1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,440 Speaker 1: All right, second hour Play and Buck kicked off right now, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: and we are joined by Howie Kurtz. He is the 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: host of Media Buzz over on Fox News, and how 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: we appreciate you making the time for us. You've had 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: play on and me on many times in the past. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Great program you do there over at Fox. You're focus 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: on all the news, but obviously the media angle in particular. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: Let's start with this one. 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Have you been surprised at how the Democrat aligned or 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,519 Speaker 1: I should say more Democrat favorite, however you want to 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: put it. The CNNMSNBC industrial complex going after Trump on 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: the crime thing, even though some of their own Democrats 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: talking heads are saying this is not a winning issue 14 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: for US. 15 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: Guys a stun because there is this sort of knee 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 3: jerk reaction among media liberals that if it's Trump, it's 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: a police stay, he's an authoritarian. And yet you know, 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: numbers aside, we can argue about the numbers. I mean, 19 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: people here are scared. It's been a wave of carjackings. 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 3: There was sixteen carjackings in July alone, and that's scary stuff. 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 3: I know people that it's happened to, and so you 22 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 3: would think be a welcoming of some extra firepower, FBI, 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: National Guard and all of that, and instead a lot 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: of folks on the left are using it as an 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: opportunity to beat up on the president. 26 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: Are you, I mean, even by crazy anti Trump reflexive ideology. 27 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: I was surprised when Trump said, Hey, we're going to 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 4: surge resources in Washington, d C. I think it's hard 29 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: to argue the president doesn't have the constitutional authority to 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: do this based on where DC is. So it's not 31 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: LA so you don't really have a separation of powers 32 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 4: argument in some way. I was stunned by how aggressively 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 4: Democrats have come out and said, well, crime's not really 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 4: that bad. And to the credit of we like this 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: clip earlier, even like Joe Scarborough on MSNBC, quite a 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 4: few left leaning politician media have been willing to say, yeah, 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 4: this is actually not a argument to make crime is awful. 38 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 4: Are you surprised that typical Democrats, the Chuck Schumers of 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 4: the world, have really tried to fight Trump on this. 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 3: I am, well, if you Chuck Shuey, you've got like, 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 3: you know, twenty security agents surrounding you, right, he doesn't 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 3: have to worry. But yeah, I think Scarborough kind of 43 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 3: nails it, like he says, I talked to my Democratic friends, 44 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: and you know they're worried, and you know we can 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: get it to a debate about the numbers. And Trump says, 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 3: it's never been this bad, and actually it's down from 47 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 3: what it was last year. But who cares about the numbers. 48 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 3: The district of Columbia where I am now is the 49 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 3: fifth most dangerous in terms of violent crime in the country. 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 3: That's an embarrassment. It's a disgrace. And I get the 51 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 3: Home rule, but DC has always had limited Home rule powers. 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 3: And if this can help at all, and now Trump 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: wants to extend it beyond thirty days, why it makes 54 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 3: the Democrats appear like they don't really care about crime, 55 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: they only care about the politics of it. And I 56 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:19,959 Speaker 3: just think it's disgraceful. 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: What do you make of these allegations that Senator Adam 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: Shift approved leaking classified information to harm President Troum Powie. 59 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: I know you've been following this story. 60 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little hard for me to judge because 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 3: this is a whistleblower whose name we don't know, and 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: who first made these allegations several years ago. I do 63 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: think there's a little bit of a risk for the 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: president in that at the present moment, he seems to 65 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: be going after or having the Justice Department go after 66 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: a whole lot of his foot Atlantam he's and he's 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 3: not a fan of Shift, the Shift as he calls him. 68 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: But I think we have to take it seriously. And 69 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: I think there does seem to be an effort to 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: go after Letitia James and all of these people who 71 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: have basically tried to screw Trump over the years, I 72 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: think if you do too much of that, and you know, 73 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: it's not like the Justice Department just says, oh, hey, 74 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: let's go after Shift. You know, Trump is pushing him. 75 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 3: And the thing about Trump is like he's totally transparent 76 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 3: about it. He says the quiet part out loud. He says, 77 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 3: Barack Obama's guilty of treason. And you can agree, you 78 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: can disagree. But again coming back to the point that 79 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,239 Speaker 3: even if people don't like this president, I don't agree 80 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 3: with his policies, you've got to give him credit for 81 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 3: being aggressive on crime, on Putin and a whole bunch 82 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 3: of other things. 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: We're talking to Howard Kurtz. You're in d C. 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 4: Buck and I both have lived in DC. I went 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: to college there, Buck worked there. The Washington Post used 86 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 4: to dominate the city of Washington the way that very 87 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 4: few newspapers have ever dominated any city's overall media scene. 88 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: What how would you assess the Post and influence now? 89 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 4: How do you analyze what Jeff Bezos is trying to do? 90 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 4: How does the newspaper impact daily life in DC now 91 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 4: compared to how it might have in past generations. 92 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: That's a great question. Unfortunately, as an alumnus of the 93 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: paper back when it was not quite so blatantly left leaning, 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: almost all the stars have left and they're blaming Bezos. Now. 95 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 3: I understand, you know, they don't like the idea that 96 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 3: Bezos wants certain editorial stances on the editorial piece. That 97 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: is his prerogative as the owner. But as I've watched 98 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 3: one after another after another, people leave. Is just not 99 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 3: the paper it was. Plus, newspapers are not as influential 100 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 3: overall as they were. You know, the postal up with 101 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: some good scoops, but it is kind of sad. I mean, 102 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 3: I think, you know, radio shows and podcasts are now 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: the new media that drive a lot of coverage. But 104 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: you can't drive all your you know, your best investigative reporters, 105 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 3: your best people who cover these beats. You can't drive 106 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 3: them all away and still claim to have an influential newspaper. 107 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 3: It's it's a sad situation. And obviously the Washington Post 108 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: is not the only place that faces this. 109 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: Can they rebuild? I mean, did you look at a 110 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: place like CNN, Howie, which you know I was. I 111 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: was a conservative contributor there a decade ago, And as 112 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: I say to people, there were others Kaylee MCANENNI when 113 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: I was there was another. 114 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: She's an alumna of CNN. 115 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: But they would actually have conservatives on. I know they've 116 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: started to have Scott Jennings because they've really they can't 117 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: and a few others. They can't just do this total 118 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: echo chamber situation that they've had under Biden and Trump 119 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: before that. But is it possible to fix these brands? 120 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: Would it require a total overhaul? Do they just think 121 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: that people will forget and they'll slowly but surely move 122 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: more toward sanity. What do you think happens? 123 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: Like? 124 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: How can you advise a place as somebody who follows 125 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 1: the media closely, how do you advise a place like 126 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 1: CNN if you were asked to win back. I'm not 127 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: saying to get the conservative audience. I'm just saying to 128 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: be able to look people in the eye and say 129 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: we're actually a news network. 130 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: Again. 131 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: Well, sure, you can rebuild by going out and aggressively 132 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 3: hiring people and turning them loose. Same thing at the 133 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 3: Washington Post. But you got to be willing to spend 134 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 3: the money. Jeff Bezos, I, by my calculation, has a 135 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 3: lot of money. 136 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 2: So that's true. 137 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, Clay and I checked on that. Jeff Bezos got 138 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: a pack that as a fact check is accurate. 139 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but you got to be. 140 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: Willing to spend it. And you know, a lot of 141 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: places are just worried about their profit margins these days. 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: You know, the business model has kind of collapsed, especially 143 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 3: for a place like CNN. Yeah, it's like fifty liberals 144 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: and Scott Jennings. At least they have Scott Jennings. But 145 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: I think that a lot of these places just don't 146 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: get it, Like they bring in these new CEOs and 147 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 3: they just want to fatten the profit margins. Well, you know, 148 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: you've got to invest money in journalism in order to 149 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: have an audience. And if you don't do that, then 150 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 3: you're just kind of skating along. And it just seems 151 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: to me that the world has changed. Digital media has changed. 152 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: Everybody's got all this stuff on their phones, and you've 153 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: got to really rethink what you're doing because these places CNN, 154 00:08:54,720 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 3: I mean MSNBC as an example, when Trump announced the 155 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 3: crackdown on crime here in Washington, just completely went in 156 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 3: the opposition mode. No, he's not telling the truth. The 157 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 3: numbers are wrong. Well, it doesn't really matter if you're 158 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 3: being hard jacked. I know people this has happened to. 159 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 3: If people are afraid to walk the streets and then 160 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 3: you start arguing about numbers, it's just, you know, it's 161 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: like going into opposition mode. It's back into the resistance. 162 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 3: And I think that's what's happening with a number of 163 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 3: these mediats. 164 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 4: We're talking about, Howard Kurtz Media Buzz on Fox News 165 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,079 Speaker 4: every Sunday. Both Buck and I have been guests. Really 166 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: enjoy that you have the space to actually make arguments 167 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 4: on the show, to have real discussion. Thanks, and I 168 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 4: would suggest Howie that the discussion surrounding Trump and Putin 169 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 4: meeting tomorrow will likely be just an absolute mess because 170 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 4: of the past Russia collusion, the stories, and frankly much 171 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 4: of the hoax surround it. How can the media, if 172 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 4: people want to be informed, accurately cover anything happening with 173 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 4: Putin and Trump given all the mess of past Putin 174 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 4: Trump coverage, is there a way to actually do it 175 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 4: in a trustworthy manner at all? 176 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 3: Well, you guys should go do the show from Alaska. 177 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 3: That's number one, definitely, because. 178 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 2: Clay Clay actually is desperate. 179 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: I'm being serious, He's desperate to go to Alaska because 180 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: I told him it's if you like the outdoors and 181 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: natural beauty, it's it's it's increating. 182 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: I want to go. Once you see a grizzly bear 183 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 2: in real life, you're like, oh, that's very interesting. 184 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: We've got the governor, by the way, a little bit 185 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: of a tease here next hour of Alaska, who will 186 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 4: be with us talking about this situation? But how do 187 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 4: you cover it? Based on the failures of the media 188 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: in the past. 189 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: I think it has less to do with the media's 190 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: insane over coverage of you know, Russia, Russia, Russia than 191 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: it does with what appears to be happening. I mean, 192 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 3: a week ago, Trump was a gung hole about this, 193 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: and there has been a dramatic lowering of expectations where 194 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 3: he says, well, we'll have the first meeting, but it's 195 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: just a listening exercise, and if its first being goes well, 196 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 3: we'll get to the second meeting. He's also got Zelenski 197 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 3: not going along, So I think, you know, Trump loves 198 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: this sort of face to face negotiation, big TV spectacle 199 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 3: with world leaders. I did it with the King Juan Un, 200 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 3: for example. But he's got to have something to show 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 3: for it, and I think you know, he'll come out 202 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: and do the big joint press conference, and if it 203 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 3: looks like he's at least started a process where there 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: could be a cease fire in this brutal and bloody 205 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 3: war started by war criminal Vladimir Putin, then I think 206 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: he'll get good coverage. And if it looks like it's 207 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 3: just a small step and they haven't really done much, 208 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: then will the people in the press will question whether 209 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: it was worth fighting this dictator onto US soil. 210 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: No doubt appreciate you being with us, Howie. 211 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: Thanks for making the time and we'll see as soon 212 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: on Media Buzz on Fox News. 213 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:14,079 Speaker 3: Great to be here. 214 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: Thanks guys anytime. Yeah, I Alaska thing. Do you you 215 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: don't fish? 216 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 2: Do you clay? It's a good question, so U that's 217 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 2: usually not that's usually not. 218 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: Well. 219 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: I mean I feel like you can't be a like 220 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 4: deletant fisherman, if that makes sense, because the people who 221 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 4: do fish are very very serious about it, and so 222 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 4: if you say, well, yeah, I like to fish, and 223 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 4: then they're like, what lures do you use? Well, So 224 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 4: I grew up My grandfather and uncle fished all the time. 225 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 4: It was their favorite thing. So I grew up going 226 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 4: out with them and fishing a lot. I have tried 227 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 4: to take my boys out when we go down to 228 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 4: the Gulf Coast to get out and fish. And we 229 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 4: have a lot of lakes in my neighborhood that people 230 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: maybe ponds is more accurate to describe it, but they're 231 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: stocked and you have to throw the fish back. But 232 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 4: my kids have enjoyed doing that so occasionally. But I 233 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: feel like fishing is one of those things that you 234 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 4: can't say you did occasionally. You either live and die 235 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 4: fishing or you never do it. But I do wish 236 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 4: if I went to Alaska, I would fish. I mean, 237 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 4: I went and learned how to h what's the fly fish? 238 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: I learned how to fly fish with buddies. We went 239 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 4: and did that. So if I went to Alaska, I 240 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 4: think I would fish for salmon. Answer your question, Yeah, 241 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 4: I think it's I think it's something you'd have to do. 242 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 4: I've done it before, and I tried a little fly like. 243 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 4: I also think this spinning, I think it's called spinning reel. 244 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 4: I'm a I'm not even an advanced beginner. I'm a 245 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 4: fishing beginner. I grew up fishing with my dad, who 246 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 4: is a fisherman and can do all the lures and 247 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 4: the stuff, and you know, he's been fishing all over 248 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 4: the world that he would just bring me and I 249 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 4: never got good at it. So he's to your point, 250 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: he's a fisherman. I'm somebody who's come along fishing with 251 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 4: him many times. But spinning reel versus fly fly to 252 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 4: me is a whole other you know. This is like, uh, 253 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: like the difference between bow hunting and rifle, you know, 254 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: and using a rifle. It's a big, big step up 255 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: in terms of the technique in the time. But yeah, 256 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 4: it's just awesome to be out there and see that 257 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 4: I've done. I think I told you this. I went 258 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 4: deep sea fishing for shark. I have caught a what 259 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 4: is the sailfish? I've been deep sea fishing for those 260 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 4: big you know sailfish. You can't keep them, but you 261 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: catch swordfish. 262 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah. 263 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: And and we took the boys out recently and did 264 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: red snapper, which is down on the Gulf. There's tons 265 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 4: of red snapping fishing. That was really really fun, and 266 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 4: we ate a lot of red snap. 267 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: I think I know more about which fish to eat 268 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: because I ordered off menus then I do. 269 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 2: How to catch them. 270 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: But fair enough, years ago, new laws put you in 271 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: control of your retirement accounts. As you know, Congress saw 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: the changes in employment tenure and the trend in a 273 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: establishment companies losing pension funds. We all learned what a 274 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: four oh one k and ira was and how to 275 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: maximize their potential. 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I appreciate 297 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 4: all of you hanging out with us. We got some talkbacks. 298 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 4: Let's see here. Steve is upset in Orange County because 299 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 4: I keep saying the word, according to him, fabulous. 300 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: Uh, Clay fire away and this is Steven in Orange County, California. 301 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: Hey man, I'm just trying to help you out, but 302 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 1: if you really want to stop being an unk, you 303 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: need to quit trying to channel Patsy Stone. 304 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 2: You say fabulous way too much. 305 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 3: Pal. 306 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 6: Thanks for all you guys do, but Clay, get. 307 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: Yourself in order it. 308 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 4: I don't even understand is that saying that it's an 309 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 4: old man thing to say fabulous or what word? 310 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: And I don't understand. I didn't quite understand the dunk. 311 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: It was definitely a dunk attack or dunk attempt, but 312 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that I really understood the dunk. I 313 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: would say this, you're what was the word that somebody 314 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: pointed out, because that you definitely do. But that's a 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Tennessee thing you say, uh, appreciate, you appreciate. 316 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, well that's an accents, that's a clay that's an 317 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 4: access that I don't know about the word choice thing 318 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 4: with fabulous, I do not, no doubt is a Clay 319 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: word choice. 320 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 2: I don't know. 321 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 4: That fabulous is a Clay word choice. I I haven't 322 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 4: noticed that. I say fabulous very much. But I don't 323 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: even understand. The criticism was that that is an old 324 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 4: man word or it's a young person's word, and I'm trying. 325 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 4: I don't even understand. 326 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: You. 327 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 2: You got to be better at your criticism, Steve Joe. 328 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: One of my favorite Clay Travis boys story is when 329 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: they called you an unk because I got to learn 330 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: that word and laugh at it at the same time. 331 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 4: So that was good for They come after me, call 332 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 4: me an unk all the time. Joe and Claremont, Florida. 333 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 4: What you got for us? 334 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 335 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 2: What kind of sandwich was it? Anyway? Remember you can 336 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: indicte a ham sandwich. Let's see. 337 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 4: Oh, now there's a dad joke? 338 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 3: Was it? 339 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: I appreciate it can, in fact indicte a ham sandwich. 340 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 4: And I want to tell you all about rapid or 341 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 4: eighty os. You want to be able to stay in 342 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 4: touch with your ones even if you have some sort 343 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: of catastrophe that strikes wrent to a hurricane. 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All right, 357 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 4: welcome back in here to Clay and Bucks. Thanks for 358 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: being with us. 359 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 2: Everybody. As always, senisor talkback. 360 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: Do a lot of talkbacks coming in on a whole 361 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: range of topics and we will get to those shortly. 362 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: I just want to note this was interesting. Milania Trump 363 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,679 Speaker 1: has sued Hunter Biden for a billion dollars. 364 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 4: You see this, Clay, Yeah, you should ask Carol Markowitz 365 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: about it because she is sitting about to talk with us. 366 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 2: That was exactly I was up. Thank you. 367 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz joins us now of the clam Buck podcast 368 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 1: network and she got to hear my intro of the 369 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: Milania lawsuit. 370 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: But you know what, Carol, first of all, thanks for 371 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 2: being with us at the Carol Markowitz Show. 372 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: You were just traveling abroad as we saw public as 373 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: I saw on Instagram. So I don't think I'm giving 374 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: away any secrets. Where were you and what was your 375 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: favorite place? 376 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 6: I was in France. My middle son, who's twelve years old, 377 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 6: had a week long history competition in Paris. He came 378 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 6: home with a silver and bronze medal representing Florida. 379 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: So very proud of this was by the way, didn't 380 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: you quiz us on some of the things that I mean? 381 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: This is like not hey, what year was Louisiana purchased 382 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 4: style history? This is like super nerd history stuff. 383 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 6: Right, It's really hard, Like I don't know anything at 384 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 6: his competitions and his international ones, like in his regional ones, 385 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 6: I'll have some answers. 386 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, I would like to say that if Clay 387 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: and I teamed up, we would be able to give 388 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,640 Speaker 1: him a run for his money. But I think I've 389 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: already suffered maybe a little overconfidence lately on something, so 390 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: I might have to might have to dial that back 391 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: and say, I think your boy heard. 392 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: About a thousand mile an hour tennis swing. 393 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: Well no, no, no, no, no, not a thousand. Definitely, 394 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: that's definitely not gonna happen. We're looking for a hundred. 395 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: We're looking for a hundred, and you know this is good. 396 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of like a middle aged guy 397 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: reality check. I might have to do a little bit 398 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: of lifting for a couple of weeks year. I you know, 399 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make this happen one way or another. 400 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: This is like, this is like somebody who's who's decided 401 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna dunk a dunk of basketball once. Not that 402 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: they're an NBA player, but they will get to a 403 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: place where they can one time dunk a basketball. 404 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 2: That's kind of how I view it. Yeah, So all 405 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,679 Speaker 2: the people who are like are like, pro serve one 406 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five. 407 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a middle age radio host who plays 408 00:20:58,680 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: tennis like twice a month. 409 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 2: Ever. Needs to calm down. 410 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: But but here we go with let's get back to 411 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden for one second year. This is this is 412 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: his response to the suit for Malania Trump. 413 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: Play one, Ladies and gentlemen. The day of presidential litigation 414 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 7: has arrived. It's lawsuit time. In my hand is a 415 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 7: legal demand letter addressed to mister Hunter Biden from the 416 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 7: First Lady of the United States, demanding a retraction of 417 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 7: Channel five's video called Hunter Biden Returns, on which mister 418 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 7: Biden here makes some speculative comments about the relationship between 419 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 7: Jeffrey Epstein, Milania Trump, and Donald Trump. He didn't make 420 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 7: these claims out of nowhere. They come from another journalist 421 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 7: named Michael Wolfe, who is a biographer that actually spoke 422 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 7: to Jeffrey Epstein. But now here we are, and I've 423 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 7: got a billion dollar document in my hands because Missus 424 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 7: Trump is seeking one billion dollars in damages if we 425 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 7: don't take the video down and if Hunter here doesn't 426 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 7: issue a formal apology to Missus Trump. So now we're 427 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 7: here maybe to give you the platform to apologize to 428 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 7: the first Lady for your statements that you made about 429 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 7: her possible connection to Jeffrey Epstein. 430 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 2: Fat that's not going to happen. 431 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 3: WHOA. 432 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: So it looks like, see here's the thing. Is it 433 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: tough guy, Hunter? Or is it this guy's got nothing 434 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: to lose? And I mean quite literally, like what cash 435 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: does he have? 436 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: Anyway? What do you make of this? 437 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 6: Well, I think like three Hunter Biden paintings should cover 438 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 6: that billion. And that's the price they used to go 439 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 6: for when his dad was president. I don't know if 440 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 6: that's still the rate of those paintings today. I love 441 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 6: the Milania is doing this. This is a new era 442 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 6: of Milania Trump where she just doesn't take anything from anyone. 443 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 6: Love that she's going after him, Love that she's defending 444 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 6: herself and her husband. It's really I love to see it. 445 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,360 Speaker 6: I think it's great, and I just it's a perfect 446 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,400 Speaker 6: way for her to say, you will not be spreading 447 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 6: lives about me. You will not be telling tales about me. 448 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 6: Don't think you can get away with it just because 449 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 6: you know your dad was president. 450 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,479 Speaker 4: We and Trump it took over the entire news cycle 451 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: this week by deciding that he was going to lower 452 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 4: the crime rate in DC and that it was unacceptable. 453 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 4: I still remain stunned that Democrats have fallen for the 454 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 4: crime is not actually that bad or uh, this is 455 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 4: totally unnecessary, angle are you? I mean, because it seems 456 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: so tone deaf. Even Joe Scarborough called him out today 457 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: on MSNBC and said, look, ninety one percent of DC 458 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 4: residents say crime is a big problem. I think trying 459 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: to lower crime is not particularly political. I mean, it's 460 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 4: crazy to me that they took the tack that they did. 461 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: It is insane. And you know, look, when I left 462 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 6: New York three years ago, it was partially because crime 463 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 6: was getting bad, and that was just a part of it. 464 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 6: But the real thing was that nobody would admit it. 465 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 6: Like when you said to your you know, on a 466 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 6: neighborhood chat on a one of those boards online, Hey, 467 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 6: I'm getting worried crime is getting bad. All the responses 468 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 6: would be like, no, what are you talking about. Crime 469 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 6: is not getting bad. You're being lied to by Fox 470 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 6: News and et cetera. It was a very standard thing 471 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,199 Speaker 6: to deny that anything was happening, and that's what the 472 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 6: media people are used to. They're used to just saying 473 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 6: we can't admit this is happening. If we admit this 474 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 6: is happening, that means our philosophy of governing has failed. 475 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 6: And that's exactly what it is. 476 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 3: Actually. 477 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 6: It's the fact that when democrats are in charge and 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,880 Speaker 6: they make crime basically legal, crime goes up, and that's 479 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 6: the way it goes. So I'm not at all surprised 480 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 6: that that's where the media went In twenty twenty when 481 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 6: the riots were going on, tons of media people would say, Oh, 482 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 6: I'm meeting a burrito in this park and I don't 483 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 6: see any rioters here, and that was what they went 484 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 6: with as a argument for don't worry about this. American 485 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 6: people are too smart for that. At this point, even 486 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 6: the mayor of DC is welcoming the help. So I 487 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 6: think the media has found itself really out of step 488 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 6: with the American public. 489 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: Yet again, it reminded us Carol Clinton. I talked about 490 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: a couple days ago of the Obrago Garcia moment where 491 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: everyone on CNM was. 492 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: Like, can you believe that this alleged, alleged. 493 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: MS thirteen gang member involved in human trafficking and one 494 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,639 Speaker 1: of the most violent and horrific gangs in America, who's 495 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: definitely an illegal was deported from this country. 496 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 2: What kind of a country is this? 497 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: Everyone's looking around like that sounds like a great idea, Like, 498 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? 499 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: They completely lit themselves on fire with that one. 500 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 6: Yep, yeah, that's right. They just keep thinking that it's 501 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 6: twenty twenty and they can get away with saying this 502 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 6: kind of thing, and the American people will just, you know, 503 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 6: be too afraid to admit that there's a problem here 504 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 6: with legal immigration or any of it. And I just 505 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: think Americans have had enough. They had five years of 506 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 6: you were not allowed to say what you're really thinking, 507 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,120 Speaker 6: and you had to monitor your language, and you weren't 508 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 6: allowed to have certain opinions. And now they're free, and 509 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 6: there's a vibe shift and Donald Trump's president, and they're 510 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 6: not having it anymore. 511 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: Where do we go from here with the Friday meeting 512 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 4: between Putin and Trump? We were just talking with Howard Kurtz, 513 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 4: who does the media buzz I actually think? Because of 514 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 4: all the Russia collusion laws, it makes media coverage of 515 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 4: any meeting between Trump and Putin almost impossible because they 516 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 4: failed to analyze honestly this relationship for so long that 517 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: even saying something honest today would feel boy who cries wolf? 518 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 4: So how should the media at large approach this meeting 519 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: face to face between Trump and Putin? And how do 520 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 4: you think they will compared to what they should do? 521 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 6: So I think that they should approach it as Donald 522 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 6: Trump wants to help and bloodshed. He wants to help 523 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 6: end a war that has been going on for a 524 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 6: long time, and in a lot of ways it has 525 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 6: been at a stalemate where people are dying needlessly. How 526 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 6: they will cover it is that Trump is Putin's stooge 527 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 6: and he's in his pocket, and any kind of concession 528 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 6: to Putin at all would be, you know, just the 529 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 6: absolute worst thing that could ever happen. Now. I am 530 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 6: not a fan of Russia. I was born in Russia. 531 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 6: I have no love for the place. I am very 532 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 6: anti Putin. So I say this as somebody who you know, 533 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 6: if I could wave my magic wand Ukraine wins today 534 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 6: and that's it. But that's not what we have. We 535 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 6: have an ongoing war of people from both sides have 536 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 6: been dying at astonishing rates for years now. So if 537 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 6: Donald Trump can bring an end to this, that should 538 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 6: be what the media would want. They should want a 539 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 6: win for Donald Trump because that win means a win 540 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 6: for the Russian people, for the Ukrainian people, and for 541 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 6: America to be able to play that role on the 542 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 6: world stage. You know, in twenty twenty five. 543 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: Carol, we haven't had a chance to talking about this 544 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: yet on the show, but there's been far It's been 545 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: less coverage of it lately, but for a couple of 546 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: weeks there in particular, there was this very widespread and 547 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: not just among the usual like globalized, the Intofada, left 548 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: wing people who hate, you know, everything Israel does is terrible. 549 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: America's on puppet strings with Israel pulling all that all that, right, 550 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about those people, we can. 551 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: We know where they are on this. 552 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm the ones who were calling for a ceasefire on 553 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 1: October eighth, you know, like then that's that's a separate thing. 554 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,200 Speaker 1: There were people on the right, though, who were also 555 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: very loud about an intentional starvation campaign in Gaza, and 556 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: intentional Now Netan Yahoo has said this is of course 557 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: he's the he's the Prime Minister of Israel, so we 558 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: know what he's gonna say. But he has come out 559 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: very clearly and said, look, there's been some shortages. There's 560 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: no campaign of starvation. If we wanted to, we could 561 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: just kill everybody in Gaza in a day. Obviously, we're 562 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: trying to feed them. 563 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: What what do you like? 564 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 1: How did this get to the point where so many 565 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: people thought that they were bringing a quote genocide and 566 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: a quote famine to the to the place where they 567 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: thought that that was actually what was going on, including 568 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: people on the right. 569 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 6: I've been referring to those people as marks, and that's 570 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 6: what they are. They're the marks for this kind of propaganda. 571 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 6: They fell for a picture on the cover of The 572 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 6: New York Times of a starving child in Gaza, who obviously, 573 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 6: and you didn't need me to know very much about 574 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 6: the conflict to know that The New York Times is 575 00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 6: lying here the obviously this child had some mother issues. 576 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 6: His overweight mother is holding him, and they cut his 577 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 6: healthy looking brother out of the picture. But you know, 578 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 6: anytime you see a well fed mom and a starving baby, 579 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 6: understand that you're being lied to. There's not a mom 580 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 6: in the world who's not going to feed her child 581 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 6: before herself. So you know, I was actually in France 582 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 6: when that story broke. It set me so much because 583 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 6: I saw kind of people that I think are good people, 584 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 6: but like, I'll never ever look at them the same 585 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 6: way again because they fell for the story. Like how 586 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 6: dumb do you need to be to believe the New 587 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 6: York Times propaganda on this kind of stuff, And the 588 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 6: idea that Israel star of the population of Gaza is 589 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 6: so ridiculous. 590 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: If you know. 591 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 6: Anything about israelis israelis care far more about the Palestinians, 592 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 6: and the Palestinian leadership cares about the Palestinians, so it's 593 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 6: definitely not reality. Israel is continually sending aid, which you know, frankly, 594 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: I don't think is the right thing to do in 595 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 6: a lot of the cases in war to send aid 596 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 6: to your enemy. But this is the situation that Israel 597 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 6: finds itself in They're expected to do insane things, to 598 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 6: go above and beyond, to do things that no other 599 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 6: country would do, to get the most minimum support. And 600 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 6: still all these countries around the world are recognizing some 601 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 6: state of Palestine to reward the Palestinians and Hamas who 602 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 6: did October seventh. They win if that's the case, they win, 603 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 6: if they get a state at the end of this. 604 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 6: It's really sad, and I really was very just disheartened 605 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 6: to see people on the right be the marks for 606 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 6: this kind of propaganda. And I hope they don't continue 607 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 6: to fall for things, but I'll never trust those people again. 608 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 4: We're talking to Carol Markowitz, New York Posts. Last question 609 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 4: for you, Carol, I had a funny one because Denzel 610 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 4: Washington went off on the went off on the Cowboys, 611 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: and I know your husband's a big Cowboys fan and 612 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 4: your sons and you know they're never gonna win anything, 613 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 4: and I understand why that's tough. 614 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 6: Hey Titans fan, all right, yeah, well. 615 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 4: We don't even attempt to try to defend the Titans 616 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 4: at this point. But on a more interesting note, I 617 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 4: thought you lived in New York City like Buck for 618 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 4: a long time, Buck and I have debated how people 619 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 4: who are not Mom Donnie supporters and people who truly 620 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 4: think that he would be an awful choice should handle this, 621 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 4: and I took the tack of, hey, you know what 622 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 4: sucks for New York City, but at least if he wins, 623 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 4: that's a for nationwide for the midterms next year. He 624 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 4: is a face of socialism, face of communism. New York's 625 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 4: gonna suffer, but the rest of the country might be 626 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 4: more likely to vote against Democrats. Are you in that 627 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: camp or are you in the camp of we have 628 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 4: to do everything we can to save Democrats from themselves. 629 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 6: Ooh so tough, because I really am between it, because 630 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 6: I have families still in New York who all are 631 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 6: trying to vote themselves to sanity, but keep having the 632 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 6: roadblock of this kind of thing come up. I think 633 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 6: if he wins, he will be the poster child for 634 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 6: Republicans going into the midroom saying, look what happened you 635 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 6: look at this guy. But because Trump has done such 636 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 6: an incredible job on the border, the New York City 637 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 6: just closed its last migrant hotel because they simply don't 638 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 6: have enough people coming in anymore. So he might be 639 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 6: able to skate for a little while and make it 640 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 6: seem like New York's really not doing that bad under 641 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 6: his leadership. I'm a little worried about the strategy of 642 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 6: using him in that case, because I really do think 643 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 6: he can make it seem like New York is doing 644 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 6: just fine. And look all the hysterics. You know, we're 645 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 6: so wrong about how I was going to go. 646 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: But Carol just jump in. That's what the Glasio inheriting exactly. 647 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: A great situation from for the first, you know, three 648 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: or four years of the blog was what are you 649 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: guys talking about? The city's super safe, everything's great, and 650 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: we kept saying, your policies are moronic. 651 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 2: It's going to get bad. It's going to get bad. 652 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: And then by the time it all got really bad, 653 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: it was too late to just sort of turn the 654 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: spigot off and it was a mess. 655 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 6: Exactly. So, Mom, Donnie has a very similar situation where 656 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 6: the police chief Tish is very respected among police officers, 657 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 6: she's doing a great job, murder rate is way down, 658 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 6: so he might be able to carry that kind of wind, 659 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 6: which is funny that Eric Adams can't run on it successfully. 660 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 6: He brought murder rates down to a very low level 661 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 6: in New York City. He should be proud of that. 662 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 6: He should be running on that, but I don't even 663 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 6: know where he is. So it's interesting because it's exactly 664 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 6: that same situation as Glasio. He might be able to 665 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 6: just make it appear that look nothing bad has gone 666 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 6: on under my leadership, but we know from the Deblasio 667 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 6: years that that simply can't last. It might be after 668 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 6: the midterms, though, so I'd be wary of him being 669 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 6: the mayor. 670 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 4: Carol outstanding stuff as always, appreciation coming on. Encourage everybody 671 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 4: to sign up for the podcast. I think I'll be 672 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: your guest next week. So there you go. That's something 673 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: to be fun. 674 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 6: Thanks so much, Clays. 675 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 4: All right, thank you for coming on with us. That's 676 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 4: Carol Markwitz, New York Post. Let's save some money for 677 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: everybody right now. Thousand bucks over the course of a 678 00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 4: year if you make the switch right now to a 679 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,720 Speaker 4: new cell phone provider, and that cell phone provider should 680 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 4: be Puretalk twenty five bucks a month, unlimited talk, text, 681 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 4: whole lot of data. That's pretty unbelievable. They haven't raised 682 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 4: that twenty five dollars a month price in a very 683 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 4: long time. Puretalk uses the same five G network, same 684 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 4: five G towers as one of those three companies. 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Get 694 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 4: hooked up today. 695 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 5: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 696 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 5: claim your sanity with Clay and Fun. Find them on 697 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 5: the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. 698 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 4: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. All right, 699 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 4: final hour of the show coming up here in just 700 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 4: a bit. We're gonna have some fun with some of 701 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 4: your talkbacks. Orlando is reacting the guy called in trying 702 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 4: to dunk on me for using the word fabulous too often. 703 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 4: He's trying to analyze it too. By the way, Trump 704 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 4: is talking live about the ninetieth anniversary of Social Security 705 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 4: in the Oval Office. We will bring you some of 706 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,240 Speaker 4: those cuts when we come back in the next hour. 707 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 2: But here is. 708 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 4: Pia from Orlando, Florida. 709 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 8: What you got, Hi, guys, I just found it interesting 710 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 8: that some guy was trying to dunk on Clay for 711 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 8: apparently saying fabulous and he said that he sounded like 712 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,920 Speaker 8: Patsy Stoned. But last time I checked, the only people 713 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 8: who know who Patsy Stone is are people who watch 714 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 8: Absolutely Fabulous or ab fab which are mostly women and 715 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 8: gay men. 716 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 2: Wow. 717 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 4: I didn't see that coming the way. She just like 718 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: subtly sliced him to death there at the end. With 719 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 4: that final sentence, Pia just said, basically, Hey, that guy 720 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 4: who is making fun of you is either gay or 721 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 4: a woman. And wow, just out of nowhere, a visceration. 722 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 4: When we come back. Speaking of a visceration, tennis pros 723 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,799 Speaker 4: are weighing in on Bucks Serve, Andy Roddick, John is Nerve, 724 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 4: like the tennis pros, not just American tennis players, will 725 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,240 Speaker 4: tell you what they said.