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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome everybody.

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Speaker 2: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis en Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now. All right, let's just lay it

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Speaker 2: out for you more on the border crisis today. We

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Speaker 2: shall discuss that it's a mess for the Biden White House,

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Speaker 2: and the Senate compromise bill looks like it is going

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Speaker 2: to go nowhere, which we've really known all along.

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Speaker 1: Tensions rising in the Middle East perhaps the most cliched

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Speaker 1: TV chiron in the news business you'll ever see, because

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Speaker 1: tensions are pretty much always rising in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: It depends on what the period of temporary peace is

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Speaker 1: in between. But we'll talk about how Biden may respond

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Speaker 1: to this attack on a US base killed three three

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Speaker 1: members of a US army and what this could mean

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Speaker 1: obviously for security in the Middle East and also more

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Speaker 1: broadly in the political sense here at home, how Biden's

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Speaker 1: going to handle the prospect of getting involved in another

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Speaker 1: conflict or, as Joy Reid says, another bleep war you

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Speaker 1: may have that that went out over cable news. Another

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Speaker 1: bleeping war that one over cable news last night. So

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Speaker 1: we can talk about how that one was. I'm actually

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Speaker 1: with Joy Reid in so far as I don't want

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Speaker 1: us in another war. But I also know that when

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Speaker 1: you're on TV, you got to assume those mics are

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Speaker 1: always always open. Certainly we do here in radio. We

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Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot to dive into there on

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Speaker 2: the drone attack, the aftermath of it. Also there's footage

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Speaker 2: of this in a West Bank hospital. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many of you have seen the show Fauda Clay.

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Speaker 2: Are you familiar with Fouda No?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's excellent. It's a counter terrorism It's an Israeli

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Speaker 2: counter terrorism show, and it really focuses on on an

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Speaker 2: Israeli unit that is effect actively deep cover operating in

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Speaker 2: the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. It's a military

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Speaker 2: intelligence unit and they have obviously native Arabic speakers, but

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Speaker 2: they are fighting for the Israelis. People are pointing out

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Speaker 2: this video, this really happened in the West Bank. They

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Speaker 2: took out three three Palestinian terrorists. They're dressed as members

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Speaker 2: of the medical staff. A couple of women dressed in

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Speaker 2: like the full head to toe hitjab burka situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the Israelis they say this was to stop another

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Speaker 2: October seventh like attack, and so Israel is just going

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Speaker 2: to do what it has to.

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Speaker 1: Do to defend itself.

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Speaker 2: That was a story we'll get you later on the

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Speaker 2: program as well, but I want to do right now

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Speaker 2: dive into Owen Claike. You're going to have to explain

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Speaker 2: at some point to me today so that I can

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Speaker 2: feel like I know what's going on. I've never seen

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Speaker 2: so much chatter over a relationship that has now turned

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Speaker 2: into world changing conspiracy theory.

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Speaker 1: This is why I was rooting for the Ravens buck

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Speaker 1: because I knew Taylor Swift was going to take over

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Speaker 1: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: This Kelsey Swift thing. People are talking about this.

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Speaker 1: It's like the Illuminati in the Builderbergs, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy talk. What's going on here, crazy stuff that

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Speaker 1: they're somehow involved in the election. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what to say, Clay. You could try to explain it

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Speaker 1: to me later, because this is what the kids are

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Speaker 1: talking about online and I'm sitting here like this is

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Speaker 1: just uttered.

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Speaker 2: But Vivike, where's the I've got the Viveke. Actually, here

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Speaker 2: we go. You're gonna have to explain to me how

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Speaker 2: AVEC claims Taylor Swift and Travis Kelcey are in a

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Speaker 2: fake relationship and the Chiefs will win the rigged Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl over the forty nine ers to help Joe Biden

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what that is. We have audio

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Speaker 1: of that, like I don't, And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: ask will eventually dive in Veveika is a super smart

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Speaker 1: guy and sometimes sarcasm and you know, like having fun

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Speaker 1: does not translate. And so I'm curious. I saw that headline,

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Speaker 1: but I haven't actually dove into where he said it.

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Speaker 1: So would I would be interested in hearing that actual audio.

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Speaker 1: But yes, I feel as serious there needs to be

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Speaker 1: a little accountability for that. This is like I will

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Speaker 1: be the expert on the Taylor palooza that has taken

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Speaker 1: over the Super Bowl. So in the meantime, we mentioned

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Speaker 1: yesterday at the top of the show, or we got

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Speaker 1: to do it a little bit. This eighty three million

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Speaker 1: dollar judgment against the presumed Republican nominee in Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: I think we could say he's the presumptive nominee is fair.

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Speaker 1: It would be the biggest shock in I don't know,

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest shock in political memory for me if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump weren't going to end up being the nominee

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Speaker 1: at this point.

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Speaker 2: And we've been telling you this now for a couple

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Speaker 2: of weeks. But Egen, Carol went on with Rachel Maddow

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Speaker 2: last night. Who isn't she getting paid something like thirty

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Speaker 2: million a year to show up once a week. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's a great, great.

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Speaker 1: Gig in all of media buck there is a strong

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Speaker 1: argument that Rachel Maddow has the best contract. I don't

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Speaker 1: begrudge anybody who makes a lot of money, because obviously

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Speaker 1: MSNBC is making a lot of money. But yeah, the

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Speaker 1: reports are that she makes thirty million dollars a year

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Speaker 1: to show up once a week to do that show.

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Speaker 1: It's astonishing. So anyway, something the goals hashtag goals, Yes,

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Speaker 1: But here she is eging Carol when she's asked what

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Speaker 1: she's going to do with Donald Trump's money, which he

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Speaker 1: hasn't given her yet. But that's a whole other part

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Speaker 1: of this, like what's the actual sum going to be?

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Speaker 1: This is how the woman who claims she was sexually

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Speaker 1: assaulted by Donald Trump. It was in the eighties, right,

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Speaker 1: or was it the nineties. I don't the nineties, the eighties,

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Speaker 1: it was like thirty years ago. Whatever, let's just thirty

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Speaker 1: plus years ago. This is how she speaks about this

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Speaker 1: verdict in this eighty three million dollars judgment. Play ten.

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Speaker 1: You've talked about using some of Trump's money that you're

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Speaker 1: about to get to help shore up women's rights. Do

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Speaker 1: you know what that might be, what that might look like?

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Speaker 3: Rachel?

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Speaker 1: Yes, tell me, I had such such great ideas for

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Speaker 1: all the good I'm going to do with this money.

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Speaker 1: First thing, Rachel, you and I aren.

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Speaker 4: Go shopping for to get completely.

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Speaker 1: New wardrobes, new shoes, motorcycle for Crowling, new fishing rod

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Speaker 1: for Robbie. Rachel, what do you want? Penhouse's Rachel Penhouse

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Speaker 1: and France? You want France? You want to go fishing

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Speaker 1: in France. No, that's a joke. Now, Clay, I understand

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Speaker 1: what the Democrats are going to say. They're going to say, Oh,

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Speaker 1: but she's laughing, she's joking. Let's all understand. She's accused.

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Speaker 2: She accused Donald Trump of forcible rape in the dressing

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Speaker 2: room of a department store in New York City, which

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Speaker 2: is a horrible violent Now he wasn't even in the

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Speaker 2: civil child found guilty of that. I think it was

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Speaker 2: sexual assault, but not actually rape, right, that's the I

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Speaker 2: believe that's correct, and I want to dive into that

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Speaker 2: because I think it's significant. But yeah, sometimes people will

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Speaker 2: refer to a rape as sexualists or you know, it

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Speaker 2: is a form of sexual assault. So these specificities or

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Speaker 2: the specifics here are something that we should nail down.

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Speaker 2: But my point is merely clay. If that happens to

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Speaker 2: bring it forward thirty years later and take it into court.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing funny about this, right, I mean, if that

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Speaker 2: person would think there's some solemnity, that there's some hope

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Speaker 2: that the justice system is punishing a person for doing

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Speaker 2: something awful. It's not a big joke, is my point.

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Speaker 2: But to her, it is a big joke, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Well. I think this is devastating for anybody out there

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Speaker 1: who's tried to hold her up as a as a

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Speaker 1: true victim. I'm not. Look, I can't, I don't. I

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that that Donald Trump did to her

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Speaker 1: I believe that all of her actions have demonstrated that

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Speaker 1: there is I think a preponderance of the evidence that

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Speaker 1: he didn't do this. And if you were truly a victim,

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Speaker 1: I don't think you would go on MSNBC and talk

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Speaker 1: about the way you're gonna celebrate your eighty three million

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Speaker 1: I don't buy into this, and I mentioned this yesterday, Buck,

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Speaker 1: but I think this is important in a big way.

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Speaker 1: And I want to ask lawyers out there eight hundred

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Speaker 1: I don't understand the procedural posture of this case. Let's

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Speaker 1: leave aside Egene Carroll laughing yucking it up up on

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Speaker 1: to come back and keep talking about it. But in

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Speaker 1: the first suit, Trump was accused of rape and and

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Speaker 1: sexual assault. Okay, simply put, Rape obviously usually requires some

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Speaker 1: being graphic here, but it's the legal distinction, right, some

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Speaker 1: form of penetration of a sexual nature. Sexual assault often

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Speaker 1: that would be made here in the law. Yeah, So

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Speaker 1: the jury in the first trial found that Trump did

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Speaker 1: not rape her, They found that he committed sexual assault,

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Speaker 1: then they found him guilty libel for defamation based on comments.

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Speaker 1: This second lawsuit that just happened, that he made in

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Speaker 1: can Trump be responsible for defamation from comments he made

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Speaker 1: come down until twenty twenty three. They said he defamed

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Speaker 1: her based on the jury verdict. Well, the jury verdict

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Speaker 1: didn't happen for four years. Second part here, buck, and

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Speaker 1: this is complicated too. He did when he said that

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Speaker 1: with him, partially because she said she was raped, and

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Speaker 1: the jury didn't believe that. They believed she was sexually assaulted.

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Speaker 1: They didn't believe he raped her. So I don't understand

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Speaker 1: from a legal perspective how this is not defamation. How

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Speaker 1: this is defamation because even based on the trial that

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Speaker 1: happened four years after these comments, they agreed that he

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Speaker 1: didn't rape her. So his lie in comment is true.

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Speaker 1: So I have a theory here, my non lawyer theory,

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Speaker 1: my political theory, which I think supersedes the law here.

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Speaker 1: This is all just practice.

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Speaker 2: It's repetition of flexing the muscle of anti Trump law

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Speaker 2: fair here, it's just showing people that if you get

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Speaker 2: a New York jury at this point in time, that

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Speaker 2: you're gonna put Trump up for anything, You're gonna nail him.

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Speaker 2: And this is what concerns me about this.

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Speaker 1: We've been operating under this idea that the Alvin Bragg

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Speaker 1: the age of thirty. Taylor Swift has already endorsed in

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Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen pretty aggressively, and Marcia is still a

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Speaker 1: United States Senator. Marcia Blackburn smoked her opponent, Brettison, who

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Speaker 1: substance that's going to challenge her, and she's going to

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Speaker 1: win by twenty so I don't think Taylor Swift is

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Speaker 1: going to have much of an impact. I think it's

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Speaker 1: a sign of desperation in the Biden camp that they're

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Speaker 1: talking about celebrity influencers as the way that they're going

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Speaker 1: to connect with young voters and somehow convince them to

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Speaker 1: go out and support And I'll just point out Biden's

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Speaker 1: really not popular, so I don't again I would welcome.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say this, and I've said this about

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Speaker 1: athletes for a long time. If Taylor Swift felt super

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Speaker 1: strong in her political opinions and she wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: to the largest political radio show in the country, we

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Speaker 1: would have Taylor Swift on this show and she could

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Speaker 1: make her arguments to you. I think, generally speaking, most athletes,

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Speaker 1: most entertainers, most people who are actors, most people who

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Speaker 1: are in the celebrity universe, are surrounded by yes and

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Speaker 1: no men and women. That is, they say whatever they want.

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Speaker 1: They have a whole coterie of advisors that give them

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Speaker 1: everything that they want, and they're just not very well informed.

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Speaker 1: And I've been arguing this for a long time that

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Speaker 1: if Lebron James did one fifteen minute interview on politics,

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Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick same way. I think after fifteen minutes, you

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Speaker 1: would be like, my goodness, I'm never listening to this

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Speaker 1: guy's political opinion ever again, because I think they would

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Speaker 1: get fullaid. I think people that understand anything already know

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Speaker 1: that Lebron James understands nothing. I mean, this is not

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Speaker 1: a This wouldn't be a surprise to most folks. I

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Speaker 1: think what you're saying is even some of the people

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Speaker 1: that are willing to listen to them, which is mistake

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Speaker 1: number one, would change their mind if they if they

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Speaker 1: heard the extent of the ignorance of some of these

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Speaker 1: individuals who wax philosophical and public about politics and about

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Speaker 1: American life. Did you ever here? Maybe we can grab

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Speaker 1: this audio because it is amazing. Did you ever hear

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Speaker 1: Lebron James he was reading the Autobiography of Malcolm X,

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Speaker 1: and like there's all these Lebron is like one of

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Speaker 1: the fakest people that's ever lived, I think in sports.

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Speaker 1: But there's all these pictures of Lebron walking around with books,

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Speaker 1: like he claims that he's always educating himself and everything else.

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Speaker 1: Can guys, let me ask the staff to pull this

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Speaker 1: because if you've never heard this book, you're gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: this is amazing. A sports reporter quizzed the Lebron James

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Speaker 1: several years ago on what he had learned so far

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Speaker 1: from reading the Autobiography of Malcolm X. And if you

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Speaker 1: have ever been in a classroom, maybe it was you

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Speaker 1: when you got quizzed by a teacher about a book

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Speaker 1: that you were not reading, that you were supposed to

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Speaker 1: be reading. It was I mean, it is amazing. I

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Speaker 1: think it's videos even better, I think, but the audio

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Speaker 1: want to get involved in the political sphere, I think

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Speaker 1: you have to be willing to really go in depth.

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Speaker 1: For instance, Buck Well, Aaron Rodgers. You can agree or

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Speaker 1: disagree with Aaron Rodgers when you actually I texted you

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Speaker 1: when he was on ESPN recently and they were grilling

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, he's actually very well read and there's depth

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Speaker 1: to his knowledge. Whether you agree with it or disagree

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Speaker 1: fairly well informed. Most of these athletes and entertainers, if

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Speaker 1: you ask them three questions, they'll fall apart and they

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Speaker 1: will have absolutely no ability to defend their perspective. Pull

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Speaker 1: that the staff will play that maybe at the end

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Speaker 1: of this hour. Lebron James on his book review of

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Speaker 1: the Autobiography of Malcolm X is it is just I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm quizzing him about whether he's reading the books that

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Speaker 1: he's supposed to be reading or not. It's always interesting, though,

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Speaker 1: to go through the exercise of thinking, why is it

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Speaker 1: that the people who and I'm not saying I can't

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Speaker 1: come up with answers for this, I think we do

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Speaker 1: it on a regular basis. But people for whom life

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Speaker 1: has been incredibly fortunate, I mean, they are there's a yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know there was, oh, but they work so hard.

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Speaker 1: Where there's athletes or musicians everybody works hard, man, this

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Speaker 1: whole thing. They don't even It's like they don't work

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Speaker 1: that hard, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean you if I was six foot eight and

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Speaker 2: years old, I would have been in the NBA too.

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Speaker 2: I know this might be a shock to some people,

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Speaker 2: but yeah. And you know Taylor Swift, you know has

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Speaker 2: a she has a very good voice, she's very pretty.

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Speaker 1: I mean these things all she writes her own song.

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Speaker 1: She's more talented hard. But I'm just saying, these are

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Speaker 1: people for whom some things have lined up very well.

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Speaker 1: And they live in America. You know, if they had

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Speaker 1: been born in Taliban controlled Afghanistan, none of that stuff

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Speaker 1: would have mattered. It only matters, really because they're here

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Speaker 1: in America, or maybe they could have been in you know,

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Speaker 1: some Western European countries, a few other places where you

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Speaker 1: have a free market and people can achieve. My point

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Speaker 1: is just it's merely they all have the same that

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Speaker 1: these people who are so fortunate. Instead of understanding that

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Speaker 1: there's so much to learn about life and that they

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Speaker 1: should be approaching things with humility, they think like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: because I'm really good at this sport, or because I

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Speaker 1: sing really well. I also should tell everybody about how

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Speaker 1: the country should be run. And it's you know, Lebron

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Speaker 1: like on law enforcement for example, to me would be

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Speaker 1: skyhook or something. It's just there are areas of knowledge

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Speaker 1: that people have in areas of knowledge that they don't,

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Speaker 1: but they're all left wing as well. This is the

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Speaker 2: Really constantly mouthing off about politics and the public sphere,

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that I think is so interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and also I would just point out in the eighties

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Speaker 1: a backwards way of thinking, which is oh, because these

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Speaker 1: just say again with anybody, same thing for you and me.

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Speaker 1: You can agree or disagree with me and Buck, but

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Speaker 1: I can say that that happened to Lissa Milano. So

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Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing. So there's that.

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Speaker 2: with the latest here on the Abiding Administration response to

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Speaker 2: the prone attack in Jordan. There reporting on this has

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Speaker 2: been that they misidentified a returning throne to a US

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Speaker 2: it seems that a group called Kataiv Hesbaalah operating out

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Speaker 2: They think they struck them from Iraq. They're a Shia

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Speaker 2: Shia Muslim terrorist group backed by Iran and they have

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Speaker 2: many years. So that's the perpetrator as far as we

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Speaker 2: know right now, now we get to what the response

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Speaker 1: Some salty language to the lunatics designation. I believe that

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Speaker 5: President Biden said he's ready to take action if Congress.

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Speaker 1: Is serious about solving the border issue. That bill over

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Speaker 1: the law today. I'd shut down the border right now

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Speaker 1: and fix it quickly. And Congress needs to get it

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Speaker 5: Still trying to kill the deal, he bragged about blocking

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Speaker 5: progress and said please please blame him as it fails.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you heard that, but clearly she

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Speaker 2: say about it. Okay, So Clay, that's that's one thing. Notice, though,

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Speaker 2: way more what you want to say this first?

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just gonna say astoundingly, there has been

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Speaker 1: and I'm probably jinxing us in the three some odd years,

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Speaker 1: though you are not about to say that. I think,

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Speaker 1: come in to jenxus. Neither one of us has cursed

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Speaker 1: on the radio in three some odd years.

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Speaker 2: Either of us do know it is Clay's fault, by

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Speaker 2: the way, because you never talk about this on a

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Speaker 2: radio show. We have never cursed on the air, which

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Speaker 2: is an amazing accomplishment so far. And I certainly jinks

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Speaker 2: this right now.

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Speaker 1: And there to my knowledge, has never been a off

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Speaker 1: air comment air during the show. The reason why I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing this up is in general, I don't like this

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Speaker 1: is going This will happen to almost any show at

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Speaker 1: some point in time over the course of a show.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting to me, Buck, is when what airs is

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Speaker 1: different than what would be said. That's when it's a story, right,

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Speaker 1: Like if you or I off air are audio heard

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Speaker 1: and we're saying kind of the same thing, maybe just

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Speaker 1: in a little bit more riskue fashion than we would

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Speaker 1: typically say given FCC restrictions.

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Speaker 2: Clay and I sound the same all the time, but

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Speaker 2: we're adults who do occasionally curse. We're not on the radio,

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Speaker 2: but everything else is exactly what you would expect.

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Speaker 1: But so it's not. It's when there's a distance between

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Speaker 1: what you would say on air and what you would

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Speaker 1: say off air, not just in language, but in overall argument.

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Speaker 1: And that, to me is what makes this interesting for

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Speaker 1: joy Reed, right, is that she's saying something different to

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Speaker 1: off air audience than she would on air. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah. So she's playing this clip of Biden's coming back.

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Speaker 2: She's like, well, Biden's going to handle this fantastic. He's like, yeah,

681
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Speaker 2: Harry is going to start another war like the clown

682
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Speaker 2: that he you know, right, she knows even she knows

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Speaker 2: that you can't trust this administration to handle something like this.

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Speaker 2: Tony Blinken, who I have it on good authority from

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Speaker 2: people I know that are still in the government.

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Speaker 1: Is one of.

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Speaker 2: The most unimpressive individuals you can think of to have

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Speaker 2: held a cabinet position in a long time. You could

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Speaker 2: say he is the peat Buddha Judge of the State Department,

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Speaker 2: as in.

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Speaker 1: That guy's in charge. Really wow. But here he is

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Speaker 1: letting everybody know the actual Secretary of State for now

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Speaker 1: Tony blinken that they will this is cut one, that

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Speaker 1: the response will be decisive.

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Speaker 5: We will respond decisively to any aggression, and we will

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Speaker 5: hold responsible the people who attacked our troops will do

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Speaker 5: so at a time in a place at US.

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Speaker 2: So there are three basic options here. Wall Street Journal

699
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Speaker 2: laid this out today, but this is obvious. It's not

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Speaker 2: like a Wall Street Journal was figuring this out late

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Speaker 2: into the night. You can hit the people who hit you,

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Speaker 2: meaning the proxies. You can hit the Iranians who backed

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Speaker 2: the proxyes. So that might be some kind of attack,

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Speaker 2: you know, some kind of strike on military facilities in Iran,

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Speaker 2: naval facilities in the open ocean, something like, you know,

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Speaker 2: naval ships in the ocean. Or you can do something economic,

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Speaker 2: which is no, that's not gonna do anything, right, but

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Speaker 2: that those are really the options here. But I think

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Speaker 2: laying that out, somebody can probably figure out from my

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Speaker 2: tone play they're not really going to do anything. And

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Speaker 2: now a worst thing would be to do something that

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Speaker 2: starts a war, to be clear. So I do think

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Speaker 2: that striking Iran would be something that's an escalation, like

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Speaker 2: hitting Iran on their soil in a way that would

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Speaker 2: really hurt. I think that's an escalation that we don't

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Speaker 2: need and is a bad idea. But I mean, the proxies, okay,

717
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Speaker 2: so we'll bomb some you know, we're they're going to

718
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Speaker 2: end up losing some facilities out in the desert of Iraq. Basically,

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Speaker 2: I think that's all that's going to end up happening here.

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Speaker 2: So question for you.

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Speaker 1: October seventh, the terror attack comas Is slaughters twelve hundred

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Speaker 1: innocent Israelis. We're now about to hit February this week.

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Speaker 1: We will, and the response from Israel is still ongoing

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Speaker 1: inside of Gaza and the West Bank. As we discussed before,

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Speaker 1: they're hitting them in the West Bank too. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: so this is ongoing and we're now what was that November, December, January,

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Speaker 1: February now four months into the Israeli response to this attack.

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Speaker 1: On October seventh, and that is the precipitating factor under

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Speaker 1: which American soldiers are also being targeted because of the

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Speaker 1: United States connection to Israel, and that has created all

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Speaker 1: of this, you know, mushroom cloud for lack of a

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Speaker 1: better phrasing, that has happened in the Middle East. How

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Speaker 1: many more months does this continue? Buck in your mind

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Speaker 1: if you were analyzing it. And the reason why I

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Speaker 1: bring it up is obviously you have a CII background,

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Speaker 1: you can analyze this. But you just heard me talking

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Speaker 1: with Ryan Gardusky. If you look at the presidential politics,

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Speaker 1: next week we will officially hit nine months until the election.

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Speaker 1: And I do think that there are Jewish people listening

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Speaker 1: to us right now who are going to change the

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Speaker 1: way that they were vote, that they would have voted

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Speaker 1: based on October seventh. I believe that we'll see in

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Speaker 1: nine months whether that's correct or not. And I also

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Speaker 1: think there are Arab voters in the United States that

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Speaker 1: are unhappy with the Democrat You just heard Ryan Gurdsky

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Speaker 1: say this might be the beginning of the end of

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Speaker 1: the relationship between Jewish Americans and the Democrat Party, which

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Speaker 1: has typically represented them. Over the fact that there are

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Speaker 1: way more Arabs now in the United States than Jews.

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Speaker 1: So Buck, in that context, how many more months do

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Speaker 1: you think this goes on? And do you think this

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Speaker 1: story in general is going to continue to be an

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Speaker 1: issue by the time people go to the valid box

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Speaker 1: in November. I think my belief, Clay on this is

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Speaker 1: that this will have by the summer died down to

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Speaker 1: the point where it won't be much of a consideration

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Speaker 1: at all in the election, just because the Israelis have

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Speaker 1: done most of the heavy fighting they're going to do

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Speaker 1: in Gaza at this point, they don't care what the Internet,

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Speaker 1: they quote international community says about it. They just did

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Speaker 1: this undercover raid. It's basically a hit. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: a targeted strike and assassination, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 1: But they sent guys in playing clothes into a hospital

764
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Speaker 1: in the West Bank and they killed three bad guys.

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Speaker 1: Because these Raelies aren't playing games, They're they're going to

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Speaker 1: do what they have to do to defend themselves. In

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of October seventh, they're hitting military targets, but

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Speaker 1: you know they're using subterfuge on the battlefield to accomplish that.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that there's not going to be

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Speaker 1: nearly the focus on this that there has been. Also,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've we have these these outposts really in

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Speaker 1: Iraq and Syria, these very isolated US military bases. You know,

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Speaker 1: they get hit occasionally or with with what they call

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Speaker 1: IDF indirect fire, so they'll be hit with uh you know, mortars, rockets,

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Speaker 1: things like that.

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Speaker 2: It's really just to you know, unnerve the base. Rarely

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Speaker 2: does it actually result in what we saw here. They

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Speaker 2: they managed to sneak through there are you know, they

779
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Speaker 2: have air defenses and radar and things at these at

780
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Speaker 2: these installations, they snuck through a pretty sizable explosive payload

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Speaker 2: on a drone. They killed three and they wounded a

782
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Speaker 2: couple of dozen others. I mean, this was a this

783
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Speaker 2: was a big explosion that went off. Uh, So they

784
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Speaker 2: got us on this one. I think that the question

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Speaker 2: going forward is going to be more how long do

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Speaker 2: we plan to have US military presence in the region,

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Speaker 2: because it does bring to people's mind the ongoing peacekeeping

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Speaker 2: mission that we tried to play in Lebanon back in

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Speaker 2: the Reagan days, and Hesbela hit us at the marine

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Speaker 2: barracks and killed hundreds of Marines with with the mass

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Speaker 2: truck suicide bombing attack, right, So, you know, I think

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Speaker 2: that longer term, there's the question about are we going

793
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Speaker 2: to start to just realize that we don't need to

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Speaker 2: have this four deployed presence in this way, and then

795
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 2: it just turns into you know, if you step out

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Speaker 2: of line, we're going to hit whatever it is with

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Speaker 2: air strikes.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's going to be it. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: not going to think twice about the damage that will

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Speaker 1: have to be done as a result of it. I

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00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to move the politics here at

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00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: home very much at all, because there's so many other

803
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Speaker 1: factors that are at play. And I think that people

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Speaker 1: every single I'll tell you this, every single person who's

805
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Speaker 1: out there in any way in solidarity with Palestine or

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Speaker 1: talking about how it's a genocide in Gaza. They are

807
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Speaker 1: the left wing base of the Democrat Party, right so there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, they were going to vote that way anyway,

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Speaker 1: this notion of the Muslim community because of Michigan, I

810
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Speaker 1: think deciding what are they gonna do. They're gonna vote

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Speaker 1: Republican and maybe some of them stay home. But I

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Speaker 1: think there are enough other issues that are important to

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Speaker 1: them that they will likely continue to vote Democrat anyway.

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Speaker 1: That's just my read on it. But as for the

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Speaker 1: situation with Iran, I mean, Clay, we have been meeting

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Speaker 1: the US dealing with this thing now for forty some

817
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Speaker 1: odd years since the revolution in seventy nine and seventy nine,

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Speaker 1: and we've been talking about, oh, maybe they'll democratize, maybe

819
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Speaker 1: they'll be an overthrow, maybe they'll be you know. The

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Speaker 1: answer is the Iranian regime is you know, probably has

821
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Speaker 1: another twenty or thirty years in it as is, and

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Speaker 1: we just got to keep them from messing up everything

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Speaker 1: for the rest of us. I mean, it's a shame

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Speaker 1: the Iranian people. I think there's plenty of evidence that,

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Speaker 1: especially the younger generation in Iran. It's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of people who are they like Americans, which we really hear,

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Speaker 1: but they're pro American. Certainly Persians in this country I

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Speaker 1: think appreciate America because of what they left behind, you know,

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Speaker 1: the tyranny they left behind. But you know that this

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Speaker 1: is why all this talk about what are we going

831
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Speaker 1: to do with Iran? It's kind of like North Korea.

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Speaker 1: You just try to contain it. But I don't think

833
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Speaker 1: there's a solve. There's no solving this problem. And that's

834
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Speaker 1: not that's not something that people hear and feel like

835
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Speaker 1: there's a satisfying answer there. But that is the answers.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing we're gonna do that's gonna solve this. We

837
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Speaker 1: just want to keep it from spiraling out of control.

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Speaker 1: All of you out by the way, We've got a

839
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Speaker 1: fun clip that we're going to play for you when

840
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: we come back. It's Lebron James book report. We were

841
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: talking earlier about Taylor Swift and all the celebrities out

842
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: there getting involved in politics. Lebron James being quizzed about

843
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Speaker 1: reading the autobiography of Malcolm X. I guarantee you're going

844
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Speaker 1: to love this. And maybe back in the day, there's

845
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: a video tape of you out there talking about a

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Speaker 1: book you didn't read. Maybe maybe possibly remember the all

847
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Speaker 1: the reports you had to do? Was it reading Rainbow?

848
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Speaker 1: Remember watching that back in the day in your classrooms.

849
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Speaker 1: I was flying home Sunday from South Florida. I set

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Speaker 1: next to I thought it was so cool. I set

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Speaker 1: next to a woman who's now the principal of the

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Speaker 1: elementary school that I went to. No idea she I

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Speaker 1: don't think had any idea what I did or anything else.

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Speaker 1: But I went to a school called Gilitzveell Elementary, and

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Speaker 1: you know what's cool. When I was in first grade,

856
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Speaker 1: we did a time capsule. We put all this old

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Speaker 1: stuff into the time capsule nineteen eighty five, and it's

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Speaker 1: going to get opened next year, in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 1: So I was asking the principle about was a time

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Speaker 1: capsule still there? What are the processes under which the

861
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Speaker 1: time capsule is going to get opened? I remember writing

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Speaker 1: something and putting it in there. I think we were

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Speaker 1: All right, Ryan, There's been a lot of fiery conversation.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've seen it some on the social media

886
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 1: apps after I said that in order to win, Trump

887
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Speaker 1: had to do better with college educated women in the suburbs,

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Speaker 1: particularly focusing on the Philly area, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Phoenix, those

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Speaker 1: big cities in those swing states with large suburban female populations,

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Speaker 1: much of which is college educated. Right wrong? There, Where

891
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: is this election going to be decided as we sit

892
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Speaker 1: basically nine months out based on the data as you

893
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Speaker 1: have seen it.

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Speaker 3: So in the most important swing states, everyone's going to

895
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Speaker 3: make a lot of conversation about the Hispanic vote on

896
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Speaker 3: the Asian vote. But most important states in this upcoming

897
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Speaker 3: election North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, you can throw

898
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:12,240
Speaker 3: at New Hampshire you'd like, are ninety percent black white states.

899
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Speaker 3: The only truly diverse one will baby be Arizona and Nevada.

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Speaker 3: So the vote will be so Trump's. If Trump manages

901
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Speaker 3: to get forty percent of the Hispanic vote, that will

902
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: be great and it will certainly help him in Texas,

903
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 3: and Arizona and Nevada will not really make that much

904
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Speaker 3: a difference in the most critical swing states, So I

905
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Speaker 3: like to preface with that. So the vote will then

906
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Speaker 3: come down to a question of college educated white voters,

907
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: non college educated white voters, and black voters.

908
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 4: Trump needs to do one of the three to win.

909
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 3: He needs to either a make a reversal of college

910
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 3: educated voters, which he has been sliding with, and continue

911
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: to slide in The New York Times Santa Pol the

912
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 3: last one. Donald Trump does worse with college educated white

913
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Speaker 3: voters than any Republican since Barry Goldwater in nineteen sixty four,

914
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Speaker 3: which was not a good election for Republicans. He needs

915
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Speaker 3: to turn out rep Republican non college educated voters. This

916
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Speaker 3: is the base of the Republican Party. This is a

917
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Speaker 3: group that got him elected the first time in twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 3: and they are the group that are about one to

919
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Speaker 3: five Biden voters or one in four Biden voters depending

920
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Speaker 3: on the poll you look at our non college educated

921
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Speaker 3: white So Trump can take five percent of that voter

922
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Speaker 3: group that was going to vote for Joe Biden into

923
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Speaker 3: his coalition that wins in the presidency. Or the black vote. Now,

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Speaker 3: a lot of people have said the poll show the

925
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Speaker 3: black vote is going to be swinging more towards Trump

926
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Speaker 3: than ever before. I am a doubter in that because

927
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Speaker 3: it has never happened in our history. The most in

928
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Speaker 3: any in thirty years we've seen their black vote is

929
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Speaker 3: go eleven percent for George W. Bush in two thousand

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Speaker 3: and four. I don't believe it's going to have a

931
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Speaker 3: huge swing. What's happening with the black vote?

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Speaker 4: And this is key.

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Speaker 3: Older Black voters are the most loyal Democrats there in

934
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Speaker 3: the country. As they begin to die out, like all

935
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Speaker 3: populations die out, younger black voters are replacing them are

936
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Speaker 3: less aligned with the Democratic but they are still eighty

937
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Speaker 3: five percent Democrat. They're just not ninety five percent Democrat.

938
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Speaker 3: So either black turnout has to decline, or the black

939
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Speaker 3: vote has to splinter a little bit more than a denicod.

940
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Speaker 3: But most importantly, it has to decline. The black vote

941
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Speaker 3: declined from twenty twelve to twenty sixteen, and that's what

942
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Speaker 3: Trump elected in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. If the black

943
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Speaker 3: vote declines, that would be more important than if a

944
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Speaker 3: one percent or two percent move towards towards Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Ryan, it's buck, thanks for being here.

946
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Speaker 2: The polls in the swing states have looked very, very

947
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Speaker 2: strong for Trump, better than they've ever looked that I

948
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 2: can think of in the past. When you've had a

949
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Speaker 2: election year like this, what.

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Speaker 1: Do you attribute that to?

951
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Speaker 2: And what as somebody who wants to see a Republican

952
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Speaker 2: winning in this next election?

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Speaker 1: What worries you? Because I think right now there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a quiet confidence, maybe even a quiet

955
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Speaker 1: over confidence in some corners of Mago world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, what.

957
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Speaker 3: Is happening, I think is Joe Biden. There is in

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Speaker 3: twenty twelve. Famously, Obama's campaigns that we need frame the

959
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Speaker 3: conversation on Mitt Romney early so that no matter how

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Speaker 3: much money Republicans spend, people's perception of him as an

961
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Speaker 3: outer touch, out of touch rich man will carry us

962
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Speaker 3: through the election day.

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Speaker 4: And it worked.

964
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Speaker 3: I think the idea of Joe Biden being an incompetent

965
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Speaker 3: old man who possibly has memory issues, who cannot complete

966
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Speaker 3: a sentence in a timely manner, and who has dropped

967
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Speaker 3: the ball on everything from the economy to foreign policy,

968
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Speaker 3: which was a major first thing with the Afghanistan withdrawal.

969
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Speaker 4: How botched it was to the border.

970
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Speaker 3: And even though the economy is improving according to most

971
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Speaker 3: economic indicators, perception is I still can't buy a house

972
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Speaker 3: because the seven percent interest rate, and Biden really doesn't know.

973
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Speaker 4: What he's doing.

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Speaker 3: The economy improving is one of the biggest concerns, and

975
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Speaker 3: also what concerns me with the college educated white vote.

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Speaker 3: College educated white voters have the highest voter turnout of

977
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Speaker 3: any demographic group. Following that is black voters, and following

978
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Speaker 3: that as non college.

979
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Speaker 4: Educated white voters.

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 3: I am very afraid of noncollege educated white voters not

981
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: showing up and the repentsany even though they're the largest

982
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Speaker 3: demographic group in this country, some of the worst turnout

983
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Speaker 3: rates possible. What I'm afraid of is them being complacent

984
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 3: and not showing up. I'm afraid that if the economy

985
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,760
Speaker 3: improves too much that it will that people start changing

986
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Speaker 3: their minds midway through the year, which is not impossible.

987
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 3: And lastly, the thing that worries me the most is

988
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Speaker 3: that for Republicans, for independent voters, right independent voters a

989
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: group of Republicans more than Democrats on basically every single issue,

990
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 3: from education to foreign policies, trades and taxes, to immigration.

991
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 3: The two issues they do not agree with Republicans are

992
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: are abortion and the twenty twenty election being stolen. It

993
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 3: is a major, major, major fission point. If your life

994
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 3: is pretty good, there is not a high crime, you're

995
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 3: not seeing migrants in your town, and you are making it.

996
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 3: You have a good living, you have a good job.

997
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 3: Issues like that matter more to you, like like college

998
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: educated white voters in the Philly suburbs and the Phoenix suburbs,

999
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 3: people who will be thinking about that. And my fear

1000
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: is that Trump will be running on the twenty twenty election,

1001
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: and you know in twenty twenty one, I think he

1002
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 3: sat there and said, you can thank me for banning abortion.

1003
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 3: And I mean, that's what Joe Biden's first two ads

1004
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 3: have been twenty twenty January sixth and abortion. That's always

1005
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 3: going to run on because that will he thinks fissier

1006
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Speaker 3: the Poles.

1007
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: And breaking things down in the Midwest. I think that

1008
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: Trump's going to come back and win Arizona and win Georgia.

1009
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: If I'm right on that, then Trump would just need

1010
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: to win, mathematically one of the states in the upper Midwest. Right,

1011
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: this is assuming the bad is not in play, assuming

1012
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: New Hampshire is not in play. He'd have to win

1013
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: Pencilania Michigan, or or he'd have to win Wisconsin. Right,

1014
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: that's the math. Basically Michigan because of the large Jewish

1015
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 1: population and the large Arab population. There's a Detroit News

1016
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: pull out that had Trump up substantially. Do you buy

1017
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: into the idea of October seventh and the fallout of

1018
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: the discord between Hamas Palestinians Jews that that could really

1019
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: swing the state of Michigan Or Am I reading too

1020
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 1: much into that harshly?

1021
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 3: But you have to remember a lot of Muslims in

1022
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 3: this country are under the age of eighteen, just like

1023
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 3: a lot of Amish in Pennsylvania. Most Amish in Pennsylvania

1024
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,320
Speaker 3: are under the age of eighteen. Most Muslims in Michigan

1025
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 3: are under the age of eighteen.

1026
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 4: So though the.

1027
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 3: Muslim population is large, those capable of voting is fairly small.

1028
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 3: Is it enough to swing the election. Possibly, But there's

1029
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 3: also two hundred thousand Muslims in the state of Georgia,

1030
00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: So it just depends on how real this pushback of

1031
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: are because they live far outside. I mean, everyone's talking

1032
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,719
Speaker 3: in but they are hundreds of thousands of them in

1033
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 3: Arizona and Georgia and these very very close states.

1034
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 4: They could well impact it. What this, But the.

1035
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: Long term reality is if Joe Biden loses because the

1036
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 3: Muslim vote sits out in twenty twenty four to punish

1037
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 3: him for his Israel thing, you can very well bet

1038
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 3: that there will never be or probably not be, a

1039
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 3: Democratic president even remotely favorable to Israel anymore. This is

1040
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:32,240
Speaker 3: the divide the mass immigration. We've imported three million Muslims.

1041
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: There are way more Muslims than there are Jews. Now

1042
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:36,840
Speaker 3: in this country. You can absolutely bet that the future

1043
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: of this country is going to have a very anti

1044
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: Israel Democratic party.

1045
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: Do you think Jews as voting group are usually it's

1046
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: like sixty five thirty five. Do you think Jewish people

1047
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: are likely to move it all in twenty twenty four

1048
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: over this issue? Are you skeptical they're going to move?

1049
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: Because demographics have changed. The Woody Allen Jews, the older

1050
00:56:56,320 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 3: liberal Barber Schreisan, non religious Jews, they did have any

1051
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 3: children over the last forty years, so their population is

1052
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 3: between the black Hats, the Orthodox, the Conservative Jews, the

1053
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: Ben Schapiro Jews, the Hastem Jews. They are the ones

1054
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 3: having children. So the demographics are changing very quickly among

1055
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Speaker 3: this population, simply because Borough Park, Brooklyn, if you know

1056
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: what it is, it's a very Hasidic Jewish place is

1057
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: growing and the Upper West Side, which is like the

1058
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Speaker 3: more liberal place, is shrinking in the Jewish population, and

1059
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Speaker 3: that will change the Jewish profile of how Jewish voters

1060
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Speaker 3: cast their battles in the future.

1061
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Speaker 1: I just want to give you a minute here, because

1062
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Speaker 1: we get a lot of calls about this. Still, I

1063
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Speaker 1: know that you agree with me, so I love asking

1064
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Speaker 1: the question that Michelle Obama is not going to be

1065
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: the Democrat nominee. But can you just explain why you

1066
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 1: think that is to everybody? Because the all the emails

1067
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Speaker 1: all we get are calls people saying Clay is right,

1068
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Speaker 1: and Emo's saying she's going to be the nominee. Why

1069
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: do you think it is. Look, no one can see

1070
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Speaker 1: the future. Maybe Clay is right. Maybe a lot of

1071
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: folks writing in or right. Why do you think it's

1072
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Speaker 1: very challenging for that to actually happen?

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Speaker 3: Okay, First, she does not like politics. Shippin Lee says

1074
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Speaker 3: she does not like politics. She has never given the

1075
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Speaker 3: political world is very, very small as far as consultants go.

1076
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Speaker 3: You can very especially for a presidential campaign. You know,

1077
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Speaker 3: somebody who works for anybody in business. Nobody works for

1078
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Speaker 3: Michelle Obama as a professional consulting running for president and.

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Speaker 4: So repeatedly doesn't Trump, which most.

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Speaker 3: Black women in America don't like Donald Trump. That would

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Speaker 3: be the first thing. Second thing, Joe Biden has this

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Speaker 3: nomination wrapped up. He would have to die or step down.

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Speaker 3: If he does decide to step down, or if he

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Speaker 3: you know, something happens to his health and he cannot serve.

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Speaker 3: They're not going to bypass the first black sitting vice president,

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Speaker 3: first black woman vice president, to have a woman whose

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Speaker 3: only qualification is she married a former president. That's just

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Speaker 3: not how Hillary Clinton had to be a senator and

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Speaker 3: a Secretary of State before getting the nomination with the

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Speaker 3: Democratic Party. They just didn't give it to somebody because

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Speaker 3: they were married. You don't call the plumber's wife if

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Speaker 3: the plumber is out on another job. It's just they

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Speaker 3: don't know how to fix up, like it just doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Work like that.

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Speaker 1: Oh I wish, I wish, Brian, can you come back

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Speaker 1: for what you have? Like seven or four minutes. Clay

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Speaker 1: is fired up. Clay, Well, I want to talk about this,

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Speaker 1: but I also.

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Speaker 3: Come back because Clay is just wrong on us.

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Speaker 1: That's why we got to bring on. I love cycactly.

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Speaker 1: I'll come back as Clay is just wrong on this, which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is what my wife says on ninety

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Speaker 1: eight percent of issues that we discussed in the house

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Speaker 1: as well.