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Speaker 1: we welcome everybody to the Dallas Cowboys sponsor golf outing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Very excited to take this show out on the road.
Speaker 1: You've got the cast of we got all the shows here, right,
Speaker 1: everybody represented today thinks, uh, maybe not not Shannon's show.
Speaker 1: Not Channon Shy. We'll start a hanging with the boys.
Speaker 1: We are hanging with the boys today, as Nick Eatman says, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Amber Garcia, Nick Eatman, Rob Phillips, Dave
Speaker 1: Hellman again, a special show here from the Cowboys Golf Club.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we're gonna have players pop on by. We're out
Speaker 1: here right now at the club in the middle really
Speaker 1: with the halfway house, uh, where players, all the sponsors
Speaker 1: players can grab some refreshments and and head on to
Speaker 1: the various points of the course. Excited to be out here. Guy,
Speaker 1: I've already seen some golf shots you wouldn't see on
Speaker 1: the golf channel, you know, struggling out there at a
Speaker 1: little little struggling out there. But they're not too pro
Speaker 1: football players. Yeah, I'll tell you what though, But it's
Speaker 1: good to be out here and I'm happy that the
Speaker 1: crews all out here with us. You need some sunlight
Speaker 1: after the Draft show of like twenty four hours coverage
Speaker 1: in the dark. Were you too, David? We had some fun.
Speaker 1: We had some fun. It's good. This is like a
Speaker 1: two hour show, which to Rob and I is kind
Speaker 1: of like, oh, it's a little longer show. But these
Speaker 1: guys just did like the Draft show marathon, so two
Speaker 1: hours is like exactly asking for a break. They're like,
Speaker 1: why how you doing, young lady. You're doing our today.
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. I don't know much about golf, you know,
Speaker 1: as you hit the ball and hope it makes it
Speaker 1: into the hole and straight and far, straight, far, and
Speaker 1: don't have to chase it all day. So there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like we were talking about, we'll hopefully have some players,
Speaker 1: front office guys, coaches, whoever can get through to visit
Speaker 1: with us. We'll we'll take the time to do that.
Speaker 1: For like Nick said, we got a couple hours show
Speaker 1: today and so we'll get into a lot of various
Speaker 1: topics of the things that were going on. We got
Speaker 1: the the rookie Mini camp coming up. The excitement level
Speaker 1: for that and where you see that. You know, we all,
Speaker 1: like you said, Nick, and guys, we we did the
Speaker 1: draft show. We brought all these guys in. Where's your
Speaker 1: excitement level? And I'll start with you, Ambar, where's your
Speaker 1: excitement level right now? The draft class that's coming in. Well,
Speaker 1: the thing is, I don't know that I get much
Speaker 1: from watching the mini camps. Sure, Honestly, it's until we
Speaker 1: get into training camp that you start seeing some real
Speaker 1: action and see how these players are really playing. So
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I'm excited to see vander Esh
Speaker 1: come in and see what he can do at what
Speaker 1: level he's that? Sure? What are you guys calling him?
Speaker 1: What's his name gonna be? He don't like l that's
Speaker 1: too long. Call him late? That's that's bad for a
Speaker 1: linebacker to be late. That's a good point. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: never never a good thing. I'm how about Vandy, you know,
Speaker 1: like the college that's what they call Vanderbilts. That's going
Speaker 1: to be interesting, van Esh is what I heard some
Speaker 1: people say. Um yeah, I have to point about the receivers.
Speaker 1: I said this on the round table to your point
Speaker 1: Amber yesterday, Ryan Switzer, who's no longer here right, pretty
Speaker 1: good a year ago at this rookie camp, because although
Speaker 1: it's not really a compete type of practice and they're
Speaker 1: not in pads, you can see what kind of routes, hey,
Speaker 1: Byron Jones. You can see what kind of routes guys
Speaker 1: are running. And and I think Dalton Schultz is a
Speaker 1: guy to watch. I think Michael Gallups gotta watch. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. And Cedric Cedric Wilson's
Speaker 1: the guy. You're right, These rookie receivers, the rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: Mike White'll be out there. Those are the things that
Speaker 1: you can see like, oh, the guy looks good, you know,
Speaker 1: the spiral looks nice and and the you know, nice
Speaker 1: route and nice catch. You know, you can't tell if
Speaker 1: Connor Williams is going to be dominant there just because
Speaker 1: of how he moves his feet and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. But it's so this is one of those things,
Speaker 1: what can we see, what can we evaluate? Um, I
Speaker 1: think it'll it'll be fun to see. It's about the
Speaker 1: athletic ability is really what it is. You can see
Speaker 1: the movement schools. If we remember last year at this time,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Okay, you know, Taco, how does
Speaker 1: he look just moving around? How does uh you know,
Speaker 1: how do the corners all look Lewis Cheeto? How did
Speaker 1: they look moving around? I think those are the things
Speaker 1: you can kind of draw from, uh, from these uh,
Speaker 1: from these uh, these camps and stuff. I think it'd
Speaker 1: be a lot more teaching. Is my memory hazy or
Speaker 1: is it really just more of like a jog through
Speaker 1: and then it's it's it's not you'll see, you'll see.
Speaker 1: It's not the let's go out there and where's somebody
Speaker 1: out watching get sick? It's yeah, that's I'm just I
Speaker 1: just want to see where they put these guys. That's
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I would expect Connor Williams to
Speaker 1: start at left guard and get work there, and we'll
Speaker 1: see where they put these receivers. But yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: ambers right, if you want to see football, probably better
Speaker 1: off waiting until late July. But yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: I said, you see where they put these guys and
Speaker 1: how they're working with them, what they're trying to teach them,
Speaker 1: try to glean up little bit from that. I was
Speaker 1: just looking at the wireless MinC like, oh, maybe that's
Speaker 1: what we should have got as Byron Jones is over there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think she was going to ask Byron if he'd
Speaker 1: come back, but well we forgot the we forgot the Mairelin.
Speaker 1: That's okay. We could get all the way out to
Speaker 1: some people, this is why we're here. Some people stop
Speaker 1: here because you know, they gotta go to the bathrooms. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then some people just play, Yeah, they just go through.
Speaker 1: I think Byron's group just decided to go from a
Speaker 1: level was a jail, and that came through and he
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not stopping. I gotta Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: my next shot. I like the fact jail and he
Speaker 1: had his bag looked like you need to have his
Speaker 1: name on it, you know, it's like a professional looking bag. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the leper Con is his uh as his is his
Speaker 1: uh head cover there on his driver. So yeah, well
Speaker 1: maybe we could get like say Ambar can we can?
Speaker 1: Chris Beam has set us up where we can take
Speaker 1: this wireless and go all the way out, So we'll
Speaker 1: figure that out. Maybe get a word with somebody out there.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can let Rob he uh do a little
Speaker 1: golf commentary. We got that on the course, which, yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got some golf commentary Brad Sham and they're doing
Speaker 1: a little golf commentary out there on the second hole
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yeah, yeah, well he was talking while the
Speaker 1: swings were going. What's that with Byron? Is he he's
Speaker 1: playing some DJ learning about some djane over there? Right? No,
Speaker 1: Bryce is not there, but he said he's gonna join
Speaker 1: us in a little bit, right right, Ryce isn't playing
Speaker 1: with Pat Peterson and Larry Fitzgerald. Now he thought, no,
Speaker 1: I thought Bryce would be the dj J booth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. Now he's playing the actual foot
Speaker 1: baffle bag is no longer here. So well, I mean
Speaker 1: what receiver? I mean the whole world. That's kind of
Speaker 1: a good segue. Receiver. Yeah is it? Where's where's the group?
Speaker 1: Where is that croup? I'll tell you what Bryan's Davon Austin?
Speaker 1: What is running back? I think? Now? I did a
Speaker 1: scouting report on Dallas Cowboys dot com yesterday on translated
Speaker 1: into Spanish. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much. If you've gotten used to my slang
Speaker 1: with scouting, I think that we've been together at this
Speaker 1: long not slang. It's just disjointed English it is. It's
Speaker 1: just jointed English hips. Yeah, yeah, quick? Why why do
Speaker 1: you guys always go to the good hips? Because the
Speaker 1: best so twitchy typical good twitchy's good, good knee bend.
Speaker 1: He's a dancing bear, good dancing bear, term good off.
Speaker 1: Punch needs more consistency with the punch. Tell you what
Speaker 1: the would you just described there? Who did I just yeah?
Speaker 1: Who did I just describe there? Okay, give me the scout. Okay,
Speaker 1: give me my skan report? Then reading my scan report
Speaker 1: on a table on Austin in his voice? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think? In my voice? Doing my voice? Oh,
Speaker 1: don't make me do that? Yeah, go ahead, Yes, he
Speaker 1: did a whole damn show a question? What is tabe
Speaker 1: on Austin? What his tab is? He needs to work
Speaker 1: around the line of scrimmage good side to side speed,
Speaker 1: don't know about a downfield threats stop hand stop? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a lucky White hit. Okay, now exactly what if where?
Speaker 1: Where would you play him? If he's not a down
Speaker 1: the fuel player, if he's an underneath player. I think
Speaker 1: I think he's a guy. I think he's a better
Speaker 1: lance done what I'm saying, he's a guy that you
Speaker 1: can split out wide, yeah, but kind of in space,
Speaker 1: kind of those short routes, run after catch guy. But
Speaker 1: he needs to show somebody that he can go vertical,
Speaker 1: because if not, then no one's ever gonna be afraid
Speaker 1: of the side to side. He's got to do it occasionally.
Speaker 1: See that's where you didn't see that it was Virginia.
Speaker 1: You didn't see a lot of down the field plays.
Speaker 1: A lot of the plays were underneath, you know, throwing
Speaker 1: routes to him, get the ball to him quick. You
Speaker 1: know last year the rams again, it was jet sweeps,
Speaker 1: handing the ball, toss sweeps, yeah, throw screens. I think
Speaker 1: at a thing, he's gonna be a nice little blend
Speaker 1: between Dunbar and Lucky Whitehead. I think that I wrote
Speaker 1: about this yesterday. I personally, I think it's an overreaction
Speaker 1: to say, like he's a running back, he's gonna play
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, he's gonna be in the running backs room.
Speaker 1: Like I think he's gonna be a receiver who motions
Speaker 1: into the backfield, who takes a handful of handoffs, who
Speaker 1: does the jet sweep, who catches the ball out of
Speaker 1: the backfield. I agree with him, however, I mean he
Speaker 1: had sixty carries last year, but seeing catches do the
Speaker 1: math on that, though, I mean, what's sixty and six
Speaker 1: team games? I mean it's not it's not a boatload.
Speaker 1: It's like three or four. He's he's a skill player.
Speaker 1: And speaking it's an athlete, speaking of grabbing a good interview,
Speaker 1: right off the beat, speaking of athletes, speaking of athletes.
Speaker 1: Right here, right step right in here we go a microphone.
Speaker 1: That's you with the microphone. Hopefully you can hear us talk. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: is that new pool over? We got to do it,
Speaker 1: trying for you guys. Thank you, We're very good. We're
Speaker 1: joined by Byron Jones by welcome. How's how's the plane
Speaker 1: going on out there right now? Rough? You know it's
Speaker 1: early in the morning, the sun starting to beat. I
Speaker 1: saw a snake. I'm not Yeah, we saw a snake
Speaker 1: driving in too, and Derek almost flipped the cart. We
Speaker 1: were all we're all trying to get out of the way. Snakes.
Speaker 1: Everything shouldn't be on his earth. But I it's the
Speaker 1: most I've ever agreed with you ever about anything that's right.
Speaker 1: Get rid of him very much. How's your golf game? So,
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I rise the occasion in these events.
Speaker 1: So I'm hitting pretty decently. You haven't gotten many in
Speaker 1: the hole, but they're getting close. Now there you got mad.
Speaker 1: This is your fourth one. This is my I think third. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well gotta be fourth. Well it was right after, it's
Speaker 1: right after you got drafted. Yeah, it's my third one,
Speaker 1: third one. However, you improved over the years. Last year
Speaker 1: I was I almost like got a hole on one.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to I'm trying to fight back from that.
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping close. The team a little toasted already.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're yes a couple of drinkers. So they're
Speaker 1: playing well. They're playing well as good as you would
Speaker 1: think in their in their minds at least there swings
Speaker 1: like improved that they get. The swings happen a little
Speaker 1: loose and really we got one guy who's just trying
Speaker 1: to kill the ball. There we go. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: it's always right, but he is trying to hit that
Speaker 1: thing hard. But yeah, it's it's good to be out
Speaker 1: with those guys. What were here the thought of the draft?
Speaker 1: You know obviously that there was no defensive backs taken
Speaker 1: for like the first time ever the Cowboys have done
Speaker 1: that what was your dodged overall? Which, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I don't watch my college football, so I don't know
Speaker 1: any of that players. But I trust that front office
Speaker 1: to pick some good ones for us. Yeah, well, how's
Speaker 1: the transition? Then? We've talked about you come out and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move to corner. Now, how's the transition been
Speaker 1: for you? I mean you started off corner. You've been saying,
Speaker 1: he played forty eight games and we're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out what you're gonna do. But you know, I mean, hey,
Speaker 1: good for you, But how has that been? Have you
Speaker 1: had to do things differently in preparation? Putting on weight,
Speaker 1: taking off weight, working more. I actually enjoy it. I'd
Speaker 1: like to challenge. For me, it's it's changing a little
Speaker 1: bit of technique wise. As a corner you we'll focus
Speaker 1: on all your footwork on a press man. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: for me, I like the challenge. I like changing up things,
Speaker 1: and I just want to be in the best positions possible.
Speaker 1: And coach Richards, I think he's going to do a
Speaker 1: good job at coaching me up and making me the
Speaker 1: best kind I've kind of seen him from our office.
Speaker 1: He's kind of working with you a little bit every day.
Speaker 1: It looks like, you know, you're playing your press stuff
Speaker 1: and all that. How has that been from him with
Speaker 1: the changing with the coaching staff and with the new
Speaker 1: defensive I love his energy. His energy is the most
Speaker 1: contagious thing. You know. You feel it in the meeting rooms,
Speaker 1: you feel out on the field. Um, he pushes you
Speaker 1: to the limit. Even though this is just like an
Speaker 1: introduction period. He's pushing us to the limit. We talked
Speaker 1: about how you were the veteran guy, not the old guy,
Speaker 1: but veteran leadership in the secondary last year. What do
Speaker 1: you think about the young DB's Cheeto and those guys
Speaker 1: and what this guys are sus kind of jump they
Speaker 1: can make this year. I think they can make a
Speaker 1: huge jump because they know so much football and now
Speaker 1: it's just about getting reps underneath their belt. And once
Speaker 1: they get that, I think the guy's limit for those
Speaker 1: young guys. Man, I know you left some pretty nice
Speaker 1: notes for like Winning and Dez when they left. Obviously
Speaker 1: you've had your battles with both of those guys just
Speaker 1: and I know they're offensive guys, but you look around
Speaker 1: the locker room like he's I mean you're you're an
Speaker 1: old head now, I mean, what's what's that dynamic like
Speaker 1: looking around the uh, you know, with the exception of
Speaker 1: probably Sean, I guess, not a whole lot of older players.
Speaker 1: And how do you fit into that, you know, in
Speaker 1: the new locker room. Yeah, it's different to see you
Speaker 1: see a lot of guys just go Um. Life happens fast.
Speaker 1: Life change is fast as well. To have those guys
Speaker 1: in my life, I'm incredibly blessed to see them, see
Speaker 1: how they work, see how they prepare. Um, I was
Speaker 1: fortunate to actually get to see them and play with them. Um.
Speaker 1: But new leaders are stepping up. That's just how it
Speaker 1: is in life. That's how it is in football. Um,
Speaker 1: people rise to the occasion, people rise to the top,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna happen with this team. Byron, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We know you gotta go out and play
Speaker 1: some golf. So's the first. Thanks for stopping and good
Speaker 1: best Lucky. We'll see in the OTAs and training camp.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, catch up, yeah, catch up with
Speaker 1: the swing set? Yeah, Byron, John is your line, Dave,
Speaker 1: what life happens fast, Life comes at you fast man. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: look at this roster. Oh that is different way he's
Speaker 1: he's twenty six. Yeah, we were talking about that last year.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden he's the he's the vet guy.
Speaker 1: And now it's like, you know, I mean, who's who's
Speaker 1: left that Shaun Lee is the only non specialist on
Speaker 1: this team who's over thirty. Well, I'll tell you what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it to me. It's a you know with him,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned it, he just got a little smile.
Speaker 1: Guys played forty eight games for you, sar. You know,
Speaker 1: he's played forty eight games and and that's been a
Speaker 1: that's one of those things where you're kind of like going, man,
Speaker 1: figure it out, you know, figure it out for that
Speaker 1: let's let's you know, and then I'm excited it did
Speaker 1: he you know, wants to go out there and challenging.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be your right corner. I think
Speaker 1: that's where you know, you look at. Yeah, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be between him and Lewis at the right. I didn't
Speaker 1: think they would move him if they didn't have a
Speaker 1: plan for him, and I don't I don't know how
Speaker 1: you could say, oh, we're not gonna we're not gonna
Speaker 1: start him or attempt to start him. That's why why
Speaker 1: don't you you scout him as a player, Why don't
Speaker 1: we scout the swing? That was nice smooth swings. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did not. I was kind
Speaker 1: of blocked there a little bit, but by the golf
Speaker 1: cart right there. But yeah, but he's just such a
Speaker 1: good athlete, you know, hand eye guy and all that. So,
Speaker 1: you know, good for him. Again, I just kind of
Speaker 1: I feel I feel bad for him having to just
Speaker 1: but they picked up his option. They want to, you know,
Speaker 1: they want to try and figure things out. Obviously sounded
Speaker 1: very Amber sounded excited about, you know, Christopher Shark coaching
Speaker 1: him though. I think he's one of those guys. I
Speaker 1: think of him as kind of Sean Lee with that
Speaker 1: football mentality of how dedicated you are to the game.
Speaker 1: I think he has that kind of discipline as an athlete.
Speaker 1: And I know he hasn't been great and amazing on
Speaker 1: the field yet, but I still have hope for what
Speaker 1: he can do and I believe him as a player
Speaker 1: and as an athlete. He turned around just to make
Speaker 1: sure he's not read, But I don't think no, I
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, he mentioned that he would, But
Speaker 1: he mentioned Chrisopher Shard to your point, and I think
Speaker 1: I have trust in him based on his track record
Speaker 1: of knowing how to work with dvs. I mean, I
Speaker 1: said yesterday the Legion of Boom is arguably the best
Speaker 1: secondary we've seen in the last twenty years in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He knows what he needs to fit his system and
Speaker 1: this may work out. What Christopher Shard have drafted Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis last year if he was a part of the team,
Speaker 1: would they have drafted Christopher Shard? I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Jordan Lewis if he was here, because he
Speaker 1: would have a bigger corner, long corners, long arms. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Now if he saw how he played, they all gonna
Speaker 1: draft him. If everyone saw how he would have played
Speaker 1: this rookie year he draft. See this is where I see,
Speaker 1: don't forget and say his name, Marquez White. I think
Speaker 1: it's Maru Marquez White. Don't forget more Quez White, because
Speaker 1: I think he's been a kind of a forgotten guy
Speaker 1: with this group. I didn't mean to throw a curveball
Speaker 1: in because it brought it, because yeah, he looks he
Speaker 1: looks the part, and I don't feel like anybody's really
Speaker 1: talking about him. I know we had a mail back
Speaker 1: question leave yesterday about the corners and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I agree with you to a point,
Speaker 1: but like we get a quiet we have there's a
Speaker 1: question in the mail back about every player on the team,
Speaker 1: like nobody's talking about him. Like what do you want
Speaker 1: me to say? No, no, no, no no no, I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that still on the table. But to his he's
Speaker 1: playing the backup safety. But see see to me, that's where,
Speaker 1: that's where, that's where you know that there's some guys
Speaker 1: that we don't you know, there'll be some guy that
Speaker 1: surprises us. Well they're like, oh, well why were we
Speaker 1: not talking about him? I don't know. I don't think
Speaker 1: that'll be a surprise because I think if I had
Speaker 1: to guess, I think they'll keep six corners on their
Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. Yeah, and you broke that down.
Speaker 1: We need to get into that too a little bit.
Speaker 1: And after the after the obvious four buyer and Cheeto,
Speaker 1: Jordan and Brown, who you're who's your five and six?
Speaker 1: I think Mark wese White would be the first one
Speaker 1: off the board in terms of guys who have a
Speaker 1: chance to make the team. You guys mentioned Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: to me, is he not a natural fit potentially in
Speaker 1: the slot to replace Scandrick? His body type short air?
Speaker 1: They went, they went last year, They went last year
Speaker 1: with UH, They went last year with UH. If you
Speaker 1: look at Xavier Woods being that guy true, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's kind of where I
Speaker 1: think that with Xavier Woods. Are they going to play him?
Speaker 1: I mean? Or is he now going to be your
Speaker 1: true free safety? Joined here by Taylor Stern. Now we
Speaker 1: have a line change. It's like a hockey Gawn, what
Speaker 1: you've been calling me the five o five lately? Clip?
Speaker 1: So you hang around? I mean a lot of interaction
Speaker 1: with these young guys. Second year we had with Anthony
Speaker 1: Brown had a year where we thought, okay, he's going
Speaker 1: to jump from his first year and the second year.
Speaker 1: How do you think the trance for the young guys
Speaker 1: who's gonna be Are we gonna see some of the
Speaker 1: pitfalls or what do you feel like on that? Well,
Speaker 1: we all watched All or Nothing. I think Jordan Lewis
Speaker 1: is going to come out hot. He is gonna come
Speaker 1: out ready to take over, compete with Byron Jones figure
Speaker 1: that out right, and I think you know, Cheeto, he's ready.
Speaker 1: He's growing a rat tail. If you guys have seen
Speaker 1: him around this are very questionable hairstyle choices, but very
Speaker 1: solid football. Solid football, Yeah, solid football. And you know,
Speaker 1: of course we were just talking it would be awesome
Speaker 1: to see Taco out here, right, I would like to
Speaker 1: see what Taco's golf swing is like. Yeah, he's six seven,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine. It's amazing. That's always that's always difficult
Speaker 1: for the club selection, especially if you don't own your
Speaker 1: own and then that you borrow some from the club
Speaker 1: Cowboys club and they're not long enough. That's always a
Speaker 1: bad situation. That Charles Barkley swing that one. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: do have Tyrn Smith out here, and we saw him
Speaker 1: on whole one. Not bad, actually not as bad as
Speaker 1: you'd think you would be, right, you know, and he's
Speaker 1: actually proved his game and he was even getting some tips.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it looked like it looked like if you're
Speaker 1: a football, especially for this team with I mean I've
Speaker 1: only ever worked for the Cowboys, but the public eye
Speaker 1: on this team is so great. You wind up in
Speaker 1: situations like this where sponsors and you know, people want
Speaker 1: to play golf with you. I feel like you almost
Speaker 1: have no choice but to at least become passable at
Speaker 1: golf possible. DA's taking it up right, Yeah, last years,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good. Yeah, he's out here with Albertsons right now.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna be kind of roaming between these
Speaker 1: two holes you guys are just placed in front of.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna go get some player interviews. See yeah,
Speaker 1: look again the wireless mike. We've got the opportunity to
Speaker 1: grab a couple of tea boxes here, so see the
Speaker 1: real analysis, get the real analysis and break down some
Speaker 1: golf swings. Does that make me burn lun Quist out here?
Speaker 1: You know what? You could be burned Lunnquist. Dottie Pepper
Speaker 1: is another. She's really good on the broadcast and stuff.
Speaker 1: Dottie Pepper sounds like she's a really good golfer back
Speaker 1: in the day. Good back in the tennis with her
Speaker 1: or something. I don't know. Good, Sorry, but no, I
Speaker 1: was just I was talking about the sorry about what
Speaker 1: your mom playing me, just spouting on, just talking nonsense,
Speaker 1: just talking. But I was just kind of the this
Speaker 1: is team though it's turned into a young team. You know,
Speaker 1: we all we were. Now you've started get with Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant now being gone, you know with with now with
Speaker 1: Jason Witten being gone? Though, is this is this going
Speaker 1: to be the right route? Is this going to be
Speaker 1: the right route? Everybody going with the young team? Wow?
Speaker 1: I mean I mean from not wrong, I mean it
Speaker 1: has to be right. You made this decision. And for
Speaker 1: the record, I think that the decisions all in all
Speaker 1: are good. Like I think this team is trending in
Speaker 1: the right direction, but a better work. We got asked
Speaker 1: on Twitter, if Witton had not retired, would they have
Speaker 1: kept Dez Bryant? Right, And I don't. I think they
Speaker 1: would have moved on to day. I think they'd made
Speaker 1: a decision to move on. I think every case is different.
Speaker 1: I think obviously they would have wanted Jason and to
Speaker 1: come back, which would skew your average age on this roster.
Speaker 1: But hey, Stephen Jones has always said, if you're a
Speaker 1: younger team, you're probably gonna be a healthier team. You're
Speaker 1: gonna make it through sixteen games, and these guys are
Speaker 1: gonna get better, and that's what they're counting on. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're young and all the wrong spots though, or they
Speaker 1: spots in the secondary or no, because what you said yesterday,
Speaker 1: I'm talking cowboys, you said Chris Richard. He basically region
Speaker 1: of boom. He basically threw them up. So it's like,
Speaker 1: these are the right age if you want that coach
Speaker 1: here and you want him in place to do well. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they're young at the right spots. Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean where do you need youth in the secondary? You
Speaker 1: need talent there to be. They're young, but freakishly talented.
Speaker 1: They're receivers. They're young, but they have a lot of talented.
Speaker 1: She's screaming for a safety though? Do they have? Do
Speaker 1: they have? How many times do we have to do this?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm serious. It's not a shot at Amber
Speaker 1: or anybody else. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: I think that they need to add a safety. They
Speaker 1: haven't done it. It's the one thing. Should they made
Speaker 1: the trade? Didn't know they should? Should they? For the
Speaker 1: terms that we have heard were discussed, I'd rather have
Speaker 1: Connor Williams getting excited about a trade. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: you look at it and you say Connor Williams in
Speaker 1: the second round like a Zach Martin he could be
Speaker 1: a starter for you, pro Bowl type guy potentially for
Speaker 1: ten years. That's what the you know, a long term
Speaker 1: guy that can fix your line. And I'm fine with
Speaker 1: what they did. I really do. I mean to me,
Speaker 1: that's on the Draft show he didn't want to guard,
Speaker 1: but in the second round you were okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: want to draft a guard more than I wanted to
Speaker 1: draft a linebacker at nineteen. I never said I didn't
Speaker 1: want to draft a guard. I would have. I would
Speaker 1: have rather had Layton vander Esh at nineteen than whatever
Speaker 1: guard you could have told me was there. Dandy Vandy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I like Lve. I know it's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's gonna be the better player who between the two,
Speaker 1: vander Esh or Connor Williams. Yeah, I think Connor Williams
Speaker 1: has a better chance to be successful right away, just
Speaker 1: be I mean, they're gonna plug him into a line
Speaker 1: filled with all pros. Do you see him jumping boxes
Speaker 1: on Twitter? Yeah? It's I mean, he's an athlete, man.
Speaker 1: He looks more athletic than Tying, which I didn't think
Speaker 1: it's possible. We saw him at the Pro Day though
Speaker 1: in Austin. I know, I know you paying attention. Yes,
Speaker 1: I was, thank you all right, I was there. I
Speaker 1: think you were shut up, Brian y All had a
Speaker 1: good Uh, he was a good trip down there. No,
Speaker 1: he's somebody was paying attention to our second round pick,
Speaker 1: go away. I didn't even know he was. Was he
Speaker 1: working out as much as everyone else? I thought he
Speaker 1: kind of didn't know. He did a full workout. The
Speaker 1: whole video I saw was worked him at Center him
Speaker 1: the Saints. The Saints worked him out. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of puna in that video. Glad you, glad you paid attention. Well,
Speaker 1: the video condensed eight hours of work into eight minutes,
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, um, we got here. He was
Speaker 1: in this group. I don't see a cowboy. Did anybody
Speaker 1: know the guy in the last group? I wasn't. I no,
Speaker 1: I kind of I'm kind of counting. I was like, oh, somebody, hey,
Speaker 1: I mean, somebody was like that Wetzels like everybody, but
Speaker 1: everybody but the rookies is here. So offensive lineman from Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Offensive lineman who yea, his name escapes me right now,
Speaker 1: probably Paul Alexander's guy. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Um I would
Speaker 1: not have done that trade for the fiftieth pick. I
Speaker 1: think Connor Williams is going to be a stud I
Speaker 1: think this offensive line is set up to dominate. Think
Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna flourish behind them. And that goes back to
Speaker 1: my point. They are not young, They're they're experienced in
Speaker 1: the right places because they got a wealth of experience
Speaker 1: on that defensive line. They got the best offensive line
Speaker 1: in the league, and they're running back and quarterback by
Speaker 1: NFL standards, are experienced. You can't make that excuse for
Speaker 1: Dak and Zeke anymore. They're going into year three. The
Speaker 1: average NFL careers three years, you'd have made the trade.
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honestly. I love that tells me
Speaker 1: all I need to know if captain. If Captain Earl
Speaker 1: doesn't want to do it, because because no other guard,
Speaker 1: I don't think you guys know it better than me.
Speaker 1: No other guard would have come in and said, definitely
Speaker 1: he's the starting left guard. If you if you you
Speaker 1: could make the trade and then you just try to
Speaker 1: get that guy in the third, fourth round. I don't
Speaker 1: think you can get it that. The deal isn't dead
Speaker 1: with Earl. It's not dead unless somebody else makes the trade.
Speaker 1: You can still do something so it's not I mean,
Speaker 1: would you make that determination they have to do something?
Speaker 1: They I agree, that's a veteran somebody. People are like
Speaker 1: yelling at me on Twitter like it's my fault. I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do something. What do you want
Speaker 1: me to say? I'm completely over, Like I'm over what
Speaker 1: over earl over the safety discussion they should have done
Speaker 1: in the draft. Okay, it is what it is. We
Speaker 1: have what we have now. Well see, I don't think
Speaker 1: that's true though, because is it not true player acquisitions
Speaker 1: thirty Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but right now it is
Speaker 1: what I I bet you. I don't you think it's
Speaker 1: more likely that they add They're gonna add a safety
Speaker 1: to this group before they even go to camp. You're not.
Speaker 1: You're not going to camp with three true? All right,
Speaker 1: what's the what's the bigger needs? Safety or tight end?
Speaker 1: Right now? To go get a veteran safety? I think safety? Okay.
Speaker 1: I think I think Schultz is gonna be just fine. Myself.
Speaker 1: I think he's probably I think he is my Blake
Speaker 1: Jarwin if they don't move him to tackle, could could
Speaker 1: be the guy between the four tight ends. I think
Speaker 1: they can get the job done. I don't know who
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. But what about Swimmers? Yeah, I like,
Speaker 1: I think swim is an underrated player. I was actually
Speaker 1: I was looking at uh, you know these Derek don't
Speaker 1: be doing the hookham horns when he was drafted. You
Speaker 1: were like, who it's true? Yeah? Who is this Guy's?
Speaker 1: All right? I saw Derek. Derek was on the internet
Speaker 1: last night claiming the Rockets. I'm sure it was like
Speaker 1: the third game. Wait, wait, wait there he's I knew
Speaker 1: he was gonna get mad. He's a Rockets guy, like
Speaker 1: I know he is. He was watching Carl Herrera back
Speaker 1: in the day. I would like accounts, Sam. I wasn't
Speaker 1: trying to like make you sound really old. I would
Speaker 1: love account haircutt. You know he's looking pretty young. Now, Hey,
Speaker 1: Dustin Stanton is your former Cincinnati Bengal. Who's out here?
Speaker 1: There we go a new offensive lineman? Yeah, I stant
Speaker 1: call them? Yeah? Stand dude, why do we not work?
Speaker 1: So we're not worried about were the Xavier Woods can't
Speaker 1: do the job? No, I'm with you. Are you worried? Worried?
Speaker 1: I think they need to hurry up to because this
Speaker 1: whole before camp stuff. So the guy shows up right
Speaker 1: before camp, like, hey, I'm a veteran guy four years
Speaker 1: and you want me to be the leader. And then
Speaker 1: they're like, who's this guy? I mean, do it early
Speaker 1: so you can establish like that. I you know, some
Speaker 1: guys use his experience to him because if you just
Speaker 1: bring him in last minute, what's the point you're shaking
Speaker 1: your head over there. I just don't understand it. I don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I've heard there. I've heard there. Did
Speaker 1: they make enough moves before the draft at guard and
Speaker 1: tackle to make you feel like they could have taken
Speaker 1: to safety or made the straight Yes, but I'm not
Speaker 1: I can't hate on there. I can't hate I had
Speaker 1: Connor Williams above Vanderish on my top fifty. I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to tell you that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying though. I'm just saying though, I felt
Speaker 1: like that Connor Williams was going to be gone right
Speaker 1: by the time they picked it. FI. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to criticize their draft because I love the Connor Williams pick. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't like Justin Read at all, Like I did
Speaker 1: not like his tape. And then after like that's fair.
Speaker 1: After the third round, maybe you trade up to get
Speaker 1: ter various more, but that's not even the guy they
Speaker 1: were trying to trade up for. We found out later
Speaker 1: Armstrong and then after so after to various mor goes
Speaker 1: off the board. Who you want that's gonna make a
Speaker 1: difference anyway, you're just drafting another Xavier Woods at that
Speaker 1: we okay with the governor and making the decisions there
Speaker 1: or are we not believing that? Are we just? I
Speaker 1: think we're given. I think the governor made a governor
Speaker 1: abbot govern Texas made to sit. Yeah, yeah, he said, sit,
Speaker 1: you'll happen, work out what happen if we're going. You
Speaker 1: think if the governor said to do something they really
Speaker 1: didn't want to do, they'd do it. And I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Jerry listens a lot of people. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there's done other people in that room. You know that governor,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Let's say, let's see
Speaker 1: if let's see if Armstrong gets to one sixteen. He
Speaker 1: was right, He told him, I know you've been watching
Speaker 1: this for the last like eleven. It's been worth and
Speaker 1: will hang on a second? Well, gov, what do you think?
Speaker 1: I just you laugh, you laugh. One time we talked
Speaker 1: to uh, we talked to Stick Michael, the general manager
Speaker 1: of the Yankees, about a player. Oh they're taking that guy, yeah,
Speaker 1: true Henson. And I wanted to remind him that you
Speaker 1: got this guy Moron Rivera. That's so you're not used
Speaker 1: and once you put him in the game, he'll be
Speaker 1: good for you. Yeah. Hey, and that's what. That's one
Speaker 1: thing they said about Mike White and immediately thought of
Speaker 1: Drew Henson. He's a baseball player, but he's not really
Speaker 1: a baseball I played in high school. He wasn't a
Speaker 1: college guy who's trying. Now he's trying to play football.
Speaker 1: It's not the same. I think they're gonna be all
Speaker 1: right with this Mike White. He does throw ninety miles
Speaker 1: an hour. Though, Well, we're how do we get on
Speaker 1: Mike White? No, No, he was just stunt for Yeah.
Speaker 1: We're just kind of jumping around here. Try to control
Speaker 1: the show here, but there's no control to this show.
Speaker 1: I'm not hating on their draft. I just hate do
Speaker 1: something about safety. I saw that Taylor was supposed to
Speaker 1: go and interview players, and she's got a club in
Speaker 1: her hand. She's about to hit she's she's enthusiastic about
Speaker 1: the game. She's a new play. She's a new player.
Speaker 1: He's excited about the game of golf. She recently got
Speaker 1: into it. But she said she scored an eighty seven
Speaker 1: of the first time out. I said, listen, you and
Speaker 1: I need to win home. She clarified, No, no, no,
Speaker 1: she did. But when she said I shot an eighty seven,
Speaker 1: she said eighty seven. I went, listen, everybody need to quit.
Speaker 1: Everybody herring your bag. We'll get a sponsor. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: get one of my shady sponsors to come. And was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, happy Gilmore style. You should playing the
Speaker 1: way at nine. No, no, no, no, she's play right now.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the swinger. Jeremiah is getting the pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Taylor sturn on the tea, Oh oh oh yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: she said no. She said it was five to three
Speaker 1: and we're at the endings. Hey, I'm speaking of five.
Speaker 1: You see my guy James Paxon throwing no hitter last.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the man to be quiet there, nobody cares.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about you. Tweaked that stuff and I just
Speaker 1: immediately mute, which everybody should to begin with. That's your problem.
Speaker 1: Take was that strike too right there? Well she's taking him.
Speaker 1: Go back and listen to this, and no, she's not
Speaker 1: kick all our butts. She's got a good swing it.
Speaker 1: She said she shot eighty seven. Everybody was like whoa,
Speaker 1: I was. I was very Sergio shot eighty four. The
Speaker 1: Masters like wait a second. Yeah. Yeah. So she redid
Speaker 1: her math that night and it was like one thirty
Speaker 1: and then she added eighty seven more to it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what she did. She did text us later she's
Speaker 1: got the gool but the Gary player walk over steps
Speaker 1: shot y'all Gary player, Well, hey, hold on, PILs, you
Speaker 1: get after it, tay, Oh that was as my man
Speaker 1: as our guys. How does like Collins missed the hot
Speaker 1: dog hole like this was made for him. It's only
Speaker 1: ten o'clock and he's still going. He's going, Does that
Speaker 1: mean yeah, you REMI has had two Yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like me at the Masters eating those pimenta cheese sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I didn't punish that two bucks of sandwich. You're gonna
Speaker 1: punish a lot of them. Yeah, I hear you talk
Speaker 1: about that real quick. The experience of being at the Master,
Speaker 1: even if it was practice right. It was awesome. It's
Speaker 1: practice round. If you've ever had the opportunity, you ever
Speaker 1: get invited to go to Augusta, it's worth the trip.
Speaker 1: It's a good flight into Atlanta. Just drive over, see
Speaker 1: me angels playing harps in the trees or anything. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you what that is? Heaven right, it is.
Speaker 1: There's nothing out of place at that you want. Doesn't
Speaker 1: look like you all of a sudden you compare those
Speaker 1: these trees everywhere and then you just walk in and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, but it's it's the most green,
Speaker 1: lush place you've ever You're very like you eat your
Speaker 1: dinner off the grass. It's that. But I was standing
Speaker 1: at the at the sixteenth hole and watch Tiger and
Speaker 1: Phil and those guys all hit shots, and it's impressive.
Speaker 1: You would you don't imagine the the undulation? Am I
Speaker 1: using the right word? Undulation? Where did who taught you
Speaker 1: that I can't use it? You'd have to correct right
Speaker 1: if I wrote it for you? Sat stuff right, you
Speaker 1: have to correct it for me because I can't use
Speaker 1: it for any of my scouting reports because it's about
Speaker 1: punch and hips and good free hips out of you
Speaker 1: and You don't use undulation to talk about anybody unless
Speaker 1: his game has some undulation to it. Right down, you
Speaker 1: just say ups and dollars, right, you have you have
Speaker 1: to work that word in your next scouting report down.
Speaker 1: We have to all right, well, we got to scout
Speaker 1: report on when they trade for Earle and you bring
Speaker 1: in his career has not had undulation. It's been pretty steady, right,
Speaker 1: would would you rather like would you rather scampering police
Speaker 1: out here? Though? Yeah? That wasn't Nick said that. I did.
Speaker 1: Don't feel bad. It's already gone down the pike one time, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd rather give Kenny macaro four million dollars down the
Speaker 1: middle for the twenty eighteen season than give away a
Speaker 1: fature draft pick so much. I don't even Okay, we
Speaker 1: just gave four million dollars to a guide in line
Speaker 1: substitute trade Boston or Eric Reid. I don't care. Just
Speaker 1: give me an experienced arting safety who can come in
Speaker 1: here and cover Austin dude like to piss everyone off.
Speaker 1: I don't picked off about six passes. He I don't
Speaker 1: know what any of these safeties did. I mean, other
Speaker 1: than you know, people who know stuff tell me that
Speaker 1: the position is not as valuable as it used to be.
Speaker 1: You don't make a difference. You don't need the banger safety,
Speaker 1: the banger safety the guy that it's the hitter because
Speaker 1: of the rules. That's fair. But like they can cover two,
Speaker 1: they can cover better. Safeties can cover. They can cover
Speaker 1: better than nobody. J Wilcox, They can cover better than nobody,
Speaker 1: Which is what you got right now. He sucking win
Speaker 1: through his teeth when I said that, literally don't have
Speaker 1: enough safeties to field a fifty three man Rods. I like,
Speaker 1: I like JJ, and JJ was good in a package
Speaker 1: of plays for twenty thirty snaps a game when he
Speaker 1: was your starting free safety. That didn't work out right, right,
Speaker 1: and they you know so? And maybe that's the case
Speaker 1: with the Xavier Woods. We'll find out is he better
Speaker 1: with a certain amount of place well or can he
Speaker 1: play sixty snaps? Haven't these safeties? Haven't these safeties been
Speaker 1: better when they've played in kind of like a free
Speaker 1: man platoon over the last where they rotating where they
Speaker 1: all played thirty plays a game, they're better than when
Speaker 1: they play. Yeah, cave On earned that by the end
Speaker 1: of the season last year. I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: She's been on this and you know what, and we've
Speaker 1: all kind of like got out on the break. Me
Speaker 1: and Amber have been harped on this since February. Oh
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's ridiculous when people start tweeting
Speaker 1: at us yea at the break or on me and
Speaker 1: talking about this whole safety situation and then decide to
Speaker 1: tag the players themselves, start tagging Xavier Woods. I'm calm down, Like,
Speaker 1: if you have eyes, you can see what's going on.
Speaker 1: So now I don't know how you justify things. Good point.
Speaker 1: I will say this. When they drafted Vanderesh, Yeah, Jerry
Speaker 1: said he's the type of guy and maybe he's not
Speaker 1: going to be this right off the bat, but he's
Speaker 1: a type of guy that can help all three levels
Speaker 1: of your defense where you don't necessarily have to have
Speaker 1: a big, sloppy nose tackle to eat up space. Maybe
Speaker 1: you can help the back end of your defense. And
Speaker 1: you know, if they sign a guy like Terroll McClain,
Speaker 1: who scheduled to come in this week, yeah that helps
Speaker 1: you too. So all right, the better you're overall, the
Speaker 1: better your overall defense is. Maybe you don't have to
Speaker 1: go get a superstar safety. All right, let me ask
Speaker 1: you that Rob just brought the point. Roll McClain, you
Speaker 1: gotta welcome him back playing defensive tackle. Yeah, because what
Speaker 1: happened when Collins Lee Collins, When Malie Collins was playing
Speaker 1: next to Tarroll McClain, I think he was playing some
Speaker 1: of his best football. Now, last year injury was a problem,
Speaker 1: But I tell you, I thought he was playing some
Speaker 1: of his best football. But here you're fighting a couple
Speaker 1: of teams. Now you're fighting the Dolphins. You're fighting though
Speaker 1: maybe maybe it's home. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, he loves
Speaker 1: I mean, he loves the those guys on that defensive line.
Speaker 1: And he had the best season of his career. Yes
Speaker 1: he did. All right, Well, see, Taylor Stern has picked
Speaker 1: up the headset. In the morning, we're gonna see if
Speaker 1: we can get Lyle Collins over here. All right, table
Speaker 1: is picked up, she's got the wireless mike, the at
Speaker 1: and t wireless mike, and she's gonna walk down to
Speaker 1: the tea and see if she gets Lyle on the mic.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to him about LSU. I don't care
Speaker 1: about the boys. He can't hear you only yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: you cant with fire him some questions, but it's good.
Speaker 1: We gonna see if we get Le Collins again. He's
Speaker 1: what should I ask him as I'm walking up here,
Speaker 1: is ask him? Of course, you gotta talk about the
Speaker 1: golf game and talk about how great Lsu is and
Speaker 1: ask him about ask him if we can get get
Speaker 1: on a fishing trip with him. Saw that on a
Speaker 1: fish and yeah, he's probably a lot better he He
Speaker 1: probably wants to wet a line in one of these
Speaker 1: serious ponds out here instead of this dude told me
Speaker 1: he fishes every day. Yeah, like I mean, I wish
Speaker 1: I could do the same with him. I wish I
Speaker 1: need to take him out. I need to take him
Speaker 1: out there with me out in East Texas? What was
Speaker 1: they fishing for? Catfish? Catfish or nothing? Yeah? Ticking me
Speaker 1: up for that cat Did neat catfish? Did he say cats?
Speaker 1: I love cat said catfish? Or nasty their bottom fiers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there you cook him up right? Catfish are around
Speaker 1: a poor boy day. Come on over. Okay, we got Lyle,
Speaker 1: We got right, Tay. It's all you, Taylor, Lyole Collins.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows best golfer on the team. How have you
Speaker 1: been hitting them? Today. I appreciate that compliment, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, LC has been it's been an uphill battle. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, but we're just gonna take it one swing
Speaker 1: at a time. Yeah. I mean, you know, you're wearing
Speaker 1: the pink shirt, which says you're confident in your game.
Speaker 1: You're calling yourself a third person. What are the predictions
Speaker 1: of today? Look good? Feel good? You know, not playing
Speaker 1: as good, but predictions. I think my team we're gonna
Speaker 1: finish strong. We're gonna knock these next couple holes out,
Speaker 1: and you know it's gonna keep fighting to the end. Okay,
Speaker 1: so about three less than three months until we're at
Speaker 1: training camp, you're ready to be back to the grind.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's what I do, That's what I
Speaker 1: love to do. I can't wait to get back to it.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited. It's gonna be a great year. Tay.
Speaker 1: Could you ask him about it if he's excited now
Speaker 1: that here they draft a tackle or draft a guard
Speaker 1: and now he gets to play the tackle. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you know, Connor Williams coming in here, Texas boy, you're
Speaker 1: the Louisiana state guy. Now you get to officially play tackle.
Speaker 1: You pumped about that. Oh, you know, I'm excited. You know,
Speaker 1: I feel like I played against the best guys in
Speaker 1: the league last year, so you know, it's only a
Speaker 1: step of stone for this next year. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Scott's the limit. This sky is the limit. So what
Speaker 1: are the things you got going on that this offseason?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be an offseason award winner? All right?
Speaker 1: You know that's what That's what everybody's striving for. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know we got a great group of guys that
Speaker 1: uh that's up there too, So you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: gotta meet the standard, gotta come hard. So and that's
Speaker 1: what we've been doing, been working. So we'll see how
Speaker 1: it all stakes up. Can we go fishing with him sometimes? Yeah? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm ready to see you replace Witten in the middle
Speaker 1: of the huddle. You know, Witting now gone. I think
Speaker 1: it should be you. What do you think? I like that?
Speaker 1: I like that. You know, the standard is hut here,
Speaker 1: so you know we're only gonna keep raising the bar. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: the bar is high. All right. So when we're not golfing,
Speaker 1: can you and I go on a fishing trip one time?
Speaker 1: Because I've you know, I've seen the pictures. I know
Speaker 1: about this, and we won't bring Dave Helmet. Make sure
Speaker 1: Dave Helmet is not there. Only done. Anybody want to
Speaker 1: go fishing? Oh I get we have to do it
Speaker 1: another time. But anybody else I want to go? We
Speaker 1: could go hit up your boy LC at LC's fishing. Baby,
Speaker 1: let's go get it. Is that a real thing? All right?
Speaker 1: We'll let you get back to your your stunnerd group here.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, Well Taylor, that was so much job,
Speaker 1: so thorowerful. No, Dave, you know he said he wanted
Speaker 1: a private lsu one. Oh yeah, all right, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't do that. We'll take a great job on the
Speaker 1: interview there. That's the way to the standard is high,
Speaker 1: as he say, standard is high though, and maybe not
Speaker 1: for the golf game, but standard high for him at
Speaker 1: the right tackles. I bet I bet he loved that.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams pick, Yeah, bet he loved it. He should.
Speaker 1: I got, I got enough fight about him yesterday, Like
Speaker 1: I just I mean, I think this guy is the
Speaker 1: limit for him, and I think he got better and
Speaker 1: better as last season went on. Yeah, I mean the
Speaker 1: first first four or five weeks of the season was
Speaker 1: the learning process. I thought he was damn good down
Speaker 1: from October onward, especially when you consider he was fighting
Speaker 1: a back injury most of the time. It's actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: he got better. And he actually told us he trusted
Speaker 1: his technique more and was more sound that way when
Speaker 1: he wasn't when he was hurt, which is kind of odd,
Speaker 1: but hey, whatever works for you, right, And he said
Speaker 1: it too. The guys that he went against last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh my gosh. I'll tell you what that
Speaker 1: Khalil mac matchup was. I mean, it got he got
Speaker 1: to the point they kicked Mack to the other side.
Speaker 1: If you remember, late in the game, Byron Bill had
Speaker 1: to go in for Tyron Smith and they said, we're
Speaker 1: gonna rush him on the other side, just to get
Speaker 1: away from wild Collins, giving him a chance to have
Speaker 1: a whole offseason at the same position, work with the
Speaker 1: same people in the same spot. I like, I think
Speaker 1: the sky's the limit. I think he's gonna be great
Speaker 1: over there, which and I'll readily admit, you know, like
Speaker 1: I always say, like, I try to offer my opinion
Speaker 1: and analysis as often as possible, but I'm trying to
Speaker 1: tell people listening to us what the front office thinks,
Speaker 1: and for so long the front office was convinced that
Speaker 1: he needed to play a guard, They just they changed
Speaker 1: their minds. And it looks like a hell of a
Speaker 1: smart call at this point, because I think he could
Speaker 1: be even better at a more important position and a
Speaker 1: tackle than he was a guard. Okay, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a little bit of a break here. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get into some more talk. Hopefully we'll have
Speaker 1: some more players come through. It's nice to talk to
Speaker 1: a while Collins Byron Jones, and so hopefully we'll have
Speaker 1: some more information. So stay tuned, we'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: dame bag. Now, Jaylen Smith has got a huge leper
Speaker 1: con head for his driver. Wouldn't I didn't see any
Speaker 1: Uh didn't see leper cons on that pack? What's no, no,
Speaker 1: we got we got the whole bags the Irish back
Speaker 1: so we gotta get jail one of those and it
Speaker 1: would get myself a head cover. Does it mean that
Speaker 1: you're really a good player if you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff on their back? Yeah, the more stuff the better.
Speaker 1: I like to get a lot of towels. I leave
Speaker 1: all my tags from like, oh, man, you've played there,
Speaker 1: you played there? I've played there. But uh, now, how
Speaker 1: you guys playing today? Uh? As a group, we're good.
Speaker 1: We got a couple of ringers. I think we're Uh.
Speaker 1: I think we were four or five under on the
Speaker 1: front on the nine, first nine. So so what group
Speaker 1: you're playing with today? I'm with Albertson. There you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, and good for them. Yeah, we got some
Speaker 1: good players. So that's what you gonna do. String some
Speaker 1: birdies together. There you go. We talked about guys and
Speaker 1: when they joined the Cowboys, you kind of pick up golf.
Speaker 1: Is this something you've done for a while growing up?
Speaker 1: Or no? Actually I started playing maybe like later into
Speaker 1: college and then um, in the off season down here.
Speaker 1: We come out here to this course and play not
Speaker 1: as much this year, but in years past, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe get out here once a week or so. Um,
Speaker 1: but they take care of us out here. Is this
Speaker 1: day more fun? When you know what you're doing, like
Speaker 1: in terms of like I I don't I can't play
Speaker 1: golf to save Yeah, no I'm not good. But like like,
Speaker 1: let's say, compared to like a Tyrant Smith, Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: having probably more fun. Yeah. Actually we were literally just
Speaker 1: talking to your to your buddy LC on your right side.
Speaker 1: Based on what they did in the draft, it sounds
Speaker 1: like he's gonna be there again this year. For you,
Speaker 1: I mean for him obviously, but for you too. What
Speaker 1: does that mean just to have that continuity? Yeah, it's huge.
Speaker 1: You know, I know Elc loved playing out there, you
Speaker 1: know he did. I thought he did an awesome job
Speaker 1: for first time playing out there at tackle in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's nice going into a season no
Speaker 1: one who you're gonna play, play with, no one that
Speaker 1: you're gonna get a second year or another year with
Speaker 1: a guy and continue to grow as linemates. So I'm
Speaker 1: really excited for him to be out there. What about
Speaker 1: from you guys? From a I'm not guessing that you
Speaker 1: have breakdowns of University of Texas tape on Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: You didn't necessarily didn't follow him, but when you see
Speaker 1: the Cowboys invest a second round pick in the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Does that excite you guys? MS? Definitely. And I don't
Speaker 1: know much about him, but it sounds like he's, you know,
Speaker 1: good player, really eager to come in and work. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's what our group's all about, is working,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he'll fit in just fine. All right,
Speaker 1: I'll ask are we getting close? I was waiting. I
Speaker 1: was like, are we talking about gold? I mean? This
Speaker 1: is this? Yeah? Working on it for a while, is that?
Speaker 1: I mean? Obviously, football season is one thing you got
Speaker 1: stuff to worry about. It on a day by day
Speaker 1: basis more relaxed atmosphere of the offseason. Do you check
Speaker 1: in on how that's going more often? Are you just
Speaker 1: kind of wait and see a little bit. It's been
Speaker 1: better after we started started up, just having everyone back
Speaker 1: and kind of getting into a routine. You don't think
Speaker 1: about it as much. So, um, the last few weeks
Speaker 1: have been way easier for me than the early off
Speaker 1: season when you really have nothing to do. So right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about about Jason Witten moving
Speaker 1: on here? Just your thoughts about a guy you know
Speaker 1: you came in. Everybody seems to look up to him
Speaker 1: in the locker room though, just your thoughts on on
Speaker 1: on seeing him a head to the broadcast. But now, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's um, you know, it's it's been weird
Speaker 1: already not having him in there because he's been such
Speaker 1: a staple obviously, and um, you know, unfortunately I got
Speaker 1: to play with him for four years, but I feel
Speaker 1: lucky to be able to play with him for war
Speaker 1: years and learned from him. And um, I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys know him. He's gonna be missed more than anyone.
Speaker 1: But you know some of us are gonna have to
Speaker 1: step up and kind of take that leadership role. And
Speaker 1: I know we're ready for by leadership. Is it? Is
Speaker 1: it vocal or is it just by example? Because you guys,
Speaker 1: I'm by with the line. You guys kind of set
Speaker 1: the stand, right. I think Whintin was the best example
Speaker 1: of that. You know, he you couldn't ask for a
Speaker 1: better leader by example, but when something needed to be said,
Speaker 1: he stepped up and said it. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I think we just keep doing what we're doing and
Speaker 1: show that example. But maybe at different times when we
Speaker 1: had to step up and say something, well exactly there
Speaker 1: you gotta go play some golf. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate your time. And uh yeah, that's an
Speaker 1: all pro guard. Zack Martin spend a little time with
Speaker 1: this sake, nothing but nothing at all. Yeah, Nick, Nick
Speaker 1: tried to get it out of here. We're we're on,
Speaker 1: but a bunch of pansies with with the softballs came
Speaker 1: in with the fastball about five questions. The implier just
Speaker 1: went right in there. He did not There was no
Speaker 1: implying is it done close? It's it's it is. It's
Speaker 1: funny because I mean, you know, I think y'all would
Speaker 1: probably agree that we've been waiting for that news for
Speaker 1: more than we were kind of hoping we had a
Speaker 1: scoop right there. Well, yeah, it would have been nice.
Speaker 1: Zach Martin is way too smart to give us something
Speaker 1: like that. But I don't know, y'all. I regardless of
Speaker 1: if he did, we would be out here every year.
Speaker 1: This is laptop you know what in the afternoon, Why
Speaker 1: don't I'll just stay out in the afternoon, you know,
Speaker 1: talk about doing a draft show for eighteen hours. We'd
Speaker 1: be here from seven to seven. That's exactly what we'd
Speaker 1: be doing. It's funny because as much as longer as
Speaker 1: it's gone on than I thought it would, I still
Speaker 1: have no doubt in my mind whatsoever that is. They
Speaker 1: need to do the right deal for him, though, Yeah
Speaker 1: this guy is he there's some guards in this in
Speaker 1: this league though that he is clearly better wash. Who's
Speaker 1: the guy in Jacksonville that got the deal? Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of resets the market. I would imagine, maybe
Speaker 1: made one pro bowl up and do this before he
Speaker 1: before another guy comes in and make it all his money.
Speaker 1: Go look at freaking go look at the books now
Speaker 1: with Dez and witting off of it like they got
Speaker 1: the space to do whatever the hell they want. So
Speaker 1: that's I'm not sweating it. Whether it's tomorrow, July August
Speaker 1: or next February. You guys got that story already written
Speaker 1: in your mind or you've already got it on on
Speaker 1: a I think I probably wrote some grass on it
Speaker 1: last summer thinking it might get done, you know, because
Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen those deals get done a year early.
Speaker 1: On the offensive line, we saw Tyran, Travis anybody else
Speaker 1: get done early. You've got you know, Tacos extension, I
Speaker 1: got that, yeah, get But I think he wants to
Speaker 1: be here. They want him that you can sit here.
Speaker 1: You can point to like d Law or David Irving
Speaker 1: and be like, well, the two sides probably don't agree.
Speaker 1: Like this could last until maybe the franchise tags can
Speaker 1: get involved. I don't think that is an issue with
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. I think it's just a matter. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a it's gonna be a pretty extensive deal. No,
Speaker 1: it will. But I mean, but do you have any
Speaker 1: doubt that it gets done whatsoever? No? I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why do Why are you gonna come say hi? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I thought you already came through here. He's always play
Speaker 1: Oh yes, okay, what's up? Tyron Crawford. Finally I'm able
Speaker 1: to say your name kind of Tyrone? Tyrone? You see
Speaker 1: a name? Is that a tough one? Yeah? You always
Speaker 1: talk about high pronounce his name? You pronounce it Tyrone?
Speaker 1: Which is that's the other game. It's the guy across
Speaker 1: from him. Well, you guys can go ahead and give
Speaker 1: him welcome, although he's already sweating. Yeah, that's hot out.
Speaker 1: How's it going out there? Well? For me, um, you're
Speaker 1: not the best, But for my team, we're doing pretty good.
Speaker 1: So who are you playing with? Today. Who Who's who they?
Speaker 1: Who's who's yours? I'll tell you what. There you go,
Speaker 1: Yeah you got it down. Yeah, those guys so a
Speaker 1: lot and they play a lot of golf, so that
Speaker 1: that always helps. Bro. You know, Um, it doesn't show.
Speaker 1: It does definitely doesn't show. But you know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know they're they're backed by a good brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know, I'm just gonna go with that for now.
Speaker 1: But umall you had a breath. I mean, do they
Speaker 1: not let you write the card? Well, they had me
Speaker 1: pushing it earlier. Weight so they're like, hey, I heard
Speaker 1: about we were asking the hot dog. You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, eating apples and stuff like he's giving me
Speaker 1: this unrealistic waight, um, which I'm gonna You're gonna play
Speaker 1: safety there, you're the strong safety. Um you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could do it. I mean they probably
Speaker 1: they might. They might say, hey, Teren, you're playing safety
Speaker 1: this year and h like I've done everything else. Yeah
Speaker 1: that would be fun for the course for you. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how it goes, man, That's the way she goes.
Speaker 1: That's what we say in Canada. Yeah, does it feel
Speaker 1: weird being the old head on this team. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was definitely weird, but I mean it's it's kind
Speaker 1: of cool in a sense too, you know, just because
Speaker 1: I guess there's respect with h so you know, you
Speaker 1: get that little bit of respect and around around the
Speaker 1: locker room, and so that's cool. We just asked Zach.
Speaker 1: He just came by and he said, it's already weird
Speaker 1: without Jason here? Is it workouts? Is it just like
Speaker 1: where is he looking around? Yeah? Yeah, it's like who
Speaker 1: do you go to? You know? But I guess that's
Speaker 1: my people are probably coming to you man. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So now you know, like we're me Zach and you
Speaker 1: know Sean Lee, you know the guy Travis. Are the
Speaker 1: guys that you know, guys are coming up to for
Speaker 1: the questions that we used to ask with and I
Speaker 1: guess we can answer them. But it was it's a
Speaker 1: little different. So do they bring you in d law
Speaker 1: into the war room when they're picking these boys, you guys,
Speaker 1: or like what's the deal there? No? I think they
Speaker 1: just know, you know, what type of guys they are,
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, you know what they're gonna bring
Speaker 1: to the table and how they're gonna practice and how
Speaker 1: they're gonna be, you know, as far as being accountable.
Speaker 1: So in pros you, I mean you've got You're a
Speaker 1: guy with a lot of school pride. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you go on the road on Saturdays, you're probably
Speaker 1: watching Boise, you know, in the hotel or whatever. So
Speaker 1: I mean you're pretty familiar with vander esh Or No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I've watched him play. Um, I don't like
Speaker 1: I'm not. I I met him for the first time
Speaker 1: right before the draft. Oh yeah, yeah, and I actually
Speaker 1: told him. I was like, yeah, I hope we get
Speaker 1: you man. Funny how that works out. You know. Well, listen,
Speaker 1: we know you got to go play golf. So thank
Speaker 1: you so much for guy right here. That's some talent
Speaker 1: right there. Now that's a trick. Guys got a driver
Speaker 1: on the end of his nose. Well done, that's good.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you very much for stopping. Always appreciate it.
Speaker 1: And best look out there today. I remember, all right,
Speaker 1: get a hot dog, apple or something. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what to out of breath. I think he had to
Speaker 1: push the car just a bunch of hands, I mean,
Speaker 1: walking the course the hell of a way to it's
Speaker 1: getting hot out there. Yeah, very happy. Yeah, right here,
Speaker 1: struggling in the shade hours. You know, I was much.
Speaker 1: I was told over there as I was getting my cider,
Speaker 1: I was told that, uh, that tent is actually for us,
Speaker 1: but we haven't. We didn't put that one out. We
Speaker 1: have a tent, but you know the tree covers is
Speaker 1: We're good, good, I'm fine, We're good, We're good here,
Speaker 1: We're good. Here? Are you good? With the sun just
Speaker 1: bearing down on the side of your left side of
Speaker 1: your face? Not really, but you know what I'm about
Speaker 1: about five seconds is gonna be over here? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you kind of detect though? He's just hey, keep
Speaker 1: moving me around bit. You know, he's got done with
Speaker 1: them his whole career. Kid play tackle like looking like that,
Speaker 1: not looking like that. They're gonna try there, they're slimming
Speaker 1: him down. He's gonna be an end. Did he say
Speaker 1: what he was? And I saw David Irving and he's
Speaker 1: a tackle. Yeah, yeah, he should be an end. And
Speaker 1: I know I know that they signed him to that
Speaker 1: deal to play three technique and then they kicked up
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, he started off as a left
Speaker 1: end and now he's and then yeah, and he and
Speaker 1: he's he's so he's hit all the spot He's played
Speaker 1: every spot on that line. I mean he has, but
Speaker 1: I know he's not. He's out the fifteen sack DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence guy. But I thought he had a pretty solid
Speaker 1: season last year. I don't is is he one of
Speaker 1: those players that the fans really misevaluate, have a hard
Speaker 1: time with. I can't say know how much money that
Speaker 1: he makes. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna say
Speaker 1: they misseevaluate him. It's purely just price tag. If he
Speaker 1: was making three million a year, people would love him
Speaker 1: because he would be an unsung do everything captain guy.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's he's just Brandon Carr. He's just branding.
Speaker 1: Well any solid player who is paid to be an
Speaker 1: all press And he has played through some stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: he's had some shot injuries. He's played through it and
Speaker 1: and he's a guy. You know, when they moved him
Speaker 1: to the right end, I felt like the run defense
Speaker 1: those first couple of games, like Denver, Yeah, struggling big time.
Speaker 1: When they moved him over, I think something kind of
Speaker 1: changed that. Yeah, team teams were teams were kind of
Speaker 1: like taking the ball to that out of me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you look at what was going on, you know,
Speaker 1: they just didn't have the power on that that right
Speaker 1: side to kind of hold things up. He had four
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, He's good against the run, he's
Speaker 1: a team captain, I mean, and honestly, I made this
Speaker 1: argument a couple of months ago. Yes, by the strict
Speaker 1: letter of the word, he's overpaid, but with all the
Speaker 1: new deals that have come since he signed that deal,
Speaker 1: it's I mean, he's not even in the top like
Speaker 1: twelve highest paid defensive lineman in the league. He's it's
Speaker 1: a very average and they and they did that deal
Speaker 1: at the time so he doesn't hit the market and
Speaker 1: gets god knows how much. You know, what was gonna
Speaker 1: happen to d Laws that gets free at some point.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the you know, that the
Speaker 1: defensive line some young guys, you know, I mean, we
Speaker 1: always were trying to figure out what with Tapper, what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with him? Well, and then you know
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory as well, you know as well, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know he's talking about reinstatements of hearing. Well, I
Speaker 1: think there's so much unknown on this defensive line, right
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you, each one of you, if
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory gets reinstated, I mean, is that something you're
Speaker 1: excited for? Oh yeah, yeah, him to play around? Like
Speaker 1: you said, you gave it, you gave it the hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: go for it. The question what was the question you're
Speaker 1: excited about him playing? I mean because people keep asking
Speaker 1: why if he's reinstated, I don't think you ever will
Speaker 1: play another snap for the Cowboy. Let me ask why
Speaker 1: don't you have to lose nothing? But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I'm not excited. I'm not gonna get excited. I think
Speaker 1: you have tox and elite talent to this defensive. I
Speaker 1: think you have to operate under the premise that he's
Speaker 1: not going to help you. But it's you. It's it's
Speaker 1: icing on the cake. If he comes in and can
Speaker 1: give you a few snaps again next year. You know
Speaker 1: how he not played foot a long time, a long time.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Like like, like Dave said,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the high expectations for it, but but
Speaker 1: he's such a natural athlete that less expectations of him
Speaker 1: or Tapper. If if Randy Gregory's on this team and
Speaker 1: and keeping himself in line, and yeah, and not being
Speaker 1: played that one game. He wasn't bad. Use really did
Speaker 1: play one game. So let's put it this way, Randy
Speaker 1: Gregory screwed up the development of their defensive line with
Speaker 1: everything that happened to him. But they've they've recorrected the problem.
Speaker 1: They've recorrected DeMarcus Lawrence has blossomed into what they wanted
Speaker 1: him to be. Tyrone Crawford is a solid starter, Malie
Speaker 1: Collins is a solid starter, and David Irving is like
Speaker 1: another Randy Gregory, except he's actually producing. Like you've got
Speaker 1: a good foundation there. You've brought in coney Eally, You've
Speaker 1: got Charles Tapper trying to be healthy. Uh, you're hoping
Speaker 1: Taco can develop in year. Tod Ward where you playing him?
Speaker 1: Scott Reports going up today on say they've they've they've
Speaker 1: made decisions to replace him. Basically if he comes in,
Speaker 1: if he comes in and can earn a spot, great,
Speaker 1: but they're not counting on him at this point. Really,
Speaker 1: not two years ago, he was messing with everything you
Speaker 1: were trying to do on your pass rush. Now he's
Speaker 1: just the ninth or tenth guy. And if he can
Speaker 1: come in and play well enough to make the team
Speaker 1: give bring it on because he's got elite talent. That
Speaker 1: was I know why you're asking that. It's a great
Speaker 1: question because there I mean dark questions. Can he come
Speaker 1: in and be a pro and stay on this football
Speaker 1: team and stay active. I mean there's legitimate questions about that.
Speaker 1: Obviously he was a good football who said he wasn't
Speaker 1: getting on he was a good football player. Okay, so
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, you know, you're you take the
Speaker 1: approach that Nick ass. Here's my question to you guys.
Speaker 1: When is the last time? When is the last time
Speaker 1: a pass rusher in the NFL sat out for two
Speaker 1: years and came back and was what he was before.
Speaker 1: That's only one year, Dwight Dwight Freeney maybe, I don't know,
Speaker 1: two years. It was one year he came spent a
Speaker 1: year and a half. He played. Since he played, he
Speaker 1: played like a couple of Yeah, like he didn't play
Speaker 1: very much. He didn't play very much. And my point
Speaker 1: is like, you don't know what is what his ability
Speaker 1: is at this point, he's been out of football for
Speaker 1: a while. I just would like to I'd be happy
Speaker 1: to find out why he wants to come in, and
Speaker 1: why see, if he can earn a spot, why did
Speaker 1: this team take a chance on Demantre Moore's good point?
Speaker 1: Is it not? They were a star for pass rushing,
Speaker 1: and your point was that they got some Now, Greg
Speaker 1: Hardy sat out a year, right, a year? Yes, he
Speaker 1: sat out a complete year? Yeah? Right? Was Randy ever
Speaker 1: as good as as as Greg Hardy was at that
Speaker 1: point after before he sat out? No, No, he's got one,
Speaker 1: he's got one career second though, No, yeah, I'm not Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not worth The issues are yeah, the issues are
Speaker 1: the issues. I'm just saying, if he sat out for
Speaker 1: that much time and he already had never developed at
Speaker 1: the point when he went out to being just a
Speaker 1: great pass rusher, then what makes you think he's gonna
Speaker 1: come back and all of a sudden be great? Wow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Nick's ready for Chatti mcgleton over here, get on the
Speaker 1: show or don't. Yeah. Yeah, So you're gonna say now
Speaker 1: that you're passionate. The point is, and it's I wish
Speaker 1: the best for him, I guess the point is going
Speaker 1: back to what Amber said, I'm not excited for it
Speaker 1: because I don't I don't expect much, right, Now let's
Speaker 1: if you you bring him in, you see what happens.
Speaker 1: But I think your point, Dave, when you were reigning
Speaker 1: naming off all those guys, I don't even think he
Speaker 1: makes this team right now. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I think it'd be hard for him to make this
Speaker 1: team that Well, that goes back to my point, Derek,
Speaker 1: what do you have to lose? You're right, you're right.
Speaker 1: What do you have to gain? Yes, you're right about that.
Speaker 1: You have a guy with top ten talent to game.
Speaker 1: You have absolutely nothing to lose, right, you're right about that.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is her point was are you excited?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I'm not excited because I don't
Speaker 1: expect anything. You see what happens, right, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: taking a flyer. I'm intrigued. Okay, that's fine. There's nothing
Speaker 1: to lose anymore. Two years ago, if he gets suspended,
Speaker 1: you don't have a right end. Now if he gets suspended,
Speaker 1: you're like about expectations, right, you know you have. My
Speaker 1: expectations are very low, and Dave is like, Dave's taking
Speaker 1: the scouting approaches. Hey, what what do we gotta We
Speaker 1: brought in Ryan leaf at the end of that whole thing.
Speaker 1: Look at what these guys have done to get pass rushers.
Speaker 1: They've taken chances on I mentioned greg Hardy. They paid,
Speaker 1: but they're a better position now than they were when
Speaker 1: they take those chances. They are, but you can never
Speaker 1: have enough, You're right, and Stephen Jones told us that
Speaker 1: the combine. Look, they have no expectation, like you just
Speaker 1: said for Gregory, Like they're operating like he's not coming
Speaker 1: back because they have to. But he's twenty five years old.
Speaker 1: It's not like he'd be coming back and he's thirty
Speaker 1: three thirty four is big on the downside of his career.
Speaker 1: But you do have to develop him though, right, I
Speaker 1: mean that's the point. He wasn't completely developed where he
Speaker 1: left and he's been out of football. So if he's
Speaker 1: gonna come back, you really are investing a couple of
Speaker 1: years and getting him to the point where you think
Speaker 1: he can really play for you. Some figure out what
Speaker 1: is his priority. It's priority football? Are you done with
Speaker 1: all of everything else? Yeah, that's fair. I'm taking a
Speaker 1: chance on the guy, like Amber says, a guy it's
Speaker 1: trying to hurt his life around. Well, I think that
Speaker 1: I think there is. I think that to me is
Speaker 1: the you know, he's got to prove things. He's got
Speaker 1: to prove it to himself, he's got to prove it
Speaker 1: to the team. I'm gonna take a chance on a
Speaker 1: guy like that. I don't think there's going to be
Speaker 1: a relapse if he don't either, I don't know about that.
Speaker 1: But he's he sees how important football is and too,
Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can get to the point
Speaker 1: where he's reinstated by the league and then gets through
Speaker 1: a training camp successfully with no mishaps. Yeah, then that
Speaker 1: says a lot to me about what he's prioritizing. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you live and learn, and I do. I
Speaker 1: give him the benefit of the doubt that if he's
Speaker 1: if he's trying to do the right things, I want
Speaker 1: to see him do the right things. And I'm talking
Speaker 1: more just from a football perspective. My expectations are low. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: people can't have him. You can't have him at this,
Speaker 1: I guess. And but the thing about it is how
Speaker 1: many more chances is he gonna get? You know, if
Speaker 1: he comes back, and if he is reinstated, this is
Speaker 1: probably it for him. So hey, you take one more chance,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't work out. You've already put contingencies in
Speaker 1: place on this roster, Coney Eely, He's a contingency on
Speaker 1: this roster. Well, wet, I gotta see. Got a special
Speaker 1: guest coming. Uh, gonna sit down in our little interview
Speaker 1: chair here, I think behind me here there he's got
Speaker 1: He's got the victory cigar. He lit us is the
Speaker 1: back nine? Yeah, how well? How is it? How's it going?
Speaker 1: How's the how's it been on the front nine then
Speaker 1: to the turn? Yeah, I'm opening this back nine is
Speaker 1: much better than me. Uh, it's going. It's going well.
Speaker 1: I'm hitting the ball every time, So we're making progress.
Speaker 1: You know, are you having to chase it a lot?
Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it kind of standing where you're
Speaker 1: hitting it. We'll have a good caddy. I just play
Speaker 1: it that way. They're they're worth their weight in gold
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, I'm having to chase it that much,
Speaker 1: but I'm hitting in the fairway for the most part.
Speaker 1: We've been asking everybody. I mean, and I mean you're
Speaker 1: a guy that you kind of picked up golf after
Speaker 1: you got here, about how how has that relationship grown
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years? No, it's definitely grown.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of falling in love with the game. All
Speaker 1: it takes you. You hit one good shot and you
Speaker 1: get addicted. I've hit a couple of good shots today,
Speaker 1: played a little bit yesterday trying to warm up for today. So, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm getting better. I'm definitely improving. I need quit being
Speaker 1: stubbing to just take lessons. You know, Yeah, you haven't
Speaker 1: take it. You haven't taken lessons, No, I haven't. As
Speaker 1: I mean also said, I I hit a good ball
Speaker 1: and I feel like I can figure it out myself.
Speaker 1: And so when you're a good enough athlete that you
Speaker 1: play in the NFL, I feel like stuff just kind
Speaker 1: of comes naturally to you. Right, Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: like to think anyways. And when you know, when you
Speaker 1: take lessons or you hear something from some person, they
Speaker 1: tell you something different from the last person. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking lessons for somebody to change everything up.
Speaker 1: But who knows, maybe one of these days going for fishing.
Speaker 1: Fishing much better? Yeah, yeah, the fishing figure it out
Speaker 1: that yeah, much better that all right? So you told
Speaker 1: us a couple of weeks ago you talked to something
Speaker 1: for Albertson's at the facility. You said, you're down like
Speaker 1: five ten pounds, but you're gonna go back up for
Speaker 1: training camp. Dude, Like, I think you're under selling it,
Speaker 1: Like you look lean as hell. Man. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: mean I'm down five or ten, but then you know,
Speaker 1: I just put it back on. I've already put something
Speaker 1: back on the right way. So I mean I played
Speaker 1: a problem around two thirty eight to two forty last
Speaker 1: year and I'm two thirty right now. So I mean
Speaker 1: I just but I was down to two twenty five
Speaker 1: or less at one point, but I've already put something
Speaker 1: back on and just put it on the right way.
Speaker 1: So what is that? I mean we talk about that
Speaker 1: all the time with Lineman. What does that do for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it does everything. I'm I mean, I'm faster,
Speaker 1: I'm stronger, weight room, all my numbers went up, throwing
Speaker 1: the ball better. Um, it's just allows you to be
Speaker 1: your best athlete. You can be. The simple simple fact
Speaker 1: of that of just losing losing the baby fat or
Speaker 1: just losing the fact that really you know what i mean,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So it's just about now building it back up,
Speaker 1: building it all and hustle, making sure I'm leaning more flexible,
Speaker 1: being the best athlete I can. So all right, we
Speaker 1: I mean, we know who's not here anymore. But coming
Speaker 1: out of the draft, how pumped are you about what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys have done to make your job easier? Between Connor,
Speaker 1: bringing in some new receivers, just everything that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to work with. Yeah, I mean I was excited
Speaker 1: with the draft from the first pick to the last pick,
Speaker 1: and then on the free agency or undrafted free agents
Speaker 1: as they did. So, I mean, I'm I believe in
Speaker 1: this this organization. Obviously they picked me in so I
Speaker 1: mean I believe in the way they handle the draft,
Speaker 1: and I think every pick they made was the right pig.
Speaker 1: There was the right time, and Jerry and those guys
Speaker 1: have said it a couple of guys that we had
Speaker 1: failed to us and we couldn't be more excited, as
Speaker 1: you said, picking up Connor, picking up a tight end
Speaker 1: there late, getting another receiver, getting two receivers in the draft,
Speaker 1: and not only that, building on the defensive side. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what you gotta do to win championships, building that
Speaker 1: defensive side of the wall. And I think we're doing
Speaker 1: that We've asked everybody this too. Is it if you
Speaker 1: looked around looking for Jason Witten during these offseason workouts
Speaker 1: or so far last, you know when you pull into
Speaker 1: that that parking lot in that first that first parking
Speaker 1: spots open kind of says that that you don't have
Speaker 1: to go into facility and look, you kind of feel
Speaker 1: it at times, but that's just more important for me, Zeke,
Speaker 1: Sean all these other guys to step up and be
Speaker 1: more be better leaders, and be more vocal and do
Speaker 1: the things that we have to do to make sure
Speaker 1: this this organization, this team's had in the right way.
Speaker 1: Simple as Jason did. Well, we know you gotta get
Speaker 1: out and play golf. I want to let you talk
Speaker 1: about a little bit, tell everybody out there about your
Speaker 1: cause with your your T shirts and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: and just how people go about and grabbing the T
Speaker 1: shirts that's on your on your site on that four
Speaker 1: dot com. Yeah, you can go to my Instagram. It's
Speaker 1: in the biodagfo dot com. And it's just the simple
Speaker 1: of the mom shirt reaching out for Mother's Day. It's
Speaker 1: mind over matters, something my mom taught me. And all
Speaker 1: the proceeds everything one hundred percent goes straight to straight
Speaker 1: to my foundation, which then goes to the Stand Up
Speaker 1: for Cancer to help fight this disease, the Nazial disease
Speaker 1: that we all have somebody to know, somebody that's dealt
Speaker 1: with or is dealing with it. So I'm just doing
Speaker 1: everything I can to allow my mom to be my
Speaker 1: story and to reach out and help others out there
Speaker 1: that need it. Thanks a lot, man, good luck out
Speaker 1: there playing golf. Appreciate Scott, Thank you very much. The
Speaker 1: right you never know, you just kind of go around
Speaker 1: the corner here, you know, we're at the right table.
Speaker 1: We figured this thing out. Anyway. Dak has this really
Speaker 1: great habit with the with the whistling like he does,
Speaker 1: like you can hear him from one hundred yards away,
Speaker 1: so it's I mean, you heard him back there. I
Speaker 1: heard him back on the last while. It's like the
Speaker 1: bat signal. So yeah, well we're kind of we're just uh,
Speaker 1: we're like I say, we're here at the the Cowboys, uh,
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys sponsored golf outing. Marek Eagleton was making some
Speaker 1: passionate points about expectations for defensive ends. But we then
Speaker 1: we transition into Dak Prescott it really important year, Derek
Speaker 1: for him going forward now, I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: the first year expectations, we talked about, wow, when thirteen
Speaker 1: games turned around a little bit of rough patch. You know,
Speaker 1: throughout the season, I thought a lot was put on him.
Speaker 1: Maybe the team overall didn't play as well, but talk
Speaker 1: about what you feel like going into now into season three.
Speaker 1: You know, honestly, I think a lot was made of
Speaker 1: things that are that were temporary. In my opinion, I
Speaker 1: think the rough patches and it kind of came a lot.
Speaker 1: I think full circle. As I was watching All or Nothing,
Speaker 1: I think we're about to have coach on here in
Speaker 1: just a second here, but we'll finish that point afterwards.
Speaker 1: But I think there were some things that happened at
Speaker 1: all and nothing that suggested to me that maybe that
Speaker 1: was a lot to do about nothing when it comes
Speaker 1: to okay, okay, we'll keep going. But no, I think
Speaker 1: I think it's it was a lot to do about nothing.
Speaker 1: I think that when they hit the rough patch, I
Speaker 1: think there were other things that happened that pushed them
Speaker 1: into that rough patch, particularly him, and things had happened
Speaker 1: with that offensive line that I think we're more about
Speaker 1: how he is played than anyway, Derek, sorry to cut
Speaker 1: you off, but we have a very important guest right here,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrick. Do you mind taking a quick seat. We're
Speaker 1: gonna talk about today's event, absolutely, so I'll let you
Speaker 1: guys drive the question. All right, Hey, coach, how's it going?
Speaker 1: How are we doing? Guys? Good? Right? Good? The you know,
Speaker 1: you you've been on the side of it where you know, uh,
Speaker 1: the professional side with doing a player and then having
Speaker 1: to do with sponsors and stuff. What's it like now?
Speaker 1: Was being the head coach and doing with sponsors such
Speaker 1: such a part of our game now, uh, with with
Speaker 1: what they do, what they bring into helping the team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just think it's it's a great event, and it's
Speaker 1: a it's a big part of the culture that we
Speaker 1: have with the Cowboys and in the NFL. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, my memories of being involved in events like
Speaker 1: this when I was playing, we just had some great
Speaker 1: times and a really nice camaraderie with your teammates. But
Speaker 1: you get the opportunity to meet a lot of influential
Speaker 1: people and all these different businesses, and you know, you
Speaker 1: know as well as I do. You get a chance
Speaker 1: to play around to golf for five hours with people
Speaker 1: here don't know in another field, you have a couple
Speaker 1: of choices. You can kind of be to yourself or
Speaker 1: you can develop relationships. And my experience has been it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a really positive environment to get to know
Speaker 1: different people and learn from different people and just have
Speaker 1: a great day. And that really hasn't changed. As a coach,
Speaker 1: I typically come out here and take more pictures than
Speaker 1: I do swing the club. But it's a great event nonetheless.
Speaker 1: And you guys pick the perfect spot right here by
Speaker 1: the by the sausage shack, because I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: there are. There's some some friendships you talk about through
Speaker 1: the years that you still keep people you've played with
Speaker 1: and stuff as you've kind of gone on and they're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean, yeah, I remember playing golf, but yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. You know what's interesting about the Cowboys is
Speaker 1: that they have relationships with so many of these companies
Speaker 1: and they're they're they're almost lifetime relationships. You see some
Speaker 1: of the same people down on the field before the game,
Speaker 1: stuff like that, at the same events at training camp
Speaker 1: before the game, and you know, it's really fun. It's
Speaker 1: fun to develop these relationships and get to know these
Speaker 1: guys and and for me to learn from them, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's great to talk about what they do and
Speaker 1: why they're successful and how that might apply to what
Speaker 1: we do. So it's a really positive event for so
Speaker 1: many different reasons beyond just having the Hallapeena sausage sandwich. Coach.
Speaker 1: You said it a long time ago that you work
Speaker 1: healthy hours at the ranch and the start and all that.
Speaker 1: You guys work a lot long hours. But you're also
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So quarterbacks tend to play golf really well.
Speaker 1: How do you balance that? You don't get to play
Speaker 1: a lot? But that's that's one of the things with me.
Speaker 1: You know, typically when you're playing and you're a quarterback
Speaker 1: and you get thrown in with a foursome at an
Speaker 1: event like this, there's this expectation that a quarterbacks can
Speaker 1: play and the worst thing you can do is hit
Speaker 1: a good shot early, because all of a sudden they think, yeah,
Speaker 1: you validated it. You realize that golf for you is
Speaker 1: like golf for a lot of people. Over the course
Speaker 1: of eighteen holes, you find out who you really are
Speaker 1: and uh again, So we try to come out here
Speaker 1: and have good camaraderie and try your best and develop
Speaker 1: a little team chemistry and have a great day. I'm
Speaker 1: Dave asked the Witton question. I was gonna ask him
Speaker 1: what I was gonna ask him about his baseball swing,
Speaker 1: because we're gonna that's this thing right there. Yeah, a
Speaker 1: little little home run derby. Thank God for the snow fence.
Speaker 1: Just a doubles gap guy, just the whole time. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: I never had power. You know. One of the amazing
Speaker 1: things about about that event, we've done it for a
Speaker 1: few years now is you know, so many of our
Speaker 1: guys haven't played baseball, but but you see them over
Speaker 1: the course of the day almost reteach themselves a swing
Speaker 1: they learned when they were ten, eleven, twelve years old,
Speaker 1: and they get better right before your eyes. And there's
Speaker 1: some great examples of that. So it's always a fun events.
Speaker 1: That event is also for a great cause with reliance,
Speaker 1: so it's fun to be a part of that. You know,
Speaker 1: we've talked to a few guys already and they we've
Speaker 1: all asked them about Jason and they've Tyrone Crawford Byron
Speaker 1: Jones of course, Dak. It's kind of standing. We all
Speaker 1: have to pitch in and step up and be a leader.
Speaker 1: I would think as a coach, that's exactly kind of
Speaker 1: what you want them to do. It's hard to replace him.
Speaker 1: You can't replace him, but everybody has to pitch in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think the biggest thing is just the appreciation
Speaker 1: we have for him and the standard he's set. And
Speaker 1: you know, he's been such a big part of establishing
Speaker 1: the culture we've had on our football team. You know,
Speaker 1: what we want as coaches, he embodies and he represents that.
Speaker 1: And I think he's had such a positive impact on
Speaker 1: so many guys he's been around. I think they understand
Speaker 1: better how to do it, how to be a pro,
Speaker 1: and what this league is all about, and what we
Speaker 1: want our cowboy players to be all about. So there
Speaker 1: certainly is a void with him leaving, but it's also
Speaker 1: an opportunity for some other guy to step into it
Speaker 1: and step up, and I think guys are excited to
Speaker 1: embrace that responsibility. Nobody appreciates the draft more than you
Speaker 1: And you know because your father worked with your dad
Speaker 1: and he had such patch and for that talk about that.
Speaker 1: It how the transition of when the team's never the same,
Speaker 1: it's always it but talk about a little bit about
Speaker 1: the players you've added, the type of guy you want,
Speaker 1: and how they all fit into your plan going forward. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's the nature of the league. There's change
Speaker 1: every year the roster turns over, and more so now
Speaker 1: than ever, young players will have a big impact on
Speaker 1: your team. So the draft is important for this coming year.
Speaker 1: It's also important for subsequent years. When you draft well,
Speaker 1: typically you don't have to get into free agency very
Speaker 1: much because you have a team that you like and
Speaker 1: you're excited about the next group of guys kind of
Speaker 1: stepping up into their roles. When you haven't drafted well,
Speaker 1: typically there's some holes on your team that you have
Speaker 1: to fill. So you know, we plays great value in
Speaker 1: drafting well and bringing in the kind of as we
Speaker 1: want for our team. You know, it starts with what
Speaker 1: you want your team to be all about, what you
Speaker 1: want your individual players to be all about, and then
Speaker 1: you go look for those traits and you know, we
Speaker 1: want guys who certainly are talented and are capable of
Speaker 1: doing what we want them to do physically at their position,
Speaker 1: but we want guys who who want to be part
Speaker 1: of a team, who love playing football, to work at
Speaker 1: it and be part of the culture we're trying to establish,
Speaker 1: and we're excited about the guys we drafted. We'll get
Speaker 1: a chance to see him this weekend for the first
Speaker 1: time and see if we see if we chose wisely
Speaker 1: but excited to get him in here. It looks like
Speaker 1: a couple of players fell to you, some really some
Speaker 1: quality player. You guys were very patient throughout, just some nicely.
Speaker 1: Connor Williams was probably a big surprise to where you
Speaker 1: grab him at fifty like that. He's looks like a
Speaker 1: special player. Yeah, and we got a chance to be
Speaker 1: around Connor at Dallas Day. You know he's from Capelle
Speaker 1: as we know, and you know he made a great
Speaker 1: impression on us. Typically a guy who's going to get
Speaker 1: drafted as high as he was going to get drafted,
Speaker 1: if they come to one of these Dallas Days, one
Speaker 1: of these local workout days, you know, they come over
Speaker 1: to shake hands and say hi, but they typically don't
Speaker 1: want to work out. And I'll tell you what. He
Speaker 1: came over and worked his tail off and made a
Speaker 1: great impression on us, beyond the very favorable impression we
Speaker 1: had off him up to that point. So when he
Speaker 1: was there. We just thought it was a great pick
Speaker 1: for our team. And that's perfect for this line because
Speaker 1: if you're not ready to work with these guys, they'll
Speaker 1: leave you behind. Yeah, that's exactly right. And it starts
Speaker 1: with loving football, wanting to be great at football, and
Speaker 1: understanding what it takes to do that each and every day.
Speaker 1: And we have some great veteran leaders on our team,
Speaker 1: particularly on that offensive line and Tyring and Travis and
Speaker 1: Zach Martin. They really set the pace for everybody, and uh,
Speaker 1: you want guys who are willing to do that, and
Speaker 1: we think Collins got a chance to be one of
Speaker 1: those guys real quick. I know you gotta go, Layton
Speaker 1: vander esh what do you what are you calling him?
Speaker 1: Because whatever you call him as what everyone else is
Speaker 1: gonna call him. Yeah, we'll probably start with fifty five.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of syllables there. Yeah, Lyle Collins was
Speaker 1: a hard one for me to get out of my
Speaker 1: mouth in a quick fashion. And so we rolled over
Speaker 1: to ELC and that's the sticks. So he's still will
Speaker 1: say but you know, uh, nicknames or some of those
Speaker 1: things that you know when you see the guy, Uh,
Speaker 1: typically something hits you and Hopefully that thing will stick,
Speaker 1: so we'll find out the next days. We might call
Speaker 1: him Riggan's Idaho. Well, coach, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: taking time for us. We appreciate that. Always enjoyed being
Speaker 1: with you guys. Have a great day. Thank you coach.
Speaker 1: Coach Jason Garrett spending a little time with us today
Speaker 1: here on our show. We always appreciate him coming by
Speaker 1: and then saying a few words, Uh, just you got it,
Speaker 1: I got it right, There'll be my guy. Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: sell yourself, sure, Brian, I don't know anybody that cares
Speaker 1: about the draft as much. Yeah. I was about to say,
Speaker 1: I thought his dad his dad really his dad was.
Speaker 1: I always say this one of the most passionate speeches
Speaker 1: I've ever heard about a player was Randy Moss and
Speaker 1: he was Jim Garrett was absolutely right about listened. Yeah. Next,
Speaker 1: So we got that video somewhere. They've got that video
Speaker 1: somewhere where. But it's it's really is it. It's great.
Speaker 1: It's one of actual it's somewhere. It's somewhere on a
Speaker 1: video cassette and Valley Ranch, which is about it's a
Speaker 1: VHS tage. We got we got it, We got it.
Speaker 1: We got it secured, I got it scared. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna be destroyed with the building. Well that's well, that's
Speaker 1: great because it brings chills to me when I watch
Speaker 1: it about scouts, and it's what's the good thing about
Speaker 1: with scouts discussing with coaches and things like that, and
Speaker 1: then Jerry Jones trying to make a decision on the player.
Speaker 1: And I mean again, you had a head coach and
Speaker 1: a receiver's coach battling two scouts that believed that the
Speaker 1: player could be a difference maker, and the scouts in
Speaker 1: this case where right. Yeah, scouts didn't win, but they
Speaker 1: were right. Yeah, first ballots. No disrespect to Jerry Rice
Speaker 1: at all, but if I was drafting receivers all time
Speaker 1: and he'd be my first pick, he was just so dynamic.
Speaker 1: That was a thing like, yeah, you just you weren't
Speaker 1: going to cover him. So the Cowboys never beat him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: not one time beat him. But he's just torched him.
Speaker 1: But even when he was a role player the second
Speaker 1: time around in Minnesota, they couldn't beat him. They never
Speaker 1: beat him. Yeah, that's a tough team though that Those
Speaker 1: Dinny Green teams are usually pretty good. I mean we
Speaker 1: had to battle those guys in Green Bay. That was
Speaker 1: never fun, you know, never fun about that. I was
Speaker 1: looking at the Hall of Fame class. Has there ever
Speaker 1: been a better class than this one? Well, it's it's
Speaker 1: a class. It's a class that we understand because we've
Speaker 1: seen him play. That's a good point, you know, and
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of time the voters. But
Speaker 1: it's Moss, Moss, ray Lewis. I mean you're talking about
Speaker 1: when you just say the best that I've ever played
Speaker 1: at middle linebacker, ray Lewis has got to be in
Speaker 1: the discussion the best wide receivers to ever play. Yes,
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice is right there. But if you're gonna say
Speaker 1: top five, I think Randy Moss Anti over there, I
Speaker 1: think who who else? Why does your voice get all
Speaker 1: high like that doesn't like to I'm just saying, I'm
Speaker 1: when I think top five wideously, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of what other names I would throw out. I mean,
Speaker 1: we got all day. I mean, let's who who? Yeah Rice?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, who's third? If not him? He's got
Speaker 1: he's got the stats, Yeah he does. I mean it's
Speaker 1: just he was a scary player to play against. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean and maybe maybe I sound like and I
Speaker 1: don't want to sound like the old curmudgeon um job,
Speaker 1: the old curmudgeon writer. But I do think something has
Speaker 1: to be factored in that the teams he was on
Speaker 1: like there were problems. There were always problems, and I
Speaker 1: think that harm their abilities to be able to get
Speaker 1: to the ultimate goal, which was a championship. I think
Speaker 1: that was a part of the problem. So as much
Speaker 1: as he added to a team, I think there was
Speaker 1: a part that he deducted from a team as well.
Speaker 1: That has to be factored in. I had a coach
Speaker 1: tell me he was the most divisive player he's ever
Speaker 1: been with Nick. Nick and I have talked about this
Speaker 1: when he was on this team. We talked about it.
Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that kills leadership like
Speaker 1: he's not gonna step up and be the leader. But
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that if there is a leader,
Speaker 1: he's the one. This role in his eyes and take
Speaker 1: a fraction of guys with him, some held in their
Speaker 1: eyes at whoever is the way. Somebody told me one
Speaker 1: time early on, like his two thousand and seven six
Speaker 1: or seven, that Romo is having a hard time here
Speaker 1: because this guy jumps off sides and doesn't say anything
Speaker 1: or you know, but Creighton does it, Sam Hurd does it,
Speaker 1: and he can't say, hey, you know, he can't do
Speaker 1: anything about it because he's not doing anything about it to.
Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about with leadership. Tony needs
Speaker 1: to stop the drill, say you know what, get your
Speaker 1: ass on side, stay awake in the meetings and all
Speaker 1: this stuff. But when To doesn't do it, it's hard
Speaker 1: for that. And so that that was a problem, and
Speaker 1: you're right about that with the leadership. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it ever got this bad, but I think that
Speaker 1: was part of the discussion with eighty eight of what's
Speaker 1: happening here, because it's it's hard. He's a heart Huh,
Speaker 1: Antonio Bryant. Not Antonio Bryant, does Bryant? So how dare you?
Speaker 1: Rob thought? That's what you're talking about. So he was
Speaker 1: a problem. It was a problem, so disrespected. Right, it's
Speaker 1: time to tag back in. We're gonna do that. What
Speaker 1: we got here, we have I don't know football players, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well who's this group? Then they got to be somebody
Speaker 1: lacking behind here. Yeah, but we're we have we've had
Speaker 1: we've had some great guests. Yeah it is, and it's uh,
Speaker 1: we're we figured out, like coach said, we're at the
Speaker 1: perfect spot here where it's not by accident. I've already
Speaker 1: wanted it. I've already extended to the afternoon. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do three more hours this afternoon. I think it's really
Speaker 1: expading that idea. I think you're joking. You should have
Speaker 1: seen Kent's reaction to that. Yeah, I think, yeah, you're like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Garrison again. But I had to guess there was I mean,
Speaker 1: Nick is the emplier, but there was some implication there
Speaker 1: when Garrett said that, he was like, oh, you picked
Speaker 1: a great spot here where you can bother all my
Speaker 1: players all day long. Yeah, well, we can watch him.
Speaker 1: He's he's like he's talking about he's got the dog.
Speaker 1: He's got the Hallopeener dog. He's so he's working on that.
Speaker 1: I think to tell him, to convince him to him,
Speaker 1: I'm like, we won't ask any football questions. That's until
Speaker 1: we ask I picked up on that because she said
Speaker 1: it when you sat him down, guys, and then yeah,
Speaker 1: they just were like, screw that, We're going for it.
Speaker 1: Dave under the bus. But well they had to have
Speaker 1: it of doing that from time to time. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: and Garrett's done this. That's you guys off camera. I'm like,
Speaker 1: don't please, don't ask football question. Tell him. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was the same thing afterwards? Was good? Well we
Speaker 1: didn't ask did we talk about a current player? Talked
Speaker 1: about the draft at the draft? I haven't signed yet? Yeah, exactly, Yes,
Speaker 1: aren't What if he had given us some all or nothing, Garrett?
Speaker 1: How cool would that have been? We should have asked him,
Speaker 1: just like you. I think he would like. I think
Speaker 1: he would have kind of he didn't really want to
Speaker 1: talk about I was going to ask him. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, you've told the whole world about what why
Speaker 1: option is? Now? I mean, can you still run it?
Speaker 1: I mean do you have any one that can run
Speaker 1: somebody that can run it? Yeah? Maybe not the question. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll have to figure that one out that we are
Speaker 1: out here. He does have a press conference or not
Speaker 1: a little media Yeah, yeah, that should be later on too, Right,
Speaker 1: we'll have to have that up on the site. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: we talked about stuff on the site too. Um, you're
Speaker 1: scouting report, I'll tavon Austin yesterday, right, Scouting report today
Speaker 1: on jahad Ward Ward. It's just gonna say Ward, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to figure out where he's gonna play. Need
Speaker 1: to figure out where he's gonna play. Oh, you just
Speaker 1: go ahead and say it. You want to play him
Speaker 1: at end and you think they're gonna pay him atack.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna play at tackle. But you want
Speaker 1: to play him a hundred ninety six pound guy. I'd
Speaker 1: slim him down myself. You know, if you're talking about
Speaker 1: Crawford slimming him down, maybe you could do some of
Speaker 1: the same for him. I don't really think this team
Speaker 1: needs another end. Does he have pass rushability? He's got
Speaker 1: some pass rushability though at that size, though, I don't
Speaker 1: think he has the pass rushability. Let me ask this question,
Speaker 1: like how many At this point it seems like there's
Speaker 1: a lot of three techniques and not very many one tech? Right?
Speaker 1: Is that accurate? And it's so like, where's he gonna fit?
Speaker 1: I think that's why you want to try and get
Speaker 1: Terrell mcclin Terrell McClain back one. Yeah, it gives you
Speaker 1: another one, gives you a more dynamic one, like a
Speaker 1: one who can do some pass for us. What about price?
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about Price because before he
Speaker 1: got hurt last year, I thought he was playing pretty well.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make this team as the ninth
Speaker 1: d lineman, as your trash can full of dirt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean you can't move analogy. Yea if you did
Speaker 1: that up on the site. Ye, so you did. You
Speaker 1: did a fifty three man projection way too early fifty three,
Speaker 1: But talk about where was the difficult spots for you
Speaker 1: keeping extra tight, in keeping an extra receiver, you're gonna
Speaker 1: keep a third quarterback. I hesitate to call it a
Speaker 1: fifty three man projection where the team should be. I
Speaker 1: just I just I don't you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to pick fifty three names out of a hat, because
Speaker 1: it's that's impossible at this point. But I just kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to do a thought process on, you know,
Speaker 1: how they might think about it. Where they might want
Speaker 1: to go heavy, why they might want to go heavy,
Speaker 1: why they might want to go light, and honestly, uh,
Speaker 1: the biggest, the biggest question mark in the whole thing
Speaker 1: is the defensive line. Because you've got so many capable
Speaker 1: guys and you're not going to carry more than ten
Speaker 1: and Honestly, I feel like that's unlikely. It's been eight
Speaker 1: or nine most of the last five years, and you
Speaker 1: just have so many guys. I mean, you got your
Speaker 1: obvious DeMarcus Lawrence Tyrone, Crawford, David Irving, Malie Collins. But
Speaker 1: then you throw in Coney Eally, maybe you throw in
Speaker 1: Terrell McLean, Richard Ashe and Brian Price are still kicking around,
Speaker 1: Charles Tapper's here, Tacos here h Randy Gregory might be
Speaker 1: reinstated by the good competition. It's a good problem to have,
Speaker 1: but you still got to trim it down to nine people.
Speaker 1: And so that's their challenge that and that's that's kind
Speaker 1: of my point. I'm not here to tell you which
Speaker 1: nine you're gonna make it. We haven't watched a single practice,
Speaker 1: right when you look at the amount of bodies that
Speaker 1: are there, and to Derek's point, you got x amount
Speaker 1: of you got, you got a lot of threes, you
Speaker 1: got not a lot of ones. It's gonna be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how they start it out. I think d
Speaker 1: line and receiver. And something interesting about that is almost
Speaker 1: every one of those guys ask position flex which still
Speaker 1: love So you don't even know necessarily where everybody's gonna
Speaker 1: line up. They may have a guy they start at
Speaker 1: camp at defensive end and he actually makes the team
Speaker 1: because he's at three sex And to be fair, that's
Speaker 1: I think. You know this team loves to go light
Speaker 1: on the offensive line, right, and that's because there's so
Speaker 1: much position flex. I mean, you've got you got your
Speaker 1: five starters. You got a draft pick in Connor Williams
Speaker 1: who can play anywhere on the line. You got Chaz
Speaker 1: Green who can play guarden tackle. You got Joe Looney
Speaker 1: who can play guarden center. Can Marcus Martin play center?
Speaker 1: I would see Marcus Martin play center? Noah. So honestly,
Speaker 1: he's the only guy in the whole bunch that doesn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of flex. I think Jazz Green's gonna
Speaker 1: make this team. I think I wouldn't bet against him
Speaker 1: just because he's got the flexibility to play a lot
Speaker 1: of spots. Honestly, they just need to keep him at tackle,
Speaker 1: don't they remain? Don't they Do you think they need
Speaker 1: to keep at tackle? That question? But yeah, but do
Speaker 1: you think they need to keep him at tackle? I mean,
Speaker 1: look like right you're ready to move on. I mean,
Speaker 1: when you guys used to term band aid. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a great band aid last year. You know, like one
Speaker 1: of those band days that started kind of peeling off
Speaker 1: and you keep having to push it. Well, but here's
Speaker 1: the problem, it falls off. Yeah, there's another analogy. I
Speaker 1: like that one too. Yeah, but the problem is you've
Speaker 1: signed a guy to be your swing tackle. If everything
Speaker 1: is settles in its place, and you've got Connor Williams
Speaker 1: at guard, you keep lylea tackle. Cameron Fleming has started
Speaker 1: a game in the Super Bowl, I think that's that's
Speaker 1: your natural swing tackle. So, okay, does he play guard?
Speaker 1: Will you signed Marcus Martin to back up at guard?
Speaker 1: You got Joe Looney who can back up both spots?
Speaker 1: I don't That's my point immediately, Like what his spot
Speaker 1: is right now on this team. I think he's got
Speaker 1: to fight for a spot. Obviously he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: fight for a spot. But I'm not counting him out
Speaker 1: because I think he could play. Could not saying he
Speaker 1: would do it great or whatever, but he has the
Speaker 1: flexibility to play as many as four spots. And that's
Speaker 1: what you're looking at when you're talking about like the
Speaker 1: eighth or ninth guy on your line. But honestly, honestly,
Speaker 1: I don't know that they that they I know he
Speaker 1: can supposedly do it, I don't think there's confidence that
Speaker 1: he can do it well or well enough for them
Speaker 1: to feel good about throwing him in in a in
Speaker 1: a tough situation. All the guys that they've thrown at
Speaker 1: that offensive line this offseason tells you they don't feel comfortable.
Speaker 1: But he can provide it. But so he's gonna have to,
Speaker 1: all things equal, it's working against him. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: to be appreciably better than those other guys that they've
Speaker 1: brought in in order for him to make the team.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, when you've got your first seven spots
Speaker 1: figured out, and you've got one more spot to give
Speaker 1: on your offensive line, and one guy can do one
Speaker 1: job and one guy can do three. And I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that. I'm not saying Chaz Green is gonna make
Speaker 1: this team. I'm just saying it would be as helps him.
Speaker 1: It would be a mistake to write him off in May.
Speaker 1: It would. But but to Derek's point out, written off
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Sorry, yeah, seriously, seriously, they're talking about it.
Speaker 1: I mean, people are talking about it in effect. I mean,
Speaker 1: they drafted Connor Williams because of vietnams. Terry said, but
Speaker 1: but they have discussed hay should we have not tried
Speaker 1: him at guards y, so the talk about position flex
Speaker 1: Like I I don't think they want to go down
Speaker 1: that road with him. I really don't. I think they'd
Speaker 1: rather just stick him out of a spot and hope
Speaker 1: that he succeeds there. Maybe it's tackle, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: that's the best spot. I think this is his last shot.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to show a lot of training camp
Speaker 1: and he's gonna have to what I'm saying, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to show so much more at training camp than
Speaker 1: the next closest guy for them to say, Okay, what
Speaker 1: happened last year, we think he's beyond that, right. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have to see a lot in order
Speaker 1: for them to feel comfortable with that. And I just
Speaker 1: don't know if that's it is. It sucks because I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel bad. I'd feel really bad for the guy
Speaker 1: and the fact that he didn't necessarily get help from
Speaker 1: the coaches. You know, yes, he'd played bad, but at
Speaker 1: the same time, he didn't receive any help and that
Speaker 1: it really affected him. So I'm curious to see how
Speaker 1: he's gonna take down mentally, because when you're surrounded by
Speaker 1: people that are expecting you or they think, oh you
Speaker 1: suck or whatever, and they all of us, you think, Okay,
Speaker 1: I need to show prove them wrong. That's a that's
Speaker 1: tough on you. And sometimes it works on your advantage,
Speaker 1: but sometimes it works against you. So I'm curious to see.
Speaker 1: I know I wish him well, but maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: a last year He'll end up somewhere else. Last year,
Speaker 1: we were talking about Chaz as a guy who might
Speaker 1: start this year. I think you're talking if he makes
Speaker 1: the team. You're talking about him as a guy who
Speaker 1: doesn't dress on game day. So yeah, yeah, I let
Speaker 1: me ask you, we have changed the sub they drafted
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yeah, you try to talk about this earlier. Oh,
Speaker 1: we had this discussion it last yesterday. Yeah, if they
Speaker 1: tried to draft our quarterback, I's trying to cut Cooper
Speaker 1: ru I did not try to rob trying to not
Speaker 1: say that this is team need a better quarterback. Well
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Well, this goes back to it
Speaker 1: better quarterball. This goes back to what This is the
Speaker 1: point I was trying to make earlier, which is like,
Speaker 1: why why does it matter what I think? If they've
Speaker 1: given us a blueprint for what they want, right and
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying that they've they've said they're
Speaker 1: prepared to go with three quarterbacks. I'm just saying, if
Speaker 1: you come out of training camp like you did last year,
Speaker 1: and you got five dbs with hamstring injuries, and you
Speaker 1: got a bunch of problems injury wise, it is a
Speaker 1: luxury on your roster to go with three quarterbacks. And
Speaker 1: if you go there's gonna be three quarters, gonna go
Speaker 1: with three. I just kind of wonder why one of
Speaker 1: them wouldn't be a more veteran guy. What's up? Man?
Speaker 1: Hanging out there? He is, I'm a seat there, Phil
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith. It's not that young anymore. Interview. We saw you.
Speaker 1: We saw you as we were coming out here. We
Speaker 1: saw how's the game been since we saw you about
Speaker 1: a couple hours ago? Has things improved for you? I
Speaker 1: should learn a little bit. Um. It's kind of lining
Speaker 1: up a little right in the only problem is is
Speaker 1: always the problem short cloths. I have very short cloths
Speaker 1: right now. We talked about that with tall guys, that's stuff, right,
Speaker 1: But Zack Zach looked like he had his own. When
Speaker 1: we brought Zach through, he talked to us, He's got
Speaker 1: his own, like notre dame bag and all that stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's like they it's like they're trying at
Speaker 1: the game, right, They're trying. They're trying to get better
Speaker 1: at it. Though, But if you go on as far
Speaker 1: as to take lessons, because Dad came by and told
Speaker 1: us he's self taught, he doesn't. He doesn't want too
Speaker 1: many voices in his ear all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I took a couple of lessons before, but uh, I's
Speaker 1: been completely going trying. I'm probably on the same thing
Speaker 1: as Dad right now, trying to still teach myself right now. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but I think it is I can't still teach myself.
Speaker 1: I don't have the right clubs. You're you're like, you're
Speaker 1: like you do this once a year kind of guy, right,
Speaker 1: or do you play a lot of times a year?
Speaker 1: So why don't just get some clubs? Man? I know, Man,
Speaker 1: I say I'm gonna do it. Then I could kind
Speaker 1: of go back in my mind and kind of get
Speaker 1: busb with working is. I mean that makes sense. Priorities,
Speaker 1: I get it. Um, so we I mean we've been
Speaker 1: asking everybody else this as well. And I mean I
Speaker 1: made a joke about it a minute ago. All of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you're like the most veteran player on this offense. No, no,
Speaker 1: I mean it's true. Though I didn't say old. You
Speaker 1: said I tried to call him a young guys older
Speaker 1: than me. By the way, it's true. Oh yeah, but
Speaker 1: I I mean that's that's gotta be kind kind of
Speaker 1: weird with you know, Winton des moving on. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've been It doesn't feel like you've been here that long,
Speaker 1: but you really kind of have. I mean, what's that like,
Speaker 1: that transition into veteran player. Um, well, for me, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to change anything I've been doing. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: keep the same mise i've been doing, um and um
Speaker 1: for me as a leader, and I I try to
Speaker 1: lead by example. I'm not, as you guys know, I'm
Speaker 1: not a very vocal guy. We do appreciate your time
Speaker 1: is right now, like this is Tyren Smith. Not sit
Speaker 1: down else we were gonna give you some golf clubs,
Speaker 1: but uh, okay, well, and then you know, the other
Speaker 1: obvious one they draft a guy to maybe come in
Speaker 1: and play left guard next to you. Obviously they've shown
Speaker 1: a willingness to invest in the offensive line over the years.
Speaker 1: What does that mean for y'all and more so for
Speaker 1: those of y'all that are already here, you know, lyle
Speaker 1: not having to move just maybe keeping that continuing continuity
Speaker 1: here we go, and just what that means to y'all
Speaker 1: as a unit moving forward and trying to pick your
Speaker 1: love next love. Well, you know, for us, we always
Speaker 1: appreciate the kind of any help they bring for us.
Speaker 1: And this kissing like he's willing to come in and
Speaker 1: work and put forth the effort and make this seam
Speaker 1: better and we will help him along the way. Any
Speaker 1: questions he has along the way, We're going to help
Speaker 1: him out. Any any early impressions of Paul Alexander for me,
Speaker 1: he's this um he has like an old school field
Speaker 1: to him for me, and uh, you know, he takes
Speaker 1: pride in what he does as any coach does, and
Speaker 1: he's he's on the same path that we are trying
Speaker 1: to get tours. Totally, I feel like a bad journalist.
Speaker 1: I totally buried the lead. You're out here playing golf.
Speaker 1: You must feel pretty good. How's the back, how's the knee?
Speaker 1: I mean, how are you feeling this offseason? Actually? I
Speaker 1: feel great right now. I gotta early jump on on
Speaker 1: everything this year and then that's actually feel really great.
Speaker 1: Good glad to hear. Well, let's go play some golf
Speaker 1: that Yeah, I mean that right there. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: the right idea, you got everything going the right way here,
Speaker 1: breaking Smith, Let's get him some golf clubs appreciate, okay,
Speaker 1: as Tyron Smith. Nice get by uh An Barr doing
Speaker 1: the guests we've had, I know, yeah, man, I don't
Speaker 1: know if we've ever had this many don't know. I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't stress enough. I mean, Tyron Smith does not
Speaker 1: like to talk in front of a microphone, like for
Speaker 1: him to sit down with us as big. I think
Speaker 1: it's you, Dave. I think they're starting to like you,
Speaker 1: maybe so growing on them like fungus my roguish charm,
Speaker 1: rogus charm. I'm just annoying, but not too annoying, I
Speaker 1: don't know, just annoying enough. Yeah him er, Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: It's the most important player that needs to be out
Speaker 1: there for sixteen. Yes, that's you. Know that was the
Speaker 1: point that was Actually I'm talking about that earlier and
Speaker 1: I was talking about Deck like I think that's what
Speaker 1: everybody doesn't want to today. They don't mention when they're
Speaker 1: talking about play is it was when Tyron went down
Speaker 1: that things started going falling apart. You had Tyrn and
Speaker 1: Zeke out and it was like, that's when things just
Speaker 1: started falling apart for the offense. They went through the
Speaker 1: historically bad stretch. And to me, that's not so much
Speaker 1: about the quarterback as much as it is about the
Speaker 1: fact that the left tackle and the running back we're
Speaker 1: out and I think you hopefully they can get through
Speaker 1: a season where they don't have those issues. That's a
Speaker 1: tough question to answer. I'm gonna I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith. And that's no disrespect to Shawn Lee obviously,
Speaker 1: but to Derek's point, eight games down the stretch, Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith missed better part of three games. I think with
Speaker 1: that injuries, twenty two sacks on Dak Prescott before and
Speaker 1: not happened before, and that doesn't count the times he
Speaker 1: was hit and pressured, and he wasn't the same efficient
Speaker 1: Dack that we've known to be when the when the
Speaker 1: offensive line is cooking like it normally is. Let's throw
Speaker 1: this out there too though, um, and you know, knock
Speaker 1: on wood. I hope both of those guys play sixteen games,
Speaker 1: But do you feel like they're better position to deal
Speaker 1: with that if they have to? Yeah, they drafted they are.
Speaker 1: They drafted a linebacker nineteenth overall because of Sean Lee's
Speaker 1: injury issues, and they signed Cam Fleming who can play
Speaker 1: both spots and has twenty something career starts at tackle,
Speaker 1: and that's I just I don't I can't say enough
Speaker 1: how smart it I think, how smart I think it
Speaker 1: is that they drafted Connor Williams and they're not trying
Speaker 1: to move Lyle Collins and mess with that situation because
Speaker 1: I really think you need three capable guys to get
Speaker 1: the job done, and that's what they have. That's fair.
Speaker 1: Although they did devote a first round pick bit linebacker
Speaker 1: signed Joe Thomas, so maybe you can say they're better
Speaker 1: equipped a linebacker too if something were happening. I get
Speaker 1: I think they're so they're equipped at both. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: well equipped at both to whether that better than they
Speaker 1: did last year. Now, hopefully we don't have to find out.
Speaker 1: But they've got better experience and better talent in both
Speaker 1: of those spots. If something happens. Scouting report on the
Speaker 1: sausage dog unbelievable. I mean it really is it really
Speaker 1: that good? Yeah? It really is, especially the way I
Speaker 1: think yea like a true Texan. Yeah, you go tortilla there.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, we're gonna break down here. I mean,
Speaker 1: was this the quickest two hours ever? I was pretty fast?
Speaker 1: So it is as Actually everybody goes by, get LC
Speaker 1: on camera, LC fishing, that's the new company. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm going fishing with that guy out. Oh no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: we've had locker rooms. Were on a Wednesday where we
Speaker 1: didn't get as m I'm telling you man, I was
Speaker 1: kind of thinking about after we're done, set the table
Speaker 1: around and just as they come by, would just save
Speaker 1: your recorders out and just fit questions as you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can get you can get a lot of content here. Absolutely. Uh.
Speaker 1: The question I asked was about Smith or Lee number one,
Speaker 1: he's over there, and uh he might turn around and
Speaker 1: hear it. But no, Honestly, the stat that I looked,
Speaker 1: I think I told you guys this thirty Uh. I
Speaker 1: think they give up thirty two sacks last year. Nineteen
Speaker 1: of them were in the five games where he did
Speaker 1: not play or missed a lot of it. So I
Speaker 1: think he's so valuable. And you know he drafted Layton,
Speaker 1: Layton vander esh Well, been a lot of faith in No.
Speaker 1: Fifty five? Can we just call him Rolando two point zero?
Speaker 1: How about that? Well? That was your boy, man. I
Speaker 1: love him. I love He's fishing somewhere right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's fishing somewhere in Alabama. How about you? And I
Speaker 1: mean I've asked the question about you, Sean Lee. I mean,
Speaker 1: either way, I wouldn't disagree. It's just I don't like
Speaker 1: picking aside because I see the two things completely and
Speaker 1: some fans gonna tag you about it later. That has
Speaker 1: ever stopped me. I don't think so. But the answer
Speaker 1: has to be both for this team. It's just they're
Speaker 1: not going to be good if it's not both. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would pick one. If they were both on like
Speaker 1: offense or defense, I would picked one. But then since
Speaker 1: it's just two separate things, they both have clearly highly
Speaker 1: affected the team when they're out. Who's your answer? Who's
Speaker 1: your answer? Yeah? I don't think they play without Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: They don't, they don't. Defense is not the same defense
Speaker 1: again Byron Bill Amber was absolutely right with the band
Speaker 1: aid stuff, and that's why they went out and did
Speaker 1: what they did. You know, I I totally totally agree
Speaker 1: with with her assessment on that. But look at what
Speaker 1: this defense was without Sean Lee. It just they could
Speaker 1: not stop anybody. They couldn't get off the field two
Speaker 1: to twenty two. Yeah, I mean that that what's he
Speaker 1: what's he went out did? Everything was bad? But it was,
Speaker 1: but it really is even because they couldn't get in
Speaker 1: the end zone without Tyrant Smith, they couldn't find the
Speaker 1: end zone. It was it was fueld goal settling for
Speaker 1: field goals. I mean, Zeke wasn't there. Zeeke helps your
Speaker 1: defense though, too, doesn't he? Sure that's why they drafted him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Did you go part? Did y'all watch All or Nothing? Everything?
Speaker 1: How heartbreaking was that last shot of Sean Lee in
Speaker 1: the room by himself watching team My favorite thing about
Speaker 1: every It seemed like every time Sean Lee was on
Speaker 1: that show, they had to like get it from you know,
Speaker 1: like fifty feet away, because like you know, there was
Speaker 1: a scene where he was doing rehabit in the pool
Speaker 1: during his injury, and they were kind of getting them
Speaker 1: and like he saw him from behind, and I'm like
Speaker 1: he got out and him after them up and down.
Speaker 1: I would bet fifty dollars like I feel like they
Speaker 1: were filming him from a watched I watched part of
Speaker 1: the show with some people that don't know much about
Speaker 1: football or followed the Cowboys, and they're like, is he
Speaker 1: the coach? I'm like, na, but because it's not really.
Speaker 1: But the craziest not the craziest were good good. One
Speaker 1: of the most enlightening things that the whole show is
Speaker 1: like he led the defensive meetings, Like I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Yeah, that's awesome. I so when he's gone,
Speaker 1: you can see why they or whatever. I think it's.
Speaker 1: I think it's Sean Lee. I mean as much as
Speaker 1: I love Tyrn Smith and what the left tackle spot means,
Speaker 1: because they clearly didn't fix that. They clear not not
Speaker 1: last season. Oh yeah, with what happened, which you were
Speaker 1: hopeful that Chaz Green was going to be the guy
Speaker 1: because he made a couple of injury starts. Believe since
Speaker 1: he came in San Francisco, Cincinnati and then the Bear
Speaker 1: the previous year and there you know, and and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: can bring the heat I think, I mean they had
Speaker 1: some rushers and he was able to hold up in
Speaker 1: I'd feel more comfortable trying to make it work with
Speaker 1: Cam Fleming, Lyle Collins and maybe even uh Connor Williams.
Speaker 1: Then throwing Layton Vanderesh and Jalen Smith out there, and
Speaker 1: what do we what do we always go back to? Though?
Speaker 1: How good is Jalen Smith going to be this year?
Speaker 1: He is the X factor maybe for this entire defense
Speaker 1: in a way, because if he can be a guy
Speaker 1: that can play you know, he was at his best
Speaker 1: when he was playing twenty thirty snaps, right, if he
Speaker 1: can play forty fifty and be really good and effective
Speaker 1: everything at number twelve at the whole the swing city.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, people are like this club cover. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what about Okay, you get you get Vanderish probably gonna
Speaker 1: be a mic linebacker. What does that do with Jalen Smith?
Speaker 1: Does that mean okay that there's gonna be a competition there? Didn't?
Speaker 1: Does he now play as the sam? Is he gonna
Speaker 1: be a rusher or nickel? Where does he? I like
Speaker 1: Dave's answer. There's that from a few weeks ago. He
Speaker 1: takes three to play two. Yeah, it does exactly like
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you play him. You can play
Speaker 1: him both there he played, we do it. We got
Speaker 1: to do something about this LV fifty five. I don't
Speaker 1: know Layton play Layton. You can play him in in
Speaker 1: passing situations and where coverage is more import that's something
Speaker 1: he's really actually very good at your school? What conferences?
Speaker 1: Your school? In SEC? What about you? What about you SEC? Well,
Speaker 1: let's just call him Vandy. That's fine. Yeah, man, late,
Speaker 1: that was stupid of me. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: late when you're a lineback, now, you don't you You
Speaker 1: said it though, we said it on a Talking Cowboys before.
Speaker 1: He's you know, with dealing with the foot. He was
Speaker 1: a lot better at times going forward and being a
Speaker 1: nickel Russian. So maybe this freeze him want to do
Speaker 1: more that I would. I would love to and you know,
Speaker 1: I remember twenty thirteen they made Kyle Wilber do that
Speaker 1: because they had nobody else who could do it right.
Speaker 1: I would love to see Jalen Smith get five to
Speaker 1: ten snaps a game as a pass Russian. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I was good at I was breaking down
Speaker 1: the defense. Did I think that dude, if you let
Speaker 1: him do that all season, I think he could finish
Speaker 1: with three to six sacks. I mean wipes, yeah, swipe
Speaker 1: it up. We didn't wipe it all like our Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: Swipe up and read more. Swipe up and sack the quarterback.
Speaker 1: That was stupid. Sorry, could shoot your shot. No, that's
Speaker 1: but I'm interested to see how they're going to play
Speaker 1: these linebackers. I really do, because there's like some questions
Speaker 1: about the defensive line. I mean, you named a bunch
Speaker 1: of guys. You named a bunch of guys. Okay, one
Speaker 1: of the combination is going to be upfront. I I
Speaker 1: three to play too, figure it out. Jalen can play
Speaker 1: early downs, Layton can play laid downs. They feel like
Speaker 1: Layton's probably a mic so yeah, so so maybe it's
Speaker 1: just a platoon in Mica. That's what they did with
Speaker 1: That's what they did with Hitchens last year. Hitchens played
Speaker 1: more snaps and Jalen came in and spelled him. That's
Speaker 1: I mean three to play two and let let Jalen
Speaker 1: rush the quarterback. I'm all in on that. That's uh
Speaker 1: just kind of thing. I'm just I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of I'm thinking about how I play. I
Speaker 1: think I would play him at SAM I think I
Speaker 1: would just go ahead, I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: Vanderish into the deep end of the pool. Wow, well
Speaker 1: you could use him in that. You could just you
Speaker 1: just said it. You use him as a rusher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm I'm getting all those young guys
Speaker 1: on the book. If if what happened last year after
Speaker 1: the Chargers game where all those young kids had to
Speaker 1: start playing, by all means, let's just go that round.
Speaker 1: I just hope that in the next year's version of
Speaker 1: All or Nothing or whatever it is, that Nampa Bay
Speaker 1: Buccaneers whatever hard knocks comes in when they show Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: I hope Vandyandy. Hope he's sitting right next to him.
Speaker 1: I hope he's I think he's gonna learn. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna learn from him. If you learn from him,
Speaker 1: that would be great. He's got some he's got some
Speaker 1: arcag to him. He seems like that type of guy,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, before we were running out of time, though,
Speaker 1: give me some like one thought going into not the
Speaker 1: rookie camp. But we're having with OTAs and stuff coming up,
Speaker 1: something you're gonna kind of look forward to in the
Speaker 1: in the OTAs when the rookies get to be with
Speaker 1: the veteran guys. Well, I'm gonna bring bring it back
Speaker 1: to what me and Amber keep talking about. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: you know a lot of this. Okay, we know the
Speaker 1: receiver battle is gonna be tough. We'll sort that out later.
Speaker 1: Defensive line, we'll sort that out at training camp. This
Speaker 1: safety thing, you know, they said they know they didn't
Speaker 1: do anything about it. They mentioned Cheeto and Byron as
Speaker 1: guys who can play safety if need be, which you
Speaker 1: don't want to hear. No, I don't. But but my point,
Speaker 1: I didn't like that answer. I think we're gonna we're
Speaker 1: gonna see, we're gonna watch these OTAs and then they're
Speaker 1: gonna say, all right, we should probably do something about this,
Speaker 1: or maybe maybe Xavier Woods is just so exemplary that
Speaker 1: they don't. But I feel like something's got to give
Speaker 1: with that in the next six weeks. That's my opinion.
Speaker 1: How Hey, I'm just going with the flow now. I've
Speaker 1: given up arguing about it. I'm like you know what.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they're seeing something that we're not, maybe which he
Speaker 1: thinks they should do. Yeah, both, y'all. Do you take
Speaker 1: it personally? Because when you care, you care, you take
Speaker 1: it personal. No, you do care. But I'm saying it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, you can criticize your family, but when somebody else,
Speaker 1: let's say an Eagles fan, come in and talk crap, No,
Speaker 1: don't do that. No no, no, no, no, no the
Speaker 1: whole Derek, No, no, no, no no no no no
Speaker 1: no no no no no. But I'm just waiting to
Speaker 1: see there. I truly believe there's no way that they
Speaker 1: can go into training camp without bringing someone in, like
Speaker 1: Nike has kept saying, so we'll see. There's no way
Speaker 1: they're okay with what they have right now. Rob Phillips,
Speaker 1: I want to see Dave alluded to it, how they
Speaker 1: sort out this wide receiver position, and we're not gonna
Speaker 1: we're not gonna learn it in OTAs and we're not
Speaker 1: gonna see, you know, a lot of a glimpse of
Speaker 1: exactly how they're gonna run this offense. But I want
Speaker 1: to talk to Scott Linehan about how he plans to
Speaker 1: make this offense dak friendly because I think it's gonna
Speaker 1: it's gonna Sorry, sorry, Nick, you take it from there.
Speaker 1: It's exactly what just how are they going to because
Speaker 1: it's a different type of offense potentially with the new
Speaker 1: pieces they've added Tavon Austin, how are how are they
Speaker 1: going to scheme things up a little bit? Uh to
Speaker 1: make it more efficient for Dak because it's all about
Speaker 1: making setting the table for him. They've done it with
Speaker 1: the line up front. You got Zeke back, you hope
Speaker 1: for sixteen games. How are the pieces around him in
Speaker 1: the passing game gonna help? I mean, I think the
Speaker 1: same way about Lenahan. You know, let's let's change it
Speaker 1: up a little bit because last year didn't really work
Speaker 1: as much. You're gonna talk about Dak friendly. I'm echoing
Speaker 1: everything Rob just said, but without witting. They're gonna need
Speaker 1: to do things a little bit more horizontally at first
Speaker 1: and see how it works vertically, if you know. But
Speaker 1: but they need to trick up the playbook a little
Speaker 1: bit more. It's very predictable at times. If we see it.
Speaker 1: You watch a lot of those tape, you know what's coming,
Speaker 1: and I think so does the defensive coordinator. A lot
Speaker 1: of teams. They need to switch it out. I think
Speaker 1: that Tavon Austin things exciting because it's a little different
Speaker 1: move than they've had and maybe, you know, maybe without Witton,
Speaker 1: maybe they can do some different things. But um, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be a hard guy to replace as well. I
Speaker 1: think you guys are all on the right line. I'm
Speaker 1: going to keep an eye on the coaching staff itself.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of turnover at certain positions. We
Speaker 1: talked about the offensive line, there was turnovers. A tight
Speaker 1: Ends coach. You are all pro Hall of Fame tight
Speaker 1: Ends now gone. You know, There's there's changes in the secondary,
Speaker 1: there's changes at linebacker. There's changes all over the place
Speaker 1: with us. I'm interested to see, once we get on
Speaker 1: the field how these coaches interact. You know, we all
Speaker 1: have an idea how Rod Marinelli is going to coach.
Speaker 1: You know, we all have an idea. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a new receivers coach, there's a new tight ends coach,
Speaker 1: new line coach. What will Scott Linahan, how will this
Speaker 1: will this group look different in the way they trying
Speaker 1: to scheme and attack people. I'm interested to see what
Speaker 1: Chris Richard's gonna do. I'm gonna see how hands on
Speaker 1: that he really really is. You know, are the are
Speaker 1: the players, all these young guys responding to how he's coaching.
Speaker 1: You know Ben Bloom, and we've Ben Bloom has gone
Speaker 1: from a guy that was on the bottom of the
Speaker 1: tone and pole one foot in the parking lot. Yeah,
Speaker 1: one foot in the parking lot, to a guy that's
Speaker 1: now your linebacker coach. And we all know what Sean
Speaker 1: Lee is and all that what he brings, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a group. It's gonna be a different group
Speaker 1: of guys playing there. So I'm interested to see how
Speaker 1: these coaches all interact with the players and what maybe
Speaker 1: it will tell us going forward. Until we get into Oxnard,
Speaker 1: we'll have a one chance a week to watch these
Speaker 1: guys every Wednesday. So that's what I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: that time of year. Man, it is off seasons over all, right,
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's about all the time
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