1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,320 Speaker 1: The guys from Ping. They've kind of showed me how 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: much the equipment matters. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot. 4 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: I kind of want we're gonna be able to tell 5 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: some fun stories about what goes on here to help 6 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,600 Speaker 1: golfers play better golf. 7 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Ping Proven Grounds Podcast. 8 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 3: I'm Shane Bacon. I'd say, joined as always by Marty Jertsen. 9 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: But Marty, occasionally you're you're popping out on your own, 10 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 3: you're hosting pods, you're getting yourself dialed, I mean added 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 3: to the resume. 12 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Baby. 13 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know I saw yours with Bubba the Masters. 14 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: You know I didn't get the invite, so Shane, I 15 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: just had to reciprocate a little bit. 16 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 3: It was fun, man, I mean chatting with those guys. 17 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 3: Masters week is always so crazy. Been a wild year, 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 3: I think in the golf world. Something exciting that Ping 19 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 3: has rolling out. I kind of the middle of this summer, 20 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 3: which is exciting for us as I two forty and 21 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna dive into kind of some of the new 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: irons for Ping. And you know, I want to start here, Marty, 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 3: because I think something we've preached a lot on this 24 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: podcast is mixed bag, and I think that's something that 25 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: you have been a proponent of really long before it 26 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: became popular. And I feel like when like the Eye 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Irons pop, it's just such an exciting time for any 28 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 3: player because it adds like another layer of mixing up 29 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 3: the golf bag. And so I feel like you're a 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 3: perfect person to talk about this because you're somebody that's 31 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: been a big fan of this for so many years. 32 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, the mixed bag is it's like the I don't know, 33 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: it's it's been like a secret menu item or something like. 34 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: I think the very detailed techie players know how to 35 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: do They know how to do it right. There wasn't 36 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: great tools out there to help figure it out, you know, 37 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a lot of like guessing and checking on loft's lengths, 38 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: how they're gonna fly, how are they gonna spin? Well, Shane, 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: I think it was fun about two forty and even 40 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: our brand new IDI that's in our product suite allows 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: the everyday person to build the mix bag just like 42 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: our tour players. One of the funnest examples of this 43 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: for me right now is Neil Shipley. He plays our 44 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: I two thirty probably be moving to our I two 45 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 1: forty here pretty soon like three iron. Then he plays 46 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: a blueprint S I think four four iron blueprint S 47 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: four four through six. Then he goes to blueprint T 48 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: like seven through nine. Then he plays our S one 49 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: fifty nine forty six degree, so like he's playing four 50 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: different sets basically in three through pitching wedge. I absolutely 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: love that. 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 3: He's like the perfect brand ambassador. Right, He's like, you 53 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 3: want to see any of these irons, I've got them 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: all through the bag. I mean, you know you. 55 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: You mentioned the secret menu. 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: It's like like this is the animal style of golf, 57 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 3: like the fact that you can throw in different things. 58 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: When did when do you feel like seeing the iron 59 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 3: sets became popular on tour? When did that kind of 60 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: start to pop? Was there an iteration of eye irons 61 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,839 Speaker 3: that you felt like you started to see players go 62 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 3: like an eye iron with the long irons and maybe 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 3: like an S fifty nine or something in the lower irons. 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I do I do think that. I 65 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: Mean traditionally, Shane, like until like the last two three 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: four years, it's been just like the one club in 67 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: the bag, like okay, you'll play you know, you'll play 68 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: our blades all the way until you're three iron and 69 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: maybe you got an EYE two hundred three iron in 70 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: the bag or whatever, or four iron something like that. 71 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 1: But now you're seeing the Neil Shipley configurations and things 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: of that nature. I mean, it's really now that we 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: have you know, our I five hundred series iron like 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: our I five thirty that has some distance. Maybe folks 75 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: are playing that in your in your three iron driving 76 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: iron type of club. And then now that we have 77 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: our I two forty blueprint s blueprint te all with 78 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: the same losts in length configuration and they do different 79 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: things from a distance standpoint. That's really where we've made 80 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: it sooner convenient, both for tour and now using our 81 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: copilot gapping opp tools like your everyday golfer can get 82 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: these absolutely dialed and make them work seamlessly right out 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: of the gate. 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm already. 85 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 3: I mean I've been an IT two thirty, you know, 86 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 3: four iron sometimes now with the three iron in the 87 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 3: bag depending on the golf course, and maybe seven would 88 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 3: maybe the three iron. It's something that I've really been 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: a big fan of. You know what, I don't know 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: about you. The older I get, the uh, the less excited. 91 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: I am to hit a long iron, and so any 92 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 3: of the help I can get in that department, YEP, 93 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 3: is great. I love kind of going from the blueprint 94 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 3: S five iron into the I two thirty, And so 95 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 3: now we go to I two forty. What's the big 96 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: difference in two forty versus the success of two thirty 97 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 3: because I feel like two thirty has been a great 98 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 3: iron for so many people. 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you hit the nail on the head. 100 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: It's like where is it the most important? Like why 101 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: are you playing the two thirty? You know, why have 102 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: you played the two thirty long irons? Because more forgiving, 103 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: launches a little bit higher, gives a little more ball speed. 104 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: That's where you a little bit of help in all 105 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: those areas. So that's where we put the focus in 106 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: the two forty is how can we elevate the inertia 107 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: of the long iron specifically, so the three iron through 108 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: seven iron, the inertia is way higher. It's like five 109 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: six percent higher in the three four iron, then it 110 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: goes to you know, three four percent higher in the six, five, six, 111 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: seven iron. So we really elevated the inertia in the 112 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: long irons, and we did that Shane through if you 113 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: kind of look at the iron the cavity view. We 114 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: gave it a little bit more of this like cavity 115 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: look to it. So and at the same time that 116 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: the badge that we use in the back, which helps 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: with feel and vibration, damping and things of that nature 118 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: with which golfers expect, and urine four in our In 119 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: our I two forty iron, we made it substantially lighter, 120 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: so it's like eight grams lighter, and we really use 121 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: that to save weight from the middle of the club 122 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: specifically in those long irons, distributed the weight low to 123 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 1: lower the CG and we have more mass in the 124 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: heel weight, the tip weight, and the toe weight to 125 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: boost the inertia. So you're gonna see higher launch angle, 126 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: little bit more ball speed in substantially more forgiveness, which 127 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: I think is why players like me and you use 128 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: it and transition to these in the long irons. In 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: the long iron specifically. 130 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: You know, I find it so interesting in terms of 131 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 3: transitioning because you know, the irons, as we said, I 132 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: two thirty has been a big success, and I think 133 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:30,799 Speaker 3: so many people have been a big fan of that iron. 134 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,120 Speaker 2: I have definitely been a big fan of those for 135 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 2: a number of years. 136 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 3: When it comes to drivers, you know, when you go 137 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: into a new driver category at paying, I'm assuming forgiveness, distance, 138 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: Things like that pop up, and what are we going 139 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: to do now to improve our driver from one iteration 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 3: to the next. What's the real what's like number one 141 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: on the chalkboard When it comes to irons, I mean, 142 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: is at height? 143 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 2: Is it distance? Is it forgiveness? 144 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 3: Like, what's the number one thing you guys, the smart 145 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: guys in the backs are thinking about when you're diving 146 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 3: into the new iteration of ion? 147 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: Oh, such a great, such a great question, Shane. It's 148 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: it's dependent on which iron we're designing, right. So like 149 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: let's say our tour irons. You know, when I say 150 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: tour irons, I consider the irons where the player brings 151 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: the speed and this is blueprint ask blueprint T And 152 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: this iron we're talking about today, which is I two forty, 153 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: that's where generally speaking, the players bringing the speed to 154 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: the table and we don't necessarily need to have the 155 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: club have a lot of face flexing or some exotic 156 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: things to get it to go further. Those irons we 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: approach differently. The importance level of different of what we're 158 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: trying to optimize for maximize or minimize is different for 159 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: that category of player. So a big thing we try 160 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to do in these tour irons is optimize uh, the 161 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 1: launch and spin, the land angle. Then things like turf interaction, 162 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: feel things of that nature are on that priority list. 163 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: But one big piece Shane that we studied quite a bit, 164 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: and it's one of the big things when you go 165 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: first set down the I two forty is the grooves 166 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: are substantially different. So with I two thirty we use 167 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: this groove we called the Micromax groove, so they had 168 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: they were very tightly spaced, and we did a lot 169 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: of research on this topic. This is actually a very 170 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: fun thing to talk about where we're taking very nuanced, 171 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: detailed feedback from tour and plugging it right into our 172 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: product quickly. Is that with that groove that we used 173 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: on the two thirty Micromax very tightly spaced, we sacrificed 174 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: or gave up a little bit of spin, like not 175 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: a lot. We're talking like one hundred and fifty RPMs 176 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood on dry good condition lies. So 177 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: if your ball's in the fairway or you're heating off 178 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: a tee, the iron spun about one hundred to one 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty RPMs less. But what we gain by 180 00:08:55,320 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: having that groove is a reduction in flyers, right. And 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: so but after we kind of launched that iron, we 182 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: had it on tour. The players are so good both 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: PGA and this iron is super popular on the LPGA tour. 184 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: So both PJ and LPGA tour players were giving us 185 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: this feedback that they wanted to spin a little bit 186 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: more when they have those perfect lies because that's when 187 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: they need to do their scoring. That's the green light zone. 188 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: Right. 189 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: So they're like, hey, guys, I know I'm getting less 190 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: flyers out of the rough. They're realizing it, but give 191 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: me more spin when I'm ready to score, which is 192 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: shots off the te I know, Shane, we've talked about 193 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 1: that quite a bit. As you actually hit your irons 194 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: off the te your mid irons about a third of 195 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: the time. So put more priority on having the ball 196 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: spin a little bit more off a tee off of 197 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: good lies, and this was a we actually made some 198 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: two thirty irons with this. We call it the tour groove, 199 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: the groove that's on the two forty now, and we've 200 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: had a lot of PGA like Victor Perez and tons 201 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: of lp J. Tour players use this new groove that's 202 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: on the two forty with their two thirties because we 203 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: validated this concept a game a little bit more spin 204 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 1: when they're ready to score. So really that premium on spin, 205 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: which which reduced their you know, increase their disease control, 206 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: improves their peak height stopping power when there ready to score. 207 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 3: Marty, I don't want you to necessarily name names, but 208 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 3: are there certain tour players that you guys maybe go 209 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 3: to more often than others, Maybe some that can just 210 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 3: explain it better, like what they're looking for what makes sense, 211 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: because I mean, not everybody's gonna sing the same way, right, 212 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 3: but I'm assuming there are certain tour players that the 213 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 3: moment you need feedback, you go, we got to go 214 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 3: to X. 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean I even remember thinking 216 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,119 Speaker 1: back when we were doing some of our are original 217 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: I iron designs. I mean little step back into history 218 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: here would be when we were working on like the 219 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Eye ten iron long time ago. It was Chris DeMarco. 220 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's when DeMarco was battling Tiger at the Masters, 221 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: and DeMarco was like our best Yeah, he was our 222 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: best iron player and he was like the quintessential I 223 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: three plus blade player. So we we we would fly 224 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: down and work with DeMarco because he was so nuanced 225 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: and so detailed. And yes, we do. We do have 226 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: that short short list of players, and I think what's 227 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: fun now is we have we have so many very technical, detailed, 228 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: nuanced players on the Ladies tour as well that we 229 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: we we get a lot of great feedback. Again because 230 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: this iron is so important, it's it's the I series. 231 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 1: Iron has always been kind of dominant on the LPGA 232 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,439 Speaker 1: tour with both our staffers and tons of non staff players, 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: and so we have a we have a short list 234 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: out there that's very fun to work with some of 235 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: the more detailed and nuanced UH ladies on the LPGA 236 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: Tour that give us some very insightful feedback on how 237 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: the Irons perform. 238 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 2: I feel like you've. 239 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: Touched a little bit on this, but when you think 240 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 3: about I two, is you kind of fitted in the 241 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: category amongst the ping irons, who's the player that this fits? 242 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 2: When you think about I two forty. 243 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's you know, it's it's it's 244 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: an avid player and maybe that that you know, our 245 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: blueprints are just too small. They scare you a little 246 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: bit and you need some more help. But you're not 247 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: the player that wants to go to our I five 248 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: thirty like the I five thirties strong lofted that that's 249 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: that's an iron that's gonna help you. Maybe you're hit 250 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: it a little bit further that that iron is going 251 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 1: to give you some distance infusion. The lofts are a 252 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: little bit stronger, but we could retrospectum and power respect 253 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 1: them to kind of dial in launch and spin on those. 254 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 1: So you not necessarily looking for that distance infusion, but 255 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 1: you need a little bit more forgiveness. Maybe also you're 256 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: an avid player. When I say avid player, ten handicap 257 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: in below is good here, but certainly you're five six 258 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: seven handicaps and below I two thirties in the sweet spot. 259 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: If you have plenty of distance, plenty of speed, and 260 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: you're looking for this kind of mid size, high forgiveness iron, 261 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: uh that gives you the ability to control your ball 262 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: flight really well. So so you're your your you're a score. 263 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: You need to use your irons to score and control 264 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: your distance. Where then the I five thirty that's gonna 265 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: give you a little bit more distance infusion that it's 266 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: going to be for your maybe your avid player aging gracefully, 267 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: but you still want to hit eight iron from your 268 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: one sixty number, then take it, you know, and maybe 269 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: one maybe the the IE two forty would go one 270 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 1: fifty for you or one forty five. Go take a 271 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: look at the Uh, the I five thirty is gonna 272 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 1: be a great option. We can dial in the loss 273 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But avid player, the other 274 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: the other aviad avenue for the I two forty over, 275 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: maybe say blueprint chain is the sole design right there. 276 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 1: The soul's a little bit wider, it's got a little 277 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: more rounded lead edge. So if you are a little 278 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: bit steeper on your angle of attack or playing like 279 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: a wide variety of conditions, or maybe our blueprints with 280 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: the smaller blade in the little sharper lead edge get 281 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: into the ground a little bit too much for you. 282 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: There's another avenue to think about this iron. Maybe it's 283 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: beyond just the forgiveness per se, and it's more about 284 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: fitting the iron for your turf interaction, your angle of 285 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: attack and giving you a little bit more wiggle room 286 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: there in how that's going to interact with the turf. 287 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, Marty, I find it interesting that Victor's an I 288 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: series guy. You know, when you think about great Iron 289 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 3: players and you think about, you know, some of the 290 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: you were talking about DeMarco, I mean kind of modern 291 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 3: day if you will. Amongst the ping staff is Hoblines 292 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 3: and the way he kind of delivers the club, I mean, 293 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: the consistency of delivery. I think it's my favorite on tour, 294 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 3: you know, just basically from let's say, from what would 295 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 3: it be for righty not nine o'clock through? 296 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: Yes, it's just crazy as consistency. 297 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 3: And you think about an Iron player like that, you 298 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 3: might not immediately go to like an I series Iron, 299 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 3: But is that is Hoblin mostly I through the bag. 300 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's played our I series Iron for a 301 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: long time. He's hit our blueprints. And I have a 302 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: little bit of a hypothesis on this shamee that that 303 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: I'll talk about here with with Hobblin. 304 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: And and. 305 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: I'll do a little analogy to putters. You know, we've 306 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: talked a lot about putters where if you play more 307 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: toe down putter, the face will be delivered more open, 308 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: and you'll start the ball more to the right for 309 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: the right handed golfer, so it's a great way to 310 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: eliminate a left miss. So if very putter fitting one 311 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: on one, if you pull your putts, go to more 312 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: toe down putter, and you'll you'll hit your start lines 313 00:15:39,880 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: better or you'll deliver the face more open. So when 314 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at irons, a simpler behavior and mechanism of 315 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: action is at play here. And I think that's really 316 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: why Hovelin likes our I series irons is because the 317 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 1: blade length is longer. So if you play a longer 318 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: blade length iron, so the cig is just further from 319 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: the shaft, even at the same line gole, same shaft, 320 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: everything else, the face will be more delivered, more open 321 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: to the path. And so when he's tried our blueprint irons, 322 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: obviously it's like, obviously, he's a good enough ball striker 323 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: from an impact dispersion standpoint to play our blueprints. So 324 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, why does he always like our I 325 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: series irons? The blade lengths a little bit longer and 326 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: that matches up to his expected start lines in his 327 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: delivered face angle that he likes to see. So it's 328 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: another it's another factor. 329 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: You know. 330 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: I've always had friends say, hey, these these bigger long irons. 331 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: I can fade the long irons easier. And the reason 332 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: why is is not to do with the offset and 333 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: things of that nature. It's more that the blade length 334 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: is longer, the sieg's further away from the shaft, and 335 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: for Victor, it's a better matchup of his delivered face 336 00:16:56,760 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: angle that he likes to sense, see and feel that 337 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: he naturally does because he has the face. Obviously, his 338 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 1: wrist angles are are such that his risk conditions are 339 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:11,239 Speaker 1: such that the face is staying very square relative to 340 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: the to the target longer than most like he looks literally, 341 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: you've probably seen some videos of his swing that looks 342 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: like it mirrors kind of ping man as it's done 343 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: through impact. 344 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Right, it's crazy. 345 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: I mean, are you pretty good about maybe you have 346 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 3: a new staffer, maybe a college kid's turning pro, new 347 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: product comes out. Are you pretty good about nailing what 348 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 3: you think they'll land in? Or are you at times 349 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 3: as surprised as maybe I am when I see Victors 350 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 3: being an I Series guy. 351 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's not. We don't always nail it, 352 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's the beauty of custom fitting. 353 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: And I think that's why everyone still needs to be 354 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: custom fit in the in we're the custom fitter is 355 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: not going to be replaced by AI or some algorithm 356 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: or something like. Fitting the human is very goodness. It's 357 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: very detailed, it's very nuance nervous, it's very detailed. It's 358 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: very nuanced. And so even with all the research we 359 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: do Shane, for example, on like shaft fitting, like we 360 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: got algorithms that are we've been working on for decades 361 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: and they are really really good. But even me, I 362 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: will still say, you have to go hit it, see 363 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: how you respond and iterate. Now, yes, we're getting better 364 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: at whittling it down to your two or three options 365 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 1: that will probably work for you, but I can't it's 366 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: still there. You can't take that aspect of what is 367 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: the behavior, what is the response of the player uh 368 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: to that particular attribute in the club design or shaft. 369 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: And so Victor is a great example of that. I 370 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: think you'd look at him and be like, hey, he's 371 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: a blueprint guy flushes it never misses the center of 372 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 1: the face. But what I think we're really doing the 373 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: victor is fitting him to the blade length to hit 374 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: his start lines. That's that's probably like the primary thing. 375 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: And so no, I think, going back to your question, 376 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: we don't always nail it, and that's what makes custom 377 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: fitting fun and still require I think it should be, 378 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, a good testimonial for folks to go out 379 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: there and and still engage in in a really good 380 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: custom fitting. Hopefully we're building some great tools to help 381 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: you get more dialed more than ever. 382 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 3: What about lofts on I two forty, anything different in 383 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: terms of loft or gapping with these guy irons versus 384 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: maybe two thirty or even blueprints our I two forty. 385 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: We kind of pride ourselves in it's being it's like 386 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: our best gaped iron. So along with the blueprints, so 387 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: we do we do very rigorous gap testing. And what 388 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,239 Speaker 1: does that mean, Shane? It means like we want, you know, 389 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: relatively even spacing throughout all clubs in the bag for 390 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: the target player, right and so, and even our tools 391 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,479 Speaker 1: and copilot there will help give you a recommendation, uh, 392 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,879 Speaker 1: for our gapping app Shane. Really cool. You can go 393 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: in and say, hey, I'm gonna play I two forty irons, 394 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 1: put in your seven iron balls, launching spin with your 395 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: fitter there, and the app might say, hey, you might 396 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: need to go to the IDI four iron and your 397 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: longest iron should be a five because it's kind of 398 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: looking at where your gaps start trailing off, so gapping 399 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: that the goal of gapping is to get even spacing 400 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: from all your clubs. And there's a lot of sets 401 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,880 Speaker 1: out there, even in this category of the I two 402 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: forty that don't deliver that as well as they should 403 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: and you don't feel the pain of it in the 404 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: fitting experience. Sadly. It's how the loft progressions and the 405 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: length progressions play through. So the lofts on the I 406 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:41,159 Speaker 1: two forty thirty three degree seven iron, which is plenty 407 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: of loft. It matches our blueprint as loft, so has 408 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: plenty of loft again because spin is your friend for 409 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: the player trying to control distance, and how we progress 410 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: them has delivered very even spacing. And then obviously, Shane, 411 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: we have power spec retrospec which are great fitting options. 412 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,199 Speaker 1: You know we do a lot of retrospec I five thirty, 413 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: so that's our iron is pretty the strong lofted and 414 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: we we need to get a little more launching spin 415 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,959 Speaker 1: for a lot of players in there. And then conversely 416 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:16,719 Speaker 1: we'll do way more power spec I two forty. And 417 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,160 Speaker 1: because it's thirty three degree seven iron, if you power 418 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: spec gets thirty one and a half gets you kind 419 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: of right in between the I five thirty and the 420 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: I two forty from a distant standpoint, gets you a 421 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: little bit more distance. And again, Shane, this iron has 422 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: an ample amount of bounce on it, plenty of soul wit, 423 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: so you can do it and not worry about the 424 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: club getting diggy on you. 425 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 3: In terms of launch, like when you kind of look 426 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: through a window of all the irons, where does the 427 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 3: I series specifically I two forty kind of fit is it? 428 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 3: You know, if you're launching let's say five hundred series, 429 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: the highest is two forty low blueprint? Is it similar 430 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 3: to blueprint? What does launch look like for these irons 431 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: For somebody that's thinking, maybe I'm thinking about an eye, 432 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 3: but I'm not. 433 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: One hundred percent sure. 434 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: I want it to go a little bit higher than 435 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: maybe my previous iteration of iron. 436 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So launch we designed so you got 437 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: blueprint T or two or iron will fly the lowest, 438 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: and then you have blueprint s flies the higher than that, 439 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: and then you have I two forty one window higher 440 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: than that. So it's again it's it's perfect from the 441 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: standpoint of if you're thinking about doing a blended set, 442 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: this is a great way to kind of think about it. 443 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: You got the T going the lowest, the S a 444 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: little bit higher, the two forty a little bit higher. 445 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: Then you get into our other category of irons like 446 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: that the I five thirty that's gonna fly, that's gonna 447 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: fly pretty high, really high relative to what the lofts are. 448 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: But it's kind of that's where you start mixing lofts 449 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: a little bit. But we do have some nice tools 450 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 1: again in co Pilot Pilot if you did want to 451 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: kind of blend a two forty iron with some of 452 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: other irons, you know, including I five thirty long irons. 453 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,919 Speaker 1: But Shane, what's really nice now is with the addition 454 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: of IDI is the IDI is designed to be your 455 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: long iron replacement that fits seamlessly from a length loft 456 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: gaping standpoint, trajectory, windows standpoint into your two forty. So 457 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: let's say you're let's say you want to play the 458 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: I two forty, you know, kind of full homogenous set, 459 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: maybe five through pitch. You can go to the id 460 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: I four iron and get that little elevation peak height 461 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: that's going to help transition into wherever you go beyond 462 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: that part of your back. 463 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems like long irons aren't going away. I 464 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 3: was a little bit fearful of this, I think when 465 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: the lofted wood started to pop. I mean, you and 466 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 3: I've spent time talking. I mean, I've had the seven 467 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 3: more of the bag pretty consistently for the last couple 468 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: of years. I've messed around with the nine wood, which 469 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 3: I really like at times, especially when I'm playing Northeast 470 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 3: golf with gnarly ruff and trying to chop it out. 471 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 3: You know, we saw that earlier this year at Oakmont, 472 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 3: where you know, guys were even leaning can. 473 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 2: You make mean eleven? 474 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: Yeah? 475 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 3: Right, I mean something crazy as. 476 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 2: Deep as that. 477 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: But it feels like the long irons aren't going away, 478 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 3: as is three iron offered in I two forty as well. 479 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, So we got the we all 480 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: the way down to the three iron, and uh, you 481 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: know that that is not a lot of high not 482 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: a lot of folks will be fit into that club 483 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: or use that club. I think that's where you go 484 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: into the hybrids, the ferry woods, the uh, the the 485 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: id I is a great solution for that transition point. 486 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: But certainly, Yeah, Shane, I'm a fan of you know, 487 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,879 Speaker 1: if you're a player kind of in our category, or 488 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: you maybe you're you're traveling around to play some tournaments 489 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,439 Speaker 1: or some golf with your buddies. I love having a 490 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: couple of clubs at that top end of the bag. 491 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: So you got like, you know, for me, it's like 492 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: I got the id I three iron, but if I 493 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: go to high elevation or firm golf course, something with 494 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: no wind, I'm throwing the five wood or the four 495 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: wood in there, right, So you got a couple options. 496 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: I think that's a great Now we have so many 497 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: options right in there. I think for a traveling golfer, 498 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,360 Speaker 1: a tournament golfer, you should have a couple different options 499 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 1: in that part of the bag, depend on the conditions, 500 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 1: the win traveling things of that nature. 501 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 502 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: You know what's interesting is that part of the bag 503 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 3: seems to be getting a ton of attention now. You know, 504 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 3: you think about i'd say eight nine, ten years ago, 505 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 3: it seemed like there was a lot of focus on 506 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,919 Speaker 3: what's the wedge set up in your bag? You know, 507 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 3: it was are you a four wedge guy? I think 508 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 3: there were people with five wedges at the time. 509 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 2: They would play like that. 510 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 3: It feels like we're focusing a lot of that attention 511 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: around that longer iron, three iron, four iron, something in 512 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 3: that category and making sure that there's multiple options for 513 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 3: players depending on where they play, how far they hit it. 514 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 3: Obviously they're handicapping skill set, but I love the fact 515 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 3: that that part of the bag isn't isn't isn't forgotten 516 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 3: at this point. 517 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just from our standpoint of paying, I mean, 518 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: we have like four different options in there. You can 519 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: play your long iron, you can play an idi, you 520 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: can play a hybrid, you can play a high lofted 521 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: fairway would so I mean, but with these options comes 522 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,199 Speaker 1: the challenge of like fitting them properly. And that's where 523 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we're very excited about all those tools in 524 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: the Gaping app, which helps helps narrow that down and 525 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: can make those recommendations based on you know, your your 526 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: typical launch conditions because it's so individual to the player. 527 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 1: So you got the player launch conditions, and then you 528 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 1: have their course conditions, their playing conditions, their preferences, course designed. 529 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Shane, I travel around, you did two, and 530 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: you know you could be in the same geographic location. 531 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: One golf course has bunkers and elevated greens in front 532 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: of in front of it, and if you play all 533 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: your golf there, that's a totally different fitting optimization. Then 534 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: some more open where you can run it up and 535 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: not elevated greens. So, uh, there's so much to it. 536 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: I love having all these options and uh, you know, 537 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: hopefully trying to make it easier for the golfer to 538 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: figure out which one's right for them. 539 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 3: Did you see some of the tour players lean into 540 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: I two forty pretty quickly? 541 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, uh, you know Turle Hatton put the 542 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: A couple he's a he's he's he's been kind of 543 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: a blended set player for us. So he put long 544 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: irons into play right out of the gate. Tristan Lawrence 545 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,159 Speaker 1: a couple of long irons and play right out of 546 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: the gate. 547 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 3: A couple of guys that played well at Oakma play well. 548 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 3: You know, a couple couple guys that played well at 549 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 3: a tough golf yep Uh. 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 1: Lauren Coughlin, friend of the pod Uh, she put them 551 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,400 Speaker 1: in immediately, absolutely loves off the Harmunos on the LPGA 552 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: Tour Again, Shane, I just want to emphasize how important 553 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: this iron has been on the LPGA Tour, So I'm 554 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: super excited to see, uh kind of what our numbers 555 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: are and how they shake out, both with our PGA 556 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: Tour players, live players and and and LPG. 557 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 3: Marty, what's it like for the design team when an 558 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: iron like this is introduced, you go take it to 559 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 3: the best players in the world and they immediately buy in. Like, 560 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 3: what is that like in the background for you guys, 561 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 3: when you know, you guys understand the science behind it 562 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 3: and the hard work to win into it, but you 563 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 3: obviously would like to see incredible player, top twenty player 564 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,360 Speaker 3: in the world buy into it immediately. When they buy 565 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 3: into it immediately, what's that like in the background for 566 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 3: you guys? 567 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 2: Opinion? 568 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: It's very gratifying, Shane, because behind every product that comes out, 569 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: the designer who has led that product has been, you know, 570 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:25,919 Speaker 1: pouring their entire professional effort, blood, sweat and tears into 571 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: that for a couple of years. I mean it's a 572 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: couple of years of full time work, and so every little, 573 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: every little piece of nuance and detail that went into 574 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: it is very very rewarding. You know, you're always kind 575 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: of nervous. You're always nervous when the iron, you know, 576 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: when an iron or product goes out to tour, because 577 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: you've done everything you could and it's time to let 578 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: the bird out into the wild and see if it flies. 579 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: And so it is very very gratifying. So we love 580 00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: keeping our pulse. Our tour department sends a very detailed 581 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: report every single week of what happens on tour and 582 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: you better believe that. You know, come Wednesday night when 583 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: that report goes out before the tournament, that we're all 584 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: glued to the email, getting ready to getting ready to 585 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: hear the feedback and then make sure it's in play 586 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: there when the Daryl survey comes out on Thursday. 587 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 3: What about shaft options, We haven't really talked about shaft 588 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: options in terms of I two forty anything different in 589 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 3: that department. 590 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, we have a great We have a 591 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: ton of no up charge fitting options. I mean we've 592 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: we've been doing that with our oron families for a 593 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: number of years now. It's been absolutely fantastic. Our default 594 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: stock option is the Modus one fifteen, and we picked 595 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: that shame because it's kind of the sweet spot right 596 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: for this type of player. So it's it's it's not 597 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: up in the one twenty one thirty weight category. The 598 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Modus one fifteen. The Modus family has been super popular. 599 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: Nipon does a fantastic job. From a toleranting standpoint, I'm 600 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: in their quality in their manufacturing has been absolutely superb. 601 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: But we want to we that would be a great 602 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: option is the stock option in this in this iron 603 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: because it fits kind of the sweet spot target of 604 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: the I two forty player. But tons of great no 605 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: up charge options, including our AWT three point zero, which 606 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of, which is lighter weight and 607 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: the long irons gets heavier into the short irons, but 608 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: you got you got dynamic gold in there. A lot 609 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: of great, great fitting options. When it comes to iron shafts, 610 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 1: it's it's it's all about the custom fitting. So you 611 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: want to match the weight of the iron to help 612 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: you manage and control that low point. If the iron 613 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: shafts get too light, you might not control your low point. 614 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: That well, even though, yeah, your good shots might launch 615 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: a little bit higher. So that's a tip for folks 616 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: out there when you go into your fitting environment, be 617 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: very mindful not only the launch and spin when you're 618 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: trying different iron shafts. And we have this great AFS 619 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: three D fitting head where you can plug in different 620 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 1: iron shafts in and hit them chain, but be mindful 621 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 1: of the term interaction and how many times you maybe 622 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: hit a little fat hill a little bit thin. You 623 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: want to both optimize the launch and spin, so keep 624 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: your eye in the numbers, but also pay attention to 625 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: your control of that low point, like which iron shaft's 626 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: shaft helps you bottom out the most consistently. So those 627 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 1: are the two pieces in iron shaft fitting that you 628 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: kind of want to be aware of. 629 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: All right, Marty, I think the thing I paid the 630 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 3: most attention to, and I think you mentioned you've touched 631 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 3: on this a little bit earlier, but sound. I mean, 632 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: I'm a big sound guy with the golf club. You 633 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 3: and I've talked a lot about practicing without AirPods on, 634 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 3: I mean, so you can kind of get that feel. 635 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: It was funny I played a little nine hole round 636 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 3: alone yesterday and I hit a six iron out of 637 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 3: a fairway bunker and I had headphones in and it 638 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 3: kind of I was kind of watch it in the air, 639 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 3: and I'm like, I think I got all of it, 640 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 3: but I didn't hear it. And then I see it 641 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 3: roll up to like ten feet. I was like, there 642 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 3: was the headphones. How is sound in terms of I 643 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 3: two maybe? How different is the sound versus I two thirty? 644 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, very big deal. It's gonna be be even just 645 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of that, you know, a little more 646 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: kind of quieter, slightly more muted. And the way that 647 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: we accomplished that, Shane was re engineered the activated elastomer. 648 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: So right underneath the badge, if you kind of look 649 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: down in the cavity of the iron, there's a big 650 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: kind of pocket in there, and we put a very 651 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: high volume amount of elastomer material that's very light light 652 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: in terms of the density, so it saves a ton 653 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: of weight. Is this is what allows us to put 654 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: weight to the heel and toe kind of like a barbell. 655 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 1: But the benefit is not only the weighting. That elastomer. 656 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: When the ball impacts the face gets what we call activated, 657 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: so it actually gets kind of squished just like layers 658 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: on the golf ball. Just like you have different layers 659 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: on the golf ball, we have different layers in the 660 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 1: cross section of the I two forty iron. So when 661 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: you start hit the eye iron with some speed, the 662 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: face flexes a little bit and it starts putting those 663 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: vibrations or that energy into the elastomer, and the elastomer 664 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: gives some what's called Visco elastic damping. So provide some damping, 665 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: which that gets the volume of the sound down a 666 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: little bit into that zone that the player is kind 667 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: of yearning for and expecting from this type iron. Again, Shane, 668 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: I think a big part of what we're trying to do, 669 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: you know, it'd be very you know, I think all 670 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: of us in golf have hit a product that it 671 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: looks like it should sound one way. Then you hit 672 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: it and it doesn't, and you're like, wait a minute, 673 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: my brain's confused. Things aren't matching up. Maybe even if 674 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 1: you like the sound, maybe it just doesn't match what 675 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm expected. And so that's really what we're trying to engineer. 676 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: We have some great tools. I mean, we talked about 677 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the four to forty driver with the carbon fly wrap 678 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: and all these tools we have now that are getting 679 00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: better better optimizing the acoustics. So yeah, I think folks 680 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: go out and hit it with AFS three d uh 681 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 1: and uh and test it for yourself. But so far, 682 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: the feedback from from our tour players, better players, player 683 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: testing here is the acoustics of this iron absolutely fantastic 684 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: and more importantly match what you expect from this iron. 685 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: Marty. 686 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 3: The biggest question as we wrap up on I two 687 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: forty is how many I two forties are in Marty 688 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 3: Jertsen's golf bag. 689 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 2: What's what's the number I got? What's the number? Zero zero? 690 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: I go, I'm Blueprint, I'm blueprint, ass, I'm Blueprint, I'm 691 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: three iron player. Right now, I got the ID I 692 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: four iron, and then I go to blueprint S five 693 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:45,720 Speaker 1: through nine. Then I I go to Blueprint T pitching, Wedge, 694 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: Blueprint T pitching, wedge, custom fitting. 695 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: You know it's so good, It's so good, h Marty. 696 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 3: I I'm excited about this. I think the I two forties, 697 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 3: as I said, I two thirty was was one of 698 00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 3: my favorite irons. 699 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 2: And again kind of that mixed bag set has been 700 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 2: great for me. 701 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: As I mentioned, I've kind of pulled out the I 702 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: two thirty three iron really like the last probably two 703 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 3: or three months, and it's been a savior for me 704 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 3: because depending on the golf course. Played a couple of 705 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 3: courses on the West Coast and it was firm. You know, 706 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 3: you get that thing running and it's a little bit 707 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 3: a different situation than hit that seven would for me. 708 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 3: And then I come back home and the seven wood 709 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,319 Speaker 3: goes right back into play because it's been really wet 710 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 3: in the Northeast, and you know, the rough's kind of 711 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 3: been gnarly, and if you miss a fair way, especially 712 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,040 Speaker 3: on a par five, you can maybe still give it 713 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 3: a rip into that par five. So as we wrap 714 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 3: anything else on I two forty we didn't hit on 715 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 3: before I start to convince you offline to put one 716 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 3: in your back. 717 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no. I love the I two ford aerons. 718 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: It's just such an important iron for us. Launches high, 719 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: more forgiveness in the long irons, plenty of spin. That 720 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: is so important. Man. Maybe maybe you're a better player 721 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 1: out there, Shane that's dabbled with one of these other 722 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 1: low spin irons and you're struggling with your distance control. 723 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: You haven't been able to hit your numbers like you 724 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: used to. The I two forty is gonna be the 725 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: club for you. It allows you to hit your numbers 726 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: with a lot of precision. All the boost we have 727 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: in the in the in the inertia and the long 728 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: iron specifically easy to get the golf ball in the 729 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: air uh and then the grooves like getting more spin 730 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: uh and and tighter dispersion and in all conditions. Absolutely fantastic. 731 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: A lot of a lot of great shaft options. 732 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: Good enough for else, good enough for Tyroll, good enough 733 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 3: for Victor, good enough for everybody out there listening. Always appreciated, Marty. 734 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 3: This is the Ping Proving Grounds Podcast.