1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. Single best idea is, 2 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: if you're in the equity market, follow bonds. You learn 3 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: this always the hard way by enjoying losing money. It's 4 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: an inverse relationship. Price up, yield down, price down, yield up, 5 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: and this morning, decidedly it was price up, yield down. 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: There was some real tension in the market in the 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: five six seven am hour. It got a little bit better, 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,639 Speaker 1: but frankly, as the market's open as we tape this 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 1: not so nice out there, we'll have to see. We 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: had some good voices to talk to. The first one 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 1: we talked to was Holger Schmeting, just definitive at Berenberg Bank, 12 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: with a wonderful Transatlantic perspective. Holger Schmeting on tariffs. 13 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 2: Of course, the US tariffs are not yet fully reflected 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: in US consumer prices. There is some further upward pressure 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: on US consumer prices to come. Also, many raw materials 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: are telling a very different story, namely that global inflation 17 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: pressures will stay a little elevated or could rise over time, 18 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: and longer term simply labor shortages on both sides of 19 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 2: the Atlantic, and also longer term in China labor shortages 20 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: will probably mean in the end the rebound in wage pressures, 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,759 Speaker 2: perhaps not immediately, but say next year and thereafter. So 22 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 2: I would not bet too much on global disinflation. 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: Olger Schmieding of Berenberg Bank. This morning, Dan Skelley joined us, 24 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: So Morgan Stanley Wealth Management, really really interesting discussion here 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:45,479 Speaker 1: about the allocation now, but particularly about the stress of AI. 26 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 3: Let's listen number one. I think it's one of these 27 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: many examples of dissonance at the moment. On the one hand, 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 3: the market is fearful over AI spending. On the other hand, 29 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: of the market saying software is going to be disrupted. 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: So I can't explain that one in terms of efficacy 31 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: versus is disruption. And look, I would say not all software, 32 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: not to be that completely out of consensus, but not 33 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 3: all software is created equal. 34 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: Dan Skelle here in a four day workweekis with Morgan 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: Stanley as well PCE inflation the back end of the week, 36 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Michael McKee saying that's a key key economic data point 37 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,399 Speaker 1: for maybe a fed on pause. We will see. We'll 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: have all in economics, finance, investment, and international relations for 39 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: you through this week on podcasts. On Apple, on Spotify, 40 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 1: on YouTube podcasts. It's single best idea