WEBVTT - Why Free Speech Costs More When You’re Black 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.360 Native Lampod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.480 --> 0:00:04.920 Resent Choice Media. 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:07.680 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.360 --> 0:00:11.040 Welcome, Welcome home. Y'all, this is episode ninety eight of 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.960 Native Lampod, where we give you our breakdown of all 0:00:14.040 --> 0:00:17.040 things politics and culture. We are your hosts, Angela Rae, 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:19.800 Tiffany Cross, and Andrew gillim. Y'all, what are we getting 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:22.119 into today? 0:00:22.600 --> 0:00:25.840 Well, I'm excited because we have two guests coming up, 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:30.440 Karen Attia, the former reporter now former reporter for the 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:37.000 Washington Post, and Ebanie McMorris, who was quite disrespected in 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:40.360 the Lighthouse this month by the President. So we're going 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:44.000 to get into both of those topics with them. 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:44.880 Andrew Rich, You've. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:48.879 Got well, I think we've got to got to revisit, 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:51.200 or rather visit for the first time on the show, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.640 what went down with Jimmy Kimmel. More important, I think 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:57.840 our First Amendment rights here in the country being threatened 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.840 by federal government employees. So we'd love to dig into 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:03.400 that a little bit. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.720 Yes, and of course we have talked about Charlie Kirk, 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:09.880 but what we have not talked about is the Charlie 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:12.560 Kirk resolution on the House floor last week and a 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:15.800 surprising vote. We'll hear sound from Jasmine Crockett and talk 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:17.600 about that a little bit, so let's get into it. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:18.520 Welcome home, y'all. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.080 Native lampod will be live this weekend. I hope you 0:01:25.120 --> 0:01:27.160 all tuned in. Last year, we did a live show 0:01:27.200 --> 0:01:30.760 from the Phoenix Awards dinner at the Annual Legislative Conference 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:34.720 with my old CBC fam. We'll be there on Saturday, 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.039 September twenty seventh from five pm to seven pm Eastern. 0:01:38.120 --> 0:01:40.160 We are going to have some great guests. I cannot 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.280 wait to see what Andrew and Tiff have on. It's 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:43.720 gonna be. 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.720 A fashion show for the god y'all. 0:01:46.720 --> 0:01:49.280 But we will definitely be there right before the dinner. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:51.200 It is a black tie event, so we will be 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:54.600 a fancy. We will be fancy, and we have some 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:57.240 special announcement. You'll definitely want to tune in then, which 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:58.640 y'all got what you guys think about this? 0:01:58.800 --> 0:01:59.320 You excited? 0:01:59.520 --> 0:01:59.960 I'm excited. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:03.080 It's always exciting to be with the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. 0:02:03.160 --> 0:02:05.080 A lot of people say CBC week it is the 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:09.200 Congressional Black Caucus Foundations Annual Legislative Conference. I'm curious to 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:10.960 see what the crowds would be like given the federal 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:15.520 takeover of DC. Are people excited to come? Will it 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:19.119 be a bigger crowd than ever, or you know, will 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.400 the federal government scare people away. I think Angela, you 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.440 had some insight and that they ain't scared, and they 0:02:23.440 --> 0:02:25.880 said we ready, and they're showing up by the droves. 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:27.760 I'm looking forward to seeing a lot of the folks here. 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:32.120 It's been rumored that they've got pretty large RSVP and 0:02:32.200 --> 0:02:36.080 registrations for the conference this year, so black folks are like, 0:02:36.160 --> 0:02:40.440 I ain't scared, you don't terrify me, and let's hope 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:42.280 that that is true. I think it'll be a good week. 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.359 It's always good to reconnect with folks who are out 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.680 here working in the movement space from around the country. 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.359 And please do not get your expectations off of my wardrobe. 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:54.680 I promise you that, but I do plan and enjoy. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.680 It well good. 0:02:55.720 --> 0:02:57.400 Just so you all know, to be clear, it is 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.320 going to be a live show. It'll be live on 0:02:59.400 --> 0:03:01.960 YouTube and can also of course catch that replay in 0:03:02.000 --> 0:03:05.240 our podcast Beat. If you haven't subscribed yet, subscribe now. 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:06.440 It's a good time to do that. 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:12.360 Congressman. Congressman Charlie Kirk said that Charlie Kirk said that 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:15.800 MLK was a terrible person, and you voted to honor 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.120 Charlie Kirk. Why did you vote to honor Charlie Kirk 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.600 who said MLK was a terrible person. I voted civil 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:23.880 rights and voted to can't condemn plant violence. But he 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:28.200 was called honor Charlie Kirk Act. So you can do 0:03:28.240 --> 0:03:30.520 a little fake screaming votes you did is we disrespected 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.760 a lot of people had damn And what do you 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:34.880 saying about Simone? What do you say about someone vials? 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:38.680 He said Simon Biles was a sociopath. 0:03:38.080 --> 0:03:41.000 For sitting at the Olympics after she had been sexually assaulted. 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:44.200 Now's what Charlie Kirk said, And you voted to honor 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:48.600 him on your other colleague standing up. Okay, So your 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.160 other times you're voting against. 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:50.480 It were wrong. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:56.760 And so Charlie k apparently had said that at the 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:58.960 Civil Rights Act was a mistake. Why did you vote 0:03:58.960 --> 0:03:59.560 to honor him. 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.120 I did not vote to honor them. 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:06.600 I quoted against political violence, so that vote was against violence. 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:18.440 The name of the bill is like honor Charlie Hirk. 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:16.040 You voted and political violence. 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:18.560 Wow. 0:04:18.720 --> 0:04:21.120 So what I think is very important about this, and 0:04:21.160 --> 0:04:24.680 I'd love to hear you all thoughts, is we often 0:04:24.760 --> 0:04:27.279 get asked what people can do at home, and I 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:30.400 think this clip is a remarkable, remarkable example of how 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.279 you can hold elected officials accountable even when they're not 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.000 used to it and they might get upset. In case 0:04:37.040 --> 0:04:40.280 you all missed it, on this resolution, which is HRS 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:45.159 seven nineteen, which is House Resolution seven nineteen honoring Charlie Kirk, 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:51.400 both Judy Chu and Ted lou they've been tremendous fighters. 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.760 They voted yes on this amendment though. And so I 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:56.839 want to get into one more piece of sound, y'all 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.440 before we weigh in writ large and it is sound 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.839 from Dana Bash his interview with Jasmine Crockett, and I 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:05.800 want to get to this clip here to talk about 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:06.719 the resolution as well. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.480 On that note, I do want to turn to something 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:13.640 that you heard the Senator just say, which is he 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:17.000 was talking about a resolution that came before the House 0:05:17.200 --> 0:05:21.839 this past week honoring Charlie Kirk, and there were fifty 0:05:21.839 --> 0:05:25.600 eight Democrats who voted against it. You were one, Yeah, why. Absolutely. 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.120 One of the things I do want to point out 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:31.320 that's not been laid out that honestly hurts my heart 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.800 is when I saw the no votes, there were only 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:36.520 two Caucasians. For the most part, the only people that 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.720 voted no were people of color because the rhetoric that 0:05:39.839 --> 0:05:44.680 Charlie Kirk continuously put out there was rhetoric that specifically 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.680 targeted people of color, and so it is unfortunate that 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:52.320 even our colleagues could not see how harmful his rhetoric 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:55.800 was specifically to us. And I can tell you that 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.280 a month prior to him passing away, he had actually 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.720 gotten out on his podcast. I wasn't aware of this 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.160 at the time, but he got out there and he 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:07.919 was talking negatively about me directly. So if there was 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:10.279 any way that I was going to honor somebody who 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:13.000 decided that they were just going to negatively talk about 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.279 me and proclaim that I was somehow involved in the 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.359 great white replacement, yeah, I'm not honoring that kind of stuff, 0:06:20.400 --> 0:06:24.200 especially as a civil rights attorney and understanding how I 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:26.919 got to Congress knowing that there were people that died, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.920 people that were willing to die, that worked to make 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:33.400 sure that voices like mine could exist in this place, 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.239 so to me, just like we wanted to make sure 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:40.440 that those Confederate relics were taken down. The idea of 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.359 a new Age relic being propped up was something that 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.120 I just could not subscribe to. And it is unfortunate 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.719 that more of my colleagues, even on my side of 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:52.520 the aisle, could not see the amount of harm that 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.880 this man was attempting to inflict upon our communities. 0:06:56.600 --> 0:06:59.760 I wanted to just flag two portions. We've heard you 0:06:59.800 --> 0:07:02.960 all about making sure that we lean into what we 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:05.520 know about what happened on Capitol Hill, and there's two 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.560 pieces in this resolution that I just wanted to call out, 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:12.680 in part because I don't know if my co hosts 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:16.720 have seen this, but there were two provisions whereas Charlie 0:07:16.800 --> 0:07:19.520 Kirk would not have us respond to his death with despair, 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:24.760 but rather with renewed purpose, to speak truth, with courage, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.360 to stand firm and faith, to seek unity while standing 0:07:28.400 --> 0:07:32.080 firm and principle, and to serve as living reminders of 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:37.120 the values he championed, faith, family, and freedom. Now therefore 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.000 be it resolved, And I'm just going to skip down 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:44.120 to sub section four of the resolution honors the life, 0:07:44.480 --> 0:07:50.080 leadership and legacy of Charlie Kirk, who steadfast dedication to 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:56.040 the Constitution, civil discourse, and biblical truth inspired a generation 0:07:56.240 --> 0:08:01.200 to cherish and defend the blessing, the blessings of liberty. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:03.720 I just. 0:08:05.680 --> 0:08:07.080 I think that it would be good for us to 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:09.200 talk about why there were only fifty eight no's on 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:10.200 this vote, just for. 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:11.680 Some context for a few years. I know you said 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:14.640 their names, but two members we heard from were Congresswoman 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:20.200 Judy Chu, a former chair of the Congressional Asian American 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:25.080 Asian Specific American Caucus, and Congressmen Ted Lou. Both of 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:28.800 them are part of the California delegation. Judy two represents 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.840 California's thirty second district. Congressmen Ted Lou represents California's thirty 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.320 sixth district. The reason why I think that's important context 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.600 for the audience is because they are not in a 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:41.080 purple state. They are not in purple districts, their seats 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:44.480 are not in danger. So oftentimes, not that this is 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.400 an excuse, but oftentimes people will take these somewhat controversial 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.600 votes because they're afraid that their seats might be in danger. 0:08:51.760 --> 0:08:55.959 That is not the case with either of these two members, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:59.800 especially being part of the Tricaucus. I think it was 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.679 disheartening to see Congressman Ted lou who you know I've 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.640 had on my show before and had a good working 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.960 relationship with previously. It's disheartening to see them join the 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.040 rest of some of the members of the Tricocus who folded. 0:09:14.520 --> 0:09:15.240 I look. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.840 I think what our audience has been most vocal about 0:09:18.240 --> 0:09:21.720 is our is the black community, and how angry and 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.480 disappointed people were to see the most senior Black person 0:09:26.120 --> 0:09:28.839 in the House, Congressman Hakeem Jeffries, who so many of 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.080 us were rooting for to become the first Black Speaker 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:36.040 of the House. He also voted in favor of this resolution. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.600 And Angel please correct me if I'm wrong, but a 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:42.120 resolution is not a policy point. It is not attached 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.280 to a piece of legislation or law. So that was 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.600 has been some of their excuses as well, but it 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:53.880 is it's the symbolism that it sends, and I think 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.360 it's just a frustrating time for people because we saw 0:09:57.600 --> 0:10:01.360 Congressman Leader Jeffries in his office, you know, in his 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.400 fitted with his hat to decide. Quoting Biggie and Jay Z, lyrics, 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.079 and when it comes down to actual policy, people were 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.520 disappointed are actual resolution votes. 0:10:11.559 --> 0:10:13.280 The same could be said for Senator Corey Booker. 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:15.800 You know, people like some of these, you know, I 0:10:15.840 --> 0:10:19.680 think publicity stunts, but when it comes down to actual legislation, 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.000 I think there's a lot of disappointment from the community. 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.760 So I just wanted to put that in context and 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.240 let our audience know that we too share your frustration. 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.480 We've seen your comments and you know, heard what you 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.040 had to say about it, and it's certainly not not 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.240 in an echo chamber of isolation, a lot of us 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:37.640 feel the same level of frustration. 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:39.080 Andrew, what do you think? 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:45.600 You know? I I don't understand how politicians, as seniors, 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:49.800 as these members who serve with the highest deliberative body 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:53.840 in the land, the Congress, the Household, the Senate. UH, 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:59.400 don't yet understand that you can decry the murdering of 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:05.160 someone and at the same time not whitewash their history, 0:11:05.240 --> 0:11:08.679 their contributions, the harmful things that they may have done 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:14.080 or said with these sort of symbolic you know, resolutions 0:11:14.120 --> 0:11:17.320 that I have to tell you even I know tivity. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.160 You made the point that sometimes members who are in 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.920 purple districts or are in you know, particilarly contestable seats, 0:11:24.320 --> 0:11:27.280 will will take tough votes that they may not have 0:11:27.400 --> 0:11:31.040 in principle been one hundred percent for I just don't 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.200 know what voter out there come the next election is 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.920 going to say where did you stand on the Kirk 0:11:36.960 --> 0:11:41.880 resolution to honor mister Kirk. And by the way, if 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.600 that is a question you get, you can probably already 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.040 resolve that that vote was never going to be for 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.360 you in the first place if you disagreed with the 0:11:49.400 --> 0:11:53.559 way in which he lived certain parts of his life, 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:58.120 and those certain parts were pretty consequential for people who 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:05.640 found themselves in his crosshairs. I am worried that this 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:10.040 kind of tap dancing that Democrats are doing is going 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:13.280 to continue to steadily move the line of what is 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:19.360 appropriate by way of honoring the life of mister Kirk. So, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.760 for instance, we now have a statewise superintendent of education 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:28.760 who has now required that the organization that he led, 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:30.839 Turning Point, which is now about to be led by 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:35.680 his widow, his wife, has to be has to have 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:40.040 a chapter on every school campus in the entire state. 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:43.679 And Angela, you probably know what state, And I'm I'm 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:49.040 I'm Eclipsey, Oklahoma at the moment. But so everyone in 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.040 the state of Oklahoma now has to have on their 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.240 school chapter on their school yards public school yards a 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:59.120 chapter for Turning Point USA, which is an organization that 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:03.440 ideologically I am strongly on the opposite side of, and 0:13:03.480 --> 0:13:05.640 I imagine if more people knew what it was, they 0:13:05.640 --> 0:13:07.920 would also find themselves there. So I'm very, very concerned 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.679 about the moving of the lines, the fact that in 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:14.920 Florida we're about to have a memorial road renamed for 0:13:15.080 --> 0:13:19.480 Charlie Kirk. Again, these are ideas that are not universally 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.880 accepted by people. Unlike Martin Luther King who said, you know, 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.520 one nation this you know, one day this nation will 0:13:25.600 --> 0:13:28.320 rise up to live out the you know, the true 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:36.280 meaning of its creed. I mean, those are conciliatory, just 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:42.240 and righteous words. I don't know how saying that Kamala Harris, 0:13:42.720 --> 0:13:49.720 Katanji Brown Jackson women professional, successful, accomplished, highly credentialed women 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:56.800 don't have the brain capacity to manage complex things. And furthermore, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:01.040 in suggestion that every other woman lesser and qualifications than 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:07.000 them can't possibly ascend to an acceptable level of brain 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:12.559 capacity to digest and to reckon with complex questions and things. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.800 It just I'm weakened by them. I think this the 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.920 party is weakened by this leadership, if you want to 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.840 call it that. And I think overall it will not 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:28.480 serve Democrats well to tap dance on their belief system, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:31.120 and I think this is just an example of that well. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.520 And if it is their belief system, right, I think 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:35.360 the thing that I want to call out is there 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:39.840 were ninety five Democrats that voted in favor of this resolution. 0:14:40.280 --> 0:14:43.440 There were fifty eight who voted no, There were thirty 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.480 eight who voted present, and there were twenty two who 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.400 didn't vote at all, including some people in leadership. I 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.960 know for a fact jo Degose did not vote at all. 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:56.320 Joaquin Castro did not vote at all. There are people 0:14:56.320 --> 0:14:58.120 who are our friends who did not vote at all. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.040 And I think that the real challeng we have here 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:05.800 is that somebody said, well, you know, the party's fractured, 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:08.760 and I said, the party's done. The Democratic Party, as 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:12.840 far as I'm concerned, is done. Dixie Kratz have risen 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.720 their heads at this point, and I think that what 0:15:16.720 --> 0:15:20.240 we're seeing is that it's a textbooked example of the 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:24.840 fact that white supremacy is oftentimes upheld by people who 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.400 look just like me and you, people who we can 0:15:27.440 --> 0:15:30.520 find ourselves aligned with on so many other values. But 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.480 in this particular instance, and I do want to lift 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.840 up I don't know who the person was who shot 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:40.360 the video of Congressman Lou who is also the KPAC whip, 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.080 which means he whips votes for that caucus, the Asian 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:48.200 Pacific American Caucus, and Judy Chu, who has been a 0:15:48.240 --> 0:15:51.880 long standing chair of the caucus. I just want people 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:55.520 to understand that this is not the hour to be conciliatory, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:16:00.560 to be negotiating against political violence. This man tack someone 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:04.160 who is our dear sister friend Joy read so I 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.120 just I and Jasmine, and she said Jasmin Crockett, Congress 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:10.320 from Crockett and then after that, Jasmine taking him on. 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:12.440 And we're not going to have a bunch of time 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.280 to get into it today. But Laura Lumer taking on 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:19.880 Jasmine Crockett and the inflammatory, violent things she had to 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.840 say about her, calling her ghetto, calling her the B word, 0:16:23.320 --> 0:16:25.880 Like this is not them tamping down or ramping down 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:29.080 this rhetoric. They're leaning into it. What this resolution does 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.840 is it empowers white supremacists to white supremacy. You know 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.960 what I mean? Like that is what is going on. 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:38.360 So I think we need to be very clear about 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.080 what this moment requires of us. The courage isn't just 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.480 going to be required by the citizens, by the people. 0:16:43.800 --> 0:16:46.560 The courage is also required by the folks who have 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:49.920 been elected to serve the people. And that means that 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.440 if in case they forgot, in case there needs to 0:16:52.440 --> 0:16:54.840 be an altar call, in case you need to recommit 0:16:54.920 --> 0:16:57.640 your life, you need to be challenged. And you know 0:16:57.680 --> 0:17:00.720 what every citizen has the right to do is call 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:05.440 your member, approach your member and ask them why make 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:08.840 them explain this vote. We at the very least deserve 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:09.600 that opportunity. 0:17:09.640 --> 0:17:11.840 I just want to can I just get some context 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:13.720 and also tak it to you, Andrew, But because you 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:16.520 reference Joonooz, Congressman Joe Nogoz is a member of Congress 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:20.280 from Colorado, and the context is important there because he's 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:23.600 the first Eritrean ever elected to Congress and when that happened, 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:25.960 it was a huge deal. I think that's important for 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.920 the audience to know because sometimes we celebrate black faces 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:34.240 in high places, and they are not necessarily carrying our voice. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:37.800 Also Congressman Joaquin Castro, who is from Texas, and our 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.600 political memories can be short, but they were considered. He 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.760 and his twin brother, Julian Castro, were considered political leaders. 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.560 They were considered the next faces of the Democratic Party, 0:17:46.920 --> 0:17:50.240 particularly after President Obama came into office. Julian Castro served 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.800 as HUT secretary during the Obama administration. And so to 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.360 see them even fall back now Texas, of course has 0:17:57.400 --> 0:18:00.320 complicated politics. But to me, it's not courage if there's 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:02.080 no skin in the game. It's not courage if there's 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:05.080 no sacrifice. So I didn't even know that Jonah Goose 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.480 was one of the people. He didn't vote, Is that 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:08.080 what you were saying. 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:11.639 He's the assistant assistant Democratic leader, so he's in leadership. 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:14.439 He did not vote. It all Democratic leadership said that 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.360 they were going to collectively vote yes to stop political violence, 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:22.960 to ramp down what was happening, as if voting in 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.840 favor of honoring a white supremacist and someone who has 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:29.280 been very violent and vitriolic in their rhetoric was going 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:30.959 to do that at all. And I think that what 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.800 they're going to have to do is learn the hard 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:35.520 way that the death threats will still come, that people 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:39.000 will still be targeting your life because there weren't doing 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:42.320 that because they were waiting to see if you could 0:18:42.320 --> 0:18:45.840 be civil after Charlie Kirk was killed. They were doing 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:48.320 that because they don't like you. They don't want you 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.840 to be here. They don't want you to ascend to leadership. 0:18:50.920 --> 0:18:52.960 They don't want you to represent them in the House, 0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:55.320 the Senate, or in the presidency. They don't want you 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:57.439 to be on the Supreme Court. They don't want you 0:18:57.520 --> 0:19:00.719 in their classrooms. They don't want you getting their contracts, 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.359 they don't want you getting their job. They want you 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:06.000 out of here. And so the sooner that we begin 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.600 to realize that and legislate and lead like we understand 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:11.560 what time it is, the better off. 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:15.200 Will be well. The drama continues. When we get to 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.040 the other side of this break, we'll talk Jimmy Kimmel. 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:37.400 Hey man, my name is Jessica. I'm from pg County, Maryland. 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:39.639 I have a bunch of questions, but I'll send some 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:44.520 different videos. Today's question is in reference to the Kimo 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:51.639 situation that happened last night. Today is September eighteenth. What 0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:57.040 are the levels of protests that investment or is there 0:19:57.080 --> 0:20:04.520 anyone creating list or not list of companies, but lists 0:20:04.560 --> 0:20:08.960 of ways to divest from certain things. For example, ABC 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:15.680 is owned by Disney. Level one unsubscribed from Disney Plus. 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:21.560 Cancel your cable subscription and that's in particular to them, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:30.080 we unsubscribe to compare amount plus or whatever. What is 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.119 there anyone creating that type of list because everyone or 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.240 the majority of people are not going to go and 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:41.480 physically protests, but they may be able to save themselves 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:42.399 some money and. 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:45.440 Protests. 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:53.480 Uh, these companies bound into these idiots. So please enlighten 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:56.560 us if there are those type of resources. 0:20:56.640 --> 0:21:01.840 You know, I'm personally not aware of, you know, universal 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.600 platforms that that that monitor this stuff on a regular 0:21:05.680 --> 0:21:09.080 basis and decide who we should and shouldn't boycott. Obviously, 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:14.919 economic boycotts are extremely powerful, and there are steps I 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.119 think of getting to economic boycott, and very specifically for 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:22.680 the black community, it's a it is a very very 0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:27.720 strong cudgel that we have to reserve for the most 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.679 important times, which I think our community can collectively feel 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:34.400 and react to. Obviously, at the point that we're hearing 0:21:34.560 --> 0:21:37.520 your question, and we thank you for it. You know, 0:21:37.840 --> 0:21:43.040 ABC has of course again reversed its position. There was 0:21:43.240 --> 0:21:45.680 an economic boycott that I don't know if it was 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:49.119 universally sanctioned or who put the word out, but people 0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:52.600 absolutely did take it upon themselves to cancel their Disney 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:59.520 Plus subscriptions, their Hulu prescriptions, subscriptions, and and voice uh 0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.760 lit voices be heard from the Actors' Guild to individual 0:22:03.880 --> 0:22:07.240 citizens letting it be known to Disney that the First 0:22:07.280 --> 0:22:10.639 Amendment right in this country is still sacrisanc for a 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:13.160 lot of people. It used to be sacrisank for Republicans, 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:15.760 that they doesn't appear to exist for many of them, 0:22:15.760 --> 0:22:18.560 with a few exceptions. I was actually surprised to see 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:24.600 Ted Cruz and a few others come out strongly defending 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.320 the First Amendment. I do wonder where their voices have 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.119 been as the rest of the Constitution has been trampled on. 0:22:31.040 --> 0:22:33.480 But at least maybe there is some break in the 0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:36.480 you know, breaking the storm that there's some folks who 0:22:36.560 --> 0:22:39.120 haven't lost all of their religion as relates to the Constitution. 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.440 But I think as it relates to economic boycotts, we 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.040 within our community have to be very protectionists around that strategy. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.919 And when we move, we ought to move with force 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:52.439 and with impact. And I think that's how we bring, 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.680 you know, people who are against us, you know, to heal. 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:57.960 I'm not sure a few ladies have other thoughts on that. 0:22:58.000 --> 0:23:01.400 I think it leads us right into our next because 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.960 the Jimmy Kimmel situation got so much attention because of 0:23:04.960 --> 0:23:07.960 the voices surrounding him and people even initiating the protests 0:23:07.960 --> 0:23:10.639 that Andrew talked about. When it happened to a wealthy 0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.680 white man, people gathered around, and I wish we could 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.120 have that same support for black women. And that brings 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:19.119 us right to our next guest, Karen Atia. She is 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:22.199 a writer, commentator, and editor. She had been with the 0:23:22.280 --> 0:23:24.760 Washington Post since twenty fourteen. I used to love her 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.800 column she even wrote one about me, Thank you very much, Karen, 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.760 but she was abruptly fired. She was the last remaining 0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:34.840 black columnist at the Washington Post, and then in the 0:23:34.920 --> 0:23:39.640 aftermath of Charlie Kirk's murder, the Washington Post dismissed her. 0:23:39.720 --> 0:23:42.119 So we're very excited to get into this conversation, Karen. 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:43.720 Welcome home home. 0:23:45.119 --> 0:23:47.399 Thanks to finance. It's good to be here. 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.560 And thank you for all the support and the work 0:23:49.640 --> 0:23:50.240 that you've done. 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:54.040 Truly, absolutely, Karen, thank you. So we hear that there 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:57.960 are some things that are percolating given your experience at 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.320 the Washington Post. You want to share with our audience 0:24:01.359 --> 0:24:05.000 today about your experience and your path forward. And also 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.560 congratulations on an amazing substack launch. 0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:12.080 Oh thank y'all. Oh gosh, it's been such a whirlwind. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:16.840 I mean, I think I'm processing the shock of being 0:24:17.240 --> 0:24:23.119 terminated via email, of all things, after eleven years with 0:24:23.200 --> 0:24:27.400 the Post and with the opinion section. Right, so very briefly, 0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.639 you know, in the aftermath of the Charlie kirkshirting and 0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:32.439 not just the Charlie kirkshooting, but there was another shooting 0:24:32.440 --> 0:24:35.600 out of Colorado School, I was thinking about someone who'd 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:38.560 shot up the CDC with five hundred bullets. I was 0:24:38.560 --> 0:24:44.000 thinking about Melissa Hortman and Minnesota, who was assassinated, her 0:24:44.080 --> 0:24:46.840 husband killed and her dog killed, right and in this 0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.439 backdrop of America and gun violence and political violence. So 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:54.920 I was criticizing this sort of empty rhetoric around violence 0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.800 has no plaques here, and this is not who we are, 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:00.760 and thoughts and prayers, and I was just like, enough, 0:25:01.560 --> 0:25:03.919 this is who America is and. 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:05.360 To be able to speak about this. 0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:11.320 The perpetrators so often of political extremists violence, and these 0:25:11.359 --> 0:25:15.320 mass shootings, statistically, according to the FBAI, according to the DOJ, 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:20.360 have been white men, particularly young white men. And all 0:25:20.400 --> 0:25:23.560 I said in my Blue Sky post was normalizing this 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.600 sort of coddling of violent white men as part of 0:25:27.640 --> 0:25:31.639 what keeps America in this bloody status quo, right, And 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:32.520 so it was very. 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:34.080 General and it was nothing. 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:35.960 I've had some spicy takes, I know him, like my 0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:39.440 takes are spicy because my alerts be looking crazy. 0:25:39.600 --> 0:25:40.320 This was none of that. 0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.000 This was very somber. I condemned the murder of Charlie 0:25:44.040 --> 0:25:46.520 Kirk while also saying I was not going to go 0:25:46.640 --> 0:25:51.119 over the top and perform mourning, tear my clothes and 0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:54.800 smear ashes on my face, particularly for a man that 0:25:54.960 --> 0:26:00.960 routinely disparage particularly black women, Black men called for lethal 0:26:01.040 --> 0:26:05.280 violence against migrants, put some acquaintances I know on watch 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.719 lists that threaten their safety. I was not going to 0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.679 engage in over the top emotionality performative and so I 0:26:13.680 --> 0:26:16.280 said that and went about my day then twelve hours later, 0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.840 I get a notice of termination from the Post saying 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:27.040 I had engaged in gross misconducts because I disparage Kirk 0:26:27.080 --> 0:26:31.639 on the basis of race by mentioning white men. Again, 0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.159 anyone can go back to my post. I've left them out. 0:26:34.200 --> 0:26:36.720 That's how much I stand by them. I said, violent 0:26:36.800 --> 0:26:41.440 white men. So this was un unjustifiring. I categorically reject 0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:44.399 everything they said. I mean that I was putting my 0:26:44.440 --> 0:26:47.240 colleagues in danger, that I posed a risk to the 0:26:47.280 --> 0:26:49.480 Post after my eleven years putting my life on the 0:26:49.520 --> 0:26:54.679 line to defend press freedoms, to defend other people, to 0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:56.240 give people the right to speak, That. 0:26:56.280 --> 0:26:57.359 I was a risk. 0:26:57.800 --> 0:27:00.840 No. So the news today, coming out of all this, 0:27:00.880 --> 0:27:03.920 I've had a whole lot of support. Decided to challenge 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:09.520 this and file an official grievance within the guild of 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:12.080 the Post. So we're definitely challenging this. That this was 0:27:12.119 --> 0:27:16.479 without cause, This firing is without cause, without basis of 0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:21.960 violated policy, and that I'm also still retaining the options 0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:25.480 to take to take this further because this precedent cannot stand. 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.919 I was doing my job as a as a writer, 0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:32.640 as a journalist, as a commentator while exercising restraint. 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.040 And it's it's chilling. 0:27:35.760 --> 0:27:41.480 To me to see the Washington Post engaging in a 0:27:41.520 --> 0:27:44.080 firing and basically sending the message that if you talk 0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:48.119 about white men, your job is on the line. I 0:27:48.160 --> 0:27:53.040 was being descriptive. I was being descriptive, not disparaging. As 0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.960 uncomfortable as it might be to hear about these patterns, 0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:59.680 that is the truth, and that's all I was doing. 0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.399 Was punished for telling the truth. 0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:07.120 So, like I said, not taking it, lying down, filing 0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.880 a fight back within the posts with the grievance and 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:16.840 retained counsel with the Democracy Defenders and the Well, let's. 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.680 Go well that Jeff Bezos directly, because I know the 0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:24.960 environment there changed grossly after Jeff Bezos acquired. And we 0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.399 just had a question from a viewer asking, you know, 0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.920 how can we protest these things? And when you consider 0:28:30.040 --> 0:28:34.560 the tentacles that Jeff Bezos has and considering your loss, 0:28:34.560 --> 0:28:36.439 we should mention that you were, of course the editor 0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:43.320 for Jamal Kashoji, who was brutally murdered accused of you know, 0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:47.959 we believe by the Saudi government, and we believe MBS 0:28:48.680 --> 0:28:50.760 had a hand in it personally, and you were right 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.360 out front on that battle as well, given that there 0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:57.959 are less than six percent of black people in positions leadership, 0:28:58.000 --> 0:29:00.720 positions of newsrooms, and when you disaggregate that considering black 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:03.640 women's even less so, when Jeff Bezils took this over, 0:29:04.360 --> 0:29:07.160 the environment likely changed for you as well. So does 0:29:07.160 --> 0:29:10.400 your lawsuit name him? Is he or your potential lawsuit 0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:12.520 your grievance, does it name Himmer target him directly? 0:29:14.760 --> 0:29:17.840 Yeah, we sent a letter to Washington Post leadership, and 0:29:18.040 --> 0:29:21.320 you know we have noted these changes, particularly in recent years. 0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:24.200 I can say from my experience, my experience has been 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:26.120 a bit of a one to eighty. I have a 0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:28.680 bit of a whiplash. When I joined, I joined it 0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.960 around the same time Bezos bought the paper, so I 0:29:30.960 --> 0:29:34.480 actually joined at a time when there was a lot 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:37.120 of diversity. I mean I was a high ranking senior 0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.160 editor in a way in the opinion section. And again 0:29:41.200 --> 0:29:44.720 I've been in the opinion section my entire career, meaning 0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:49.320 I was paid to give opinions, and paid to the 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:54.880 surface opinions, and paid to also defend people whose opinions 0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:58.440 might have not have been sort of accepted all the time. 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:03.280 A part of what is so chilling about this time 0:30:03.400 --> 0:30:06.440 is that the Post, particularly when my writer Jamalkastrucci was killed, 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:11.480 we put ourselves front and center as defending press freedom 0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:13.600 around the world, that you should not be silenced and 0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:18.440 punished just for critiquing your country. That's what Jamal did. 0:30:18.760 --> 0:30:21.560 He loved his country, he loved Saudi Arabia, and they 0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.160 still murdered him for it. And at the time the 0:30:24.200 --> 0:30:28.320 Post was stood behind me, stood behind Jamal. You know, 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:32.120 in a way, we went all sorts of recognition, all 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.280 sorts of rewards, and we're the embodiment of what it 0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.760 should look like when an institution has their writers and 0:30:38.960 --> 0:30:46.200 editors backs. Now I am being thrown under the bus 0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:52.480 despite putting my physical safety on the line for this institution, 0:30:52.880 --> 0:30:55.440 and not just this institution. It's really because I do 0:30:55.520 --> 0:31:00.000 truly believe that the ability to express yourself the First Amendment, 0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:03.160 is the one right that guarantees all the other rights. 0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:07.320 If we cannot name, if we cannot express, if we 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:11.640 cannot even refer to to data and facts, it makes 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:14.240 it so much harder to fight for every single other right, 0:31:14.360 --> 0:31:16.320 makes it so much harder to fight for our communities. 0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:20.240 Particularly as a black journalist. It makes it damn near 0:31:20.280 --> 0:31:23.200 impossible to talk about race if this is the precedent 0:31:23.240 --> 0:31:26.040 that is being sent so right now, this is not 0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:32.800 I've never changed, it's the Post that's changed. And I 0:31:32.840 --> 0:31:34.880 guess for me, sorry, I'm so passionate about this. 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:37.000 It's just I've. 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:41.440 Talked to my colleagues who remain at the Post and outside. Again, 0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.040 I was an opinion journalist, meaning I have a broader 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.680 range of latitude, even under the social media policy, to 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:50.720 be able to not only express myself, but to advocate 0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:53.440 as well, to write about the world is I think 0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.360 that it should be. That's what my editor, Fred Hyatt 0:31:56.400 --> 0:32:00.200 told me to do as a journalist. And so to 0:32:00.240 --> 0:32:04.160 see the posts abandon those values so in such a 0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:09.040 way puts a target on other journalists. Spot puts a 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:12.240 target on black journalists. Spot put a target on anyone 0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:15.280 who's trying to talk about race, put a target on 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:18.480 their back. And so, you know, what I'm hoping out 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.920 of this is that there is a reversal, because you know, 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.360 for me, it's bigger than a job. It's about protecting 0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:27.280 our ability to be able to speak the truth and 0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:32.920 to protect particularly black journalists safety to do their jobs. 0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:35.320 So important and Karen. We were so grateful that you 0:32:35.320 --> 0:32:37.200 could join us. We know you have a heart out. 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:41.040 Best of luck with your complaint and keep up the fight. 0:32:41.120 --> 0:32:43.000 We know it's not just for you, it's for all 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.320 of us. So thank you so much. And speaking of 0:32:47.280 --> 0:32:51.680 a black journalists who have been under attack, we have ebanygmore. 0:32:51.920 --> 0:32:55.920 Mcgmore is joining us now from American Urban Radio Network 0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:59.320 and she is the White House correspondent there. This just 0:32:59.480 --> 0:33:02.200 happened this week with President Trump. 0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:03.840 Let's roll the clip going into. 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.680 New York too, and we're going to be going in quiet. 0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:08.480 You're really obnoxious. 0:33:08.560 --> 0:33:10.320 I'm not obnoxious, but I'm trying to ask you what 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.680 about your plans? 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.600 I'm not obnoxious, but I am acting. What are your 0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.120 plans for Memphis? Many people? 0:33:16.280 --> 0:33:19.320 I'm not going to talk to you until you what 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:20.880 are your who else? 0:33:20.920 --> 0:33:21.120 Yeah? 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.320 Go ahead, I actual want to sell this. 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.360 So E mean, we just saw what took place with 0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:29.040 you and the President in the Oval Office. You have, are, 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.720 of course decorated journalist, long time twenty years. You spent 0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:37.320 time at NBC and News one before going to American 0:33:37.440 --> 0:33:41.120 Urban Radio Networks. Tell us what that experience was like 0:33:41.160 --> 0:33:44.600 for you and just what you've been going through since. 0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.280 Thank you. Let me just first say thank you, thank. 0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:53.920 You for this platform, platforms like Native lampod that allow 0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:58.560 us to tell our story and keep each other's names 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:03.040 in our mouths so that we continue, we can continue 0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:08.880 telling our story in the moment that it happened, because 0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:11.560 I had seen this president rage bait and beret so 0:34:11.680 --> 0:34:15.840 many people over and over again, particularly black women, and 0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:19.680 we know the roll call, and you just had caring 0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.399 on to talk about what happens when we speak up. 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:24.280 I was angry. 0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:28.040 I went in and at the time thinking about what 0:34:28.080 --> 0:34:31.279 we're seeing with Charlie Kirk, and also there was a 0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:36.839 bust of Lincoln for President Lincoln right in front of us, 0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:39.879 while I also remember that the President just put up 0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:42.840 a painting of Roberty Lee. 0:34:43.640 --> 0:34:44.879 It wasn't making. 0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.879 Sense, and I just wanted to know what was going 0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:49.000 on with Memphis. And I had said in my mind 0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.759 because I'm always in there pressing and answering, but that day, 0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.239 I just I was fed up with it and I 0:34:54.280 --> 0:34:56.719 wanted to know what happened, and I didn't want to 0:34:56.760 --> 0:34:58.279 get off topic, and he. 0:34:58.360 --> 0:34:59.200 Had a rant. 0:34:59.239 --> 0:35:02.320 We've seen him do these twenty minute thirty minute rants 0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.719 and they're never about anything. So I wanted to get 0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.800 to some substance. And when he called me obnoxious, instantly, 0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.160 no I'm not, but I also know that you're trying 0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:15.759 to get us off. He said it again, No I'm not. 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.400 When he told me to be quiet, I did pause 0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.239 for a quick second, but then I came back because 0:35:21.239 --> 0:35:23.640 I was just tired of it. I didn't even think 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:26.400 that the moment would be what it was for me. 0:35:26.680 --> 0:35:28.840 I was just like, I'm tired, and my know was 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:32.880 because I felt like you were saying black folk are obnoxious, 0:35:32.960 --> 0:35:36.080 White black black women are obnoxious, and. 0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.080 It felt a little personal, and so in. 0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.719 That moment, I was like, I'm not going to back down, 0:35:41.719 --> 0:35:44.440 but I need to know about Memphis because I'm a 0:35:44.520 --> 0:35:47.000 native Washingtony and I'm here. I see what's happening in 0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:49.360 these streets. I see you put forth the plans and 0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.239 militarize the streets, and then I see you put forth 0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.239 a plan to address homelessness, but you never really do it. 0:35:56.320 --> 0:35:58.400 And so I was tired of it, just like so 0:35:58.400 --> 0:36:01.000 many other journalists and Tiffany, you know, so being on 0:36:01.000 --> 0:36:03.799 the hill and coming so many stories, our voices get 0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:06.880 muffled so much, and most people don't know. They're literally 0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.279 only a handful of black owned and operated stations that 0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:14.600 are even in that press briefing, that alone in the pool. 0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.160 And so we wonder why why aren't we hearing this 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.080 and why aren't we hearing this story? It is because 0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.000 they're not that many of us in there. So that's 0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:25.040 why platforms like this are. 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:26.200 Important, are important. 0:36:26.239 --> 0:36:30.320 You're not gonna hear many of our stories on mainstream media. 0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:31.520 It's just not happening. 0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:34.360 And when you do, it is absolutely not covered in 0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.080 the same way with the same black voices. And in 0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:41.480 that moment, I was just I was just tired of 0:36:41.600 --> 0:36:43.840 him calling on the person to the left and to 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.880 the right over and over. The other questions that I 0:36:46.960 --> 0:36:50.040 had was about the hanging of Trey Reid. The other 0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.920 questions that I had was why did you scrap the 0:36:51.960 --> 0:36:54.840 DOJ website when we know and Karen was talking about 0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.399 this the amount of violence that we see coming from 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:02.400 right wing organizations, But instead we got this whole speech 0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:08.320 about him going after Democrats when the DJ report that 0:37:08.320 --> 0:37:13.200 they're trying to hide say something very different. It is infuriating. 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:19.800 I gotta say, your professionalism was actually on full display. 0:37:20.200 --> 0:37:26.040 The irritation, annoyance, and disrespect that you felt in that 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:31.520 moment really was overcome by your professionalism rising to the top, 0:37:31.920 --> 0:37:38.120 by you not returning disrespect with disrespect. You stood completely 0:37:38.200 --> 0:37:41.720 in your right as a journalist to ask a legitimate question, 0:37:41.800 --> 0:37:45.719 and you expected, well you hope for it, anyway, a 0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:48.480 real and legitimate response from the man who sits in 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.759 the most powerful position in all the land. I got 0:37:51.760 --> 0:37:54.239 to imagine that having the hour of the President of 0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:59.200 the United States and the army of really dangerous people 0:37:59.440 --> 0:38:02.200 now calling them all that, but many of them dangerous 0:38:02.239 --> 0:38:05.279 people who follow him, who then take things to the 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:09.680 next level that put your person in harm's way. I 0:38:09.719 --> 0:38:14.280 would love if we know one of your previous colleagues, 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.120 April Ryan, also found herself sort of in those crosshairs, 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.960 and I remember during that time her sharing with us 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:26.319 just how dangerous it felt. And so my question really is, 0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:30.480 to your person, how are you making sure that you 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:37.360 stay protected, safe, secure, and more than anything on your job. 0:38:38.600 --> 0:38:40.920 Well, let me just first say, April was one of 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:42.279 the first people that called me. 0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:46.320 Immediately, she said, and I wasn't even thinking, I just 0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:47.480 know I want to hurry to get out of the 0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:49.200 White House. I wanted to get in my car. And 0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:51.799 that was really my first one, me get out of here. 0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.399 I didn't even look online. I didn't even know people 0:38:54.480 --> 0:38:54.960 were sharing. 0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.840 She called and she says, this, good job. She was like, 0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:00.880 you did that. She was like, but she told me. 0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:04.200 She began to share more of her story and how 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:05.920 she began to protect herself. And I said to her, 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.640 I said, April when we elected Trump in office. Before that, 0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:11.880 I had to have a conversation with friends and family. 0:39:12.200 --> 0:39:13.960 Let me just tell you how this ride may look. 0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.200 Let me just tell you what even our children. Let 0:39:16.239 --> 0:39:18.760 me tell you what we're not posting, what we're not doing, 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:22.800 because we first, safety is first right. And in addition 0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.960 to that, I've had other colleagues and other journalists reach 0:39:26.080 --> 0:39:29.160 out to me. But it is a very real situation. 0:39:29.640 --> 0:39:31.920 So it wasn't like I came out like, oh I 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:32.359 did this. 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:32.759 No. 0:39:32.960 --> 0:39:34.799 I was like, let me get home and let me 0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:37.560 notify my husband just what happened, just so we can 0:39:37.640 --> 0:39:38.240 all be safe. 0:39:38.239 --> 0:39:40.520 So our community. I'm in the community all the. 0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:41.560 Time, not just here. 0:39:42.320 --> 0:39:44.399 I'm at the White House, I'm helping people on the street. 0:39:44.440 --> 0:39:47.680 I'm feeding the homeless. I'm very involved my husband's and pastors, 0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.239 so we actually go out on the street on the 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.120 weekends and help those who are addicted to drugs. Right, 0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:54.960 and so I'm seeing where we're real life and where 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:57.120 policy is having a detrimental effect. 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:58.680 But one thing that he said. 0:39:58.480 --> 0:39:59.920 When I was talking to my baby girl that I've 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:04.640 shared is that she said, she said, he called you obnoxious. 0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:06.920 She said, obnoxious means unpleasant, And I said, you know 0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:09.520 why it is? It is times that we like this 0:40:09.640 --> 0:40:11.880 that we have to be unpleasant. When we look at 0:40:11.960 --> 0:40:15.000 Ida b wells and there were black bodies hanging from trees, 0:40:15.320 --> 0:40:20.680 she had to be unpleasant. When Emmett Till was brutally murdered, 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:23.880 his mother had to be unpleasant to show the world 0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:28.200 what this country looks like. So fine, I was upset 0:40:28.239 --> 0:40:30.640 at the obnoxious thing, but I'll be obnoxious when it 0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:33.799 comes to getting the truth out and protecting my community 0:40:34.040 --> 0:40:36.160 and all of us, even you on here on this 0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:38.880 on a Native lampod. I know people have come for you. 0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:41.720 We see it online. I did finally go to Twitter 0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:46.440 and I saw someone say here she is maga get her. 0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:50.120 I was like, but but what I am not going 0:40:50.200 --> 0:40:54.480 to allow you to do is to take your white 0:40:54.640 --> 0:41:01.719 nationalist faith rapid around across, be indign about it, put 0:41:01.840 --> 0:41:05.640 Jesus as your mascot, and act like you are fighting 0:41:05.719 --> 0:41:07.600 for justice when you are not. 0:41:07.840 --> 0:41:10.400 And so that's why our voices are important. 0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.680 I had if it wasn't for out likes like this 0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:17.799 and those who are online, and people like April and 0:41:17.920 --> 0:41:21.320 Dante Wright who's with Black blackpr dot com, and Zena 0:41:21.480 --> 0:41:25.840 and other voices that we hear on daily calling and 0:41:25.880 --> 0:41:28.799 saying we got you, it. 0:41:29.000 --> 0:41:31.000 Would be it would make them fight that harder. 0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.200 But one thing I heard Jimmy Kimmel's day, because that's 0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:36.440 sixth day, that number six six days. 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:40.359 They did this in six days he was back on air. 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.359 He said, if it wasn't for your. 0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:49.120 Voices rising up, mine would not be heard. And I 0:41:49.160 --> 0:41:51.040 think we have to take that to heart because if 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.719 it is not for our voices, other black journalists like 0:41:55.719 --> 0:42:00.640 like you, Me, Shau Sendor, like even cow Say, Karen 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:05.640 Hughes and Reesee Cobird so many and Karen speaking out 0:42:05.840 --> 0:42:08.000 speaking truth to power. 0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.600 Right, we would not be able to get our stories out. 0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.040 So the action forward, I would say, because people are 0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:15.480 saying what do we do We we number one, have 0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:20.480 to realize that our voices, uh are not to be taken. 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.560 You can take anything you want, people say, what about 0:42:22.560 --> 0:42:24.680 your past? You can take the White House pass, you 0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.479 can take whatever you want. But I'll be on the. 0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:29.080 Other side of that gate, speaking truth to power. My 0:42:29.200 --> 0:42:31.399 voice is not yours to take. And that is how 0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.760 we have always been able to push through in this hour. 0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.200 And so I need people to understand that the power 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:41.120 of the press, the power of free speech, is extremely important. 0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.720 We have a president who was literally created an enemy's 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:44.279 list and. 0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:47.520 Told you who is on the list? Yeah, and people 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:48.560 still don't believe it. 0:42:49.440 --> 0:42:54.279 I don't well, you know, I just want to say, 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.520 go ahead, no Angelo, Oh sorry, no, go for it. 0:42:57.160 --> 0:43:00.160 Just really quick for context, Ebanie. I heard you say 0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.359 that you the first thought was let me get out 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.680 of here when you were in the White House. And 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.880 what I love about this is you are now in 0:43:07.920 --> 0:43:11.799 a space where you will be surrounded by your large, accepted, 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.600 chosen Black family. You're there at the CBC Foundations and 0:43:16.719 --> 0:43:19.759 your legislative conference set up at the au r In booth. 0:43:19.760 --> 0:43:24.239 I'm gonna come see y all today. The noise I'm sorry, No, 0:43:24.360 --> 0:43:26.480 that's right, but I wanted to make sure people knew 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.160 that you were in the noise of comfort, especially in DC. 0:43:30.280 --> 0:43:32.400 We want to find those spaces like that. And I 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:35.200 just want to say I'm actually on my way to 0:43:35.239 --> 0:43:36.960 an event from the State of the People with the 0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.279 CBC Foundation, but I want to say thank you for 0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:43.080 being a voice of comfort, of reason, of conviction in 0:43:43.239 --> 0:43:46.120 halls where many of us cannot go, where many of 0:43:46.160 --> 0:43:49.000 our folks have never been. And I just really really 0:43:49.040 --> 0:43:51.160 appreciate you for your courage in this moment. 0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:52.320 It is hard. 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:54.719 We're seeing that few and far between. There are a 0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:57.560 lot of people not leading with conviction and courage, and 0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:00.279 so thank you for standing on the shoulders of I 0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.400 to be weals and so many others that have preceded you. 0:44:03.400 --> 0:44:05.759 You are a powerful voice and we are definitely here 0:44:05.800 --> 0:44:07.680 to support you. My sister Tip, I yelled up. 0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:08.320 Sorry, that's okay. 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.520 I'm glad you said that, And I think it's important 0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.080 is to say that heaven he is at the Congressional 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.040 Black Hawks Foundation. Yeah, yes, thank you for being there. 0:44:17.040 --> 0:44:29.640 I echo ten times everything Angelis said. I wanted to 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.640 ask you because of course it's journalists we do not 0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:35.120 want to be the story. We are trained, we are 0:44:35.160 --> 0:44:37.440 not the story. And so so many times on young 0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:39.359 people say I want to be a journalist. I think 0:44:39.400 --> 0:44:41.160 they think that means you go on TV and give 0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:45.200 your opinion. But no journalists listen more than we speak. 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.160 We are there to interrogate, not to offer our thought. 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.360 But even with that lens, I think what you're saying 0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:54.840 is so important because often what is considered unbiased is 0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:57.960 rooted in what's white and male. When you are insulted 0:44:58.040 --> 0:45:00.200 by the President of the United States, of course you 0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:02.480 have a right to say no, mister President, I am 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.759 not obnoxious, and you proceed with your story. And when 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.080 he's not calling on you, you not only have a right, 0:45:08.160 --> 0:45:10.960 but an obligation to your audience to ask your question. 0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.359 It happens all the time, and it's not courage if 0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:17.719 there is no fear there. Courage only comes in the 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.200 space of fear. And when you choose in that moment 0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:23.000 to stand up and say no, despite everything that may 0:45:23.040 --> 0:45:25.160 happen to me, I am going to press forward and 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:25.920 ask my question. 0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:27.239 Truly, in the spirit of Ida B. 0:45:27.360 --> 0:45:29.879 Wells, who was talking about white women sleeping with black 0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:34.239 men in the Deep South and threatening, you know, with 0:45:34.560 --> 0:45:37.200 multiple threats to her life. So I think that's just 0:45:37.200 --> 0:45:42.600 an important context for you when you're navigating newsrooms where 0:45:43.000 --> 0:45:46.239 most of the people do not look like us. We 0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:50.880 run up against our career ambition, can often butt heads 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:55.560 with our humanity when there are white executives who tell 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:59.960 us what is appropriate, what is considered unbiased. 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:02.160 I'm just curious. 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:06.080 How you navigate that and any advice you have to 0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.160 people who might look at certain people and say, well, 0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:10.000 you're not really speaking for me, or why didn't they 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:14.160 do this to give any insight to the viewing audience 0:46:14.160 --> 0:46:17.120 who may not understand what happens behind the scenes, particularly 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:18.040 in broadcast news. 0:46:19.239 --> 0:46:22.160 Thank you for that question, because you know, and I 0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.960 know it is hard. I have been in those spaces, 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.600 and most people may not know how your day will start. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:31.680 You come together with the meeting with the reporters and 0:46:31.760 --> 0:46:34.560 the producers, and you decide what you will cover. 0:46:35.640 --> 0:46:37.440 And I remember a particular incident. 0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:41.240 This is around when the housing around the housing crash 0:46:41.360 --> 0:46:43.640 in eight and we were all there talking and I 0:46:43.680 --> 0:46:45.880 heard someone say I was probably one of two black 0:46:45.920 --> 0:46:48.640 people in the room, and they said, I just don't 0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:53.359 understand why why certain communities are having such a hard time. 0:46:54.120 --> 0:46:56.040 I mean, if you just pay your bill or if 0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.960 you just do this. And in that moment, I was 0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:02.800 I was very young at the time. I bridled my tongue, 0:47:02.840 --> 0:47:05.319 but I was so angry, and I was like, I 0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:06.400 didn't know what to say. 0:47:06.440 --> 0:47:07.680 And there are a lot of journalists. 0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:09.839 Now I'm a little different because I don't mind speaking out, 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:10.920 but then I didn't. 0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:11.360 Know how to handle it. 0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.880 And there's so many journalists who are in meetings in 0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:18.000 white spaces, and You're like, how do I lift up 0:47:18.000 --> 0:47:20.960 my voice? How do I get my how do I 0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:25.279 control the narrative? And what I began to do was 0:47:25.360 --> 0:47:30.399 first to begin to get to understand who was in 0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:32.560 my space, because at that time, I was just I 0:47:32.640 --> 0:47:34.640 was going to work, I was doing whatever, great network, 0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:36.399 but I was like, I need to connect with more 0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.879 black journalists who are covering these stories, because I didn't 0:47:39.920 --> 0:47:40.520 really at the time. 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:41.719 I was just happy to be there. 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:44.160 I was young, and so I said, now I need 0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:48.160 to connect, I need to network more because we have 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:53.200 always worked amazing in the dark, right, And so I 0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:55.719 began to huddle and talk with them and plan and 0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:57.960 figure out how do we tell our stories. If I 0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.239 can't tell, let me feed you this information. It is 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:03.680 almost like an underground railroad network when it comes to 0:48:03.719 --> 0:48:06.160 some of these programs, and I'm talking about one that 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:09.760 lead right and ones that lead that lean left as well. 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:12.759 Please don't get it twisted. You will find this fight. 0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:16.040 It doesn't matter where you go. And as I begin 0:48:16.120 --> 0:48:19.400 to do that, it was it was help for me. 0:48:19.719 --> 0:48:20.440 It was shoring. 0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.439 It gave me hope, and it also showed me where 0:48:23.440 --> 0:48:26.840 I can plant my voice in other independent papers. And 0:48:26.880 --> 0:48:28.319 so you don't always have to stay where you are. 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:31.080 Don't know what your contract looks like. But I need 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.840 us to also just reach out to each other, to 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:36.840 keep each other's names in your mouth. When I finished this, 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.440 one of the first people to reach out was also 0:48:39.520 --> 0:48:44.040 Seanna Renee, a doctor Wilmer Leon on XM. And after 0:48:44.120 --> 0:48:47.320 each conversation we always huddle what can we do from here? 0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.120 What can we do from here? What is this? What 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.560 does safety look like for our community? 0:48:53.000 --> 0:48:55.799 Because as you know, there may be a day and 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.680 this goes for anyone in any industry that the rug 0:48:58.760 --> 0:49:02.600 may be snatched from under you in the middle of 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.839 you thinking that you're great and if you don't have 0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:11.080 a safety net, if you don't have a community built up, 0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:14.120 it is hard. So I'm telling people wherever you are. 0:49:14.640 --> 0:49:16.279 You may not have been let go, you may be 0:49:16.400 --> 0:49:18.719 still on the job, but I need you to prepare 0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:22.719 because if not, you'll be beholden to a check. I 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.560 need you always tell people build on the side. If 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:29.320 someone wants to say goodbye to you tomorrow, what will 0:49:29.320 --> 0:49:32.279 you do? And that may come to you when you 0:49:32.360 --> 0:49:34.640 have a message. This is so deep down in your 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:36.920 spirit that you need to cry out and you need 0:49:36.960 --> 0:49:41.839 to get out, but you're afraid create community. I've been 0:49:41.880 --> 0:49:45.280 doing that. I love being at American Urban Radio Networks. 0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:48.080 But I also have to know what the purpose is 0:49:48.120 --> 0:49:50.480 that God has put inside of me. And that is 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.960 just like everybody else. We always talk about I ain't 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:55.480 trying to go Bible on you, but we always talk 0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:57.279 about Essa for such a time as this. But you 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.480 gotta understand the role of Mordecai. Mordecai is the one 0:50:00.480 --> 0:50:02.799 that had to push her, tell her story and to 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.839 tell her what would happen if she did not. And 0:50:05.880 --> 0:50:08.719 in that I said, I'll still raise up another but 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:11.600 this is gonna affect you so where that Mortecai represents 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:15.600 those communities, those people around you, And so I want 0:50:15.600 --> 0:50:19.440 everybody to be safe, but do not allow someone to 0:50:19.560 --> 0:50:22.520 control your voice. That may be the only thing you 0:50:22.840 --> 0:50:32.000 leave with in a place because you've been through it. 0:50:32.560 --> 0:50:35.560 I've shed tears when I've seen because I've been where 0:50:35.600 --> 0:50:37.399 I've had to speak out and then had to figure 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.200 out how I was gonna figure myself and be honest 0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:39.560 with you. 0:50:39.800 --> 0:50:42.200 Had had a message or on my door. 0:50:41.960 --> 0:50:44.080 That I was gonna get evicted because I. 0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:44.880 Lifted up my voice. 0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:48.359 I was tired. I was tired, like I'm here now, 0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:50.239 but I know you. I know both of y'all. 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:53.080 When them tears start hitting them pillows and you're like, 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:55.480 oh my god, and ain't nobody covering you or coming 0:50:55.520 --> 0:50:58.120 back for you? And the headline is gone, what do 0:50:58.239 --> 0:50:58.839 you have? 0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:01.880 I have got and I have my voice. 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:05.319 I promise you I will not be silenced no matter 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:06.479 where I am. 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:08.279 I just wanna, I. 0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:08.759 Wanna thank you. 0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:11.839 I'm gonna thank the journalists who didn't who weren't able 0:51:11.880 --> 0:51:14.520 to you know, their names weren't told. 0:51:14.840 --> 0:51:17.319 I see you, the different outlets n. 0:51:17.320 --> 0:51:19.640 N PA, I see you the work that we do 0:51:19.680 --> 0:51:22.560 and people don't realize we don't a lot of these outlets. 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.840 We don't have a whole lot of money. People always 0:51:24.840 --> 0:51:27.680 fusting where are you at? It was Roland who called 0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.440 me and was like, sis, I got you just pulled 0:51:29.440 --> 0:51:31.000 me over sometimes. 0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:31.440 What do you need? 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:32.759 What do you need? 0:51:32.800 --> 0:51:35.800 And we have to do that. Lastly, I'll say, and 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:36.799 I'm gonna keep saying this. 0:51:37.040 --> 0:51:40.920 People pull their money six days, y'all over three billion 0:51:41.040 --> 0:51:44.920 dollars six days for Target. We had to do a 0:51:44.960 --> 0:51:47.560 press conference. Try to figure out what day is it 0:51:47.600 --> 0:51:48.040 gonna start? 0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:48.840 Are you gonna do it? 0:51:48.880 --> 0:51:49.000 Well? 0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:49.920 What we got left? 0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.920 No, there was no press conference. People just immediately reacted. 0:51:54.080 --> 0:51:56.760 I needed to be an immediate reaction in these days 0:51:57.000 --> 0:52:00.000 and in these times. And so if you canceled your subscript, 0:52:00.239 --> 0:52:01.440 my question is where you gonna. 0:52:01.200 --> 0:52:02.680 Put that money now? Are you gonna put it in 0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:03.320 black media? 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:05.600 Are you gonna put it in someone who is actually 0:52:05.640 --> 0:52:07.520 lifting up your voice and caring for your people? Where 0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.880 you gonna put yourself? I'm glad that he's back on 0:52:09.920 --> 0:52:13.359 the air. However, my question is those of us who 0:52:13.400 --> 0:52:16.120 care about our community, and you cancel your subscription, what 0:52:16.120 --> 0:52:17.080 you're gonna do with that money now? 0:52:17.080 --> 0:52:17.880 You're putting it back. 0:52:17.719 --> 0:52:18.759 Into the system. 0:52:19.040 --> 0:52:20.560 Are you gonna feed something to feeds you? 0:52:21.840 --> 0:52:25.560 Hey man, can you pass the collection plate anybody? 0:52:25.840 --> 0:52:26.400 Uh? 0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:29.600 The gold one? Put the gold one out, not the silver. 0:52:29.680 --> 0:52:33.960 We want the gold plate moving around because you your 0:52:34.000 --> 0:52:39.640 words are so true. They they ripple throughout every aspect 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.920 of our community, no matter where you are inside journalism, outside, 0:52:43.120 --> 0:52:46.440 at the janitor, wherever you are. Those are These are 0:52:46.440 --> 0:52:49.120 really key lessons that all of us in these days, 0:52:49.440 --> 0:52:51.520 we probably should have been doing it all along. But 0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:55.920 if it isn't clear now, it's there's it won't get clean. 0:52:56.000 --> 0:52:57.560 You'll never pick it up if you don't pick it 0:52:57.640 --> 0:53:00.080 up right now, if you don't know right now that 0:53:00.120 --> 0:53:04.080 our lives are threatened on every single side. And at 0:53:04.120 --> 0:53:06.319 the end of the day, all we got is. 0:53:06.320 --> 0:53:10.640 Us to the four hundred thousand black women who lost 0:53:10.640 --> 0:53:12.719 their jobs, to at least a cook to every week, 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:14.040 we got the roll call. 0:53:14.160 --> 0:53:16.440 He gave you the list. 0:53:16.719 --> 0:53:22.040 That's it. That's it. Since continued, Oh man, just we 0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:25.400 thank you for what you've done already. And I only 0:53:26.160 --> 0:53:30.600 I only eyes have not seen, ears have not heard. 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:34.080 That's all I know. I love it, that's all I know. 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:36.200 I just want to say thank you, and Tiffany, I 0:53:36.239 --> 0:53:37.680 always want to tell you when you told when you 0:53:37.719 --> 0:53:41.840 all launched this, and I saw you wipe the tears 0:53:41.840 --> 0:53:46.920 from your eyes, I was like, since I literally wanted. 0:53:46.680 --> 0:53:49.080 To be like, I got you. 0:53:49.320 --> 0:53:50.319 How do we get each other? 0:53:50.840 --> 0:53:54.080 Support each other with our mouths and with our dollars, 0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:58.840 with our time, you thoughts and prayers. That's fine, but 0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:01.719 I would love prayer is an action. There is what 0:54:01.760 --> 0:54:04.839 would get my strategy, and then God showed me what 0:54:04.840 --> 0:54:06.720 what action I need to take. 0:54:07.360 --> 0:54:10.120 Thank you, Thank you, Evan. I appreciate that, and I 0:54:10.320 --> 0:54:12.160 got you as well. When I see you, I'm gonna 0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:22.799 give you a big church tug because true, yes, all right, 0:54:23.719 --> 0:54:26.120 thank you just what Jesus got it. Thank you for 0:54:26.200 --> 0:54:29.960 your work as a journalist, for speaking truth to power, 0:54:30.120 --> 0:54:33.400 and for standing your ground and asking the questions that 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:35.600 need to be asked. Because at the root of all 0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:38.200 this was a very important story, uh, and that is 0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:42.520 the potential federalization of cities, mostly black cities, across our country. 0:54:42.560 --> 0:54:44.879 So thank you for asking about Memphis. I do want 0:54:44.920 --> 0:54:48.440 to acknowledge that, yes, of course, we are familiar with 0:54:48.480 --> 0:54:50.840 the stories around the hanging. I've actually been making calls. 0:54:51.719 --> 0:54:54.160 There was similar stories that happened in Mississippi that I 0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.360 carried on my show that I had at MSNBC. So 0:54:56.440 --> 0:54:58.359 that is something that we'll be looking into and talking 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:02.319 about here on Native lampod. But journalism continues as it 0:55:02.400 --> 0:55:04.920 always will. And what I have to remind myself as 0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:07.640 i'll share this with you, is Ido b Wells had 0:55:07.640 --> 0:55:10.560 a fraction of what we had. The Chicago Defender had 0:55:10.600 --> 0:55:12.960 a fraction of what we had, and they were still 0:55:13.040 --> 0:55:18.240 able to inform the masses, not always opine, but inform. 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:20.920 And there is a huge difference. And right now is 0:55:20.960 --> 0:55:25.160 a time for reading, consuming news and reading books. You guys, 0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:27.919 it is a time for reading books. So just thank 0:55:27.960 --> 0:55:30.719 you for all of that, and I look forward to 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:34.320 seeing you this week at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's 0:55:34.320 --> 0:55:37.160 Annual Legislative Conference. As you know, we'll be broadcasting live 0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:40.279 from the dinner, so if you happen to be in 0:55:40.320 --> 0:55:42.759 the area, definitely please dot buy so we can see 0:55:42.760 --> 0:55:46.080 you in person. We'll be broadcasting live there I believe 0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.200 five to seven, yes, so you can catch us on 0:55:49.239 --> 0:55:51.760 YouTube there and you of course can catch us in person. 0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:54.040 Looking forward to seeing you soon and thank you so 0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:54.880 much for joining us. 0:55:54.880 --> 0:55:55.080 Evan. 0:55:55.200 --> 0:55:56.279 We'll have to have you back real soon. 0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:59.160 Thank you, thank you, thank you so much. We were 0:55:59.160 --> 0:55:59.960 made for the movement. 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:07.520 That's that's all right, Thank you, Thank you, Andrew. I 0:56:07.680 --> 0:56:09.440 you know, I wanted to ask you a question, but 0:56:09.480 --> 0:56:11.399 I was trying to debate if I should ask while 0:56:11.440 --> 0:56:11.680 she was. 0:56:11.680 --> 0:56:12.040 There or not. 0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:15.240 But I mean, you, since you were I think nineteen, 0:56:15.360 --> 0:56:19.399 have been an elected office. You have been pressed by 0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:23.000 uh members of the press about so many things or 0:56:23.160 --> 0:56:26.359 policy to your personal life. I have never seen you 0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:30.719 be disrespectful to a member of the press. You have 0:56:30.800 --> 0:56:33.000 shown up because I hate what people call Donald Trump, 0:56:33.080 --> 0:56:35.239 like this macho man, this big strong man, and this 0:56:35.320 --> 0:56:35.919 alpha male. 0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:36.600 No he's not. 0:56:36.800 --> 0:56:40.440 He's a little Beyonce really, And you have never like 0:56:40.480 --> 0:56:41.880 you have staid there like a man. 0:56:41.960 --> 0:56:42.399 Every time. 0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:43.839 It's like, I'm gonna look you in your eye, I'm 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.280 gonna answer your question. If I don't have an answer 0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:48.879 for you, I'm gonna get back to you. I mean you, 0:56:49.280 --> 0:56:51.560 and you didn't bullshit people, you know, like you were 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:54.960 genuinely vested in the work, and you respected members of 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.319 the press to engage them. So I'm just curious when 0:56:58.360 --> 0:57:00.799 you see things like this happen, Like, what is your 0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:04.040 reaction as someone who's an elected official for so long 0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:06.160 that behavior would not have been tolerated. 0:57:06.400 --> 0:57:11.320 Tiffany Is It's one it's hard to even posit yourself 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:15.239 in the mind of a Donald Trump, right, because scientists 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:18.760 are going to have to diagnose a new level of 0:57:18.960 --> 0:57:23.320 megalomania after Donald Trump. I mean, when you take and 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:26.800 fullness his speech to the United Nations, if you could 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:32.840 call it that, I mean, on so many levels he 0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:37.120 went from you know, high mighty two in the gutter 0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.280 to dig in the graves too. I mean, it was 0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:45.240 just it was, it was, it was unbelievable. I mean, 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.760 I don't want to say unprecedented because that's overused. And 0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:51.480 you know, every day it becomes more precedented because people then, 0:57:52.120 --> 0:57:55.040 you know, follow his example and try to out Trump 0:57:55.120 --> 0:57:57.760 Trump right. Republicans are now trying to out Trump Trump 0:57:57.800 --> 0:58:01.200 and so. But but these guys who were so egotistical, 0:58:02.320 --> 0:58:04.840 they're so caught up in themselves they can't even His 0:58:05.160 --> 0:58:08.440 umbrage that he took was fueled, in my opinion, not 0:58:08.600 --> 0:58:14.280 only by the typical level of egotism, but it was 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:16.919 it was further fueled by the fact that the man 0:58:17.240 --> 0:58:20.840 has it. And for black women, he got issues with 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.440 black man too. But but but they're never on display 0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:27.680 quite the way his the umbridge. He takes from black women. 0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.760 I don't know where. I mean, there's Tiss James out there, 0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:34.320 there's Fanny Uh down in Georgia. 0:58:34.760 --> 0:58:34.880 Uh. 0:58:35.680 --> 0:58:38.000 There's obviously April Ryan that was in the White House 0:58:38.040 --> 0:58:41.120 Press Corps. There's folks like you and Angela. I mean 0:58:42.400 --> 0:58:45.440 absolutely so. So he feels very held to account and 0:58:45.600 --> 0:58:49.680 almost almost like and this is actually a truism. I 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.320 think it's sort of like black women are not like 0:58:53.200 --> 0:58:56.320 are not are not docile and believe in the hype. 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:59.000 It's you all have a third eye that says I 0:58:59.240 --> 0:59:03.800 see you, I see all of you, and you're not 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:08.160 really flammocks by the by the contours, by the makeup. 0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:10.320 It's like, okay, you got makeup, you had a nice 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.760 suit on, but I know who you are and I'm 0:59:12.800 --> 0:59:14.880 gonna ask you this question and respect for the office, 0:59:14.880 --> 0:59:19.400 but also in full awareness of who you are. Donald 0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.520 Trump does not want to be seen for who he is. 0:59:22.600 --> 0:59:25.240 You all seem to cut through in a way that 0:59:25.600 --> 0:59:29.800 that causes him injury, and he takes it out like 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:34.360 any third grader, and no offense of third graders I got, 0:59:34.440 --> 0:59:37.040 I got one at home. But he's a narcissist, as 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:40.440 most of you know about me, me me, me, me, 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.880 me me right, And and that's sort of what it 0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:44.680 is for him. And he can't see the forest for 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:48.400 the trees, wouldn't spot the tree anyway unless it was 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:52.080 a direct resemblance of himself. That's how in himself he is. 0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:55.680 He's a narcissist. This behavior is not tolerated. But Tiffany, 0:59:55.680 --> 0:59:58.120 I just want to quickly draw the point that all 0:59:58.200 --> 1:00:00.560 of this is connected back to that result that we 1:00:00.640 --> 1:00:05.040 started this show with. When Democrats and our leaders give 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:10.280 a permission structure for Republicans to rewrite history, whitewash history, 1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:14.520 you know, expel any of the truth about a person's 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:19.760 character that is not one and a positive light, we 1:00:19.960 --> 1:00:23.000 create the permission structure for them to continue to do that. 1:00:23.480 --> 1:00:29.640 When we join in with the kind of really propaganda 1:00:30.520 --> 1:00:33.720 that the Republicans were pushing through this resolution. If you 1:00:33.920 --> 1:00:37.040 wanted to decry political violence, they had the option of 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:43.240 producing a resolution that was titled decrying political violence. They 1:00:43.320 --> 1:00:46.280 had the opportunity to do that. They didn't don't buy 1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:48.880 that as an excuse. So all I'm saying is is 1:00:49.120 --> 1:00:52.120 when we let them get away with stuff like Charlie Kirk, 1:00:52.160 --> 1:00:54.200 and then there's a road, and then there's going to 1:00:54.240 --> 1:00:58.040 be a national holiday, and then there's so when you 1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:02.040 give a little bit, he takes a mile. Check out 1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:04.400 his social media. He said, maybe I'll take ABC back 1:01:04.440 --> 1:01:06.800 to court. The last time they gave me, I don't know, 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:10.120 twenty seven million. This time it'll be much more lucrative. 1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:10.360 Right. 1:01:10.520 --> 1:01:12.960 He doesn't respect the fact that they that they they'll 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:16.360 bide to him. He didn't respect that before. He sees 1:01:16.400 --> 1:01:18.240 it as a weakness and now he wants to go 1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:21.360 in for the kill. Yeah, and we got to get better, 1:01:21.880 --> 1:01:25.040 that's what That's what we're losing because we're learning the 1:01:25.080 --> 1:01:25.680 wrong lesson. 1:01:25.880 --> 1:01:26.040 Yeah. 1:01:26.320 --> 1:01:28.320 I echo all of that, and I know a lot 1:01:28.400 --> 1:01:32.720 of our viewers have the same frustrations. And so I 1:01:34.000 --> 1:01:36.560 one thank you all for tuning in, for sending in 1:01:36.640 --> 1:01:40.080 your questions, your videos. If you like this discussion, please 1:01:40.160 --> 1:01:43.680 share it. You know, we're not always giving a how to, 1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.040 and this is what you can do sometimes. It's just 1:01:46.120 --> 1:01:49.360 good to be in community with each other and recognize 1:01:49.400 --> 1:01:52.480 the threat give a name to what we're feeling. So 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.800 we try to do that here every week on native 1:01:54.880 --> 1:01:57.960 Land Pod. So please be sure to subscribe and share 1:01:58.000 --> 1:01:59.520 everything with us. And if you do have a video, 1:01:59.520 --> 1:02:01.520 it doesn't have to be a question as long as 1:02:01.560 --> 1:02:03.720 it's under sixty seconds. You can DM it to us 1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:08.200 on our Instagram native land Pod handle. There you can 1:02:08.240 --> 1:02:10.600 also email it to us. I'll give all that information 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:13.160 at the end of the show. But please do share 1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:16.720 this conversation with with your crew with drop it in 1:02:16.760 --> 1:02:20.120 your group chat. Because what I've noticed, Andrew is when 1:02:20.200 --> 1:02:22.880 we talk about it, it is like loosening the bottle 1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:24.920 a bit, you know, like it is at least I 1:02:25.000 --> 1:02:28.240 can say this out loud to someone. And I'm so 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:30.120 touched by our viewers for Wanging. 1:02:30.200 --> 1:02:30.320 Oh. 1:02:30.520 --> 1:02:34.800 Speaking of the survey, Yes, thank you guys so much 1:02:34.840 --> 1:02:37.560 for Wang And I went through and read every single comment, 1:02:38.160 --> 1:02:39.760 so for all you know, I live in the comments, 1:02:39.800 --> 1:02:44.439 So for everybody who took the time to not only 1:02:44.480 --> 1:02:47.720 fill out the survey but also give very thoughtful feedback 1:02:48.480 --> 1:02:53.200 that was constructive criticism, celebration of what we do, suggestions 1:02:53.280 --> 1:02:56.800 for what we can do better, just every single comment. Truly, 1:02:56.920 --> 1:02:59.880 it made me feel so touched it, truly did Andrew 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:04.080 the overwhelming thought on Andrew, and I'm not going freshy 1:03:04.160 --> 1:03:05.880 today because I know you get tired of us and 1:03:05.880 --> 1:03:08.680 asking you this question. But seriously, as you overwhelmingly people 1:03:08.840 --> 1:03:13.480 were asking you to please run for office. So just 1:03:13.560 --> 1:03:14.600 putting that out there. 1:03:14.720 --> 1:03:17.200 Well, I will. I want to join you in thanking 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:22.840 our viewers, the listener family. No, hell no, but but 1:03:23.120 --> 1:03:27.440 I look, God works, right, and so I'm just you know, 1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:31.080 I will be obedient. Yeah, but but but only until 1:03:31.640 --> 1:03:34.360 that that shifts such as that will take place. But 1:03:36.440 --> 1:03:39.720 I was blown away by the number of people who 1:03:40.400 --> 1:03:43.400 who decided to take the survey into respond. It told 1:03:43.480 --> 1:03:50.440 me that our listeners, our family out there, really they 1:03:50.600 --> 1:03:54.280 have ownership in this platform. You're there, and because of 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:58.280 that ownership, we have to and I feel this every 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:01.600 week we have to be at the best of what 1:04:01.720 --> 1:04:05.800 we can be when we come in every week, knowing 1:04:05.920 --> 1:04:08.000 what it is that we need to know, not not 1:04:08.200 --> 1:04:12.600 trafficking and misinformation, making sure that we've tried to at 1:04:12.720 --> 1:04:16.720 least assess something from the various lenses that we all 1:04:16.840 --> 1:04:21.240 bring to this table. And while it may not be perfect, 1:04:21.400 --> 1:04:23.040 it will be the best of what we can give 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.560 at that time and what we don't know, admit to 1:04:25.720 --> 1:04:28.440 not knowing, and make room for further growth if it's necessary. 1:04:28.880 --> 1:04:32.400 But I just it touched me to know that as 1:04:32.480 --> 1:04:36.280 much as I love this show and you all, as 1:04:36.400 --> 1:04:39.560 my sisters and my and my obviously my coworkers and 1:04:39.640 --> 1:04:43.520 friends here, that there's a whole squad of folks who 1:04:43.560 --> 1:04:46.800 feel as invested, you know, as I think we feel 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:50.600 with the responsibility of this platform, the opportunity and the 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:55.760 privilege of it, but in this time also the organizing 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:59.520 power that I think that we can possess as it 1:05:00.400 --> 1:05:03.880 as it is required, and so it's it's soul food. 1:05:03.960 --> 1:05:06.520 It is food for my soul, and it was really 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:09.920 comforting to see that it's food for a lot of 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:13.720 people's souls. And so consistent with your with your earlier requests, 1:05:13.760 --> 1:05:17.800 please share, you just subscribe, bring other people to this 1:05:18.000 --> 1:05:20.560 space so that they can also find some level of 1:05:20.640 --> 1:05:25.320 release and hope. I think as as as we come 1:05:25.360 --> 1:05:26.040 across one of. 1:05:26.080 --> 1:05:28.120 The comments, the only one I kind of disagreed with. 1:05:28.240 --> 1:05:31.720 Somebody was like, uh, Tiffany, what was a few comments 1:05:31.800 --> 1:05:33.640 like this? But one person got very specific and said 1:05:33.640 --> 1:05:35.760 that I should talk more about my personal life. 1:05:36.080 --> 1:05:37.960 And I was like, good, dang, y'all want me to 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:38.840 sit here naked? 1:05:38.960 --> 1:05:40.200 Did I take you with my therapy? 1:05:43.280 --> 1:05:45.920 We want you to name check this man? Talk about 1:05:50.560 --> 1:05:50.920 what else? 1:05:50.960 --> 1:05:51.080 Do y? 1:05:51.080 --> 1:05:51.560 I want to know? 1:05:52.160 --> 1:05:54.600 What can I say? I try to be really open, 1:05:54.680 --> 1:05:57.120 but anyway, I really loved, I enjoyed. 1:05:57.560 --> 1:05:59.479 I find you very open about it. But I also 1:05:59.600 --> 1:06:03.120 con I also conflate our one on one conversations, probably 1:06:03.240 --> 1:06:04.280 with what we may have said. 1:06:05.440 --> 1:06:08.240 Sometimes it feels like I'm just talking to you and Angela. 1:06:08.800 --> 1:06:10.520 And then when I see people out on the street 1:06:10.560 --> 1:06:12.560 and they repeat something that I've shared here that was 1:06:12.720 --> 1:06:14.920 very personal to me, I'm like, why do. 1:06:14.960 --> 1:06:21.840 You even know that? I yes, And it gives people 1:06:22.040 --> 1:06:25.200 a sense of like they know me, you know, and. 1:06:25.200 --> 1:06:27.920 You were talking about this, I was like, oh, I forget. 1:06:27.960 --> 1:06:30.520 I literally forget that there's a whole audience out there 1:06:30.600 --> 1:06:31.360 listen to what we say. 1:06:31.440 --> 1:06:34.439 But Tiffany, that's a gift to the extent that people 1:06:34.680 --> 1:06:36.600 feel a level of comfort. I get this all the 1:06:36.680 --> 1:06:39.919 time with you know, out about my kids. I don't 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:44.880 post on social media, but our jay is, uh, she 1:06:45.120 --> 1:06:49.040 is very fanatical about you know, the share so I'll 1:06:49.080 --> 1:06:51.600 hear things from people about my kids. Oh my goodness. 1:06:55.640 --> 1:06:58.160 But at the same token, again there's a buy in 1:06:58.280 --> 1:07:01.760 there and an owners it almost a protection. I feel 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:04.000 like Carolina, you're gonna be out here, there are eyes 1:07:04.040 --> 1:07:07.960 on you, girl, you better watch your watch yourself and 1:07:08.040 --> 1:07:10.200 so on and so forth. But it is a gift 1:07:10.400 --> 1:07:12.600 that that you're able to invite people into your space. 1:07:12.920 --> 1:07:14.640 I think we all try to do it to the 1:07:14.720 --> 1:07:17.160 level that they feel comfortable. Was like miss Rye and 1:07:17.240 --> 1:07:19.160 the antipy, Yes, yes. 1:07:19.840 --> 1:07:21.840 Yes, well I I really I enjoy it. That was 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:23.440 my favorite part reading all the comments. 1:07:23.480 --> 1:07:26.000 So and of course I always read all the comments 1:07:26.040 --> 1:07:30.280 on YouTube, and they we're pretty consistent, Like I find like, oh, YouTube, 1:07:30.280 --> 1:07:32.200 I think gives me a snapshot and if there's ever 1:07:32.280 --> 1:07:34.840 anything I need to gut check myself on or just 1:07:34.960 --> 1:07:35.520 check myself. 1:07:35.760 --> 1:07:38.200 And I think the comments are really hopeful. So thank 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:39.760 you guys. We should get the call. 1:07:39.960 --> 1:07:41.720 As I always say to you, can you distill for 1:07:41.880 --> 1:07:44.240 me what I need to know is do it. 1:07:44.400 --> 1:07:46.480 I know people say it's bad to be in the comments, 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:47.600 but I can take it. 1:07:47.800 --> 1:07:49.640 No no, no, no, no, I don't. I don't think that. 1:07:51.120 --> 1:07:53.200 Stay out the comments. But I really can't. I can 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:54.440 take it. When people have criticisms. 1:07:54.440 --> 1:07:55.840 Of course, they are always like the bots and like 1:07:55.920 --> 1:07:57.760 the Maga people, so I kind of skip past those. 1:07:58.120 --> 1:08:01.120 But people who have great feedback for me, even when 1:08:01.160 --> 1:08:03.280 it's criticism, or even when it's something I disagree with, 1:08:03.560 --> 1:08:05.840 I do disappreciate because they took the time to say 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:09.000 anything about the show. So I keep them coming, and 1:08:09.080 --> 1:08:11.640 definitely feel free to hop on video and send us 1:08:11.680 --> 1:08:13.760 a comment, even in disagreement, and we'll do a better 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:16.280 job of very specifically answering your questions, because that was 1:08:16.320 --> 1:08:18.040 some of the feedback we got as well. Well, you 1:08:18.080 --> 1:08:19.840 know viewers that ask a question and y'all kind of 1:08:19.880 --> 1:08:21.600 talk about it, but then you move on. So we 1:08:21.680 --> 1:08:25.599 want to start specifically addressing your questions or comments. 1:08:26.040 --> 1:08:27.120 And we are always. 1:08:26.920 --> 1:08:29.840 Thrilled to hear from you and just give you all 1:08:29.840 --> 1:08:34.040 the utmost respect, and so even if our are playing 1:08:34.120 --> 1:08:37.080 the dozens sometimes comes to consent the way, we want 1:08:37.120 --> 1:08:39.600 you to know we have the utmost appreciation and gratitude 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:42.160 for you, and we'll be more intentional about expressing that. 1:08:42.320 --> 1:08:44.600 Yeah. Yeah, as my grandma would say, charge it to 1:08:44.680 --> 1:08:46.759 our heads, yeah, not our hearts exactly. 1:08:56.520 --> 1:08:58.120 I want to get to call to action because I 1:08:58.280 --> 1:09:01.719 have a call to action and it comes with a video. 1:09:02.600 --> 1:09:05.519 So for those of you who are watching, you can 1:09:06.200 --> 1:09:09.200 see my call to action and I'll talk our listening 1:09:09.280 --> 1:09:13.960 audience through it. So I was at my home and 1:09:14.160 --> 1:09:16.800 I went out back our back entrance, and I walked 1:09:16.840 --> 1:09:19.599 past a car. It was around eighty degrees on this day, 1:09:19.720 --> 1:09:23.679 and there was a dog inside the car by himself, 1:09:24.080 --> 1:09:26.240 with the window rolled down just as much I'd say 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:31.040 about five inches, and the dog was howling and barking, 1:09:32.080 --> 1:09:34.200 and he appeared I thought he was a German shepherd. 1:09:35.040 --> 1:09:38.200 And so I'm looking around. I'm asking people outside. I'm like, 1:09:38.240 --> 1:09:40.080 do you guys know whose car this is? Whose dog 1:09:40.160 --> 1:09:40.320 is this? 1:09:40.400 --> 1:09:41.760 And they're like, we don't know. The dog has been 1:09:41.800 --> 1:09:42.800 in there since this morning. 1:09:43.840 --> 1:09:45.600 So I went and got some peanut butter in a 1:09:45.600 --> 1:09:48.080 wooden spatula, just in case he wasn't a good boy. 1:09:48.200 --> 1:09:49.519 But he was a good boy. I didn't even need it. 1:09:49.560 --> 1:09:50.759 I stuck my hand in the window. 1:09:51.120 --> 1:09:53.599 The car was very hot, so if it's eighty degrees outside, 1:09:53.600 --> 1:09:55.280 it's probably about a hundred degrees inside. 1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:58.000 And he was very sweet. He licked my hand. 1:09:58.080 --> 1:10:00.200 I gave him a little peanut butter, and I broke 1:10:00.240 --> 1:10:03.240 in this man's car. I unlocked the door and got 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:06.200 this dog out. I got his leash, which was in 1:10:06.320 --> 1:10:08.519 the car. I gave him water, and I just started 1:10:08.600 --> 1:10:12.000 knocking on you know, one apartment one O one, apartment 1:10:12.000 --> 1:10:13.000 one O two, apartment one. 1:10:12.960 --> 1:10:15.120 O three, asking whose dog is this? 1:10:15.280 --> 1:10:17.679 Who left his dog in the car? Long story short, 1:10:18.240 --> 1:10:20.760 I could for a few hours. I couldn't find the 1:10:21.080 --> 1:10:24.160 dog's human, so the dog was in my place. I 1:10:24.240 --> 1:10:26.200 took the dog to play fetch. As you can see, 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:30.160 he was a naughty little brat and just barked and 1:10:30.360 --> 1:10:33.080 lung made me like throw the ball, but just he 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:35.240 was a Dutch Shepherd and I wasn't familiar with his 1:10:35.360 --> 1:10:36.320 breed a Dutch Shepherd. 1:10:36.880 --> 1:10:40.920 And my CTA is, don't be a shitty human being 1:10:41.400 --> 1:10:42.160 and leave your. 1:10:42.080 --> 1:10:46.439 Dog in a hot fing car. Even if it feels 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:48.880 breezy to us. They are wearing a fur coat. So 1:10:49.000 --> 1:10:51.360 imagine sitting in a car and it's one hundred degrees 1:10:51.400 --> 1:10:54.040 and you're in a fur coat, even for ten minutes, 1:10:54.120 --> 1:10:55.879 a dog can slide into. 1:10:56.360 --> 1:10:59.479 Slip and have a heat stroke. The other thing is some. 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:04.240 People try to normalize keeping dogs outside. If your cold, 1:11:04.360 --> 1:11:07.360 the dog is cold. If you're hot, the dog is hot. Again, 1:11:07.520 --> 1:11:11.439 they're in the fur coat. We have domesticated dogs and 1:11:11.520 --> 1:11:14.280 it's just not okay. So when I posted this, of 1:11:14.360 --> 1:11:16.679 course people started telling me their own stories about rescuing 1:11:16.760 --> 1:11:21.960 dogs from outside. These are innocent animals. Please be kind 1:11:22.040 --> 1:11:24.840 to these innocent animals. Some of it is ignorance. I'm 1:11:24.880 --> 1:11:28.560 Jackie Reed and I are like big, big animal advocates, 1:11:28.600 --> 1:11:30.920 and we are constantly damning people who say, oh I 1:11:31.000 --> 1:11:32.600 do that, I leave my dog here, I left my 1:11:32.680 --> 1:11:34.320 dog in the car, and some people just don't know. 1:11:34.560 --> 1:11:39.200 So we're trying to inform, not shame. So my cta is, 1:11:39.520 --> 1:11:43.519 please please treat these dogs like they are two year 1:11:43.560 --> 1:11:45.280 old toddlers, because that's what they are. 1:11:45.400 --> 1:11:45.799 Essentially. 1:11:46.200 --> 1:11:48.240 They have the mental capacity of a two year old. 1:11:48.280 --> 1:11:49.800 They have the hearts of a two year old. They 1:11:49.880 --> 1:11:52.599 just want to love and be loved. And you would 1:11:52.720 --> 1:11:55.200 never leave a two year old in a hot car, 1:11:55.360 --> 1:11:57.840 Nor would you ever walk past a hot car and 1:11:57.920 --> 1:11:59.400 see a two year old in there and not do 1:11:59.479 --> 1:12:01.639 anything about it. I get on my soapbox a lot. 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:03.719 Thank you for all your comments. By the way, loving 1:12:03.800 --> 1:12:06.800 my K nine of PSAs. 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:09.360 But that is my call to action. Just be kinder 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:10.160 to these animals. 1:12:10.200 --> 1:12:11.840 I'm not a cat person, but even cats like just 1:12:11.920 --> 1:12:14.080 be kind of animals, like, don't be shitty human beings. 1:12:14.400 --> 1:12:17.880 So even the skitzophantic casts please go back and watch 1:12:17.960 --> 1:12:18.519 that episode. 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:23.240 I ask, how did you so did the did you 1:12:23.320 --> 1:12:24.760 find the I did so. 1:12:25.040 --> 1:12:27.960 The human as you'll see in the video I posted 1:12:28.000 --> 1:12:30.240 on I posted on Instagram, but you won't see it 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:32.560 here on the show, he was a worker. He was 1:12:32.640 --> 1:12:35.000 doing work for someone in one of the apartments. I 1:12:35.000 --> 1:12:38.320 don't think he was all the way together. He was 1:12:38.360 --> 1:12:41.400 an older gentleman I think, maybe a little bit of dementia. 1:12:42.240 --> 1:12:44.040 But when he saw me, I think he thought I 1:12:44.160 --> 1:12:46.360 was gonna like press charges or like be mean to him. 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:48.439 So he was a little defensive and he was like, 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:50.360 you know, I can't because I had given the dog 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:54.360 a squeaky toy and like fed the dog, you know, 1:12:54.560 --> 1:12:56.639 like made sure the dog was saying. And he said 1:12:56.680 --> 1:12:57.760 the first thing he said to me was, you know, 1:12:57.800 --> 1:13:00.840 I can't pay you for this, You know what, sir, 1:13:01.360 --> 1:13:02.760 time with the dog wasn't enough. 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:03.240 I hear it. 1:13:03.520 --> 1:13:05.320 But I didn't want to leave the dog in a 1:13:05.400 --> 1:13:07.240 hot car. You have to be careful about leaving the 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:08.920 dog in a hot car. But the dog was very 1:13:08.960 --> 1:13:11.840 happy to see him. If the dog didn't want to 1:13:11.880 --> 1:13:13.479 go with him, he was not getting the dog back 1:13:13.479 --> 1:13:15.320 because I felt there was some abuse or something. But 1:13:15.400 --> 1:13:18.519 the dog wagonstail ran up to him and it was 1:13:18.560 --> 1:13:21.280 a happy reunion. And I think the man just didn't 1:13:21.320 --> 1:13:23.840 really think about because he had been there in the 1:13:23.880 --> 1:13:26.360 morning when it was like sixty degrees and it got hotter, 1:13:26.640 --> 1:13:30.280 the sun changed position, and this poor dog was miserable 1:13:30.320 --> 1:13:30.720 in that car. 1:13:30.880 --> 1:13:31.559 So I'm happy I did. 1:13:31.760 --> 1:13:33.360 The dog was like, thank you, Daddy for the play date. 1:13:33.560 --> 1:13:35.040 That dog didn't even look back to me and say 1:13:35.080 --> 1:13:37.800 thank you. That dog was like, deuces, let's go, thanks 1:13:37.800 --> 1:13:39.320 for the ball, Deuces. 1:13:39.160 --> 1:13:40.720 I'm going back to my humans. I see you. 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:46.839 Yes, well, I will always advocate for animals, especially my puppies, 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:49.160 especially pit bulls. I don't want to hear any pitbull. 1:13:49.400 --> 1:13:53.719 They're my favorite dog ever. Anyho, that's my soapbox ri day, Andrew, 1:13:53.880 --> 1:13:54.439 thank you for that. 1:13:55.320 --> 1:13:58.720 You know, I actually don't have a big win to day. 1:13:58.720 --> 1:14:02.160 I really just the stories today really kind of moved me. 1:14:02.920 --> 1:14:07.000 Not kind of they move me. It just put back 1:14:07.040 --> 1:14:11.880 front and center the ways in which our women continue 1:14:11.960 --> 1:14:16.240 to put themselves, their bodies, their mental health, their life 1:14:16.320 --> 1:14:22.439 security safety on the line to represent for our community, 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.360 for their professions. And again, they don't think they're doing 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:27.160 heroic tasks because they're going to work and they're doing 1:14:27.240 --> 1:14:30.920 a job, and they understand that obligation and responsibility and 1:14:30.960 --> 1:14:34.160 they're trying to do it to the hilp. It isn't 1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:39.080 these individual journalists who are trying to make themselves a story. 1:14:39.160 --> 1:14:43.800 They're trying to cover the stories that matter. It is 1:14:43.960 --> 1:14:50.320 the dastard, disrespectful, near diabolical treatment that they receive on 1:14:50.479 --> 1:14:55.360 these places of work that then cause their individual stories 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:58.000 to them be put into focus. But that's not what 1:14:58.080 --> 1:15:01.640 they're asking for. Beauty is is that when it is 1:15:02.720 --> 1:15:08.160 brought to them, these women appear completely ready prepared for 1:15:08.400 --> 1:15:11.200 the moments that they get thrust into. And I guess 1:15:11.280 --> 1:15:13.080 if I had anything, it would just be to lift 1:15:13.120 --> 1:15:15.720 them and cover them in prayer. We don't know what 1:15:15.840 --> 1:15:18.920 the days ahead hold. And I said this, I guess 1:15:19.040 --> 1:15:22.760 last week around love offerings, you know, particularly during this 1:15:22.840 --> 1:15:26.280 time where so many in our community are losing their 1:15:26.320 --> 1:15:29.600 ability to provide that we just be thoughtful if you 1:15:29.640 --> 1:15:31.920 are in a place of grace and you're in a 1:15:32.000 --> 1:15:35.000 place of maybe overflow, that we're thinking about how it 1:15:35.160 --> 1:15:37.719 is that we get resources back to our folks because 1:15:37.760 --> 1:15:40.719 we're all we have. So I'm gonna lift that again. 1:15:41.160 --> 1:15:41.840 Thank you for that. 1:15:42.520 --> 1:15:44.639 And just because you said this, I certainly don't want 1:15:44.640 --> 1:15:48.080 to leave out black men. We have stellar examples of 1:15:48.120 --> 1:15:51.639 black men in our community, starting with our own Andrew Gillum, 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:55.479 who is an amazing father, often share stories about being 1:15:55.680 --> 1:15:58.080 with his children running them back and forth to school, 1:15:58.640 --> 1:16:02.080 and even our Jay Andrews amazing white, will admit it's 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.160 rare that you'll ask kids like you want. 1:16:04.000 --> 1:16:05.000 To go a mommy or daddy? 1:16:05.080 --> 1:16:08.679 Your kids always like daddy, are yeaddy? 1:16:09.080 --> 1:16:11.360 Kids are like, I ain't got no problem with it. 1:16:11.760 --> 1:16:11.960 You know. 1:16:14.880 --> 1:16:17.759 We love that dynamic, to be honest, because it disrupts 1:16:17.840 --> 1:16:20.680 gender norms and so I love it, but. 1:16:20.880 --> 1:16:24.759 It also means I don't get to eat. It's always three. 1:16:24.600 --> 1:16:27.320 Of them, Like, he can't get a bite in those 1:16:27.360 --> 1:16:28.920 kids whatever he got they wanted. 1:16:29.160 --> 1:16:32.600 So even it's like idea like where black fathers like 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:37.000 all of that is born of white supremacy. And disinformation. 1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:40.400 We certainly know black fathers are amazing and necessary and 1:16:40.479 --> 1:16:41.000 just black men. 1:16:41.160 --> 1:16:41.720 We love y'all. 1:16:41.760 --> 1:16:44.559 So black folks are under attack collectively and we lock 1:16:44.760 --> 1:16:47.280 arms and hopefully we can do that with all communities 1:16:47.320 --> 1:16:50.560 of color. We'll be bringing on other voices outside of 1:16:50.640 --> 1:16:54.559 the community, Latino voices, API voices, Indigenous voices to dig 1:16:54.640 --> 1:16:57.200 into some of those topics in our coming episodes, so 1:16:57.320 --> 1:17:00.360 certainly please stay tuned for that. This was episode ninety eight. 1:17:00.439 --> 1:17:04.000 I can't believe we're almost to episode one hundred, so 1:17:04.160 --> 1:17:07.160 please plan the tune into our one hundred show because 1:17:07.160 --> 1:17:11.320 it will be a surprise and a celebration. Angela has 1:17:11.360 --> 1:17:13.800 to run she is off to a press conference. But 1:17:14.120 --> 1:17:17.320 her call to action she gave to us to share 1:17:17.360 --> 1:17:18.880 with you, and that is to please tune into our 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:23.000 live show this Saturday. We'll be broadcasting live from the 1:17:23.040 --> 1:17:27.240 Congressional Black Pocus Foundation's Annual Legislative Conference from five to seven, 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:29.519 and you can check that out on our YouTube. If 1:17:29.600 --> 1:17:31.640 you listen to this show after, you can still go 1:17:31.760 --> 1:17:34.439 back and check it out on YouTube and catch it. 1:17:34.560 --> 1:17:34.680 Then. 1:17:34.960 --> 1:17:38.080 Remember we're available on all platforms anywhere you get your 1:17:38.200 --> 1:17:40.840 podcasts and YouTube and If you're looking for more shows 1:17:40.920 --> 1:17:42.479 like this one, please check out o your shows on 1:17:42.560 --> 1:17:43.439 Reason Choice Media. 1:17:43.720 --> 1:17:45.320 Of course, my girl Jamel Hill. 1:17:45.920 --> 1:17:48.840 With Politics, who also did a really interesting column in 1:17:48.880 --> 1:17:49.920 the Atlantic this week. 1:17:49.960 --> 1:17:52.400 I encourage you to check it out. She spoke with 1:17:52.560 --> 1:17:56.640 Luke Boom Boom boom that Luke about. 1:17:56.880 --> 1:18:00.160 Censorship, which I think was an interesting conversation to be 1:18:00.200 --> 1:18:03.559 of course, remember when Luke in the eighties the rapper 1:18:03.760 --> 1:18:06.679 was him self censored. So a really interesting piece in Atlantic. 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:08.720 To check that out, and so'll likely talk about it 1:18:08.800 --> 1:18:11.240 on Spolitics. There's of course Off the Cup with Ssie 1:18:11.280 --> 1:18:15.599 Cuff and now you know with Noah Deborasso. Give those 1:18:15.680 --> 1:18:18.439 a follow, and don't forget to follow us on social 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:21.479 media and subscribe to our text or email lists on 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:26.240 nativeland dot com. We are Tiffany Crost, Andrew Gillim and 1:18:26.320 --> 1:18:30.120 Angela Rye. There are we think four hundred and four 1:18:30.240 --> 1:18:33.240 days and to these alleged midterm elections. And I've even 1:18:33.280 --> 1:18:38.080 heard their comments about me being so unhopeful about mid terms, 1:18:38.120 --> 1:18:39.800 and people don't like when I say that because they 1:18:39.840 --> 1:18:42.320 think it a depressed the vote. No, we are going 1:18:42.400 --> 1:18:44.680 to fight and do everything we can and show up 1:18:44.720 --> 1:18:49.880 and drove for midterms. My doubt is that they will 1:18:49.880 --> 1:18:51.960 be free and fair elections. But as long as we 1:18:52.040 --> 1:18:54.240 keep the fight going and beat them back at every turn, 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:59.960 perhaps we will overthrow an authoritarian an authoritarian government. 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:02.080 So we'll keep talking about that here. 1:19:03.080 --> 1:19:04.840 Welcome home, Welcome. 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:06.400 Morning. 1:19:06.760 --> 1:19:09.280 Thank you for joining the Natives attention of with the 1:19:09.400 --> 1:19:12.160 info and all of the latest rock gillim and cross 1:19:12.240 --> 1:19:13.920 connected to the statements. 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:15.240 That you leave on our socials. 1:19:15.280 --> 1:19:18.519 Thank you sincerely for the patients reason for your choice 1:19:18.600 --> 1:19:19.000 is cleared. 1:19:19.200 --> 1:19:23.040 So grateful it took the execute roads for serve. 1:19:22.920 --> 1:19:25.479 Defend and protect the truth even in paste. 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