WEBVTT - She Had His Baby

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today is

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<v Speaker 2>the most exciting episode we've ever had because it is

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<v Speaker 2>Ben and Jess's baby story. They just got on. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the first time I've seen Ben for twelve days. But

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<v Speaker 2>I said, it feels like eternity because there's been so

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<v Speaker 2>much that has happened in his life since. And I

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<v Speaker 2>also feel like you guys are celebrities right now because

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<v Speaker 2>because like it's like, do I even know you anymore?

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<v Speaker 2>Is there like a whole other perse your tool are people? Okay? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>birth stories are my absolute favorite. I want every single

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<v Speaker 2>detail of it. But first, how are you doing well?

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<v Speaker 3>First of all, I knew that you would want every detail,

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<v Speaker 3>so I literally journaled timestamps.

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<v Speaker 4>She did, and we talked about it in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 4>She goes, It's gonna be so great to talk about

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<v Speaker 4>this with Ashley because I have everything timestamp Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Like why do I love birth stories with so much detail?

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<v Speaker 3>I think because they're all so different, and like I

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<v Speaker 3>want to tell mine now like I want everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you get it, right, I totally get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It Also is just like such a big accomplishment that

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<v Speaker 3>you like want everyone to know what you've done.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, yeah, I think that there's definitely because

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<v Speaker 2>there's a uniqueness to every single one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone is just like you're right. Everyone is like a

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<v Speaker 2>rocky story. Well I don't know if I called mine

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<v Speaker 2>a rocky stores. I was like, it's easy, but okay, ready,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, we checked into the hospital Monday night at

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<v Speaker 3>seven thirty.

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<v Speaker 4>Ish, I'll add because we had a plan and the

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<v Speaker 4>hospital had us at a check in time. We did

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<v Speaker 4>something I would recommend to every couple that is able

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<v Speaker 4>that is kind of planning an induction. We went to

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<v Speaker 4>a great dinner together before we went to the hospital,

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<v Speaker 4>so so cute. We have like a little date night.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was weird because I was like, when we

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<v Speaker 4>leave here, we're pulling up to a hospital to have

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<v Speaker 4>a baby. So that's how we start our evening.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, and we checked in Monday, Monday night.

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<v Speaker 3>Monday night, and I obviously I wasn't in active labor.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like barely dilated. So their goal overnight was

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<v Speaker 3>to get me dilated. We knew that she was head

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<v Speaker 3>down and so I just like got all checked out,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they started to give me sidotech to get

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<v Speaker 3>dilated at like eight thirty that night, so I got

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<v Speaker 3>that every four hours, and I started to have contractions

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<v Speaker 3>at like nine thirty, but there wasn't any pattern to

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<v Speaker 3>them or anything like that. So then they kept trying

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<v Speaker 3>to put like the balloon in to dilate my cervix faster.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have the epidurla with the balloon in? No?

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<v Speaker 4>Why not?

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<v Speaker 3>I told you. My nurse told me. She was like,

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<v Speaker 3>you can do it without an epidural, because because I

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't dilated at all, she was like, if you get up,

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<v Speaker 3>a girl you like can't get up for who knows

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<v Speaker 3>how long. And I'm actually glad I didn't because I

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<v Speaker 3>end up laboring for thirty six hours. So I was

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<v Speaker 3>happy to be able to get up and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm just this is not my story obviously, so

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just going to chime in with my thoughts a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit during this.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, Yeah, we need the chime in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, We're gonna put a balloon in to help the dilation.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, Oh, that doesn't sound that aggressive. Okay, just

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<v Speaker 4>remember that thought. Just remember that thought, as she continues.

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<v Speaker 3>So they try to put it in at twelve am,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't ready for it, but I did get

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<v Speaker 3>pain management in my IV throughout. I wasn't like totally

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<v Speaker 3>toughing it out because it was really aggressive. And then

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<v Speaker 3>they tried to get at one forty five, but I

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<v Speaker 3>still wasn't dilated. And then at four am they were

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<v Speaker 3>finally able to get it in. So I'd had like

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<v Speaker 3>three doses of the side attech by then, So we've

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<v Speaker 3>got the balloon in.

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<v Speaker 2>How many centimeters were you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was only one to get the Holy moly, girl,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. So then I got another side of TECK

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<v Speaker 3>at eight fifteen to get even more dilated. And then

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<v Speaker 3>at like around ten am, they tried to get the

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<v Speaker 3>balloon out because it had been in there for six

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<v Speaker 3>hours and it wasn't ready. And then they tried to

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<v Speaker 3>get at one forty five and they only got half

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<v Speaker 3>of it out, so then I still had like another

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<v Speaker 3>half in because it makes like a sandwich around your cervix,

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<v Speaker 3>so the other half was still in and so we

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<v Speaker 3>were basically just like waiting all day.

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<v Speaker 2>What did it feel like?

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<v Speaker 3>Just like a lot of pressure, okay, And like I

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<v Speaker 3>was still getting up and going to the bathroom and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just felt like it just felt yeah, pressure

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<v Speaker 3>and like there was something stuck up my body, which

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<v Speaker 3>there was.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you feel like with the contractions intense at this point?

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<v Speaker 3>They weren't. It was more like cramping contractions. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>like active, active labor. Okay, it really wasn't that bad.

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<v Speaker 3>We were just sitting around.

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<v Speaker 4>I know why you're asking me. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 4>you were in time.

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<v Speaker 2>I see the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, it wasn't that bad, right, yeah, or like

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<v Speaker 2>that part was bad, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Such a blur. But then at four they got the

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<v Speaker 3>balloon out and I was four cin ameters dilated and

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<v Speaker 3>they could feel her head, and then at four point

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<v Speaker 3>thirty I started to have like the craziest contraction. So

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<v Speaker 3>four thirty PM on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so you are already like been in bed for

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<v Speaker 2>almost two full days.

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<v Speaker 3>Now almost one? Yeah, one full day?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah it was Monday, Okay, so never Tuesday at

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<v Speaker 2>a pm? Okay, yeah, yes almost for us.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So that Tuesday afternoon, we were just like sitting

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<v Speaker 3>talking to my parents, and all of a sudden I

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<v Speaker 3>was getting like the worst pain in contractions, ever, and

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<v Speaker 3>so we called in the nurse to get my epidural started.

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<v Speaker 3>And so that's this is where the action happens. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been kind of bowing up to this point.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, because is Ben's caption. I wasn't sure if

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<v Speaker 2>it was all about just the birth of his daughter

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<v Speaker 2>being like the craziest adventure, or whether there was an

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<v Speaker 2>adventure to the birth.

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<v Speaker 4>There was an adventure, I'd say, no matter what, Like

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<v Speaker 4>now that we've gone through it and I saw, just

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<v Speaker 4>do it, no matter how good or bad it goes,

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<v Speaker 4>it is an adventure. It is the wildest thing I've

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<v Speaker 4>ever been a part of, from start to finish. The

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<v Speaker 4>balloon getting removed even to this day, like seeing Waynna

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<v Speaker 4>come out was wild? Was it full frontal or above?

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<v Speaker 4>I did both?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you did both?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, But the balloon part was like when it got removed,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, you are a like I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>how a human being is doing what you're doing because

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<v Speaker 4>it was so much bigger than I expected it to be.

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<v Speaker 2>God, And it was like was it like a baby's head?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, one hundred percent, and it like I don't I

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<v Speaker 4>still don't get it, Like I I meant it when

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<v Speaker 4>I said I don't have words, because like it's the

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing was just me probably like standing there like

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<v Speaker 4>I don't understand, and she was just was And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think this is like even a compliment because I

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<v Speaker 4>don't think it's necessary. She was so tough, like there

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<v Speaker 4>was very little like screaming like crying, like it was

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<v Speaker 4>just like she was in it, like this was like

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<v Speaker 4>a this was game day and she was full on

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<v Speaker 4>like I'm going to make this thing happen. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was watching it like in pain, like my for myself.

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<v Speaker 4>So okay, she can now go to where.

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<v Speaker 2>Like because I need to know what the epidural was

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<v Speaker 2>in When they took out the balloon.

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<v Speaker 3>No, and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that it

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<v Speaker 3>should have been no one like really because they came

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<v Speaker 3>in and they were like, okay, you're definitely ready to

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<v Speaker 3>get the balloon out, like I'm just gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you good? And I was like yeah, like I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think it was going to be anything. And then

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<v Speaker 3>my nurse on the shift change was like, you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>get your epidural for the balloon coming out? I was

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<v Speaker 3>like no, but it was fine.

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<v Speaker 2>It was very brief because it was just like whoa, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it just.

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<v Speaker 3>Popped right out.

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<v Speaker 4>No, yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So then I get the epidural and this is at

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<v Speaker 3>five PM, and the epidural goes in like totally fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I like I had a great anesthesiologist. It didn't hurt

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<v Speaker 3>like I thought it would.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you. I was like, why, I'm no offense

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<v Speaker 2>to people who have fears of needles, but you're not

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<v Speaker 2>looking at it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I right when I said, it hurts just as much

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<v Speaker 2>as maybe a botox prick in your forehead, yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Or like a beasting like something like that. Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>really nothing so wild and quick, yes, so quick. But

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<v Speaker 3>the problem was I had a huge blood pressure drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I got it in and then all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>Ben said, I turned like really really white, and I

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<v Speaker 3>looked at the mcg all just know. I was like yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm super lightheaded, and I like thought

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to pass out. And then her blood

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<v Speaker 3>pressure dropped and so we lost her heartbeat for like

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<v Speaker 3>ten minutes. So they like, yeah, they flipped me on

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<v Speaker 3>all fours, So I'm on all fours in my hospital

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<v Speaker 3>gown and like ten doctors come rushing in. It turns

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<v Speaker 3>out this is like very common and not like as

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<v Speaker 3>big of it of an emergency as we thought it was.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was scary.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you getting on all fours and like your

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<v Speaker 2>blood pressure going down sounds normal. Her them not being

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<v Speaker 2>able to find a heartbeat on her for ten minutes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh wow.

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<v Speaker 3>They were getting ready to roll me back for a

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<v Speaker 3>C section.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So they had like a small like her like

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<v Speaker 4>Whinnie's heart rate dropped like they could still find it,

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<v Speaker 4>but it was like severely low. And it was this

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<v Speaker 4>I think this is like a typical dad moment in

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<v Speaker 4>the hospital. So like I when we first just got

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<v Speaker 4>to the hospital, the nurse's head like kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>we were talking to them and they're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, what is a dad's strategy during this

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<v Speaker 4>whole like process, And they said, you know, we see

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<v Speaker 4>it all. We see dads come in rolling their Xbox,

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<v Speaker 4>hook it up through the TV, put their headphones in

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<v Speaker 4>and the nerd kid and never pay attention for like

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<v Speaker 4>the whole time. And I'm like, well that's that's a

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<v Speaker 4>little bunch. And then they're like and then we have

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<v Speaker 4>dads that are like hovering like always like up in

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<v Speaker 4>our business, like never leaving the bedside like and they're

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<v Speaker 4>like that just makes work hard. And so like I

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<v Speaker 4>in my mind was like, okay, I need to be present,

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<v Speaker 4>but not hovering. I want to be present, but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to like be standing at just A's bedside

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<v Speaker 4>the whole time because these people know what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 4>So the epidural goes in and I was sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>front of Jess like just kind of like that's what

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<v Speaker 4>they tell you to do, yeah, like hanging out.

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<v Speaker 2>With her, hold her hands.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it was done, and everybody's okay, everything's good

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<v Speaker 4>and just like just give a few minutes. So she

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<v Speaker 4>lays back in bed and then like some other nurses

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<v Speaker 4>come in and like start like doing some stuff with her.

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<v Speaker 4>So I get up and I walk over to my

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<v Speaker 4>sofa bed and Indiana Basketball was about to come in,

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<v Speaker 4>so I start logging into my peacock account and on

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<v Speaker 4>my iPad and I look up and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 4>like there's ten doctors in the room, and so I

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<v Speaker 4>remember just looking around like I don't understand what's happening.

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<v Speaker 4>And a nurse comes over and sits by me and

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<v Speaker 4>she's like, this is very normal, but like you should

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<v Speaker 4>prepare to get rolled back into like the or. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>what what do you mean? Like this is normal and

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to the or. So by the time it

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<v Speaker 4>happened and it was done, I was just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like not processing it. That was kind of a theme

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<v Speaker 4>for me. I think for the to those two days

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<v Speaker 4>is like I was slow to process exactly what was

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<v Speaker 4>happening when it was happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, But all the nurses said that Ben should teach

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<v Speaker 3>a lesson to h Bins on how to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the delivery room because he was so awesome, Like he

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<v Speaker 3>was the perfect support. That's perfect, I'll imagine. Yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 3>no surprise, but it was the best. But once my

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<v Speaker 3>epidural was in and like I was good, they broke

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<v Speaker 3>my water. Yeah, and I was ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she just like like the heart rate just went

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<v Speaker 2>back up after you like change positions.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so changed positions. She was fine obviously, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>I was okay too. I was just like a little

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<v Speaker 3>shaken up. Yeah, but they just like went for it.

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<v Speaker 4>After that, It's it's a uh I mean, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>people are going to listen to this and be like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that happened to me, or I know somebody happened to

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<v Speaker 4>It's a like almost like tortuous experience because at this

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<v Speaker 4>point Jessica I had now seen probably an hour before

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<v Speaker 4>that like her mother bear coming out like all of

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<v Speaker 4>a sudden, like her mentality changed her, like the way

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<v Speaker 4>she was going through it changed, like she is she

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<v Speaker 4>was becoming a mom in front, like in front.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>And so this like blood pressure drop happens, and all

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<v Speaker 4>of a sudden, like I said, it happens so fast

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<v Speaker 4>that like it kind of feels like an emergency. Probably

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<v Speaker 4>is considered an emergency. So Jessica's on all fours and

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<v Speaker 4>she's wondering what is happening. I don't feel good. My

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<v Speaker 4>blood pressure is low. And they're starting to talk like

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<v Speaker 4>hey Whennie's blood pressure is low? And then so like

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<v Speaker 4>jess starts getting anxious, right like is she okay? She

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<v Speaker 4>starts asking like is whinny okay? Is whinny okay? Is

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<v Speaker 4>whinny okay? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you just like we like you're are you just

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<v Speaker 2>like oh maybe I just want to get the sea

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<v Speaker 2>sections just so I don't have to worry.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. I looked at them and I was like, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it takes to get her out healthy, like do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I looked at my nurse and said that, and

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<v Speaker 3>she was like noted.

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<v Speaker 4>And and then to get this problem fixed, they give

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<v Speaker 4>you a medication to speed up your heart rate. So

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<v Speaker 4>you're anxious about your like baby and her health, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're freaking out, you're scared for the baby. And then

0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:07.120
<v Speaker 4>they give you this medication to speed up your heart rate.

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<v Speaker 4>So then you get more anxious. And now I'm anxious

0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:13.760
<v Speaker 4>because Jess is like medically anxious. She's already anxious, but

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<v Speaker 4>now she's like hyper anxious and like scared. So this

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<v Speaker 4>whole thing feels like a whirlwind. And then it's done

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<v Speaker 4>and everybody leaves and you're just it's just like the

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<v Speaker 4>three of you, you, your nurse, the two of us

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<v Speaker 4>in the nurse in the room again and it's like quiet,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're like, what just happened?

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<v Speaker 2>That's so funny. So my dad had you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>anantasysiologist forre you guys listening, and he has not worked

0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:37.920
<v Speaker 2>on the Once you get to a certain like point

0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:39.720
<v Speaker 2>in your career, you can kind of decide what kind

0:14:39.720 --> 0:14:42.240
<v Speaker 2>of cases you want to take. And he hasn't been

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<v Speaker 2>on the Obie floor and at least a decade, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, like fifteen years, because he says it's the

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<v Speaker 2>most unpredictable place in the entire hospital, and it makes

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<v Speaker 2>him so nervous because every case is just he did

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<v Speaker 2>never know what to expect, and they turn so quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I totally yeah one, and like anything good I

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<v Speaker 3>could have, anyone could be rolled back at any time,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like you just have no idea because it's

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<v Speaker 3>up to the baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is when you think, like how in the

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<v Speaker 2>world did we deliver children over one hundred years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Like how did not even one hundred years ago, but

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy years ago, Like how was this a thing?

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<v Speaker 2>How are we so lucky to live in this like

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<v Speaker 2>seventy year period of this world? Because if you needed

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<v Speaker 2>to see section back in the eighteen hundreds, eh no,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, we.

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<v Speaker 3>Talked about that so much with their nurse, like what

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<v Speaker 3>did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, crazy, so wild? Okay, so now you're

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<v Speaker 2>chill and you got your epidural, they broke your water

0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:55.480
<v Speaker 2>you barely felt that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so now you're just chilling waiting to dilate more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have the potocin drift the whole time too,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm like having contractions. I was having contractions every

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<v Speaker 3>two minutes for like ten hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And you had no idea, no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but at like what time was it? At ten pm,

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<v Speaker 3>my nurse came in and did like a circuit where

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<v Speaker 3>she changed my positions, like the mile circuit, so you

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<v Speaker 3>changed positions, and she was like massaging my pelvis and

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<v Speaker 3>just like getting baby to like move down into my

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<v Speaker 3>pelvis more. And so we did that for like an hour,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I fell asleep and then they checked my

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<v Speaker 3>dilation at eleven and or no, they checked my dilation

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<v Speaker 3>at eleven and I was seven centimeters dilated and the

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<v Speaker 3>nurse could see Winnie's hair, which is crazy. And then

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<v Speaker 3>I fell asleep for an hour and a half, and

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<v Speaker 3>at twelve thirty am on Wednesday, I was ten centimeters

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<v Speaker 3>dilated and so we were ready to push.

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<v Speaker 2>And when they said okay, we're ready to push, what

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<v Speaker 2>were your feelings?

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<v Speaker 3>I was so excited because we've been there for so long,

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<v Speaker 3>just like waiting and like I was being poked and

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<v Speaker 3>prodded and like I'm just so excited. But Ben was

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<v Speaker 3>fast asleep, so the nurse had to wake him up

0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and woke him up and it was like it's time

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<v Speaker 3>to push. And then it was like.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>When I went to sleep, she was four centimeters they'd

0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.920
<v Speaker 4>just broken her water and so they're like, hey, if

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<v Speaker 4>you want to like get some sleep, now's your time.

0:17:32.200 --> 0:17:33.439
<v Speaker 4>And I was like when is this, Like when do

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<v Speaker 4>you think this could happen. They're like it will happen

0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.600
<v Speaker 4>like early morning, Like, yeah, I'm gonna go to sleep,

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:44.040
<v Speaker 4>like if everything's good. She's like, looks like take a nap.

0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:46.919
<v Speaker 4>And so when they woke me up, to're like all right,

0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.040
<v Speaker 4>then it's time to push. I I'll never forget that

0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.280
<v Speaker 4>feeling of like, oh, it's now happening, like we are.

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<v Speaker 4>And I looked at Jess and she has like this

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<v Speaker 4>smile and happy tears and she's like are you ready?

0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.439
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like I'm ready, and we just are like

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<v Speaker 4>I guess we're gonna go through this until we have

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<v Speaker 4>a baby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It's so weird because it's like so crazy for us.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the nurses are like we do this multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times a day.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and it's time.

0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Let's just it's time.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's do it.

0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:18.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:19.399
<v Speaker 3>She was like are you ready to you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it now?

0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:21.120
<v Speaker 2>I was like yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so, Jess and I kind of had a birth

0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.639
<v Speaker 4>plan tentatively where I was going to DJ, like I

0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:36.760
<v Speaker 4>brought a speaker to DJ pushing part, and so there

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<v Speaker 4>was like a like Jess would like go through and

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<v Speaker 4>push and then rest and she'd be like, all right,

0:18:41.480 --> 0:18:43.800
<v Speaker 4>new song, next song, A little I want a little faster,

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<v Speaker 4>a little slower, because I start out with like some

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<v Speaker 4>like real slow, Like I have this playlist on Spotify

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.240
<v Speaker 4>that I made for Jess that we like that she

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<v Speaker 4>can listen to anytime she wants to add songs to

0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:58.719
<v Speaker 4>and so, but it's like lovey and slow, and so

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<v Speaker 4>I started playing that. I was like this is be

0:19:00.200 --> 0:19:02.479
<v Speaker 4>sweet and she's like, no, we got to speed this up.

0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.680
<v Speaker 4>Let's get nineties like pop. And I'm like, okay, nineties pop.

0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.000
<v Speaker 4>So in sync comes on. That works for a little bit,

0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.480
<v Speaker 4>and then we move into like what's going to make

0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.720
<v Speaker 4>people dance on tables? And I'm like, all right, that playlist,

0:19:13.840 --> 0:19:14.560
<v Speaker 4>let me type that in.

0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 3>It's my favorite playlist on Spotify. It's like making dunk

0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.640
<v Speaker 3>people dance on tables or something like that. It's so good.

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.480
<v Speaker 3>But I was it was the middle of the night.

0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.919
<v Speaker 3>I started pushing at one thirty, so I was like

0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.600
<v Speaker 3>falling asleep in between contractions. So I had to have.

0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.840
<v Speaker 2>Like you had been awake for how long, like two days?

0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:37.280
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't slept hardly. I had taken like two two

0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:38.440
<v Speaker 3>hour naps maybe.

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<v Speaker 2>And then what about eating?

0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I hadn't eaten in a long time.

0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:44.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you ate.

0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, you had a casadia.

0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.639
<v Speaker 3>You have a before my epidural.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that was the it had been quite some time.

0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it had been a while. So anyways, been DJ.

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:01.680
<v Speaker 3>I pushed for an hour and a half foremost and

0:20:03.359 --> 0:20:05.960
<v Speaker 3>she came out to Rihanna singing, please don't stop the

0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:09.639
<v Speaker 3>music yep, and all the nurses were laughing because she

0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:10.960
<v Speaker 3>was like wiggling her head.

0:20:11.640 --> 0:20:13.760
<v Speaker 4>You could see her like coming out and she was

0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:16.560
<v Speaker 4>just going like this, no, and then there's like what

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:19.560
<v Speaker 4>is she doing? And she was just like wiggling her

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:20.399
<v Speaker 4>head back and forth.

0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.600
<v Speaker 2>That's hilarious. I love that.

0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and then we I don't know how good of

0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:28.120
<v Speaker 4>a view you'll have, but.

0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:28.840
<v Speaker 2>We've got a great view.

0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:33.480
<v Speaker 4>Winnie came out at what two point fifty two three

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<v Speaker 4>am at seven pounds three ounces, twenty inches long.

0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:44.159
<v Speaker 2>Amazing, so beautiful and so wonderful. And how was your feeling?

0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I feel like both of you guys, you saw heaven.

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Honestly, yes, the nurses told us that it was like

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<v Speaker 3>their favorite post birth moment they've had, because both of

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:57.720
<v Speaker 3>us were just like happy, tears excited, couldn't believe it,

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:02.480
<v Speaker 3>like honestly breathless. She came out and like, obviously we're biased,

0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:04.960
<v Speaker 3>but she has a really really cute face and I

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 3>couldn't believe that that was her face.

0:21:07.560 --> 0:21:09.200
<v Speaker 2>And you were so excited to see her face.

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I was so excited to see her

0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.639
<v Speaker 3>face and she like her lips were all swollen and

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 3>she just looked like the perfect little baby was the best.

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:19.600
<v Speaker 2>It was about to cry.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was crazy. Well, the nurse was really sweet

0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:29.560
<v Speaker 4>to me too, because I was more like interested that

0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.760
<v Speaker 4>I thought I would be, Like we talked about this

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.280
<v Speaker 4>right before, right before. It's funny how things change, Like

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.320
<v Speaker 4>I was more intrigued with what was going on once

0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:42.720
<v Speaker 4>it felt like things were going well, and so the

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:46.080
<v Speaker 4>nurse would like clean Jess up. In between like pushing moments,

0:21:46.320 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 4>and then she'd be like, Ben, you want to come look,

0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:51.000
<v Speaker 4>and so like she was really sweet and like to

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:53.200
<v Speaker 4>Jess and I both like where I you know, she

0:21:53.240 --> 0:21:55.479
<v Speaker 4>would clean her up, we'd get all reset, and then

0:21:55.480 --> 0:21:57.000
<v Speaker 4>she'd be like you should come look, and so like

0:21:57.080 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 4>I got to see the top of Oney's head, which

0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:05.960
<v Speaker 4>was insane to see. And then like as when he

0:22:06.000 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 4>got to come out, but like once she's ready to

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:12.960
<v Speaker 4>come out, like it happens so fast, like they don't

0:22:12.960 --> 0:22:14.800
<v Speaker 4>tell you, like this is going to be the last one.

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:17.639
<v Speaker 4>They're like, you're getting close, Jess, and then all of

0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:21.399
<v Speaker 4>a sudden there's a baby like wailing and they're holding

0:22:21.400 --> 0:22:23.840
<v Speaker 4>her up, and then they just gave her to Jess

0:22:23.880 --> 0:22:27.880
<v Speaker 4>and like they did this like when he was wailing,

0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.480
<v Speaker 4>and as soon as they laid Winny on Jess's chest,

0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.080
<v Speaker 4>she stopped and the two of them just like laid

0:22:35.080 --> 0:22:42.639
<v Speaker 4>there together for an hour and which was incredibly sweet,

0:22:42.760 --> 0:22:46.320
<v Speaker 4>and so you know, they got justs like cleaned up

0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:51.840
<v Speaker 4>and like probably I'll like my favorite moment though, was

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<v Speaker 4>everybody leaves then once like the cord's cut and like

0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Jess is like cleaned up and everything's like.

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.600
<v Speaker 2>The cord cutting was nothing right but nothing.

0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.080
<v Speaker 4>It is tough. It's like thinker than I thought I was.

0:23:05.840 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 4>But then it was just Winnie, jess and I in

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.960
<v Speaker 4>the room, and I like I think jess and I

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:15.240
<v Speaker 4>both had this like massive letdown, Like I didn't realize

0:23:15.280 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 4>how like stressed I was about the whole situation. And

0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:21.639
<v Speaker 4>then obviously Jessica just gave birth. So as soon as

0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:24.399
<v Speaker 4>everything was good and when he was safe and everything

0:23:24.440 --> 0:23:26.879
<v Speaker 4>had been done and the room was quiet, like we

0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:31.000
<v Speaker 4>both just like took this deep breath and we turned

0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:34.760
<v Speaker 4>on some worship music, like real soft worship music, and

0:23:34.800 --> 0:23:39.240
<v Speaker 4>we all three fell asleep like for a good hour

0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 4>and a half, just like as a family, which was

0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 4>like so like it was like a beautifully magical moment

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:53.920
<v Speaker 4>because I think everybody was so tired and like now

0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:58.639
<v Speaker 4>we were going to start this journey is a family together.

0:24:01.280 --> 0:24:04.520
<v Speaker 3>It was really special. It was like a long waiting

0:24:04.680 --> 0:24:09.239
<v Speaker 3>process I feel like my labor was. But it was

0:24:09.240 --> 0:24:09.760
<v Speaker 3>so good.

0:24:11.440 --> 0:24:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Then, Jessica says, when we woke up from the nap,

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.359
<v Speaker 4>she was holding winning and I was like, how you

0:24:16.359 --> 0:24:18.680
<v Speaker 4>do and She's like, I do it again right now

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:21.760
<v Speaker 4>for her, Like I would go all through this again.

0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.840
<v Speaker 4>And I was like, that's insane because I assuming you will.

0:24:26.320 --> 0:24:29.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I assuming God it is the plan. Yeah, but

0:24:30.200 --> 0:24:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I would have like I would have labored for however

0:24:33.359 --> 0:24:35.399
<v Speaker 3>long I needed to to have her. She's like the

0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:39.480
<v Speaker 3>most perfect thing, and she's such a good baby and

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:43.239
<v Speaker 3>she's a week old today, so we're settled in as

0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:45.640
<v Speaker 3>a family and it's just been like the best thing ever.

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So sweet. Guys. So when when you were like that

0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:54.560
<v Speaker 2>whole last about like you felt good right, like you

0:24:54.600 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 2>weren't you were comfortable?

0:24:57.000 --> 0:24:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I mean it's crazy if you get n up

0:24:59.800 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 3>dar all, Like, it's not painful, it's just the pressure.

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.000
<v Speaker 3>So like, especially when she was about to come out,

0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I was like I have to keep pushing because the

0:25:08.040 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 3>pressure is like so intense. But it wasn't like painful.

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 3>And then they sit you up when you still have

0:25:13.400 --> 0:25:15.680
<v Speaker 3>your epidural too, so it was awesome.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:19.679
<v Speaker 2>M totally. And then how was how did your body feel?

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I think like immediately you're just like relieved. You don't

0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 2>like you actually like don't even like feel your body

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Like is that kind of a weird description of it.

0:25:28.080 --> 0:25:29.480
<v Speaker 3>No, that's like a perfect description.

0:25:29.880 --> 0:25:30.679
<v Speaker 4>It's I mean.

0:25:30.680 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Also probably because we have the epidurals. Yes, but no

0:25:35.640 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 2>baby coming out anymore. And then afterward, you know, it

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:43.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of hits next morning. How did how are you

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 2>feeling physically right now?

0:25:44.960 --> 0:25:48.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, I had three tears, all in different places. In

0:25:48.680 --> 0:25:50.960
<v Speaker 3>one of them, I mean, is it Teami.

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.359
<v Speaker 2>No, it's not team I tell us all because I

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:56.400
<v Speaker 2>couldn't walk for like three to four weeks after Dawson.

0:25:56.520 --> 0:25:59.280
<v Speaker 2>But after Hayden, I danced the next day. It was weird.

0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:03.200
<v Speaker 3>It's insane, but yeah, the nurses said that the second baby,

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:05.360
<v Speaker 3>they call it a stop and drop when the when

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.159
<v Speaker 3>people are in labor, it's like so fast and easy.

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>It was so it was crazy. The second one was

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 2>so crazy. I just couldn't believe. I was like, it's

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>going to hit me right when I'm dancing in the

0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:18.439
<v Speaker 2>kitchen the day after, and it never really hit. It

0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>was weird, but guess because you tear so much less

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.120
<v Speaker 2>the second time. Anyway, How was how was the tear?

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.399
<v Speaker 3>Well, I had a second degree tear and then I

0:26:24.480 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 3>had a tear on my urethra, which is like really tough.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.680
<v Speaker 3>So I had a catheter for another twenty four hours

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 3>in the hospital, and that one hurt really that tears.

0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 3>It's still a little tough. I'm sitting on my like

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:43.760
<v Speaker 3>inflatable doughnut right now. Yeah, but overall, I feel better

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:45.440
<v Speaker 3>than I thought I would. I thought I would feel

0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:46.960
<v Speaker 3>like I kind of got like hit by a car,

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it hasn't been that bad.

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 2>Good.

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.480
<v Speaker 4>The crazy thing to me is, I don't know if

0:26:52.520 --> 0:26:55.600
<v Speaker 4>this is like a thing, but as so, like the

0:26:55.680 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 4>pushing part is incredible, and it because of the time

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:02.800
<v Speaker 4>of day and because of how long it was, like

0:27:02.880 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 4>Jess would kind of fall asleep in between pushing because

0:27:06.720 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 4>she was so tired and she was working so hard

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 4>at it. But as like when he moved down, like

0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 4>just the amount of like justice belly was like diappringing,

0:27:18.840 --> 0:27:21.399
<v Speaker 4>like in the midst of the pushing, Jess and I

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:22.879
<v Speaker 4>looked at her belly and we're like, you have a

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 4>belly button again. It's so weird to that or they

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 4>just yeah it like it was that was crazy to me. Yeah,

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:33.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like that that part was wild, just

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 4>how quickly the belly like started to go away. And

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:40.560
<v Speaker 4>now it's crazy to me that I kind of like

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.920
<v Speaker 4>right now, like her parents are out here that week

0:27:44.000 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 4>my parents are out here right now and we're doing

0:27:46.440 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 4>some work on the house. So like the mornings and

0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:53.399
<v Speaker 4>the evenings are my time with Winnie. And during the

0:27:53.480 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 4>day like she just kind of gets passed around and

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 4>then Jess like takes her for a long time and everything.

0:27:58.040 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 4>But when he will lay on my chest and her

0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:04.600
<v Speaker 4>head will be like on my shoulder and her feet

0:28:04.720 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 4>will be like at my groin, and every time, like

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, how did you fit fit in my like

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.720
<v Speaker 4>in my wife, like just as a foot shorter than me,

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.960
<v Speaker 4>and like somehow you were in there and it doesn't

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 4>like that doesn't like the anatomia, that doesn't make sense.

0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so tell me about the day after, because that's

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:43.880
<v Speaker 2>a day you know, the hospital has a schedule for you.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.280
<v Speaker 2>Then you have the newborn shoot, and then the nurses

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:50.080
<v Speaker 2>are waking you up every hour to go pee or

0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 2>every twenty minutes.

0:28:51.920 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>It was insane. Yeah, I really felt like every twenty

0:28:55.040 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 3>minutes someone was in there like doing something to me

0:28:57.880 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>or to Winny. And because I tour where I did,

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 3>like they had to check my catheter bag and they

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:06.960
<v Speaker 3>had to like then they would do the fundel massage

0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.120
<v Speaker 3>and like see how my bleeding was and then they

0:29:09.160 --> 0:29:12.160
<v Speaker 3>would check on Winnie and it was like the craziest

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.200
<v Speaker 3>day ever. So we had the option to spend a

0:29:14.240 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 3>second night, like for recovery, so I took that. So

0:29:18.560 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 3>I spent the night Thursday night too, just to like

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.239
<v Speaker 3>be able to try and sleep a little bit. And

0:29:24.560 --> 0:29:27.520
<v Speaker 3>it was nice because I kept you have so many questions,

0:29:27.560 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 3>like because I decided to breastfeed, and that's really hard

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 3>too because you don't have your milk yet, and so

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 3>like having people there to support was really helpful. But

0:29:37.800 --> 0:29:39.840
<v Speaker 3>those two days in the hospital felt like the biggest

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:43.400
<v Speaker 3>whirlwind because you're getting so much info. You're like figuring

0:29:43.400 --> 0:29:47.360
<v Speaker 3>out your body and like how to handle that, and there's.

0:29:47.160 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>Just feels like a business day kind of Yes, I'm

0:29:49.720 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 2>like I have.

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 3>So many meetings today, this is crazy.

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>You know you have some forms to fill out. Yeah,

0:29:56.320 --> 0:30:00.160
<v Speaker 2>it was wild, including the birth certificate. So how did

0:30:00.200 --> 0:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>you guys come up with the name Winnie? Winnie Higgins

0:30:02.480 --> 0:30:03.880
<v Speaker 2>tell us about when you came up with this name.

0:30:03.920 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I know you had it for a while, but you

0:30:05.320 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't I didn't tell us.

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 4>We have a list of boy names that are pretty extensive,

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 4>and that has been hard for us to narrow down

0:30:13.720 --> 0:30:18.960
<v Speaker 4>because we like so many and like, as soon as

0:30:19.360 --> 0:30:23.480
<v Speaker 4>just found out she was pregnant, she started like doing

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.280
<v Speaker 4>the like notes on her phone with the names that

0:30:26.280 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 4>we would hear, and girl names were really hard for us.

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.840
<v Speaker 4>There wasn't many we agreed upon. And then there was

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:38.480
<v Speaker 4>a moment where we were sitting on the couch in

0:30:38.520 --> 0:30:42.360
<v Speaker 4>our living room kind of like going through names. And

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:46.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't exactly remember how Winona got brought up.

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.880
<v Speaker 2>So it wasn't a why no writer movie no.

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 4>Because I'm from Winona Lake, Indiana, So somehow we came

0:30:54.760 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 4>up with Winonah is such a beautiful name. And then

0:30:57.200 --> 0:31:01.080
<v Speaker 4>we both are like, we like that name. It I

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:02.800
<v Speaker 4>mean in a lot of ways as an ode to

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:05.160
<v Speaker 4>like where I'm from in a place that matters a

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:09.120
<v Speaker 4>lot to me. But also it's it's not that in

0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 4>the sense that we just really liked the name. It

0:31:11.360 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 4>means first daughter, which we didn't know when we picked

0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:20.000
<v Speaker 4>it out. Yeah, and like the symbolism of the name

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:24.160
<v Speaker 4>why Noona is really beautiful. It has like it means patient,

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:29.040
<v Speaker 4>it means resilient, it means kind, it means others focused,

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.000
<v Speaker 4>and so like there was just a lot of things

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 4>going well for the name, why Noona and who we

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:39.640
<v Speaker 4>dream of her being? But we both it was like

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 4>the only girl name we both liked. Like I was

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:45.040
<v Speaker 4>really into names that had like cute little nicknames like

0:31:45.560 --> 0:31:49.400
<v Speaker 4>Gigi or like viv or something like that, and so

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 4>with one Nona, I was like, oh, my gosh, we

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.040
<v Speaker 4>can call her Winny like yes, and she has a

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.840
<v Speaker 4>Winnie the Pooh theme nursery that was already in place

0:31:56.880 --> 0:32:01.240
<v Speaker 4>before we knew the name, So yeah, so that works

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 4>out really great. We don't want to go overboard on

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 4>Winnie the Pooh, like we love Winning the Pooh in

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 4>this household a lot, but we don't want it to

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:10.560
<v Speaker 4>be like, oh, we named you after Winning the Poop

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:14.840
<v Speaker 4>because we didn't. But she does have like a Winnie

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:18.280
<v Speaker 4>the Pooh theme nursery, and we just think it's such

0:32:18.320 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 4>a cute little name.

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 2>So that is so cute. What is the thing about

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 2>home life with money that is most surprising to you?

0:32:30.680 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 3>First of all, our dog is obsessed with her.

0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.400
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Oh, you guys were so stressed, And I told

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you I was like, our dog hates everyone except we

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>brought our kids home, and she she's like, oh, hey,

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:45.360
<v Speaker 2>I was up.

0:32:45.800 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, he's he is obsessed with her in the sweetest way,

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:51.800
<v Speaker 4>Like he is sweeter to her than he's ever been

0:32:51.800 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 4>to any other human in the world.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 2>So special.

0:32:54.640 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 4>She lays by her in the morning, he licks like

0:32:58.240 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 4>off her shirt like if he can get up to her.

0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 4>Don't try to let him that close. But like if

0:33:02.520 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 4>she has like a spit towel, like he'll like care

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 4>for it. He's incredible with her. So if like I'm

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 4>holding her on the couch, he always curls up right

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 4>next to us.

0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>So sweet. I'm so happy to hear this.

0:33:19.400 --> 0:33:21.360
<v Speaker 4>That was the first time. I think there was just

0:33:21.360 --> 0:33:25.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot going on. We got home from the hospital

0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:29.320
<v Speaker 4>and Jess pretty much immediately went into nurse and I

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:32.959
<v Speaker 4>was like kind of unpacking some stuff, and I walked

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.840
<v Speaker 4>into the room and Waylon was laying at Jess's feet

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 4>while when they were in the rocking chair nursing, and

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.520
<v Speaker 4>I lost it, like, like I've never.

0:33:43.320 --> 0:33:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Seen him kig like that before.

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>That's beautiful and it's a relief.

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:54.400
<v Speaker 4>It's a relief. I prayed like hands and niece straight

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 4>to Jesus for ten months, even before we knew we

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:03.080
<v Speaker 4>were pregnant, Like God like, what can we do to

0:34:03.160 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 4>help this dog be the dog I know he is,

0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Like I love him so much and I know he's

0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.759
<v Speaker 4>going to be a great big brother, but like what

0:34:10.840 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 4>can we do? And prayers were answered like immediately.

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>So and they have been amazing.

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's been amazing, Like we're so grateful for that.

0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.400
<v Speaker 2>Did you have anything that you did specifically aid?

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 4>We did a lot of training beforehand, Like we did

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.879
<v Speaker 4>we hired a trainer to do like baby training. We

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:32.959
<v Speaker 4>would carry around like a baby doll around the house.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 4>We'd lay a baby doll in its crib. We did

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 4>a lot of like positive reinforcement for like how he

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 4>would react around the baby doll. And then we sent

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:45.080
<v Speaker 4>home some of her items after birth with my parents

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 4>because they were watching him and he like had those.

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.239
<v Speaker 4>And then when we got home, we put up a

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:52.879
<v Speaker 4>baby gate, put Winnie in a like in our car

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 4>seat behind the baby gate wheel on the other side

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.200
<v Speaker 4>so he could like smell her, and then we just

0:34:57.239 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 4>like gave him a bunch of treats during it, like

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.480
<v Speaker 4>tell him he was great, and after that he was

0:35:04.560 --> 0:35:10.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of like awesome. And Jess has been in like

0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.800
<v Speaker 4>an incredible mother, like it's wild. She knows this baby

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.279
<v Speaker 4>so well. She knows how what when he's thinking, when

0:35:17.280 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 4>he's wanting her, and when he are like bonded in

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<v Speaker 4>the most beautiful way. And so we've kind of tag

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<v Speaker 4>teamed it right now, where like Wayland's life hasn't changed

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<v Speaker 4>that much. He still gets out on walks, my parents

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:32.480
<v Speaker 4>are here to help with that, and then like when

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:34.600
<v Speaker 4>her parents were out here, like he would have some

0:35:34.680 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 4>fun days like outside of the house, and so like

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<v Speaker 4>his life hasn't changed that much, which I also think

0:35:39.600 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 4>has been a big deal. So he's not like jealous

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<v Speaker 4>or like this sucks, like what's happening. Yeah, So we

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<v Speaker 4>just kind of tag teamed it the best we can

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<v Speaker 4>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>My final question for you, amongst so many more that

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<v Speaker 2>will come another podcast, and Ben, I feel like we

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<v Speaker 2>probably need another one, just as like a follow up

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.279
<v Speaker 2>for all the other questions I didn't ask. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>a betting question for you, guys. How have you changed

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<v Speaker 2>in the past week and a half.

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<v Speaker 4>If I'm honest with you. Jess and I just talked

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<v Speaker 4>about this last night, and I want to try. I've

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<v Speaker 4>been thinking a lot about this because I want to

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<v Speaker 4>be as honest to Dad's as possible. There is a

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<v Speaker 4>biological connection I think that mothers have with their babies.

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:25.919
<v Speaker 4>Obviously they're growing inside of them, you feel the move,

0:36:26.600 --> 0:36:30.400
<v Speaker 4>you're giving birth to them, right, and then you're you know,

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<v Speaker 4>responsible for a lot of the things that keep this

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<v Speaker 4>baby alive. I was more worried about Jessica than I

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<v Speaker 4>was anything else for a period of time when we're

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<v Speaker 4>in the hospital. Oh yeah, I'm getting to you, don't

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<v Speaker 4>be jealous. And then once Winona came out, I just

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<v Speaker 4>looked over and I saw my family, and then there

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 4>was like more I'd say, like there was this like

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<v Speaker 4>peace because of the situation. There was a love because

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:08.799
<v Speaker 4>of you know, it being my child, but there was

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<v Speaker 4>more of an immediate feeling of like protection, like like

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm on guard a little bit now, and then every

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<v Speaker 4>day gets to where I'm more just like like I

0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 4>worry more. I worry more about why I know that

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<v Speaker 4>tonight than I did the first night we were home.

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<v Speaker 4>Like there's well, put there's an everyday kind of like new.

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<v Speaker 3>Moment.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a new thing that makes me feel more connected

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<v Speaker 4>to her. But I won't say, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to lie and say like the moment she came out

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<v Speaker 4>of the womb, all of a sudden, this like overwhelming

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:51.440
<v Speaker 4>sense of like connection existed. It was more of a

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<v Speaker 4>like a protection responsibility and a piece that everybody was good.

0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 4>And then every day I think there's a new like

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:02.440
<v Speaker 4>something is building and I can feel.

0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 2>That perfectly, perfectly put. Jared would agree with you, yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think it is. I think it's I don't know,

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 4>everybody probably has a different experience, but when you're a

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:17.560
<v Speaker 4>mom like her and Winona, we're together for nine months

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:24.600
<v Speaker 4>like without me, and now I'm building this relationship with

0:38:24.800 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>this girl that you know is in the world. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'd say that's how i'd explain it. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if that's perfect. I don't know if that summaris perfect

0:38:34.680 --> 0:38:38.520
<v Speaker 4>summarizes everything. But if I want to be honest, like

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<v Speaker 4>if I have dads who are like I didn't feel

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<v Speaker 4>anything for like two months, and I feel guilty about it,

0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.400
<v Speaker 4>and I'm like, now that I'm I'm in it, I'm like,

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 4>I don't think you should feel guilty about it. I

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:51.080
<v Speaker 4>don't know anybody in my life that's like, gosh, dang it,

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 4>I really wish we never had kids. I know, but

0:38:54.400 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 4>I do know people that are like I don't necessarily

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<v Speaker 4>feel like I thought I did in the first month.

0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm somewhere in the middle of that. Yep, you don't

0:39:00.960 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 4>want to force it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's something that needs to be talked about

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<v Speaker 2>more because then it leads to more guys feeling so guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't think Gil is up. I don't think

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:14.320
<v Speaker 4>Gil and shame about your reaction? Is is anything helpful?

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.520
<v Speaker 4>I think it's a natural like progression to this like

0:39:18.000 --> 0:39:25.479
<v Speaker 4>beautiful place. But goodness, it's beautiful. It's yeah, I'm looking

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.919
<v Speaker 4>at her. I mean it's beautiful, like it's crazy, it's

0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 4>it's something special. I do. Before we leave, want to

0:39:32.239 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 4>give a shout to Rose. She's a Rose Baby, which

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:39.040
<v Speaker 4>if you're from Denver, you know, it's like the baby

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<v Speaker 4>hospital here in Denver. And they were outstanding, like outstanding

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:49.880
<v Speaker 4>at every level, at every turn with anything going on.

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<v Speaker 4>They cared for Jess. Well they cared for why no, no, well,

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:58.799
<v Speaker 4>I think they cared about me, but I was more

0:39:58.920 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 4>just kind of hanging but like I would, just I

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<v Speaker 4>want to give them a shout out because they really

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:05.759
<v Speaker 4>did do an incredible job.

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<v Speaker 3>Jess, how do you feel differently the like I'm out

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<v Speaker 3>of love I have for her. Like Ben said, like

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<v Speaker 3>I do think there's like more of an adjustment period

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 3>for the dad, but like I have this like insane

0:40:20.120 --> 0:40:23.040
<v Speaker 3>protection over her that like my body will like shake

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:25.879
<v Speaker 3>if she's crying and I'm not in the room, Like.

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<v Speaker 2>That is something that you guys will you will feel

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<v Speaker 2>it more and moarm I think when she starts becoming

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more awake to the world and like

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.920
<v Speaker 2>people will say, oh, you have to let her cry

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:41.800
<v Speaker 2>for a little while, you don't like and the mom

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:45.760
<v Speaker 2>is like the sound like I can, no, cannot, cannot,

0:40:45.840 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 2>And then the dad doesn't hit them the same no.

0:40:49.120 --> 0:40:51.479
<v Speaker 3>And it's like I've I've tried to explain it to Ben,

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 3>like it's not that I'm it's not an anxiety. It's

0:40:56.239 --> 0:40:58.319
<v Speaker 3>just like a like I can make this better, like

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<v Speaker 3>let me have her exactly.

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:04.760
<v Speaker 2>It feels controlling maybe on the outside, but you're like, no, no,

0:41:04.640 --> 0:41:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly. I don't know how to describe it.

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:08.200
<v Speaker 2>I know exactly how to hold.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yes exactly, and it does feel controlling, and I'm like

0:41:10.400 --> 0:41:12.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be that mom that's like a

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:16.040
<v Speaker 3>helicopter mom, but like I just I feel like I

0:41:16.120 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 3>know exactly what she needs. And I've never felt like

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 3>I have all the answers before, but I feel like

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 3>with her, I do have all the answers, which is weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the way you put that. That's beautiful.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're a weekend, so like you know, like there's

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 4>a lot of like not a long way to go. Yeah, so,

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:41.080
<v Speaker 4>but like so far, it's it's I mean, I've known

0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.680
<v Speaker 4>Jessica for a long time. It is there is a change,

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 4>and in the best of ways, like she's still Jessica,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.959
<v Speaker 4>the one I fell in love with, and she still

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:54.439
<v Speaker 4>has all the qualities that I need before, but there's

0:41:54.480 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 4>like an additional like sensibility, a different an additional like

0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 4>like familiarity of life, and like a confidence that I've

0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 4>never seen her have confidence in before. Like there's a

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 4>confidence with my Nona that is different and it's beautiful.

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 4>It's just it's wild to see. And it happened kind

0:42:23.120 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 4>of right away, like I could tell, like right as

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.759
<v Speaker 4>soon as Winona went on her chest when she came out,

0:42:27.800 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 4>I like, I, like I said, I could see something

0:42:30.719 --> 0:42:32.240
<v Speaker 4>changing fierce.

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<v Speaker 3>Jess Yeah became I became a mom, very real quick.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so cute. I love it so much, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't wait to hear more and more about your

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<v Speaker 2>experiences and all the other details that you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that you forgot. And we're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>you probably been next week, back next week and Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>we will talk to you soon and uh text us

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<v Speaker 2>if you need any advice or any recommendations. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we love talking about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much, and thank you for letting me

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<v Speaker 3>do the whole timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope that was okay, but it was delightful, true joy.

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