1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: And welcome in Lake. Kick is Live. It is Thursday night, 2 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: July twenty ninth, the Year of our Lord, twenty twenty one. 3 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: Jam packed, This jam pack can be. Don't forget even 4 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: though we've got a lot of expansion to talk about. 5 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: It's a historic day in college football. We will get 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: to that. We're thirty five days away from kickoff, and 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that week two kickoff, not the 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: week zero kickoff, so I guess we would technically call 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: it week one. But the bottom line is jam packed 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: is really an understatement to describe what our shows are 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: going to be like over the next month. I'm happy 12 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: to have you with us. We've done phenomenal traffic. Our 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: most viewed shows ever have been happening in the last 14 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Wildlift, college football story in several generations, 15 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: so many layers to this onion. We're going to react 16 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: to all of it. Things have been happening. A lot 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: of reporting is coming out even as we go on 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: air right now, which explains why I kind of sound 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: out of breath. Colin and I've been running around the 20 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: studio here trying to make sure we have everything. Is 21 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: the printer working, Is it even still in the office, 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: et cetera. We've got some circle games to talk about tonight, 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: weeks seven through ten, the College Football Playoff. Do you 24 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: hear that? Do you see the smoke that's coming from 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: the tires on the bus that is screeching to a 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: halt because of said expansion. So we're going to touch 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: on that because that's a whole different angle to this story. 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: That's why it makes it so wild. And boy is 29 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: this not a huge moment, not for Texas, not for Oklahoma, 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: but for Jimbo Fisher. We talked about the Aggies a 31 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: little bit the other night. I dare say I had 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: maybe a little different angle on it than a lot 33 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: of people have, and I'm going to continue that tonight 34 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: because this is going to define Jimbo Fisher. You may 35 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: think a guy who's already won a national championship, his 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: legacy is already defined. I think maybe not. I think 37 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 1: there may be some things coming in the near future 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: that ultimately defined Jimbo Fisher's legacy. At Late Kick, Josh, 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: I told you it's going to be a breaking news 40 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: kind of week. Many of you have followed on Twitter 41 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: and Instagram continue to do so. At Late Kick Josh, 42 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: because that's only going to ramp up more and more 43 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: as we get into the season, and they're going to 44 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: be things that you get on those that you don't 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: get on the air or even on the Late Kick podcast. 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: College football is so uncertain right now. Here's what's happening. 47 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: So there's some movement going on in our studio and 48 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: things that have been hidden and tucked away for a 49 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: long time have been brought out. And yesterday I was 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: in the office I feel like twenty five hours. I 51 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 1: could not leave because there was so much happening, and 52 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: I had to record a podcast and I was on 53 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:32,920 Speaker 1: nine radio hits yesterday. And I don't want you to 54 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: feel sorry for me. Maybe just a little bit I do. 55 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: But anyway, I pulled out the MREs you know, the 56 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: emergency meal kit stuff and the water that has a 57 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: fifty year shelf life. I'm not kidding when I told 58 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: you I ate MRIs at my desk and drink the 59 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: emergency water yesterday. So let's fan ourselves and let's get ready, 60 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: because what we were doing yesterday and what we were 61 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: watching today, we're going to talk about right now. The 62 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: invitation has been extended Texas and Oklahoma officially invited to 63 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: the SEC. So right off the bat, let's read the 64 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: release from the SEC today today's unanimous vote. This is 65 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: from Greg sank you, by the way, Today's unanimous vote 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: both a testament to the SEC's long standing spirit of 67 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: unity and mutual cooperation, as well as a recognition of 68 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: the outstanding legacies of academics and athletic excellence and that 69 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: order of people established by Oklahoma and Texas. I greatly 70 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: appreciate the collective efforts of our presidents and chancellors in 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: considering and acting upon each school's membership interest. So where 72 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: are we right now? Well, five point thirty three pm 73 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: Central Standard time today, that became official and we have 74 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: a unanimous vote. Who saw that coming? Fourteen to oh. 75 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I got some pushback, believe it or not. In the 76 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 1: comment section, got some pushback. People said, there's no way 77 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: A and M's going to vote for this, and Missouri 78 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: would be stupid to do it too. Dayton, you got 79 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: to follow SEC football a little bit closer than that. 80 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: You thought this wasn't going to be unanimous. So that 81 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: was a formality. That's not even the real news of 82 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: the day. If you want me to be honest with you, 83 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: because we knew that was coming. What we didn't know 84 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: was coming. What you probably didn't know you were going 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: to wake up to seeing a headline of on your 86 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: iPhone or in my case I Josh this morning, is 87 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the fact that the Big Twelve Conference has decided to 88 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: file a season desist against one of their own TV 89 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: partners in ESPN. And having said all that, just to intro, 90 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to remember a crazier story in college football, 91 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: and we've had a lot of them, had a lot 92 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: of crazy stories. But can you remember we got a 93 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: lot of teenagers, we got a lot of high school 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: kids who watched the show, we got a lot of 95 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: senior citizens who watched the show. Can you remember a 96 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: crazier story and a more consequential story for more parties involved? 97 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: Since the integration of college football? I think, and that's 98 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: on a totally different plane. I'm thinking to myself, what 99 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: was there? Scholarship changes even that doesn't approach this. So 100 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: there are many things I want to say about this. 101 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: Let me go at it from the Big Twelve's point 102 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: of view, and then we've got plenty to say about 103 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: what this means for Texas, Oklahoma. The SEC and several 104 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: other parties involved. I feel really bad for Bob Bowlesby, 105 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: the Big Twelve Commissioner right now. It is a tough 106 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: situation to be in when you have some things working 107 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: against you in general, but it's an infinitely tougher situation 108 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: to be in when you have some friendlies turning on you. 109 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: And it's the worst situation to be in when the 110 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: knives are already in your back before you realize you 111 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: even got stabbed. And that's got to be how Bob 112 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: Bowlesby feels right now. And if you've listened to the 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: language that's come out of the Big Twelve and him 114 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: in particular, over the last twenty four hours, they are 115 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: well past the point of handling this with decorum and 116 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: taking it all in stride. Now the knives are out 117 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: now on their end, and this is obviously going to 118 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: end up in a courtroom. And since I have not 119 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: completed my legal degree at de Vry yet, I cannot 120 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: really comment all that much on those matters. But think 121 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: about being Bob Bowlesby for a second. I'm going to 122 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: tell you why I feel so bad for him. Imagine 123 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: going through something like this person and then blow it 124 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: up on a grand scale where the whole world watches it. 125 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: This time last year, you remember what was happening with 126 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. What was happening with the Big Twelve 127 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: this time last year was Bob Bowlsby was working arm 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: in arm with Greg Sanki as well as the ACC 129 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: to try and keep the football season afloat after the 130 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: Big Ten and the Pac twelve had thrown up the 131 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: deuces and said we're done. Now. We all know how 132 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: that turned out, but it only turned out that way 133 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: because of cooperation and mutual trust. They walked lockstep, hand 134 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: in hand, arm in arm when it was time to 135 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: have a united front. When it came to COVID then 136 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: just a few months ago and something that had been 137 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 1: going on for a while expanding the playoff, I w 138 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: wasn't for it, but they are, and so again united front. 139 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: Bob Bowlesby working hand in hand with Greg Sanki and 140 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: ESPN for that matter, behind the scenes to try and 141 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: work out a model that is favorable enough where everyone 142 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: will sign off on it. And then come to find out, 143 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: the very conference, the very man leading the very conference 144 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: that you're working arm in arm with, is grabbing aces 145 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: out of your back pocket. One of them's got a 146 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: long horn on it, one of them's got a boomer 147 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: Sooner on it. And now what do you have, Well, 148 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: you've got an empty conference out there. They cannot stand 149 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: on its own. And what the future for the Big 150 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: twelve holes remains to be seen. But also on the 151 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: other side of the fence, that TV partner that you 152 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: thought you had was secretly trying to take a blowtorch 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: to the rest of your conference. If you're unclear as 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: to what I'm talking about right now, there are allegations, 155 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: direct allegations from the Big Twelve that ESPN was doing 156 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: no less than trying to sabotage the future of the 157 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: conference by convincing at least one more member institution to 158 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: back out of the Big Twelve, thus dissolving the Big Twelve, 159 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: because it would put it below its minimum number of 160 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: teams required for that TV contract to be valid. And 161 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: at that point, the Big Twelve would just dissolve Texas 162 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: and OU would be free. They don't have to pay 163 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: all their exit fee money, and then the SEC could 164 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: have and the ESPN could have in turn what it wants, 165 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: which is just that one mega conference in the SEC 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: that if your nine year old daughter were to have 167 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: suggested it to you a month ago, would lead you 168 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: to put her in time out because she was just 169 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: making fantastical claims that are far beyond the scope of reality. 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: None of that could ever happen. That would not pass 171 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: for the script of a Netflix series. It's just too unbelievable. 172 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: And yet it's really happening in real time. That's happening. 173 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: So ESPN has responded to that, and they have said essentially, no, 174 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: we didn't in a few more words, and Bob Bolsby 175 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: has responded and said to several people. He did his 176 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: own little impromptu media tour last night. He said to everyone, 177 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: I've got the evidence. You're not going to see it, 178 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: but I've got the evidence, and when the time comes, 179 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: you will see it. I look forward to it. Probably 180 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: should sell tickets to that, but I look forward to that. 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: But when is this whole thing going to happen, this 182 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: whole Texas Oklahoma to SEC When is that going to happen? 183 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: I put up a poll earlier today, which as we know, 184 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: is as scientific as it gets on Twitter, and about 185 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: seventy percent of you believe Texas and Oklahoma will be 186 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: playing in the SEC this time next year, twenty twenty two. 187 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: That's what seventy percent of you think. I agree with you. 188 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: I think they'll be in the conference next year. I 189 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna take that long at all. That 190 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: united front in the Big Twelve cannot last. They are 191 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: singing from the same hymnal right now, but the eyes 192 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: are cutting to the left and right. My philosophy, if 193 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: I were the SEC, or I were ESPN, or I 194 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: were anyone else out there waiting to see what happens 195 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 1: to the Big twelve, just take the Fleetwood Mac approach. 196 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: You don't have to do anything. Just sit back, give 197 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: it enough time. They'll turn on each other, they'll break 198 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: themselves up. You don't have to do anything. You don't 199 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: have to try and sabotage them. You'll have to sweet 200 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: talk in some member institutions. Ear just give it time. 201 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: Lead singer, lead guitars will break up. The bass player 202 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: and the piano player get divorced, and then the drummer 203 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 1: will start doing things he shouldn't do with the lead singer. 204 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 1: And in the end, as we saw last year on 205 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: a personal scale, because half of you still have closets 206 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: full of toilet paper and garage is full of gasoline. 207 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: Panic wins out over logic. It will here too. This 208 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: conference will dissolve itself. So if it doesn't, more drastic 209 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: action may have to be taken. Just take the Fleetwood 210 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: Mac approach. It'll dissolve itself whatever the case. Even if 211 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't. I think the money's going to be there, 212 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: and I don't think that this is going to have 213 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: nearly the muscle that some in the Big Twelve think 214 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: it will have in court. Texas Oklahoma I think will 215 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: be in the SEC next year, But that's next year. 216 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: It's like when I used to watch pro wrestling, they 217 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: would tease a head to the pay per view that's 218 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: this Sunday, but tonight, Well what about this year? So 219 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: obviously Texas and Oklahoma aren't playing in the SEC this year. However, 220 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: you want spectacle, you want something to look forward to, 221 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: and I plan on being at this game. Let me 222 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: paint a picture for you. The date is Saturday, October ninth. 223 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: It's high noon on the East coast. It's eleven am 224 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 1: in Dallas, Texas. The Cotton Bowl is where it's at. 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: It's Horns versus Sooners. It is the Red River shootout. 226 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Big twelve title implications are on the line, and yet, 227 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,839 Speaker 1: mark my words, at some point during that live national broadcast, 228 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 1: a chant of SEC will reverberate throughout the Cotton Bowl 229 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: in a Big twelve game, and it will be the 230 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: most consequential SEC chant that the sport has ever seen. 231 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Just keep that in the back of your mind, because 232 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: that will happen. An SEC chant during Red River. I 233 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: think it will happen this year, and you will have 234 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 1: two fan bases who would not help the other up 235 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: if they were lying half dead in the ditch, joining 236 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: together in unison to sing that song, a song they 237 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: used to hate. One more thing I want to touch 238 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: on before we move on here, because I've got some 239 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: playoff things to discuss that have brought at least a 240 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 1: temporary smile to my face. What do you think about 241 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 1: Greg Sanki right now? The SEC Commissioner. It's a question 242 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: I've gotten. If I've gotten it once, I've gotten it. 243 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: It seems like a thousand times over the last week 244 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: or so. And there are a lot of you out 245 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: there who I am close friends with, a lot of 246 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: you out there I agree about ninety percent of the 247 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: time with who are painting Greg sank as the cousin 248 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: of Satan right now. And here's what I want to 249 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: tell you. I know there's a lot of mixed feelings 250 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: out there about Greg sank I know a lot of 251 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: you are looking at what he's doing and from your 252 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: vantage point, you think he's just taken a wrecking ball 253 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: to college football. I just advise you to be careful 254 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: making full judgment on something that you can only fractionally see, 255 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: because there are many details, and I mean many details 256 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: in this equation that ninety percent of the iceberg being 257 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: below the surface of the ocean sort of deal. There's 258 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: a lot going on here that, for all you know, 259 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: down the road when these details make themselves clear, would 260 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: have you making the same decisions if you were in 261 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: Greg Sankie's shoes. Now. You can talk ill about him 262 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: all you want to, and that's fine, that's your prerogative. 263 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, if half of the negative things 264 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 1: that are being said about Greg Snanky out there are true, 265 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: it flies in the face of the perception that folks 266 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: who have been around him along time have of him, 267 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: and I mean a widely held perception. And so either 268 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: he was fooling you the whole time building up all 269 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: that equity and goodwill of character, or you can't see 270 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: the whole picture right now and you don't have the 271 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: full context. I'm going to leave it to you to 272 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: guess because this is an ongoing story. You see the 273 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: chapters that are the second, third, fourth, fifth, and sixth 274 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: last towards the end of the book. Those haven't been 275 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 1: written yet, so we don't have all the details yet. 276 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: But I think one day many documentaries will come from this, 277 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: and it may be that on the backside you're looking 278 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: at you're saying, you know, Greg Sanki, Man, I thought 279 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: that guy was evil at the time, but it turns 280 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: out I've probably done the same thing he did if 281 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: I were him. So it's I'm just telling you. When 282 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: you're leading elite organizations, when you are the head of 283 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: the highest organization, sometimes you have what we call in 284 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: football the consequences of success. Like Nick Saban deals with 285 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: things that are unique to Alabama because they're the top dog. 286 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: If you're Greg Sanki, there are some tough decisions that 287 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: fall in your life because you're at the top of 288 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: the totem pole that you may never experience. If you're 289 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: leading the PAC twelve. And it may be that there 290 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: is a no win situation because no matter what you choose, 291 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: you're going to anger some people. And because you have 292 00:14:14,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: to be professional about it. You can't just run to 293 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: the nearest live microphone and defend yourself and say you 294 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: got to let some of these negative stereotypes about you persist. 295 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't care how much money you make per year. 296 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: If you're a human, that can eat at you. So 297 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: I'm telling you I don't like where this is headed. 298 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: Make no mistake, this is not some endorsement from me 299 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: on the Amazon ing of college football down South, and 300 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm a Southerner and I don't like it. But I 301 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: can also look at Greg Sanki and say he may 302 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: have made a decision I don't like. But it also 303 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: could be the case that realistically he had no other 304 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: choice than to do it. I mean, what would you 305 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: do if you looked and you said, this is here 306 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: to be done, and if I don't do it, it is 307 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: a certainty someone else is going to do it. And 308 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: your job is to act in the best interest of 309 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the conference. By the way, what would you do? So 310 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I'll leave that there and we'll move on how about this. So, 311 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: director Colin, we were feverishly talking about something about two 312 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: months ago, and it's died down. So here's the endpoint, Colin. 313 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: You remember about two months ago, if you were watching 314 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: this show where you were living anywhere outside of a cave, 315 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: all the talk around college football was about the college 316 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,200 Speaker 1: Football Playoff and how expansion was not a possibility or 317 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: even a probability. But all of a sudden, even I 318 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: had to admit, this thing looks like an inevitability. Now, 319 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: many including myself, saw the riding on the wall, and 320 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: I am far from an expansionist, but I realized I 321 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: got to pick my battles, and this one's lost and 322 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to have to live with it. And so 323 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: I had just buried my feelings. We stopped doing segments 324 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: on it on Lake Kick. I just buried my feelings. 325 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: But sometimes burial does not mean the end. I mean 326 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: back in nineteen ninety six, for example, here's an awful 327 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: wall metaphor. Back in nineteen nine, WWF had a buried 328 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: Alive pay per view. The way to win a buried 329 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: a live match pretty self explanatory. You have to bury 330 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: your opponent alive, and so there it is it's mankind 331 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: versus the undertaker, And there's the undertaker under six feet 332 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: of dirt. Even though when the wrestlers stood up their 333 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: head was higher than a grave, may not have been 334 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: full six feet anyway. So there's the undertakert dirt dirt, 335 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: bell rings match over. Then a lightning bolt hits the 336 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: grave and there comes the hand up from below. And 337 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: that's exactly what I feel like right now, because I 338 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: thought that my hopes and dreams from derailing this thing 339 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: were just that buried and gone, to quote Nick Saban, gone. 340 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: And then here comes the hand out of the grave, 341 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: and the hand has clutched the college football playoff around 342 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 1: the neck, and it's saying, not quite yet. So what 343 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: do we have Right now? Everyone's thinking about expansion, and 344 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: everyone's talking about how many teams are going to get 345 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: in this playoff? What playoff? No one signed off on 346 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: anything yet, No one's earmarked or check marked this thing. 347 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: It's not good go. The green light has not been 348 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: hit on this. Remember we left off with a proposal 349 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: and then that committee was going to meet to further 350 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: discuss it. Well, quick question for you, let's just take 351 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: a quiz here. So question what does it take for 352 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: multiple parties to work together to achieve a common goal? Answer? 353 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: It takes trust, it takes continuity, and it takes cooperation 354 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: and friends. Those things have gone out the door the 355 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: moment the SEC took a crowbar to the shins of 356 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: the Big twelve. That went out the door. And so 357 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: where does that leave your precious playoff not my playoff hashtag, 358 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: not my playoff, your playoff the expanded version at least? 359 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: Where does that leave us? Short term, midterm and long term? 360 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: You probably have three different answers here. Short term, here's 361 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: something interesting. Actually, Noah, who is running things down in 362 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: Fort Lauderdale right now, still getting married October ninth, but 363 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: running things down in Fort Lauderdale very effectively, he calls 364 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: me what was it? Colin probably about twelve minutes four airtime, 365 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: He says, Hey, have you seen this Dennis dot article 366 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 1: on cbssports dot com? And I said, no, I'm powdering 367 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: my forehead. Noah, what does it say? And he said, 368 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm going to send you a link. You may want 369 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: to use it in the show. So normally we're well 370 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: well past cutoff time by six forty eight. But I 371 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: take a look at it and This is too good 372 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: to ignore. This is juicy. So Dennis Dodd over on 373 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: cbssports dot com after the announcement's official about Texas Know 374 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: You Today, he goes and grabs a bunch of Power 375 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: five ads. I think he got some anonymous commissioners clock 376 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: I still cannot pronounce the PAC twelve commissioner's name. The 377 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: PAC twelve commissioner's name just went on the record with it. 378 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: But listen to these quotes. These are three different people 379 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 1: who are clearly going to have a spot and a 380 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: seat at the table in deciding the format for the playoff. 381 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: Quote number one, this is from a highly placed Power 382 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: five source. With twelve teams, we could just be watching 383 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of SEC teams in the twelve team playoff. 384 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: Another Power five ad on God's Green Earth with the 385 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: PAC twelve and Big ten hand over these playoff rights, 386 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: which only strengthens the SEC. A second Power five ad agrees, 387 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: I don't care if there are ten SEC teams in, 388 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: but we can't be making this thing of bonanza every 389 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: year for them. You can't strangle everybody else financially. I 390 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: want to remind you they need consensus on this to 391 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: sign off on it. If you're listening on podcasts. What 392 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm waving around near the microphone may be many things, 393 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 1: but consensus not one of them. So how's this going 394 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: to play out? How sounds like I'm teasing a soap opera. 395 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: How are the expansionists going to get former expansionists but 396 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: now agnostics back into the Church of expansion Well, I 397 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: think the way they're going to do it is going 398 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: to be very strategic. But it's already been thought out. 399 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: This is my feeling on where the SEC is going 400 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: to take this thing. Short term, no way it's happening. 401 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: So at the very least, we have put the cabash 402 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: on expanding this playoff in the short term. So now 403 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: you're looking down the road, and it makes a lot 404 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: more sense, to be honest with you, Now, why Greg Sankee, 405 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: Commissioner the SEC, all the while was telling you pump 406 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: the brakes people lowercase the E on expansionists. I think 407 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be closer to twenty twenty five, twenty 408 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: twenty six. Well, now it makes sense because he knew 409 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: what was coming, He knew the next chapter, and we 410 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: hadn't read it yet. So short term it's out the window. 411 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: Praise b midterm what happens here, Well, midterm, I think 412 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: they're waiting the Big twelve out and then they'll kind 413 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: of see how the landscape shifts, hurt feelings get mended, 414 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: maybe everyone gets back on board, and what they would 415 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: say would be cooler heads will prevail panic over patients, 416 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: and we'll see where that takes us. But in the 417 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: long term, I think the SEC made a very calculated 418 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: statement the other day, and Greg Sinki was technically the 419 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: person who made it, but a bunch of lawyers in Birmingham, Alabama, 420 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: more realistically are who put that statement out. And the 421 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: statement said, essentially, we would have been dumb not to 422 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: take Oklahoma and Texas. But to be clear, we want 423 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: the world to know this opportunity kind of fell in 424 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: our lap. We weren't out there in the high grass 425 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: where you can only see our eyeballs, and we're just 426 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: on the prow to poach any and every team we can. 427 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: Having said that, the future remains to be seen and 428 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: if opportunities present themselves to us, will take a look 429 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: at them. Here's what I think that meant. What I 430 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: think that meant is if you people do not get 431 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: on board and stay on board, once we make these 432 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: moves with the expanded playoff that we already agreed upon, 433 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: then we are going to exercise all right to either 434 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: come in your hen house and take whatever we want 435 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: to i e. Take your teams, or we're going to 436 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: get to the point where we just take our ball 437 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: and we go play somewhere else and we form that 438 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: fabled super League, not super Conference super League that a 439 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: lot of you have talked about. That super League is 440 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: its own planet. See right now, the SEC wants the 441 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: planet to be they're the big continent, but you can 442 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: still have other continents out there. Just understand, you're going 443 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: to play by our rules. This is going to be 444 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: a leveraging tool down the road if you don't have 445 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 1: the necessary parties on board. The SEC, I think would 446 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: be wise to stay at sixteen teams now so that 447 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: they can look at you in the future and say 448 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,959 Speaker 1: you want us to say at sixteen, don't you you 449 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: know we could have whatever we want from you whenever 450 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: we want it, right sign the paper, or we're coming 451 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: and taking a B, C and D. And there's nothing 452 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 1: you can do about it, because look at these text messages. 453 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: They've already been begging us that's like dating a girl 454 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,880 Speaker 1: and unbeknownst to you, she's tried to get with your 455 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: best friend, but your best friend and your best interest 456 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: has said no, and then all of a sudden you 457 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: find out about it. Well, what is your recourse? You 458 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: don't really have any You don't have a choice, is 459 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: my point. And so I think in the long term, 460 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: unfortunately for those like me, we will still be dealing 461 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:51,639 Speaker 1: with this, But I think the choice is going to 462 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 1: ultimately be on the plate of let's say, the Big Twelve. 463 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: If you've ever seen the movie The Founder, I think 464 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: it's still on Netflix. It's about the evolution of McDonald's. Fascinating. 465 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: You will love and hate Ray Kroc altogether, just simultaneous. 466 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: But in the end, even though you had contracts, even 467 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: though you had an agreement, in the end, Ray Kroc 468 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: was taking over McDonald's, and the guys out in San Bernardino, 469 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: we're going to lose. The only question was were they 470 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: going to be left dead and broke sitting on the 471 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: sidewalk or were they going to take a check from him? 472 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: And I think in the end, a lot of folks 473 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: in the college football world are going to agree to 474 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: take the old proverbial check understanding. We're beat. There's no 475 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: way we can compete with that. We're beat. Now again, 476 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: do not take me predicting this as an endorsement that 477 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: I like what I'm saying. I just think that's where 478 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: we're headed. But I also want to say this. We're 479 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: going to probably spend several weeks talking about what I'm 480 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: about to kind of hint at. There is a lot 481 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: of fear out there that this is reshaping college football 482 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: as we know it. Well, that's not a fear, that's 483 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: just reality. This will reshape college football as you know it. 484 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 1: It does not have to ruin college football for you. 485 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,040 Speaker 1: And I would really like to kind of table this 486 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: bookmark this thought. You define what you love about the sport, right, 487 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: what you're passionate about, what you love about a Saturday, 488 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: What appeals to you may not appeal to me, and 489 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: vice versa. But you define what you love about it. 490 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: And what I'm asking you is if those things, if 491 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: those elements are still in the room, what does it 492 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: really matter what else is going on on the outside? 493 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,239 Speaker 1: Nil transfer portal like, as long as that product is there, 494 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 1: as long as you're watching Kentucky versus Louisville like you 495 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: have for the past fifty years on a Saturday late 496 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: in November, and those logos look the same, and that's 497 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: fields painted the same, and you're with like minded people 498 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: in a stadium environment, you're watching with your buddies at 499 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: home on TV. A lot of that stuff is still 500 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: going to be there. The landscape. I mean, it may 501 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: look different, but the sport, the game, not the sport 502 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: the game, it's going to be there. So I don't 503 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 1: think it has to be quite as doom and gloom 504 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: as many amongst us have made it out to be. 505 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, you know, there is something that I 506 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: think we should do right now, and let's talk about 507 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: actual football in twenty twenty one. You know what if 508 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: dare we? Yes, I think we do. The other week 509 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: we did the biggest games of the year, and we've 510 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 1: done circle games for the first four weeks, and then 511 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: last show we circled week six and said, that's the 512 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: biggest one of the season in college football. That's October ninth. 513 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: So tonight, here you go, Colin three two one. Tonight, 514 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do is go week seven through 515 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: ten in college football and give you the circle games. 516 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, this is not a comprehensive list. There 517 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: are some very big games that won't be on this list. 518 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: This is just a sample size of what to look 519 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: forward to in sort of that second third portion of 520 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 1: the season. Let's start with Florida at LSU. You remember 521 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: this last year? You remember the shoe. I didn't even 522 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: think of it until the very end of formatting this segment, 523 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: so I just wrote asterisks shoe, remember to say, So 524 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: there's the shoe. More important matters at hand, though, the 525 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,400 Speaker 1: Florida Gators are going to play Alabama early in the year. 526 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: They will not be favored to win that game. If 527 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: I had to pick the game today, I wouldn't pick 528 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: Florida to win it. Crazier things have happened, I know. 529 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: But LSU is going to be favored to be six 530 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: and zero in this game, and so I really wonder 531 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: where the teams will be. You could say that about 532 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: every game by the time we get to week seven 533 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 1: and later, like what are the records going to be? 534 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: But also there's a wide, wide range of scenarios here. 535 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: This is a big game in and of itself. It 536 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: does not need storyline help, but it has it. This 537 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: year anyway, this is one of the great environments in 538 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: SEC football, and for that matter, college football. You've got 539 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: the entire backdrop of what happened last year and how 540 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: inexplicable that result seemed. That was also the game that 541 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: sparked a lot of confidence and belief in Max Johnson, 542 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 1: who may very well go on to win the LSU 543 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: quarterback job this year and may be the guy that's 544 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: responsible for them being six and oh when they roll 545 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: into this game, and they'll be favored in this one too, 546 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: this is when you start to really find out whether 547 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: LSU has that playoff potential, whether it's going to be 548 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: a year that's true special and all the internal dynamics 549 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: are fixed and that talent's living up to its capability. 550 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: That's on the LSU side, But on the Florida side, 551 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: if they've already got a conference loss under their belt, 552 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: this could very well be do or die for their 553 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: SEC Eastern Division hopes, because if they can win this 554 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: one and they have no more than one loss on 555 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: the resume, well, that Georgia game in Jacksonville could still 556 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: decide the East. But if they've already got a loss 557 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: and they lose this one, Georgia could have a game 558 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: and a half cushion for all intents and purposes when 559 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: they go into Jacksonville. So this one's really big. How 560 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: about Miami at North Carolina, same exact day. This I 561 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: think is my favorite game in the ACC this year. 562 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: Miami at North Carolina. This will be Miami season on 563 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: this Saturday. It's week seven. But I feel the exact 564 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: same for North Carolina. Remember the whole schedule dynamic thing here, 565 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: because it's pretty heavily tilted in Miami's favor. North Carolina 566 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: will be playing their seventh game in seven weeks. Not 567 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 1: only will Miami be coming off a buye, but the 568 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: previous game they plays on a third So they're coming 569 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: into this thing on nine days rest Manny Diaz could 570 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: not have drawn the conference schedule better for himself if 571 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 1: they gave him the schedule to do it himself. I 572 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: remember this time last year, we were sort of going 573 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 1: up and down Miami's schedule, and you said, what's the 574 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: game they need in order to prove their back, because 575 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: that's a question every year from Miami. And people started 576 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: once they started three and oh, they started looking at 577 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 1: that Clemson game and they weren't close. They got physically 578 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 1: manhandled by Clemson. I will never forget Miami's receivers couldn't 579 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: get off the line of scrimmage against Clemson, and that 580 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a particularly historic defense for Brenton Venables last year. Well, 581 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: they don't have Clemson in the regular season this year. 582 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: This is that game, though. This is their chance to 583 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: go on the road and have one circled and tee 584 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: it up and put forth their best effort. And if 585 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: they win this game, Miami's in the driver's seat for 586 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: that division. Miami has all of a sudden the driver's 587 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: seats potentially go play for a conference title at the 588 00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: end of the year. Week eight. The next week, let's 589 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: take it up to the Big ten. Ohio State is 590 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: at Indiana in Week eight. Now, you think about this 591 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: game and you think Ohio State decided favorite. There's no 592 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: way I'm picking Indiana to win that game. It would 593 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: take what a plus three or plus four turnover kind 594 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: of afternoon. Well, Indiana has been prone to do it 595 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: before first off. But secondly, the biggest question or questions 596 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: with Ohio State, clearly defensively this year, are going to 597 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: be on the back end and That doesn't mean that 598 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: they can't get emphatically answered, but that's where the questions 599 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: will be. And anybody who watched Ohio State football last 600 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: year understands why. Well. I say that because if you 601 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: look at the Buckeye schedule, which you're seeing if you're 602 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: watching on YouTube, it could get tested in Week one 603 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: against Minnesota. Sure, Anthony Brown and Oregon's receivers, that looks 604 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: to be the best stable of receiving talent that Mario 605 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: Christaball's had at Orgon or that Oregan's had period in 606 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: several years. But then you start to look down that schedule, 607 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: Tulsa Akron at Rutgers Maryland, it could be that this 608 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: game at Indiana is the stiffest regular season test that 609 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: the back end of the Ohio State defense faces. Now, 610 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: they got a bye week before they play it, but 611 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: two things could happen here. You could either just have 612 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: Indiana pull the outright upset. Now that's a huge story 613 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: on its own merit. But even if Ohio State goes 614 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: in to win this game, the style in which they 615 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: win it and the stile in which their defense plays, 616 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: this is the kind of game that you pull out 617 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: again when they're headed to the playoffs a month and 618 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: a half later, and you say they're facing fill in 619 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: the blank, good passing attack. Let's go check out how 620 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: they did. Who exposed some potential red flags with Ohio 621 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: State this year? How about that Indiana game. Pennix was back, 622 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: they had all their receivers back. Let's see how they did. 623 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: So Ohio State forty nine to fourteen give me a 624 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: ton of confidence about their chances in the playoff against anyone. 625 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Ohio State forty nine to thirty seven may tell a 626 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: little bit different story. Let's move on. Georgia versus Florida. 627 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: This is the next week. This is week nine. This 628 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: is obviously as it is every year in Jacksonville. Here's 629 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: what is beautiful about sports in general. But here's what's 630 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: especially beautiful about this rivalry. There is immense trash talk 631 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: every year, but it eventually gets put to the test 632 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: because they're eventually gonna play. And so you've got a 633 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: lot of things being said about Georgia and Florida. Happens 634 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: every year, but right now you got Georgia folks firmly 635 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: convinced last year was a blip on the radar screen. 636 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: It was Florida peaking as Georgia dipped a little bit. 637 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: That will not that will not replicate itself this year, 638 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: certainly when you're set at quarterback and JT. Daniels and likewise, 639 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: they've lost Kyle Trask and they're gonna try Emery Jones 640 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: out against us, and we don't believe he's capable of 641 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: beating us. Why because we're Georgia. Meanwhile, in the Gator 642 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: side of things, you're thinking if we can even be 643 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: comparable talent wise. We know Dan allout coach Kirby on Saturday. 644 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: All of these things are very heartfelt, but it's got 645 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: to be put to the test. I don't care about talking. 646 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 1: I love talking as long as the game's gonna happen. 647 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: The talking I don't like is what would happen if 648 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: so and so played so and so well? If I 649 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: don't get to see it, it's a moot point or 650 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: a mute point. But this game's gonna happen. I don't 651 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: even have the date. I know it's week nine and 652 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: that I very much look forward to. Look at Florida's schedule. 653 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: We just touched on this, but talk about it one 654 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: more time. They got Bama in week three. They will 655 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: be favored in every other game until they go to LSU, 656 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: and that LSU game, I think will have a ton 657 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: of kind of pre Georgia hype around it, because that 658 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: game could very well determine what this one means, not 659 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: to the fan bases, not for the rivalry, but within 660 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: the context of the SEC Eastern Division race. Then over 661 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: in the SEC West one week later, in Week ten, 662 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: we've got LSU at Alabama. Been my favorite game in 663 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 1: college football for over a decade now. It's a pretty 664 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: unique game. I think it lost a little of its 665 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: luster for a second, and then it came back emphatically 666 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, and then last year was ooh, it 667 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: was biblical last year. But you're supposed to forget about 668 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: last year. This LSU team this year is supposed to 669 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 1: have the juice to make me forget about last year. 670 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: They could very well roll into this game undefeated. LSU 671 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: will be favored to roll into this game undefeated. Having 672 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: said that, think about what could be in the balance 673 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: here and think about how it could go differently than 674 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: maybe the preview magazine culture would lead you to believe. 675 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: Because it is a widely held notion out there that 676 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: by the time LSU plays Bama in Week ten, that 677 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: their backs are against the wall, they've got one or 678 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: multiple losses, they're in wounded animal mode, and Bama's just 679 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: cruising along undefeated. Might I remind you that Alabama's got 680 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: a break in about one hundred new pieces offensively too, 681 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,440 Speaker 1: and they will have already gone to Florida and to Texas, 682 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,520 Speaker 1: A and M in very losable games before this point. 683 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: What if Alabama's lost the game, like it's not totally 684 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: out of the realm a possibility, guys, that has happened before. 685 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: And what if ls used the one that comes in 686 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: there and it's like twenty nineteen all over again. Now 687 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: this is a stretch. This is a stretch, but you 688 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: got to follow me, because if we've learned anything over 689 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: the past month, it's don't laugh at any prediction in 690 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: college football. The crazier it is possible, the more likely 691 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: it becomes. So LSU, I just let's revisit this. It's 692 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: not like I would odds on favor this scenario, but 693 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: it could be that LSU has got a little more 694 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: shine on them at that point in Alabama, maybe you 695 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: got a little doubt about them. This is a team 696 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: that lost back to back years to Ole Miss in 697 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen and ended up paying for 698 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: a title in both years. My point is crazier things 699 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: have happened before and then last in Week ten, same 700 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,240 Speaker 1: week out on the West coast, it's such an important 701 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: game for the PAC twelve Oregon at Washington. This stretch 702 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: starting in week six and then on through week ten 703 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: is very big for this conference. Week six is where 704 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: Utah goes to USC. Now that could very well decide 705 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: to pack twelve South, and then this one in week 706 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,800 Speaker 1: ten could decide to pack twelve North. And the funny 707 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: thing is no one is circling this game. On the 708 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: West coast, they are, but nationally not many people are 709 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: circling this game. But this is such an important game 710 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 1: for both teams. Now, for Jimmy Lake and Washington, this 711 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: is a chance for validation on the national stage, because, 712 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I don't know that a 713 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 1: win at Michigan in week two would accomplish that nearly 714 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,760 Speaker 1: as much as this win would. And secondly, for Oregon, 715 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: it's a chance. If you're undefeated at this point, that 716 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 1: means you've beatn Ohio State so you already got your validation. 717 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,400 Speaker 1: But if you've lost to Ohio State, that's not a 718 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: conference game. This is your chance to re establish yourself 719 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 1: on the national scene. You've gotten your feet under you 720 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: after an early season loss which no one frowns at. 721 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: It's at the shoe, it's against Ohio State, and maybe 722 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 1: you emphatically win this game. Either way. Very important for 723 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: these two games to carry a lot of national significance 724 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,959 Speaker 1: for the PAC twelve. So those are some circle games 725 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 1: week seven through ten. And believe it or not, we're 726 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: still not done because we still got the last month 727 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: of the season that we've got to talk about. So 728 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: we'll do that on the next show. Tentatively scheduled to 729 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: do that on the next show. I wanted to talk 730 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: about something tonight that got a ton of attention the 731 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: other day. Colin. How many we had like forty or 732 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,399 Speaker 1: fifty thousand views on our Texas A and M video 733 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: the other day, which usually means there's a fair amount 734 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: of interest on it. I start with a question that 735 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: everyone has an opinion on, even if you're not an 736 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: A and M fan, What do you think Jimbo Fisher's 737 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 1: legacy is If I asked you to define the legacy 738 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: of Jimbo Fisher, what would it be? And I imagine 739 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: if I were to get serious responses, people would say, well, 740 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: he's a college football lifer. Obviously, he's been around forever, 741 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: and he's won a national championship. So he's one of 742 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 1: those very few national championship winning coaches. And yes, he 743 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: is that. But I wonder if his legacy has been defined. 744 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: So if we fast forward thirty years and Jimbo Fisher's 745 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: long since retired, I think if we look back on 746 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one and then we have the entire context 747 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 1: of his career in scope at that point, will we 748 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 1: look back and say, you know, his legacy had already 749 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: been defined before twenty twenty one. Because I've got to 750 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: be real with you, I don't think Jimbo Fisher's legacy 751 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: has been defined yet, even with the college football lifer 752 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,400 Speaker 1: label on him, and even with a national championship already. 753 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: As crazy as that sounds, I don't think his legacy 754 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: has been defined yet. What are people saying right now? 755 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,959 Speaker 1: People are saying, well, this whole conference realignment thing, Boy, 756 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: that's a huge move for Texas. Boy, that's a huge 757 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: move for Oklahoma. Oh, it's a landmark win for the SEC. 758 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: This is an inflection point for Texas A and M football. 759 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,280 Speaker 1: This is a defining moment for the legacy of Jimbo Fisher. 760 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:20,719 Speaker 1: You can think about the risk. I want to think 761 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: about the opportunity out there for Texas A and M 762 00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: and to understand why it's such a big opportunity, and 763 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: to understand why this is such a huge inflection point 764 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: and a defining moment for not only A and in football, 765 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,240 Speaker 1: for Jimbo Fisher too. You got to understand the reality 766 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: versus the illusion. The illusion we talked about the other night. 767 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 1: The illusion is, well, A and M's in trouble now 768 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: because Texas is going to be in the conference. And 769 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,359 Speaker 1: I have had several off the record debates this week 770 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: with people about what that means because I don't buy it. 771 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: I just wholesale, I wholesale dispute that. But you got 772 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there. So I got a 773 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: lot of people who come at me and they say, well, 774 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 1: Texas A and M, they're in trouble now that Texas 775 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: this is in the conference. And so I want to 776 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: push it through to a logical conclusion. You can tell 777 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: me all you want to, A and M's in trouble 778 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: now that Texas is in the conference, but give me 779 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 1: the specifics why are they in trouble? And so inevitably 780 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: someone says, well, now cause Texas is going to be 781 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: able to recruit the SEC, and I say and, And 782 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: then they'll say, well, you know, kids are going to 783 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: choose Texas now because they're in the SEC, And I 784 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: ask why is that? And then they say, well, they 785 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: always wanted to be at Texas, it's just that now 786 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: Texas is giving them the final reason with that SEC 787 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 1: sticker on their helmet. And I don't believe that. I'm 788 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,880 Speaker 1: not telling you Texas recruiting won't improve. That's not going 789 00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: to be the deciding edge that Horns have over Aggie's 790 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,719 Speaker 1: at all. And the reason I think it's overblown is 791 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: because I don't think it's been the lack of SEC 792 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: inclusion that's cost Texas, and it certainly hasn't been access 793 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: to the state. They're right there in the middle of it. 794 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: If that were true, then you wouldn't be able to 795 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: explain in Ohio State. Ohio State is a program that 796 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: is neither in Texas nor in the SEC. And they 797 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: have rated the lone star state in recruiting for several 798 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 1: years now. That's not what's been holding Texas back, Nor 799 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: is sec inclusion all of a sudden going to be 800 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 1: the determining factor that places that Longhorn logo again above 801 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: that A and M logo. If it happens, as I 802 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: said the other night, it's going to be because Jimbo 803 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,760 Speaker 1: Fisher was not able to follow through and or Steve 804 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: Starkeisan just took this program to the next level. But 805 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,800 Speaker 1: what do kids want? Kids want to compete at the 806 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: highest level. Obviously, they want top notch development, and they 807 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,359 Speaker 1: want access to the NFL. They want to play at 808 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 1: an NFL pipeline. Which of these is Texas A and 809 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: M all of a sudden not going to be able 810 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: to offer because Texas has a different conference sticker on 811 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,960 Speaker 1: the back of their helmet. The answer to me is 812 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: none of them. I think Jimbo Fisher in Texas, A 813 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: and M could be on the brink of harnessing this 814 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: latest news to take their own pro to the next level. 815 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: Everyone gets motivated in different ways different things. Light fires 816 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: in different ways under people. And if you don't live 817 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: in Texas, which we don't, but I talk to enough 818 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: people out there to live there or to feel like 819 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: I lived there. The last couple of weeks this has 820 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: been that's the wrong word to you, so I won't 821 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: use it, so you can't clip it. This has been 822 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: a very sizable change. It has been a landscape change 823 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: out in the state of Texas. I think it's going 824 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: to be a very good thing for Texas A and M. 825 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: And I think it's what could end up propelling them 826 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: to the next level, kind of into a different stratosphere. 827 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: And you want to talk about legacy. For all of 828 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: you who think the legacy of Jimbo Fisher at A 829 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,839 Speaker 1: and M will ultimately be well, he got a little 830 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: head start, but then when Texas came to the SEC, 831 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,880 Speaker 1: at hit the mute button on Jimbo Fisher in Texas, 832 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: A and M. As much as that is a popular 833 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,720 Speaker 1: thought out there right now, let me give you another scenario. 834 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: How's this for legacy? What if the history books end 835 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: up reading and in two twenty twenty one, Texas ended 836 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: up getting an invite to the SEC, And in twenty 837 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: twenty two the Horns came to the SEC and Jimbo 838 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 1: Fisher and the Aggies, took their program to the next level, 839 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,439 Speaker 1: looked across the state, nodded, and then won the first 840 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: championship in several generations despite Texas being in the SEC. 841 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: If you talk about legacy, imagine Jimbo Fisher's legacy, even 842 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: though the guy's already got a championship, if he wins 843 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,920 Speaker 1: one at A and M with Texas in the SEC, 844 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,240 Speaker 1: that is how you become sort of a generational, iconic 845 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: type coach instead of just one that's appreciated regionally or 846 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: maybe just in his own bubble. So I'm excited. And 847 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: if I was an A and N fan, I know 848 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: I'd be aggravated in the short term, but long term, 849 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: I'd be excited for this. You can look around. There 850 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,240 Speaker 1: are several other examples. I was on the BOL podcast 851 00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: with Travis Ryer and Tim Watts the other day and 852 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: we were talking about what it was like when Nick 853 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: Saban came to Bama. Auburn won a national championship. Three 854 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: years later, Auburn played for an other national championship three 855 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: years after that. I don't know definitively how history would 856 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: have turned out, but I'm of the belief Nick Saban 857 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 1: is the reason that Auburn felt the pressure that it 858 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: took to put the teams on the field that won 859 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,880 Speaker 1: those titles and played for those titles. I'm a believer 860 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: in that. So I'm a believer that that pressure can 861 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: either cook you or it can produce a diamond as 862 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: a result of the pressure. But you determine you are 863 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: the variable. You determine how that plays out, not the 864 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,200 Speaker 1: other guy. It doesn't have to be that way. If 865 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 1: your Prairie view, it's a different story. You're Texas A 866 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: and M. You got everything you ever need to succeed 867 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 1: in the sport, and you've got it in abundance. So 868 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm very excited to watch it play out. Thank you 869 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: for watching the show live. Subscribe to the channel if 870 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: you haven't already. We are rapidly approaching sixty thousand subs. 871 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 1: Seventy two percent of our viewers this week were unsubscribed 872 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 1: to this channel. You know what I'm asking you to do, 873 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: it's free to do. Make it happen like the video too, 874 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: and while you're at it, find me on Twitter and 875 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,840 Speaker 1: Instagram at late Kick Josh been having a lot of 876 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: fun on those platforms lately. And wait till we're at 877 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: games in the fall and then see what kind of 878 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: content you get as a bonus because you're following here 879 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 1: at late kick. Josh, all right, we got to get 880 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: out of here. Good show tonight. Thank you so much 881 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: for all the help that you're giving us and all 882 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,319 Speaker 1: the traffic as we sort of start the wave into 883 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: the season early this year for director Colin Noah and 884 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: company down in Fort Lauderdale. I'm Josh Payton. Have a 885 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: great rest of your week and God bless