WEBVTT - Will the Seattle Mayor Be Recalled?  | NLP Replay

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<v Speaker 1>Native lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>Reason Choice Media.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to use example of our Seattle mayor

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason for that is yet again, yet the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking she has found.

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<v Speaker 3>Herself being called up for a recall.

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<v Speaker 2>This woman beat a black mayor whose politics are mostly aligned,

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<v Speaker 2>but he wanted to keep the police force. She kept

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<v Speaker 2>the police chief. She threatened to fire Black chief Shawn

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<v Speaker 2>Barnes several times.

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<v Speaker 3>Over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>She decides that she wants to fire Sewan Barnes, this

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<v Speaker 2>time right on the other side of a mass shooting

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<v Speaker 2>at the bite of Seattle while there's a murder investigation

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<v Speaker 2>that's open. Sewan Barnes is at the National Organization for

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<v Speaker 2>Black Law Enforcement at the time this crisis happens, and

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<v Speaker 2>no less, she decides this is finally her window to

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<v Speaker 2>fire him, since she wanted to do it before FIFA, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, Nick, I don't know if we have

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<v Speaker 2>any of the headlines. My family organizes around trying to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure she knows that she can't fire him.

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<v Speaker 3>We get black leaders in to see her.

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<v Speaker 2>The day that she's supposed to fire him, she postpones

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<v Speaker 2>it several hours well, her initial offer was a twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars severance package to this man.

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<v Speaker 3>Because of the pressure.

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<v Speaker 2>Applied, he ended up with seven hundred and ninety thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars of taxpayers money, no job, and he got to

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<v Speaker 2>pick his replacement. Who is deputy chief Andre. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>think of Andrea's last name right now. Sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 2>be too left to know anything. You could be too

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<v Speaker 2>right to know anything. Sometimes you can be too in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle to know anything.

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<v Speaker 4>That's confident idology's I agree with that, but also some

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<v Speaker 4>of what she stands on ten toes down is ideology

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<v Speaker 4>that some people have actually put deep thought.

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<v Speaker 2>Into implementation, and she's not done that. She has targed

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<v Speaker 2>there are people who are very progressive who don't represent

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<v Speaker 2>the best interest of black folks. We know what the

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<v Speaker 2>conservative you know paradigm is. It's awful, but she's one

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<v Speaker 2>of them. She has targeted black people. You don't fire

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<v Speaker 2>people on maternity leave. That certainly violates the standards that

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<v Speaker 2>working family stands for. And I just I want there

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<v Speaker 2>to be something for y'all where you can go back

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<v Speaker 2>and say this was a mistake for us. This is

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<v Speaker 2>not someone who represents our values. I'm a black man

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<v Speaker 2>at the top of this amazing entity, and she would

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<v Speaker 2>fucking fire you, mo like that's what we're dealing. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just being honest with you. There's one there are two

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<v Speaker 2>black people left in her administration and senior roles Duayne

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<v Speaker 2>Chappelle and our fire chief Dwayne Chappelle's over education that

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<v Speaker 2>is abysmal.

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<v Speaker 3>Should if work is.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's about working families and ensuring parody and access

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<v Speaker 2>and equity, then that means you cannot turn your black.

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<v Speaker 3>You're black, you can't turn your.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying my dad started Connor Shady Katie, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right there with him, because it is it is

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<v Speaker 2>impossible to understand what this woman stands for beyond be

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<v Speaker 2>like she is enjoying being incompetent, enjoying lying to the media.

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<v Speaker 2>She is now being put on blast because she's firing

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<v Speaker 2>She fired the police chief. But she's the one that

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<v Speaker 2>held up the press conference and told them they cannot

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<v Speaker 2>have the press. The press conference that's out now, that's

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<v Speaker 2>public testified under oath.

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<v Speaker 3>She gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>Tventy five thousand is all it takes for a recall.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'd love to hear y'all say this one we

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<v Speaker 2>got wrong.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, this is what I will say, he might this

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<v Speaker 5>is this is this is what I will say. Right,

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<v Speaker 5>We endorse, folks, We endorse more than a thousand people

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<v Speaker 5>right every single cycle, just like and just like the

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<v Speaker 5>just like the Democratic Party or the Republican Party.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and.

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<v Speaker 5>Once those endorsed candidates are governing, you have a thousand

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<v Speaker 5>governing experiment experiments.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>What we do, and we do this a lot behind

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<v Speaker 5>closed doors with our folks, is we do have accountability

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<v Speaker 5>conversations with our people. We do have serious, like real

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<v Speaker 5>deal like this is what we established. This is where

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<v Speaker 5>we are, conversations that happen day in and day out

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<v Speaker 5>because we really do care about governing. I can't speak

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<v Speaker 5>to all of the details here, but the thing that

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<v Speaker 5>I will say is that you know, healthy parties are

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<v Speaker 5>also self correcting and also are transparent about about where

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<v Speaker 5>we're going, where we're trying to go, and where the

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<v Speaker 5>distance is between those two things. But what I will

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<v Speaker 5>say is what you brought up I don't think fits within.

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<v Speaker 5>The reason why I said what does two left mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>Is that you know I hear a lot especially I'm

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<v Speaker 5>like on cable news. I hear all of this kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like I don't know, redbaiting about like you know,

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<v Speaker 5>communism and socialism. When you look at the candidates they're

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<v Speaker 5>talking about like healthcare and child these majoritarian positions, like

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<v Speaker 5>the things that they're running on are healthcare, childcare jobs

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<v Speaker 5>like uh, taxing billionaires, all majoritarian positions. Where are the

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<v Speaker 5>left positions that are too left for the mainstream right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing that I struggle with.

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<v Speaker 2>Abolishing the police, putting people in positions that don't have

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<v Speaker 2>experience because you don't you want to destroy.

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<v Speaker 1>Them when we start talking to talking about abolishing the

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<v Speaker 1>police is one example throughout the South, throughout the South,

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<v Speaker 1>because what what my mom will tell you is that

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<v Speaker 1>my mom does not want to abolish the police. She

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<v Speaker 1>wants better.

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<v Speaker 5>Wait, let's talk about that. Their very few, There are

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<v Speaker 5>very very few to none sitting elected officials or candidates

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<v Speaker 5>of all stripes who actually are running on abolishing.

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<v Speaker 1>The Francesca hung is about to be the Democratic nominee

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<v Speaker 1>for Wisconsin governor.

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<v Speaker 5>And she's not she's not, by the way, like Francisco

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<v Speaker 5>is not running on abolishing the police in fact.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's I mean, when asked. Don Piker asked her

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<v Speaker 1>and she said yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And Katie Wilson shady.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie also has past comments where she talked about abolishing

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<v Speaker 2>the Seattle Police department.

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<v Speaker 3>So to me, I'm just saying, and.

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<v Speaker 1>That was just My biggest issue is that it is where.

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<v Speaker 2>Black people have an issue around that's not safe for us,

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<v Speaker 2>especially when yes, homicide rates are going down and crime

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<v Speaker 2>rates are going down, but we want to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that it stays that way. So can we have, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a better way of interacting. We also know these police

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<v Speaker 2>departments ain't super safe for us either, so they need

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<v Speaker 2>to be challenged out accountaball, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>I got two words, Brandon Johnson right, because yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was wrong. I was wrong on.

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<v Speaker 5>Good Love, because everybody was like red baiting about Brandon

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<v Speaker 5>and about like public safety with Look in the history

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<v Speaker 5>of the city of Chicago, you haven't had lower it's

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<v Speaker 5>a violent crime, right, and he's engaged in a holistic

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<v Speaker 5>approach to public safety where he puts investments where we

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<v Speaker 5>know it works and it's not just the one side

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<v Speaker 5>fits all just spending it on more police.

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<v Speaker 3>Person's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But let me just also say this, though this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the thing that this is the this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I want to articulate. Like, Brandon has done a

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<v Speaker 1>great job. And I was wrong about Brandon, I'll admit that.

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<v Speaker 1>But Brandon Scott, who doesn't come from the same political spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>has done Yeoman's work, right, Frank Scott, Frank Scott has

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<v Speaker 1>done Yeoman's work. Randall Wolfan, both of those individuals beat

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<v Speaker 1>DSA guys have done great work. Andre Dickens. I like Andre.

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<v Speaker 1>People people people have their own issues with Andre, So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have time to go down that path because

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're ready to jump off.

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<v Speaker 3>And doing great on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Andre's doing great. I love Andre.

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<v Speaker 2>I want him to interface a little more at the

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<v Speaker 2>community on public safety.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I mean I think that you're seeing these people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, yeah, you're right, and I think that you're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing these people. And I just wish that we what

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<v Speaker 1>I what I want to while we're abolishing things and

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<v Speaker 1>going down platforms. The only thing I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>do is abolish litmus tests. That's the only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would like to do.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, look like we we align around that we

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<v Speaker 5>don't have litmus tests at the WFP. Frankly, right, we don't.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't do litmus test politics. We don't do that.

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<v Speaker 5>We really try to approach things from the standpoint of

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<v Speaker 5>like number one, how do we win? And number two

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<v Speaker 5>like for real, for real, what are the policies that

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<v Speaker 5>are actually going to prove improve the lives of working

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<v Speaker 5>class people like in our lifetimes?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 5>And and look, I also think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I want to be on the Seattle Endorsement Committee

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<v Speaker 2>because this can't keep happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this say less? Say less?

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<v Speaker 5>We can have a whole conversation around that.

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<v Speaker 3>Right has got to go, y'all.

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<v Speaker 5>Going my other, my other, my other invitation is like

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<v Speaker 5>we're an actual, like bottom up political party, Like I

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<v Speaker 5>don't make the the endorsement decisions. If you have a

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<v Speaker 5>problem with an endorsement decision, roll up your sleeves, get

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<v Speaker 5>involved in the w P, and and then you know,

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<v Speaker 5>organize the w P to move in a different direction.

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<v Speaker 5>If you have a critique, that's my that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind to be racist, Like I don't what I think,

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<v Speaker 2>what is what bothers me? I'm just being honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you like you're somebody that's family to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you having people representing a part of

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<v Speaker 2>who you are and what you stand for that are

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<v Speaker 2>so out of lockstep for that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's something like I want to actually have a meet

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<v Speaker 3>with them, Like how could y'all miss the mark this bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's no way MOA is gonna be on the

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<v Speaker 2>side of fire and wholesale black folks, especially on maternity

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<v Speaker 2>leave coming up with fake investigations like I'm not with that.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, maybe would break the news here.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she's about to fire a deputy mayor who's

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<v Speaker 2>also black, but forgot it along the way. Brian Surrett,

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<v Speaker 2>so Hardy's looking for other jobs. This dude's got to be.

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