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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with R Radio. Welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. The

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Speaker 1: second to last episode of Peter season where Ashley and

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Speaker 1: I have the pleasure of sitting down with Savannah and

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Speaker 1: Sydney from this season of the Bachelor. But that's not all.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be a wild episode. We're gonna dig

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Speaker 1: into everything that is Peter and Peter's season. Ashley, how

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Speaker 1: are you doing? I am mind boggled? How are you?

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Speaker 1: Why are you mind boggling? And I've never reacted to

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Speaker 1: an episode like I did last night Twist interns, just

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Speaker 1: how total a little bit. I can't believe that after

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Speaker 1: this entire season of saying that Peter's mom Barbara was

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Speaker 1: crying over Madison, I find out that she was crying

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Speaker 1: over Hannah An, the last person I feel like she'd

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Speaker 1: should cry over. Is a little weird. So let's before

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Speaker 1: we bring on our guest for today's podcast, Ashley, Let's

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Speaker 1: start at the beginning. First off, I'm currently on tour

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm in Minneapolis tonight, and I want to

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Speaker 1: tell you this. Actually, I always love sharing this with

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Speaker 1: you because it's true. I was just and we did

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Speaker 1: our Washington stint last week, and you have so many

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Speaker 1: friends and so many fans in Washington. People love you

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Speaker 1: on the Pacific, in the Pacific Northwest. It's so nice.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you to all you guys thinking out

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Speaker 1: That's so sweet, big almost famous fans. It's actually wild

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Speaker 1: how we do these shows and afterwards, how many people

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Speaker 1: come up and say, I listen to your podcast, I

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Speaker 1: love your podcast. My mom and I listen to your podcast.

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Speaker 1: We love our your podcast, listen to it together. So

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Speaker 1: I just want to give you that, Actually you don't

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Speaker 1: get to be around it right now, um like I do.

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Speaker 1: And I just want you to know that you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of people that love you out there. So

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Speaker 1: here's what I think you're people that love you. Expect.

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Speaker 1: Let's break down why this was so emotionally taxing on you,

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Speaker 1: because we expect. I thought you were going to say,

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Speaker 1: on Barbara, I have a couple of theories for Barbara,

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Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about Barbara and her interaction

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Speaker 1: for me because it felt a little bit unwise for

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Speaker 1: her to be so confident in her opinion of Madison

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Speaker 1: what I thought was weird is that she did have

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Speaker 1: more time with Madison then she's had with Hannah Ann,

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Speaker 1: because she got that whole date, the first date of

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Speaker 1: I assumed this entire season that she was crying over Madison,

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Speaker 1: because I was like, that woman has probably thought about

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Speaker 1: Madison the entire season. She's expected him to end up

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Speaker 1: imagine like such an emotional outburst is because she's been

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Speaker 1: tied to this idea for so long. So then to

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Speaker 1: see that she was reacting to um Hannah and being

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Speaker 1: quote a perfect angels sent from Heaven for Peter after

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Speaker 1: easily swayed during this process, and I get it. My

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Speaker 1: mom had a really hard time because you love your son,

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Speaker 1: you want to see what's best for your son. All

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Speaker 1: and love shows up to a house with two women saying, hey, mom,

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Speaker 1: So before we just jump on Barbe's case and we're

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Speaker 1: We're what we're saying is it was odd. It It

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing with their lives. They're

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Speaker 1: So we have Savannah Mullins and Sydney high Tower in

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Speaker 1: Please just remind fans out there as they're listen to

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Speaker 1: memorable moment during Peter's season and then what week you

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Speaker 1: were asked to go back to your family. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: a nice way of putting it. Go see your family now. Um.

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Speaker 1: You obviously have left the season Uh, your experience on

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Speaker 1: and said God told me this, all of a sudden,

429
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 1: my attention rises and my heart starts to get more focused,

430
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: and I go, I need to listen to this. But

431
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,679
Speaker 1: I know that my mom also would walk really slowly

432
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: into that conversation because she knows how much weight it

433
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: would it would carry. I felt like God's name was

434
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: thrown thrown around last night, very loosely, and I don't

435
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: appreciate that. It really is not a good positive communication

436
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: tactic for anybody. And it reminded me of middle school

437
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: all over again. And that was my biggest problem, because

438
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: I do take those moments seriously. I think Madison was

439
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: expressing what she desired and who she was and what

440
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 1: she her concerns were, and so for that to be

441
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: used against her, then I just felt wrong. Jack also, Jack,

442
00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: his brother, said I hated this, said that Maddie was

443
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: raising red flags, and like I was like, okay, so

444
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 1: her wanting to stay a virgin until she's married as

445
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: a red flag for you? Jack? Really weird? Okay, can

446
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: I get it? So like, yeah, let's not listen, And

447
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: and even going back to barbed like, I know Peter,

448
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: and I know he loves his mom, and I know

449
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: his mom mom is loves him well, like I think

450
00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: she's a great mom. I think this is a really

451
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: hard situation. Again, I go back to the difficulty of

452
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: the environment and not as much the difficulty and the

453
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,479
Speaker 1: just kind of the uh, the lack of attention that

454
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: was spent communicating in this moment. I even think it

455
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,240
Speaker 1: happened with his brother. I think his brother there was

456
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: trying to do his best to keep up with the conversation,

457
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 1: to try to fit in where he could, and to

458
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: try to fill in some gaps when it comes to

459
00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: how his family is feeling, and I think as a result,

460
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 1: he was getting a very small picture of Maddie. Yeah.

461
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: In the same conversation, Jack also questions Peter on you know,

462
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 1: not having sex until he's married, if that's like something

463
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: he'd be okay with. It seems like Jack really thinks

464
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: that Peter is not going to make it that far.

465
00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 1: He was like, until you're like really married, until you

466
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: make it like he's like really married, like not engagement

467
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: nerd um, And then he also says that um Madison

468
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,400
Speaker 1: is big on ministry, and you know she probably goes

469
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: to the church multiple times a week and Peter likes

470
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: to go line dancing into the club. It's it was.

471
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I think for anybody watching, this was a

472
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: really difficult experience. Family matters. It really matters to Peter.

473
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: We've seen it all season, and I felt like we're

474
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: all very like anticipatory for this moment, and I felt

475
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: like we walked into it last night and it was

476
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: just brutal to watch the whole time. And we all

477
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: felt for Peter and we all felt for his family.

478
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: And I don't think anything last night anything felt good. Now, Hey, Ashley,

479
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: before we come back and talk to Sydney in Savannah

480
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 1: and we talked more of Peter's first part of the

481
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: FINANCEE Finale Finale Finale, Uh, let's take a break and

482
00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:06,080
Speaker 1: talk about one of our sponsors. Okay. So I was thinking,

483
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: I think in Barb and yeah, we're still talking about

484
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: Barb Okay, a couple of last things about her and

485
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: her thoughts towards Madison and Hannah, And I think it

486
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 1: was just because like Hannah Ann was one crying, Maddie

487
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: wasn't as emotional. Um too, she was like I love

488
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: him and I want like the very best for him,

489
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: and she just she was so Peter centric. She wasn't

490
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: thinking about herself at all. But when Madison was talking

491
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: about herself, she was talking about, you know, her expectations

492
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 1: in a relationship. So I don't think that like that

493
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 1: was anything. I think that's something totally fine to be

494
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: bringing up. Um. But then Hannah Ann says something like

495
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: she goes, it was love at first sight, and and

496
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: nobody and people who haven't experienced love it first sight

497
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,640
Speaker 1: like often things that thinks it's hogwash. And I think

498
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: between all of that that's what made the parents just

499
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: swoon over Hannah. I think that, Um, I don't know.

500
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 1: With Hannah Anne. You know, it's just like she had

501
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: this like very optimistic outlook on the whole thing, and

502
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:20,200
Speaker 1: I think, I mean Maddie Maddie did as well, but um,

503
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. When it came to Maddie, I just

504
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: felt like she I think maybe Barbara might have thought

505
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 1: that she was like making it about herself and not

506
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 1: so much about like Peter, because it's like, you know,

507
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 1: her ultimatum that she's giving him. And sure, I think

508
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: in this moment they were kind of like this is

509
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: all about Peter. This whole show was about Peter and

510
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,880
Speaker 1: Peter finding his happy ending, not two people finding there

511
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: not be ending. Right, You're supposed to be going after

512
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: my son, so why aren't you one in on my son? Absolutely?

513
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: And I think Hannah Anne is the type of woman

514
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: and it's she's always been very just like willing whatever

515
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: Peter said. She's like, I'm here for you no matter what,

516
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, every single thing that she's ever really

517
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: said was just like I no matter what you do,

518
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: I'm here, Like I'm not leaving, I'm not going anywhere.

519
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: And Madison on the other end, is like, look like

520
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: these are my standards and if you, you know, hurt

521
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: me in these ways, I don't know how I'm going

522
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: to be able to do this. So you know, obviously

523
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: that's two huge different sides of the spectrum. So if

524
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: a mother, a mother bears like sitting there seeing this

525
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: or like, well, you know, Madison's gonna be there no

526
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: matter what, and like he's like, they see, I mean,

527
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Hannah, And then they see Madison like wavering

528
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: with him, like telling him, hey, like I don't live

529
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 1: this way and like I won't see my husband being

530
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: this way. So I don't know, Like I'm not a mother,

531
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: but like I would imagine just like protect my son,

532
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: protect my son, and you know, Hannah and has always

533
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: been there and always will be. So I don't know.

534
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I think she's probably felt like she felt short as

535
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: like protecting him, like as far as Hannaby and you

536
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: know how she brought that up, It just made it

537
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: seem like she was afraid that Maddie was going to

538
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 1: leave him, like Hanna Bey did, And so I think

539
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: that's why she was more you know, into Hannah and

540
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: drawn between Hannah b and Madison last night. Yeah, they're

541
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: very strong personality. They loved Hannah by right. I mean,

542
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure they did, but I think that they just

543
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: fear that they're, you know, they're going to leave. You know.

544
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: I think she felt like Maddie was going to leave him,

545
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: and I don't know. That's just kind of what I

546
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: perceived from the last night's episode. Well, we do see

547
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: Maddie leave him. Staffored that conversation before we get into that,

548
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 1: you guys told me a little bit about how Hannah

549
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: Anne is in the house, how you got to know her,

550
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: So tell me more about Madison and what she's like

551
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: when we're not watching her on t ving Maddie is.

552
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I feel like watching her, she kind of seemed a

553
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: little cold in moments, Like you know, she wasn't emotional.

554
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: She's just very I mean, she's very levelheaded and rational.

555
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like she was that person that

556
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: I would go to when you know, this environment just

557
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 1: kind of you get caught up, and she just kind

558
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: of would slow it down for me and just like

559
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: really talk me through it. And um, she's just like

560
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: very kind and compassionate in that way. And um, you

561
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: know she's but she's also this like very strong woman

562
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: and confident and so I think Peter really liked that

563
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: about her. And um, we had a lot of moments.

564
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: We shared a closet together, and so like what I

565
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 1: was like, I know, the bedrooms are small, shared a closet, Okay, yeah,

566
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: like the closet, you know you have like your own

567
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: little like world in there, I guess. But like she

568
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: would always like be doing Bible study and stuff, and um,

569
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: she would just kind of keep to herself but also

570
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: was there when you needed her. So she was just

571
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 1: a really good friend and I really liked her. Yeah,

572
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: I think you mean Madis were both from Alabama and

573
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: just having that similarity and like being able to like

574
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,959
Speaker 1: once this was all over, like see each other and

575
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: just like connect on that level was huge. And us

576
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: also understanding the community that we you know, are rom

577
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: and all the expectation in Madison, you know, doing this

578
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: being who she is. Um, I just commend her so much.

579
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 1: And you know, like you said, she is very sweet,

580
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: very kind, like soft woman, but also she's very headstrong,

581
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: so you know when it came out to this point

582
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: with the fantasy sweets, like you saw that in her. Um,

583
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: and I just I don't know, I she's I love

584
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: her and she's such a good girl. Like yeah, I

585
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: love Maddie for sure. Yeah. One thing, oh sorry, UM,

586
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,200
Speaker 1: one thing about Maddie that I really appreciate it. It was,

587
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: you know, I mean we've seen it on the show,

588
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: but um, you know, in those private moments, like her

589
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: and I would both really you know, just question things

590
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 1: we weren't just like oh yeah, like just along for

591
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: the ride type of thing, like she would be like okay,

592
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: like questioning certain aspects of it. And I don't know,

593
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like that meant like she was really

594
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: taking this seriously and really considering the fact that, yeah,

595
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 1: you are going to be engaged to this person at

596
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: the end, so you have to consider everything. Did you

597
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: feel the strength of their relationship like we do watching it?

598
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 1: It was it was undeniable. I mean, I'm gonna be

599
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 1: honest here, like when you're in the house and you

600
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, you know the girl that he is like

601
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: super connected. I don't know if you felt the same way,

602
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 1: but I like the first three because I was like, like,

603
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 1: it was good. She walks in the room and it

604
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: literally is like nobody, no one out for rom in

605
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: the room. No one else was in the room. And

606
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: I was just like, Okay, this sucks because I am

607
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: dating this guy. But I was like, just don't get

608
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: in your head, Sitney, just like stay focused, don't get

609
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: in her head. But that I always knew, like I'm

610
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 1: just like something, Okay, I'm like I was hoping I

611
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: could get to that level they were at, but you

612
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: know I didn't. But just it was undeniable the moment

613
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: the first week, the first I mean the first one one,

614
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: like it was just undeniable. Their connection undeniable. Now when

615
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: she came home, um, I was actually still a week

616
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: when she came home from their one on one because

617
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: I was getting ready for a group date and I

618
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: saw that she had like a bouquet of flowers and

619
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: she was just like beaming, and I knew, I think

620
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: that that's kind of why I just like held back.

621
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: So I was like, I knew that that connection was

622
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: so strong right after their one on one, and I

623
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: was like, how am I going to discourage to me

624
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: as well? I was just like, hey, I don't. I

625
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: don't every pack your bags ever, it's Maddie. So then

626
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: did you guys just feel both when you were eliminated,

627
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, well I'm gonna go home and people

628
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: are going to ask me who's going to win this season?

629
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: And then you thought in your head, Mattie, so then

630
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: what about Hannah And where do you think she'd place?

631
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I knew she's gonna be that far second is very

632
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: like he there's you just know, I mean, I think

633
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: all of the girls in the house would have this

634
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,719
Speaker 1: have a similar you know response to this, like it

635
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: was just them too always and you know, yeah we

636
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: had connections and things and it was you know, but

637
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: it was never what they had ever like it was

638
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: just so much higher than all of us that we're

639
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like, well, you know, it wasn't not

640
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: surprising at all all. I mean I kind of thought

641
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: that Fuller may end up with him, but still, you

642
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: guys predicted the top three. I could protected the top

643
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: three literally week three. Yeah, okay, that's amazing. Sidney, you

644
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: were talking about how you guys had that connection about

645
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: being from Alabama, and it sounds as if you guys

646
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: have hung out since the filming has ended. I don't

647
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 1: want you to tell me what the ending is, but

648
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm closing my eyes. Do you know the ending? Or

649
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 1: is what Chris Harrison saying by like Peter is gonna

650
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:39,520
Speaker 1: like it's really really ending live tonight? Yes, yes, and yes,

651
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: yes and yes to both of those. Yes, Um, what

652
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison saying. I totally believe that, as well as

653
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: like just things that me and Maddie have shared since

654
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, filming, I yes and yes. Okay, So basically

655
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: you know what the status was throughout the quote off season,

656
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: and you know that like a final decision might be

657
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: made tonight from the Live show. Yeah, I don't think

658
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: that I'm saying anything that wasn't given in that teaser

659
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: and what Chris Harrison wrapped that episode, he was like,

660
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,319
Speaker 1: we're all going to find out what happens tomorrow night

661
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: Live on this so should we should we speculate right now?

662
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean should maybe maybe Sydney should stay out of it.

663
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: I'll stay out of it, okay, I mean yeah, I

664
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: haven't really asked Maddie a lot, like we've texted and everything,

665
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: but I just I didn't want to ask her because

666
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 1: I don't want her to feel pressure to like tell

667
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: me anything. Um. But I mean, I really hope they

668
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: end up together, just because like that love is so

669
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: strong clearly, and I just love Maddie as a person

670
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: so out there together so quick recap you guys, I

671
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 1: mean you all saw it. But Maddie goes on her

672
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: one on one with him after the family visit and

673
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: she says, like, you know, we're just not compatible, Like

674
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: I want this to work so much. She has so

675
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: many great lines. Hold on, let me let me read this.

676
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: She says, ken love conquer all. Being a warrior and

677
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: a good fighter means knowing when to surrender, and she

678
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 1: said it's time to surrender. She goes, I still feel

679
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 1: like love does conquer all because me leaving helps you, Peter,

680
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: come find what you came here for. So um, she

681
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: says that everything changed that night. They have different faith,

682
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: different marriage ideals, different lifestyle. Um, and she just started

683
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: thinking ever since that one night where you know, he

684
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: came to her saying that he had been intimate with

685
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 1: the other two, that everything kind of changed and all

686
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: this she got all this clarity. So she leaves, but

687
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: we see that she comes back. Savannah. Do you think

688
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: that she comes back during the proper season, so before

689
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: that final row ceremony, or do you think that she

690
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: comes back to him after the show has rapped. I

691
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: feel like it's probably after the show is wrapped, just

692
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: because Maddie, I don't know, I don't see her. She

693
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: seems very selfless in those moments, you know, trying to

694
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: let him, you know, do what's best for him. And

695
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 1: so hopefully it's after this season and she can really

696
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: because I know that, like when you when everything is wrapped,

697
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: you just kind of get this clarity. It's and maybe

698
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,760
Speaker 1: she got that. And I do think that Peter sees

699
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: in her, you know, I think he wants to be

700
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: better for her, and I think that like she wants

701
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: somebody that will grow with her and her faith, and

702
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think he wants to grow in his

703
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: faith too and everything. I have a question though, let's

704
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: say let's say that it is Maddie in the end,

705
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: what is going to happen when he asked to like

706
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: bring her home to Barb Like, Maddie, now you know

707
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, how do you sit there? Like

708
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: we see this scene in the teaser where it looks

709
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: like they're sitting at home or they're sitting in a

710
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: suite that isn't there the sweet that they were in

711
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: for the past couple of scenes, And then they're all

712
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: waiting for Peter to walk in the door with someone.

713
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: And then it looks like Barb has another breakdown. And

714
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: it freaks me out that it's because like he walks

715
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: in with Maddie. Imagine this conversation that's I know's gonna

716
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: be okay. But here's the thing, guys, Chris Harrison has

717
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: to sit down with with Peter and says, you are

718
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: you gonna be able to continue with this? Like are

719
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: you too broke heartbroken to continue? I think like Harrison's like,

720
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to pick Maddie, so are you

721
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: going to pick Hannah? And by default now so now,

722
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: I mean I wrote here in my notes so that

723
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: sorry Peter, that he would be an ultimate dumbass if

724
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: he goes and proposes to Hannah. And this episode clearly

725
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: portrays that Madison was his number one pick and that

726
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: that Hannah and will be his second pick. And you

727
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: cannot propose to a woman who's going to eventually see this,

728
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, I imagine like what she's feeling watching this

729
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: back and seeing the conversation that Maddie and Peter had

730
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: right before they walked in to meet Peter's parents, where

731
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: he was just like, let's fix this, whatever we have

732
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: to do, and I'm like, but you're saying this, and

733
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: there's another whole, another human on the other side of this.

734
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 1: And then Maddie leaves and he has his date with Hannah,

735
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: and it's like, does he even like, are we just

736
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: going to hang out? And you know, I don't get it.

737
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 1: Seems a little last ditch effort. You guys, do you

738
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: think that he should have told Hannah Ann that Maddie

739
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: had left. I think it was a great decision that

740
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,919
Speaker 1: he did not tell her, because I think by him

741
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: telling her, she'd be like, oh, okay, so now like

742
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 1: I'm your only option? So am I your default? Girl? Like,

743
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: is this confirmation that like I'll always ponder, yes, if

744
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: I'm your your fallback. It was at Hannah Ann's best

745
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,439
Speaker 1: entrance that he did not tell her for sure, because

746
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: she was already so emotional, so in her head in

747
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: that moment at the you know, they at nighttime. So yeah,

748
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: I think that would have been just a spiral if

749
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: he would have done that. But also it's like, is

750
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: lying I consider that lying? You know. I feel like

751
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: if I were to watch it back and I was

752
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: in Hannah and shoes, I would have And if she

753
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: does end up engage with him and there together, now

754
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: I would be so angry. I would be mortified. If

755
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: I was like in that moment, I was like, I

756
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: look so like I just looks, you know, it looks bad.

757
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Like she's sitting there like pouring her heart out to

758
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: him and he's literally you know, Madison's gone, and he's

759
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: like he doesn't even she still doesn't know what to do,

760
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: and it's just like she's so you know, there for him,

761
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: and it's it's tough. She's Yeah, it's just the way

762
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: that he was like making it very clear that he

763
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 1: was in love with Maddie. Oh. Absolutely, I wouldn't be

764
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: able to if I had an engagement with him. I

765
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: would not be able to move forward with that if

766
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: I was handing in. So he does tell hannah And

767
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: during the nighttime portion of the date, well, actually, she says,

768
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: don't do anything besides choosing me for me and who

769
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: I am. I feel in this moment, she knows that

770
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,320
Speaker 1: it's not her. Um, I think this is like almost

771
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: her partial goodbye. She goes, it's not It's not what

772
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: I want to hear, because he says I'm in love

773
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: with I'm very torn. He says, I'm very torn. My

774
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 1: heart's in two places, and she goes, that's not what

775
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,280
Speaker 1: I want to hear. Um. It seems like she's saying,

776
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm all in, but I know you're half in, and

777
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't think that I can do this, And I

778
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: have a I have a theory, you guys, this was

779
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: a little bit more far fetch. What if Madison and

780
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: what if hannah An feels like she's so second place

781
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: that she just drops out of the race before it

782
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: all and then he's left with no one I think

783
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: of that. Yes, I hope she happen. Literally, I feel

784
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: like that that's what happened. So because yeah, we have

785
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: to think about what Harrison comes up says, because if

786
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,360
Speaker 1: he's coming up to him at that podium, which I

787
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: still I can't believe that Peter would even say Hannah

788
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: and have my final rose at this point, like that's

789
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: that's so wrong in general. But let's just pretend that

790
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: that's what he's planning. Then Harrison comes up and goes

791
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: so we all just found this out, Hannah, and it's

792
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: also and that would be absolutely revolutionary because I don't

793
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: think that that's ever happened on this show, and they

794
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: keep saying that the finale of this is something that's

795
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: ever happened. If he ends up like flip flopping, like

796
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: he ends up getting back with Madison, we've we've seen

797
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: that before twice, but we haven't necessarily seen it in

798
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 1: the way that the girl comes back after the guy

799
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: instead of the guy breaking up with a fiance and

800
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: then going after the girl. So that would be unique.

801
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: So it could still be that, but holy damn man,

802
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: if if he's left with no one at that altar,

803
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 1: how could it be anything else though, like the because

804
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: like it could have been if we didn't see last night,

805
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: it could have been Chris telling Peter that Maddie had left.

806
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: But that's already happened, So what could be that big?

807
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: It's got to be that she leaves because she felt,

808
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 1: you know, the way she was expecting to him the

809
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: night before, Like I yes, and you could tell she

810
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: just felt so defeated. So I I honestly do think

811
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: she leaves, even the way she like closes door and

812
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: said goodbye, She's like by now yeah, Like, I mean,

813
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: we all feel for Peter because clearly he's going through

814
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: a lot, but like I also feel for Hannah and

815
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: and I would be like, this is just a wild situation. Wild.

816
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 1: I should also add that I think Maddie's hair looks

817
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: different in that super tease, and I think that that

818
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: is simple that when she comes back for him, it's

819
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 1: after the fact. You know, she's not coming back to Australia.

820
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I think it's been a while because every girl comes

821
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: back to the show looking a little bit different. On

822
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: women there, um any other things, Yeah, okay, so I

823
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: think we covered all my big notes, but um, I

824
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: have one thing I want to backtrack on that conversation

825
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: that Maddie and Peter have before they go in to

826
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: have family time. I feel like he insinuates that he

827
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: slept with the other two girls because she didn't say

828
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: I love you before Fantasy Suites, and I was like,

829
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: that's yucky, boy, that is yucky. Yeah, I mean I

830
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,440
Speaker 1: don't know that. Honestly. When I was watching that moment,

831
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: I got really emotional because you could feel the love

832
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: between both of them, and yeah, I just he did

833
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: that to me to connect. I'm not kidding, but no,

834
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 1: they really. I mean like you could just like feel

835
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: how much he loved her. And but I do agree

836
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: that's not okay though, Hey, you didn't tell me you

837
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: loved me, so I decided to go and get physical

838
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 1: with two other women. What are you talking about, sir?

839
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: You're literally like, you risk your relationship with her, like

840
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: she asked you something, and it would have been an

841
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: equal playing field. Totally still fine, equal playing field. You

842
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 1: could have waited to stick your in someone ten days later,

843
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: Okay if you had slept with no one and then

844
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: you basically said like, well, because like I wasn't feeling

845
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: that you loved me, you are a grown man. Okay,

846
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: you like, let's not do that. Let's not say oh,

847
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: because you know, Maddie, you're broken and don't know you're

848
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: you're at this level and you didn't tell me you

849
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: loved me. That gives me a reason to go sleep

850
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: with two other women. Like, no, sir, that is not

851
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know your feelings for me. I was like

852
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: just confused exactly how I felt. You know that she's

853
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: traditional enough that she probably just didn't want to say

854
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: I love you until it was just the two of you,

855
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: so she said. But she was like, I you know,

856
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: you can't tell me that you were not torn at

857
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: this point when you're on the other side of this.

858
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: He was like, no, I totally get I totally get it.

859
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: Peter like, what do you mean? I do feel like

860
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: he just I felt like he was kind of justifying it,

861
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: like he to fully explore those relationships he had to sleep.

862
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: Peter just wanted to get down. Let's be real. Peter like,

863
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: come on, okay, well, do you feel like having sex

864
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: with somebody before marriage is going to tell you something

865
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 1: that you need to know before marriage or do you

866
00:44:57,840 --> 00:44:59,879
Speaker 1: can you do you think you can physically tell your

867
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: chemistery before that, like you can tell your physical chistory

868
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 1: and how it's going to be in bed based on

869
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: everything else. Absolutely, yeah, absolutely, I don't. You don't have

870
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: to test the waters like it's not you know what

871
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: I mean. No, I don't send me like I don't

872
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: think that that really defines a relationship. I think that

873
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: you how you feel about each other is defining. It

874
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 1: defines a relation, and it just makes it so much

875
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: pure when it is. You know, I'm not saying that

876
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 1: you have to wait until marriage, but I'm saying like

877
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: this because the fantasy suite's come, does not mean that

878
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: that has to happen. And also like doesn't make it

879
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: anymore pure or not pure if you choose to do

880
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: so or not. You know, it's just like, no, So

881
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: he didn't need to use that week as testing the water.

882
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: He literally could like you end up together, you get engaged,

883
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: take it from there. I think he's just take it

884
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 1: from there. That's just my opinion because I feel like

885
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: every time somebody I think I told said this a

886
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But like Nick viall Was has

887
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: been very open about the fact that he only slept

888
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: with Vanessa in the fantasy suite because he knew that

889
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: if he slept with the other two girls that it

890
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: would become a conflict outside the show with the person

891
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: that he chose. And I really think that that's the

892
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 1: way you gotta do it. No, I agree, I think

893
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: he should have had a little more guidance. I think

894
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: I think Nick, not even Nick, just like any of

895
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: the guys, like, you know, I mean, I'm sure he

896
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,280
Speaker 1: had that guidance, but you know, we didn't see that

897
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: that every season. I feel like some of the old

898
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: Bachelor's like, we'll come back and talk, and I don't know.

899
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: I think that he made a mistake obviously, But I

900
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: think we have to say, isn't it funny that Ben

901
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: got so much controversy saying I love you to two girls,

902
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 1: and now here's Peter be like, I love you, I

903
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 1: love you, I love you, and like and then also, yeah,

904
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 1: all the things, all the things, all right, before we go,

905
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: let's go down the line and say our final predictions. Beforehand,

906
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: I said it was far fetched for for hannah And

907
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: to be leaving, But you know what, now, I'm convinced

908
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I believe that hannah And leaves before the final Rose ceremony.

909
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: That's why Chris Harrison comes up to the podium. That's

910
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: why Um, that's why Peter seems like he's having a

911
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 1: mental breakdown in his his hotel room. And and then

912
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: I think Maddie comes back to Peter at some point

913
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: after he leaves the season alone. All right, that's that's

914
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 1: my prediction. Go ahead, Tonah, I think the exact same thing.

915
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: I think that Um Hannah and finally realizes that he's

916
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: in love with Maddie and leaves Um. And yeah, I

917
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: do think that Maddie. I think that they're probably together.

918
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Maddie comes back, and I do think that

919
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: they're probably together. Now it's probably gonna be a rocky ride,

920
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, especially Maddie like seeing everything back and just

921
00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 1: like reliving all of it. But hopefully they're together. Maddie

922
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: probably comes back because she knows he's not with Hannah.

923
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: And I don't think Maddie is the kind of girl

924
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 1: that's going to try to get in the middle of

925
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: another relationship. She's not going to ruin that for him,

926
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: especially after that whole surrender warrior. I want you to

927
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: come and find what you came here to find. No,

928
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: I agree with both of you, guys. I think in

929
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: that moment we see you know that Peter's breakdown is

930
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: when Hannah Anne leaves, and then I think that other

931
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: teaser when he's having to say I'm so so sorry

932
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: to someone like I'm from the bottom of heart, I'm

933
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: so sorry. It's him apologizing to Hannah and for like

934
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: not being able to like, you know, go through. And

935
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: then after Maddie finds out that they're not together, Maddie's

936
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,959
Speaker 1: going to get her man, Maddie, so get him, girl.

937
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I hope that's all. Yeah, all right, Well you guys,

938
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: you've been in de light and you've given us a

939
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: lot of insight into Hannah and and Maddie. Thank you

940
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: so much for being here having him. Thank you. Okay,

941
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,359
Speaker 1: so this is how we sign up. We do this thing.

942
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: Just follow along. Thank you guys for listening to the

943
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: Almost podcast. Will be back with another episode in a

944
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: couple hours, like legitimately, not even not even twelve full hours.

945
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: I think we are doing Bachelor Finale Part two the

946
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: podcast with a crazy panel of girls. It's gonna be

947
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: a girl's night. We have Crystal, we have Angela, we

948
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 1: have Tasha, Amanda, and Savannah back again to recap the

949
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 1: conclusion of Peter season. It's gonna be wild. Everybody's gonna

950
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: have so many opinions. It's gonna be like a big sleepover,

951
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: all right. So listen then and give us all our

952
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: your feedback. We love you guys so much. I've been Ashley,

953
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Speaker 1: I've been Savannah, I've been Sydney. You guys got it

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