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Speaker 1: Lute force. If it doesn't work, you're just not using enough.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to soft web Radio Special Operations, Military Nails

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Speaker 1: and straight talk with the guys in the community.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another awesome episode of soft Rep Radio. Insert

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Speaker 2: in the background right here. My name is Rad I

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm about to say, and that is

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Speaker 2: soft rep Mafia. The second thing I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about is our book club, and that is soft rep

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Speaker 2: is the gym for your mind. Read a book, gain

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Speaker 2: some knowledge. Knowledge is power. Your brain is a muscle,

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Speaker 2: So read a book, right, And so with that said books, Okay,

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Speaker 2: I have a book right here by my guest, which

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Speaker 2: you already know who it is because you see the link.

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Speaker 2: You clicked on it. You said, I want to listen

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Speaker 2: to Mike Hayes, former Seal Team two commander who wrote

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Speaker 2: Mission Driven and also Never Enough, Right, isn't it? Never

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Speaker 2: Enough was the first book it was.

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Speaker 3: It was I'm so stoked stope to be here.

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Speaker 2: Read well, I'm so stoked to have you, sir, dude,

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Speaker 2: sir on the show. You know, when I saw that

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Speaker 2: I was gonna have my case on the show and

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Speaker 2: he has his book coming out, Mission Driven, you guys

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Speaker 2: got that out to me. I started to look at

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Speaker 2: it and the first thing I noticed was, of course,

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Speaker 2: the beginning, and I was just like, Okay, what's this

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Speaker 2: guy all about? And can I ask you, Tony and Mason,

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Speaker 2: No words can express my profound love and appreciation. Could

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Speaker 2: you just elaborate on Yeah? Who?

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Speaker 3: First of all, Rad, thanks for having me here.

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Speaker 4: Really appreciate an inspiration, all the impact that you have

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Speaker 4: for this great nation helping us be greater every day.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Nie and Mason Knee is short for Anita

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Speaker 4: and my wife Mason daughter. They've they're the ones who've

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Speaker 4: lived through. Yeah, I think it was seven deployments of

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Speaker 4: six months or longer. And as anybody who's listening knows,

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Speaker 4: the spouses are the secret ingredient of the nation.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And before you and I start talking

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Speaker 2: on this conversation, I pointed in my dad's flag and

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Speaker 2: my mom's picture right next to it. Again, my mom

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Speaker 2: being the spouse, my dad going and doing deployments as

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Speaker 2: a Green Beret. She was always mom and Dad. She

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Speaker 2: was always like, oh, hey, everything's going good. I never

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Speaker 2: Dad's doing his thing. Mom's here, Mom's making sure everything's

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Speaker 2: take the son to school, I got take Aaron to

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Speaker 2: do all these things. You can fall into line by

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Speaker 2: doing those things, you know, And so that's very cool

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Speaker 2: that you put her in the beginning of your book

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Speaker 2: and then also something that also is right here. It's

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Speaker 2: thank you. I will never forget. I can only imagine

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know, uh, it's not an easy task

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Speaker 4: Out, and that's what it's all about. It's what it's

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Speaker 4: of book is Mission Driven, but that is my mission.

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Speaker 4: I I, like every seal or soft member or military

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Speaker 4: a building that was rigged to explode. I've you know,

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Speaker 4: amputated a teammate's leg on a mission. You know, it's

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Speaker 4: it's it's and I'm no different than anybody else, Just

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Speaker 4: carry that weight. And what that means to me rad

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Speaker 4: is I live a life of saying, am I worthy?

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Speaker 4: Am I living my life in a way that's worthy

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Speaker 4: doing everything I humanly can to honor them? And to

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Speaker 4: help the families who who who continue to pay that

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Speaker 4: ultimate sacrifice every single day, every.

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Speaker 2: Day by looking at a photo of their lost one.

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Speaker 2: Every single day, some type of remembrance is brought to them.

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Speaker 2: And one thing that you do, I know you have

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Speaker 2: gold Star Families with five oh one C three, which

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Speaker 2: is a charity license right, And I'm not sure. I

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Speaker 2: think it's like eleven sixty two. I'm not sure the

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Speaker 2: exact name of your charity. I just kind of remembered

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Speaker 2: something along those lines. But you've like helped paid off

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Speaker 2: twelve to fifteen gold Star Families mortgages, right, which helps

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Speaker 2: free up the burden of the mortgage payment. Okay, first

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Speaker 4: Look, I've lived a life now, very very fortunate, and

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Speaker 4: you know, twenty years in the teams and have have

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Speaker 4: everything in between. But what what I've done is started

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Speaker 4: a nonprofit, the eleven sixty two Foundation. Kennedy started the

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Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a double meeting behind that

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Speaker 4: because one to one it's like that's what renewal is.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: January first, you know, we all kind of hit that

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Speaker 4: And so it really signifies ideally, after you pay off

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Speaker 4: where I have my foundation.

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Speaker 2: I have.

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Speaker 4: We paid off twelve twelve mortgages now and those are

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. Probably to present somebody, hey, a letter

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Speaker 2: like hey, here's something for you. You know, We've got this

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Speaker 2: Like thank you?

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Speaker 4: It's just I just imagine all of the all of

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Speaker 3: I believe in heaven, you know, and uh and uh.

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Speaker 4: You know, I believe they're just looking down and saying

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Speaker 4: saying thank you, continued thanks not just to the foundation

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Speaker 3: And for our fellow citizens.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the probably up there just saying continue to

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Speaker 2: like Mormons have a like a planetary alignment, So once

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Speaker 2: but you can't visit the top planet, but they can

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Speaker 2: and then you know you have to overwatch that whole situation. Right,

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Speaker 2: You're usually watching the movements of everything going on here

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Speaker 2: and everything coming through. You're getting the soft rep from

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Speaker 2: the guys, right, You're like, hey, what's the soft rep

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Speaker 2: with Team two's unit here? Right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, look, I mean absolutely, Like the when I was

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Speaker 4: But until you're in that role, you just can't understand

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Speaker 4: how much how much weight that is you you carry

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Speaker 4: for the lives and the well being of everybody in

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Speaker 3: At all different levels and and.

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Speaker 4: You know, one of the things that I really would

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Speaker 4: You know, I was one of nineteen graduates that of

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Speaker 4: the coolest.

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Speaker 3: Thing in the world.

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Speaker 4: And the faster you learn that you're no cooler than

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Speaker 4: And the more you realize that it's a group of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like you have everybody on a team

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Speaker 2: And so now you have to like drill down on

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Speaker 2: those things and say, well, what exactly about being a

437
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 2: loving father? Is this going to be totally to get?

438
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Speaker 4: And then like I actually, as we think about like

439
00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 4: I am passionate about the military community trendositioning, well, you know,

440
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 4: and so if if so, think of it a thought exercise.

441
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 4: Let's just say I was a person in the world

442
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: who knew every executive in the entire private sector. And

443
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,320
Speaker 4: let's say you're in an elevator and I step in

444
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,480
Speaker 4: and and I say, Okay, hey, great to see you're

445
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 4: at It's been you know, a couple of years since

446
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,480
Speaker 4: we served in Afghanistan or Iraq or whatever.

447
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Speaker 3: How the heck are you? Oh, hey, Mike, I'm looking

448
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 3: at transitioning.

449
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: Oh, great.

450
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,400
Speaker 4: Okay, rad I only have another thirty seconds for you, brother,

451
00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 4: and then I got a run. But tell me in

452
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Speaker 4: seven sentences, what are you.

453
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 2: Looking for.

454
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,200
Speaker 3: Snowboarding? Okay, well I got I'll go with you.

455
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 2: I'm in.

456
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 4: I picked up snowboarding last year. I'm a big wake surfer,

457
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 4: so anyways, I'd have a lot more fun talking about that.

458
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 2: But let's go goofy for life. Bro, that's me. I'm

459
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: goofy for life. I'm regular.

460
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

461
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's good. That's okay, it's okay.

462
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: But anyways, but in that elevator, in those seven sentences,

463
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Speaker 4: can you give me something that narrows in on on

464
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: me being able to take everything I all my connections

465
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 4: that I have and say, who are the ones that

466
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 4: are going to help you the most? Because a lot

467
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 4: of what happens when people transition is they do it

468
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 4: in a bottom up way. It's like, Hey, I know

469
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 4: a person who has an opportunity, and I'm going to

470
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Speaker 4: go evaluate this opportunity instead of doing the thinking agnostic

471
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Speaker 4: of an opportunity and working in the abstract and working

472
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: top down to say, you know what, I really want

473
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Speaker 4: to work in finance. I really want to like Raleigh

474
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 4: North Carolina is super important to me, you know, or

475
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 4: or you know, whatever the case may be, Like, can

476
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Speaker 4: you help me take the prioritizations from before to really

477
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: help me map my network and then say, Okay, if

478
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,399
Speaker 4: you just go talk to a bunch of people, for example,

479
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 4: in Boston in your in your job search, chances are

480
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna land in and around Boston.

481
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Speaker 3: Could the person in Boston know someone in San Francisco?

482
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 2: Sure?

483
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Speaker 4: But like you're in mathematically kind of like driving your

484
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 4: next phase of your life by by have by by

485
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 4: choosing what conversations you have. And that's what I've tried

486
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: to do in Mission Driven. Besides being I know it

487
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 4: sounds very professorial or academic. It's a it's a book

488
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 4: with real stories and stuff too, but but that's what

489
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: I'm trying to One of the things I'm trying to

490
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 4: get across to people is help them to help themselves.

491
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Well, and you can't help, but like kind of blend

492
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,840
Speaker 2: your other book even together. You know, I think like

493
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 2: battlefill to the boardroom, you know, and so you just

494
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 2: have this jenesse Qua about it where you're going to

495
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: know you're lane and you know mission and so the

496
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,359
Speaker 2: mission driven book here. I mean, you just you just

497
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 2: have it has got so much information because we all

498
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,800
Speaker 2: do transition every point of every single day, and so

499
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, we all wake up and we.

500
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Speaker 3: Choose our lives every single day, even if we're not.

501
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: Making it every single day, you know, And that kind

502
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: of stuck out to me in your book, you know,

503
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 2: just to kind of loosely quote you there, but it's like, yeah,

504
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: I wake up, you know, And I did start, you know,

505
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 2: after I was at General mcgraven that gave the speech

506
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 2: about like making your bed. And some people are like, oh,

507
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't make my bed, I don't need to listen

508
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 2: to that whatever, But I started remaking my bed after him.

509
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 2: He's like, you know, why do we make our beds?

510
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 2: Why do we force people in buds who are gonna

511
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 2: be hardened, trained killers to go make their bed every

512
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Speaker 2: night before or every morning with hospital corners, So that

513
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: when you're done at the end of the day and

514
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:16,119
Speaker 2: you're beat down and you're ready just to crash, you

515
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: don't have to go look at your bed and say

516
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: I gotta make it to lay in it or whatever.

517
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 2: You can just lay down in your bed and it's

518
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 2: ready to go. So you know, and then you got

519
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: to wake up the next day and you got to

520
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 2: like wash, rinse and repeat. But something has to kind

521
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 2: of tweak to keep going every single day. So I mean,

522
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 2: that's what you're talking about. You gotta make a decision.

523
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 2: You gotta wake up every day, you gotta transition your life.

524
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: Every day is a new day. And I guess, to

525
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 2: quote the Seals, there's no easy day like yesterday Street,

526
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,120
Speaker 2: Damn dude. So see how that just flows right there,

527
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, really you're just pumping out some

528
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: positive information and again the book being just you know,

529
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: charitable to you know, a positive good. You know, I

530
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 2: would just recommend anybody getting it just to help that mission.

531
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Speaker 2: Let alone read a book. At the beginning of the show,

532
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 2: I said, what's the gym for your brain? It's reading

533
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: a book. It's like, really, you know, I like to

534
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 2: hold a book. I know people have these kindles and

535
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 2: digital platforms that they read, but there's nothing like the

536
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: book where you can turn the page, you can flip

537
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 2: the page and go back and say wait a second here.

538
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: You know, I have a hard time doing that on

539
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: a phone, you know, zooming in to try to read it.

540
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,479
Speaker 2: So I really appreciate the way this book feels too.

541
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: I get so many books from folks, and and so

542
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,239
Speaker 2: the color and the and the and the whole thing

543
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 2: about it, it just it just kind of makes me

544
00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 2: want to read it. And in fact, my wife's like, oh,

545
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: you're getting ready for your podcast. I was like, yeah,

546
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 2: I'm reading a book.

547
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 3: And then you were, and then you were later.

548
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, I usually kind of wing a lot of it.

549
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, you know, but you know, there's sometimes

550
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: where I just want to read it. And so again,

551
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: you know, it does say in here, uh, mission driven

552
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 2: in the ways we spend our time. So I'm going

553
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 2: to say that. You know, my dad used to have

554
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: a whiteboard in his office as a Green Beret, and

555
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 2: on that whiteboard him and his guys would write five

556
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: years out of what's going down, you know. And so

557
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: I've kind of adopted a little whiteboard mentality myself in

558
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,960
Speaker 2: my own company, right because we're trying to allocate what

559
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,119
Speaker 2: we're doing. We're like, hey, okay, we're gonna scale up

560
00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 2: our website. This is actually going down right now. So

561
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: we have forecasting basically what's gonna, you know, happen, how

562
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: it's gonna be doing and we want timelines and you know,

563
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: I want answers for my web guy in the twenty

564
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:35,640
Speaker 2: four to forty eight hours. All this stuff is being

565
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: kind of like itemized so we can just get it done.

566
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 2: Otherwise we're like wishing one hundred percent.

567
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Speaker 4: The one gift that we have is time and how

568
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 4: we choose our to spend our time. It has to

569
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,159
Speaker 4: reflect who we are and what missions that we're on.

570
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 4: And one of the harder things in life is saying no.

571
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 4: And especially when people are wired like like I am,

572
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 4: and like I know your entire audience is wired. Is

573
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: like there are people who get things done and the

574
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 4: reflexive answer is is almost always yes.

575
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: And I think one of the things to.

576
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 4: Really look at is say, how well can you say

577
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 4: no when something doesn't fit your you know your your

578
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: mission if you will. And you know, seven years ago

579
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 4: I had a vision for to make something that was

580
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: local really be national. Is that we opened the National

581
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Speaker 4: Medal of Honor Museum. I'm the founding board member of

582
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Speaker 4: the National Medal of Honor Museum, which opened in Arlington, Texas.

583
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 4: Seven years ago. I had a conversation to help somebody

584
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 4: and it was thirty minutes of a friend of a friend.

585
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: I'll give you some advice. I'll spare you the long version.

586
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 4: The short version is we uh. I'm the one of

587
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 4: the board members of the museum, and we opened up.

588
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: We raised three hunred million dollars, and seven years later

589
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: we opened the doors in this past march on Medal

590
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Speaker 4: of Honor Day. And to to be able to have

591
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Speaker 4: a place to recognize not just the you know, the

592
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: thirty five hundred ish thirty five hundred plus recipients of

593
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 4: the Congressional Medal of Honor and the sixty one living

594
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: recipients that we have today, it's it's actually how do

595
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 4: we take the values the characteristics that they that the

596
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 4: service members of spouse on the day when they were

597
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: recognized and for their day of action and tell those

598
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 4: stories not just in a way that are like to

599
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 4: impress or because that's not who they are. I'm obviously

600
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 4: not one of them, but with what I can say

601
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: from knowing most of them is there's such humility and

602
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 4: such grace and such inspiration, and all of these guys

603
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 4: want the nation to be as great as it humanly can.

604
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: And so the tag the mission for the Museums is

605
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 4: on a mission to inspire America, and that's what we're

606
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 4: trying to do, is inspire the world so that the

607
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 4: third grader who sees bullying on the schoolyard, who just saw,

608
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 4: you know, something that one of the displays that the

609
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 4: museum can step in and have the courage, the ability

610
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 4: to see wrong, identify wrong, and to step in and

611
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 4: make something happen. And that's really what we're trying to

612
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: do is use the examples to help all of our

613
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: citizens be better.

614
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Speaker 2: You know, I never, you know, thought about Medal of

615
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: honor in the third grade as a way of life,

616
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 2: But now that you say that, there's probably many Medal

617
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: of Honor kids out there that have stepped into situations

618
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: that are just unknown as young kids before they ever

619
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: go to the military, doing difficult things that maybe you

620
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: know what I mean. That's another thing off the top

621
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Speaker 2: of my head, and someone can correct me if I'm

622
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: wrong in the comments down below. But regarding the Medal

623
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 2: of Honor, my understanding is the most medal of honors

624
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: are out of like Colorado Pueblo area. The Pueblo, Colorado

625
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: area has like the most medal of honors awarded to people,

626
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: and not just Ko talkers because that's where they're from,

627
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: but just other individuals from the Pueblo area. And I

628
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: was just like, Wow, what's in that water? Okay, so

629
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: whatever is going on in Pueblo, Colorado? You know you

630
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: guys have that's a hero tan.

631
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not up on my geography, like like I

632
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: should be with the Medal of Honor recipients, but but look,

633
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 4: it's it's really representative of the whole nation and so

634
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 4: got you've got incredible stories. I'd encourage anybody to become

635
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 4: familiar with the Medal of Honor Museum. It's right next

636
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 4: to AT and T Stadium in Arlington, Texas. If you're

637
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 4: ever passing through the Dallas Fort Worth area.

638
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 3: You've got to go see this.

639
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: The first five minutes are the most remarkable three D

640
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 4: video in a rotunda that you will ever see. I

641
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 4: think we're going through, you know, yards and yards of

642
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: Kleenex starting with me. You know, every time I see

643
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 4: that movie, it's just so freaking moving.

644
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: Already I need the clean X yeah, yeah, no, it's

645
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I have it here because I already got

646
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: soaked up on your intro of you know, thank you

647
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 2: to my friends that may not be here anymore, you know,

648
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 2: let alone own those that have just you know, took

649
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: a grenade for their fellow buddy in battle to make

650
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: sure he goes home. You know. Uh, there's reasons why

651
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 2: people jump on a grenade, like Captain America, Kyle.

652
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 4: Carlander tackling a suicide bomber, like like, the stories are

653
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 4: exactly remarkable, and and to say, like where in the

654
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 4: world did America find these people?

655
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: Like wow, it's just really inspirational.

656
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: Well thanks to their mom and dad, Okay, because here

657
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: they are and they went and you know, and Kyle

658
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: is he's still living. Yeah, yeah, he took a lot

659
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 2: of damage from that situation. But the situation and uh,

660
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, so many like Dakota Meyer right still

661
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: living youngest recipient. I think of the Medal of Honor,

662
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: these are.

663
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 4: Heroes, you know, it's and and you know what what

664
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 4: I would say is again, I have I'm privileged to

665
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: know a lot of these guys. We got five of

666
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: them on our Word of the Medal of Honorn Museum.

667
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 4: And I've never met a hero who says that he or.

668
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: She is one. That's That's what I'm getting at like

669
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: they just like you said, They're like, hey, I'm not cool.

670
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: You know, you think I'm cool, but I'm just like you, right,

671
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 2: It's just like, hey, you would have done the same thing.

672
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 2: Maybe that's probably what they think if they look at

673
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: somebody else, it's like, hey, if you were in the situation,

674
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: you would have probably done the same type of thing.

675
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 2: If it was your buddy out there, you would have

676
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: dodged enemy fire, you would have displayed orders, you would

677
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: have gone and got Bubba. Okay, you would have pulled

678
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: him out, you know, because you pulled everybody else out.

679
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: But where's Bubba? Right, So you go right back in

680
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: to go get that situation and you come back out.

681
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 4: And you know, I've had some time to reflect back

682
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: on this, you know, I think that the real reason

683
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 4: that that military members do this is certainly, of course,

684
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: for the American flag, the Constitution in apple Pie, but

685
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 4: the real reason people take this risk is for the

686
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 4: love of their teammates. I didn't use the L word

687
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 4: when I was, you know, a twenty five or a

688
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: thirty five year old. Feel I'm fifty four now, like

689
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: I see it so freaking clearly. It is pure love

690
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: for your teammates.

691
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: I would imagine it's just like if you or mere

692
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 2: shoulder shoulder, and something happened, I'd be like, well it's Mike, dude,

693
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 2: Like that's Mike. That's Mike right there. Okay, so who's

694
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 2: going I'm going, I don't care. You can say it's

695
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: shitty and you're gonna have to get me too, but

696
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: it's Mike. Bro. Yeah, like, hello, look what he's given me.

697
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: He gave me all of the point guard. I was

698
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: always I was always on point because of him. You know.

699
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 2: He always gave me the first shot, you know, you know,

700
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: and uh, that's awesome. And I'm sure you've probably heard

701
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 2: the analogy of like the bro versus the friend on

702
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: the team, like who's the bro, who's the friend? You know,

703
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: like you're sitting there typing up all of the orders,

704
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 2: you're getting all this intel coming down the chain of command,

705
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 2: and you crumble up your piece of paper, throw it

706
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: out of your way to throw it in your waistbasket

707
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: and it falls down on the floor and you're like, hey, bro,

708
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: will you come take this trash out for me? And

709
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 2: he's like, yeah, sure, no problem. Bro. You're like okay,

710
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: and he's like goes down the chain. Hey bro, go

711
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: take out the boss's trash. So the last guy comes in,

712
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: he's like, hey boss, I'm gonna take a trash out.

713
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 2: You're like, thanks, bro. But the friend on the team,

714
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: that friend would have already saw your trash being filled.

715
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: He would have already come in and emptied it. So

716
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: when you pulled that piece of paper, crumbled it, and

717
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 2: tossed it, it would have gone right in your basket.

718
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 4: So you have the friend versus a course of course,

719
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: and it resonates. I would say, though, is like, is

720
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 4: there's the ability to be all of the above, you know,

721
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 4: is to have the military structure and at the same

722
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 4: time the friendship and the brotherly love, you know, like

723
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: it like it's it's just all can exist.

724
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 3: It can all co exist.

725
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,280
Speaker 2: And I guess, I guess it's not like I'm kissing

726
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 2: the CEO's ass. It's that I'm giving him customer service

727
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: because I'm hired to be under him. And just because

728
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: it looks like I'm trying to like smooth him, doesn't

729
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 2: mean I'm just like him.

730
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, let me get it differently, because I love what

731
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: you're saying. It's let me go back to hell. Week

732
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 4: in Seal Training class one ninety two back in nineteen

733
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 4: ninety three. And this is no different than any seal

734
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 4: going through steal training, anybody going through the Q course,

735
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,800
Speaker 4: anybody going through any sort of like like crucible to

736
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 4: become the thing that they are. The thing I remember

737
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 4: very vividly thinking when I when I had a boat

738
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: under my head with my teammates, is the more I hurt,

739
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 4: the less my teammates hurt. And so the thing is

740
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 4: is that when when I'm speaking to my daughter's you know,

741
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 4: ages ago, but her seventh grade classroom on Veteran's Day,

742
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 4: and I said, hey, do it. Let's do a little

743
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 4: thought exercise.

744
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Here.

745
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,320
Speaker 3: You're paired up with another person and you each have

746
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 3: to do an assignment. How much do you each have

747
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 3: to do?

748
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 4: And all the hands go up, and I call on

749
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: the first kid and the answer is fifty percent? And

750
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 4: I said, no, wrong, wrong answer. All the hands go down,

751
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 4: and even the teacher looked a little confused. The thing is,

752
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: the answer is as much as you humanly can. Because

753
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 4: then when you have two people come to other and

754
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: their answer is that they're each trying to do as

755
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 4: much of the work as they humanly can.

756
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 3: That's the ingredient.

757
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 4: That's when you have like elite success and elite performance

758
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,479
Speaker 4: in that mindset, that's what we really really like see

759
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,120
Speaker 4: throughout the military military.

760
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: Excuse me, no please, that makes total sense. It's like,

761
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 2: you know, just put everything he got into the situation,

762
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: you know, uh and uh, you know, and just do

763
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: as much as you can. And you may not get

764
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: the answer to number two, but three, four, five, six,

765
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: and seven, and then maybe your battle buddy got number

766
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 2: two and you can work together to complete that. But

767
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: you do as much as you can because your number

768
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: six might be his number. Yeah.

769
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: And so if I'm the commander in your situation, like

770
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm thinking, what can I do? I work for everybody

771
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 4: else who somebody might be emptying the garbage, but like

772
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: I am living a life that is trying to make

773
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 4: other people's lives better easier as that. And we're all

774
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 4: doing that for each other, irrespective of task rank.

775
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 2: Or role, right exactly. But the guy taking the trash out,

776
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 2: the friend while you're sitting there writing the orders, you

777
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: might notice the friend that did that, you might give him.

778
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make you point guy on this mission. I'm

779
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 2: gonna give Bill his slot. He wants the sixty today,

780
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: so cool, you know, and you know he's always you know,

781
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 2: customer service, your performed because like you said, you're an orchestra.

782
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: You're you're You're a conductor of an orchestra, all right.

783
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: And so as a manager in business, as I've learned

784
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: is I can't know everything. I can't know everything to

785
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: do with all of what I sell in the tactical

786
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: world of war games. But I have people around me

787
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: who are super smart, and I can go, hey, Mitch,

788
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 2: subject matter expert on optics, why would I want this

789
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: optic over this optic? And then I kind of walk away,

790
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 2: let the customer talk to Mitch, and Mitch says, well,

791
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: this is why you want this optic, this is why

792
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: you do this optic. But I kind of led them

793
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: to Mitch. So you know, all overall, you as a manager,

794
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: surround yourself with good people makes you look like a

795
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: good mass.

796
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 3: The average of the people we hang out with.

797
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 4: And so my whole life, I've said, worked to hang

798
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 4: out with people who are smarter, faster, and stronger than me,

799
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 4: and that hasn't been hard to find.

800
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: And that's what's pulled me up.

801
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: And that can contribute to that, you know, one hundred percent,

802
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: And same way you know we our circles can be

803
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: you know, closed so tight, and people try to get

804
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: into them, and they try to like, you know, research

805
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 2: you and try to hit you up, and you know,

806
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 2: you've got to always keep your bearings about who you

807
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 2: hire around you. I just want to say that as

808
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 2: a business guy, you know, they're so again though, you know,

809
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 2: I can't help it. If someone in my business sees

810
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: me doing what I do and says, hey, I want

811
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 2: to be like what Rad's doing and have a little

812
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 2: freedom to go snowboarding, I can't fault them for that.

813
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 2: So if they want to step off and go do something,

814
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: I can only be proud that they worked with me

815
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: for as long as they did, and I was proud

816
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: to have them with me. And now I can see

817
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: them grow as well, and then maybe they'll come to

818
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 2: me and I can help them even grow further, as

819
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 2: long as just just stay in your lane, you know,

820
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,359
Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying. So I just want to see

821
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 2: the people around me also succeed and rise to the top.

822
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 2: You know, whether they come into me working as a

823
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: young fourteen year old sweeper in my kill house to

824
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: earn playtime there, or they're my former Iraq infantry been there,

825
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: done that instructors at my shot. Those guys I glean

826
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 2: off of. They're like, oh yeah, rad, you want to

827
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 2: come around a corner like this, keep your wing down,

828
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: keep your elbow down. You know, you don't want to

829
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: keep your elbow up. You want to keep your elbow down,

830
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: just like simple simple things. I mean, your book's awesome,

831
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: You're awesome. I really love battlefield to boardroom mentality. You know,

832
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 2: of using what put you through all the ringers of

833
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 2: hell week and going through buds. But it's not just buds,

834
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: it's ASVAB and basic training and going through you know,

835
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 2: everything to get there. That helped create a culture inside

836
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 2: of you. Because you know, every time we join the military,

837
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 2: it starts to shape us. You know, you start to

838
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: adapt to the situation and we get you know, no

839
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: matter how long you spend it from the ASFAB to

840
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 2: your out process, you've been Rubik's cubed by the military

841
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: to be a certain way program. A lot of guys

842
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: transitioning out go and get last minute documents signed and

843
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: they go through this program to get out, and you know,

844
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: and they have these papers that really don't mean anything

845
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 2: on the outside, but they think it's so important to

846
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: go get all this stuff signed off. But they're like,

847
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go not to be a civilian in transition.

848
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: And so I'm always hearing these stories of how do

849
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: I transition correctly.

850
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I'm telling you this.

851
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 4: I'm a passion and that is one of the main

852
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: reasons I wrote my book was to help that help

853
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: the community that I know and love. If anybody's thinking

854
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 4: about transitioning, Mission Driven is the book for you, it

855
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 4: really is. And again, the only reason I can like say, hey,

856
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: go buy it is because I don't make any money

857
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 4: on it, and it's going to like what like the

858
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 4: win win here is hopefully I help people who read

859
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:37,399
Speaker 4: the book.

860
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: The early feedback has been remarkable.

861
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 4: I will say that it debuted as number four on

862
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 4: the top one hundred and fifty books sold in the

863
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 4: world the and and that's across all genres. Fiction sells

864
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 4: way more than nonfiction. Kind of speaks to who we

865
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 4: are as people, but we let but the so anyways,

866
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: top four in the world, and and for me, it's

867
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 4: it's not about like, it's not about anything other than

868
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 4: helping and influencing and elevating the conversation in order to

869
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,439
Speaker 4: help us be better as individuals and as a nation.

870
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that. No, You're great. And I

871
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 2: use the word love a lot, and when I say it,

872
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: it's because I mean it. I'd rather tell you I

873
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: love you in person than at your funeral. I mean,

874
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: I'm a big believer in you know that today. I

875
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: see friends all the time, like even my employees. I'm like, hey, guys,

876
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: take this to HR, but I love you.

877
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, yeah, no, I know it's.

878
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: I'm a sorry. Yeah, I love it. I love it.

879
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 2: I love it. But I tell them, you know, I'd

880
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: rather you guys know that today, that that you matter

881
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: to me than at your funeral or at a wake

882
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: where you know, those aren't the reunions I want to

883
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 2: go to, But it's the reunions I have to go to.

884
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 3: And so I like to say it like we're all

885
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: varying degrees of imperfect, just trying to be less imperfect

886
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 3: in the area we choose every day.

887
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And so again, this is a not

888
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: for profit book, and this is mission driven. All proceeds

889
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 2: go to the eleven sixty two, which is very clever.

890
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 2: One one sixty two, very cool with Kennedy. One one

891
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 2: six two. Uh, I'm glad I remembered that number. Uh,

892
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 2: you know, and all you know to help pay gold

893
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: star families. And if you're listening and you don't know

894
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: what a gold star family is, which is very valid, okay,

895
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: because you may be like, what's a gold star family?

896
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 2: Rad Well, that's someone who's lost a member in battle

897
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,080
Speaker 2: and specifically, you know, you know, they will hang like

898
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: a gold star on their window, a blue star if

899
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 2: they are deployed, but a gold star means that they've

900
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 2: lost a loved one family member in battle. And so

901
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: real quick, are the gold stars all seal families or

902
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: is it just kind of a spectrum.

903
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 4: So one of my approaches with the eleven sixty two

904
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 4: Foundation is that we have no full time employees, where

905
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 4: all everybody's a volunteer.

906
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 3: We have three people on a board.

907
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 4: My assistant helps volunteers her time doing a lot of

908
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 4: the coordinating stuff, and that's it. We have five people

909
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 4: or excuse me, four people.

910
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 2: And then.

911
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 4: One of the premises that I see I'm not going

912
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 4: to judge any nonprofits, but some nonprofits when they do

913
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 4: something great, they take the picture and they put it

914
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 4: on the website and basically say, hey, look at how

915
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 4: great I am.

916
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 3: I just helped so and so.

917
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: The founding one of the founding principles to the eleven

918
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: sixty two foundation was that I don't talk about any

919
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 4: individual names. That's those women's stories to tell, if they

920
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: so choose to tell it. I have there are two, three,

921
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: two or three people on the planet who know all

922
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 4: twelve names collectively, maybe, and so each one that I do,

923
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: there's probably six or eight people that know. But there's

924
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: the people who know all of them. It's a very

925
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: very very small number. I will say that maybe a

926
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,720
Speaker 4: little bit of a teaser here. The I read the audible,

927
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 4: So if you do down the audible, I can put

928
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: you to sleep in six seconds or less.

929
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 3: But but but the when I got to.

930
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 4: There, I received after I I don't ask for anything

931
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 4: in return for these mortgages that I paid off other

932
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 4: than just like just saying thank you and I'm sorry,

933
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 4: like I opened in the book. And and but the

934
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: thing I I received one of the most beautiful letters

935
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 4: of my entire life from one of the ladies. Uh,

936
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: one of the goals Star Widows and I I have,

937
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: you know, for years, just it's just been like me

938
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: and my wife and maybe one or two other people

939
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 4: have read it. And I have probably read that letter read.

940
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,919
Speaker 4: I've probably read it maybe five hundred times in my life.

941
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: I I I get choked up every single time. And

942
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 4: and it really it's just the most beautiful words that

943
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: you'll ever read. I was talking to this lady. And

944
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 4: when I write a book, I also have a principle

945
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 4: of mine is I'm gonna reach out to you. If

946
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: I name you, I'm gonna I'm gonna get a hold

947
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 4: of you and say, hey, here's what I'm doing. Do

948
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 4: you want your real name or do you want your

949
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 4: name change? And I'll follow whatever your choice is. Maybe

950
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,239
Speaker 4: ten percent of the people are like, now change my name, please?

951
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: Fine. Absolutely. And but so I was telling gonna tell

952
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 3: a story about.

953
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: One of the gold Star widows, and I called her

954
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 4: and I said, listen, I I'm living by my promise

955
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 4: of not using names and everything. And she said, no, Mike,

956
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 4: not only can you use my name, she said, like

957
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: that letter that I sent you, I sent that to

958
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 4: you so that you could share.

959
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: It with the world.

960
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: And in chapter nine read of Mission Driven, you know,

961
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 4: is an excerpt from that letter. And when I was

962
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 4: reading the audible, I kid, you know, I had to stop.

963
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: I could not make it through it. I paused and

964
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 4: just had real Jesus man. I mean even now I

965
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 4: just feel it, you know, but I I just couldn't

966
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 4: get through it, man. And so it's really really really

967
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 4: hard to get you'll hear me, you know. I think

968
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 4: I eventually got through it. But when you hear me

969
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 4: read that in the audible, if you listen to that version,

970
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 4: I get pretty choked up. But it's a really powerful,

971
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 4: one of the most powerful things that I think you

972
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 4: could read.

973
00:45:59,400 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 2: And so.

974
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: This maybe this is my plea on to try to

975
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: get people to go to go buy Mission Driven, the

976
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 4: real book or the audiobook. But trust me, there's some

977
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 4: really powerful stuff in here.

978
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Mission Driven. Yeah, the Stages of Life chapter nine.

979
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right, it's like, yeah, very cool. I'm very glad

980
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: to have this book. Okay, I'll finish it and get

981
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 2: through it and try to pull something out and glean

982
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 2: it in my own personal life to help myself in

983
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 2: the business aspect or just you know, as a father,

984
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 2: as a husband, and you know, as a friend, which

985
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 2: is what I like to focus on, right I just

986
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 2: said the three things that you know I really like

987
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: to focus on, and especially snowboarding, right, so you know,

988
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 2: as a snowboarding friend of yours, Now, if you ever

989
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: want to go snowboarding, I want to invite you here

990
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: to Utah where I'm based out of and we have

991
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: Brighton Ski Resort right here at the top of the world.

992
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: Twelve eight hundred feet is where we'll hang out at

993
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 2: Snake and we'll just go down that bad boy through

994
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: the trees. No trail for this guy.

995
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm going at eighty percent, not one hundred

996
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: and eighty is maybe even too high of a number.

997
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,279
Speaker 4: I'm just keeping that you know, uphill edge, you know,

998
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 4: buried and so I'm never catching a toe side edge

999
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: and breaking this this body down.

1000
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 3: I'm very conservative, but there is fun.

1001
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: I'm very proud that you gave it a go in

1002
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: your fifties, right, you sa start in your fifties.

1003
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm ruined if my daughter actually listens to this,

1004
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 4: but like we've both been wakesurfing for a decade and

1005
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 4: we're both you know, just pretty good wakesurfers, you know,

1006
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 4: I got yeah, and you know, tricks and stuff like

1007
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 4: we're we're like quite My daughter and I are both

1008
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: quite ill.

1009
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 3: Sound like the.

1010
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: President of my own fan club here, but we're both

1011
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: pretty down, good wakesurfers and yeah, but she's been snowboarding forever.

1012
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 4: I've always been skiing. But last winter we have a

1013
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: place in New Hampshire and uh and uh, I bought

1014
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 4: a snowboard and she doesn't know that. I must have

1015
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,439
Speaker 4: gone maybe six or eight times last winter.

1016
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 3: So I'm decent.

1017
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I'm like upper beginner or very lower intermediate

1018
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 4: is where I would assess myself. But nonetheless, when I

1019
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 4: get to go with her this winter, I'm gonna I'm

1020
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: gonna go for the air quote first time, and I'm

1021
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 4: just gonna rip it down and she'll be like, dad,

1022
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 4: how did you like learn so fast?

1023
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: And I'll just be like, I don't know, this is easy.

1024
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. I love it. Yeah. No, my

1025
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 2: snowboards sit right here. They're just waiting for some snow.

1026
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: I even't got the fireplace all year just to make

1027
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 2: snow happen. You know, it's like it's like, let's go.

1028
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 2: I know I've had you for almost an hour of time.

1029
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 2: And I know you're a busy dude, just got done

1030
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: to another press and you know, with all these big

1031
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: letter acronyms out there, and I'm so happy and humbled

1032
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,760
Speaker 2: that you came on to soft Rep Radio to speak

1033
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 2: to me and speak to my listener and the viewers

1034
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: out there. And you know, I mean there's guys all

1035
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 2: over the world.

1036
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, for those who are looking on, I'm yes, I'm

1037
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 4: wearing a suit. I was just on the floor of

1038
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 4: the New York Stock Exchange and doing an interview on

1039
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,479
Speaker 4: NYSE and so I apologize for being overdressed. But listen,

1040
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: I say this from the bottom of my heart, like

1041
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: this listener group, the soft the militar Harry community, the

1042
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 4: soft community that is that that's my people and and

1043
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: and that's who I will always be. And so it's

1044
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,800
Speaker 4: really like I could do a million things on the planet.

1045
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 4: This is the most special to me, and I really

1046
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: really appreciate, you know, not the opportunity not just to

1047
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: have a fun conversation, but to really help, you know,

1048
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,959
Speaker 4: get the to elevate the conversation. Like please read Mission Driven,

1049
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 4: recommend it to others. Please jump on Amazon, do your

1050
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 4: review like there's a million books out in the world,

1051
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 4: like should this should be the conversation help? Well, we're

1052
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 4: all on the same team here, I would. This isn't

1053
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: about me. This is about like the right books, making

1054
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 4: it up and helping the conversations in the nation. And

1055
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: then as as we've talked a few times through here,

1056
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 4: all of that legitimately literally helps individual gold Star families,

1057
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: and uh so, I'm just thrilled to be here. Couldn't

1058
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 4: thank you more. You can find me on Instagram. This

1059
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 4: is dot Mike hays on on X. This is Mike case.

1060
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: There's no dot for for so again, this is dot

1061
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 4: Mike has for for Instagram. This is my case for Twitter.

1062
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 4: It's easy to find me. But I'm just really really

1063
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: thrilled to be here and so appreciative of everybody who's

1064
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 4: in this softwarep community.

1065
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: And I will have those tags for your handles put

1066
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 2: down below for my listener and viewer. So if you're

1067
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: watching this or you're listening to this, you can check

1068
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,680
Speaker 2: out you know soft reap dot com just click on

1069
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: one of the links. Again, you can check out his Instagram.

1070
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: I feel that Mike is approachable like I am as well,

1071
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 2: so you know, I'll probably reply, He'll probably reply. Check

1072
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 2: it out, you know, go check out the book Mission Driven,

1073
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 2: The Path to a Life of Purpose. Mike. I feel

1074
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 2: that you have always been that way. I know that

1075
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: you have a mortgage to pay too, but that's very

1076
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: cool of you to take care of the families and

1077
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 2: just never let it go, okay until you can't. And

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Speaker 2: so I'm just saying, on behalf of everybody, thanks for

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Speaker 2: what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, thank you, thank you, thank you, appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: And to my yeah, and to my young guy out

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Speaker 2: there that never got to join the military because you

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Speaker 2: got asthma, or maybe you were born premature and they

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00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 2: wouldn't let you in, you know, go get this book.

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Speaker 2: You're a part of the community too, right. It's like

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Speaker 2: I don't think that Mike would disagree.

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Speaker 3: With that, right, We all, we all serve in different ways.

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Speaker 4: You don't have to wear a uniform to serve, you know,

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Speaker 4: we We've said this very like back earlier. All different

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Speaker 4: gifts and interest and abilities and skills and and and

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Speaker 4: it doesn't if you if you can't wear the uniform

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Speaker 4: or you haven't worned the uniform, that's okay. The question

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Speaker 4: is do you recognize that we all serve each other

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Speaker 4: because that is service. And do you get off the

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Speaker 4: sidelines and take ownership and accountability for this great nation?

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Speaker 4: Do you you know you getting plastics out of the ocean,

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Speaker 4: or cleaning up the forests, or teach for America, whatever

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Speaker 4: your thing is, are you taking ownership and accountability to

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Speaker 4: help make us better as individuals and as a nation.

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Speaker 3: That's that's what the book is about. Really.

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Speaker 2: I love that, and we're gonna let that be the

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Speaker 2: end of our conversation. And I just want to say

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Speaker 2: that you should go out and check out Mission Driven.

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00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 2: Go download the audible, Go buy the book, support the

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Speaker 2: gold Star families, support Mike Hayes and his mission. And

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Speaker 2: again Mike Hayes Man Sealed Team Commander, Seal Team Too. Hello,

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Speaker 2: you know we're bringing you the hints right here. The

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Speaker 2: rock stars are on the show. You guys like rad

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Speaker 2: when are you gonna bring me the Seal two Seal

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Speaker 2: Team two commander, Well, here you go, okay, and I

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Speaker 2: hope that you have enjoyed the show yourself. Mike and

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Speaker 2: on behalf of my boss Brandon Webb, you know, former

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Speaker 2: Navy Seal Sniper instructor and all the guys and gals

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Speaker 2: behind the scenes here at soft Rep. I just want

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Speaker 2: to say thanks for taking the time out of your

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Speaker 2: busy day to come onto our show and talk about

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Speaker 2: your book.

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Speaker 4: Mission Pleasure's entirely mine has been my honor and I've

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Speaker 4: enjoyed it thoroughly. So thank you again, rad and Brandon

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Speaker 4: and everybody else on the team.

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Speaker 2: All right, cool, And if I ever get out to Arlington,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go check out that Medal of Honor Museum

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Speaker 2: and you know, and pay my respects. So thank you

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Speaker 2: so much. And this is rad On behalf of Mike

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Speaker 2: Hayes and Brandon and everybody here at so Rep and

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Speaker 2: our nation. Peace.

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Speaker 1: M you've been listening to self replada, mm hmm