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Speaker 1: No, almost beat up to your female's father.

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Speaker 2: Really mouse people have tried to do that in something.

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Speaker 2: He's a character he.

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Speaker 1: Beat up. I have to tell you what ho fuck you?

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Speaker 1: What what up? Yardist? Joe cracked the dogs your boy, Jada.

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Speaker 3: You know what it is that Joe and Jayden show

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Speaker 3: every show legendary, every show iconic, and when that's what

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Speaker 3: we're doing today.

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Speaker 1: We're talking boxing.

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean when you think of boxing,

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Speaker 3: this guy right here is putting on the biggest fights.

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Speaker 1: He got the whole wave of boxing.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Ladies and gentlemen, let's make some noise for

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Speaker 3: our Pardoner, our guests.

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Speaker 1: Eddie earned.

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Speaker 4: Thank you well, Eddie. Yeah, I've been around you twenty

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Speaker 4: thirty times. Yes, we never got to speak.

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Speaker 1: No. Really, I mind my business.

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Speaker 4: And when two friends and two people do business, and

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Speaker 4: I personally don't understand the business. I just support the

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Speaker 4: person in mind my business, just love them and whatever

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Speaker 4: the case may be. When I see you at the

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Speaker 4: Bologa fights, you know we're responsible for taking them to

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Speaker 4: where he got. I just be like, I respect him

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Speaker 1: You know. We like that.

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Speaker 4: We're like the rap rapper, superstar veterans that now we

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Speaker 4: come on here and we talk like Shaquille O'Neill and Charles.

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Speaker 4: So that's how we feel we are. And so you're

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Speaker 4: pretty much the same. You know, boxes trust you because

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Speaker 4: to talk, right, the mean Street said the UK. He

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Speaker 4: was a bus ad Thros Yeah a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I mean you said something earlier when you were talking

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Speaker 2: off camera about your kids. You said about your daughter,

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Speaker 2: she's a Neapo baby, yeah, right, which is really.

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Speaker 1: I guess I am as well.

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Speaker 2: So my dad came from you know, I guess you

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Speaker 1: Right. His dad was a bus driver. You know, he

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Speaker 1: came from no money.

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Speaker 2: But he was like a real again what you guys

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Speaker 2: he just wanted to make money. His mom, my nan,

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Speaker 2: through snooker, which he won't know about, and then he

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Speaker 1: My dad, so he's was Hall of fame from a

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Speaker 2: I mean he was one of the greatest boxing promoters

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Speaker 1: I fucking love Nasi everybody. I fucking love the men.

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Speaker 1: I never missed a fight. He was box office.

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Speaker 4: Remember he used to come in the flying carpet and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had so much ability. But you know, it's

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Speaker 1: So. Next thing, he had like six or seven brothers.

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Speaker 2: Competitors, right. I was in the room, I was listening,

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Speaker 2: When I got to like twelve or thirteen, I thought, no,

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Speaker 2: My dad always said to me, because he was petrified

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Speaker 2: You work your bollocks off every day twenty four seven.

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Speaker 1: I took him down. He was and it was like,

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Speaker 2: So I was raised in boxing, and I never wanted

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Speaker 2: I've seen everything born is in my life. I've been

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Speaker 1: I see it greatest UK box.

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Speaker 2: Of water probably joke Alzaggie, I mean all times strong.

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Speaker 2: But this is a guy that was undefeated, like coming

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Speaker 2: The props that he deserved because he was from Wales.

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Speaker 1: He was a little bit low key, you know. Lennox

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Speaker 2: Great heavywell and let's it me winter it Yeah from

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Speaker 4: I was playing with him and he hit me boom

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Speaker 4: playing around. I was like, fuck, this ship hurts. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a little body shot for no reason, you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: Joe think he tough Boom. I said, oh ship, then ups,

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Speaker 4: Oh what's the guy? I think they made a movie

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Speaker 4: Mickey Wood Nicky in Ward? I mean American Irish out

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So he wasn't from the UK, he was

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Speaker 1: He was Irish. Yel fucking Mickey Ward. They would come

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Speaker 4: Let me tell you something, Ireland, they fucking come for

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Speaker 2: You know what, The best atmosphere I think I've ever

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Speaker 4: That was That's what I'm referring for Reacond, That's what

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Speaker 2: I promoted that far right and it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: Not half Irish, I forgot.

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Speaker 4: I was in New York. No, not even half half

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Speaker 4: to be generous. Puerto Ricans ain't bottom tickets like that,

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Speaker 4: because the fucking we walked up in there, I thought

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Speaker 4: I was going to hit him the bongo. That's suing

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Speaker 4: Oh you go to them soccer. They got the hooligans

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Speaker 4: but Mickey ward Man, it was somebody I really and Gotti. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, you know I don't gamble much, but one

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Speaker 4: And I always love those style of boxes. I've always

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Speaker 4: that Diego Corale.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what you want to watch as a

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Speaker 2: fire fan, isn't it. I mean, you know it's not

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Speaker 2: always the greatest. But the problem is sometimes I'm guilty

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Speaker 2: if you really trying to do it the right way,

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Speaker 2: you don't really want to be an entertaining partner.

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Speaker 1: You're going to be a smile shone to win and

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Speaker 1: be small, don't get hit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, watch really So me as a promoter, I'm

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Speaker 2: a little bit conflicted because I'm like, I want you

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Speaker 1: That's what I need to do. But also, but you know,

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Speaker 2: But number two, he never fought so much defensively like

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Speaker 2: But let's break that down. Yeah, what he did was

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Speaker 1: Now that even like that, he's players. I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: And now for listen, baseball's baseball. This is a fight

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Speaker 4: But you know what you want to say, same thing

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Speaker 4: It went so viral and I didn't even think it

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Speaker 2: Gonna start, just walked out the ring.

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Speaker 4: Referee, the referee in this corner, this this is a

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Speaker 1: Home boy said, he walked out, So tell me educate

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Speaker 4: No, we don't want to because it's one Jadakiss. It's

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Speaker 1: So in that situation, why has he chosen you gotta

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Speaker 4: I've been challenged by guys that were with my ass

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Speaker 4: it talking about Ireland, the Irish forget Everlast, got challenged

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Speaker 1: I knew he was going to get his boots smoke.

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Speaker 2: But when you come out, right, it's a business as well, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's not, it's not. I don't think it's great for business.

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Speaker 1: even they're a much smarter move. It didn't he didn't

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Speaker 4: But what we're saying is he's saying in hip hop,

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Speaker 1: If you win, it super help. But if you lose.

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Speaker 2: But isn't this isn't this a difference between your reputation,

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Speaker 4: I came out when my mother was calling talking about

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Speaker 4: was like, he's going against a guy who sold thirty

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Speaker 4: And I came outside to me, you always gotta come out.

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Speaker 4: You get like I said, everlast, eminem, ever last, got challenge.

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Speaker 4: Let's jump around, jump around, jump up and get down.

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Speaker 4: And he battled them and them and we gotta tell

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Speaker 4: you how that west?

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Speaker 1: He just said, it's the Irish. He's Irish. He came out.

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Speaker 1: You know, let's talk to Turkey. I like this guy,

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Speaker 1: yeah right?

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Speaker 4: And did he just come boxing? Number one boxing fan.

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Speaker 1: I guess what do you call those guys who really

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, he was a guy that was running

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Speaker 2: Right, I was like, man, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: what is this? Fury is a world heavyweight champion. He's

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Speaker 1: What a joke.

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Speaker 2: Blah blah blah, this and this is all being done

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Speaker 2: next thing the fight happens. I'm a good fight. Actually

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Speaker 2: in Ghana, I thought wonder fight.

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Speaker 2: It was a very so so the fight finishes, and

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Speaker 2: then people are saying to me, you know this guy Turkey,

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Speaker 1: That's out. He's the guy. I'm like, no, I don't

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Speaker 2: I said, why, I said, because you're slagging off the event.

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Speaker 2: So he's in London. I'm like, Turkey, I understand you.

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Speaker 2: Let me know when's good. I'll meet you while you're

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Speaker 2: the next day I fall. We'll just go for one more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me know when suits scene nothing. Oh god.

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Speaker 2: Then all of a sudden they start talking about a

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Speaker 1: Then I get a.

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Speaker 2: Phone call from one of his guys is like, this

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Speaker 1: I'm let me just.

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Speaker 2: Check my diary. I'd already started the engine. Anyway, go

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Speaker 1: So they caught Turkey has excellency. He's part of the

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Speaker 2: But that's yeah. So go into the hotel room lobby.

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Speaker 2: You will be called up soon. I go up there,

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Speaker 2: it's like eight people in the room. Big so for like,

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Speaker 1: My blah blah blah blah. I'll see okay.

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Speaker 2: He'll use me and our company and my fighters, but

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because look so deceive it.

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Speaker 4: I don't have a muscle, but I knocked you out,

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Speaker 1: He had not love Taysteon Fury.

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Speaker 4: I remember the day he won that fight, and then

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Speaker 4: I'm a I'm a huge fan. Is he coming back

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Speaker 4: to bikes talking about it? I mean he retires every

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Speaker 2: And like he's done with boxing and now he's training

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Speaker 2: in Thailand. He's like the most motive he's ever been.

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Speaker 2: So now I can see it, like he's training now

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Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? He's got the fight.

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Speaker 1: It's like, this is what I love to do. I

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Speaker 4: The craziest thing is I believe that's in all sports.

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Speaker 4: These guys are like Gladie Eaters. And when they walk

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Speaker 4: then when they retire.

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Speaker 1: But that isn't that the same for anything? Isn't that

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Speaker 1: the same for you guys as well? I mean we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I almost kill Smokey Robinson when you sweak, he's still.

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Speaker 1: Put to live. I'm talking about when you do.

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Speaker 1: Why do you want to keep going? Well? I love it.

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Speaker 4: Plus we have huge bills, so you know, our family

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Speaker 4: Fad Joe has tried to be a fake accountant slash

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Speaker 4: let's let's minimalize.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a word for this called minimalize.

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Speaker 4: I tried everything, they looking at new, bigger houses and

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Speaker 1: Like because I'm a dreamer.

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Speaker 4: If I got a million dollars, I buy a ten

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Speaker 4: You know, I believe, you know, I invest in.

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Speaker 4: I'll find the money. I'm gonna make it now. I

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Speaker 4: finally got a sense of peace, and they don't want peace.

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Speaker 4: They just keep showing me bigger houses and bigger yards

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Speaker 1: We good chill. They don't want peace.

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Speaker 4: They say, Yo, you need bigger so that you could

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Speaker 4: But I do not want to see Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, howd up?

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Speaker 4: Even ten fifteen years ago? Mike Tyson at the mansion

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Speaker 4: That wasn't like he wasn't back in the jacks.

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Speaker 1: But how can you earn that much?

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Speaker 2: Roy Jones a great now, But how can you earn

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Speaker 1: It was crazy. Fighters now much.

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Speaker 2: You know, when this Canelo guy looks like, oh Canelo,

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629
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Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's ready the bank of the sport.

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Speaker 2: But he's smart, right, and he's taking his time.

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Speaker 2: So Canelo can get his money from him, from him,

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Speaker 1: He doesn't matter. You know.

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Speaker 4: I'm a sucker for a good fight. So oh, I'm

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Speaker 4: going Faddie hearns. And then when they showed the Mexican

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, Edy got a fucking problem.

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Speaker 4: This guy's carrying fucking eighteen wheeler tires up a mountain.

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Speaker 4: So I walked out my house every day to fight.

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656
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Speaker 4: viral in the hood. Like you know, y'all, Fat Joe

657
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: got his ass whipped by subject Like whoo, that's a

658
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 4: bad day for you. When you punched the guy with

659
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 4: the kitchen sink. Now, try to tell boxes that all

660
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 4: the time. I said, listen, you can have the power.

661
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 4: But when you hit somebody with all you got and

662
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: that motherfucker looked at you like hello, you got a

663
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 4: real battle going on that night with you.

664
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: So you saw you was you was a little kid,

665
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: you studied boxing.

666
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 4: I don't know if you remember it, because you definitely

667
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: got to be a bigger historian than me. But there

668
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: was a fight that Floyd Mayweather was losing till about.

669
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: The sixth round. He switched up the whole style and

670
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: he won the fight. He beat the shit out of

671
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: the guy.

672
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: And then when they interviewed him, he said, I don't

673
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 4: know I'm saying the wrong name, but he said one

674
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 4: of them legends like he was like Jack Dempsey in

675
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 4: nineteen forty nine. I went back to the video tape

676
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 4: that my father played me when he was bouncing the

677
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: is it also in boxing, it's more like a physical

678
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: strength or IQ.

679
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: Make the best fighters.

680
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: I mean IQ that you've got got, like this weekend

681
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: for example, Shaquer Stevenson probably one of the best IQ's.

682
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: The other one is Terrence Crawford.

683
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: Right, these guys they just see it, you know, so

684
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: during the fight, they know exactly what you're going to do.

685
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: They know exactly what to do.

686
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 2: They sit on the ropes, you know that the pulse

687
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: rate's not moving, the calm, they're slipping shots. There's just

688
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: different styles. Ultimately, the style to watch is the guy

689
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: that's going in there and having the war, you know.

690
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 2: For the purists, which I'm probably a purist as a

691
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: pipe man, I watched those guys like Crawford and Chicour

692
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: and Floyd probably the greatest generation. So can't Joe. I mean,

693
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: the IQ's on another level. But you can go in

694
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 2: there and what doesn't matter what you bring, what style

695
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 2: you bring, how you switch it up during a fight.

696
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 2: He will be out of control the situation in the moment,

697
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 2: and that's when like you know, like I said, Shakur

698
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: is probably that new guy who's capable of doing that,

699
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: and tiar Femo.

700
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 4: Did he got to your female? I think I think

701
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 4: to your female is more bad battle tested.

702
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like if I'm tr Femo, I'm

703
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: sticking it on. What does that mean for regular I'm

704
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: pressing it on. Yeah, because they're both great athletes, They've

705
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: both got great i Q.

706
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: They're both quite.

707
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 2: Reactive and faint and twitching and and like you know,

708
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: great movement. But being Shakur at that game is a

709
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: very difficult game to play and will probably lead to

710
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 2: not the most entertaining if I'm if I'm tier Femo.

711
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: Don't get me wrong, If you're aggressive against Chapur, that's

712
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 2: also a problem.

713
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: That's when you get her as account he wants, you know.

714
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: But if you're fast and you're powerful, I don't know

715
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: even if it's possible to beat your cook. But I

716
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 2: think if I'm Tea Femo in this fight and I'm

717
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: the bigger guy, you.

718
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Dirty it up, You're gonna don't.

719
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm trying to make it a fight rather than

720
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 2: trying to just out box Hif you ain't gonna out

721
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 2: box your cook.

722
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: He's a genius the fight. This guy right here, he's

723
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 4: a slick one. He wants front row seats to every event.

724
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 4: And if you don't know how to tell you live

725
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 4: on TV. He doesn't get the same in this podcast,

726
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 4: does he either? Bingo, he's sixty six, he's.

727
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: A little bit under the weather. Yeah, yeah, no, he

728
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: ain't shot. He ain't shot. You got any crosses for

729
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the loved and Eddio. All I've seen doing this is this.

730
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 1: When you're talking, he's that erdie.

731
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 4: The man's on the clock. If he bunched in, he's

732
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 4: getting paid whether he says something you don't. The man

733
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 4: is sitting there.

734
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: You guys have got to make your predictions and calls

735
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: for the weekend right Madison Square Garden.

736
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: And he's great. He's forer no on the playoffs and football.

737
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: This is box. But I have to listening to you now.

738
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 3: I was I think I gotta switch it up because

739
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 3: if she Cour is able to be shou.

740
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Cour, he will win it. Fighting me born not necessarily boring.

741
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: When you see two guys scared, they hit each other

742
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: and they're thinking over he's.

743
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: Just what you said. First of all. I'm gonna use

744
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: that for all my media this week. If Chaquur is

745
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: allowed to be Chakur, he can't, so you've got to

746
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: make him not be shuk.

747
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,840
Speaker 1: I won't credit you for any of that, but thank you.

748
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: Don't happen. And they've been taking my line for years somewhere,

749
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: but you're right, so you've got to make him not

750
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: be so with you.

751
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: But now, uh, I'm not if you got any infinity,

752
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: it's Brooklyn against new No.

753
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: Almost beat up to your female's father.

754
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: Really, most people have tried to do that in something.

755
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: He's a character he.

756
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: Beat. I have to tell your fop, I fuck you up.

757
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, Pops, I fucked you up. You

758
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 1: got some flash too, Eddie, that's the time to throw it.

759
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Just throw follow on the play. You got it? Oh.

760
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 4: Father just came at me screaming at me one day,

761
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 4: talking about Ega Balanga ain't the only Latino and you

762
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 4: know you're the biggest Latino and you don't co sign

763
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 4: my son and this and that. He was just talking

764
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,439
Speaker 4: crazy and I was like, like, really crazy. I was like, yo, Pop,

765
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 4: we'll fuck you up in here, Like I don't know

766
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 4: if you know, like don't play with me, and then

767
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 4: you know, he hit us back the next day and

768
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 4: was like, yo, I'm sorry, you must have been ahome shit,

769
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 4: Like you know what.

770
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: I mean, because you know what, the fathers are real

771
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: passionate about this.

772
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 2: But that's he's he's USh. You heard this a million times? Yeah, yeah,

773
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: a million you're almost just yeah, because I had a

774
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: fight we did ti femo against George Cambosa's when Cambosas

775
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: beat him at the garden and they blamed me. I

776
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: didn't even have even fire. I want a person it

777
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 2: And the Dad's like, you motherfucker.

778
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you just got got to do with me?

779
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: And he's like he's a very emotional guy. She like

780
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 1: his daddy's.

781
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: I think he's got a good heart, but he's a

782
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 2: little bit crazy. He's going to be a major factor

783
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 2: in this fight. He can't afford to lose his mind

784
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 2: in this fight the dad and start being emotional, you

785
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

786
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: They've got to be They've got to be on it,

787
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: especially against your cook.

788
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 4: The old school ship in the Bronx now where Olivia's

789
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: he's the people's hope. He's triangle keep his father out

790
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: of here, up telling you know, the old school. I guess, father,

791
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. The man was screaming on me like

792
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 4: adaka Trasi your pups.

793
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: The story you know that he told us.

794
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: I saw him tell a story to someone recently, said

795
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 2: that he put it on you.

796
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 1: You're a femal. Yeah, No's dad said. You know.

797
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 2: In fact, Joe come at me. I said to him,

798
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 2: fuck you, and then apparently you just turned your back

799
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: and walked off. I didn't think that was true.

800
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: I'm the most respectable guy you ever seen in your life,

801
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 4: especially for somebody's father. This man, this is what we're doing, yo, Eddie.

802
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 4: This man came at me like yo, fuck dad. Belonga

803
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 4: ain't the only lacked you know. My son is this

804
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 4: and this and that. Un fortunate enough because the kid

805
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 4: is nice. He got knocked out two days later, right

806
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 4: where he was at in Atlanta. He touched the canvas

807
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 4: to your female touched the canvas two days later, right

808
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 4: after he turned the mother. He threatened me his father.

809
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 4: Two days later, he touched the canvas for the first time.

810
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 4: I said, what the fuck they called me. We was

811
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 4: in Canada or something. They was like, yo, homeboy touched

812
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 4: the canvas. I said, you know what, father, he was

813
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: talking that shit. I was with fucking held the barge

814
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 4: when he was cursing me out and the fucking barge.

815
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 4: That motherfucker Damn clarkead rest in peace with us.

816
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Everybody gonna be tuned into the fight this Saturday, and

817
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,959
Speaker 3: hard Rock Bet is doing the special Joe and Jay

818
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 3: the Prophet boost on the Chaquaur and t O Femo fight.

819
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 3: So you know what I mean, be considerate when you

820
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 3: think of who you're gonna take this Saturday.

821
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: Who's the winner of this fight? Chess, because you always Saturdays.

822
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: This Saturday decided squid on design your feo Coors Stevens.

823
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: I thought you were No. I'm just giving it, you

824
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean. After talking to you, I gotta

825
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: go with your call, man, You know what I mean.

826
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 3: I gotta go with your call just because you told

827
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: me how much of a genius for boxing is and

828
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: if he's able to bet him, it's gonna be a

829
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: tough night for till I'm going to your call.

830
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: Knew because you were about to have a fight with

831
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 1: his bibe. Listen, I don't want no beef for Tia Femo.

832
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 4: You want to know what I'm going for TiO Femo,

833
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 4: but never bet where I go because I never win.

834
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you.

835
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 4: Right now, anybody, I'll yell out. I want once who

836
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 4: I want Terror's conference?

837
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 1: Now, I put a bet. They don't take my bets?

838
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: How about that? How about that? They won't even take

839
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: my bets. I call all the bookies.

840
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,720
Speaker 4: They like, yo, yo, your money's not good. I swear

841
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 4: to God, they don't want me to bet. They might

842
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: win and you go start fucking losing all your money,

843
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: like yo, No, they won't let me back. I lost,

844
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 4: but long I against Canelo, like I really believed it,

845
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 4: like I really bet, like twenty thirty thousand on. No,

846
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 4: I'm not lying, like I really better than lost it

847
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 4: one fight I lost. On I'm sitting there with Chris

848
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 4: Gotti in Vegas, and uh well, one of my greatest,

849
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 4: my favorite fighter, Chris Gotty. And what's the guy he

850
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: used to win all the fucking he was banned from

851
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 4: Vegas because he was the best gambler.

852
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: Peel life.

853
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 4: I love it, and these motherfuckers don't stop, y'all. Let's bet,

854
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: let's bet. Let's bet, said, I don't bet, let's bet,

855
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 4: let's bet, Let's bet.

856
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I don't bet. Let's bet. Let's bet.

857
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 4: And one of my favorite fighters of all time is

858
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 4: rest in Peace Diego Corlis.

859
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: And I used to.

860
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: Love how he get knocked down to get up and

861
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: this and this and that, and I said, all right,

862
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 4: twenty thousand. They called him at twenty thousand, Diego Boom

863
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 4: through the ropes. The guy knocked him like, I mean safe,

864
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 4: like out the ring, like you're never seen in your life,

865
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 4: the way he fell out that ring.

866
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: I was at that fight by I lost in a

867
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: split second. Can I take it back?

868
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: They came to my room about twenty times that day.

869
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 4: I could not leave Vegas without giving him a twenty grand.

870
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 4: They did not trust me, And so teller Hoyat what

871
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 4: the shit he does?

872
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: Now? What do you you know?

873
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 4: We got a lot of rappers trying to be relevant

874
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: doing the most amazing clown ship we ever seen in

875
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 4: our life.

876
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: What do you think about Della Hooya with all this

877
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: ship he's doing. I mean, it's an interesting technique, you know.

878
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: I've got to say, like, in terms of active promoters,

879
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 2: he's out there, I mean he's he's promoted. But the

880
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 2: clap back Thursdays and all this it ruffles feathers that

881
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: can sometimes fragment relationships and you know, sometimes someone I'm

882
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: not going to.

883
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: Work with him or whatever.

884
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 2: But you know, legendary fire and I mean obviously the

885
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 2: big the big coup with with your boy Edgar.

886
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: You know, for the wins that fight, he's the man. Yeah,

887
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: but I got wins that fight.

888
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: He's the man shut down de la Hoyer to the

889
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 4: point of where that's a good point where somebody got

890
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 4: to choose to be the villain to somebody that choose

891
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 4: to be the hero.

892
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: You know, it could ruffle the feathers of the industry,

893
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: but people are talking about it, and conversation is key,

894
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: you know in the world where at least people.

895
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: Are out there talking about it.

896
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 2: People are liking it, people are hating it, people are

897
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 2: loving it, you know, but it's better than doing nothing.

898
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got.

899
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: Lets he have a bad case of like he can't

900
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: fight no more because he's older and he's a little upset.

901
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,360
Speaker 4: But he's tell Owyer because it looks like if he

902
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 4: could get in the ring, if you started senior citizenship

903
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: his fight where you can you know one thing you.

904
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: Could never take away from him was he was one

905
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: of the greatest fighters of all time and you know,

906
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 2: for everybody. So probably sometimes he's looking at some of

907
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: these guys now thinking I would have bought you know

908
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 2: what I mean.

909
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: So what's done? He's done. But obviously he's.

910
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: Big fall out with Canelow. Those guys were together for

911
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: years and then Canello sued him, and you know, it

912
00:45:45,920 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 2: all got a bit ugly and nasty.

913
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: And we got that in hip.

914
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,959
Speaker 4: But yeah, well with me, I stopped discovering the larady

915
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 4: and invest in. So similar to your father, I grew

916
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 4: up in the connect what you call that, the projects,

917
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 4: the connect counselor counselor of state, here's the projects. And

918
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 4: I made a name for myself. But I grew up

919
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: dirt poor, like you would go through my family tree

920
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 4: maybe one hundred years.

921
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: None of us never had money.

922
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 4: And so I take pride in if I create this

923
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: opportunity for someone who is talented. But I'm gonna put

924
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 4: you in the right wounds, are gonna get you, the

925
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 4: right people to collaborate.

926
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna promote you.

927
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: And once I do that and you start becoming a

928
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 4: millionaire and making big money, then you start saying, fuck

929
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 4: fat Joe.

930
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,360
Speaker 1: He never did nothing me right. That put a bad

931
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: taste in my mouth.

932
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 4: And the thing they do pause, and the thing they

933
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 4: do in hip hop is is you could rest assure

934
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 4: that they're breaking out the second they can, the second

935
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: they see that light in the tunnel, when they say

936
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: I can do my own thing, I don't need this guy,

937
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: They're gone. And so there's really no real loyalty in

938
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 4: hip hop when it talks about spending money on the

939
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 4: artists and making the artists and you know, I see

940
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 4: it happens to you too. I mean, it must break

941
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 4: your heart, it does.

942
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 2: But you become accustomed to it because it's the game

943
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 2: and it's never going to change. Some people are loyal,

944
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: some people will respect what you've done for them, and others.

945
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 2: One it happens in boxing all the time, so there's

946
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 2: no point losing. My dad says to me, sometimes have

947
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 2: you fun like that sort of thing might happen and

948
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: I'll do an interview and I'll go listen.

949
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think, well, we did.

950
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 2: A lot for him, and maybe it wasn't recognized, but

951
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 2: good luck, good luck at his grip.

952
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: How that goes to me, I didn't fucking problem, you know,

953
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: my dad.

954
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 2: Retired from boxing to get out of the aggravation of

955
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 2: boxing because he was just he got like he just

956
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 2: thought all his fing.

957
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: I stopped signing people.

958
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 4: I could have signed people like Pitt Bull, Rick Ross,

959
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 4: the biggest artist in the world, but I was already

960
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:11,800
Speaker 4: so turned off.

961
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: Yo, why are you giving that fit? I'm telling you

962
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: the truth. Why are you giving that place?

963
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,280
Speaker 4: You know, I discovered I discovered Dj Callan, I discovered

964
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 4: Big Pond, I discovered all these guys. So I had

965
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: the opportunity signed these other guys and I passed on it.

966
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 4: And right now Rick Ross has his own yacht, his

967
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 4: own everything. He's the richest motherfucking the game. If I'd

968
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 4: have got one percent, I'd have been good. But I

969
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 4: was so turned off by the industry that I was like,

970
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 4: I'm tired of doing this.

971
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I'm tired of But.

972
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 2: It probably it probably gives you a bad reflection and

973
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: understanding of life because you think that's the normal.

974
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: So like in boxing, you just have to understand it

975
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: ain't normal.

976
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 2: And it actually can not make you a bad person,

977
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: but make you a little bit unhappy because you go,

978
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: do you know what, life's full of?

979
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: Arseholes?

980
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 2: I can't believe this guy is doing that, but not

981
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: everything in life is like that. But unfortunately boxing is

982
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: like that. Probably your industry the same. But if you

983
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 2: get if you allow it to play with your emotions,

984
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 2: you're going to be a miserable person.

985
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: You know.

986
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 4: Over year we get a big bad name for Don King,

987
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 4: right because you hear the story makee Tason be the

988
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 4: mob he allegedly stole his money, mate taking Tasa says that,

989
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 4: But Don.

990
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: King he's a legend out here. Well.

991
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,760
Speaker 2: Don King's probably away from the ethics, probably the greatest

992
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 2: promoter of all time. And the reason it is that

993
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 2: when there was a show in town, he made sure

994
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 2: you knew about it, right, And what he was was

995
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,400
Speaker 2: he was a performer as well, Right, he came out

996
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 2: there with the flags, wan't he like? I mean that

997
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 2: you knew he might invented branding and marketing every more.

998
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 2: I mean that was you know, but he'd be with.

999
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 4: The UK flag, the US, the UK when he got

1000
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 4: the few k up there.

1001
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: He don't give a fuck, Joe.

1002
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's still go right, he still has and

1003
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 2: still to this day he's the hardest person to deal with.

1004
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 2: But whenever I say there's a there's a guy who's

1005
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: a world cruiserweight champion, who's you red he should don King.

1006
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: I'm my fucking now, he's impossible, impossible to do a deal.

1007
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: Like he just can't help himself. Even now, he's like

1008
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: because he owned the whole game. He on the TV,

1009
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: the pay per view. Huh.

1010
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 4: He got that building over there in West Palm where

1011
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: the ship got the Donkey don King. Don King's a

1012
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 4: guy that when he dies, they're gonna run under that

1013
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: mattress sofa. They're gonna he's gonna be like, oh choppo,

1014
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 4: they'll break, They're gonna break the walls looking for some ship.

1015
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 4: Don King got cash. Nobody's ever seen like you talk

1016
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 4: about small face twenties, Yo, that motherfucker don King.

1017
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: I tell you a story. Were the first rappers.

1018
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: And every time I say this, you know they got

1019
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 4: a thing with me now on the internet like Fat

1020
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 4: Joe lives. But we're the first rappers to ever perform

1021
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: and bring a boxer in. So now all that bullshit,

1022
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,279
Speaker 4: you see what every box everybody we started it Me

1023
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: and Big Punt. Shout out to cal Knan Cheeto. Trinidad

1024
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 4: was my favorite boxer. Mama, at least my first, but

1025
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 4: the second was Tito trindidat Puerto Rican Power loved him

1026
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 4: to death. So he's fighting Dela Hoya. So I tell

1027
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 4: Carl Kanan, I know he knows Don King, and I'm like,

1028
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 4: can you introduce me to mister King. So he says, sure,

1029
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 4: you know, I'll be in Miami next week. We could

1030
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,120
Speaker 4: ride up together. So we ride up to Palm Beach

1031
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 4: wherever his shit. That's where I see the building, this, this, that.

1032
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 4: So daunt King's standing there. He got a guy playing

1033
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: the piano, and he's looking at the guy playing the piano.

1034
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 4: Maybe an hour or two. He doesn't say a word.

1035
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: Said there, Well, what the fuck you want? Like, hey,

1036
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 4: mister King, I been like, by the way, we're the

1037
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 4: biggest rappers on the earth. We just broke a record

1038
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 4: first Latino to sell two million. I said, we on fire.

1039
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: You understand what I'm saying, So, like, were the biggest ship.

1040
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,399
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there. He goes, how can I help you?

1041
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: Because I know you here had asked me for something.

1042
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 4: I said, well, mister King, you know we uh.

1043
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: We love Tito Trinidad with the number one rappers this

1044
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 1: and this and that.

1045
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I got Ricky Martin for that, I said,

1046
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 4: but you know this is fighting right, and Big Pun

1047
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 4: and Fat Joe. You know, it makes more sense for

1048
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 4: Tito Trinidad to come out with us, you know. But

1049
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 4: of course Ricky Monak, come on, everybody, Look we do

1050
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 4: that dunk. He had that ship, no no living like god,

1051
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: he's a legend. But what I'm trying to tell you

1052
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: is he was going that route. She sat there. I said, Yo,

1053
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: we're the biggest, we selling millions of records, this and that.

1054
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 4: Till he looks at me, So I think about it,

1055
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 4: leave your number, this, this, that. So when we left,

1056
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 4: he probably acts some grandchildren, some nephews. Yo, you know,

1057
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 4: Big Pun and Fat Joe. They was like, yo, them

1058
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 4: boys on fire, Like are you crazy? They really are

1059
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 4: the guys.

1060
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: He calls me up.

1061
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 4: He says, I'm gonna make it happen for you, but

1062
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 4: you gotta pay for all your own shit. I'm not

1063
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 4: spending a dollar on this shit.

1064
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: It's up.

1065
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: We said, all right. So we flew out the Vegas

1066
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: and we walked the Idolin. You know, Trinda that being

1067
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 4: big punt and that started all at Like I've seen

1068
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 4: people's eyes open up in the crowd like they've never

1069
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 4: seen a rapper rap with a boxer.

1070
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: And he won that night, Trinda, that won that night.

1071
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: And you know if I, if I boxed right, welcome

1072
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 4: to the Fat Joe and Jady's Joe, lose your new

1073
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: records and uh I five bucks And I knew I

1074
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 4: didn't have a shot I going there in that first

1075
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 4: second round with all I got to try to bring

1076
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: them with the kitchens, sink blow, you know, not just bullshit,

1077
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 4: and eventually you're gonna lose anyway.

1078
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: And then we see that over and over.

1079
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 4: In boxing when somebody drives like you know, you're about

1080
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: you know about that eight frown, they gonna.

1081
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: Stick that jet.

1082
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 2: Somebody that's saying that, someone says, you know, well done,

1083
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: you did just enough to lose.

1084
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

1085
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 2: That's what so many people get into a fight and

1086
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 2: they're like, you know what, losing on points ain't the

1087
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 2: end of the world. I can come again. So but

1088
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,239
Speaker 2: you never tried to win, did you really talked? With

1089
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: that hardest sport in the game. You lose one fight

1090
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 2: and that's it. You're a bump.

1091
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: Huh. Yeah, But I don't think.

1092
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: I think that's the perception to a lot of people

1093
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 2: try to protect the oh right, And really, if you're

1094
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: in good fights and you people want to watch you fight,

1095
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. You know, we're known for our competitive matchmaking.

1096
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:04,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes we had last Saturday, Andy Kruz, a Cuban. He's

1097
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: six and oh he fought the world champion twenty three

1098
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,919
Speaker 2: and oh, our guys, the Olympic gold medalist. He's only

1099
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,719
Speaker 2: had six fights, so we gambled. We lost a real

1100
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 2: close decision in a brilliant fight, and everyone's going, why'd

1101
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: you put him in that early?

1102
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: No?

1103
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: No, we all believe he was ready for that fight

1104
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 2: because he's an exceptional talent. But guess what, he was

1105
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 2: in a great fight. Everybody loved the fight. Everyone said,

1106
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 2: respect to you. You had six fights, you rolled the dice.

1107
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: Next fight he'd be back and guess what, his profile

1108
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: will be higher and we'll go again.

1109
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: So it doesn't don't get me wrong.

1110
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 2: You never want to lose, and you don't want to

1111
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 2: lose two men, But if you're in the great fights

1112
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,799
Speaker 2: and people remember those nights and those fights, it's not the.

1113
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: End of the world.

1114
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:52,839
Speaker 4: Somebody I really love Anthony Josh destroyed Jike. You biased too,

1115
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,399
Speaker 4: you with the UK like a motherfucker, Edie, I'll watch

1116
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 4: you had all the fights. He's like you like a

1117
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 4: little don king. You got your little silent like that. Yeah,

1118
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 4: that motherfucker.

1119
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: He looked like a.

1120
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 4: Greek gladiator compared to this guy. Recently he's in the

1121
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,800
Speaker 4: tragic accident. Now met his friends and great, how's he doing?

1122
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: Have you communicated with.

1123
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: Him last week? I went to see him just man

1124
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: so tracked.

1125
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 2: Like you said, we come off the back of the

1126
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fight, and it's been a tough year for

1127
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 2: him because he lost to the Why I got knocked

1128
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 2: out of the world title, I mean he took it

1129
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: that world to defeat. He's a very grave faced guy,

1130
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 2: super positive. The energy is unbelievad emotional. Yeah yeah, but

1131
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,359
Speaker 2: like just.

1132
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, let's do We're on it. Yeah, let's go. Yeah.

1133
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 2: And then that's hard. It is, because that's that's hard

1134
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 2: in any game. He's getting back up and say, yeah,

1135
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,919
Speaker 2: I to make it. I could do it here.

1136
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 4: We don't sell a record, and then we'd still got

1137
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 4: to come back and say I believe in myself, I'm

1138
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 4: gonna do it.

1139
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 2: That ship is hard, especially when you've got to go

1140
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 2: in and fight, you know, in a ring with the

1141
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 2: whole world watching. So we come back. We got the

1142
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,560
Speaker 2: Jake Paul call, which was a blessing from God.

1143
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the.

1144
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 2: Profile, the audience, the fight himself, the money, everything was unbelievable.

1145
00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 2: Finished that fight, you know, busted his jaw up.

1146
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 1: Brilliant guy.

1147
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:18,760
Speaker 2: Do you know what marketing is very smart And by

1148
00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 2: the way, I still say people criticized him in that fight.

1149
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 2: Oh he moved around the ring. Oh he held fucking right.

1150
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 2: I mean the guy was crazy. He was crazy even

1151
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: taking the fight.

1152
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 1: Second he sat down in yll rock ledghip.

1153
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: But also he took that shot on the chin. Don't

1154
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,479
Speaker 2: get me wrong. It busted his jaw, but he still

1155
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: went down and went Wow, he wasn't asleep.

1156
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 4: No, you don't give a fuck. Let me tay some

1157
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 4: Him and his brother to wild white boys. They don't

1158
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 4: give a fuck, but they're smart, and America buys into

1159
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 4: that chip because they're like Rocky Balbo and they fight

1160
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: and they're fucking tough. I fucked with the Jake Baul

1161
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 4: and his brother, Logan Port. I don't give a fuck.

1162
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 4: I fucked with them. But he definitely officially I would

1163
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: have said boxing is rigged if he would have been

1164
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 4: the Antony just what I didn't.

1165
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: Gave four people saying to me, I was there a script?

1166
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: Oh are you going to take it easier?

1167
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,600
Speaker 2: I mean, aj had been out the ring for a

1168
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 2: year and the guy was moving around, so they took

1169
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,600
Speaker 2: him a couple of rounds to get old of them.

1170
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: But see that right, I am. We weren't playing. I

1171
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: mean that was that ship was club or a lane

1172
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: yea glass job?

1173
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 2: Respect respect to him and anyway, we come off that

1174
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: fight massive. I mean, all of a sudden, we got

1175
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 2: this new audience. Like women in America are like, oh,

1176
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: who is this guy? This guy gonna be all my children.

1177
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: It's not the UK women. Have you only just heard

1178
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,200
Speaker 2: about Anthony Joshua And they're like yes. So we were

1179
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 2: on cloud nine, like we're flying. And then obviously he

1180
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 2: goes to Nigeria as the crash and it's just the

1181
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: you know, the roller coaster of life. But that was

1182
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 2: just brew Toery's two best friends with him every day

1183
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 2: in camp and he lived with him, you know what

1184
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: I mean.

1185
00:58:58,240 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: And then he is.

1186
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: So sad, you know, and a James el injured, busted

1187
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: a couple of ribs up, but more importantly lost his

1188
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: two friends. So again, at a moment, I think stuff

1189
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 2: will that takes a long time to thinking.

1190
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: You know, you ever get over it, you know, get depressed.

1191
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 4: I lost one of my best friends, my sister, my

1192
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: grandfather the same time. It took me two years and

1193
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: real depression seeing that help and therapists. And you're, Laurie,

1194
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 4: you know it's mostly women that go see therapists, right,

1195
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: You ever knew that every week I would go to

1196
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 4: be ninety.

1197
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,120
Speaker 1: Five per seven. I've never seen another man.

1198
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 4: So when I used to go, and I was going

1199
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 4: in secrecy because I'm really tough guy, fat Joe at

1200
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 4: that time, and they got like these little rooms, I

1201
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 4: guess they all rent and it's just women out there.

1202
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 4: And I was the only guy who would come every

1203
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 4: Wednesday to see the women and shut up. Barbara messer Man.

1204
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: She helped me a lot, you know, learned, and thirty

1205
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 4: years later it was worth it.

1206
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: I still use what she to. He broke them out. Now,

1207
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: he broke them out because it's not old women. Now.

1208
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 4: Oh, when I was going and I would ask her

1209
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 4: and she would say not telling their business. She was

1210
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 4: like it's all women with successful husbands who feel like

1211
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 4: they go out of town all the time and they

1212
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 4: doing their doozy.

1213
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,440
Speaker 1: It was just me and them. The women out there.

1214
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 4: They must have knew fat joke, because I was really

1215
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: you know, what's love was like number one in the world,

1216
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: and I'm going for therapy every week and it was tough.

1217
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 4: But she taught me a lot of things how to

1218
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 4: get help and all that. So it's very important that

1219
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 4: if you know he's going through that emotionally, he should

1220
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 4: seek some help.

1221
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: You could be a big man and walk up in

1222
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,959
Speaker 1: there and get some help.

1223
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 2: You know.

1224
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,400
Speaker 4: Therapy is very important for that, you know, because some

1225
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 4: people deal with depth. I was just talking to somebody

1226
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: I love today that her mother is dying, and I

1227
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 4: was just telling that I lost She knows.

1228
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: She came to the funerals. I lost my mother, the father,

1229
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: and brother.

1230
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 4: Last year three the hard way, And I told her,

1231
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 4: you know, this cycle of life, you know, that's actually

1232
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 4: as tragic that they're young and nobody knows how they're

1233
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 4: gonna die.

1234
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: They died in a car accident. You know, that circle

1235
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: of life.

1236
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: Man, it's coming for all of us, you know, And

1237
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 4: so shout out Anthony Joshua Man. I hope he's all right. Man,

1238
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 4: God bless his family. Top five greatest fighters all time,

1239
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 4: and we can leave it at that. I mean, let

1240
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 4: me tell you about this podcast. It's the mother fucking

1241
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 4: Joe and Jadas your biggest in the world on Netflix.

1242
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:41,680
Speaker 4: You know why my partner's under the weather. I still

1243
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 4: shot it with him. Eddie Hearns gave us a fifteen minute,

1244
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 4: twenty minute window.

1245
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: He was sitting there for an hour and a half.

1246
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: He loves the shit.

1247
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:53,800
Speaker 4: He ain't going nowhere. Eddie Hearn's Top five greatest of

1248
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 4: all time.

1249
01:01:54,840 --> 01:02:00,520
Speaker 1: Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard. That's my hero. So

1250
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: Ray was the man that's your father. Just yeah, just

1251
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: a quick one on that.

1252
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 2: When I started with the Zone, we built all the punditry,

1253
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 2: the commentators, everything, and the first thing I said to

1254
01:02:10,720 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: him was we need Sugar Ray Leonard and we.

1255
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: Signed Sugar Ray Leonard to commentary.

1256
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 2: That that's the wasn't good enough to do it, but

1257
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,400
Speaker 2: I didn't give a I just wanted to meet him

1258
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 2: and signing and and uh, because he's he's unbelievable fight.

1259
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 2: So Sugar Ray Robinson, Sugar Ray Leonard, Muhammad Ali, of course, Freud.

1260
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: Mayweather, but I mean Corford. You're going to take Corford,

1261
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: maybe Joe.

1262
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 2: The only thing with Cowford is he never got the

1263
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 2: chance to really fight the elite guys consistently because.

1264
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: They never wanted to fight him. He would have, but

1265
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 1: he sucked on boy up won the least. He no no,

1266
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: k not Canelo, the other guy just before that. Yeah,

1267
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:57,000
Speaker 1: Spenser was good. Was Spence? But he was he was

1268
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 1: I don't get it wrong.

1269
01:02:57,840 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: He was a good win, but he wasn't any fine

1270
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't think, not that you know, crash and stuff

1271
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: like that. But listen, it was still an amazing win.

1272
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 2: But Crawford, I feel like he had so much more

1273
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 2: in the tank because he was that good. What I'm

1274
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 2: gonna do is I'm gonna tie number five with three

1275
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: or four guys. Crawford Ousik, unbelievable fire, undisputed at cruise away,

1276
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 2: undisputed at heavyweight. Evander Hollyfield one of my favorite biers.

1277
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: He was a cruise away that went.

1278
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 4: Up to he loved them. He beat up my taste

1279
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 4: and I went to the back. I mean crying. Watch

1280
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 4: but you watch.

1281
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: Riddick bow again against Evander holy Field and is.

1282
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 4: One of the greatest supportation. Fucking jab that boy, Oh my,

1283
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 4: I'll tell you punch me.

1284
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 1: He's in the tyrone. Queen La teeth for chase me

1285
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: for the knife.

1286
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: Some of these guys they want to prove on pussy,

1287
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 4: you know, right in the rear boom.

1288
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: Queen Ladietha chased me with a knife. This ain't that.

1289
01:03:56,600 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 3: That, ain't this grad Good kids, big some noise podcasts

1290
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 3: mister Eddie heard