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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in hour number two, Monday edition, Clay Travis Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show, the last day of July. We have got

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Speaker 2: much still to come with you. Our good friend Alex

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Speaker 2: Berenson going to join you at the bottom of the hour.

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Speaker 2: I would say, as a journalist covering COVID, no one

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Speaker 2: got more right than Alex Berenson did. What's going on

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Speaker 2: now we will discuss that with him. Lots more coming

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Speaker 2: your way as well. But as we are speaking, Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden's ex business partner, Devin Archer testifying meeting with lawmakers

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Speaker 2: to lay out Joe Biden's potential involvement alongside of Hunter

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Speaker 2: in many of the business deals that Devin Archer himself

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Speaker 2: was involved in as well. The expectation is that there will, soon,

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Speaker 2: I would imagine, be a transcript released of the comments

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Speaker 2: that he made under oath in the House, and that

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Speaker 2: will accelerate in many ways the impeachment inquiry into Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden based on millions of dollars I've seen. I saw

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Speaker 2: our friend Nancy Macebuck say that she thought, before all

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Speaker 2: was said and done, that potentially the bidens were paid

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Speaker 2: fifty million dollars right now, I believe we're close to

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Speaker 2: twenty million that they've been able to track. That's an

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Speaker 2: unbelievable amount of money to be paid and compensated. Again,

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Speaker 2: what was Bisma, the Ukrainian energy company getting, What was

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Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party getting? All of that beginning to

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Speaker 2: be told, and we will give you the latest on

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Speaker 2: that as more of these informational points on Devin Archer

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Speaker 2: comes out.

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Speaker 3: It seems I'm trying to make sure we may have

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Speaker 3: some breaking news here coming up on the hunt, the

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Speaker 3: Devin Archer slash Hunter Biden situation. But as we know,

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Speaker 3: he's facing he's facing a completely unrelated fraud charge and

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Speaker 3: could get sent to federal prison for some period of

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Speaker 3: time on that unrelated meaning to anything having to do

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Speaker 3: with Hunter Biden. But that's why that letter, I mean,

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Speaker 3: can you imagine he's he's going Now, Look, maybe part

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Speaker 3: of the play here is he comes out and speaks

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Speaker 3: the truth, a certain somebody becomes President Clay and not

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Speaker 3: only does he get out early, although it depends on

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Speaker 3: what kind of sentence.

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Speaker 4: That's an interesting play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, or but he might get a pardon because as

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Speaker 3: you know, even if you go to federal prison for

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Speaker 3: one year on a felony, you know, you cannot have

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Speaker 3: a license to trade securities, you cannot be a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: you'll be disbarred, you cannot vote. You know, there's all

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Speaker 3: kinds of things that that can come with that loss

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Speaker 3: of rights and obviously loss of reputation.

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Speaker 4: So you know, part of the play here.

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Speaker 3: Think about think of all of the chips going into

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Speaker 3: the middle of the table here with the Trump Biden

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Speaker 3: showdown that is emerging at this point. I mean, you've

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Speaker 3: got either side could could end up. I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: be let's be honest. I know that people say there's

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Speaker 3: no chance Trump will ever be convicted, but I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't think you can say that right.

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Speaker 4: No one knows. They're clearly bringing these charges.

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Speaker 3: Either side could end up with criminal liability as a

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Speaker 3: result of losing the election.

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Speaker 4: Joe Biden included, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Down in Atlanta right now, Buck, and there is expectation

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Speaker 2: potentially that there's going to be charges filed here in

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Speaker 2: the city of Atlanta in the state of Georgia soon.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that, as if that were not

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Speaker 2: crazy enough, at any moment, we could have an indictment

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Speaker 2: coming down associated with January sixth as well. And in

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Speaker 2: spite of all that, Pole came out this morning. I

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Speaker 2: want to hit you with a couple of different stories.

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Speaker 2: Buck and I were texting and talking about that this

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Speaker 2: early year in the morning. And there are several things

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Speaker 2: that are just incredible about the polling. So let's start here.

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Speaker 2: New York Times comes out with a poll that Trump

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Speaker 2: is crushing DeSantis and everyone else right now.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: To be fair, this is a national poll. Trump has

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Speaker 2: fifty four percent support in the Republican poll the New

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Speaker 2: York Times released today, Ron DeSantis at seventeen percent, nobody

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Speaker 2: Nikki Hayley, the vek Ramaswami and Chris Christy are two percent. Basically,

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Speaker 2: the article from a man named David Green, sixty nine

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Speaker 2: shock me if he occasionally listens to the show He

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Speaker 2: was asked why he's supporting Trump, and this is his quote.

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Speaker 2: He might say mean things and make all the men

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Speaker 2: be a little sissy and cry about everything. But at

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Speaker 2: the end of the day, you want results. Donald Trump's

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Speaker 2: my guy. He's proved it on a national level. Now here, Bluck,

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Speaker 2: I want to hit you with these. These are specific

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Speaker 2: questions asked of Republican primary voters.

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Speaker 4: Who is the strongest leader?

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Speaker 2: This is Trump or DeSantis sixty nine percent to twenty

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Speaker 2: two percent. Trump is the stronger leader, Get things done

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Speaker 2: sixty seven to twenty two percent. Trump able to beat

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden fifty eight percent Trump twenty eight percent DeSantis.

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Speaker 2: But this is the one that jumped out at me

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Speaker 2: the most. Buck fun. Who is more fun? Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: fifty four percent, Ron DeSantis sixteen percent. I can't believe

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Speaker 2: that more people don't talk about this. But Trump is

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Speaker 2: wildly entertaining to the Republican base, and that margin is

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Speaker 2: basically the margin overall. Trump has a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: I think the DeSantis campaign so far has been serious

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Speaker 2: Trump is just crushing Ron DeSantis just on the question

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Speaker 2: of who is more fun, and I think that's ultimately

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Speaker 2: why DeSantis is having so much trouble punching through ooka.

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Speaker 3: I listened today to DeSantis's economic plan on my way

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Speaker 3: out and everything that he is is putting forward. I

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Speaker 3: think every Republican, every conservative in this audience would nod

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Speaker 3: their head. Economically, they would say, yeah, that's good, that's smart.

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Speaker 3: I like that, that's you know, and you know, that's

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Speaker 3: a good idea. Let's do that. But I think what

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Speaker 3: what's happening here is. On the one hand, there's just

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Speaker 3: Trump is the greatest political show on earth still far, none,

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Speaker 3: no question, just as a show right, as a as

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Speaker 3: a draw, and that hasn't changed. People haven't tired of

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Speaker 3: it the way that maybe some had anticipated after the

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty election and everything that happened.

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Speaker 4: That's one part of it.

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Speaker 3: But also I think people are increasingly seeing this or

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's look at the numbers.

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Speaker 3: Half of the Republican base looks at the situation and

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Speaker 3: this is based on the polling. I'm not just it's

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Speaker 3: really more or less fifty percent of people on the

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Speaker 3: it's around there. And they see this as a clash

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Speaker 3: this as a bare knuckle brawl for the soul of

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Speaker 3: the country. And so the policies, the who's going to

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Speaker 3: do what at the border, how is this going to

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Speaker 3: to be? All of that gets pushed, a shot, pushed,

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Speaker 3: cannot break and their throat. They are throwing absolutely everything

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Speaker 3: think that this is the phenomenon that's unfolding before us,

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Speaker 3: clear that the indictments have solidified. There may be was

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Speaker 3: some question about that Clay right, are people going to

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Speaker 3: get tired of this?

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Speaker 4: We don't have to do this.

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Speaker 3: Maybe well half again, it's only half half of this

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Speaker 3: audience by the statistics, the numbers is saying, I kind

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Speaker 3: of wish it was somebody else, but I'll still vote

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Speaker 3: for Trump half based on the polling, or like it's

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Speaker 3: all in for Trump. And when you're in a primary

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Speaker 3: fifty percent, when there are, however many candidates there are,

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Speaker 3: that's a dominant lead, perhaps an unassailable lead. The question

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Speaker 3: then becomes, do they deliver the primary to Trump and

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Speaker 3: hobble him for the general. I think the Democrats are

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Speaker 3: making a case on this one. The question is are

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Speaker 4: Uh buck?

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Speaker 2: No one has ever at this stage, as we're sitting

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Speaker 2: five and a half months before the voting starts in Iowa,

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Speaker 2: no one in the modern history of the New York

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Speaker 2: we're sitting at thirty seven. I think ten is the

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Speaker 2: in eight Barack Obama was down pretty substantially at this

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Speaker 2: and we'll get to the CNN as well, Buck, but

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Speaker 2: this is the part that really stood out to me.

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Speaker 2: Fifty four to sixteen, Trump is more fun than DeSantis,

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Speaker 2: but Buck, forty five to forty three, the Republican electorate

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Speaker 2: finds DeSantis more likable. So there's a huge segment out

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Speaker 2: him far more fun. And I just think that incongruity

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Speaker 2: says that DeSantis is more moral, but Trump is more

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Speaker 2: And the other part on this Spock that stands out,

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Speaker 2: we can spend a bunch of time on this, because

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Speaker 2: we've said it on this show, but I don't think

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Speaker 2: most in the modern media out there have discussed it.

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Speaker 2: Trump is in a stronger position to be re elected

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Speaker 2: president today than he ever.

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Speaker 4: Was in twenty sixteen or in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: When you look at the polling data out there, Trump

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Speaker 2: he ever was in sixteen or in twenty.

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Speaker 3: Well, well, let's let's look at this right What assuming

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Speaker 3: that number is fifty percent, what kind of numbers would

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Speaker 3: he have to lose in terms of support? I mean,

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Speaker 3: is it plausible that Trump is going to lose twenty

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Speaker 3: or thirty percent of that support over the next six months.

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Speaker 3: No one can predict the futures, I always say, but

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Speaker 3: it does seem as a matter of history and as

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Speaker 3: a matter of statistics, highly highly improbable because it has

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Speaker 3: not had happened in recent memory. I mean, you talked

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Speaker 3: the past, and I do think that this is what

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Speaker 3: well one that it isn't his campaign, and people have

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Speaker 3: seen the campaign and they have passed judgment on it.

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Speaker 3: a part of this, And there's a reset going on.

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Speaker 3: Is that reset enough that people feel like, okay, maybe

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: But beyond that, what they are doing against Trump is

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back to you. Eight one hundred two

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Speaker 3: The Oakland NAACP wrote a letter that you need to

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Speaker 4: We'll play that for you in a moment here.

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Speaker 3: But this is one of these everything that we say,

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Speaker 4: But here you go from this letter.

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Speaker 5: A crowd of.

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Speaker 4: Address the issue.

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Speaker 6: The frustration wasn't just named at the District Attorney. Captain

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Speaker 3: Wait, can we pause it here before we get to

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Speaker 2: And we've been making this argument for a couple of

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Speaker 4: And if you live in a city as.

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Speaker 4: Soft on crime policies actually lead to.

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Speaker 6: Play it about what officers are doing to prevent crime.

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Speaker 7: I know, your hands and tied, but you kind of

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, you're stand out here on the corner

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Speaker 6: Captain Birch, try to explain how the department's hands are tied,

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Speaker 3: If all we have is a burglary and my officer

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Speaker 4: And that is the essence of what has to be happening.

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Speaker 3: And it's so frustrating too, because any you go into

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Speaker 6: It where tonight was directed at crime spreez where kids

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Speaker 4: What happened after they were let go? They probably attacked

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Speaker 3: Were you have you have like you know, ladies in

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Speaker 3: I mean, people are fed up. You know, these are

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Speaker 3: It's ninety percent Democrats in that room. But they're sick

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's representative I think of what's going on

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Speaker 3: It's interesting, but that was the kpi X, which is

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Speaker 4: And look, you know, it's good reporting. People need to

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Speaker 3: You can basically line up Clay at this point in time,

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Speaker 3: versus three or four years ago. And it couldn't be

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Speaker 3: more clear. This has been an entirely the soft on

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Speaker 3: crime approach, the permissive approach has been an entirely failed

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Speaker 3: experiment of policy.

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Speaker 4: And the Left was wrong. Just like they were.

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Speaker 3: Wrong about masks, just like they were wrong about mandatory

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Speaker 3: COVID vaccines, they're wrong about their crime policies too.

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Speaker 2: And I think this is important, Buck, empathy, because that's

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Speaker 2: what they would argue, Oh, we need to be more

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Speaker 2: empathetic for the criminals here. Misguided empathy creates hard times

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Speaker 2: for everyone. So the one group you would think that

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Speaker 2: you don't need to be empathetic for. And I've done

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Speaker 2: criminal law, I understand there are people who commit crimes

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Speaker 2: who actually can get their lives back together again. But

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Speaker 2: the idea that we're being too tough on multiple violent

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Speaker 2: felons and that we're letting people who are committing and

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Speaker 2: perpetrating crimes, and you know this, Buck, and all the

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Speaker 2: police officers out there listening to us know this too,

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Speaker 2: right now too, you mentioned it. They know the one

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Speaker 2: percent of people in these communities who are committing the crimes.

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Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of people can live in peace and

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Speaker 2: trying to take care of their family and everybody else.

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Speaker 2: Only takes about one percent to throw everything into pure chaos.

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Speaker 4: Look, let's be honest about this too.

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Speaker 3: The Soros left of the Democrat Party, which call so

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Speaker 3: many of their shots and is so central to their policy,

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Speaker 3: it upsets them that it's not more guys wearing Maga hats, yes,

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Speaker 3: or right wing who are being arrested everywhere. That's really

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Speaker 3: what this that's really what this ultimately does come down

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Speaker 3: to for a lot of them is, you know, the

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Speaker 3: greatest threat in the country to our safety and security

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Speaker 3: is Trump and white supremacy, as they say, And then

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Speaker 3: they're upset that there aren't more guys with Trump hats

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Speaker 3: being arrested for violent crimes across the country.

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Speaker 2: That's the bottom line. That's what Rashida Talib told us.

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Speaker 2: We talked about this on Friday buck when she said

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Speaker 2: the number one threat to America as white men, and

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Speaker 2: barely any criticism of her at all. Do you see

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Speaker 2: Loud to say whatever she like. I said, you're allowed

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Speaker 3: Now which says something, doesn't it. We'll get back into

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Speaker 1: Keeek Out with the guys on the Sunday Hang with

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Speaker 1: Clay and Buck podcast, a new episode every Sunday. Find

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Speaker 3: Third Hour Clay and Buck kicks off right now, everybody,

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Speaker 3: and we have a lot to get to here. You've

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Speaker 3: got the GOP considering the possibility of impeaching Joe Biden.

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Speaker 3: Some already some back and forth over that one among

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Speaker 3: members of Congress. You also have Devin Archer testifying today

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Speaker 3: about his business dealings with Hunter and Joe Biden involved

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Speaker 3: in all of this. And that's I think really something

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Speaker 3: that they've tried so hard to avoid the public from

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Speaker 3: figuring out, which is that Joe Biden was very much

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Speaker 3: a part of the Hunter scam. That's right, the sitting

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Speaker 3: president of the United States. Can I just just put

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Speaker 3: this out there, Clay, you see this. This is Representative

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Speaker 3: Daniel goldmdten. It's cut thirty one saying, of course, Clay,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was talking to Hunter's business associates.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, play it the.

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Speaker 5: President stamens in that he never talked to any of

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Speaker 5: hunter body business associates. Clearly he talked, whether about the

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Speaker 5: weather or whatever, but he said specifically that he's never

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Speaker 5: talked to them.

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Speaker 4: Does this contradiction.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what his comment is, and if we're

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Speaker 5: gonna well, I don't think that's what he said. He

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Speaker 5: never said that he has never spoken to anyone. He

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Speaker 5: said that he had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's

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Speaker 5: business dealings. If he says hello to someone that he

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Speaker 5: sees his son with, as he's supposed to say, Hi, son,

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I'm not going to say hello to the

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Speaker 5: other people at the table or the other people on

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Speaker 5: the phone. It's kind of a preposterous premise to think

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Speaker 5: that a father should not say hello to people that

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Speaker 5: the son is at dinner with. And that is literally

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Speaker 5: all the evidences.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Clay, I mean this is this is I made

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Speaker 3: That depends on what the meaning of is is.

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Speaker 4: This is overlawyering.

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Speaker 3: This is a desperate attempt to avoid what is the

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Speaker 3: fundamental and obvious conclusion Joe Biden is a liar, and

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden was in on it.

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Speaker 2: He said specifically, Buck, I've never spoken to any of

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Speaker 2: Hunter's business associates. That is pretty transparent, straightforward and categorical.

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Speaker 2: And now they're shifting the argument. And this is not

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Speaker 2: unexpected because Karine Jean Pierre said, oh, he's never talked

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Speaker 2: with Hunter about business, with his family about business. Look,

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Speaker 2: this is all why Joe Biden was neck deep in

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's business dealings. The only reason Hunter Biden had

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Speaker 2: any business at all was Joe Biden.

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Speaker 4: I mean, these.

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Speaker 2: Chinese in Ukrainian interests are not stupid buck, And I've

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Speaker 2: said this on the show before, but if Chairman Z

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Speaker 2: had a crackhead son that United States Interest could pay

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Speaker 2: a couple million dollars to and know everything that was

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Speaker 2: going on inside of the inner reaches of the Chinese

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Speaker 2: government and to have someone to advocate for United States interest,

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Speaker 2: it would be the greatest intelligence coup of the twenty

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Speaker 2: first century. You worked in the CIA, if you could

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Speaker 2: have been involved in the crackhead son of Chairman Z,

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Speaker 2: that America somehow set up payments to him for a

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Speaker 2: couple million dollars and as a result, we had the

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Speaker 2: ability to influence the decisions that China was making in

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Speaker 2: a way that was beneficial to the United States. Every

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Speaker 2: single one of us listening right now would say, that's

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Speaker 2: the intellig diligence coup of the twenty first century. Would

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Speaker 2: you love to have been a CIA analyst able to

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Speaker 2: put together that kind of intelligence gathering operation for the

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Speaker 2: cost of a couple million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's that's career making, not just for let's say

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Speaker 3: a case officer who'd be running that kind of an asset,

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Speaker 3: but for the head.

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Speaker 4: Of the agency at the time.

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Speaker 3: That level of access to a foreign adversary, if you

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Speaker 3: could actually get that would be absolutely tremendous. And I

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Speaker 3: do think we can all discount the likelihood that Hunter

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Speaker 3: Biden was being paid for his market advice when it

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Speaker 3: comes to foreign natural gas, making home videos, and perhaps

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Speaker 3: how to set up your own chemistry set. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we know what his skill set is, and it is

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Speaker 3: not something that is worth the millions and millions of

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Speaker 3: dollars have given him.

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Speaker 4: So this couldn't be more obvious. But I do think that.

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Speaker 3: Everyone needs to prepare themselves for the reality that the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that because a Democrats in charge Joe Biden,

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Speaker 3: because there will not be charges against Joe Biden himself.

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Speaker 3: They will justify anything that comes out under the well,

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden hasn't been charged. Donald Trump has been charged

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Speaker 3: so many times. I can just already see that's where

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Speaker 3: this will eventually go, because they've had to walk back

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Speaker 3: the defense so many steps. Also, I wanted to address

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Speaker 3: something else, Clay, because you know, we had the caller

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Speaker 3: just now, and I think was we were trying to

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Speaker 3: always represent this by the data as accurately as we can.

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Speaker 3: I think that this audience is as good a a

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Speaker 3: an example of the GOP base as you could find

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Speaker 3: on any program anywhere in any medium.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: You know, it says large sample size, and we've got

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Speaker 3: people from all fifty states who are listening, and so

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Speaker 3: that gives us a good sense of where people stand.

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Speaker 3: About half the audience, by the numbers, is all in

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Speaker 3: for Trump. About half the audience is not. And so

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Speaker 3: when we talk about these issues, like I brought up

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Speaker 3: DeSantis before, when we're discussing the positives and negatives of

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Speaker 3: different candidates or campaigns, we're not endorsing and Ron DeSantis

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Speaker 3: is a phenomenal governor of Florida. That doesn't change. That's

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Speaker 3: not something that the polls are going to This is

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Speaker 3: about who the best president of the United States will

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Speaker 3: be for the GOP and for the country going forward.

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Speaker 3: And so we're looking at what the voice of the

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Speaker 3: base is at this point in time and trying to

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Speaker 3: analyze it. But basically what I'm saying is if someone's

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Speaker 3: looking for oh, well, you know, are you are you

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Speaker 3: going to push for this person or that, We're not

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Speaker 3: trying to push. We're just trying to analyze, assess, and

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Speaker 3: look at the data for what it is. And so

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Speaker 3: that's why I guess what he says, you say is

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Speaker 3: the best on COVID, he was the best governor on COVID.

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Speaker 3: And to the point about attack ads that say that

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Speaker 3: that's not true, I disagree with those attack ads.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that. But this is politics, and people

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Speaker 4: are allowed to.

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Speaker 3: Have different different approaches to how they're going to assess

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Speaker 3: someone's tenure in any role. So that's just I didn't

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Speaker 3: want to leave that all hanging at the end of

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Speaker 3: the last hour.

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Speaker 2: Look, you can simultaneously believe that Ron DeSantis would be

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Speaker 2: a really good president, and that Donald Trump would be

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Speaker 2: a really good president, and that vivik Ramaswami would be

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Speaker 2: a really good president, I actually think. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley or Tim Scott, or whoever your chosen candidate is,

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Speaker 2: this group of Republicans, all of them would be overwhelmingly

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Speaker 2: better than Joe Biden. The point we're making is the

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Speaker 2: big story today, I would say double barreled.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: New York Times they say that Donald Trump has opened

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Speaker 2: a thirty seven point lead. No one has ever overcome

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Speaker 2: in fifty years of data, a lead of more than

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Speaker 2: twenty points, no nationwide since they started polling over fifty

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Speaker 2: years ago. So if Ron DeSantis or anybody else were

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Speaker 2: to catch and overtake Trump, it would be the biggest

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Speaker 2: upset given where we're sitting right now in modern presidential

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Speaker 2: political history. And simultaneous to that release of the poll

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Speaker 2: from the New York Times, also CNN finally acknowledged what

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Speaker 2: we've been saying for a long time, which is Trump

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Speaker 2: is in a stronger position right now, even with the

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Speaker 2: double indictments and even with potentially a couple of more

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Speaker 2: indictments coming than he ever was in the twenty sixteen

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Speaker 2: campaign that he won against Hillery, and that he ever

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Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty campaign against Joe Biden, And we've

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Speaker 2: been saying this on the program for a while. Remember

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Speaker 2: Trump never led in any poll that was out there

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, and he virtually never led in any

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Speaker 2: poll that was out there in twenty sixteen. He's leading

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Speaker 2: in some of the polls that are coming out right now.

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Speaker 2: Now we are still, what's the math, five and a

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Speaker 2: half months away from voting in Iowa. Occurring, A lot

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Speaker 2: can happen in five and a half months. Maybe there's

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Speaker 2: going to be an upset in Iowa as there has

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Speaker 2: been in the past.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 2: Really to me, Buck, the race officially begins for much

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Speaker 2: of the public on August twenty third, in this first

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Speaker 2: Republican primary now Republican debate. There's going to be one

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Speaker 2: in the September, There's going to be one in October.

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Speaker 2: But I thought I'll just give people a clarity. I

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Speaker 2: was saying this to somebody who's in the Trump administration

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Speaker 2: that I saw down here at the Atlanta Braves game

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Speaker 2: on the weekend. We were having a conversation. I said,

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Speaker 2: I thought that it was going to be far more

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Speaker 2: competitive right.

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Speaker 4: Now than it is. I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 2: I thought that we were going to have my favorite word,

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Speaker 2: a real Donnybrook in the Republican primary. So far, it

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Speaker 2: does not appear that there's really going to be a

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Speaker 2: battle at all. Maybe that changes, but tomorrow's August first.

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Speaker 2: Every day, every week that passes where this thing is

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Speaker 2: not getting tighter makes it feel like more of a

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Speaker 2: foregone conclusion.

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Speaker 3: Well, also, the polls were showing that it was going

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Speaker 3: to be closer in December, January, February, so there was

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Speaker 3: a moment there where there was consideration, a greater consideration

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Speaker 3: among the GOP base of alternative options to another Trump

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Speaker 3: presidency or another Trump run I should say at the

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Speaker 3: presidency because it's on the primary side. But that shifted,

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Speaker 3: that changed, and so here we are now seeing a

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Speaker 3: massive movement of really a consolidation of support for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: I think it is clearly.

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Speaker 3: Tied to the efforts to destroy him. I think that

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Speaker 3: there are people for whom at just a gut maybe

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Speaker 3: instinctual level, the attack on Donald Trump and the usage

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Speaker 3: of the law to destroy him. If this succeeds, what

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Speaker 3: really is left? I think a lot of people feel that, meaning,

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Speaker 3: if they're allowed to destroy Trump in this way, what

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Speaker 3: are we thinking the system even can produce going forward.

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Speaker 3: I think I see those sentiments. I hear that from

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Speaker 3: people or read it from people who are writing in

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Speaker 3: But I will also remind everybody that, you know, when

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Speaker 3: we sit here and talk about the great thing on

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Speaker 3: our side is you look at some of these people

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Speaker 3: who are running. They're really impressive and they've done really

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Speaker 3: good things either personally, professionally out there in the private

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Speaker 3: sector or for their respective states. I mean, a lot

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Speaker 3: of these candidates are phenomenal people, you know, really impressive,

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Speaker 3: and so I also think it's worth noting that for

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Speaker 3: they agree with the people in this audience on policy

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Speaker 3: and about the country and about their love of the

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Speaker 3: country on I don't know ninety percent of issues, ninety

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Speaker 3: five percent of issues.

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Speaker 4: So you're allowed to have.

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Speaker 3: A preference without despising the alternative on your own team,

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Speaker 3: and I think that gets a little loss sometimes in

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Speaker 3: these really aggressive primaries and the way people are are

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Speaker 3: thinking about this. You know, we have a bunch of

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Speaker 3: a phenomenal job. We have people in this race who

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Speaker 3: I think have shown, you know, obviously Vivick, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Tim Scott has a really inspiring story for people, and

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Speaker 3: as somebody who you know ultimately is a good man

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Speaker 3: pushing a little bit here, but I can say this,

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Speaker 3: Nicky Haley would be way better than Joe Biden. She's

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Speaker 3: not going to be president. We all know that, but

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying I think it's worth keeping this.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Maybe some people disagree with that.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's fair to say that Nicki Haley

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Speaker 4: So I think that's a hundred per cent tury.

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Speaker 2: And I think again, we will see five and a

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Speaker 2: half months out, but I do think it's important. Remember

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Speaker 2: was it like two weeks ago, Buck, when I when

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Speaker 2: I came on the show and I said, I feel

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Speaker 2: like this is over, And yes, you said it was over.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago I came on and I said, looking

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Speaker 2: And and I think you were like, wait, you're calling

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Speaker 2: it was two weeks ago, So let me check the transcripts.

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Speaker 2: Now we're two weeks since then, and the New York

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Speaker 2: Times is basically coming out and saying, hey, this is

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Speaker 2: over now. The good thing is if you are a

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Speaker 2: supporter of the fifty percent that is not Trump, your

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Speaker 2: candidate gets an opportunity to still make the case. The

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Speaker 2: challenge is this, Buck, when I shared with you all

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Speaker 2: of the fact that Trump is winning on every side

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Speaker 2: of every angle, and.

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Speaker 4: That how do you attack him.

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Speaker 3: Well, his support is not fundamentally due to grading each

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Speaker 3: individual policy, and that's really what this comes from.

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Speaker 2: So it's super hard to beat him on a policy

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Speaker 2: level when most Trump supporters are not focused on the

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Speaker 2: They are with him on a visceral emotional level. So

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Speaker 2: how do you erase a thirty seven point lead? And

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Speaker 2: by the way, DeSantis is the only one within thirty seven.

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Speaker 4: Every other candidate, Buck is fifty.

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Speaker 2: Points behind because to me, the lesson of that New

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Speaker 2: So like people are picking on DeSantis, he's sitting at seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Trump has a fifty plus.

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Speaker 4: Point lead on every other candidate that's announced so far.

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Speaker 3: That's Cristy I know, I don't think anybody anticipated that's

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Speaker 4: All right, you deal with a lot of stuff in here.

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Speaker 3: You know, we talk about politics today and things have

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Speaker 3: But we also want to give as much as we can.

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Speaker 3: good life, how to do the right things, how to

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Speaker 3: feel good in your day today. Tell us about how

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Speaker 3: you can achieve that, and what you're getting at in

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Speaker 7: Well, I'm basically arguing that, Look, there's about fifty percent

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Speaker 7: So there are certain choices that you can make in life,

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Speaker 7: certain mindsets that you can adopt that either increase your

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Speaker 7: likelihood of happiness or of misery, And so that's what

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Speaker 7: the book is about. What are some of these secrets?

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Speaker 4: Okay? So yes, exactly what are some okay?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean, let's start with the two most fundamental

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Speaker 7: decisions that will either impart great happiness or great misery

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Speaker 7: upon you, choosing the right life partner and the ideal job.

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Speaker 7: I can speak briefly on each if you like the

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Speaker 7: right life partner and evolutionary psychology, there are two opposing maxims.

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Speaker 7: One is the opposite track maxim or the birds of

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Speaker 7: a feather flock together maxim Well. For short term sexual encounter,

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Speaker 7: opposites attract works perfectly well. I may be sexually restrained,

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Speaker 7: I may be introverted. You may be the exact opposites,

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Speaker 7: and hence opposites might attract. But for long term stability

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Speaker 7: of a romantic union, and the research is overwhelmingly clear

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Speaker 7: that it's birds of a feather flock together. And what

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Speaker 7: do we mean by birds of a feather flocking on

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Speaker 7: which feathers? Well, it's sharing the same life goals, shame,

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Speaker 7: same belief systems, same values. You increase your chances tremendously

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Speaker 7: if you find someone with whom to assort on these values?

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Speaker 4: All right, what about jobs?

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Speaker 2: So many people out there are constantly seeking affirmation, seeking

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Speaker 2: happiness through what they do for a living.

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Speaker 4: What does the data show us on this? What would

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Speaker 4: you encourage.

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Speaker 2: Let's say we got seventeen, eighteen twenty year olds listening

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Speaker 2: right now, trying to figure out what direction to go

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Speaker 2: with their career. What would you say, say the data

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Speaker 2: suggest is the pathway to fulfilling and happiness in that respect.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, great, great question, Thank you. I argue there are

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Speaker 7: two fundamental things that you should try to achieve in

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Speaker 7: terms of your ideal job, if possible. Of course, I

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Speaker 7: realized people may have, you know, pragmatic constraints, But if possible.

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Speaker 7: Number one, any job that allows you to instantiate your

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Speaker 7: an author, professor. All of these jobs, while very different,

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Speaker 7: The Segond metric that I would recommend in terms of

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Speaker 7: finding an ideal job is something that gives you temporal freedom. So,

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Speaker 7: and that's a fancy way of saying that gives me

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Speaker 7: freedom to sort of navigate through my day without being

874
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Speaker 7: consistently constrained by someone else's schedule. So I may work

875
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 7: very hard, gentlemen, but it's really on my own time.

876
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 7: I could work so four in the morning on my

877
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 7: next paper or my next book, and then wake up

878
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,000
Speaker 7: at ten and then go off to a cafe. So

879
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 7: contrast that to someone who is bound by union rules

880
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 7: as to when they can take a bathroom break. So

881
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 7: all other things equal, creative and pulse temporal freedom is

882
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 7: a sure way to being happy. If I can just

883
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 7: add one quick other thing. In one of the last chapters,

884
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 7: I talk about anticipatory regrets, So try to make decisions

885
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 7: that will anticipate you not succumbing to future regrets. So

886
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 7: as relating to a job, many people at the end

887
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 7: of their life will say, I really regret that I

888
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 7: never pursued my interest in the arts. I became a

889
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 7: pediatrician because my dad and his dad were pediatricians, and

890
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 7: so you really have to be mindful of that. I

891
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 7: understand that people have constraints they have to put food

892
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 7: on the table. But if you can find something that

893
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 7: will minimize anticipatory regret in the future, you're on your

894
00:48:58,600 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 7: way to being happy.

895
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,319
Speaker 3: That's being a God sad. He has a book, The

896
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 3: Sad Truth about Happiness. We're talking about it right now.

897
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 3: You know, you say in the book you get into resilience.

898
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: I've learned the older I get God, the more it

899
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: feels like like resilience and persistence get you ninety percent

900
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: of where you want to be, Oh, one hundred percent.

901
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 7: Look you when I'm working on this book, right, I mean,

902
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 7: of course, you have to have talent to tell a

903
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 7: story to you know, do the research on you know,

904
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 7: the material that you're writing about. But the discipline that

905
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:34,920
Speaker 7: is required to wake up every day doesn't matter if

906
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 7: I'm teaching classes that day. It doesn't matter. If I'm

907
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 7: having trouble with my children at home, it doesn't matter

908
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 7: if I have brunkitis. I have to head off and

909
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 7: write five hundred words a day, no matter what rainy sunny,

910
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,359
Speaker 7: doesn't matter. If I don't do that, I could never

911
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 7: meet the strict deadline that my publisher has imposed. I

912
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,919
Speaker 7: ran a few marathons when I was younger. I mean

913
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 7: It's not about physical shap When you're running a marathon,

914
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 7: it's when you hit the all around the thirty eight

915
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 7: kilometer mark, are you able to take another step? Everything

916
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 7: in your body is saying no, but yet one step,

917
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 7: another step, and another step, and suddenly you finish the marathon.

918
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 7: So there's nothing you can do in life that is

919
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 7: substantive that doesn't require this anti fragility mindset.

920
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Speaker 2: What about social media? What does it show you in

921
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 2: terms of happiness? So many people spending a lot of

922
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 2: time on Instagram, TikTok, Twitter, they all have different cultures Facebook.

923
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 2: What does that reflect about happiness? Is it a pathway

924
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 2: to unhappiness? Is it something that you have to watch?

925
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 2: Is it something that leads to more happiness based on

926
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: your data?

927
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 4: What have you seen?

928
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Great question. I mean it really depends on how you

930
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 7: interact with social media. If you use it, say in

931
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 7: my case, because of my job, I have to spread

932
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 7: ideas that have to connect with people, Well, then if

933
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 7: you do it for that, then it can bring you

934
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 7: great riches. On the other hand, if you use it

935
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 7: to constantly compare your lock life to others, well you

936
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 7: know they have a nicer car, their marriage seems better

937
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 7: than mine. They seem to have better put together children.

938
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 7: Then that's why you end up with depression when you

939
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 7: navigate with social media, because everybody is curating the best

940
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 7: aspects of their life. They're not showing you the bad parts,

941
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 7: and so you start underestimating how good your life is.

942
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 7: And you think everybody has this magical life, and that

943
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 7: can make you feel bad. So use social media to

944
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 7: connect with others, drop the rest, and hopefully you'll be happier.

945
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 3: One more for you, God, you know, I'm getting a

946
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 3: dog with my wife this fall. You have something about

947
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 3: that that really stuck out to me in the book,

948
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 3: about you know, taking a tip from your dog about

949
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 3: happiness in life.

950
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Speaker 7: Oh my goodness, you know what. I think that probably

951
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 7: getting a dog is better than being put on any

952
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 7: antidepression medication. I mean, I'm being a bit facetious, but

953
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 7: look what, why do we share so much with dogs?

954
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 7: Because we both have an innate and desperate desire to play.

955
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 7: With both social speak, we both wish to be immersed

956
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 7: in play. That's why I have a whole chapter on

957
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 7: life as a playground. So I'm really delighted to hear

958
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 7: that you're getting a dog. Believe me, as someone who's

959
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 7: had many Belgian shepherds, life without a dog is bereft

960
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 7: of meaning.

961
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Speaker 2: Speaking of that, there's different data I've seen on kids,

962
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:23,200
Speaker 2: especially when kids are young. Stresses on parents are a

963
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 2: lot higher. I'm curious what the data reflects on parenting, grandparenting,

964
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 2: and how children factor in to happiness based on what

965
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:32,399
Speaker 2: you've seen.

966
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Speaker 7: Look, the research is mixed. I mean, some people say

967
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 7: that having children offers you a bit of a hit

968
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 7: of happiness. Others say the opposites. So the research is

969
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,319
Speaker 7: not completely unequivocal there. But I'll answer in a more

970
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 7: philosophical way. I argue that your pathway to immortality really

971
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 7: operates through two pathways. Number One, I could have genetic immortality,

972
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 7: and I can only have that having children. When I

973
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 7: have children, I literally am propagating my genes, at least

974
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 7: half of my genes, to each of my children. The

975
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Speaker 7: other way that I can achieve immortality is through what's

976
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 7: called mimetic immortality. Right, the books that I write, hopefully

977
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 7: are read by others. They now I'm infecting their brains

978
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 7: with my ideas, and so from my perspective, existentially, life

979
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,799
Speaker 7: is somewhat poorer if you don't have children that can

980
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 7: hopefully take care of you when you're older. So yes,

981
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 7: get children, Hopefully that will make you happier.

982
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Speaker 3: The sad truth about happiness. God sad is the author.

983
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Speaker 3: God always good to have you all man, thank you.

984
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Speaker 7: Thank you so much, guys, cheers.

985
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992
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