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Speaker 4: Good morning, swimmerl then, welcome to the Now Dumps podcast
Speaker 4: on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, August thirty. First m J.
Speaker 1: Skeets and joining us here as always, Tes.
Speaker 5: Mellis, Hey everybody.
Speaker 4: Hey Testy, we got the Bearded one, Trey Kirby, Hey, hey,
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Speaker 1: Making the magic happen.
Speaker 4: JD. Hello, there he is, and here we are. Thanks
Speaker 4: for joining us. We're going to recap all of yesterday's games.
Speaker 4: But first it's with a heavy heart that I report
Speaker 4: we've lost another basketball icon. Legendary Georgetown coach John Thompson Junior,
Speaker 4: known simply as Big John throughout college hoops, has died
Speaker 4: at age seventy eight. He led George down to the
Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four national championship. He was inducted into the
Speaker 4: Basketball Hall of Fame in ninety nine and famously coached
Speaker 4: future Hall of famers Patrick Ewing and Alonzo Morning and
Speaker 4: to Kene Matumbo and Alan Iverson, and I see a
Speaker 4: rockin the Georgetown Hoya jersey here this morning, Tray.
Speaker 2: That's right, John Thompson and Alan Iverson made a lot
Speaker 2: of fans in the nineties. I got this when I
Speaker 2: was in eighth grade and somehow it still fits me.
Speaker 1: That's just how we wore things back in the day.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, that's sad to see another loss in
Speaker 2: the basketball family. The guy was a legend in the
Speaker 2: college game, a legend off the court, and honestly, it's
Speaker 2: not often you see a lot of coaches who are
Speaker 2: looking their big men eye to eye, so stand out
Speaker 2: in that way as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Big John, for sure, our condolences to the entire
Speaker 4: Thompson family. Twenty twenty continues to be a little rough,
Speaker 4: but we have some fun games to break down, except
Speaker 4: for that Raptors one. Maybe we'll just skip over that
Speaker 4: one today. I'm not sure we'll get to that later.
Speaker 4: Let's start though, with Jamal Murray out dueling Donovan Mitchell,
Speaker 4: setting up the first game seven from the bubble.
Speaker 1: Take away Saza, we.
Speaker 2: Got to Gaby good seven kid seven.
Speaker 4: Yes, nothing easy, Well maybe it is easy for Jamal
Speaker 4: Murray task. This is crazy what this kid is doing
Speaker 4: right now, and Mitchell for that matter. So here we go.
Speaker 4: We said it right from the beginning, this series is
Speaker 4: going seven. You can lock that in. We got there
Speaker 4: a weird way. But what you think of this game
Speaker 4: and Murray's performance and so.
Speaker 5: On, task Well, I didn't think it was going seven.
Speaker 5: I didn't think the Jazz could score enough. I thought
Speaker 5: the Nuggets were winning this thing in five games. And
Speaker 5: it's weird that it's sort of come all the way
Speaker 5: around that the Utah Jazz had their offense going and
Speaker 5: now Jamal Murray fifty forty two and fifty in his
Speaker 5: last three games. That's unheard of in playoff basketball. And
Speaker 5: you said it might be a little too easy for
Speaker 5: Jamal Murray. I think that's a bit of the problem here,
Speaker 5: is that it is a little bit too easy, and
Speaker 5: that I think one of the shortcomings of Jazz head
Speaker 5: coach Quinn Snyder is that he plays a lot of
Speaker 5: one on one ball. And you saw last year Superstars
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, James Harden up against him, and he
Speaker 5: was playing behind James Harden. He wasn't really doubling him
Speaker 5: to get it out of his hands. He was trying
Speaker 5: a bunch of that kind of thing. But Jamal Murray,
Speaker 5: I think you got a double pretty much from the
Speaker 5: get go. This wasn't a thirty nine points in the
Speaker 5: second half after a slow first half. This was a
Speaker 5: pretty equal first half to second half performance. So I
Speaker 5: think it would be smarter to let Tory Craig, Paul
Speaker 5: millsap and who's the third start, and Jeremy Grant, Let's
Speaker 5: see if he can do that again. Let those three
Speaker 5: guys while you cover Jamal Murray and Nikola Jokic and
Speaker 5: get the ball out of Jamal Murray's hens. Isn't that
Speaker 5: an option? And in in a way, your your offense
Speaker 5: is going to score enough. I think if you're the
Speaker 5: Utah Jess because Denver doesn't usually play great defense, and
Speaker 5: you still have Donovan Mitchell, so even if you get
Speaker 5: down a little bit, if things don't work out, you
Speaker 5: can still get back in the game. But I think
Speaker 5: you just got to show him more because he is
Speaker 5: scorching walking into jumpers. He is absolutely feeling it a
Speaker 5: front to back performance. The postgame interview, which was incredibly moving,
Speaker 5: shows how the players are and totally totally behind this movement,
Speaker 5: how much he has been moved, even as a Canadian
Speaker 5: kid growing up watching probably stars like Iverson in Georgetown,
Speaker 5: even Georgetown affecting me in Canada with Jamal Murray is
Speaker 5: a good Canadian boy. He realizes there's these these are
Speaker 5: the racial device that going on in both countries. But
Speaker 5: he is just locked in. Unlock him, get him out
Speaker 5: of his his flow right now. You got to get
Speaker 5: him out of his flow. If you're Quinn Snyder, yeah.
Speaker 4: I saw I think it was Pablo Torre tweet. Jamal
Speaker 4: Murray is playing basketball right now like he's owned a
Speaker 4: video game for a month before everyone else and is
Speaker 4: now just destroying people with combos they don't even know
Speaker 4: how to do yet. That's a great way to put it,
Speaker 4: because yeah, it's it's just one on one. He's like,
Speaker 4: I'll cook, I'll get my step back. Three, I've got
Speaker 4: to handle the taken to the rim. And it's pretty special. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the fifty, the forty two, the fifty. But on high
Speaker 4: efficiency too, Lee, this is the wild part. This is
Speaker 4: not fifty shots. These are you know, these are like,
Speaker 4: you know, twenty five to thirty shots, high high efficiency
Speaker 4: and with all the three pointers, he's just in a
Speaker 4: zone right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and talking about taking the ball out of his hands.
Speaker 3: Obviously that would be a smart strategy from the Utah Jazz,
Speaker 3: but the way that he moves around. He often just
Speaker 3: sort of gives up the ball, then gets it back
Speaker 3: straight away and then goes to his shot. So it's
Speaker 3: not quite as easily done as it is said because
Speaker 3: he's so active on that end. But he is just
Speaker 3: feeling so outrageously confident right now. I tweeted one of
Speaker 3: his threes he hit last night. There was a three
Speaker 3: on one for the nugget and he, you know, in
Speaker 3: that sense, usually coaches want you to go in and
Speaker 3: just sort of pass the ball around and get the
Speaker 3: easy shot. He just pulled up and knocked down the
Speaker 3: three without even hesitating at all. And that just shows
Speaker 3: how confident he is right now, because if he misses that,
Speaker 3: I mean, they probably still going to win the game.
Speaker 3: But you can understand if the coach was like, no,
Speaker 3: you've got to, you know, make the basket, but get
Speaker 3: the sure thing. But instead he just hits that and
Speaker 3: it's just so incredibly fun to watch. But then on
Speaker 3: the other end, we're getting the same thing virtually from
Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell, which is just incredible. He hit nine threes
Speaker 3: as well yesterday and he was just as good. It's
Speaker 3: just that the Nuggets got the win but also I
Speaker 3: think what's really important here is obviously Matt Murray's fantastic,
Speaker 3: but the Nuggets are just competing with an effort and
Speaker 3: an energy they didn't have there for a couple of games.
Speaker 3: Jokich had twenty two points, but he's trying harder. And
Speaker 3: Jeremy Grant, I think he's been very, very good for
Speaker 3: the Nuggets as well. So that sort of competitiveness that
Speaker 3: just went missing for a couple of games is back,
Speaker 3: and now Denver's got themselves in a position where they
Speaker 3: can win this series.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Nuggets are trying to become the twelfth team
Speaker 4: to rally from three to one deficit to win the series.
Speaker 4: I think that's almost being overlooked, right because of what
Speaker 4: just Murray's doing and just being a weird series, as.
Speaker 1: It is a very entertaining series.
Speaker 4: But you're rightly, I mean, Murray is the headline, and
Speaker 4: deservedly so, both what he did on the court and
Speaker 4: talking in the postgame interview. But I thought plumb lead
Speaker 4: the plumb dog millionaire grab and you know tichange the game. Yeah,
Speaker 4: he changed it a bit, Tory Craig making hustle plays.
Speaker 4: You said, Jeremy Grant, same thing, but then knocking down
Speaker 4: four threes. Yeah, you're right. Task if you're the Jazz,
Speaker 4: I think you say, hey, Jeremy Grant, can you do
Speaker 4: that again in a game seven? Anybody but Jamal Murray
Speaker 4: and then Gary Harris first action of the series. Now, look,
Speaker 4: he didn't do a ton comes back from the right
Speaker 4: hit muscle strain, but four points minutes out there obviously
Speaker 4: a capable defender, and so that helped the Nuggets out.
Speaker 5: I thought he slowed down to Jordan Clarkson a bit.
Speaker 5: That's his assignment. Come off the bench and just lock
Speaker 5: down Jordan Clarkson, who's been really really big for them.
Speaker 1: Matt.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the defense, which is sort of non existent at
Speaker 5: the beginning of the series has come around. Michael Malone
Speaker 5: has found a lineup, starting Monte Morris there and dropping
Speaker 5: Michael Porter to the bench. Now getting Gary Harris back
Speaker 5: playing plumbe some minutes, they've got some defense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So so trade do you buy this? Can you
Speaker 4: just run a second guy at Jamal Murray or like
Speaker 4: it cannot even work right now with him because Lee's right,
Speaker 4: I mean, they do a lot of the you know,
Speaker 4: dribble handoff actually with Joki jump top and it's like
Speaker 4: sort of just keep giving it back to him until
Speaker 4: he sort of gets into his little groove finds enough space.
Speaker 4: I mean that one step back three he had on
Speaker 4: go bear in the car. Yeah, I mean that one
Speaker 4: was just mind boggling too. You're right about the fast
Speaker 4: break one. But what do you think, Tray. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: It honestly doesn't matter. We've seen this before. This is
Speaker 4: Steph Curry. He's playing exactly like Steph Curry. And when
Speaker 4: Steph Curry gets doubled, he gives the ball up, he
Speaker 4: runs around and somehow he gets it and somehow he's
Speaker 4: open for a three. I'm assuming that Murray will do
Speaker 4: the same, And then I'm not really surprised that we're
Speaker 4: seeing the Nuggets give this kind of effort because this
Speaker 4: is Jamal Murray's team.
Speaker 2: Now. I'm old enough to remember when this was Nikally
Speaker 2: Jokich's team, when he was their best player, but he's
Speaker 2: not right now. And when Jamal Murray is your best player,
Speaker 2: he brings a little bit more intensity, he brings a
Speaker 2: little bit more fire, and I think you're gonna to
Speaker 2: be at least getting the effort every single night. Whereas
Speaker 2: with Jokic, it's not a guarantee. You know, Murray can
Speaker 2: have a bad shooting night. He hasn't in three games,
Speaker 2: but he can have a bad shooting night. But at
Speaker 2: least he's still playing hard out there. At least you
Speaker 2: know you're getting the full effort from him, and I
Speaker 2: think it's made all the difference. This is the same
Speaker 2: thing that happened in the playoffs last year, right, Murray
Speaker 2: put the team on his back to get a game
Speaker 2: seven win yep, in the first round. He saved game
Speaker 2: one in this series as well. It's crazy to think
Speaker 2: that this could have very easily been a Utah Jazz sweep,
Speaker 2: and now we're talking about them blowing a three to
Speaker 2: one lead. Murray last night was incredible. When he's hitting
Speaker 2: the step back, when he's made the first couple of threes,
Speaker 2: you think he can make anything he throws up. It's
Speaker 2: exactly like a Canadian Steph Curry. The game is the
Speaker 2: same too, right, Like he's in and out, he's like
Speaker 2: pumping fakes, he's showing his hands and then suddenly it's
Speaker 2: a little scoop at the rim.
Speaker 4: He's in complete control right now. Yeah, because it's not
Speaker 4: just a shot. He has a pretty incredible handle, like
Speaker 4: Steph Curry, right, I mean he's really and it's pretty high.
Speaker 4: It's pretty high for a guard, right, Like you want
Speaker 4: to keep it at the waist, they tell you, but
Speaker 4: not Hurry and Murray. They're keeping up with their shoulders
Speaker 4: and maybe that helps. Maybe it's a little.
Speaker 2: Too enticing for people to think, Ooh, I can get
Speaker 2: a hand on that.
Speaker 1: You can't. You can get a three point in your
Speaker 1: face though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I saw the tweets going around last night,
Speaker 4: so I wanted to ask you, guys, you know what
Speaker 4: is the craziest first round series of recent memory. Now,
Speaker 4: the stakes are not that high, this is a first
Speaker 4: round series, but what Mitchell and Murray are doing night
Speaker 4: in and night out here this show We're getting this
Speaker 4: what feels like at.
Speaker 1: Times like one on one battle. Is there another series?
Speaker 4: I know Zach Lowe was throwing out the two thousand
Speaker 4: and nine Bulls Celtics tray, which was a wild, wild series.
Speaker 1: We're talking multiple overtimes.
Speaker 2: Ray Allen had a fifty one point game, Derek Rose
Speaker 2: put up a thirty six. At one point, the total
Speaker 2: points weren't quite the same. I think there was a
Speaker 2: Ben Gordon forty point game, but the shot making was
Speaker 2: very similar, and obviously I think Zach mentioned that there
Speaker 2: were like multiple moments in that where it's coming.
Speaker 1: Down to the last second.
Speaker 2: We haven't really had that as much in this series
Speaker 2: hopefully game seven though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, is there any other series Lee that come
Speaker 4: to mind, like just again crazy first round series?
Speaker 3: I think Spurs clip is from twenty five fifteen, the
Speaker 3: one where Chris Paul hits the runner off the banker
Speaker 3: to win it in game seven. I think that was
Speaker 3: a pretty close, close series because if I remember correctly,
Speaker 3: the Clippers were down two to one in that series
Speaker 3: and Game four was in San Antonio, and I was like,
Speaker 3: this is like the Spurs are going to win this
Speaker 3: series now. But then the Clippers came back, and I
Speaker 3: think Chris Paul even had the hamstring injury which cost
Speaker 3: him the first couple of games of the next round,
Speaker 3: but he still went out and just got that victory
Speaker 3: over of San Antonio in game seven. So that's the
Speaker 3: only sort of seven game series other than the Bull
Speaker 3: Celtics that I can really think of that was that
Speaker 3: was pretty tight the whole way anyway.
Speaker 4: I know, I think it was Hollander making the case
Speaker 4: for a thunder Grizzlies in twenty fourteen, which went to
Speaker 4: overtime multiple multiple games. That Clipper Spurs series is isn't
Speaker 4: that famous in our world? For two reasons? One task
Speaker 4: wasn't that the one where you picked the Clips to
Speaker 4: beat the Spurs and like Doc Rivers like almost used
Speaker 4: it as motivation, well all the other people picking the
Speaker 4: Spurs to win it.
Speaker 1: And then it had like tass Mellists.
Speaker 5: Clippers that yeah, totally totally unlike this series here that
Speaker 5: we're talking about, where I picked the Nuggets in five. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I picked the Clippers in seven to beat the Spurs
Speaker 5: their first playoff series victory, you know, over the Spurs,
Speaker 5: And yeah, he used Doc Rivers put it up on
Speaker 5: the board apparently. I remember Jamie Maggio showing that photo
Speaker 5: of everybody else putting in their picks. Everybody else had
Speaker 5: their individual picks, but we were as a team basically,
Speaker 5: and then mine sort of stood out amongst our four.
Speaker 1: Shout out to whoever took that screenshot at the start.
Speaker 5: Exactly that piece of paper and thanks for photo shopping that,
Speaker 5: Blake Griffin. I appreciate it. It was definitely Blake griff
Speaker 5: It didn't.
Speaker 3: Weren't a few people upset that they weren't included that
Speaker 3: they picked the Clippers as well, that it was like
Speaker 3: selective that doc only one person out. Now there's like, oh,
Speaker 3: I picked the Clippers too, And I was like, but
Speaker 3: I remember seeing a fee.
Speaker 5: As far as I can tell, there was like fifty
Speaker 5: people on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a lot of Spurs picks.
Speaker 5: Everybody taken the Spurs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't remember that John Hollandre Thunder series. I probably should,
Speaker 5: but I think the Grizzlies have played a bunch of series,
Speaker 5: but unfortunately they don't get the love only from John hollingd.
Speaker 5: They're just one of those teams that they play a
Speaker 5: lot of long series. But I just remember, I mean,
Speaker 5: the most consequential first round series that always comes to
Speaker 5: mind is that we believe Warriors beating the MAVs, the
Speaker 5: sixty seven win MAVs. But you know that wasn't exciting
Speaker 5: that the Bulls Celtics won. That was not really consequential
Speaker 5: because the Celtics went on to win that series and
Speaker 5: then lose the next round. But it was like Liam
Speaker 5: Neeson movie, like nobody really cares what happens, but you're
Speaker 5: in thralled by the whole thing, right, Like that was
Speaker 5: how many? There's like seven overtimes in that series?
Speaker 1: Triple ot game six? That's awesome?
Speaker 3: Was that Ray Allen game? The fifty one? Was that
Speaker 3: the triple overtime? Was that that game?
Speaker 5: Game? It was a game sick?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, Like that's just crazy to think
Speaker 3: that that was a triple overtime game and that fifty
Speaker 3: one was like, wow, Ray Allen had fifty one. Now
Speaker 3: we're getting guys just putting up fifty one, right, you know,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: The Murray Mitchell what they're doing right now. It is
Speaker 4: it wasn't a first round series, but tass, I mean
Speaker 4: you can speak to this too. It reminds you a
Speaker 4: little bit of Vince Carter versus Allen Iverson in the
Speaker 4: second round back in two thousand and one in that
Speaker 4: seven game series, just in terms of the pure scoring
Speaker 4: and doing it efficiently. Those guys put up some monster
Speaker 4: numbers in that one. It just feels like this I
Speaker 4: tweeted last night, It feels like this one's on steroids
Speaker 4: from that with these young guys in Murray and Mitchell.
Speaker 4: The way they're getting their buckets.
Speaker 5: No doubt. Yeah, Iverson had a couple fifties, Vince had
Speaker 5: a couple of fifties. And if it's anything like that series,
Speaker 5: we're going to get a bit of a dudley. In
Speaker 5: the game seven, a bit of it died right the
Speaker 5: game high in that game was twenty three points from
Speaker 5: Antonio Davis. Of all people, Vince and Iverson cooled off. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so I think I think you got to get the
Speaker 5: ball out of Jamals. I understand what you guys are saying,
Speaker 5: but sometimes Jamal Murray would lose the ball, like that
Speaker 5: one where he went behind the back and he lost
Speaker 5: it and there was nobody around to touch it. He
Speaker 5: picked it up and then he did a nice little
Speaker 5: scoop off the glass and he felt so good. I mean,
Speaker 5: ies on the guy who's scoring fifty points on the
Speaker 5: other team. It's I just don't I just don't believe that.
Speaker 5: Jeremy Grant and Paul Millsap, he just doesn't have it
Speaker 5: right now. Uh and and even Monte Morris. You know,
Speaker 5: I throw Tory Craig in there, but like they just
Speaker 5: just try it. I think I think you gotta try
Speaker 5: it again. Your your offense with Don Mitchell is good
Speaker 5: enough to bring you back. But yeah, this is is
Speaker 5: a lot like Iverson and Vince.
Speaker 4: It really is a final little part back to that
Speaker 4: Clipper Spurs series you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Was that fifteen you said, Lee? I think so, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: forty fifteen.
Speaker 4: This is for Tray and Task. Specifically, where were we
Speaker 4: when we watched Chris Paul hit the game winner versus
Speaker 4: the Spurs. What restaurant were we? I believe altogether, I
Speaker 4: know some of.
Speaker 1: You are with me.
Speaker 5: It's a two two word restaurant.
Speaker 1: Three sort of three.
Speaker 5: It's a the.
Speaker 1: Something dollar cafe.
Speaker 4: No, it's a number first something something something like a
Speaker 4: number and then an animal.
Speaker 2: Number that wood.
Speaker 1: Nice pull man.
Speaker 4: We were, I think, I don't mean Tag was, but
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure you both were. And we watched it
Speaker 4: like in the little bar setting because we're like we
Speaker 4: were out for brunch. I think it was like I
Speaker 4: think Sunday.
Speaker 3: I don't know it was a Sunday because I'm actually
Speaker 3: I was actually listening to it on the radio. I
Speaker 3: was driving somewhere, I remember because I had that, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I had the radio the NBA app in my side
Speaker 3: console like on where I was driving and I was like,
Speaker 3: oh my god, what's going on here? And watch it
Speaker 3: fired up?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just remember we were we had friends, I think
Speaker 4: maybe in town or something, and that's why we were
Speaker 4: not watching the game, and we were all out for
Speaker 4: brunch and then we were gonna, of course watch it later.
Speaker 4: But it was on in the bar part of this
Speaker 4: nice restaurant and we.
Speaker 1: Like had I remember us. We all got up and
Speaker 1: watched like the final a couple of minutes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the brunch is delicious, but their game watching setup
Speaker 2: is not ideal. You're there for the food. But yeah,
Speaker 2: in a pinch, you can you can see Chris Paul
Speaker 2: hit a game winner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was a tiny TV, if I remember correctly, one
Speaker 4: in stag one tiny TV.
Speaker 1: It was a dinner. There was a dinner.
Speaker 5: Those it wasn't a dinner, okay, okay, Yeah, eight pm
Speaker 5: APM start Basketball Reference so good, so good? Okay, wow, okay,
Speaker 5: the only site that has that start times on there.
Speaker 4: You know what I was doing there, I was doing
Speaker 4: the classic two thousand and one Sixers Raptors. That was
Speaker 4: a day game. That was That was the May two
Speaker 4: four weekend story where the Raptors lost that I was
Speaker 4: at a basement bar. We all stood up to Singo Canada.
Speaker 5: In rural Canada. Yeah, really weird.
Speaker 4: Basketball is the best, Okay, So anything else from this one?
Speaker 4: I mean, look, what do you think? I said, Trey,
Speaker 4: Remember I threw it at you. I said, does Game
Speaker 4: six feel like a must win for the Jazz? You know,
Speaker 4: we were debating that is that silly? Is that stupid?
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 4: Like what really carries over at zero zero when they
Speaker 4: start Game seven? But what do you think? What's your
Speaker 4: prediction for Game seven? How do you make a prediction
Speaker 4: for this game? Game sevens are like a toss up regardless.
Speaker 4: Both the Nuggets and the Jazz have been such up
Speaker 4: and down teams for the entirety of the year. Anytime
Speaker 4: you feel like they have momentum, it could definitely flip.
Speaker 4: There to be a lot of nerves at the beginning
Speaker 4: of Game s, haven't it feels like?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I would tend to pick Murray because he's
Speaker 2: been on fire for three straight games, but maybe that's
Speaker 2: the problem that being sad. I was a Nuggets pick
Speaker 2: earlier before the series started, and so of course I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the Nuggets in this one.
Speaker 4: Right, you were a Nuggets in seven, just like I was.
Speaker 1: Where did you go with this one? Lee? I can't remember.
Speaker 3: I think I said Nuggets in six? Yeah, we all
Speaker 3: had the Nuggets right right. I'm just going to throw
Speaker 3: this out there too. Whoever loses, do you think their
Speaker 3: coach might be canned as well? Because think about a
Speaker 3: Quinn Snyder if they don't get out of the first
Speaker 3: round when they led three to one against Denver. He's
Speaker 3: been there I think seven seasons. Now, that's a long time.
Speaker 3: And this is a season when they came in, they
Speaker 3: had high expectations. And then if you're Michael Malone, listen,
Speaker 3: the number three seed, you go out to the number
Speaker 3: six seed. You know, like, are you really getting the
Speaker 3: most out of those guys?
Speaker 4: Yo?
Speaker 3: Kitchen and Murray he's been there a while too, So
Speaker 3: I wonder if one of those guys is going to
Speaker 3: get canned. I hope not, but you know it's gonna
Speaker 3: be a it's going to be a disappointing end to
Speaker 3: the season for the team whichever team loses.
Speaker 4: It sure, sure, yeah, they both, especially with the Jazz
Speaker 4: being up three one. I mean, I can't remember a
Speaker 4: series where it looked like a team was so dominant
Speaker 4: for the first half of the series and then sort
Speaker 4: of looked like they're outclass for the second half.
Speaker 1: Mitchell's been good.
Speaker 4: Not a lot of other guys on the Jazz have
Speaker 4: been over the last couple I mean Joe Engle, sorry, Leally,
Speaker 4: he's sort of disappeared here.
Speaker 3: For he has. I mean those first those games when
Speaker 3: they were leinning, he was great for them, you know,
Speaker 3: doing all those things, knocking down shots, being a bit
Speaker 3: of a creator. But yeah, defensively he gets cooked a lot,
Speaker 3: and on the offensive end, he's not really making up
Speaker 3: for it right now. So yeah, they need a lot
Speaker 3: more out of him. And Rudy Gobert's been okay, but
Speaker 3: not quite as good as he was when they were
Speaker 3: when they won those three games where he was just
Speaker 3: feasting on Jokic. They've actually Jokich's defense has been a lot.
Speaker 3: His awareness of go beer sort of rolling to the
Speaker 3: hoop has been improved.
Speaker 4: Yes, he's keeping that big body well some down big
Speaker 4: body a little closer to him, you're right, Yeah. And
Speaker 4: then Gobert, like even last night he missed like a
Speaker 4: pretty It would have been an awesome Lau like that
Speaker 4: one hand jam. But you can see him like he
Speaker 4: dropped his head after it. He was like you could
Speaker 4: tell he was very frustrated how he's been playing to
Speaker 4: But yeah, I guess I'll stick with the Nuggets in
Speaker 4: Game seven. But Tray's right, flip a coin, taskway, what
Speaker 4: do you say you got Denver?
Speaker 5: I'm with training that I have no idea what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I'll take Denver. I'll take Denver with the
Speaker 5: way things are flowing right now.
Speaker 4: All right, let's keep it going here. Kawhi Leonard's Clippers
Speaker 4: eliminate Luca and the Mavericks in six games, one eleven
Speaker 4: ninety seven victory there on Sunday, Kawhi, oh my goodness,
Speaker 4: dominant again thirty three fourteen, seven asists, five steals, Trey
Speaker 4: big takeaway. Maybe outside of Kawhi just being a machine,
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 2: He's awesome. This guy is killing it right now. Five
Speaker 2: straight games with thirty plus points. It's his best postseason streaking.
Speaker 2: He really won the game for the Clippers in the
Speaker 2: fourth quorder, the Mavericks were able to get it down
Speaker 2: to double digits. Kawhi gets put back in. He scores
Speaker 2: eight straight for the Clips. Then Reggie Jackson hit a
Speaker 2: couple of three. The game was basically a wrapped Kawhi
Speaker 2: had twenty two in the second half on nine of
Speaker 2: ten shooting. Doc said, you can tell he's the guy
Speaker 2: who knows how to close out a series, and that's
Speaker 2: exactly what it looked like. He just put the team
Speaker 2: on his back. He was hitting these little Michael Jordan's
Speaker 2: style flip shots in the lane, driving across, not even
Speaker 2: touching the ball with his left hand, just dumping it
Speaker 2: up on the rim, no problem. He was incredible, and
Speaker 2: you know the control he has and the advantage he
Speaker 2: has to be able to get a mid range jumper
Speaker 2: when that's the thing that every team in the league
Speaker 2: wants to give up.
Speaker 1: It's huge.
Speaker 2: I mean, he can get his shot every single time.
Speaker 2: It's just a matter of is he going to make
Speaker 2: it or miss it? He made most of them last night.
Speaker 2: Dontich again was great thirty eight, nine and nine in
Speaker 2: an elimination game. But the only thing people are going
Speaker 2: to be talking about with this is the future for
Speaker 2: the Mavericks. It looks bright. They need to put some
Speaker 2: more pieces around Luca. They needed to get kristaps heal
Speaker 2: at the end. Of course, another cheap shot from Marcus
Speaker 2: Morris ejected in the first quarter for karate chopping the
Speaker 2: donk right.
Speaker 1: In the neck as Luca drove to the rim for
Speaker 1: a layup.
Speaker 3: Ridiculous suspending suspending for that. Give him a game for sure,
Speaker 3: I absolutely think so. At first, I thought, oh, no,
Speaker 3: that's just a hard playoff out. When you look back
Speaker 3: at it, that swipe sort of down across his neck
Speaker 3: head totally unnecessary, and he's had a couple of little
Speaker 3: incidents in this series on the league. I just give
Speaker 3: him a game minimum for that, and say, you've been
Speaker 3: pushing us for too long, man, and you certainly didn't
Speaker 3: need to do that hard faire as of one thing.
Speaker 3: But just whacking a guy across the head like that
Speaker 3: a bit of a jerk off move. You'll get in
Speaker 3: a game for that, bud, all.
Speaker 4: Right, especially when you take into consideration last week when
Speaker 4: he steps on Lucas ankle, right, he says he didn't
Speaker 4: do it intentionally, of course some people think he did.
Speaker 4: And then now you've got the karate chop. It was
Speaker 4: definitely a karate chop. Yeah, it was a hard playoff
Speaker 4: foul and he rightfully got ejected and the flagrant two
Speaker 4: on that. But what do you think task does he
Speaker 4: get a game for this?
Speaker 5: I think he does. He has earned this reputation now
Speaker 5: throughout the series and throughout the season. As our own
Speaker 5: Trey Kirby tweeted, is Marcus Morris the first guy to
Speaker 5: get suspended in the preseason, regular season, and now postseason
Speaker 5: in the history of the NBA. He's earned it, he
Speaker 5: really has. After the step on the ankle after they
Speaker 5: getting into it with Christaps Porzingis in Game one, Listen,
Speaker 5: I think it's good overall when you zoom out, it's
Speaker 5: good to have this guy on your team. If you're
Speaker 5: Doc Rivers. Duckers loves this guy. Doc Rivers loves the
Speaker 5: fact that Luka Doncic. Number one was he was getting
Speaker 5: physical with Marcus Morris on the drive to the hoop
Speaker 5: as he should. You know, he was pushing him off there.
Speaker 5: That was a real tough chicken wing. And then after
Speaker 5: he got up after the hack on his neck, he
Speaker 5: was livid. And that's exactly what you want, is Doc Rivers.
Speaker 5: You want somebody to get under the other best player's skin,
Speaker 5: and that has thrown him off, you know, to a degree.
Speaker 5: Luca was amazing in this game and the series and
Speaker 5: having that sixteen point third quarter. But yeah, I think
Speaker 5: overall the lineup is perfect for Doc Rivers and I
Speaker 5: think they sort of found something here. First, they found
Speaker 5: out that Kawhi even though he's the best player in
Speaker 5: the playoffs right now, I think he's been the steadiest
Speaker 5: player in the postseason. He's still doing it co quietly. Yeah,
Speaker 5: needed to throw that ugly punt in there, but he's
Speaker 5: still the best. And then the fact that Patrick Beverly
Speaker 5: is out, Landry Shammitt came into the starting lineup and
Speaker 5: he's kind of perfect. You know, if you need a
Speaker 5: defensive point guard, Patrick Beverley, you throw him in there.
Speaker 5: But Landry Shammitt is more of a money shooter on
Speaker 5: the outside. And if you look forward, whether it's Denver,
Speaker 5: Utah and then the Lakers, you don't need a Patrick
Speaker 5: Beverley necessarily for the guards that they have. For like
Speaker 5: a KCP out there, I think Landry shammittt does enough
Speaker 5: defensively and a whole ton offensively, you know, to be
Speaker 5: that complimentary guy. And then off the bench you got
Speaker 5: Reggie Jackson, who in baseball, we all know is mister October.
Speaker 5: But in this game, in this game, Reggie Jackson was
Speaker 5: a closer. He really was. He hit some big threes
Speaker 5: and we're going to be potentially playing in October. If
Speaker 5: Reggie Jackson's in the finals, he could be the new
Speaker 5: mister October instead of mister April, May or June. But
Speaker 5: I just bring that up because it's one of them
Speaker 5: good problems to have, understandably, to have too many guys
Speaker 5: like Whin Patrick Beverley comes back. But we're going from
Speaker 5: this issue with the Clippers of not enough team camaraderie,
Speaker 5: they hadn't played enough games together was the idea, and
Speaker 5: I was definitely buying into that, guys like lou Williams,
Speaker 5: Mantres Harold coming in and out of the bubble. But
Speaker 5: now those two guys are getting killed defensively, and so
Speaker 5: you have to kind of take one off the floor,
Speaker 5: lou In Montrez. And so now Doc has to kind
Speaker 5: of shuffle these lineups here. And I think Marcus Morris
Speaker 5: he's going to be there to stay, even if he's
Speaker 5: suspended for Game one of Round two, which I think
Speaker 5: he will be. He's going to be in that starting
Speaker 5: lineup because he's a really good basketball player. I know,
Speaker 5: I know he plays ugly ball, but you can give
Speaker 5: it to him and expect the bucket. I mean, he
Speaker 5: was twenty points per game this year with the Knicks
Speaker 5: on good percentages because he's he can get a bucket
Speaker 5: at any time. So the Clippers are in a real
Speaker 5: great spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Reggie Jackson hitting the three spot up threes there
Speaker 4: to ice this one. Yeah, more of a Dennis Eckersley.
Speaker 4: Is that what you're thinking? They're task but the closer.
Speaker 1: Jackson's career as a starter perfect.
Speaker 5: Yeah that wow, wow, Yeah, Yeah, Reggie Jackson did it
Speaker 5: for the A's as well as Dennis accuracy. You kind
Speaker 5: of forget Reggie's Oakland A's days. I think I'm more
Speaker 5: of a Yankee, but yeah, for sure, I'm not that old,
Speaker 5: so I don't remember the Oakland days. But yeah, good stuff.
Speaker 5: Is we got another one? You want to pull out
Speaker 5: a Mike Diago, I'm Karney Lansford. Who and who Karney mckmustache.
Speaker 5: He had a great third baseman mustache.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 4: Back to Kawhi cooking. I liked when they tried to
Speaker 4: go to the two three zone on him. Nope, that's
Speaker 4: not gonna work, because that's when you see the limitations
Speaker 4: of a zone in the NBA, when the other team
Speaker 4: has a guy like Kawhi that can very easily score
Speaker 4: or make something happen. And then late in this game,
Speaker 4: you're you know, you're talking about it there, Trey. He
Speaker 4: hit three straight jumpers where he didn't put the ball
Speaker 4: on the floor. I get it, he's a tough cover,
Speaker 4: but you gotta try and get up into him a
Speaker 4: little bit more and at least make the guy dribble. Uh,
Speaker 4: and and try and maybe turn the ball over or
Speaker 4: you don't want to pass or something, or make someone
Speaker 4: else like that was that was wild. You don't see
Speaker 4: that a lot just literally gets the ball. Everything slows
Speaker 4: down because Kawi is in no damn rush and then
Speaker 4: just okay, are you gonna stand that far away from me?
Speaker 1: You're sure?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna shoot it and uh and then just
Speaker 4: knock them down time after time. I mean, he was
Speaker 4: not feeling any defense, any pressure at all. Again, not
Speaker 4: easy because even then when you pressure him, he's gonna
Speaker 4: go right around you, uh and then probably hit like
Speaker 4: one of those little crazy MJ like shots you said
Speaker 4: there Trey.
Speaker 1: But gotta give him a little bit more. Uh.
Speaker 4: The only thing else to add to this is a
Speaker 4: question for you guys, who would the Clippers rather see
Speaker 4: in the second round? Because they're gonna take on the
Speaker 4: Nuggets or Jazz, what's a what's a more favorable matchup
Speaker 4: for them? I'm sure they don't care about either team,
Speaker 4: like they are a title contender, so it shouldn't matter.
Speaker 4: But who would they rather see? Who do you think?
Speaker 3: Lee? Yeah, they're pretty even, pretty even. I guess they
Speaker 3: would rather see the Jazz.
Speaker 1: I suppose I meant so too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I really can't split these two
Speaker 3: teams because if you look inside, you've got Gobert and Joki,
Speaker 3: so both big guys who should have an advantage over
Speaker 3: Zubat's you know, in the starting but you know that
Speaker 3: played great. Yeah he competes. And then they've got the
Speaker 3: other bigger guys who who can you know, like Montrez
Speaker 3: are going to throw their body at whoever the big
Speaker 3: is for the other team. But then you've got Mitchell
Speaker 3: and Murray. I mean, either one of those are going
Speaker 3: you expect to have a really big performance as well.
Speaker 3: And then you've got the role players. The question I
Speaker 3: guess about the Jazz is they tend to sort of
Speaker 3: fall apart a little bit in the playoffs at some point.
Speaker 3: And the Nuggets, I mean, they went to seven last
Speaker 3: year and they lost the game seven home, so very
Speaker 3: very tough to really split. They've just got so many
Speaker 3: similar parts and pieces that I don't ultimately don't think.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking who would match up on Kawhi the best,
Speaker 3: who would have the best defender for Kauahi. It's probably
Speaker 3: a Jeremy Grant or a Royce O'Neill, probably, and neither
Speaker 3: one of those are gonna ska wild that much, so
Speaker 3: ultimately it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: Okay, Trey, you sort of agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kinda feel the same way that I feel
Speaker 2: about both of those teams. As the Clippers playing against
Speaker 2: the Mavericks, Like Maxi Kleiba is giving it as all
Speaker 2: out there and he's doing a pretty good job. But
Speaker 2: it's like Kwai can score eight straight points on three
Speaker 2: possessions basically whenever he wants to. It's just a matter
Speaker 2: of Okay, I'll do it right now, and I'll do
Speaker 2: it in the second quarter, and I'll do it in
Speaker 2: the first quarter and at the end of the game,
Speaker 2: it all adds up to thirty. Yeah, that's going to
Speaker 2: be the case against either of the teams that the
Speaker 2: Clippers could see in the second round.
Speaker 4: YEP, probably true. One final thing, I lied, Lee, I
Speaker 4: knew you would have liked this. When we had the
Speaker 4: karate chop Morris on Luca and all that, we had
Speaker 4: the rare four free throws to make three points situation.
Speaker 4: We do not get that very often, and Luca, I think,
Speaker 4: only went two for four, so he sort of ruined it.
Speaker 1: I missed a couple of years, but yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was wild.
Speaker 4: You don't see that often free throws to make three points.
Speaker 4: So if he had hit his first three, then that's it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you're not getting the fourth one, crazy, right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 4: if you missed one, he would have had a chance.
Speaker 3: What you did. Yeah, I really wasn't paying attention to that,
Speaker 3: but yeah, you're right, You're right. I just mo always
Speaker 3: looking back at I think it was Boban who sort
Speaker 3: of prevented Luca from going at Marcus. I mean, just
Speaker 3: that gigantic man there. I mean, Luca's watched six six
Speaker 3: sixty seven something like that, and he looked like he
Speaker 3: was about four feet tall in that particular moment because
Speaker 3: Boban just stands there and just he's just such a
Speaker 3: huge human being.
Speaker 1: It's just yeah, that was.
Speaker 2: The closest that Dont just came to injury when Boban
Speaker 2: pulled his arm back.
Speaker 1: No, no, his armor.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, he just.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean this is the funny part, ironic part. Right,
Speaker 4: The Mavericks can maybe use a Marcus Morris. I mean, Boban,
Speaker 4: that's great. He's a giant, so he's a bit of
Speaker 4: a forcer that way, but he's like the friendly bouncer, right,
Speaker 4: you need the crazy bouncer, and that's Marcus Morris. Uh,
Speaker 4: they could use a guy like that parent Sid Luca.
Speaker 4: Not that Luca can't take this. The kid played in Europe.
Speaker 4: I mean, oh yeah, he saw some hard shots, some
Speaker 4: hard fouls and you know he's not afraid. He's going
Speaker 4: at these guys. But you still need you need a
Speaker 4: crazy weirdo like Marcus Morris in your corner. I think
Speaker 4: on your roster. It always helps to do the dirty work.
Speaker 4: So maybe they'll maybe they'll get one of those type
Speaker 4: of guys in the league. What do you think they're task.
Speaker 5: Oh Luca was he just kept coming in this series totally.
Speaker 5: He needs somebody like that beside him. But as Doc
Speaker 5: Rivers said postgame, when Luca came into the league, I
Speaker 5: had a man crush on him and it's only developed
Speaker 5: more and more and more. And he was trying to
Speaker 5: be physical with Luca. But Luca six games, all the
Speaker 5: way through the fourth quarter, was trying to pull his
Speaker 5: team to victory and despite all the injuries. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: definitely could use just somebody who's also on the floor
Speaker 5: to defend him because Boban's coming off the bench generally
Speaker 5: and has to be the Yeah, the friendly bouncer, as
Speaker 5: he put it, That's that's the way to put it
Speaker 5: for sure. Yeah, he could use some nastiness. But this
Speaker 5: Mats team, they fought, they really did. It was it
Speaker 5: was cool to see Tim Hardaway play defense and know
Speaker 5: guys like Trey Burke and Michael Kidd, Gilchris, guys who
Speaker 5: have you know, sort of gone from in our NBA NERDM.
Speaker 5: We love those type of guys, like we you know,
Speaker 5: we all follow all these guys. They kind of drop
Speaker 5: off a little bit and now they're sort of in
Speaker 5: the in the sphere of things against It was cool
Speaker 5: to see those those guys come back. But uh yeahs
Speaker 5: as even Rick Carlisle said postgame, I was watching a
Speaker 5: lot of postgame press conferences. He said, Uh, you know,
Speaker 5: we're we're going to get better guys around Luca and
Speaker 5: that's that's the goal here. And yeah, that's that's the
Speaker 5: number one objective. Even though those guys are all great stories,
Speaker 5: if they can find a number three and keep Chris
Speaker 5: Tops healthy, lookout.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, this was by no means a disappointing first
Speaker 4: playoff appearance for Luca Dodgs because sometimes you see that, right,
Speaker 4: you see young talent have an incredible year and then
Speaker 4: they get the first taste of the playoffs and you know,
Speaker 4: it's a bit of a shell shock moment. I know,
Speaker 4: this whole bubble thing sort of throws that out the
Speaker 4: window because there's no fans and you're not on the
Speaker 4: road and stuff. But like you know, we've seen guys
Speaker 4: have dominant, young regular seasons and then struggle in their
Speaker 4: first playoff series. I can't say that happened here with Luca,
Speaker 4: and he did it against one of the best defenses
Speaker 4: in the league. On a bum ankle for a good
Speaker 4: chunk of it. No, Kristaps Porsing is for a good
Speaker 4: chunk of it and still put up a fight. So yeah,
Speaker 4: you're you know, I saw Mark Cuban tweeting how like
Speaker 4: excited it felt like, you know, coming through on the tweet,
Speaker 4: just like the future is still promisingly with with well
Speaker 4: you saw here from Luca and what he even had
Speaker 4: around him still getting them to a couple of victories.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's just the defensive end you've talked about it.
Speaker 3: That's what they need. They need someone who can protect
Speaker 3: the paint and protect the perimeter a little bit better
Speaker 3: because you can't have Luca trying to do all that
Speaker 3: on both ends of the floor. And I think, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know who they're going to target, but I
Speaker 3: think a guy like in al Horford, you know, who
Speaker 3: could help them defensively. I think that would be important
Speaker 3: and he offensively wouldn't hurt them either, but he's probably
Speaker 3: not quite on the same timeline as where the Mavericks are.
Speaker 3: But the player like that, you know, prime al horforit
Speaker 3: there in Atlanta and Boston, I think would be certainly
Speaker 3: an upgrade. And then they need some perimeter defense as well.
Speaker 2: So I have a feeling Philadelphia might be okay with
Speaker 2: partying with Al Horford maybe gettable Oh yeah, no.
Speaker 3: I mean that's the sort of thing. But he's what
Speaker 3: thirty three I think now, So you knows his best
Speaker 3: days are probably behind him, but he's the sort of
Speaker 3: player that I'm saying, you know that they need someone
Speaker 3: there to help sure Chris STAPs as well help Kristaps
Speaker 3: learn how to play a bit better defense. So, but
Speaker 3: you know the things from the Maverick yesterday. Offensively, I
Speaker 3: think Luca will be great with a guy like a
Speaker 3: Tim Hardaway and adri In Phinney Smith if those guys
Speaker 3: can be consistent and relied upon like they were earlier
Speaker 3: in the series. But you also knew it was like
Speaker 3: they were kind of punching above their weight to do
Speaker 3: it the entire series without Kristaps. So, but that's the
Speaker 3: sort of system I think that Luca is best in
Speaker 3: when it's like, you know, it's like Lebron, you know,
Speaker 3: when he was at his prime, like or in his
Speaker 3: Cleveland days, like spread him around with shooters and let
Speaker 3: him dictate how he's going to facilitate the offense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I would have liked to have seen, honestly,
Speaker 4: the Mavericks play the Nuggets or the Jazz. I wonder
Speaker 4: if they would have beaten them in the first round series. No,
Speaker 4: I know, the porzingis injury, you know, MUCKs things up.
Speaker 4: But they are playing the Clippers here, who people had
Speaker 4: as a Championshi contender from day one, you know, when
Speaker 4: they bring in Kawhi and Paul George and yeah, they
Speaker 4: were missing a lot of guys throughout the year, but
Speaker 4: everyone had them on the short list of teams to
Speaker 4: win the title. So this is not like, oh, what
Speaker 4: a tough first round loss, you know, like the complete opposite.
Speaker 4: They're playing on what should be one of the best
Speaker 4: teams in the league. And I wonder if they would
Speaker 4: have advanced to the second round if they matched up
Speaker 4: almost against anybody except the Lakers are close.
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Speaker 4: Celtics dominate the Raptors one, twelve ninety four to take
Speaker 4: the one to zero Eastern Conference Semifinals lead league.
Speaker 1: Get us started.
Speaker 4: It was a miserable day for the Raps there. It
Speaker 4: was a rough first quarter and it didn't really get
Speaker 4: much better from there. Celtics played a pretty damn good
Speaker 4: game of basketball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all I can say about this one for
Speaker 3: the Raptors. Now listen watching this game. Fantastic performance from
Speaker 3: the Celtics. They were on their game from the start.
Speaker 3: They scored easily, they defended well. The Raptors couldn't score
Speaker 3: at all, and their offense looked awful. See after we
Speaker 3: getting three fouls in the first quarter. I certainly didn't help.
Speaker 3: But two years ago, if you remember, in the second round,
Speaker 3: the Raptors played the Cads in a game that they
Speaker 3: should have won, but they lost, and basically they lost
Speaker 3: the entire series with that one game, even though I
Speaker 3: know it took a game winner from Lebron in Game
Speaker 3: three of that series. But you've just felt that the
Speaker 3: Raptors didn't win that game and that affected them mentally.
Speaker 1: That really just.
Speaker 4: Right right you're talking about the game where they had
Speaker 4: like seven chances to tip the ball.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, So they lose that game and
Speaker 3: you could just tell that it was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: how they lost the unlosable game. Now, this game wasn't unlosable.
Speaker 3: And the Raptors are so much different from them because
Speaker 3: mentally they're a very strong team. Go back to last
Speaker 3: season in the playoffs, every round except for the finals,
Speaker 3: they were down in a series, they tailed in a series,
Speaker 3: and they fought back, and I think that's a credit
Speaker 3: to Nick Nurse, but also just to the players. They
Speaker 3: are experiencing their veterans, and that's what if you're a
Speaker 3: Raptors fan, you are hoping to see now in game two,
Speaker 3: like a pretty quick bounce back, a pretty quick response,
Speaker 3: because Game one was as bad as I think the
Speaker 3: Raptors could have played.
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 3: I didn't see anyone out there who seemed to get
Speaker 3: in any sort of flow. And again, a lot of
Speaker 3: that I think goes to the Celtics defense and just
Speaker 3: the way that they played from the start. The Celtics
Speaker 3: jumped on the Raptors from the start, and anytime the
Speaker 3: Raptors got that lead to sort of nine or eight points,
Speaker 3: it just felt then all of a sudden, the Celtics
Speaker 3: rattled off three or four straight baskets. Kemball was great.
Speaker 3: Jason Tatum, I think he only finished with twenty one
Speaker 3: in the end, but it felt like he had a
Speaker 3: way bigger impact on the game. And Marcus Smart was
Speaker 3: also very, very good for the Celtics at both ends.
Speaker 3: So this one you could look out and go, wow,
Speaker 3: the Raptors are in trouble here, and before they won
Speaker 3: the championship, I would say absolutely they're in trouble. But
Speaker 3: having won the championship and shown last season that they
Speaker 3: mentally are a lot tougher team, I think this is
Speaker 3: just one of those ugly games. They missed five days.
Speaker 3: Kyle Larry talked about the emotional things that they've gone through.
Speaker 3: Of course, with a couple of days off, so they
Speaker 3: weren't on the they didn't get off to a good start.
Speaker 3: But I think the Raptors just don't need to panic anyway,
Speaker 3: and I don't think they will. I think they'll be
Speaker 3: much better in Game two. I certainly hope so, because
Speaker 3: otherwise this series could be over very quickly if the
Speaker 3: Raptors can't sort of shake off that performance.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Raptors first quarter eleven fouls committed, okay, three
Speaker 4: of them on Siakam, Ugly turnover after ugly turnover, missing
Speaker 4: makeable shots at times, and we're down thirty nine to
Speaker 4: twenty three. They could not find any sort of rhythm offensively. Now,
Speaker 4: they never really found it all game, and that's the
Speaker 4: concern task if you're a Raps fan. Celtics are a
Speaker 4: damn good defensive team. They took away the transition lee.
Speaker 4: That's something you talked about heading into the series. Raps
Speaker 4: only had seven fast break points, and that is with
Speaker 4: the Celtics actually turning the ball over a lot. They
Speaker 4: just are so athletic, so discipline defensively, they just screen
Speaker 4: back on defense and they're like, just don't let the
Speaker 4: Raps score in transition because we think we can slow
Speaker 4: them enough. When it's half court and you know, so far,
Speaker 4: so good. Of course after one game, really now two
Speaker 4: games down in the bubble where they've done a great job,
Speaker 4: But are you concerned tasks.
Speaker 5: As a Raps fan, one hundred percent definitely concerned. The
Speaker 5: Celtics team is not going to give up transition points.
Speaker 5: The Raptor's weakness is what the Celtics are going to
Speaker 5: try and illuminate here or highlight, and their weakness is
Speaker 5: half court offense. I mean, that's that's where the problem is.
Speaker 5: Where's it going to come from. I think a few
Speaker 5: things here. I think they maybe tried to push Pascal
Speaker 5: Siakam a little bit into that number one role, maybe
Speaker 5: try to focus on him a little too much, maybe
Speaker 5: tried to get him going a little bit too much.
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to find an excuse for why Pascal
Speaker 5: Siakam was missing bunnies at the rim over Jalen Brown,
Speaker 5: who defended him well, and they were definitely ready for
Speaker 5: that spin, but he was also missing the three point shot.
Speaker 5: Pascal Siakam was not good, and he's definitely the guy
Speaker 5: who can overcome any sort of great half court defense.
Speaker 5: He's the guy who can just get his shot at
Speaker 5: any time, so Pascal has to be better. Maybe if
Speaker 5: it's in the flow of the offense, it'll matter a
Speaker 5: little bit more, or he'll be a little less. I
Speaker 5: don't know, Deer in the headlights. I'm the number one
Speaker 5: guy here in a tough series. But he just missed
Speaker 5: bunnies and that was that was weird to see him
Speaker 5: get Jalen Brown down to the rim and then front
Speaker 5: rim it a couple times there early and so he
Speaker 5: had just a terrible night offensively. And I think you
Speaker 5: may have to go small, as we talked about Pascal
Speaker 5: Siakam and og Ananobi at the four or five sit
Speaker 5: down Gasol and Surge, just to try and space it
Speaker 5: out as much because the Celtics defense is so good,
Speaker 5: or maybe you have Mark Gasol on the floor and
Speaker 5: let him guard Marcus Smart. It's a great suggestion from
Speaker 5: our colleague Blake Murphy to see if the Celtics go
Speaker 5: to him a little bit, if the Celtics go away
Speaker 5: from Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, m kemba Walker at all
Speaker 5: and try and get Marcus Smart going on Marcus Sol
Speaker 5: because Gasol's struggling out there on out there trying to
Speaker 5: you know, hang with Daniel Tye on the perimeter and
Speaker 5: then hang with guards. So I think the Marcus Smart
Speaker 5: experiment might not be bad. But we didn't see Nick
Speaker 5: Nurse have to adapt because this was a frigging blowout,
Speaker 5: and so I think I think Nurse would have in
Speaker 5: the fourth quarter if he needed to, because he is
Speaker 5: that kind of guy and we know he will try
Speaker 5: some things. But I'm definitely worried about the half court offense,
Speaker 5: especially when Kyle Lowry looked good and he had a
Speaker 5: seventeen point night, and you know, Kyle Lowry might have
Speaker 5: some duds in this series. You need, you desperately need
Speaker 5: somebody like Fred you know, Og to have a big
Speaker 5: game or a Norman Pwell to have a big game.
Speaker 5: And you got a great surge game as well. So yeah,
Speaker 5: definitely definitely concerned with where the points are going to
Speaker 5: come from.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lowry gave the Raptors a chance at the end
Speaker 4: of the third quarter. I thought he sort of did
Speaker 4: his classic like takes over the game for three or
Speaker 4: four minutes to give him a fighter's chance. And then
Speaker 4: the start of the fourth quarter happens, There's a Lowry
Speaker 4: score again, the Raptors get a stop and then Lowry
Speaker 4: turns the ball over and Brad Wanamaker hits a three,
Speaker 4: and it was like, oh, all that great work you
Speaker 4: did Lowry. There he sort of just gave away there
Speaker 4: on a brutal It was a brutal, brutal turnover. But otherwise, Yeah,
Speaker 4: Sergeo was okay. Lowry played fine. I thought everyone else sucked.
Speaker 4: Van Vliet sucked. He's having another baby. He was three
Speaker 4: or sixteen, two of eleven from deep You hope that
Speaker 4: doesn't happen again. But yeah, Trey, I'm interested to hear
Speaker 4: take You had the Celtics obviously in the series and seven.
Speaker 4: A lot of us picking a seven game series here,
Speaker 4: like you, what did you take away from this game?
Speaker 4: One of how well the Celtics played or how poorly
Speaker 4: the Raptors did.
Speaker 2: Well, the main thing that sticks out is the Raptors
Speaker 2: going ten for forty from three.
Speaker 1: That's terrible.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna win a game shooting twenty five percent
Speaker 2: from three. And then, you know, you would assume that
Speaker 2: the Raptors will shoot a little bit better going forward
Speaker 2: the series, and you also don't expect Marcus Smart to
Speaker 2: make five threes. But the offense just comes easier for
Speaker 2: the Celtics. You know, I thought Kemba Walker was incredible yesterday.
Speaker 2: He was just in complete control in the pick and roll,
Speaker 2: finding out whether he's going to take a jump shot,
Speaker 2: whether he's going to get to the rim, whether he's
Speaker 2: going to set something up for somebody else.
Speaker 1: And I thought Tye was great too.
Speaker 2: He really outplayed Mark Gasol being a fulk rum for
Speaker 2: the offense, cutt into the hoop, hitting the glass, scoring points.
Speaker 1: This Raptors are going to have to.
Speaker 2: Go small if Gasol is not going to do anything
Speaker 2: out there, if he's not playing defense, if he's passing
Speaker 2: up shots. It's the classic Mark Gasol, what are you
Speaker 2: out there doing? You're just out there and they need more.
Speaker 2: They need the Raptors need to find a way to
Speaker 2: score some points because I mean, the Celtics played good.
Speaker 2: Their defense was really really good. I thought in the
Speaker 2: first half, like Lowry, he ended up with a decent line,
Speaker 2: but I didn't think he was really doing anything in
Speaker 2: the first two quarters of the game. And that's really
Speaker 2: where the game was lost for the Raptors. They were
Speaker 2: down by seventeen at halftime, and that's tough to come
Speaker 2: back from then you look at the Celtics. It didn't
Speaker 2: feel like anybody played an incredible game, but you still
Speaker 2: get twenty five twenty one from Smart, twenty one from Tatum,
Speaker 2: seventeen for Brown, eighteen from Kemba Walker. The points just
Speaker 2: pile up because they have so many options out there.
Speaker 2: The Raptors got to find a way to get out
Speaker 2: in transition because the Celtics do a great job.
Speaker 1: They turned the ball over a lot.
Speaker 2: Yesterday, twenty two turnovers, but most of them were not
Speaker 2: live ball turnovers, and the ones that they were, the
Speaker 2: Celtics are a little bit faster, smaller, more athletic team.
Speaker 1: They do a great job of getting back.
Speaker 2: So if Siakam's not gonna be able to score on
Speaker 2: Marcus Smart, maybe you just got to go small and
Speaker 2: try and run as much as you possibly can. Figure
Speaker 2: out a way to get a little more space out
Speaker 2: there so that Fred van Vliet can get some good looks.
Speaker 2: It's just one game, right, like we saw the Celtics.
Speaker 2: The Celtics beat the Bucks last year right in Game
Speaker 2: one and then they ended up losing in five games.
Speaker 2: This can turn in a second the Raptors. They've won
Speaker 2: a Game one, once right in franchise history, literally one time.
Speaker 2: This is where they are meant to be. This is
Speaker 2: still going to be a long series. It's still going
Speaker 2: to be a great series. Can't wait to see the adjustments.
Speaker 2: But Toronto just played really, really poorly yesterday. I thought
Speaker 2: the Celtics were good, great, so it ended up being
Speaker 2: a nice win for Boston.
Speaker 4: Here's an email we got, sup No Dunk's crew is
Speaker 4: Pascal siakam overrated. Nothing he does on f offense is smooth.
Speaker 4: Everything seems rush. That was from Dustin and like you said,
Speaker 4: it was a rough Game one. Let's be honest, tasks.
Speaker 4: He's been bad in the entire restart. He has not
Speaker 4: played well in the bubble. He's averaging under eighteen points
Speaker 4: per game, shooting under forty percent, can't really hit a three,
Speaker 4: He's like at thirty one percent there. And I am
Speaker 4: concerned in like, these teams are so great defensively and
Speaker 4: if they're going to take away transition, if they can
Speaker 4: the Celtics, and it's gonna be half court offense versus
Speaker 4: half court offense. I think Trey, you're sort of right.
Speaker 4: I got a lot more faith in a Tatum and
Speaker 4: maybe even a Brown and maybe even a Kemba for
Speaker 4: that matter, to create something in a one on one
Speaker 4: setting of breaking down a guy and at least getting
Speaker 4: into the paint either to the line or setting up
Speaker 4: another guy that I may be doing the Raptors because Siakam.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, there used to be debates like Tatum
Speaker 4: or Siakam. Tata is Siakam. I love Siakam. I'm a
Speaker 4: raptors him. There's no way in the world you're taking
Speaker 4: Siakam over him. You're just not because Tatum he can dribble,
Speaker 4: he has handled, he can look at you, he can
Speaker 4: square you up and go buy you. That's the problem
Speaker 4: that to me, Siakam can spin until he's left, you know,
Speaker 4: the spin until he's dizzy. But that it's it's different.
Speaker 4: It's just to me, that part's a little different. Now, Yeah,
Speaker 4: he was he was missing bunnies inside because he's a
Speaker 4: big dude and he had smaller guys on him. But
Speaker 4: I think the Celtics are happy with that type of offense.
Speaker 4: If that's what the Raptors have to do. I'm a
Speaker 4: little concerned. I will say after one game. You know,
Speaker 4: we've been here before with the raps. But the Celtics
Speaker 4: might just be a bad matchup for this team because
Speaker 4: they played damn good defense and that's what you got
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 5: Sure, of course, their perimeter defenders are tough, and that's
Speaker 5: why you saw Fred van Vliet see a lot of
Speaker 5: length and have a bad game outside. And Kyle Lowry,
Speaker 5: I thought, yeah, he was definitely slow in the first half,
Speaker 5: but he's not going to score a lot more than
Speaker 5: what he got there with seventeen points. So it is
Speaker 5: going to be up to Passcal Siaka. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to hope for ogn and Obi to have a monstrous game.
Speaker 5: And Norman Powell maybe yes, maybe no. Pascal Siakam is
Speaker 5: definitely no. You wouldn't take him over Jason Tatum, no chance,
Speaker 5: because you know Tatum is on that superstar threshold. While
Speaker 5: Pascal Siakam it's different being a number one option in
Speaker 5: the regular season than it is in the playoffs. It
Speaker 5: was a it was definitely a worry. I think people
Speaker 5: just say he's a number one option because he has
Speaker 5: had to take that role on He's he's he's the
Speaker 5: next logical option when Kawhi Leonard left. It's just it's
Speaker 5: just logic but it's not it's not necessarily that he's
Speaker 5: he's been able to, you know, to to seamlessly go
Speaker 5: into that again. Regular season is just so much different.
Speaker 5: But we all thought he was ready for this role
Speaker 5: because of his growth. Just to be able to score inside.
Speaker 5: It's definitely been a bad bubble situation. Game four against
Speaker 5: the Nets was better his last game before the series,
Speaker 5: so it looked like he was coming on. But yeah,
Speaker 5: he he should be able to hit a four foot
Speaker 5: bunny that has nothing to do with handles, that has
Speaker 5: nothing to do with being able to square up a
Speaker 5: guy and go buy him. It's just a buddy. So
Speaker 5: that's where he's going to score his points. And we
Speaker 5: saw Joel Embiid sort of shut him down last year.
Speaker 5: A big body in the middle in Round two with
Speaker 5: the seventy six ers and Pascal Siakam, you know, like
Speaker 5: Fred van Vliet, like the rest of the Raptors just
Speaker 5: plugged away and found a way to contribute deep into
Speaker 5: the playoffs and kick. But against the Golden State Warriors
Speaker 5: trade this is where I got to correct. You said
Speaker 5: they won one game one in franchise history. I think
Speaker 5: they've won three. They won two. They won two last year,
Speaker 5: including the Warriors.
Speaker 3: Well, I've won four. They won that Vince and Ilivison series.
Speaker 3: I won game one of that series too, at.
Speaker 5: Least, Well, there we go. I think that's that's probably
Speaker 5: that's probably the extent. It's probably four, but it's not
Speaker 5: four and twenty five years sweet, But yeah, it's not.
Speaker 5: He wasn't born a number one guy, but just the
Speaker 5: way he's grown, we thought he would be ready for it.
Speaker 5: He just wasn't ready for it yesterday. And yeah, they're
Speaker 5: a bad matchup because of the length of Shorty Fred.
Speaker 5: He's not he's not a big man. But if there's
Speaker 5: gonna be hands in his face the entire time, somebody
Speaker 5: else has got to help. And you would think Paski
Speaker 5: could do it. I think he's he's he's longer, and
Speaker 5: he's bigger than Jalen Brown. He's not tougher than Marcus Smart.
Speaker 5: And that's the weird part to me. I say tougher,
Speaker 5: I mean, you can't post up Marcus Smart. Well, I
Speaker 5: don't know why anybody tries. It's just it's you're just
Speaker 5: it's not gonna work. Even though Pascal Siakam is bigger.
Speaker 5: That was a weird part to me, Pascal Siakam and
Speaker 5: Sergea Baka as well playing in the post. What are
Speaker 5: we doing here? We're not a post team, There's just not.
Speaker 5: And Pascal occasionally can go in the post, for sure,
Speaker 5: but this game to me was lost. They're down twelve
Speaker 5: end of the first half and you're you're posting up
Speaker 5: serge of Baka. This isn't year one of serge Abaka
Speaker 5: with the OKC thunder here trying to figure out what
Speaker 5: he is. Uh, and then he turned it over because
Speaker 5: it's not his game. And then it goes It's a
Speaker 5: seventeen point game at half when it could have been
Speaker 5: single digits. Uh, you know, not to point out one
Speaker 5: play and say that that's what it was, but I
Speaker 5: think this team doesn't score in the post, and it
Speaker 5: was a It was a strange thing. Nick Nurse. Nurse
Speaker 5: was trying with the size. I think, I think he'll
Speaker 5: probably swing it the other way and go small soon.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And again, this was a textbook sort of team effort
Speaker 4: here from the Celtics, because you're right, no one had
Speaker 4: like a dominant game, but everybody was just good. It
Speaker 4: felt like smart hitting five threes and Tatum with the
Speaker 4: twenty one. You guys said, you know, shooting fifty percent
Speaker 4: from the floor. Brown didn't shoot well but still hit threes.
Speaker 4: Obviously is a positive out there. Kemba totally fine. Four
Speaker 4: threes Tice on the boards, time Lord five for five.
Speaker 4: I mean that's big. That's found money right there, giving
Speaker 4: them ten points used to win. Sorry, that sounds a
Speaker 4: huge wind Melton that he had.
Speaker 2: That was shades of Lebron spinning the ball on the
Speaker 2: sideline against the Raptors.
Speaker 1: How dare you?
Speaker 4: And then not even Brad Wannamaker. Yeah, hitting a couple
Speaker 4: threes too. They they really got contributions from basically everybody
Speaker 4: that played in this game. So a really nice win
Speaker 4: for the Celtics and we'll see what happens moving forward.
Speaker 4: I'm a little concerned. I'll be honest, the Bean Town boys,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be wearing a green hat by the end
Speaker 4: of this. I can see it now. Maybe that's what
Speaker 4: that's the pick and payoff here. If the Raptors lose.
Speaker 3: This, thet.
Speaker 4: I have a green hat. That's a fine one. All right,
Speaker 4: let's keep it going here. Got some news quickly thunderguard
Speaker 4: Dennis Ruder and Rockets forward PJ. Tucker were fined twenty
Speaker 4: five thousand dollars each after their altercation in Game five
Speaker 4: over the weekend. NBA executive Kiki vandwe announced the punishment
Speaker 4: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Kiki doesn't love it. Would you punch it?
Speaker 4: Bead you Red Dennis Tuckers. So yeah, twenty five thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: just a fine, no suspension, Trey, Yes, Keets.
Speaker 1: I appreciated the tweet.
Speaker 2: Man, A honk will get you a game, but a
Speaker 2: punch is the twenty five thousand dollars fine ridiculous to me.
Speaker 2: Ridiculous to me, But trust me, I would rather much
Speaker 2: rather get honked then punched. A honk, you know, a
Speaker 2: honk fifty to fifty It might actually feel all right,
Speaker 2: but a punch one hundred percent that hurts.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a yeah, because we talked about Truder
Speaker 4: getting a game way back when he was a rookie
Speaker 4: with the Hawks, and he did more of a honk
Speaker 4: sort of punch on cousins, if you want to call
Speaker 4: it that. But the league said in the statement Truder
Speaker 4: was fine for making contact to the groin area, Okay, duh,
Speaker 4: And it said Tucker was fined for quote approaching Shrewder
Speaker 4: and making contact with him in escalation of the altercation.
Speaker 4: But that is contact with the guard did not meet
Speaker 4: the standout for a head butt.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So do you remember we were talking about Jiannis and
Speaker 4: I brought up how woes he turned it? Ahead bump
Speaker 4: not a head butt that I think is the definition
Speaker 4: of a head bump is what PJ.
Speaker 1: Tucker did hear? Not a head butt.
Speaker 4: Head bump didn't get.
Speaker 3: An Yeah, okay, good to know in future reference will
Speaker 3: have a bump or a butt. Yes, I have to
Speaker 3: figure it out, but I'm happy with that. I think
Speaker 3: twenty five thousand h is fine. And you know how
Speaker 3: many NMH MANSKEP products you could probably with eight thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Okay, jeez, you good for sure, especially with the discounts.
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Speaker 4: you got your wish, though you were you were concerned
Speaker 4: that if you know, Shrewder got a game, then this
Speaker 4: thing was a wrap. At least these both guys are
Speaker 4: going to play here as the Rockets leade the series
Speaker 4: three too with the thunder, you know, trying to stay
Speaker 4: alive here on Monday.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dennis Shreudter has been so good for okay, see
Speaker 5: it's uh, he's been their best player, so yeah, we
Speaker 5: definitely needed him out there. He's been smooth, he's been buttery,
Speaker 5: he's been feathery. I love watching him play when he's
Speaker 5: this good, and he seems to be, you know, other
Speaker 5: than Chris Paul pulling up into the mid range, the
Speaker 5: only guy who can really get to the rim, Shay
Speaker 5: Gil just Alexander, your man Skeets just hasn't I don't
Speaker 5: know who he is. He can't handle and he gets
Speaker 5: beaten on defense when you know that's he's good at it.
Speaker 5: I don't know what's what's going on other than this
Speaker 5: just being his first experience here as a starter. But
Speaker 5: he was, you know, we expected like he was with
Speaker 5: the Clippers last year and hit hit big shots, you know,
Speaker 5: as a supporting player. Obviously very different in his role
Speaker 5: now he's more of a prominent guy. But I don't know,
Speaker 5: it doesn't look like shake gild justs Alexander whatsoever.
Speaker 1: No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4: He's played better today for them to get this to
Speaker 4: game seven. I think I figured it out though. I
Speaker 4: think you can only have one Canadian dominating at a
Speaker 4: particular time. So Jamal Murray right now has all that
Speaker 4: the Canada power. He's got the juice. SGA is running
Speaker 4: on empty. It's like you and I task we never
Speaker 4: both have a great show here.
Speaker 1: One of us is always bringing it the oh. I
Speaker 1: mean just it's a Canadian thing. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're probably right. We can't hog the spotlight. You
Speaker 5: go ahead here, Okay, well yeah.
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Speaker 4: let's get to tweet.
Speaker 1: Of the night.
Speaker 5: Tweet out the night wow twitet.
Speaker 4: Okay, we got a fun tweet of the night here
Speaker 4: the other day, I guess it was yesterday or tweeted
Speaker 4: the night was h well, it was poop related. It
Speaker 4: was deuce related, so we had to follow that up.
Speaker 4: We were talking about George hills pregame routine of taking
Speaker 4: a shit. So tonight's or today's three to the night
Speaker 4: from last night, it's from the poop to the pit
Speaker 4: Smith between this photo, you saw Luca drink in this
Speaker 4: uh you know, oddly colored beverage for big hydration and
Speaker 4: bigger taste. Reached for the cool, smooth taste of pists.
Speaker 1: Because it does look like Luca's drinking over there, little
Speaker 1: playoff pe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because I don't know if it makes.
Speaker 1: Apple, I mean apple juice apple.
Speaker 3: Because he's drinking out of an aquafina bottle. Usually they
Speaker 3: have their own water bottle, so you don't see it
Speaker 3: like this. So yeah, what what did he just grab
Speaker 3: that from someone else?
Speaker 1: I mean, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think as well, like you know, so
Speaker 3: like people seem to have gotten a bit away from
Speaker 3: the gatoray to these last few years, people are just
Speaker 3: drinking straight water, So I don't know what. Maybe it's
Speaker 3: some Slovenian mix that he used to drink in Europe
Speaker 3: for really, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 4: It's it is interesting. It sort of looks like stuff
Speaker 4: you've you know, you've consumed before in the office. Lee,
Speaker 4: I'm not, well, I've seen you drinking stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3: So and that's why I'm okay with lucat doing. I
Speaker 3: want to try it if that's piss and he likes it,
Speaker 3: you know, apparently, did you know? Apparently, because you lose
Speaker 3: so many nutrients through your urination, a lot of times
Speaker 3: boxes and fighters and stuff actually drink their piss because
Speaker 3: they want to get those nutrients back into their body.
Speaker 5: That's a myth. That's a myth.
Speaker 1: I've seen I remember seeing it.
Speaker 3: I seen it one time in a documentary and I'm like,
Speaker 3: the guy was there and he's drinking his own piss.
Speaker 5: Well, the myth is that like if you have no
Speaker 5: access to water, that you can drink your own urine,
Speaker 5: which is fine, you can to a point, but then
Speaker 5: you I think you get poisoned basically with ammonia or
Speaker 5: whatever it is. You wouldn't die, But no one's drinking
Speaker 5: their piss for any other reason other else to drink.
Speaker 3: This is from the BBC. Okay, while drinking a small
Speaker 3: amount of urine is unlikely to be hazardous to your health,
Speaker 3: there is always, says, not enough modern evidence, but people, people,
Speaker 3: people still do it. I'll see it.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 4: We are not recommending anybody to drink your own piss. Okay,
Speaker 4: I just want that on the reck.
Speaker 3: What about a piss and payoff? We play like pisce roulette.
Speaker 3: We all piss into a cup, we put it around.
Speaker 1: Do you think you would be able to identify your
Speaker 1: own roulette?
Speaker 4: Did I have Asperius?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: Then you'd be tanking though, wouldn't you if you rigged
Speaker 3: it like that?
Speaker 1: For sure? For sure?
Speaker 4: All right, yeah, well we'll tune in tomorrow whether we
Speaker 4: could complete the trifecta we had the dump. We now
Speaker 4: have the piss. What would be the third thing I
Speaker 4: get related blood?
Speaker 3: There's one other there's one other thing, but I don't
Speaker 3: think we want to talk about.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, save it second.
Speaker 4: So thank you for having tweet of the night there
Speaker 4: from at Corbinate Smith that was going around or was
Speaker 4: having a laugh?
Speaker 1: What was he drinking? Look crazy? Okay?
Speaker 4: Test set up today's games for us. We only have
Speaker 4: two on today.
Speaker 5: We have to doubleheader on TNT, some good ones. We
Speaker 5: talked about Houston. Okay, see there briefly, Will Houston just
Speaker 5: leave loud Dort open? Yes, Well, what's lou Dort gonna do?
Speaker 5: Are they going to take loud Dort off and throwing
Speaker 5: Dennis Shrewder there early? Bring him bring him in early
Speaker 5: like they did in the second half. Ah, some coaching
Speaker 5: fun there in that game, but also the earlier one.
Speaker 5: Round two starting this is great. We got round one
Speaker 5: and round two at the same time. Miami and Milwaukee.
Speaker 5: Everybody's hot, tisty, very tasty. Everybody's A lot of people
Speaker 5: are taking Miami to upset Milwaukee. I think we were
Speaker 5: three to one trade taking Milwaukee, the other three taking
Speaker 5: Miami in the series. Jeez, just can't wait. Can't wait
Speaker 5: for ant thirty Eastern start.
Speaker 4: I know, I love that there's no d games anymore.
Speaker 1: You got those nightcaps for us. Also, the heat.
Speaker 4: Haven't played in like a week, right, It's been been
Speaker 4: a long time, so I mean, I wonder if that
Speaker 4: affects them at all, because they swept. Obviously, Bucks had
Speaker 4: to go another game and we had the break and
Speaker 4: play there, so I think it's been a while, so
Speaker 4: we'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm excited.
Speaker 4: You're right, I'm excited for that series to start, Heat Bucks,
Speaker 4: and then we'll see if we get a game seven.
Speaker 4: Any any predictions, Lee, Uh, let's say.
Speaker 3: The thun to drag it at to seven. And let's
Speaker 3: say let's say the Hate get this one started to
Speaker 3: get a really spicy.
Speaker 4: Someone's full of piss and vinegar. I'm very exciting.
Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Lee, don't you always say you don't want
Speaker 2: to drink Budweiser because it tastes like piss, And now
Speaker 2: you're just volunteering to drink other people's piss.
Speaker 3: I would rather drink other people's pists than Budwiser. I'll
Speaker 3: say that much.
Speaker 1: We're never getting a Budwiser sponsors.
Speaker 3: God don't want that money. Get out of you, Bud.
Speaker 4: But if we get something like that just related products,
Speaker 4: yeah we're in. If we get what product piss related product.
Speaker 4: I don't know, something you can suddenly pee into your
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Speaker 5: How do you follow all that up? Thanks for joining us,
Speaker 5: and remember, if you're smelling asparagus in urine, it's actually
Speaker 5: a land in your nose that allows you to smell it.
Speaker 5: It has nothing to do with the urine. It's just
Speaker 5: you're special. You're special.
Speaker 1: Wild it is.
Speaker 5: I have it?
Speaker 1: Does anyone else?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do for sure, because it happens immediately first.
Speaker 4: Crazy, it's crazy man. Yeah, we're Pitts brothers. Buddy drinks.
Speaker 4: I can drink your pets every day. I don't you
Speaker 4: happy every minute.
Speaker 5: It's been so long with your.
Speaker 1: Funa waiting for.
Speaker 5: It's happened already.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be grey.