after anything that looks like the

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<v Speaker 1>crowds are a little less then, so here we go

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<v Speaker 1>with that backdrop in that context robes it just you

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<v Speaker 1>want to give them credit and you want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, maybe the weather was bad and they aired

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of caution. We just saw them a

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<v Speaker 1>week or so ago not do so when it came

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<v Speaker 1>to the UFC event. And now of course people are

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<v Speaker 1>after this. But this was the official statement from Freedom

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<v Speaker 1>Too fifty that they put out, and they put it

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<v Speaker 1>out on x announcing that Vanilla Ice would not get

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<v Speaker 1>to perform.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh after that enthusiastic social media post, they put this out.

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<v Speaker 3>Due to inclement weather in the area, the Freedom two

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<v Speaker 3>fifty Great American State Fair and FIFA World Cup twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty six Fan Zone will be closed for the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the day Friday, June twenty sixth, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>The safety of our guests, staff and partners remain our

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<v Speaker 3>top priority. We are actively monitoring conditions and will provide

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<v Speaker 3>updates as they become available. The Great American State Fair

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<v Speaker 3>will reopen tomorrow at ten a m.

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<v Speaker 2>What time of day did they put this out?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, you know, I can go back and look it up.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was only a matter of hours before he

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed.

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<v Speaker 2>To perform, and they shut the whole thing down.

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<v Speaker 3>And look, there's no word on whether Vanilla Isis performance

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<v Speaker 3>might be rescheduled. And I think a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>took note of this. They didn't even mention his name.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't even say, for all of you Vanilla Ice

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<v Speaker 3>fans out there, we promise we'll get you, will get

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<v Speaker 3>you a you know, a new concert date. We know

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<v Speaker 3>you guys were excited tomorrow Ice Ice Baby, the rain

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<v Speaker 3>rain babies keeping Ice out, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for long.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun like they could have had fun with it and

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<v Speaker 3>built it up and actually like leaned in on him

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<v Speaker 3>and his fandom. I think to not even mention his

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<v Speaker 3>name was such a slap in the face and people

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<v Speaker 3>are pointing that out. They didn't even mention his name,

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<v Speaker 3>but it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was worthy of doing so. But this was one guy

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<v Speaker 1>who decided to keep riding with you. He supported you,

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<v Speaker 1>was out, He was overwhelmingly enthusiastic about it. Give this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>this is one who deserved a little better from this group.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what they call a fair weather friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I feel like it's really ironic given the

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<v Speaker 3>reason why they canceled or said they did.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of what this feels like.

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<v Speaker 3>If it works for them, okay, great, but as long

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<v Speaker 3>as they think it might not or it could backfire,

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<v Speaker 3>they will throw you under the bus.

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<v Speaker 2>And that kind of feels like what.

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<v Speaker 1>Happened and they had well okay, maybe they're not proud

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<v Speaker 1>to have Vanella Ice, but the man, I love this. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>we all love that song. But this, for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 1>who knew? All these years later, I have become a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger fan of Vanilla Ice, Vanilla Ice because of how

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<v Speaker 1>he's handled all this. But folks, remember it was Martina

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<v Speaker 1>McBride see and see Music Factor, Young mc s, Morris

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<v Speaker 1>Day in the Time, Brett Michaels and the Commodore's. Commodore's

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<v Speaker 1>backed out pretty immediately. Brett Michaels, it took him a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a long thing he put out, He had

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<v Speaker 1>death threats. Yes, so he didn't. Yeah, he didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>her on politics, so he kind of wiggled safeund the way.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go, Morris Day in the Time, Yeah, young him,

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<v Speaker 1>see almost immediately is that I ain't have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with this. I didn't know about this sing and

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<v Speaker 1>see music factory. That's confusing as hell because one of

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<v Speaker 1>the leads artists on the song is not officially with

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<v Speaker 1>the group, and he came out and said all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff from sitting on the toilet in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>eight minute video.

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<v Speaker 2>That was bizarre.

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<v Speaker 1>It was bizarre. Anyway, they're out make ten McBride long

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<v Speaker 1>explanation from her, but her fans went after her.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and she was like in full defense mode of herself,

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<v Speaker 3>like I didn't know, I wasn't sure you know this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would never go into politics. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>upset my fans. She was definitely concerned about the response

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<v Speaker 3>from her fans that she heard loudly and clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>Milli Vanilli. That was another confusing back and forth. We

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<v Speaker 1>had one member who's actually deceased for decades now, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other one said he was going to show up.

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<v Speaker 1>But then Milli Vanilli, the actual official group who has

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<v Speaker 1>the rights of the name, who are the actual artists

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<v Speaker 1>who sang the songs, said hell no, So it was

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<v Speaker 1>a mess. What I'm saying is it was all a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Then there were two Florida still has not said a word.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's got a show that is scheduled for July second,

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<v Speaker 3>and in all the articles they say with free tickets

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<v Speaker 3>available here click. So I wonder, I didn't know how

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<v Speaker 3>this worked. But in order to go to the Vanilla

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<v Speaker 3>Ice concert, did you have to then go onto a

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<v Speaker 3>website and register for those free tickets? Because that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way it's set up for Florida. So then the thought

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<v Speaker 3>would be they could gauge how few people actually had

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<v Speaker 3>signed up for tickets, and look, people may have come

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<v Speaker 3>and not realized you had to have a ticket ahead

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<v Speaker 3>of times, thought they might just show up. So maybe

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<v Speaker 3>that wasn't a fair gauge, but that could have been.

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<v Speaker 3>That gauge could have been more of the reason than

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<v Speaker 3>the weather gage. And that's what a lot of people

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<v Speaker 3>are pointing to.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got Florida is left, hasn't said a word,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing is scheduled for July. Second, you say, what

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<v Speaker 1>is he going to do looking at that? Is he

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<v Speaker 1>going to look and say, wow, they're gonna embarrass me too.

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<v Speaker 1>In the last second, is he going to pull out

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<v Speaker 1>or is he going to go full apple bottom jeans

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<v Speaker 1>and go out there and do his thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he'll bring Vanilla Ice up for a collapse and

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<v Speaker 3>I would be there for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Robes, what if he brought Martina McBride and they're not coming.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, but I would flow right in Vanilla Ice.

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<v Speaker 2>I would watch that.

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<v Speaker 1>I would watch that.

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<v Speaker 3>I would you know what, we can hope and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that will be what will happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Ice needs a win. I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>need to get him on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't deserve what happened to him and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>his fault. And he was the one who said I'm

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<v Speaker 1>willing to ride with you and just do my thing

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<v Speaker 1>and have a good time. You all go listen to

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<v Speaker 1>that song again. It will put a smile on your

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<v Speaker 1>face today. Ice Ice Baby. And we don't know what's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen down the road, but yes, Phantom rain

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<v Speaker 1>canceled Ice in DC, and I'm sure we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get the answer. You talk about robes, what were the numbers?

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<v Speaker 1>Did they see that not enough people signed up? If

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<v Speaker 1>that's available, that'll leak out, that will come out at

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<v Speaker 1>some point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, But in the meantime, let's go listen to some

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<v Speaker 3>Ice Ice Baby, and with that everyone we always appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>listening to us I, maybe roboch alongside TJ. Holmes.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk to you