1 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Part Time Genius, the production of Kaleidoscope 2 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: and iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Guess what, Mango, what's that? Well, you know I love numbers, 4 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: so I'm going to start out with a big number here. 5 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: Did you know that there are over three hundred and 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: fifty different pasta shapes? Mango, I didn't know that, which 7 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: means there are over three hundred and fifty different pasta 8 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: shape names. That's really what I'm getting at here, each 9 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: with its own backstories. So you want to hear one 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: of my favorites. 11 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: Obviously I want to hear because this would have been. 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 2: A very short episode if you're like, no, not really 13 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: really in the mood for one of those this today? 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Not the carbs, Yeah, not carbs today. All right, So 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: this story is all about Kava Tapi, which is that long, 16 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: loose spiral, and it turns out it was originally called Chillin' 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 2: Tani after an Italian pop star, So tell me, what. 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: Does a pop star have to do with pasta? 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 2: So cell and Tani was originally created by the company Gorilla, 20 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 2: but it was a mistake. It happened because of a 21 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: problem with aposthadize that they were using. So those are 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: the molds that you feed the dough through to give 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: the final producted shape. And so in the nineteen sixties, 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,480 Speaker 2: Brilla had some dyes that were supposed to have these 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: very straight lines but accidentally ended up with curvy ones. 26 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: So workers fed the dough through and out came this 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 2: new corkscrew shape. Now, because the shape was springy, it 28 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 2: reminded people of the company of the singer Andreano Cellantano, 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: who was known for his high energy bouncy dancing. So 30 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 2: Brilla trademarked the name cell and Tani and they are 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 2: selling it under that name today. And the shape became 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: so popular that other companies wanted to get in on 33 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 2: this game, but they actually couldn't use Gorilla's trademark, so 34 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 2: they called it Kava tapi, which comes from the Italian 35 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 2: word for corkscrew. But actually, here's a little bon this 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 2: fact for you. The most popular pasta shape in the 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: United States is something much more straightforward than a corkscrew. It's, 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: of course, spaghetti, which can be translated as little strings. 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, I want to say how amazing 40 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 1: it is. The Brilla tried to make a straight pasta 41 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: and it ended up permed total. 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: Perm must have been a humid that day. 43 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: But I also love the idea that spaghetti translates as 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: little strings. Does that mean that like a single piece 45 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: of spaghetti is actually a spaghetto? 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: That is absolutely what it means. So now you can 47 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: go to Italy and order a single noodle, just like 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 2: all the locals do there. 49 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't think anyone can stop at just one foodle 50 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: But in addition to being delicious, all this pasta is 51 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: packed with history, which is the best flavor of all. 52 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: So today on the show, we've gotten nine fact about 53 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: Italian pasta. So grab your fourth and that's not even an. 54 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: Hey, their podcast listener is welcome to part time Genius. 55 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm Will Pearson Ennis Always. I'm here with my good 56 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: friend Mangush hot ticket here and over there in the 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 2: booth dressed up. It took me a minute, but he's 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: dressed up like a Pizza Hut restaurant with a red 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: roof hat. It's really it's impressive. Actually, it's our pal 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 2: and producer Dylan Fagan, always surprising us. 61 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: I think that's from the Pizza Hut stunt where they 62 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: claimed they were changing their name to Pasta Hut. 63 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: Do you remember I actually actually don't. But is that 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: a real thing? 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah? It was an April Fool's joke and they talked 66 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: about changing all their names, and people were outraged or excited, 67 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,119 Speaker 1: depending on how much they love pasta. But I love 68 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: that Dylan picked up on it. 69 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: That's pretty amazing. 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: So will are you a big pasta eater? 71 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: I love pasta so so so much, how about you? 72 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: So much that every time I go for a business lunch, 73 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: I tell myself I'm gonna order the salad, and then 74 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I just end up with like a bowl of bread. 75 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: It's too hard not to have. 76 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: No willpower for the stuff. But here is my first fact. 77 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: So I want to address a question I know people 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: would be asking, which is what is the difference between 79 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: pasta and noodles. Now I've heard some folks say that 80 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: pasta is Italian and noodles are from other cuisines, like 81 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: Chinese rice noodles or Korean sweet potato noodles. But for 82 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: the purposes of this episode, we are going with the 83 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Oxford English Dictionaries definition, and the OED defines a noodle 84 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: as quote a string or ribbon like piece of pasta 85 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: or similar flour paste, sometimes containing egg, typically cooked in 86 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: liquid and served either in a soup or as an 87 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: accompaniment to another dish. 88 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 2: So noodles can be a type of pasta, but they 89 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 2: aren't always. 90 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the oed goes on to define pasta as quote, 91 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: especially an Italian cookery thin strands, sheets, or other shapes 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: of dome made from Durham wheat and water, sometimes enriched 93 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: with egg, usually sold dried and cooked in boiling water. 94 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: All right, So by this definition, spaghetti is a type 95 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 2: of noodle and a type of pasta. And something like 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: pusilli obviously is a pasta, but not a noodle, is 97 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: that right? 98 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: That's right? And rice noodles are noodles, but they're not 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: pasta because they're not Italian and they're also not made 100 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: from this particular type of wheat. 101 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Got it understood? 102 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: So we might get some emails about this, but that's 103 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: where we stand. And speaking of strong opinions, we ask 104 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: people to tell us about their favorite pasta shapes. And 105 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: this is so much fun. A lot of folks talked 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: about sauce grabability as their number one factor in determining this. 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: Our friend Doug Mack, who writes the Great Snackstack Newsletter 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 1: which everyone should subscribe to said he loves fettuccini because 109 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: you can wrap it around a fork, but unlike spaghetti, 110 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: it's flat, so sauce sticks to it better. Over on 111 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: Blue Sky, someone with the user named gravel Influencer, which 112 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: I also really love, describes themselves as a hardcore fan 113 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: of Jammelli. Again for sauce reasons. Stacey chose Campanelle, and 114 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: I have to admit I'd never heard of that one. 115 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: It is a cone with ruffled edge and the name 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: means little bells, but it's also known as trumpetti or 117 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: trump bits and I actually have a picture of this. 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 1: It's amazing. You can see how sauce would really get 119 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: right down there in the horn part. Man, I want 120 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: to eat that, I know I want. I actually want 121 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: like a pasta Biles Davis, steady kind. Another one I 122 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: had to look up was Strozza Preete, which actually was 123 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: mentioned by a few folks on Blue Sky. Strotza prete 124 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: means priest strangler. 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 2: Priest strangler, what? Why does it mean? That? 126 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: It is a long hand rolled tube shape kind of 127 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: like cavatelli. Apparently the name reflects local opinions about greedy 128 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: priest from a time when the Catholic Church owned most 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: of the land and charge farmers high rent. There's also 130 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: the user ham Hawk, who shouted out cascatelli, which of 131 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: course is the curved ruffled shape invented by Dan Pashman 132 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: on his pcast. And I love this response from Faisal, 133 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: who said there is no best pasta shape. They're all 134 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: beautiful and it depends on the sauce. And although we 135 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: didn't ask about this, a few people did tell us 136 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: about their least favorite pasta shape. A listener named Oriole 137 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: wrote to say that spaghetti is just too thick, angel 138 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: hair and vermicelli are better, and over on Blue Sky, 139 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: user l nk Joe said the worst shape is obviously 140 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: rakeete or rackets, and he shared a photo and they 141 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: literally look like tennis rackets. Yeah, so even as a 142 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: tennis fan, it feels like more like a gimmick than 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: a proper delivery vehicle for all the red sauce I want, 144 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: so I agree with them. 145 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: I'm looking at this now it actually reminds me. I 146 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: don't know, I haven't thought about this in a while, 147 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,119 Speaker 2: but like all the different shapes in the I probably 148 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't be admitting this, but I ate a ton of 149 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 2: Chef Boyarty as a kid Mango. You know, all the 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: parents at were pull out those microwave Chef Boyardy all 151 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: sorts of fun, crazy shapes. I don't think I remember 152 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 2: like a sports win, but this feel like it would 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: fit right in. Do you have a favorite shape of pasta? 154 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, my shapes are so boring. I really love 155 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: taglia and buccatini because they are just from times in 156 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: my life when they were comfort food, you know, like 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: when we started Metal Flass, I was working at this 158 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: Italian restaurant in Durham called Tusca, and the chefs used 159 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: to make me this incredible Spanish tagle itally and it 160 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: was just really wonderful. And so I think about that 161 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: a lot. 162 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 2: All right, mego, since you cleared up the noodles versus 163 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,199 Speaker 2: pasta controversy, I'm going to open up another can of 164 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 2: worms here, which sounds like an avant garden noodle dish, 165 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: But I'm going to tackle the question of where noodles 166 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 2: originated and how they came to be associated with Italian cuisine. 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: So for a long time, there was this myth that 168 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 2: persisted that Marco Polo brought noodles from China to Italy. 169 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: This was back during the thirteenth century. Now, this story 170 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: spread after it was published in nineteen twenty nine in 171 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: the Macaroni Journal, the United States official trade journal for 172 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 2: pasta manufacture. I can't believe, after all our years of 173 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 2: magazine publishing, we'd never heard of the Macaroni Journal. 174 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 1: I know, I both want to see a copy of 175 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: the Macaroni Journal, and I also can't believe that the 176 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: distinguished Macaroni Journal made an error. 177 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I guess they didn't have a strong fact checking team. 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: But weirdly, the Marco Polo story is pretty easy to disprove. 179 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: Decades before Marco Polo embarked on his journey, Muslim geographer 180 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 2: Ali Dresi wrote about pasta being made in Sicily. Also, 181 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 2: noodles and pasta have been eaten for thousands of years, 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,079 Speaker 2: so it's impossible to say for certain who invented them. 183 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: They hold an important place in cuisines across Europe, Asia 184 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 2: and North Africa. However, the oldest known direct evidence of 185 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 2: noodles does come from northwest China, where in two thousand 186 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 2: and five archaeologists found a four thousand year old bowl 187 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: of noodles. They were made of millet and had been 188 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: miraculously preserved in a sealed bowl. How cool is that. 189 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: I love that they found this like ancient tupperware with 190 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: like lunch leftovers in it. But tell me, if all 191 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: these people are eating pasta noodles, how did it become 192 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: Italy signature dish? 193 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: Well, Southern Italy grows a lot of Durham wheat, this 194 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: high protein wheat that makes dough that's easy to shape, 195 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: and pasta with a nice chewy bite to it. So 196 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 2: by the Middle Ages, pasta was an important part of 197 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: Italian cuisine, and Sicily was one of the world's largest 198 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: producers of dried pasta, But it was really a delicacy 199 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 2: for wealthy people. It was served at things like banquets 200 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: and festive meals. This changed by the seventeenth century, when 201 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: machines like the dough press made pasta easier to produce, 202 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: so at that point pasta became food for more common people, 203 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: especially since it was cheaper than meat. 204 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: I love watching how food filters down right, like peanut 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: butter was fancy and served at these elegant cafes and 206 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: things like that, And now everyone survives on peanut butter. 207 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: It's for the masses. But you know, pasta might be 208 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: easy to make, but it doesn't grow on trees. And 209 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: yet in nineteen fifty the BBC convinced a whole lot 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: of people that it does. So on April first of 211 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: that year, the TV channel aired their flagship news program Panorama. 212 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: But this broadcast was pretty unusual. It showed a family 213 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: in Switzerland doing their March spaghetti harvest where they were 214 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 1: pulling these strands of spaghetti from trees and according to 215 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: the voiceover of reporter Richard Dimbleby, this was a great 216 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: year for Swiss spaghetti harvesters thanks to a mild winter 217 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: and the disappearance of the spaghetti weavil. Wow, I think 218 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: it's just so funny. Eight million people watched this phony 219 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: broadcast and it said to be one of the first 220 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: times TV was used to play in April Fool's Day prank. 221 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 2: That is wild, but really, like, did anybody actually believe 222 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: this was real? 223 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: So many people, like hundreds of people called the BBC 224 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: to ask if they could buy a spaghetti tree, which 225 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: you know sounds ludicrous, But Richard Dimblebee was one of 226 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: the UK's most prominent reporters, so having his voice on 227 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: the broadcast gave it this real credibility. And the show's producer, 228 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: David Wheeler put it this way. Dimblebee had quote enough 229 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: gravitas to float an aircraft carrier. 230 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 2: So it's kind of like having Walter Cronk tighten on 231 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 2: your prank exactly. 232 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: And people also weren't eating a lot of spaghetti in 233 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties in Britain. When they did, it often 234 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: came in a can, so they didn't spend much time 235 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: thinking about where it came from. Plus the broadcast looked 236 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: really incredible. The BBC went all out. They sent a 237 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: cameraman to Switzerland. He got great shots of like fake 238 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: spaghetti trees and people gathering the crop to put in 239 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: their wicker baskets. It's really amazing. But not everyone found 240 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: the hoax funny. David Wheeler actually explained that some people 241 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: were embarrassed when they believed it, and their friends and 242 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: families made fun of them. Other viewers, of course, thought 243 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: it was hilarious either way. It has since become one 244 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 1: of the most iconic April Fools pranks ever. 245 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: I love it all right, Well, we have to take 246 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 2: a quick break but when we come back, here's what 247 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 2: we've got in store. We've got his prison escape, we've 248 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 2: got the world's rarest noodle, and Italy's pasta purity law, 249 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: so don't go anywhere. 250 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Part Time Genius, where we're counting down 251 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 1: nine facts about Italian pasta. 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They 269 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: also look cool in your wallet, on your bulletin board 270 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: or in a frame over your couch. 271 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: I mean, the options are so many options, and all 272 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: that for zero dollars. I mean it's a real bargain, 273 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 2: all right, Mega. Now that the self promotion is over, 274 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: I think it's time to get back to. 275 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: The PASTA great, what do you have, Froze next? 276 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: I've got one word. Casanova said, you know much about 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: this guy? 278 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: I just know you know this modern meaning as kind 279 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: of a ladies man. 280 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think that's true of many people. And that's 281 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 2: a shame, because before Jacomo Casanova got reduced to his 282 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: dating life, he was really interesting. He was born in 283 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: Italy in seventeen twenty five, went on to have these 284 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: crazy adventures. He traveled all over Europe, worked for Frederick 285 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: the Second, was a spy, introduced the lottery to Paris, 286 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 2: and created a notable translation of the Iliad. All along 287 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 2: the way he hobnobbed with Voltaire, Catherine the Great, Benjamin Franklin. 288 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: I mean, this is kind of a wild background. He's 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 2: often described as an adventurer, which is a descriptor we 290 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: just don't see enough in modern times. But I should 291 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: copy out that most of what we know about Casanova 292 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: comes from his own writing, and so experts say some 293 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: of it might be just a tad embellished. 294 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it sounds like he genuinely had this impressive life. 295 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: It's weird that he was like gilding his stories. 296 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 2: The point is this next anecdote comes from Casanova, so 297 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: take it with a grain of salt. But here is 298 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: what he tells us. It was seventeen fifty five, he 299 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: was thirty years old, and Casanova was sentenced to five 300 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: years in a Venetian prison for being a con man, 301 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: slash astrologer, slash gambler, slash a bunch of other disreputable 302 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: stuff in the eighteenth century worldview. So a lot going 303 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 2: on here. But luckily, in prison he has access to 304 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: a sharpened iron bar, which he then uses to start 305 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: chipping a hole in the wall of his cell you know, 306 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: Shawshank redemption style and everything. But as he's about to finish, 307 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: he gets moved to another cell. So now in order 308 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: to make his escape, he has to bring an accomplice, 309 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: a disgraced friar who's willing to keep working on the 310 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: hole in the wall. But Casanova has to get him 311 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 2: the iron bar somehow. So first he tries hiding it 312 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: in a Bible, but the book doesn't quite cover the 313 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: ends of it. So he fixes up this massive plate 314 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 2: of macaroni, parmesan, cheese, and butter to put on top 315 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: of the bible, and he hands the whole thing to 316 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: a guard to deliver to his friend. Now, the guard 317 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: is so focused on trying to keep the pasta from 318 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: spilling that he doesn't notice what's going on under the plate. 319 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: I have no idea how this would go unnoticed. 320 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: I know, instead of just asking for a bigger Bible, 321 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: right right exactly. I also love that, like inmates in 322 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Italian prisons are just making plates of pasta whatever they want. 323 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 2: As soon as I saw that, it was like, so, 324 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: how did he have access to all this stuff? I mean, 325 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: if they didn't good solos, they might have been able 326 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: to do it in the old days too. But you know, 327 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: like I said, we don't have the most reliable sourcing 328 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: for this. And whether or not the pasta story is true, 329 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,479 Speaker 2: it is true that Casanova and his friar were the 330 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 2: only people ever known to escape that prison. 331 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: How ridiculous would you feel if you're the guard who 332 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: got fooled by the old plate of macaroni truck. Yeah 333 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: under the macaroni. Well. Another important eighteenth century figure in 334 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: the world of pasta is Francesco Leonardi, who gets credit 335 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: as being the first person to combine pasta with tomato sauce. 336 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: Obviously genius, and this comes from his cookbook Lapicchio moden 337 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: or No. The recipe is called macaroni in the style 338 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: of Naples, and in the first edition of the book, 339 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: published in seventeen ninety, the recipe reads quote, cook macaroni 340 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: with water and salt, and when it's three quarters done, 341 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: grain and mix it in an earthenware terine with grated parmesan, 342 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: crushed pepper, and a sauce of veal or other beef 343 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: or a good broth from a stew, either plain or 344 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: with cloves strained through a sieve. 345 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 2: Now centuries later, that still sounds delicious, but he doesn't 346 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 2: mention tomatoes. 347 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, so history was actually made with the second edition, 348 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 1: which came out eighteen years later, and in that version 349 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: of the recipe, after the cloths and before the straining, 350 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: Leonardo added the groundbreaking phrase made with tomato sauce, So 351 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: that note changed pasta forever. 352 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 2: We all owe him a great dead Now, as long 353 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: as we're talking about noteworthy recipes, let me tell you 354 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: about the rarest most challenging pasta recipe in the world. 355 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 2: It's called Threads of God. 356 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,119 Speaker 1: I feel like they plagiarized that name from my fashion 357 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: label that I'm starting, but I love how intimidating it sounds. 358 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: Well, it is intimidating. So the dish comes from the 359 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: village of Lula in Sardinia, where it's known as sufielin Deu. Now, 360 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 2: for three hundred years, only women in that region knew 361 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: how to make this pasta. The recipe was passed down 362 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: from mother to for centuries. As far as how it's made, 363 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: it starts with semolina flour made from local Durham wheat, 364 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: and they combine that with salt and water. Then they stretch, fold, 365 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: and loop the dough until it becomes two hundred and 366 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: fifty six individual threads that are extremely delicate, even thinner 367 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 2: than angel hair. Now, after this time consuming process, the 368 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: threads get layered to form a sort of a like 369 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: a woven sheet. Now, then the sheets get dried in 370 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: the sun, smashed up, cooked in mutton broth, and served 371 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: with cheese. 372 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: So I get where the threads come from. But what 373 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: is the religious significance. 374 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 2: Well, traditionally those noodles are only made for the Feast 375 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: of San Francesco. The dish was served to Christians who 376 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: made the pilgrimage to Lula for these celebrations. So it's 377 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 2: a special occasion meal, which makes sense given how difficult 378 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 2: it is to make. Now, I'm sure you're wondering, how 379 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 2: can I try this dish? But the bad news is 380 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 2: gorilla engineers once tried to build a machine that would 381 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: produce the noodles commercially, and it was a total failure. 382 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: Remember back to when they try to just make a 383 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: straight pasta ended up curly. That was always a way 384 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: too confusing. So the good news is that the women 385 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 2: who know how to make the threads of God have 386 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: begun sharing their recipe so that it doesn't die out. 387 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 2: There's even a restaurant in West Hollywood called Stella that 388 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: actually serves it. 389 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 1: Oh man, we need to make a trip. That's right 390 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,719 Speaker 1: near the Daily Zeikai studio. That's right, okay. So I 391 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: am glad you mentioned Semlina flower because my next fact 392 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: is all about how Italy cracked down on pasta ingredients. 393 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: So as ladies in Lula know Semolina flower is ground 394 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: from Durham wheat, and that ends up being the gold 395 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: standard for pasta. It's this coarse flower that's considered hard 396 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: because of its high protein content. But the truth is 397 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: you can make pasta from other types of flour, and 398 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: that's why in nineteen sixty seven, Italy passeda pasta purity 399 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: law that required all dried pasta sold in Italy to 400 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: be made with Durham wheat. 401 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: So it was literally against the law to sell any 402 00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 2: other kind. 403 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and this actually lasted until the late nineteen eighties 404 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: when this German pasta manufacturer named three Glocan got hit 405 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: with a fine for selling pasta. Their pasta contained a 406 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: mixture of Durham wheat and a common wheat, and they 407 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: were selling it in Italian stores. Now three Glocan took 408 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: the Italian government to court in what became known as 409 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: the Pasta Wars, and in nineteen eighty eight, the European 410 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Economic Community's Court of Justice sided with three Glocken. They 411 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: ruled that the pasta purity law couldn't ban foreign pasta imports, 412 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: though it could impose Durham wheat requirements on Italian pasta makers. 413 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty one, Italy doubled down with the 414 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: Italian Presidential Decree number one hundred and eighty seven, which 415 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: affirms that Italian made drive pasta must be made with 416 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: Durham wheat semolina. That's actually been a boon for Italy's 417 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: wheat growers, because today Italian pasta contains about seventy percent 418 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: domestic Durham wheat and only thirty percent imported. 419 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: I'll keep that in mind if I ever decided to 420 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: open a pasta business in Italy, of course. But we've 421 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 2: got one last fact, and it involves food mascots, so 422 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 2: you know, like the Jolly Green Giant, the kool Aid 423 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: Man and mister Peen out of course, none of whom, unfortunately, 424 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 2: are real people. But there's one food mascot who was 425 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: a real person. Mentioned him earlier, Chef Boyrd. So his 426 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 2: real name was Ettore Boyardi. His last name is spelled Boiardi, 427 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 2: and you'll notice the emphasis on the middle syllable, not 428 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: the last. So Ettore, who went by the name Hector, 429 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 2: was actually born in northwest Italy in eighteen ninety seven. 430 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 2: By age eleven, he already had a job working at 431 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 2: a hotel, and after immigrating to the US at age sixteen, 432 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: he got a job at the Plaza hotel in New York. 433 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 2: Within a year, he was the head chef there. I mean, 434 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 2: this is sixteen years old or seventeen, I guess by 435 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 2: the time he had this Jesob It's crazy. So he 436 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 2: started incorporating Italian dishes into the menu, which was pretty 437 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 2: unusual during this time when French food was considered the 438 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 2: epitome of gourmet cuisine. Because his career took off, Hector 439 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: even catered President Woodrow Wilson's second wedding when he got 440 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 2: married to Edith Glt in nineteen fifteen. 441 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: That feels like such an incredible success story. So how 442 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: did Chef Boyardi become Chef Boyardi? 443 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 2: Hector moved to Cleveland and opened a restaurant with his wife, Helen. 444 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,479 Speaker 2: It was called Il Giardino di Italia or The Garden 445 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 2: of Italy, and it was a hit. So their signature 446 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: dish was spaghetti with sauce and cheese, which customers loved 447 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 2: so much that the restaurant started offering take home kits 448 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 2: so people could cook it themselves at any time. Now 449 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: the popularity of their takeout business led Hector, Helen, and 450 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: Hector's brothers to launch the Chef Boyardy Food Company in 451 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 2: nineteen twenty eight. Now, to make things simpler for American customers, 452 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 2: they changed the spelling of their name to the one 453 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 2: that we know today. But when the family wanted to 454 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 2: open a factory for their ready made Italian meals, they 455 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,440 Speaker 2: had a little bit of a dilemma. So Italian food 456 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: still wasn't very common in the US at the time, 457 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 2: so they had to pick a strategic location in order 458 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: to access the right ingredients. They landed on Milton, Pennsylvania 459 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: because there was a nearby tomato supplier, so they grew 460 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: their own mushrooms inside the factory and in the nineteen thirties, 461 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 2: shep Boyarty was the country's largest importer of Italian parmesan cheese. 462 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,719 Speaker 2: So the brand grows and it grows, and in nineteen 463 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 2: forty two, after the US military commission Boyarty for army rations, 464 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: the Milton factory ran twenty four hours a day just 465 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: to meet demand. At its peak, the factory turned out 466 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand cans of Shepeoyardy every single day. 467 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: That would have made thirteen year old Will's mouth water 468 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: so much. 469 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: Now. 470 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: After the war, the family sold the company to American 471 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: Home Foods, but Hector continued to work for them as 472 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 2: a consultant all the way until nineteen seventy eight. He 473 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: died a millionaire in nineteen eighty five. And you know, 474 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 2: not bad for an immigrant kid who just wanted to 475 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 2: share his spaghetti. 476 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: Oh, I love it. You know, I did not eat 477 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: a lot of chefbardy as a kid, but I certainly 478 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: lot the commercials. And I loved that this brought you 479 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: back to him before that. I'm going to give you 480 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: the trophy for today. 481 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 2: You know, I just wish I could share it with Hector. 482 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 2: He really did all the work. I'm just talking about it. 483 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: Well, Hem and Dylan. So that does it for us today. 484 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: If you enjoyed what you heard, be sure to subscribe, 485 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: leave us a nice rating, and share the show with 486 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: a friend, maybe even over a plate of pasta. Today's 487 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: episode was researched and written by our goodpal Meredith Danko, 488 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: whose favorite pasta shape is brotini. We will be back 489 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: next week with another new episode, and in the meantime, 490 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: from Will, Dylan, Gabe, Mary and myself. Thank you so. 491 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 2: Much for listening. 492 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: Part Time Genius is a production of Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. 493 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,439 Speaker 1: At His host by my good pal Will Pearson, who 494 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 1: I've known for almost three decades now. That is insane 495 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: to me. I'm the Utaco host, Mangeshatikular aka Mango. Our 496 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: producer is Mary Phillips Sandy. She's actually a super producer. 497 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm going to fix that in post. Our writer is 498 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: Gabe Lucier, who I've also known for like a decade 499 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: at this point, maybe more. Dylan Fagan is in the booth. 500 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: He is always dressed up, always cheering us on, and 501 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: always ready to hit record and then mix the show 502 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: after he does a great job. I also want to 503 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: shout out the executive producers from iHeart my good pals 504 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Katrina and Norvel and Ali Perry. We have social media 505 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: support from Calypso Rallis. If you like our videos, that 506 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: is all Calypso's handiwork for more podcasts from Kaleidoscope and iHeartRadio. 507 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or tune in wherever 508 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows. That's it from us 509 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: here at part Time genius, Thank you so much for 510 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: listening