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Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody? Walk up and move the sticks? DJ,

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Speaker 1: Bucky back with you as we are officially as of

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Speaker 1: we're recording this buck nine minutes into the free agent market.

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Speaker 2: Here.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Bud.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm good.

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Speaker 3: Free agency Frenzy really excited about this. This is a

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Speaker 1: You know that we had plans to try and get

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Speaker 1: But there's lots of news going around, including I would

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Speaker 3: Buck love this move. I thought this was a perfect

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Speaker 2: And even though.

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Speaker 3: People will talk about I mean, I guess the best

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Speaker 3: So Russell just has to play his part. He doesn't

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Speaker 3: this is a situation that I believe it take Russell

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. Let me lay out a bunch of

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Speaker 1: reasons why I like this, because sometimes you know, and

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Speaker 2: But I do know this.

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Speaker 3: I know that Russell went from being at NC State

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Speaker 3: There's never been any question about the work that Russell

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Speaker 3: He's not afraid to stand in it, in front of

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Speaker 2: I think this works.

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Speaker 3: The other reason why things were he is, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: I think he might have the most. He might have

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Speaker 3: do that. But my look, the way that they say

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Speaker 2: Russell Wilson's gonna be the starting quarterback for the PITTSBORTHSA.

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Speaker 2: That's just what it is.

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Speaker 3: And then it's a matter of Arthur Smith put him

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Speaker 3: And then when we look at the numbers, right, three years,

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Speaker 1: What do you think about this? I was thinking about

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Speaker 2: Why why do we.

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Speaker 3: We can still get away with it. Will change the

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Speaker 3: you would have to say that the Buccaneers are the.

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Speaker 3: You think about another year with Baker Mayfield. I will

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Speaker 3: say this, the Buccaneers need to upgrade their running game

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Speaker 2: They have to have a little more.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's hey, this is kind of fun because we

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Speaker 3: This is all about building the team up for Kayleb Williams,

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Speaker 3: It changes everything, and so they have to be comfortable

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Speaker 3: But I think what I'm trying to get when I

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Speaker 3: been around that. And so Doug goes to Philly and

437
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Speaker 3: gets what Howie Roseman, what did Harry Roseman say, we

438
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Speaker 3: want to be the quarterback factory. We want to build

439
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Speaker 3: quarterbacks like this is what we're going to be in.

440
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Speaker 3: So Carson Wentz, Nick Foles, Jalen Hurts, all of those

441
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Speaker 3: guys turned out to be players for them, and they

442
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Speaker 3: all turn out to be valuable trade commodities. So when Jacksonville,

443
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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson now has an opportunity where he has two

444
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Speaker 3: first round quarterbacks on the roster. One is his franchise

445
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Speaker 3: quarterback in Trevor Lawrence, another one Mac Jones. I'll say this,

446
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 3: he's a better player than the backup CJ. Betham, and

447
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Speaker 3: there's nothing wrong with saying it. He also is young

448
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,720
Speaker 3: enough where knock on with Trevor Lawrence. Let's just say

449
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Speaker 3: he gets hurt, he misses a game or whatever because

450
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Speaker 3: he's sick. Trevor Lawrence goes to the sideline and Mac

451
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Speaker 3: Jones plays and plays well.

452
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Speaker 2: That little sample size.

453
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Speaker 3: Could be enough for you to either rate them away,

454
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Speaker 3: get away with some wins, or do some other stuff

455
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Speaker 3: and bring back some compensatory picks in return.

456
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Speaker 2: So to me, there's nothing to lose.

457
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Speaker 3: You always want to have quarterbacks to develop multiple quarterbacks

458
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Speaker 3: in the hopper. You just never know what's going to

459
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Speaker 3: happen to me. Look, this is a no brainer. You

460
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Speaker 3: take that a six round pick isn't guaranteed to make

461
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Speaker 3: your team. Look, I just think it's all upside on

462
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Speaker 3: this mode.

463
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Speaker 1: So I'm going to spin around to you with a

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Speaker 1: question because I think that I've had a little bit

465
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Speaker 1: of a shift on this. Like we always talk about,

466
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Speaker 1: the most important ability is availability, Right, we hear it

467
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Speaker 1: every year. Now that we're in a seventeen season, Buck,

468
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Speaker 1: and we've got an extra team in the playoffs, and

469
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Speaker 1: it can go. It can be such a long year.

470
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this going the last look at the

471
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Speaker 1: Jags last four games. Okay, I was just pulling up

472
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Speaker 1: the numbers while you're talking. You know, the losing strength

473
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Speaker 1: they went on. But just the last four games, Trevor

474
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Speaker 1: had seven touchdowns and seven picks. I mean seven picks. Buck.

475
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Speaker 1: He didn't throw for over He had one game where

476
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Speaker 1: he threw for I guess he got he had one

477
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Speaker 1: for two to eighty. But his numbers were way down.

478
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Speaker 1: He was beat up, he was hurt. So with this

479
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Speaker 1: season being now seventeen games, don't you think as a

480
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Speaker 1: team builder, you say, hey, you know what, not only

481
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Speaker 1: do I want to invest in a backup quarterback in

482
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Speaker 1: case my guy literally can't go. I want to be

483
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Speaker 1: able to encourage my coach and be like, hey, we

484
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Speaker 1: need to get him healthy, sit his butt down. I

485
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Speaker 1: don't I'm not chasing the streak here. We're not chasing

486
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Speaker 1: the Brett favrestreak. I want to be ready to go

487
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Speaker 1: so we can get into the postseason and be at

488
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Speaker 1: our best once we get there. We have Mac Jones

489
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Speaker 1: now who started games of one games in this league.

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Speaker 1: Give Trevor two weeks, let him get fully held health,

491
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Speaker 1: and then we'll be backing and rolling. But this iron

492
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Speaker 1: man tough guy thing ain't working like this. It's too

493
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Speaker 1: long season.

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Speaker 3: So it's something like he couldn't practice, like like maybe

495
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Speaker 3: the last four weeks he couldn't really like fully practice

496
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Speaker 3: with the team. He was really beat up to the

497
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Speaker 3: point where every week was a game time decision. You

498
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Speaker 3: just didn't know what was going to happen. If you

499
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Speaker 3: feel more confident about your backup quarterback, it is, hey,

500
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Speaker 3: let me. I'm just letting you know, Trevor, you're not

501
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Speaker 3: gonna play this week. We'll let you get up. We

502
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Speaker 3: can give you ten days to get right work on

503
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Speaker 3: whatever the situation is, we're going to win the game.

504
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Speaker 3: We have enough talent in the room where we can

505
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Speaker 3: we can run our same game plan. We don't have

506
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Speaker 3: to like like hey, just just kind of bunker bunker

507
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Speaker 3: in and say that we can't go get it. No,

508
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Speaker 3: we have a first round quarterback that is playing. We

509
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Speaker 3: want to make sure that we can continue to run

510
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Speaker 3: our offense. I think we've said this in the past, DJ,

511
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Speaker 3: we said like with the length of the season, even

512
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Speaker 3: because I think we talked about in Baltimore and how

513
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Speaker 3: important it is for Look, if I'm Baltimore, given the

514
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Speaker 3: mac Jones thing, if I'm Baltimore, I am calling Chicago.

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Speaker 1: To get a backup quarterback, Like even if it was

516
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Speaker 1: just for one year, even if you don't pick up

517
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Speaker 1: the fifth year option, to say, hey, this year will

518
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Speaker 1: cost me hurt anything.

519
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Speaker 3: Right, And like just giving the conversation you talking about

520
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Speaker 3: a six round pick. I want to make sure that

521
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Speaker 3: in every game I go to that I have a

522
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Speaker 3: legitimate starting quarterback in the fold. We saw how the

523
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Speaker 3: Coats were able to navigate the season because they had

524
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Speaker 3: Garner Minshew behind Anthony Bridges. You just need to have

525
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Speaker 3: a starting caliber quarterback in the hopper. Mac Jones gives

526
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Speaker 3: them that. And for mac Jones, he comes back to

527
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Speaker 3: his hometown, he gets an opportunity to work with a

528
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Speaker 3: guy that's a respected quarterback developer and Doug Peterson, he

529
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Speaker 3: has a chance to rebuild and repair his image in

530
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Speaker 3: his career while playing for a team.

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Speaker 2: This should have some playoff aspirations.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a are you eighty percent? If you're

533
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Speaker 1: eighty percent, will get you out there. But if you're

534
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Speaker 1: telling me you're fifty percent, you're sitting. We're going to

535
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Speaker 1: get the other guy in there. And that is a

536
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Speaker 1: great call on Justin Fields and Baltimore if it literally

537
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Speaker 1: if they are just going to clear the runway and

538
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Speaker 1: you know, Justin Fields, the market doesn't materialize. If you're

539
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Speaker 1: the Ravens who have a million compicks every single year,

540
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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, I don't know, is that is

541
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Speaker 1: that enough? If there's no market for Justin Fields, I

542
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Speaker 1: would at least call and be like, hey, fourth round pick.

543
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Speaker 1: Even if we don't, we won't pick up his fifth

544
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Speaker 1: year option. We don't want to take that risk. But

545
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Speaker 1: the chances are he's probably going to start two games

546
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Speaker 1: for us this year. Yeah, and we win those two games.

547
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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a fourth round pick.

548
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Speaker 3: The two teams that over say should be into Justin

549
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Speaker 3: Fields market to Baltimore Ravens and the Philadelphia Equals. Given

550
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Speaker 3: the situation with both of their starting quarterbacks, I would

551
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Speaker 3: make sure, hey, like we have enough to do it,

552
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Speaker 3: We're going to be in the business. Philadelphia and Baltimore

553
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Speaker 3: should make the call to see if Justin Fields is available.

554
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Speaker 1: It's a great move Jalen. Think about Jalen, how beat

555
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Speaker 1: up he was last year. They kept running him out there,

556
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Speaker 1: like you feel confident to be like, hey, we got

557
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields. Man, You're you're paid, You're our guy, You're

558
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Speaker 1: a made man. Like, don't don't worry about that. Just

559
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Speaker 1: get healthy. Sit, let's sit, let's take it easy for

560
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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, and let's get you healthy.

561
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Speaker 2: And I think, because what I'm weighing now, like like match.

562
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Speaker 1: We just stumbled onto something. By the way, you think,

563
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Speaker 1: what have we stumbled on? Time? No, I just think

564
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Speaker 1: we did. I just think this whole conversation, I think,

565
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Speaker 1: just think. I think you gotta think different now. You

566
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,439
Speaker 1: can't think of you know, the Philip Rivers that you know,

567
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: just posting every every single week, and Brett Favre and

568
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, Ross like, nah, hey, it's it's too long.

569
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Speaker 1: The season's too long. Man, Like we I'd rather have

570
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Speaker 1: you great for fourteen weeks than to have you great

571
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Speaker 1: for nine weeks and beat up for you know, another

572
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Speaker 1: eight weeks.

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Speaker 2: I think we're at the time. I think we do

574
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Speaker 2: a lot of lip service.

575
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Speaker 3: Like I think team builders do a lot of lip

576
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Speaker 3: service to knowing that the quarterback position is the most

577
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Speaker 3: important position.

578
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Speaker 2: But then we don't do enough to back it up.

579
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Speaker 3: We don't do enough to give the team a chance

580
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Speaker 3: to win if the starter goes down.

581
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Speaker 2: We've seen in the last two years.

582
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Speaker 3: In each of the last two years, there's been over

583
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Speaker 3: sixty five, sixty eight different quarterbacks that have started games. Like,

584
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Speaker 3: if you just break it down to thirty two teams,

585
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Speaker 3: that means like every team is playing two quarterbacks, So

586
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Speaker 3: you better have another quarterback that can play to give

587
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Speaker 3: yourself a chance. And I think, look, you the team build,

588
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Speaker 3: it is your responsibility to make sure that the team

589
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Speaker 3: has a chance in all situations. And if you're a coach,

590
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,440
Speaker 3: you want to be in the business of developing that

591
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 3: position because it's so valuable not only to your current success,

592
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Speaker 3: but to what it could help the team bring back

593
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Speaker 3: in return if you develop a player that eventually turns

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Speaker 3: out to be a marketable player that you can auction.

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Speaker 1: Up, no doubt. All right, let's take a quick break

596
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Speaker 1: and then we'll come back here see if we have

597
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Speaker 1: any more breaking news, and we'll break down a couple

598
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Speaker 1: of these other moves that have taken place as we

599
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Speaker 1: just kick off free agency. It is hot and heavy

600
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Speaker 1: here in the NFL fun time of year. We'll give

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Speaker 1: you back right after this. All right, Buck, a couple

602
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Speaker 1: of things here. You tell me if I'm crazy for

603
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: connecting these. We've got a couple franchise guys that you've

604
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Speaker 1: heard at least some trade speculation about. Okay, Brian Burns

605
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Speaker 1: from the Carolina Panthers. We've talked in the past about

606
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Speaker 1: the need for them to transfer resources from the defensive

607
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: side of the ball to the offensive side of the

608
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Speaker 1: ball so they can properly evaluate Bryce Young and see

609
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Speaker 1: what they have there. You know, they're gonna have to

610
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Speaker 1: do what they can stretch their dollars and free agency,

611
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Speaker 1: but I think you also have to look at what

612
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Speaker 1: assets you might have on the defensive side of the ball,

613
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Speaker 1: and hey, look, if you suck on defense next year,

614
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Speaker 1: but Bryce Young takes a step forward, that's a good

615
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: year for the Carolina Panthers. You cannot go to another

616
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 1: year where you can't even evaluate the guy. So Burns'

617
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: name has been mentioned. It was said, you know, there

618
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Speaker 1: was rumors out there they could have got two first

619
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: round picks from the Rams previously. Did they wait too long?

620
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Speaker 1: You know who knows. The other one that just came

621
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Speaker 1: up today was that t Higgins not happy they haven't

622
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Speaker 1: approached him with the contract he's been tagged there in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Jamar Chase is kind of the number one there,

624
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Speaker 1: but Tie Higgins has been an outstanding receiver. I just

625
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: looking at two things totally unrelated, and I'm sitting here

626
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Speaker 1: going like, is there some type of a deal that

627
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Speaker 1: could be made for two franchise guides? Like you think

628
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: about a perfect You put Brian Burns on a Cincinnati

629
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Speaker 1: team that's a win now team on the opposite side

630
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Speaker 1: of Trey Hendrickson. Hey, that's that's a fun fit. And

631
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Speaker 1: then you have Bryce Young say hey, we're gonna go

632
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Speaker 1: ahead and and bring you a guy who played his

633
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: college football. What what what is that an hour and

634
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Speaker 1: a half from here down the block? Yeah, right down

635
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Speaker 1: the street. And te Higgins would be happy to come

636
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Speaker 1: in there and be his his number one wide receiver.

637
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Speaker 1: To me, I don't know. I was just looking at

638
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 1: those two things and I don't know if there's anything

639
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: there at all, but I just man, I can look,

640
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: I can make a strong case that they could each

641
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Speaker 1: win in that type of a scenario.

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00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly could benefit from from that. The Carolina

643
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 3: Panthers definitely need a big time receiver on the outside

644
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: the hip with Bryce Young's ongoing development. And then you

645
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: think about what the Cincinnati Bengals could if they had

646
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Speaker 3: just a Burner opposite Trey Henderson and what they.

647
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Speaker 2: Would be able to do.

648
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lou and Aroumo and he's done a really good

649
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Speaker 3: job of theat what he's had in front of him.

650
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Speaker 3: But just like a speed rusher that can legitimately get

651
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Speaker 3: you double digit sex opposite Tree, and I mean, you

652
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Speaker 3: could have code number ones when it comes to the

653
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Speaker 3: designated pass rusher.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what kind of deal could be.

655
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Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine you're going to have a

656
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Speaker 1: pass rusher is going to have more value than a receiver,

657
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Speaker 1: so there's got to be something else that comes along

658
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: with that. It's complex, it's complicated. Likelihood very low, but

659
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Speaker 1: I just thought you could make a case for those

660
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: being great fits for each of those two individual players.

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Speaker 2: They would be great fits for each team.

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Speaker 3: And we just talked about the value of pass rushes,

663
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Speaker 3: which actually brings me to this. We saw Chris Jones

664
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Speaker 3: signing a mega deal over the course of the weekend,

665
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Speaker 3: and for the Kan City Chiefs, the debate was, hey,

666
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Speaker 3: do we have had pay the past rusher or the

667
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,239
Speaker 3: defensive playmaker in Lugerious Snee. We saw how that turned out.

668
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Speaker 3: They made sure that they got Chris Jones wrapped up

669
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Speaker 3: and done. But it kind of goes back to a

670
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Speaker 3: conversation that we've had before about whether you invest in

671
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Speaker 3: the front end or the back end when you're building

672
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Speaker 3: your teams. And it looks like the Kan City Chiefs

673
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 3: certainly understand and the value in having dominant players in

674
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Speaker 3: the trenches.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm looking at it too, going you know, as

676
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Speaker 1: we look to see if there's any updates here on

677
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Speaker 1: any of these guys signing. Oh, the Vikings are signing

678
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Jonathan Greenard from the Texans, who had a big year

679
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Speaker 1: last year.

680
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Speaker 2: Yeah, really good.

681
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: They get some they get some juice, which obviously means

682
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: Daniel hunter Is is going to move on. I've heard

683
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Speaker 1: his name mentioned with the forty nine ers prominently, so

684
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, I think you'll see the value of these

685
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: big guys going off the board quick. If you can

686
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Speaker 1: rush the passer, you get to move to the front

687
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Speaker 1: of the line. And that's why when we talk about

688
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: that Chris Jones contract and Matta bk got his deal done.

689
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: If i'm if I'm Christian Wilkins, man, I'm just like,

690
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Laura. You got me to the market.

691
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: I literally got the Miami Dolphins. Let me get to

692
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: the market. Are you kidding me? And Chris Jones, that

693
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: contract shows too buck like, as unbelievably great as it

694
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Speaker 1: is to have a dominant edge rusher, you can work,

695
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: you can there's things you can do against them. You

696
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: can get back tight ends, we can get it, we

697
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: can move the pocket. You can't get away from Chris Jones,

698
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: you can't get away from Christian Wilkins. You can't get

699
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: away from Justin Mattabek because it's there there, you were

700
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: staring them in the face when you're taking a snap.

701
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Speaker 1: That's a different that's a whole different world. And those

702
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: guys are hard to find.

703
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: Hard to find.

704
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: You remember a couple of years ago we talked about

705
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 3: how the league had shifted, right. It went from being

706
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 3: a league where you wanted multiple pass rushers, but both

707
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: on the outside, to now you want, in a perfect world,

708
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: one guy on the outside, but someone up the middle

709
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: because the balls coming out so quick that you got

710
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 3: to be able to get in the face of the

711
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 3: quarterback right away. And the deals reflect maticwi K Chris Jones,

712
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 3: the money that Christian Wilkins is eventually going to get.

713
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Speaker 2: One of the most valuable players.

714
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Speaker 3: That you can find is an interior pass rusher that

715
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Speaker 3: can dominate the game.

716
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: It is. It is just the way that the league

717
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: is going.

718
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,479
Speaker 3: You have to have someone that can pressure it up

719
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: the gut because if you come off the edge and

720
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 3: your firm up front, you still can get the ball off,

721
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: but now by having one of each, and interior disruptor

722
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: and someone on the outside. That's kind of the way

723
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 3: that you have to build your team to build a

724
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 3: dominant defense.

725
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: All Right, This is fun.

726
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Speaker 1: I'm just throwing these at your real time, buck. This

727
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,719
Speaker 1: is another one we just had come down. How about this?

728
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: The second running back is gone. Now Tony Pollard goes

729
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: to the Tennessee Titans, so he's gonna pair up with

730
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: ty J. Spears. That's the end of the Dereck Henry era.

731
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: But what do you think on this? To me? Is

732
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Speaker 1: this is this a case of Hey, if you're a

733
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: running back and this market is stacked, like there's.

734
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Speaker 3: I'm going I'm not going yes.

735
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: And and and that's on the player side, on the

736
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: team side of things. If I'm calling these dudes, I'd

737
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: be like, hey, listen, you're Tony Pollard's agent. Hey, just

738
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: so you know, I got the same dollars, and I

739
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: got it out to four dudes, first one, first one.

740
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: We're done. I mean, this is crazy. We got two

741
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: running backs off the board like this.

742
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: I think they used to talk about Pittsburgh when Pittsburgh

743
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: had to do to deal with either Mike Wallace and

744
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: Antonio Brown.

745
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 2: Hey, same office on the table. Whoever takes it first.

746
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: That's it.

747
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: We're rolling, and we're rolling.

748
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: And with the running backs, you talk about like supplying

749
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 3: the man there's so many guys on the market those

750
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 3: first deals. Hey, man, this is all I got, guys.

751
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: I'm putting it.

752
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: Out there for everybody, and whoever says yes, it's gonna

753
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: be the do Tony Poulam was like, yeah, I'm not waiting.

754
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: I'm not waiting. We're taking this right now.

755
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: And I think there's I think there's also there's two

756
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: strategies right. The first one is I'm gonna put the

757
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: same deal out to the top four guys. So say,

758
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: let's say there's ten running backs that are you know

759
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 1: that you really like in the market. You can jump

760
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 1: out there or you can sit back and say, I'm

761
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: gonna let these other seats get filled. And then at

762
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: the end, now now I go, okay, now you got

763
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Now you've got to come to me because now these

764
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: other spots have been filled. Man, So now your number

765
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: just went down. Yeah.

766
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 3: Because some teams, they won't even get involved in the

767
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: first weekend.

768
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 2: Ah, we'll talk to you about a week we see.

769
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Speaker 1: I talked to a G I talked to a GM

770
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Speaker 1: yesterday that was I won't say vacationing, but he was

771
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: not uh, he was not in the office. Let's just

772
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: put it that way, and I was like, well, I

773
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: know you guys aren't coming out the gates hot.

774
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I get to him. I get to him

775
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: maybe Wednesday at Thursday. Will we'll send a text out

776
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: there like what's uh there?

777
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: There is some value to that. And when you have

778
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 2: a lot of uh, guy, it's kind of hit the

779
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: open market, hit the streets. It's gonna be a situation

780
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 2: like that.

781
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: By by the way, as we as we kind of

782
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: wrap this one up and again, we'll uh, we'll be

783
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: back next week and we'll have a ton of this

784
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: stuff to dig into. But can we just say one thing, Uh, Baseball,

785
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: you guys are screwed up, Like Pla Snell and Jordan

786
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: Montgomery and JD Martinez. They haven't even signed yet. The

787
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: season starts in like ten days like the NFL. This

788
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: is like an event like the NF free agency kicks off,

789
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: and it's just boom boom boom boom boom boom, Like

790
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: how dumb is Baseball? Like we're gonna have NFL free

791
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 1: agents are signing before Baseball free agents their free agency

792
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: opened in December.

793
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: It is it is kind of crazy, how that is.

794
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 3: I will say, like the National Football League is king.

795
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 3: They made everything big. It just comes on the heels

796
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 3: like a week ago, two weeks ago, we just see

797
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 3: the combine. The combine draws major numbers to watch people

798
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 3: run around and test.

799
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Speaker 2: In those things.

800
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: Now we have a free agency frenzy where everyone is

801
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: just sitting around looking at.

802
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: The two waiting for the tickle to come.

803
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then in another month we're gonna have the

804
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 3: NFL Draft and everyone's gonna sit around for three days

805
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 3: and just watch names come off the board.

806
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: It is. Don't forget about schedule release, don't forget about

807
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: the schedule release after that.

808
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 3: It's just amazing, and I appreciate it because, like you

809
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 3: guys obviously listen to the show, you're.

810
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: Passionate football fans. But the National Football.

811
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: League has done a great job of creating these tent

812
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 3: pole events where everyone feels like you gotta be involved,

813
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 3: and if you're not involved early, you feel like you're

814
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 3: missing out because there's gonna be some fan bases where

815
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: if their team doesn't sign a marquee name, oh, the

816
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 3: whole fan base.

817
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: Is gonna go abslutely crazy. What are we doing? We're

818
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 2: falling behind? You know?

819
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 3: So kind of funny, Oh, what do you think about

820
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy going to j jud going, oh yeah, we is.

821
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: I saw like, man, like there's a lot of people

822
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: that are passionately hate Jerry Judy in the media, Like

823
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: I saw him catching all kinds of grief. But I'm

824
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: sitting here going was it a fifth and a sixth

825
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: round pick?

826
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 2: What are we talking about?

827
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing here? Like guy's town and

828
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 1: and the other thing. I think when you look at

829
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 1: the successful moves, and we talked about it a bunch,

830
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: it's been woven through this this podcast, but you know, like, hey,

831
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: there's a Wisconsin connection, there's a Virginia connection with Russell Wilson,

832
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: Like we talked about those connections, Like there's the Alabama

833
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: connection Amari Cooper. Jerry Judy, like, take him right under

834
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: his wing. He's still young. I mean, he's got ability.

835
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: Buck I've seen him, they see him twice a year

836
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: in the division. I know he hasn't been anything close

837
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: to what he was to be. But the guy's talented,

838
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: but he's but now he's casting a role that is

839
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: probably best for him.

840
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 3: When you draft Jerry Judy, when you draft him, you

841
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,240
Speaker 3: expect him to be the number one receiver. He goes

842
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 3: to Cleveland, he's playing opposite of Amari Cooper.

843
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper is the number one.

844
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 3: He becomes the number two, So now he falls into

845
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: his natural position in the pecking order. You're right, I

846
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 3: didn't even think about the Alabama connection in terms of

847
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 3: a MARII Cooper being able to mentor and kind of

848
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: talk to him and kind of get.

849
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 2: Him on his thing. To me, the best general managers are.

850
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 3: The ones that are able to look around and say, Okay,

851
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: what's this what's the value on this? Oh, I get

852
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 3: this player versus what I could get in the draft

853
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 3: at that pick. And remember what do we say about

854
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 3: this draft. We talked about this draft falling off a

855
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 3: cliff once you get to the third round, that fourth, fifth, sixth,

856
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: seventh round, that everyone is saying, Hey, it's a lot

857
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 3: weaker than it's been in the past because of the

858
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: residual of COVID or whatever. There's a reason why these

859
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: teams are parting with these picks readily, because they're looking

860
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 3: at the draft guys and be like, oh, we're good.

861
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: I'll take the proven player over what could be.

862
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: That's what we no doubt, no doubt, And I think

863
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: there's there's a way to look at free agency too.

864
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: I think that's helpful for for people that are listening.

865
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: The need is one thing, the fit is the more

866
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: important things. So when you see fits, look at players

867
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: who have a history playing for these coaches or in

868
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: these particular schemes. There are some there's it's a copycat league,

869
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: as everybody knows, so there are certain you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a handful of teams that run the same defense. There's

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Speaker 1: you know, probably a dozen teams that run the same offense.

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Speaker 1: So finding guys who have history there, finding guys who

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Speaker 1: have relationships there, that's usually gonna lead to the you know,

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Speaker 1: to the idea of whether or not they're going to

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Speaker 1: be successful or not. So just something keep an eye

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Speaker 1: on as we go through this. But it's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to watch all these names come flying off

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Speaker 1: the board and we'll see, you know, we'll see what

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Speaker 1: else ends up shaking out. Buck. I have a feeling

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Speaker 1: there's a there's some big news coming here soon, so

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Speaker 1: in terms of these signings, and I think we'll see

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Speaker 1: some trade action and some big names hopefully, and we'll

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Speaker 1: have a chance to break that down once that once

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Speaker 1: that all happens. But anything else you want to add

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Speaker 1: before we jump out of here.

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Speaker 2: No, man, it was fun.

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Speaker 3: I mean anytime like we can get go freezing prison.

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Speaker 3: The fact that we've been doing in real time with

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Speaker 3: signings and all this other stuff like that, it's almost

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Speaker 3: like it was almost like doing a draftcast.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Man, it's good stuff. I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys have enjoyed listening to it again. And this was

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Speaker 1: just kind of a free flowing let's let's react in

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Speaker 1: real time to what was going down. But a really

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Speaker 1: fun episode. And hey, who knew running backs? It's running

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Speaker 1: back world. We're just living in it. Buck, Get these

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Speaker 1: running backs off the board, all right, everybody, we appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Hang with us.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Right here on, Move the

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Speaker 1: stick