1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. Today is 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: the most exciting episode we've ever had because it is 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 2: Ben and Jess's baby story. They just got on. It's 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 2: the first time I've seen Ben for twelve days. But 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: I said, it feels like eternity because there's been so 8 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 2: much that has happened in his life since. And I 9 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 2: also feel like you guys are celebrities right now because 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 2: because like it's like, do I even know you anymore? 11 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Is there like a whole other perse your tool are people? Okay? Well, 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: birth stories are my absolute favorite. I want every single 13 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: detail of it. But first, how are you doing well? 14 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: First of all, I knew that you would want every detail, 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 3: so I literally journaled timestamps. 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 4: She did, and we talked about it in the hospital. 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 4: She goes, It's gonna be so great to talk about 18 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 4: this with Ashley because I have everything timestamp Yes. 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 2: Like why do I love birth stories with so much detail? 20 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 3: I think because they're all so different, and like I 21 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 3: want to tell mine now like I want everyone else. 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: You know, you get it, right, I totally get it. 23 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: It Also is just like such a big accomplishment that 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: you like want everyone to know what you've done. 25 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I think that there's definitely because 26 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 2: there's a uniqueness to every single one. 27 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly what we're doing. 28 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: Everyone is just like you're right. Everyone is like a 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 2: rocky story. Well I don't know if I called mine 30 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,479 Speaker 2: a rocky stores. I was like, it's easy, but okay, ready, 31 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: let's go. 32 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, we checked into the hospital Monday night at 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 3: seven thirty. 34 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 4: Ish, I'll add because we had a plan and the 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 4: hospital had us at a check in time. We did 36 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: something I would recommend to every couple that is able 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: that is kind of planning an induction. We went to 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: a great dinner together before we went to the hospital, 39 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 4: so so cute. We have like a little date night. 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 4: And it was weird because I was like, when we 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 4: leave here, we're pulling up to a hospital to have 42 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 4: a baby. So that's how we start our evening. 43 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: And then yeah, and we checked in Monday, Monday night. 44 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: Monday night, and I obviously I wasn't in active labor. 45 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: I was like barely dilated. So their goal overnight was 46 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: to get me dilated. We knew that she was head 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 3: down and so I just like got all checked out, 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: and then they started to give me sidotech to get 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 3: dilated at like eight thirty that night, so I got 50 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: that every four hours, and I started to have contractions 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 3: at like nine thirty, but there wasn't any pattern to 52 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 3: them or anything like that. So then they kept trying 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: to put like the balloon in to dilate my cervix faster. 54 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 2: Did you have the epidurla with the balloon in? No? 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 4: Why not? 56 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: I told you. My nurse told me. She was like, 57 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: you can do it without an epidural, because because I 58 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 3: wasn't dilated at all, she was like, if you get up, 59 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: a girl you like can't get up for who knows 60 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: how long. And I'm actually glad I didn't because I 61 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 3: end up laboring for thirty six hours. So I was 62 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: happy to be able to get up and stuff. 63 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm just this is not my story obviously, so 64 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 4: I'm just going to chime in with my thoughts a 65 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: little bit during this. 66 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, we need the chime in. 67 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, We're gonna put a balloon in to help the dilation. 68 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 4: I'm like, Oh, that doesn't sound that aggressive. Okay, just 69 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: remember that thought. Just remember that thought, as she continues. 70 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 3: So they try to put it in at twelve am, 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 3: and I wasn't ready for it, but I did get 72 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: pain management in my IV throughout. I wasn't like totally 73 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 3: toughing it out because it was really aggressive. And then 74 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: they tried to get at one forty five, but I 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: still wasn't dilated. And then at four am they were 76 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 3: finally able to get it in. So I'd had like 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 3: three doses of the side attech by then, So we've 78 00:03:58,480 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: got the balloon in. 79 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: How many centimeters were you? 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 3: I was only one to get the Holy moly, girl, 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 3: I know. So then I got another side of TECK 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: at eight fifteen to get even more dilated. And then 83 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: at like around ten am, they tried to get the 84 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 3: balloon out because it had been in there for six 85 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: hours and it wasn't ready. And then they tried to 86 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 3: get at one forty five and they only got half 87 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 3: of it out, so then I still had like another 88 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: half in because it makes like a sandwich around your cervix, 89 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: so the other half was still in and so we 90 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 3: were basically just like waiting all day. 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: What did it feel like? 92 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 3: Just like a lot of pressure, okay, And like I 93 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: was still getting up and going to the bathroom and stuff, 94 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 3: and it just felt like it just felt yeah, pressure 95 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 3: and like there was something stuck up my body, which 96 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 3: there was. 97 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: Did you feel like with the contractions intense at this point? 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 3: They weren't. It was more like cramping contractions. It wasn't 99 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 3: like active, active labor. Okay, it really wasn't that bad. 100 00:04:58,600 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 3: We were just sitting around. 101 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: I know why you're asking me. I have no idea 102 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 4: you were in time. 103 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 2: I see the same thing. 104 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: I know. 105 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, it wasn't that bad, right, yeah, or like 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: that part was bad, right. 107 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: Such a blur. But then at four they got the 108 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: balloon out and I was four cin ameters dilated and 109 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: they could feel her head, and then at four point 110 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 3: thirty I started to have like the craziest contraction. So 111 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 3: four thirty PM on Tuesday. 112 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 2: Right, so you are already like been in bed for 113 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: almost two full days. 114 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 3: Now almost one? Yeah, one full day? 115 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah it was Monday, Okay, so never Tuesday at 116 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: a pm? Okay, yeah, yes almost for us. 117 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So that Tuesday afternoon, we were just like sitting 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: talking to my parents, and all of a sudden I 119 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: was getting like the worst pain in contractions, ever, and 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: so we called in the nurse to get my epidural started. 121 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: And so that's this is where the action happens. It's 122 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 3: been kind of bowing up to this point. 123 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because is Ben's caption. I wasn't sure if 124 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 2: it was all about just the birth of his daughter 125 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: being like the craziest adventure, or whether there was an 126 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 2: adventure to the birth. 127 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 4: There was an adventure, I'd say, no matter what, Like 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 4: now that we've gone through it and I saw, just 129 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 4: do it, no matter how good or bad it goes, 130 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 4: it is an adventure. It is the wildest thing I've 131 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 4: ever been a part of, from start to finish. The 132 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 4: balloon getting removed even to this day, like seeing Waynna 133 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: come out was wild? Was it full frontal or above? 134 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:42,559 Speaker 4: I did both? 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: Oh, you did both? 136 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 4: Okay, But the balloon part was like when it got removed, 137 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 4: I was like, you are a like I don't know 138 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: how a human being is doing what you're doing because 139 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: it was so much bigger than I expected it to be. 140 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 2: God, And it was like was it like a baby's head? 141 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent, and it like I don't I 142 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 4: still don't get it, Like I I meant it when 143 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 4: I said I don't have words, because like it's the 144 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: whole thing was just me probably like standing there like 145 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 4: I don't understand, and she was just was And I 146 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: don't think this is like even a compliment because I 147 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 4: don't think it's necessary. She was so tough, like there 148 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: was very little like screaming like crying, like it was 149 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: just like she was in it, like this was like 150 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 4: a this was game day and she was full on 151 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: like I'm going to make this thing happen. Yeah, and 152 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: I was watching it like in pain, like my for myself. 153 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 4: So okay, she can now go to where. 154 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: Like because I need to know what the epidural was 155 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 2: in When they took out the balloon. 156 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: No, and I didn't realize. I didn't realize that it 157 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: should have been no one like really because they came 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: in and they were like, okay, you're definitely ready to 159 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 3: get the balloon out, like I'm just gonna do it. 160 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 3: Are you good? And I was like yeah, like I 161 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: didn't think it was going to be anything. And then 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 3: my nurse on the shift change was like, you didn't 163 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: get your epidural for the balloon coming out? I was 164 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: like no, but it was fine. 165 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: It was very brief because it was just like whoa, yeah, 166 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: it just. 167 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 3: Popped right out. 168 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 4: No, yeah, okay, okay. 169 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: So then I get the epidural and this is at 170 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 3: five PM, and the epidural goes in like totally fine. 171 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: I like I had a great anesthesiologist. It didn't hurt 172 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 3: like I thought it would. 173 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: I told you. I was like, why, I'm no offense 174 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: to people who have fears of needles, but you're not 175 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: looking at it. 176 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 3: No, I was. 177 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: I right when I said, it hurts just as much 178 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: as maybe a botox prick in your forehead, yes. 179 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: Or like a beasting like something like that. Like it's 180 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 3: really nothing so wild and quick, yes, so quick. But 181 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 3: the problem was I had a huge blood pressure drop. 182 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: Like I got it in and then all of a sudden, 183 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 3: Ben said, I turned like really really white, and I 184 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: looked at the mcg all just know. I was like yeah, 185 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm super lightheaded, and I like thought 186 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: I was going to pass out. And then her blood 187 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 3: pressure dropped and so we lost her heartbeat for like 188 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 3: ten minutes. So they like, yeah, they flipped me on 189 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 3: all fours, So I'm on all fours in my hospital 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 3: gown and like ten doctors come rushing in. It turns 191 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 3: out this is like very common and not like as 192 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 3: big of it of an emergency as we thought it was. 193 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 3: But it was scary. 194 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: I think you getting on all fours and like your 195 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 2: blood pressure going down sounds normal. Her them not being 196 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: able to find a heartbeat on her for ten minutes, yeah, 197 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 2: oh wow. 198 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: They were getting ready to roll me back for a 199 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: C section. 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 201 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. So they had like a small like her like 202 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 4: Whinnie's heart rate dropped like they could still find it, 203 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 4: but it was like severely low. And it was this 204 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: I think this is like a typical dad moment in 205 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 4: the hospital. So like I when we first just got 206 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 4: to the hospital, the nurse's head like kind of like 207 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 4: we were talking to them and they're like, you know, 208 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 4: I was like, what is a dad's strategy during this 209 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: whole like process, And they said, you know, we see 210 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 4: it all. We see dads come in rolling their Xbox, 211 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 4: hook it up through the TV, put their headphones in 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 4: and the nerd kid and never pay attention for like 213 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: the whole time. And I'm like, well that's that's a 214 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: little bunch. And then they're like and then we have 215 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 4: dads that are like hovering like always like up in 216 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 4: our business, like never leaving the bedside like and they're 217 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 4: like that just makes work hard. And so like I 218 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 4: in my mind was like, okay, I need to be present, 219 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 4: but not hovering. I want to be present, but I 220 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 4: don't want to like be standing at just A's bedside 221 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 4: the whole time because these people know what they're doing. 222 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 4: So the epidural goes in and I was sitting in 223 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 4: front of Jess like just kind of like that's what 224 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 4: they tell you to do, yeah, like hanging out. 225 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: With her, hold her hands. 226 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was done, and everybody's okay, everything's good 227 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 4: and just like just give a few minutes. So she 228 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 4: lays back in bed and then like some other nurses 229 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 4: come in and like start like doing some stuff with her. 230 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 4: So I get up and I walk over to my 231 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 4: sofa bed and Indiana Basketball was about to come in, 232 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: so I start logging into my peacock account and on 233 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 4: my iPad and I look up and all of a sudden, 234 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 4: like there's ten doctors in the room, and so I 235 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: remember just looking around like I don't understand what's happening. 236 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: And a nurse comes over and sits by me and 237 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 4: she's like, this is very normal, but like you should 238 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 4: prepare to get rolled back into like the or. I'm like, 239 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: what what do you mean? Like this is normal and 240 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: we're going to the or. So by the time it 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 4: happened and it was done, I was just kind of 242 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 4: like not processing it. That was kind of a theme 243 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: for me. I think for the to those two days 244 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 4: is like I was slow to process exactly what was 245 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 4: happening when it was happening. 246 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 3: Okay, But all the nurses said that Ben should teach 247 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 3: a lesson to h Bins on how to be in 248 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 3: the delivery room because he was so awesome, Like he 249 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 3: was the perfect support. That's perfect, I'll imagine. Yeah, I know, 250 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: no surprise, but it was the best. But once my 251 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 3: epidural was in and like I was good, they broke 252 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: my water. Yeah, and I was ninety percent. 253 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: Like she just like like the heart rate just went 254 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 2: back up after you like change positions. 255 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: Yes, so changed positions. She was fine obviously, yeah, and 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 3: I was okay too. I was just like a little 257 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 3: shaken up. Yeah, but they just like went for it. 258 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: After that, It's it's a uh I mean, I'm sure 259 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: people are going to listen to this and be like, oh, yeah, 260 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 4: that happened to me, or I know somebody happened to 261 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 4: It's a like almost like tortuous experience because at this 262 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 4: point Jessica I had now seen probably an hour before 263 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 4: that like her mother bear coming out like all of 264 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 4: a sudden, like her mentality changed her, like the way 265 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: she was going through it changed, like she is she 266 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 4: was becoming a mom in front, like in front. 267 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 3: Of my eyes. 268 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 4: And so this like blood pressure drop happens, and all 269 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 4: of a sudden, like I said, it happens so fast 270 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 4: that like it kind of feels like an emergency. Probably 271 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 4: is considered an emergency. So Jessica's on all fours and 272 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: she's wondering what is happening. I don't feel good. My 273 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 4: blood pressure is low. And they're starting to talk like 274 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 4: hey Whennie's blood pressure is low? And then so like 275 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 4: jess starts getting anxious, right like is she okay? She 276 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 4: starts asking like is whinny okay? Is whinny okay? Is 277 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 4: whinny okay? Yeah? 278 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 2: Are you just like we like you're are you just 279 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 2: like oh maybe I just want to get the sea 280 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: sections just so I don't have to worry. 281 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: Yes. I looked at them and I was like, whatever 282 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: it takes to get her out healthy, like do it. 283 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 3: Like I looked at my nurse and said that, and 284 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: she was like noted. 285 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: And and then to get this problem fixed, they give 286 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 4: you a medication to speed up your heart rate. So 287 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 4: you're anxious about your like baby and her health, like 288 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 4: you're freaking out, you're scared for the baby. And then 289 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: they give you this medication to speed up your heart rate. 290 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: So then you get more anxious. And now I'm anxious 291 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: because Jess is like medically anxious. She's already anxious, but 292 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 4: now she's like hyper anxious and like scared. So this 293 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 4: whole thing feels like a whirlwind. And then it's done 294 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 4: and everybody leaves and you're just it's just like the 295 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 4: three of you, you, your nurse, the two of us 296 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 4: in the nurse in the room again and it's like quiet, 297 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 4: and you're like, what just happened? 298 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: That's so funny. So my dad had you know, he's 299 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 2: anantasysiologist forre you guys listening, and he has not worked 300 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: on the Once you get to a certain like point 301 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 2: in your career, you can kind of decide what kind 302 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 2: of cases you want to take. And he hasn't been 303 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 2: on the Obie floor and at least a decade, I 304 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 2: would say, like fifteen years, because he says it's the 305 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: most unpredictable place in the entire hospital, and it makes 306 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 2: him so nervous because every case is just he did 307 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 2: never know what to expect, and they turn so quickly. 308 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: Oh I totally yeah one, and like anything good I 309 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: could have, anyone could be rolled back at any time, 310 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 3: you know, like you just have no idea because it's 311 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 3: up to the baby. 312 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: And this is when you think, like how in the 313 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 2: world did we deliver children over one hundred years ago? 314 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 2: Like how did not even one hundred years ago, but 315 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 2: like seventy years ago, Like how was this a thing? 316 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 2: How are we so lucky to live in this like 317 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: seventy year period of this world? Because if you needed 318 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: to see section back in the eighteen hundreds, eh no, 319 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: I know, we. 320 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: Talked about that so much with their nurse, like what 321 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: did you do? 322 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: I don't know, crazy, so wild? Okay, so now you're 323 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 2: chill and you got your epidural, they broke your water 324 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 2: you barely felt that. 325 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then nothing. 326 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so now you're just chilling waiting to dilate more. 327 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 3: Yes, I have the potocin drift the whole time too, 328 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 3: so I'm like having contractions. I was having contractions every 329 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 3: two minutes for like ten hours. 330 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 2: And you had no idea, no idea. 331 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, but at like what time was it? At ten pm, 332 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: my nurse came in and did like a circuit where 333 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 3: she changed my positions, like the mile circuit, so you 334 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: changed positions, and she was like massaging my pelvis and 335 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: just like getting baby to like move down into my 336 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 3: pelvis more. And so we did that for like an hour, 337 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: and then I fell asleep and then they checked my 338 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: dilation at eleven and or no, they checked my dilation 339 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 3: at eleven and I was seven centimeters dilated and the 340 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 3: nurse could see Winnie's hair, which is crazy. And then 341 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 3: I fell asleep for an hour and a half, and 342 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 3: at twelve thirty am on Wednesday, I was ten centimeters 343 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 3: dilated and so we were ready to push. 344 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 2: And when they said okay, we're ready to push, what 345 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: were your feelings? 346 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 3: I was so excited because we've been there for so long, 347 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: just like waiting and like I was being poked and 348 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: prodded and like I'm just so excited. But Ben was 349 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 3: fast asleep, so the nurse had to wake him up 350 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 3: and woke him up and it was like it's time 351 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 3: to push. And then it was like. 352 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 2: It's so crazy. 353 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: When I went to sleep, she was four centimeters they'd 354 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 4: just broken her water and so they're like, hey, if 355 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 4: you want to like get some sleep, now's your time. 356 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 4: And I was like when is this, Like when do 357 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 4: you think this could happen. They're like it will happen 358 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 4: like early morning, Like, yeah, I'm gonna go to sleep, 359 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 4: like if everything's good. She's like, looks like take a nap. 360 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 4: And so when they woke me up, to're like all right, 361 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: then it's time to push. I I'll never forget that 362 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 4: feeling of like, oh, it's now happening, like we are. 363 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 4: And I looked at Jess and she has like this 364 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: smile and happy tears and she's like are you ready? 365 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 4: And I'm like I'm ready, and we just are like 366 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: I guess we're gonna go through this until we have 367 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:08,880 Speaker 4: a baby. 368 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. It's so weird because it's like so crazy for us. 369 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 2: And then the nurses are like we do this multiple 370 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: times a day. 371 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's time. 372 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: Let's just it's time. 373 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 374 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 375 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 3: She was like are you ready to you want to 376 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 3: do it now? 377 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 2: I was like yeah. 378 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 4: Like so, Jess and I kind of had a birth 379 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 4: plan tentatively where I was going to DJ, like I 380 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 4: brought a speaker to DJ pushing part, and so there 381 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 4: was like a like Jess would like go through and 382 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: push and then rest and she'd be like, all right, 383 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 4: new song, next song, A little I want a little faster, 384 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 4: a little slower, because I start out with like some 385 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 4: like real slow, Like I have this playlist on Spotify 386 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 4: that I made for Jess that we like that she 387 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 4: can listen to anytime she wants to add songs to 388 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 4: and so, but it's like lovey and slow, and so 389 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 4: I started playing that. I was like this is be 390 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,479 Speaker 4: sweet and she's like, no, we got to speed this up. 391 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 4: Let's get nineties like pop. And I'm like, okay, nineties pop. 392 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 4: So in sync comes on. That works for a little bit, 393 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 4: and then we move into like what's going to make 394 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 4: people dance on tables? And I'm like, all right, that playlist, 395 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: let me type that in. 396 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 3: It's my favorite playlist on Spotify. It's like making dunk 397 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 3: people dance on tables or something like that. It's so good. 398 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: But I was it was the middle of the night. 399 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 3: I started pushing at one thirty, so I was like 400 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 3: falling asleep in between contractions. So I had to have. 401 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 2: Like you had been awake for how long, like two days? 402 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: I hadn't slept hardly. I had taken like two two 403 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: hour naps maybe. 404 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: And then what about eating? 405 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: I hadn't eaten in a long time. 406 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you ate. 407 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 4: Right, you had a casadia. 408 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 3: You have a before my epidural. 409 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: Oh that was the it had been quite some time. 410 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it had been a while. So anyways, been DJ. 411 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 3: I pushed for an hour and a half foremost and 412 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 3: she came out to Rihanna singing, please don't stop the 413 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 3: music yep, and all the nurses were laughing because she 414 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 3: was like wiggling her head. 415 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: You could see her like coming out and she was 416 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: just going like this, no, and then there's like what 417 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 4: is she doing? And she was just like wiggling her 418 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 4: head back and forth. 419 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: That's hilarious. I love that. 420 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we I don't know how good of 421 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 4: a view you'll have, but. 422 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 2: We've got a great view. 423 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: Winnie came out at what two point fifty two three 424 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: am at seven pounds three ounces, twenty inches long. 425 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 2: Amazing, so beautiful and so wonderful. And how was your feeling? 426 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: I feel like both of you guys, you saw heaven. 427 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 3: Honestly, yes, the nurses told us that it was like 428 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 3: their favorite post birth moment they've had, because both of 429 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 3: us were just like happy, tears excited, couldn't believe it, 430 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: like honestly breathless. She came out and like, obviously we're biased, 431 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 3: but she has a really really cute face and I 432 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: couldn't believe that that was her face. 433 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 2: And you were so excited to see her face. 434 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,239 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I was so excited to see her 435 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 3: face and she like her lips were all swollen and 436 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: she just looked like the perfect little baby was the best. 437 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 2: It was about to cry. 438 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was crazy. Well, the nurse was really sweet 439 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 4: to me too, because I was more like interested that 440 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: I thought I would be, Like we talked about this 441 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 4: right before, right before. It's funny how things change, Like 442 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 4: I was more intrigued with what was going on once 443 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: it felt like things were going well, and so the 444 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: nurse would like clean Jess up. In between like pushing moments, 445 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 4: and then she'd be like, Ben, you want to come look, 446 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 4: and so like she was really sweet and like to 447 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: Jess and I both like where I you know, she 448 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,479 Speaker 4: would clean her up, we'd get all reset, and then 449 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 4: she'd be like you should come look, and so like 450 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 4: I got to see the top of Oney's head, which 451 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 4: was insane to see. And then like as when he 452 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 4: got to come out, but like once she's ready to 453 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 4: come out, like it happens so fast, like they don't 454 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 4: tell you, like this is going to be the last one. 455 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 4: They're like, you're getting close, Jess, and then all of 456 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 4: a sudden there's a baby like wailing and they're holding 457 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 4: her up, and then they just gave her to Jess 458 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,880 Speaker 4: and like they did this like when he was wailing, 459 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 4: and as soon as they laid Winny on Jess's chest, 460 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: she stopped and the two of them just like laid 461 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 4: there together for an hour and which was incredibly sweet, 462 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: and so you know, they got justs like cleaned up 463 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 4: and like probably I'll like my favorite moment though, was 464 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: everybody leaves then once like the cord's cut and like 465 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 4: Jess is like cleaned up and everything's like. 466 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 2: The cord cutting was nothing right but nothing. 467 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 4: It is tough. It's like thinker than I thought I was. 468 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: But then it was just Winnie, jess and I in 469 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 4: the room, and I like I think jess and I 470 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: both had this like massive letdown, Like I didn't realize 471 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 4: how like stressed I was about the whole situation. And 472 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,639 Speaker 4: then obviously Jessica just gave birth. So as soon as 473 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,399 Speaker 4: everything was good and when he was safe and everything 474 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: had been done and the room was quiet, like we 475 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: both just like took this deep breath and we turned 476 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 4: on some worship music, like real soft worship music, and 477 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 4: we all three fell asleep like for a good hour 478 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: and a half, just like as a family, which was 479 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 4: like so like it was like a beautifully magical moment 480 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 4: because I think everybody was so tired and like now 481 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,639 Speaker 4: we were going to start this journey is a family together. 482 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 3: It was really special. It was like a long waiting 483 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 3: process I feel like my labor was. But it was 484 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 3: so good. 485 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 4: Then, Jessica says, when we woke up from the nap, 486 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: she was holding winning and I was like, how you 487 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 4: do and She's like, I do it again right now 488 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: for her, Like I would go all through this again. 489 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 4: And I was like, that's insane because I assuming you will. 490 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I assuming God it is the plan. Yeah, but 491 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: I would have like I would have labored for however 492 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 3: long I needed to to have her. She's like the 493 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 3: most perfect thing, and she's such a good baby and 494 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 3: she's a week old today, so we're settled in as 495 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 3: a family and it's just been like the best thing ever. 496 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 2: So sweet. Guys. So when when you were like that 497 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 2: whole last about like you felt good right, like you 498 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: weren't you were comfortable? 499 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean it's crazy if you get n up 500 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 3: dar all, Like, it's not painful, it's just the pressure. 501 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 3: So like, especially when she was about to come out, 502 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: I was like I have to keep pushing because the 503 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: pressure is like so intense. But it wasn't like painful. 504 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 3: And then they sit you up when you still have 505 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: your epidural too, so it was awesome. 506 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 2: M totally. And then how was how did your body feel? 507 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: I think like immediately you're just like relieved. You don't 508 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: like you actually like don't even like feel your body 509 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: Like is that kind of a weird description of it. 510 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 3: No, that's like a perfect description. 511 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 4: It's I mean. 512 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: Also probably because we have the epidurals. Yes, but no 513 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: baby coming out anymore. And then afterward, you know, it 514 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 2: kind of hits next morning. How did how are you 515 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: feeling physically right now? 516 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 3: Well, I had three tears, all in different places. In 517 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 3: one of them, I mean, is it Teami. 518 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,359 Speaker 2: No, it's not team I tell us all because I 519 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: couldn't walk for like three to four weeks after Dawson. 520 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 2: But after Hayden, I danced the next day. It was weird. 521 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 3: It's insane, but yeah, the nurses said that the second baby, 522 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 3: they call it a stop and drop when the when 523 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 3: people are in labor, it's like so fast and easy. 524 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: It was so it was crazy. The second one was 525 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: so crazy. I just couldn't believe. I was like, it's 526 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: going to hit me right when I'm dancing in the 527 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,439 Speaker 2: kitchen the day after, and it never really hit. It 528 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 2: was weird, but guess because you tear so much less 529 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: the second time. Anyway, How was how was the tear? 530 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: Well, I had a second degree tear and then I 531 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 3: had a tear on my urethra, which is like really tough. 532 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 3: So I had a catheter for another twenty four hours 533 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 3: in the hospital, and that one hurt really that tears. 534 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 3: It's still a little tough. I'm sitting on my like 535 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 3: inflatable doughnut right now. Yeah, but overall, I feel better 536 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 3: than I thought I would. I thought I would feel 537 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: like I kind of got like hit by a car, 538 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 3: But yeah, it hasn't been that bad. 539 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: Good. 540 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 4: The crazy thing to me is, I don't know if 541 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 4: this is like a thing, but as so, like the 542 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: pushing part is incredible, and it because of the time 543 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 4: of day and because of how long it was, like 544 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 4: Jess would kind of fall asleep in between pushing because 545 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: she was so tired and she was working so hard 546 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 4: at it. But as like when he moved down, like 547 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 4: just the amount of like justice belly was like diappringing, 548 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 4: like in the midst of the pushing, Jess and I 549 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 4: looked at her belly and we're like, you have a 550 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: belly button again. It's so weird to that or they 551 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 4: just yeah it like it was that was crazy to me. Yeah, 552 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 4: I don't know, like that that part was wild, just 553 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 4: how quickly the belly like started to go away. And 554 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: now it's crazy to me that I kind of like 555 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 4: right now, like her parents are out here that week 556 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 4: my parents are out here right now and we're doing 557 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 4: some work on the house. So like the mornings and 558 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 4: the evenings are my time with Winnie. And during the 559 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: day like she just kind of gets passed around and 560 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 4: then Jess like takes her for a long time and everything. 561 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 4: But when he will lay on my chest and her 562 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 4: head will be like on my shoulder and her feet 563 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 4: will be like at my groin, and every time, like 564 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: I'm like, how did you fit fit in my like 565 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 4: in my wife, like just as a foot shorter than me, 566 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 4: and like somehow you were in there and it doesn't 567 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 4: like that doesn't like the anatomia, that doesn't make sense. 568 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, so tell me about the day after, because that's 569 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: a day you know, the hospital has a schedule for you. 570 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: Then you have the newborn shoot, and then the nurses 571 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: are waking you up every hour to go pee or 572 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: every twenty minutes. 573 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 3: It was insane. Yeah, I really felt like every twenty 574 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 3: minutes someone was in there like doing something to me 575 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 3: or to Winny. And because I tour where I did, 576 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: like they had to check my catheter bag and they 577 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 3: had to like then they would do the fundel massage 578 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: and like see how my bleeding was and then they 579 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 3: would check on Winnie and it was like the craziest 580 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 3: day ever. So we had the option to spend a 581 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,840 Speaker 3: second night, like for recovery, so I took that. So 582 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: I spent the night Thursday night too, just to like 583 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,239 Speaker 3: be able to try and sleep a little bit. And 584 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 3: it was nice because I kept you have so many questions, 585 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 3: like because I decided to breastfeed, and that's really hard 586 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: too because you don't have your milk yet, and so 587 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 3: like having people there to support was really helpful. But 588 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: those two days in the hospital felt like the biggest 589 00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 3: whirlwind because you're getting so much info. You're like figuring 590 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: out your body and like how to handle that, and there's. 591 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: Just feels like a business day kind of Yes, I'm 592 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 2: like I have. 593 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: So many meetings today, this is crazy. 594 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 2: You know you have some forms to fill out. Yeah, 595 00:29:56,320 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: it was wild, including the birth certificate. So how did 596 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 2: you guys come up with the name Winnie? Winnie Higgins 597 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 2: tell us about when you came up with this name. 598 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: I know you had it for a while, but you 599 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: didn't I didn't tell us. 600 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 4: We have a list of boy names that are pretty extensive, 601 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 4: and that has been hard for us to narrow down 602 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 4: because we like so many and like, as soon as 603 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 4: just found out she was pregnant, she started like doing 604 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: the like notes on her phone with the names that 605 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 4: we would hear, and girl names were really hard for us. 606 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 4: There wasn't many we agreed upon. And then there was 607 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 4: a moment where we were sitting on the couch in 608 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 4: our living room kind of like going through names. And 609 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 4: I don't exactly remember how Winona got brought up. 610 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: So it wasn't a why no writer movie no. 611 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 4: Because I'm from Winona Lake, Indiana, So somehow we came 612 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 4: up with Winonah is such a beautiful name. And then 613 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 4: we both are like, we like that name. It I 614 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: mean in a lot of ways as an ode to 615 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 4: like where I'm from in a place that matters a 616 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 4: lot to me. But also it's it's not that in 617 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 4: the sense that we just really liked the name. It 618 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: means first daughter, which we didn't know when we picked 619 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 4: it out. Yeah, and like the symbolism of the name 620 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 4: why Noona is really beautiful. It has like it means patient, 621 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 4: it means resilient, it means kind, it means others focused, 622 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 4: and so like there was just a lot of things 623 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 4: going well for the name, why Noona and who we 624 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 4: dream of her being? But we both it was like 625 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 4: the only girl name we both liked. Like I was 626 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 4: really into names that had like cute little nicknames like 627 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 4: Gigi or like viv or something like that, and so 628 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 4: with one Nona, I was like, oh, my gosh, we 629 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 4: can call her Winny like yes, and she has a 630 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 4: Winnie the Pooh theme nursery that was already in place 631 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 4: before we knew the name, So yeah, so that works 632 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 4: out really great. We don't want to go overboard on 633 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: Winnie the Pooh, like we love Winning the Pooh in 634 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: this household a lot, but we don't want it to 635 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 4: be like, oh, we named you after Winning the Poop 636 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: because we didn't. But she does have like a Winnie 637 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 4: the Pooh theme nursery, and we just think it's such 638 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 4: a cute little name. 639 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 2: So that is so cute. What is the thing about 640 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 2: home life with money that is most surprising to you? 641 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: First of all, our dog is obsessed with her. 642 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: Yes. Oh, you guys were so stressed, And I told 643 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 2: you I was like, our dog hates everyone except we 644 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 2: brought our kids home, and she she's like, oh, hey, 645 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 2: I was up. 646 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he is obsessed with her in the sweetest way, 647 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 4: Like he is sweeter to her than he's ever been 648 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 4: to any other human in the world. 649 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 2: So special. 650 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 4: She lays by her in the morning, he licks like 651 00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: off her shirt like if he can get up to her. 652 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 4: Don't try to let him that close. But like if 653 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 4: she has like a spit towel, like he'll like care 654 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: for it. He's incredible with her. So if like I'm 655 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 4: holding her on the couch, he always curls up right 656 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 4: next to us. 657 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: So sweet. I'm so happy to hear this. 658 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 4: That was the first time. I think there was just 659 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 4: a lot going on. We got home from the hospital 660 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 4: and Jess pretty much immediately went into nurse and I 661 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,959 Speaker 4: was like kind of unpacking some stuff, and I walked 662 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 4: into the room and Waylon was laying at Jess's feet 663 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 4: while when they were in the rocking chair nursing, and 664 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 4: I lost it, like, like I've never. 665 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: Seen him kig like that before. 666 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 2: That's beautiful and it's a relief. 667 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 4: It's a relief. I prayed like hands and niece straight 668 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 4: to Jesus for ten months, even before we knew we 669 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 4: were pregnant, Like God like, what can we do to 670 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 4: help this dog be the dog I know he is, 671 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: Like I love him so much and I know he's 672 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 4: going to be a great big brother, but like what 673 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 4: can we do? And prayers were answered like immediately. 674 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 2: So and they have been amazing. 675 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's been amazing, Like we're so grateful for that. 676 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,400 Speaker 2: Did you have anything that you did specifically aid? 677 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 4: We did a lot of training beforehand, Like we did 678 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 4: we hired a trainer to do like baby training. We 679 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,959 Speaker 4: would carry around like a baby doll around the house. 680 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 4: We'd lay a baby doll in its crib. We did 681 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 4: a lot of like positive reinforcement for like how he 682 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 4: would react around the baby doll. And then we sent 683 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 4: home some of her items after birth with my parents 684 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 4: because they were watching him and he like had those. 685 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 4: And then when we got home, we put up a 686 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 4: baby gate, put Winnie in a like in our car 687 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 4: seat behind the baby gate wheel on the other side 688 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: so he could like smell her, and then we just 689 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 4: like gave him a bunch of treats during it, like 690 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 4: tell him he was great, and after that he was 691 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 4: kind of like awesome. And Jess has been in like 692 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 4: an incredible mother, like it's wild. She knows this baby 693 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 4: so well. She knows how what when he's thinking, when 694 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 4: he's wanting her, and when he are like bonded in 695 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 4: the most beautiful way. And so we've kind of tag 696 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 4: teamed it right now, where like Wayland's life hasn't changed 697 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 4: that much. He still gets out on walks, my parents 698 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: are here to help with that, and then like when 699 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 4: her parents were out here, like he would have some 700 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 4: fun days like outside of the house, and so like 701 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 4: his life hasn't changed that much, which I also think 702 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 4: has been a big deal. So he's not like jealous 703 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 4: or like this sucks, like what's happening. Yeah, So we 704 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 4: just kind of tag teamed it the best we can 705 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 4: right now. 706 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 2: My final question for you, amongst so many more that 707 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 2: will come another podcast, and Ben, I feel like we 708 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 2: probably need another one, just as like a follow up 709 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: for all the other questions I didn't ask. But here's 710 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 2: a betting question for you, guys. How have you changed 711 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 2: in the past week and a half. 712 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 4: If I'm honest with you. Jess and I just talked 713 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 4: about this last night, and I want to try. I've 714 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 4: been thinking a lot about this because I want to 715 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 4: be as honest to Dad's as possible. There is a 716 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 4: biological connection I think that mothers have with their babies. 717 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,919 Speaker 4: Obviously they're growing inside of them, you feel the move, 718 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 4: you're giving birth to them, right, and then you're you know, 719 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 4: responsible for a lot of the things that keep this 720 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,240 Speaker 4: baby alive. I was more worried about Jessica than I 721 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,440 Speaker 4: was anything else for a period of time when we're 722 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 4: in the hospital. Oh yeah, I'm getting to you, don't 723 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,239 Speaker 4: be jealous. And then once Winona came out, I just 724 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,279 Speaker 4: looked over and I saw my family, and then there 725 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 4: was like more I'd say, like there was this like 726 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 4: peace because of the situation. There was a love because 727 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 4: of you know, it being my child, but there was 728 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 4: more of an immediate feeling of like protection, like like 729 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,760 Speaker 4: I'm on guard a little bit now, and then every 730 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 4: day gets to where I'm more just like like I 731 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 4: worry more. I worry more about why I know that 732 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 4: tonight than I did the first night we were home. 733 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 4: Like there's well, put there's an everyday kind of like new. 734 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 3: Moment. 735 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 4: There's a new thing that makes me feel more connected 736 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 4: to her. But I won't say, and I don't want 737 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,319 Speaker 4: to lie and say like the moment she came out 738 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 4: of the womb, all of a sudden, this like overwhelming 739 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 4: sense of like connection existed. It was more of a 740 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: like a protection responsibility and a piece that everybody was good. 741 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 4: And then every day I think there's a new like 742 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 4: something is building and I can feel. 743 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 2: That perfectly, perfectly put. Jared would agree with you, yeah, And. 744 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 4: I just think it is. I think it's I don't know, 745 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 4: everybody probably has a different experience, but when you're a 746 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 4: mom like her and Winona, we're together for nine months 747 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 4: like without me, and now I'm building this relationship with 748 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 4: this girl that you know is in the world. So 749 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 4: I'd say that's how i'd explain it. I don't know 750 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 4: if that's perfect. I don't know if that summaris perfect 751 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 4: summarizes everything. But if I want to be honest, like 752 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 4: if I have dads who are like I didn't feel 753 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: anything for like two months, and I feel guilty about it, 754 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: and I'm like, now that I'm I'm in it, I'm like, 755 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 4: I don't think you should feel guilty about it. I 756 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 4: don't know anybody in my life that's like, gosh, dang it, 757 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,360 Speaker 4: I really wish we never had kids. I know, but 758 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: I do know people that are like I don't necessarily 759 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 4: feel like I thought I did in the first month. 760 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,960 Speaker 4: I'm somewhere in the middle of that. Yep, you don't 761 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 4: want to force it. 762 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 2: I think that's something that needs to be talked about 763 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 2: more because then it leads to more guys feeling so guilty. 764 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think Gil is up. I don't think 765 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 4: Gil and shame about your reaction? Is is anything helpful? 766 00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 4: I think it's a natural like progression to this like 767 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:25,479 Speaker 4: beautiful place. But goodness, it's beautiful. It's yeah, I'm looking 768 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,919 Speaker 4: at her. I mean it's beautiful, like it's crazy, it's 769 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,200 Speaker 4: it's something special. I do. Before we leave, want to 770 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 4: give a shout to Rose. She's a Rose Baby, which 771 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 4: if you're from Denver, you know, it's like the baby 772 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: hospital here in Denver. And they were outstanding, like outstanding 773 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 4: at every level, at every turn with anything going on. 774 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 4: They cared for Jess. Well they cared for why no, no, well, 775 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,799 Speaker 4: I think they cared about me, but I was more 776 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 4: just kind of hanging but like I would, just I 777 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,760 Speaker 4: want to give them a shout out because they really 778 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 4: did do an incredible job. 779 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 3: Jess, how do you feel differently the like I'm out 780 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 3: of love I have for her. Like Ben said, like 781 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 3: I do think there's like more of an adjustment period 782 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: for the dad, but like I have this like insane 783 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 3: protection over her that like my body will like shake 784 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,879 Speaker 3: if she's crying and I'm not in the room, Like. 785 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: That is something that you guys will you will feel 786 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 2: it more and moarm I think when she starts becoming 787 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 2: a little bit more awake to the world and like 788 00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: people will say, oh, you have to let her cry 789 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 2: for a little while, you don't like and the mom 790 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,760 Speaker 2: is like the sound like I can, no, cannot, cannot, 791 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,960 Speaker 2: And then the dad doesn't hit them the same no. 792 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 3: And it's like I've I've tried to explain it to Ben, 793 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: like it's not that I'm it's not an anxiety. It's 794 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 3: just like a like I can make this better, like 795 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 3: let me have her exactly. 796 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: It feels controlling maybe on the outside, but you're like, no, no, 797 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 2: I know exactly. I don't know how to describe it. 798 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 2: I know exactly how to hold. 799 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 3: Yes exactly, and it does feel controlling, and I'm like 800 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't want to be that mom that's like a 801 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 3: helicopter mom, but like I just I feel like I 802 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:20,719 Speaker 3: know exactly what she needs. And I've never felt like 803 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 3: I have all the answers before, but I feel like 804 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,879 Speaker 3: with her, I do have all the answers, which is weird. 805 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 2: I love the way you put that. That's beautiful. 806 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,000 Speaker 4: And we're a weekend, so like you know, like there's 807 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 4: a lot of like not a long way to go. Yeah, so, 808 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 4: but like so far, it's it's I mean, I've known 809 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 4: Jessica for a long time. It is there is a change, 810 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 4: and in the best of ways, like she's still Jessica, 811 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 4: the one I fell in love with, and she still 812 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,439 Speaker 4: has all the qualities that I need before, but there's 813 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 4: like an additional like sensibility, a different an additional like 814 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:10,080 Speaker 4: like familiarity of life, and like a confidence that I've 815 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 4: never seen her have confidence in before. Like there's a 816 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 4: confidence with my Nona that is different and it's beautiful. 817 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: It's just it's wild to see. And it happened kind 818 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,799 Speaker 4: of right away, like I could tell, like right as 819 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 4: soon as Winona went on her chest when she came out, 820 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 4: I like, I, like I said, I could see something 821 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,240 Speaker 4: changing fierce. 822 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,240 Speaker 3: Jess Yeah became I became a mom, very real quick. 823 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 2: It's so cute. I love it so much, all right, 824 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 2: I can't wait to hear more and more about your 825 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: experiences and all the other details that you're going to 826 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: realize that you forgot. And we're going to talk to 827 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 2: you probably been next week, back next week and Jess, 828 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 2: we will talk to you soon and uh text us 829 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,120 Speaker 2: if you need any advice or any recommendations. You know, 830 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 2: we love talking about this. 831 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,440 Speaker 3: Thank you so much, and thank you for letting me 832 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 3: do the whole timeline. 833 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 2: I hope that was okay, but it was delightful, true joy. 834 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 1: Ok you guys, follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost 835 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: Famous podcasts on iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.