1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: He is the owner of this team. He still has 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: a major influence on everything that goes on with this team, 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: and it does all go back to him. Hello, everyone, 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: welcome to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm Ken 5 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: Roosefal here with Alana Rizzo. Alana, we have our first 6 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: two playoff teams, the Milwaukee Brewers and the New York Yankees. 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: Congratulations to both the Brewers for clinching the NL Central title. 8 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: The Yankees they've clinched a wild card. The division is 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: to come. But Alana, only in this sport could we 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: have a clubhouse celebration featuring the ninety year old Bob 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: Yak and the twenty year old Jackson Churio getting a 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: case of non alcoholic beverages left in a baby stroller. 13 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great to say it. Happy birthday, Ken Rosenthal. 14 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: Great to be with you today on your birthday. And again, 15 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: congratulations to Pat Murphy, first year manager on the brew 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 2: crew getting in And yes, that was a funny thing 17 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 2: that we saw with the baby carriage. What an interesting 18 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: time to be alive. Twenty years old and you can't 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 2: drink alcohol when you clinch. I love to see it. 20 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Let's get the questions in for Grill and Ken, make 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 2: sure that you load him up so we know what 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 2: to ask him, like US rate US five stars all 23 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 2: of the things. 24 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 3: And Ken, let's get to the lead. 25 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 2: You were talking about two teams that have already clinched, 26 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: but there's another team that's really surprising people. And you 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 2: don't want to play the Detroit Tigers right now? 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: No, you don't, and Alana, I have to start with 29 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: the Maya Koppa. On my Monday show, I basically said 30 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,559 Speaker 1: the only race left of consequence was the NL Wild 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Card with the Braves and the Mets and Tigers fans reacted. 32 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: Mariners fans reacted as well. Now, Mariners fans, you can 33 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: pipe down. But the Tigers fans were right, and I 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: blew it because I should have known this race was 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: not over, even though it was two and a half 36 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: games at the time. I basically said, a team is 37 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: going to have to collapse. The Twins are the team 38 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: ready to collapse, and they've been that way for a while, 39 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: even with Korea and Buxton back. They're going with three 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: rookie starting pitchers. They're going with a bullpen now that 41 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,959 Speaker 1: is exhausted, and the Tigers have been the best team 42 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: in baseball for about six weeks now twenty five and 43 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: ten to get in this position. They are in commanding position. 44 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: I would say based on the way the Twins are playing. 45 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: I know they're a half game out, and I know 46 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: the Twins hold the tiebreaker, But which team would you 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: rather play right now? 48 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:31,679 Speaker 2: Well, I certainly don't want to play the Tigers, and 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: I certainly don't want to play the New York Mets. 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: I know that Aj Hinch, the Tiger skipper, was on 51 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: foul Territory yesterday. He was also on high Heat with 52 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 2: me the other day on MLB Network, and he talked 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 2: about the fact that you know what they have pictures 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: of that the you know, the rear view mirror objects 55 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 2: are closer than they may appear. And Ken, that's the 56 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 2: Detroit Tigers, and give them credit because as Aj mentioned, 57 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 2: it's not as if this is just over the course 58 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 2: of the last week. If you go back to their 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: last thirty three thirty four games, they have the best 60 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 2: record in all of baseball. So they're getting hot at 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,679 Speaker 2: the right time. You also mentioned the Twins have scuffled 62 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: as of late, but they've done it the last couple 63 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 2: of years. What is it about the seasons that Minnesota 64 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 2: can't finish off. 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,639 Speaker 1: Well, I can speak to this season and you see 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: the tweet from Aaron Gleam and my colleague at the 67 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 1: Athletic here, and certainly these two collapses are reminiscent of 68 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: one another. This one, to me is more based on 69 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: injuries and depletion and the fact that they didn't do much, 70 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 1: if anything, at the deadline. Now, the shocking thing there though, 71 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: is that the Tigers sold at the trade deadline. To 72 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: remember Jack Flaherty out the door, others out the door, 73 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: Mark Cannon. Then they released Urschello, who is now playing 74 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: for the Braves. They took a step backwards, and yet 75 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: they got even better. They've got an interesting, intriguing core 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: of young position player talent. That outfield is really fun 77 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: with Parker Meadow's Wen sial Perez and of course Riley Green. 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: They've got Carry Carpenter back in the lineup. That was 79 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: a key addition for Meadows. Has played brilliantly. And what's 80 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: amazing is through I don't know about maybe a week ago, 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: this hot streak has been on the backs of Turick 82 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: Scoubel and Montero, the other pitcher they were running bullpen 83 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: games because they didn't have Casey Mice at the time, 84 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: they didn't have riese Olsen, and yet here they are. 85 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: Their bullpen features a bunch of people that I don't 86 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: know that too many casual fans can name, I don't 87 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: know that too many baseball insiders can name, and yet 88 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: they're getting it done. 89 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, Montero with the complete game shutout, Trek Scooble finally 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: got the monkey off of his back. That was the 91 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 2: Kansas City Royals. He's been such an unbelievable edition, of 92 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 2: course for them, probably going to get the Cy Young 93 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: Award in the National League. Now, how much do you 94 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 2: put into the remaining schedule? As you can see the 95 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: AO wild card here, ken could very well be three 96 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: ALE Central teams getting into the postseason. Many of us 97 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 2: not picking the Tigers, but they could very well be 98 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: in that postseason picture. 99 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: I generally don't put too much into the schedule because 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: you have to be playing well and you can lose 101 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: to any team. A lot of the non contenders have 102 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: nothing to lose at this time of year. But you 103 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: notice there Tigers end with the White Sox at home. 104 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: That to me should be a gimme and I believe 105 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: the Tigers are nine to one against the White Sox 106 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: this year. The White Sox have completely ruined the Pennant 107 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: race because they've laid down for pretty much everyone except 108 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: the Guardians in that division. But at the same time 109 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: the Oriols are struggling, the Twins get the Red Sox, 110 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: who have not played great of late. Miami is Miami 111 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: and Baltimore who knows what state they'll be in by then, 112 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 1: I would assume they would have clinched a playoff berth 113 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: and by then maybe they're not doing anything with gearing up, 114 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: although they've got some injured players returning that need to 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: get hot again, so we will see. But at the 116 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: same time, right now, the Tigers are the much hotter team. 117 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: They've got this mojo going, they've got it all flowing, 118 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: and they look like a team that is going to 119 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: get there. 120 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah they do. 121 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 2: Let's talk about the New York Yankees for just a second. 122 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 2: They clinched a birth nonetheless the division. Yet I really 123 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be a closer race here 124 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: at the end can between the Yankees and the Baltimore Orioles. 125 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: But the Yankees increasing their division lead the Orioles just 126 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 2: can't seem to be getting it going. 127 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: Both these teams in the second half have not played 128 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: their best, but in two of the last weeks. The 129 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: two recent weeks, the Yankees have played much better. They've 130 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: won nine of twelve. The Orioles have lost eight of ten, 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: and you see the Yankees celebrating there. There'll be a 132 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: bigger celebration to come. The Orioles are a team right 133 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: now that looks like an early knockout. Now. I say 134 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: that with the caveat that last year Texas Rangers, after 135 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,159 Speaker 1: they've lost three or four in Seattle to end the season, 136 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: they look like a team that was going to get 137 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: knocked out early, and they came all the way through 138 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: the postseason and won the World Series. I look at 139 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,119 Speaker 1: the Oriols and Yankees on June twentieth, both were among 140 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: the best teams in baseball. Since then, neither has played 141 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: particularly well. As I said, the Yankees have picked it 142 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: up of late. The Orioles eight games under five hundred 143 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: since June. Their deadline, aside from Zach Efflin, was not 144 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: very good. They needed more offense and they didn't really 145 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: get it, and they had an unfortunate circumstance to when 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: Jordan Westburg got hit on the hand the day after 147 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: the deadline, they lost him. The good news is, if 148 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: there is good news here, Westburg is coming back, Urias 149 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: is coming back. Those two guys are starting a rehab assignment. 150 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: Danny Kolom, one of their better relievers, is coming back. 151 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's enough. I don't know if 152 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: their season can be turned around. At this point, they're 153 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: going to be in the playoffs. That's not the issue. 154 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: The issue is they never got Grayson Rodriguez back. It 155 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: still doesn't look like he's going to return, and their 156 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: offense has fallen apart. It's been built on younger players 157 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 1: and a number of them have not performed in the 158 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: second half, most specifically Rushman and Holliday the way they envisioned. 159 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Holiday certainly getting the call up early on, had 160 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: the struggles early on, which you could anticipate from a 161 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: young player. But they definitely need to get the offense 162 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,679 Speaker 2: going a couple of moves. Of course, for the Orioles 163 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: over the last couple of days, they designated Craig Kimbrel 164 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 2: for assignment. Sir Anthony Domingez. Obviously it looks to be 165 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 2: their closer. So Craig Kimbrel is looking for work. Let's 166 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: speak about the Chicago White Sox for a moment, because 167 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 2: you had mentioned that they're kind of laying down for 168 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 2: everybody ruining this postseason picture and you and the Great 169 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 2: Bridge Rooli had a nice article about the White Sox struggles. 170 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 3: What more can you tell us about that? 171 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know that it was a nice article. 172 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Well, I enjoyed reading it. 173 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: I enjoyed reading it, But I don't know that it 174 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 2: wasn't nice about the franchise. 175 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: But it was well written, is how I should have 176 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: said it. 177 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: No, a lot of thank you and listen. When you're 178 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: on the verge of breaking an all time record, as 179 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: the White Sox are the record of one hundred and 180 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: twenty losses by the nineteen sixty two mets, they were 181 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: at one seventeen, it prompts questions. And the questions that 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: Britt and I asked were, well, why did this happen? 183 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: How did they get here? And in talking to almost 184 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: forty people and president employees, people around the game, what 185 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: came kept coming back is that it all leads to 186 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: the owner, Jerry rein Store, of who is eighty eight, 187 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: and I don't necessarily love writing critically about eighty eight 188 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: year old people. I don't think that's necessarily a habit 189 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: i'd like to get into. But he is the owner 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: of this team. He still has a major influence on 191 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 1: everything that goes on with this team, and it does 192 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: all go back to him. So in the article we 193 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: get into some of the things that have happened over 194 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 1: the years. The White Sox were slow to embrace analytics. 195 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: They are a team that hired Tony LaRusso when they 196 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: could have had aj Hinch. They are a team that 197 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: had Ken Williams and rickh On, both of whom accomplished 198 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: some really good things, but ultimately had different views of 199 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: how the franchise should be run. And now they're a 200 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: team run by Chris Getz, a GM they hired without 201 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: interviewing anyone from the outside as if they had all 202 00:09:55,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: the answers, and gets has kind of had rookie struggles GM, 203 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 1: so this is where they are. I encourage people to 204 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: read this. It's a long one, but Britt and I 205 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: worked hard on it. Britt is one of the great 206 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: reporters in our business right now, and it was honestly 207 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: a pleasure working with her on this because we got 208 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: a lot of information and a lot of things that 209 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: I don't know that have been out there really, and 210 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: we tried to just put it all together in a 211 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: single story and hopefully we accomplished what we set out 212 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: to do. 213 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: And bridge're really is going to be on Foul Territory 214 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 2: with the boys coming up here after Fair Territory. So 215 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 2: you can certainly go in depth with her on the 216 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 2: story a little bit more. 217 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: What impressed you the most about the information. 218 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: That you were able to receive ken that perhaps wasn't 219 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: out there before, and moreover, some people were actually able 220 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 2: to and willing to put their name on it and 221 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: give you some quotes and take accountability. 222 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 3: Tell us more about that. 223 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, the most interesting thing to me was the item 224 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: we led with. I can't say this was the most newsworthy, 225 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 1: but it kind of cracked me up. And as soon 226 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: as I heard this quote, I knew we had to 227 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: start the article with it. The White Sox plane, the 228 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: one they charter is not at the same quality as 229 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: most teams. Now there are other teams that don't have 230 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: really great planes either, but the White Sox plane is 231 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: just something that is a seemingly constant source of discussion 232 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: among the players, and one of the former players told 233 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: me that at one point this season they had just 234 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: acquired a guy and he gets on the plane and 235 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: he goes, come on, man, no show plane, and he 236 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: was looking for the first class seats, looking for all that. 237 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: So that was a funny side and that's how he 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: did start the article. But the other things that stood 239 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: out were Ken Williams being willing to go on the 240 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: record about Reinstorf in actually a positive defensive way to 241 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 1: some degree. And Ken Williams has a quote on LaRussa 242 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: and the time that the White Sox had during his 243 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: managerial tenure that is must reading, to say the least. 244 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: So there were a number of things that kind of 245 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: jumped out. The analytical part too. Britt did some of 246 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: really good reporting on this. How they just have been 247 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: backwards to say the least on analytics and listen, analytics 248 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: are not everything. We all know that, but in today's 249 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: game you have to use them and you have to 250 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: use them properly, and they did not do that, have 251 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: not done that. 252 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to at least be willing to incorporate 253 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 2: some form or fashion when the other twenty nine teams 254 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 2: are doing. So that story about the plane reminds me 255 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: of the Colorado Rockies plane Ken before they have the 256 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: current plane that they're using. There was a plane, I 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 2: swear to you it was being used in World War 258 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: Two and they named it Mimi, and I remember very 259 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 2: distinctly when we were trying to take off. This is 260 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: as the reporter for the Rockies at the time, and 261 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 2: it would barely get off the ground enough to where 262 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: you're skimming the tree chops on a scent. They have 263 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: since retired Mimi, Thank goodness, much to the pleasure of 264 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 2: the Colorado Rockies organization. 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He wants to know 294 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: about the actual team planes and what reason there would 295 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: be Ken that a team plane is a death trap? 296 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 2: Why can't they just spend some money and get a 297 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: decent plane for goodness sakes. 298 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: That's a good question. And that's really what this speaks 299 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: to in that anecdote. It's a reflection on how they 300 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: operate and Jerry Reinstorp at times has spent a lot 301 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: of money on major league talent. They've had a lot 302 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: of bad contracts in recent years, and they had some 303 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: good ones prior to that. It seems that a number 304 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: of their investments have backfired. Of late Grendal and Intendee 305 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: and of course the extensions Jimenez and Moncada and all 306 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: of that. Luis Robert Junior not so much, but that 307 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: has been his philosophy. Invested the major league team, not 308 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: so much in the infrastructure and evidently not so much 309 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: in the plane. 310 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, no question about that. And I tell you what. 311 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: There are some show planes. 312 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 2: There are some planes that you walk into and you're like, 313 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And it's interesting too, how some teams 314 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: do the players are in front and the media is 315 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: in the back, and some organizations are opposite where the 316 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: players want to be at the back, unbothered, and the 317 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: media and coaching staff is in the front. Okay, another 318 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 2: question related to stuff on the field. This one comes 319 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: from Indiana Matt Ken. 320 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: This is for you. 321 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: How can you get teams to spend when the Brewers, 322 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 2: Royals and Tigers are all having success, So small market 323 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: teams not spending a ton of money, not huge payrolls, 324 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 2: but they're right where they need to be in that 325 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 2: postseason picture. 326 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: That's actually a good question. But the Royals did spend. 327 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: The Royals spent on Lugo and Waka and the Bobby 328 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Wit extension and some other players as well in the offseason, 329 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: so they're not a good example. The Brewers and Guardians 330 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: and Tigers for that matter, are excellent examples. And I 331 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to that exactly. Certainly, these teams 332 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: have done very well this season. We'll see how they 333 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: do in the postseason, which is of course more random 334 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: and not necessarily related to having the best team on 335 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: the field. That's just the best team at a given moment. 336 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: But the motivation to spend for these teams should be 337 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: to do what the Royals did last year. And the 338 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: Royals lost one hundred and six games. They're coming off 339 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: one hundred and six losses, and yet they decided we've 340 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 1: got to do some things to surround the young talent 341 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: we have with veteran talent, guys with no how and 342 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: that's the motivation. I wrote about this this week with 343 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: the Tigers. Yeah, the Tigers are looking really good. They have, 344 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: as I said, and intriguing young corps. But and I've 345 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: written this about the Red Sox two in recent weeks, 346 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: you can't win with just young players. Ultimately, you've got 347 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: to go and get some supplementary pieces as well. The 348 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: Guardians stand out as a really big exception right now, 349 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: as do the Brewers. But the Brewers do have Yelich 350 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: and what they had them for most of the year. 351 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: They still have Devin Williams at the back end. It's 352 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: not like they're free of stars or lacking stars. So 353 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: it's a good question and it will be interesting to 354 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: see whether the teams, some of them adopt the approach like, Hey, Brewers, 355 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: Guardian Steigers, we'll just sit on what we have, thank you. 356 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 2: Do you think that the Orioles are a good illustration 357 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 2: of that that you can't win with all young stars. 358 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they do have a couple of complimentary pieces 359 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: as far as veteran Cedric Mullens those types of things, 360 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 2: but they're all incredibly young. 361 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: They haven't had. 362 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: To push through a one sixty two into the postseason 363 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 2: type of season for the majority of them. 364 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: You're right, and they have. And they tried with Kimball 365 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: tooo to supplement the pitching staff Corbyn Burns, and then 366 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: they traded for Zach Eflin, traded for Trevor Rodgers. That 367 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: didn't work out so well. But on the position side, yes, 368 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: they had the established guys like Mullens and Austin Hayes 369 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: before he was traded. Santander is an established player. But 370 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: it seems to me you need a combination, and most 371 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: successful teams have that combination. And we'll see how some 372 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: of these clubs do in the postseason as well. Whether 373 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: the young nature of these teams kind of catches up 374 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: to them in that pressurized or more pressurized environment. I 375 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe it doesn't, and maybe these teams carry through. 376 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: But it's an interesting conversation. For sure. 377 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 2: I really thought I was going to go down to 378 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 2: the last weekend as who was going to win the 379 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 2: AL East. 380 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to be that way anymore. 381 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 2: Another question, as we switch our focus over to the 382 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: pitching side, can this one about the cy young award race? 383 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: How can you Ulyssy. 384 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 2: We also talked about the supposed race between Emmanuel class 385 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: A and Scooble for Cy Young. So he doesn't think 386 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: there should be any discussion. I guess between these two, 387 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,399 Speaker 2: one obviously is a starter, one is not. One's the 388 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 2: best reliever in the game. How do you envision this 389 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 2: race going. 390 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: For the starter and the Cy Young is for best picture. 391 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't distinguish between starter or reliever when you hear 392 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: it described. There is a relief picture award and there's 393 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: one that Emmanuel Classe will win because he is the 394 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: best reliever by a good bit. But when I do 395 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: my Cy Young voting or selections, innings are really big 396 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: with me. I was not in love with Snell winning 397 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: last year. There were a few years back. Actually, Snell 398 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen over Justin Erlander. The difference in innings 399 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: was like fifty. That drove me nuts. To me, when 400 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: you're eating up innings, you're providing greater value to your team, 401 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 1: and if your ERA is a bit higher, well okay, 402 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: you've pitched more innings. So on that basis alone, I 403 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: believe the starting pitcher is what we're talking about. When 404 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about the Say Young Award, and because there 405 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: is a separate award for relievers in the American League, 406 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: the Marianna Rivera Award in the National League and Trevor 407 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: Hoffman Award, that's where Emanuel Classe will get his due. 408 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, completely agree. 409 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 2: All right, somebody wants to know about the Boston Red 410 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 2: Sox and the off season. As we moved to the 411 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: off season for them, Comic Things has this to say. 412 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 2: Do you get a sense within the walls of Fenway Park? 413 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 2: I was there last night by the way post Malone 414 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 2: was fantastic that this is going to be a big 415 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 2: off season for Boston. And what's the impression of your 416 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 2: first year with Breslo and what he has done. 417 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,159 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I can say I have a sense 418 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 1: for what is going to happen. I have written about 419 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: what I think should happen, and what I think should 420 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: happen is that they should turn it up that the 421 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: offseason that was promised last year, the full throttle off season. 422 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that we need to go to that extent, 423 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: but certainly they need to do some things. And I've 424 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: written about the possibility of acquiring or signing a third 425 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: baseman like Alex Bregman movie Devor's the first trading Cossus. 426 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: They're going to need to make some trades. They have 427 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: so many young players. They're kind of like the Orioles 428 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: were and have been just overloaded with young position talent. 429 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: They need a number one starter. They are going to 430 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: need bullpen help as well, so I anticipate that they 431 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: will be active. And as for Breslow, he is in 432 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: his first year. The deadline did not turn out great. 433 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: The two relievers that both got hurt, James Paxton got hurt. 434 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: There wasn't much bang for their buck there, and they're 435 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: going to need to be more aggressive, and he's going 436 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: to need to be someone who takes a little bit 437 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: more risk as he goes forward. It's common for a 438 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 1: younger general manager maybe not to be that kind of GM, 439 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: be risk averse. But at the same time, this is 440 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: the Boston Red Sox. They should not be a team 441 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: that is sitting back and kind of picking out lesser 442 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: relievers and that kind of thing. Let's go for it here. 443 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 2: What a difference a year could have been for them 444 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: if Lucas Giulito was healthy, if they had Trevor Story 445 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: for the entire season if they had interesting passes for 446 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: the entire season, but we switch our focus now to 447 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five for them. 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I'm giving him due to the 478 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: week not just because he is a past Frick Award 479 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: winner and because he has had an amazingly distinguished and 480 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: great career in endearing himself to all of New England. 481 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: I'm giving him due to the week also because he 482 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: is taking control of the end. It's hard for people 483 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: to do that. We saw Woge do that. 484 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 3: Yes, y yeah, I'm gonna say Woes Yeah. I'm talking 485 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 3: about a Wojes bump. 486 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: In our business. It's pretty rare when it ends well 487 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: and for jokstick Leon. It's going to end well because 488 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: he is making it end well and he's not leaving 489 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 1: it to the Red Sox to decide ultimately what his 490 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: future is. He's had a great career. As I said, 491 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: a great broadcaster becomes part of the fabric of a region. 492 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: And we have a great article in The Athletic today 493 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: by Andrew Baggerley about John Miller and how he was 494 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: that to Baltimore and became that San Francisco so jokistically 495 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:02,920 Speaker 1: due to the week. 496 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, congratulations to him, four decades on the mic for 497 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: the Boston Red Sox. Best of lock and whatever it 498 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 2: is that he chooses to do next. He did say, 499 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 2: though Ken that he still has his fastball, so he's 500 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 2: not going anywhere. He's going to still be a part 501 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 2: of the fabric. He can just do it on his 502 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 2: own terms. My dude of the week is Pat Murphy. 503 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 2: I know that this has been a baseball man for 504 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 2: a really long time but finally got the opportunity to 505 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: be a manager. There you can see the celebration when 506 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 2: the Brewers clinched the National League Central This was before 507 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: he invited Bob Yucker into the picture there to congratulate 508 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 2: Yuker as well. 509 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 3: But Pat Murphy, good, good baseball man. 510 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: You know, everybody thought what was going to happen to 511 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 2: the Brewers when Craig Counsel went to the Chicago Cubs. 512 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 2: And he's done it without Corbyn Burns, He's done it 513 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: without Woodruff. He's done it with you know, Devin Williams 514 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 2: in the latter part of the season, without Christian Yelich 515 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: in the back issues, and he got him to a 516 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 2: National League Central championship. And congratulations to Pat Murphy. What 517 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: about dork for you? 518 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: Ken Well? I really like this guy, so this is 519 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: hard for me to make him dork. He is a 520 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: great interview, he is a great picture. But my goodness, 521 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: what the heck was Gary Cole doing intentionally walking? I 522 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: still do not understand this. I will never understand this. 523 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: He had not given up a hit to his first 524 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: ten hitters. I know Devers has an amazing history against 525 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: Garrett Cole, but he had a one nothing lead in 526 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: the fourth inning, and of course it all fell apart 527 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,679 Speaker 1: from there as it should have, as the baseball guys 528 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: took control Garrett Cole. There was a lot of confusion 529 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: at the end of this trying to everyone try to 530 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: get their story straight, and they didn't get their story straight. 531 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: But that was just an act of non competitiveness that 532 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: you don't expect to see from any major league You're 533 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: much less one of the best pictures in the game. 534 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 1: So Garret Cole dork of the week. I have a 535 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: good feeling that he's not going to do this again. 536 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of different feelings that stem from this. 537 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: Some were saying, there's no way the National or excuse me, 538 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: the American League reigning Siang Award winner or an ace 539 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 2: of his staff should be afraid of anybody. 540 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 3: You pitch to everyone. 541 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: You're an ace, the demonstrative four fingers up the whole, 542 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,360 Speaker 2: like you know, this is what I was like, what 543 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 2: is he doing? Then the lack of communication between he 544 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: and Boone lance Lynn on foul territory was like, that's 545 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: just my DNA is not like that. You just don't 546 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 2: walk a guy like that. Interesting interesting choice there, but 547 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: I can also understand why he's not going to do 548 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: that again. My dork of the week is the Seattle 549 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 2: Mariners base running blunders that continue to happen. This is 550 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 2: a team again, you told the Mariners fans to pipe down. 551 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 2: They're not going to get into the postseason. On Tuesday, 552 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 2: Victor Roeblis attempts to steal home with the bases loaded 553 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: and two outken in the first inning. Justin Turner was 554 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 2: at the plate, I believe, not sure. 555 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: What's happening there. 556 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 2: And then I mean, in a three to zero count, 557 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 2: bases loaded, two out in the first first inning of 558 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 2: the game, which I love, you know, I'm all for 559 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 2: the steal a home, but do it in the right situation. 560 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 2: And then on Wednesday, Julio Rodriguez gets caught off a 561 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 2: third in the tenth inning after the back comes flying 562 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 2: near him and he just said, you know what, I 563 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: saw that that flying up to my face. I just 564 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,679 Speaker 2: ran away from it. And after that I was just 565 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 2: in a little bit of shock. I didn't get back 566 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: to third base in time. After I saw the bat, 567 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 2: I thought it was going to be a dead play. 568 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 3: So, I mean, you. 569 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 2: Cannot make these mistakes can at any point in the season, 570 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 2: let alone when every single game is critical, every victory matters. 571 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 2: You're not mathematically eliminated, but man, mental errors will keep 572 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 2: a manager up at night and just want to want 573 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 2: to scream. 574 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: I would imagine I'm more forgiving of Julio's That was 575 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: a weird circumstance, and yes he should have been more 576 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: alert and gotten right back to the base, But that 577 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: was just a situation that many of the people involved, 578 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: including Boone, did not even anticipate or had ever seen before. 579 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: So I'll be a little bit forgiving of that one. 580 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: Heads up by the Yankees. Great job by Chisholm calling 581 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 1: for the ball there. And by the way, did you 582 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: see all the Yankee fans at t Mobile Park cheering? 583 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: It was like Yankee Stadium there. Always I'll be going 584 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: giving of Julio. But the one with Rollblis that was inexcusable. Man. 585 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: They had him three zero count Luis Hill cannot find 586 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: the plate and he tries to steal home. It was 587 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: just not an intelligently executed thought process. 588 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 2: Every single time you go to a game Ken, you're 589 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 2: going to see something that you've never seen before. And 590 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 2: the base running blenders that have happened over the course 591 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: of the last few days with the Mariners, I think 592 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: would qualify as that for us all right time now 593 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: to here from our friends at BETMGM, we always appreciate 594 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 2: the support here on fair territory. Before you go, let's 595 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 2: shout out bet MGM first bet fifteen hundred dollars offer 596 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: when you use the bonus code a foul. 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You're doing the game tonight. 607 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: You're spending your birthday with Phillies and Mets fans. What 608 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,480 Speaker 2: could be better than that? 609 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: Actually nothing? A lot of And this is a great 610 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 1: way to spend my birthday. And by the way, if 611 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: you're wondering how old I am, check my Wikipedia page. 612 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: If you're wondering how tall I am, check my Twitter bio. 613 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: You gotta do some war points and a lot of folks. Okay, 614 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: but yeah, I've got the game tonight. It is on Fox, 615 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: not in New York. In New York, it is on 616 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: WOOR because on Fox, the Jets game will be Yeah. Yes, 617 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: that's our plan for tonight. 618 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: All right, Jets and Patriots tonight on Thursday Night Football 619 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 2: on Amazon Prime. It is Ken's birthday. Also, happy third 620 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 2: birthday to my nephew Sawyer for a look. 621 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 3: Happy day. I appreciate it. That is important, Kenny. 622 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how old you are, but Sawyer's three, 623 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: so that takes prece more important. 624 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 3: Don't forget that. 625 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,440 Speaker 2: Britt Jeroli will continue the conversation about the article that 626 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 2: she intended on. 627 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 3: The Chicago White Sox. Fair ter Territory is over. Foul 628 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 3: Territory is next. 629 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: And by the way, a special programming note for you, Ken, 630 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: a new fresh Fat Fair Territory is. 631 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 3: On Tuesday of next week, not Monday. 632 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: That's true. 633 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 2: Thanks, all right, your social calendar is a little bit 634 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 2: busy on Monday. 635 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 3: Thanks for being with us here on Fair Territory. Have 636 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: a great week. We'll talk to you soon.