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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, June fifth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen,
Speaker 1: Episode number twelve. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're li from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the
Speaker 1: Star and today we're gonna talk offense. This is one
Speaker 1: of our final two shows before we take a little
Speaker 1: break here before training camp, and so we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a two part series year. The first part we'll be
Speaker 1: on offense. Today we'll talk about some of the changes
Speaker 1: that this team has made, where we see areas that
Speaker 1: they may need still need to do a little bit more,
Speaker 1: and just our overall thoughts on the offense based on
Speaker 1: everything that's happened through draft and free agency on the offense.
Speaker 1: And then next week we'll jump into defense and do
Speaker 1: the exact same thing before we head out for a
Speaker 1: little bit of rest. How's everybody doing a name, good, good, great, awesome,
Speaker 1: let's jump into it. I was looking through the as
Speaker 1: I was preparing for this show. I was looking through
Speaker 1: the list of changes that have happened on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. And I don't know that I've
Speaker 1: ever remembered a time now. My memory is really bad.
Speaker 1: So that's why I'm gonna ask you guys this question.
Speaker 1: I ever remember a time when they've made so few
Speaker 1: real changes. I mean, when you look at the offense,
Speaker 1: there are a couple pieces that they changed here and there,
Speaker 1: but overall, it really, it really is gonna look a
Speaker 1: lot like it looked last season. You guys agree with that.
Speaker 1: On the field, yes, but you know, there's a new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and there's a new quarterback coach, so that's
Speaker 1: the biggest changes there. Those are things that you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily will see and well we'll you know, only time
Speaker 1: will tell how much will it'll actually show on the field.
Speaker 1: But as far as personnel goes, you know, other than
Speaker 1: a sixteen year veteran, you know, future Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: that came back, that's about it. Though. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: good team. Though, it's a good offense, and you don't
Speaker 1: need to change a lot of things. No respect for
Speaker 1: the nine year veteran Pro Bowl receiver. No, and again
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they didn't make any change. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying just overall, No, it weren't a lot of changes.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm I don't know if I agree with
Speaker 1: you or not, Like I'm just trying to think. I mean,
Speaker 1: on one hand, like you haven't seen a lot of
Speaker 1: wholesale changes from year to year, But on the other hand,
Speaker 1: like we're only three years removed from Tony Romo, you know,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I guess I see. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley swap out Cole Beasley for Randall cop and
Speaker 1: that's really and yeah, I mean, I know, Jason Witten's back,
Speaker 1: but all the other tight ends are the same, and
Speaker 1: it's not like he's a new face. So yeah, you're
Speaker 1: probably right, I think there. I mean, I see it
Speaker 1: as a lot of changes offensively, offensively because you have
Speaker 1: restructured your whole offense since a few years ago, and
Speaker 1: it takes a while when you're rebuilding a team, which
Speaker 1: I don't think was expected by anyone. But that's just
Speaker 1: how it kind of turned out, right, now you have
Speaker 1: a completely different team, and when you do that, it
Speaker 1: takes you a few years to get to that point
Speaker 1: where you're able to kind of glue all the pieces
Speaker 1: together and give it your all and make it a
Speaker 1: run to like an actual run closer to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I get what you're saying. If you're
Speaker 1: talking about over the last few years, then yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I think it was being Dave. I think we
Speaker 1: were having this conversation a while back, maybe a few
Speaker 1: maybe a week or two ago, about the fact that
Speaker 1: they've completely flipped this offense. I mean, this wide receiver
Speaker 1: group if you go back a few years now, just
Speaker 1: last year. Obviously they want a whole lot of changes,
Speaker 1: but if you go back a few years, I mean
Speaker 1: you're talking about some big changes overall. They've changed their
Speaker 1: wide receiver group almost together, if you want to go
Speaker 1: back to twenty sixteen, almost all this offense is relatively new,
Speaker 1: except for the offensive line, right. So yeah, from that standpoint,
Speaker 1: they have they've completely flipped this thing. But just in
Speaker 1: this last year, it doesn't seem like there's been aline.
Speaker 1: It's drastically different, kind of like a glacier, you know,
Speaker 1: like they move an inch at a time, and it
Speaker 1: seems really slow. But then all of a sudden, all
Speaker 1: this crazy stuff has happened, because yeah, we're two years
Speaker 1: removed from the receiver corps being Dez, Terrence Cole, Bryce Butler,
Speaker 1: Lucky white Head. Yeah, and now it's like none of
Speaker 1: those guys are all gone, which I guess it's the
Speaker 1: same from November of last year. You know, Cooper Gallup starting,
Speaker 1: you bring in Randall cover places calls. So it's a
Speaker 1: little bit of both. So let's let's look at this
Speaker 1: big picture. Let's go back to twenty eighteen, and I
Speaker 1: want you guys to tell me, coming out of twenty eighteen,
Speaker 1: what did you think was the biggest issue, the biggest
Speaker 1: challenge for this offense from what you saw in eighteen
Speaker 1: versus going into nineteen and what they were going to
Speaker 1: need to fix. Let's start, okay, coaching, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: to me, that's what I've seen. And again I always
Speaker 1: use the same example with Chris Rushar and what he's
Speaker 1: able to do. I think the Cowboys do have a
Speaker 1: very talented team. They've had a talented team for several years.
Speaker 1: But it's how you coach them, how you try to
Speaker 1: place them in the best scenarios possible, and I don't
Speaker 1: think I honestly have not felt that way when you
Speaker 1: watch the offense play and what the coordinator did. Hopefully
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore is able to bring a whole different game
Speaker 1: that is able to be more creative and help out
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett keep his job. But we'll have to see
Speaker 1: what happens there and how much freedom Jason Garrett allows
Speaker 1: Kellen to have. I think that's really well said, because
Speaker 1: I was going to say, like, my biggest problem with
Speaker 1: the offense from last year was probably you know, their
Speaker 1: offensive line wasn't dominant enough to just play bullyball, which
Speaker 1: it's the NFL. Like you're probably spoiled watching the Cowboys
Speaker 1: thinking that was possible. You know, they were so good
Speaker 1: in fourteen and so good in sixteen, but that's not
Speaker 1: the norm, and so they couldn't do it last year,
Speaker 1: and they couldn't adapt, Like, you know, if you couldn't
Speaker 1: just do the basic stuff well and run people over,
Speaker 1: they didn't really have an answer after that. And you
Speaker 1: can blame I mean, you can very easily blame that
Speaker 1: on coaching. I think they were predictable and stubborn and
Speaker 1: their Plan b's and Plant c's didn't really ever seem
Speaker 1: to go anywhere. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't
Speaker 1: think that they they can, just like they've said, push
Speaker 1: people around, and it was evident in the Indianapolis game
Speaker 1: and the Rams game and they got beat up up
Speaker 1: front and not having Frederick. It was a good replacement there.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Plan B. I mean it was a
Speaker 1: good replacement and Joe Looney, But Joe Looney is not
Speaker 1: gonna beat out Travis Frederick if he's healthy. We know that.
Speaker 1: So there's a drop off and it was shown in
Speaker 1: those games when you really faced some dominant lines. And
Speaker 1: let's be honest, Zach Martin didn't play that great in
Speaker 1: that Rams game either, So it was across the board.
Speaker 1: But I just think that the red zone that's when
Speaker 1: you really find out if you could knock people off
Speaker 1: the ball, and they struggled there. So they needed to
Speaker 1: They need to step up with their offensive line. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's all this money invested in this great line, but
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't show up that way. Will I agree
Speaker 1: with what you just said, but like I'm I'm reluctant
Speaker 1: to put it on the line themselves because you lose
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick before the season starts. Zack Martin was playing
Speaker 1: with a bum knee. Basically all year. You're rotating rookies
Speaker 1: and injured guys at left guard all season long. Tyrant
Speaker 1: Smith has had his injury concerns, which you know, no
Speaker 1: excuses in the NFL. I get that, But you got
Speaker 1: a scheme ways to work around that too, instead of
Speaker 1: just business as usual coaching, as if your line is
Speaker 1: as good as a use and your quarterback's got to
Speaker 1: be able to throw out of it, and sometimes he
Speaker 1: can and sometimes he can't. I mean, that's that's not
Speaker 1: his strength. Is just like, Okay, we're down by seventeen points,
Speaker 1: let's go and throw ourselves back in the game. That's
Speaker 1: not the way this offense is structured. Maybe it can
Speaker 1: be though now when you get a little bit more
Speaker 1: pieces in place. But that all being said, do you
Speaker 1: think that that's been their strategy for how they address
Speaker 1: that or do you think they've done something different this
Speaker 1: offseason in order to address that, because let's let's look
Speaker 1: at the bigger picture of that. It's scoring. Really, they
Speaker 1: just weren't able to score as many points as you'd
Speaker 1: like them to. Twenty second in the league and scoring, Uh,
Speaker 1: they weren't scoring about twenty I think it was twenty
Speaker 1: one points per game. It's not great, especially in the
Speaker 1: NFL where points are I mean there are a lot
Speaker 1: of teams scoring a lot of points. You think they
Speaker 1: want to score more than that. You could call it.
Speaker 1: They address that and you could call it bad if
Speaker 1: you want to. Can't. I mean, twenty second in the
Speaker 1: league isn't horrible, but it's not great, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's below mediocre? True, very true, it's very true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Jason Witten doesn't help them in the red zone,
Speaker 1: and then why is he back? You know, like, what
Speaker 1: what is he doing if he can't come in here
Speaker 1: and be better than the tight ends that that you
Speaker 1: have and be a better blocker or or you know whatever.
Speaker 1: He's got to be back here for a reason and
Speaker 1: he's not just like, well, there's open door policy whenever
Speaker 1: you want to come back. No, I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: to be able to help him and I'm not seeing
Speaker 1: he won't. I'm just saying that's got to be how
Speaker 1: do you address it? That's one way you bring in
Speaker 1: a guy that's that's headed to Canton. Hope, hopefully he
Speaker 1: still has something left and he's better than Charlton and Jolyn,
Speaker 1: because if he is, that's an upgrade. Obviously, this is
Speaker 1: a glass half full projection, but I like to think
Speaker 1: that bottle bottle all the way full. Right there. The
Speaker 1: hope is I think that they've added some pieces that
Speaker 1: can do good things better, if that makes sense. Case
Speaker 1: in point. You know, Cole Beasley, really good player, gets
Speaker 1: great separation. I know he caught the hail Mary against
Speaker 1: the Giants, but for the vast majority of his career
Speaker 1: we saw him do all of his work within eight
Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage. Not trying to undersell
Speaker 1: him as a player, but you can take that away.
Speaker 1: We saw it. We saw it for two years. You
Speaker 1: can take that away. You can sit on him, sit
Speaker 1: on those routes. You know. The Jaguars didn't feel that way,
Speaker 1: and he made him pay. But a lot of teams
Speaker 1: understood that and he wasn't a factor in a lot
Speaker 1: of games. I think if he's healthy, Randall Cobb do
Speaker 1: a lot of that short area stuff. He's also a
Speaker 1: more dynamic downfield receiver. You saw that for years in
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He does things that I don't think it
Speaker 1: was realistic to expect from Beasley. I hate to heap
Speaker 1: optimism on a rookie, but Tony Pollard, you know, we've
Speaker 1: seen what jet sweeps and stuff can do. You know,
Speaker 1: Lucky Whitehead, going back a few years, what they wanted
Speaker 1: from Tavon Austin what we saw at times. But he's
Speaker 1: more of a well rounded player. He can function as
Speaker 1: a running back, so they seem to think he can
Speaker 1: take some of that load off of Zeke while also
Speaker 1: being more of that gadget guy who can make those
Speaker 1: chunk plays and do those special things. So I think
Speaker 1: if these guys play the way that they hope they can,
Speaker 1: I think they offer the same stuff, but better, more
Speaker 1: well rounded, and I think that could make them more dangerous.
Speaker 1: You hit the nail on the head with the kind
Speaker 1: of you went through some of these. But what I
Speaker 1: want to do is I want to go round the
Speaker 1: table now and I'm going to throw out the guy
Speaker 1: that they had before and the guy or guys that
Speaker 1: replaced them, and I want to just get an idea
Speaker 1: of whether you think they're better or worse in those areas.
Speaker 1: Let's start first the running back position. Davey talked about
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard. Basically, the Cowboys let Rod Smith walk, which
Speaker 1: was no surprise to anyone, and they sighed they drafted
Speaker 1: two guys, Tony Pollard, Mike Weber Amber. Are they better
Speaker 1: at the running back depth than they were last year?
Speaker 1: I think they are. They have to be. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not like Rod Smith was giving you anything that
Speaker 1: would want to make you keep him at all being productive,
Speaker 1: so they have to be. These guys are young, they
Speaker 1: I mean Rod wasn't old either, but it's just something different, refreshing,
Speaker 1: and that gives you more hope than what you would
Speaker 1: have had with Rod Smith back here. Yes, and no,
Speaker 1: that they're better at running back, probably because he's could
Speaker 1: be more dynamic. I bet you Keith O'Quinn doesn't think so.
Speaker 1: And special teams, so because he was a he was
Speaker 1: a core player on the special teams unit, and so
Speaker 1: every time one of those guys leaves, you got to
Speaker 1: replace him with someone. And that could be a linebacker,
Speaker 1: that could be a tight end or whatever. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's not replaceable. But as for I don't
Speaker 1: think Paula is going to do what Smith does online
Speaker 1: and special teams. Let's see if someone that's the trigging
Speaker 1: part is like specifically here for this position, whether you
Speaker 1: need more production from special teams or running back when
Speaker 1: s has to come out. Yeah, So I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're right, all that sounds good until on a
Speaker 1: seventy four yard punt return goes and gets you to
Speaker 1: lose the game and you're like, guy, they were off
Speaker 1: here or whatever. But but I mean, I think you're
Speaker 1: willing to take that chance because you can replace him
Speaker 1: with other guys and you can figure out how to
Speaker 1: how to replace that. You do need a little bit
Speaker 1: more juice on offense, and he gives you that. So
Speaker 1: I will say offensively, yes, upgrade. Do you think Mike
Speaker 1: Webber ends up being his best shot at being able
Speaker 1: to even make this team is being able to play
Speaker 1: special teams, because if not, Darius Jackson still sitting there,
Speaker 1: and I think he's somewhat of a capable back. We
Speaker 1: haven't really seen him a lot, but from what we've seen,
Speaker 1: he looks like he could be capable back. Special teams
Speaker 1: will be the difference from Michael I think Webber, I mean,
Speaker 1: from what it sounds like, he's he's learning this game.
Speaker 1: He's trying to figure this out. His head is spending
Speaker 1: a little bit and this isn't This is not even
Speaker 1: easy transition for anybody. And I think it's he's a
Speaker 1: little bit more gifted as a running back. But it's
Speaker 1: very similar I think to what happened last year with
Speaker 1: both Scarborough. I mean you look at both Scarborough and
Speaker 1: you're like, he's making the team and then look like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you know he's productive at a at a
Speaker 1: pretty decent college, and and I think that you know
Speaker 1: a right same with Webber, And uh, Webber's a little
Speaker 1: bit more of a running back, but I still think
Speaker 1: he's got that challenge of trying to figure everything out.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be easy for him to make special teams,
Speaker 1: I do think. And yeah, they both Darius and Webber
Speaker 1: need to do special teams, and we've seen Darius do it.
Speaker 1: But at the risk of like lessening the drama. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that because Tony Pollard is not you know,
Speaker 1: he's not your bell cow guy. If if Zeke is
Speaker 1: unavailable for whatever reason, and I know they think the
Speaker 1: world of jamaz Ola Walle but I don't think they
Speaker 1: really want to go down that road either, So like
Speaker 1: they need a third running back, and if something were
Speaker 1: to happen to his Zeke, like I said last week,
Speaker 1: maybe they'd sign one. But they're still gonna be a
Speaker 1: third running back on this team. Absolutely. But my point
Speaker 1: is Garis Jackson would be like, oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't write DJ out at all. He
Speaker 1: told me last week he's he hasn't felt this good
Speaker 1: since before he got tore up his knee when he
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland, which you know, I know guys say
Speaker 1: that every spring, but he's he's a fourth year veteran,
Speaker 1: like he's been through this, so I think it would
Speaker 1: be a mistake to completely write him out of the picture. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. Let's talk about the tight
Speaker 1: end position. Cowboys. Let Jeff Swain walk. Obviously, they got
Speaker 1: Jason Witten back. Are they better there than they were before?
Speaker 1: In a chorus? Yes, are they? Oh? Okay, I got
Speaker 1: a disint. Are they better than they were last year? Yeah? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the question. Yes, But I'm like, I'm not just
Speaker 1: sold that the tight end position is like this strength now,
Speaker 1: Like I don't feel that way, and neither. Okay, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about just making sure we're I'm answering the right question.
Speaker 1: We're the point right now, better than they were, a
Speaker 1: lot better. Whatever they did this offseason, was that better
Speaker 1: than what they had last year? Yes? Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on to the wide receiver position.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley headed out to Buffalo Terrence Williams. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if he's been signed by anybody. I don't
Speaker 1: think he has. Cowboys. Then go and get Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: And you know, I threw in there just for kicks
Speaker 1: a little bit with Cedric Wilson, a guy that didn't
Speaker 1: play for them last year, and and so I'm kind
Speaker 1: of excited to see what he can bring. But he's
Speaker 1: a new piece for them in some respects. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he can actually make the team and if he
Speaker 1: can actually provide something for them, because that depth charts
Speaker 1: tough in the wide receiver room. But looking at where
Speaker 1: they were last year to where they are this year,
Speaker 1: are they better? Yes? If that's all we're answering. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think you actually miss and not.
Speaker 1: I mean, the two guys that are gonna make them
Speaker 1: better than they were last year are Michael Gallup and
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper because Cooper. This is a whole offseason that
Speaker 1: they didn't have. He was just on the fly. And
Speaker 1: if that's on the fly and it can be better
Speaker 1: than you know, sky's the limit there. And then same
Speaker 1: with Gallup. I think he has a chance to really
Speaker 1: be a dynamic player in this offense. And just those
Speaker 1: are the those are the big steps that I think.
Speaker 1: I don't know about the difference between Cobb and Beasley
Speaker 1: and then all those other guys you mentioned someone's going
Speaker 1: to emerge, and it sounds like John V. Johnson's going
Speaker 1: to Canton. So I mean, I'll you know, he's he's
Speaker 1: seen those before, right, We're seeing those every year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what though, just out here he's he's
Speaker 1: got he's got some some juice. That's great. You know
Speaker 1: what I want to see with those kind of guys.
Speaker 1: I want to see after about two weeks of training camp,
Speaker 1: what are they doing? Because we see these guys every
Speaker 1: year that will kind of catch your eye during OTA's
Speaker 1: even when you get to training camp the first week,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're doing great. How we're gonna manage
Speaker 1: to keep them on the roster. He's on the week, right,
Speaker 1: I get it. And then at the time you get
Speaker 1: the second week, it's like they just kind of he's
Speaker 1: on this team right now, Lance Lenor, he's a training
Speaker 1: camp champ two years right right, Yeah, has to tell
Speaker 1: you who they're not beating his Byron Jones, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a that's a good thing. He's
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl No, I'm just saying he's not out there.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a Pro Bowl cornerback. That that. I mean,
Speaker 1: all of those guys. You know, when you lose a
Speaker 1: player like that and you know he's not taking the
Speaker 1: reps and stuff like that. But I just think that overall,
Speaker 1: I think those two top receivers and then cop are
Speaker 1: going to make the whole group better. The thing what
Speaker 1: also helps, going back to your question of being better
Speaker 1: and other than last year, just knowing what you have
Speaker 1: a wide receiver somewhat you have a better idea of
Speaker 1: the group. You're not starting the season with the mindset of, oh,
Speaker 1: let's just have all these wide receivers in here and
Speaker 1: try them out and try this and that. Now you
Speaker 1: have I mean, they're still going to try different things
Speaker 1: and put guys different places, but you have a clear
Speaker 1: vision of what you have in the wide receiver group. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love this top three, the top three wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I think that's a good group. And if they can
Speaker 1: all stay healthy, I think the Cowboys can really get
Speaker 1: some production out of the wide receiver right receiver position.
Speaker 1: And the one guy that seems to be forgotten in
Speaker 1: this is is Alan Hearns because Hearns as the fourth
Speaker 1: guy and he's you know, saw him on the field
Speaker 1: the other day doing some pretty good stuff. Did not
Speaker 1: expect him to be doing what he's doing after seeing that,
Speaker 1: in like, I didn't even know if he'd be back again.
Speaker 1: So he has a chance to really help them. That
Speaker 1: gives them some quality depth that can do a bunch
Speaker 1: of different things. I've been saying for a while that
Speaker 1: it's like, well, your top three jobs are safe, and
Speaker 1: then everything else is a free for all. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably the top four. I think Hurns is on
Speaker 1: this team because of his He's a veteran, he can
Speaker 1: play both inside and out, but he is beloved. Can't
Speaker 1: understand how much I think that means, and so especially
Speaker 1: in this organization. And you know, and we're leaving out
Speaker 1: a guy that was picked eighth overall in the draft
Speaker 1: a few years ago, and I think Austin, Yeah, another
Speaker 1: wild card. Don't don't know what they're going to do
Speaker 1: with him. That'll be an interesting one, just because you know,
Speaker 1: obviously there's there's a lot of talent there, but you
Speaker 1: just haven't seen it yet. I'll say this about watching
Speaker 1: just a couple of practices that we get to see,
Speaker 1: we get to see one another one today, it just
Speaker 1: seems like the guys are just wide open, like like
Speaker 1: there's a guy always running free. And I don't know
Speaker 1: if that says anything good about the defense. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that this offense, it just feels like there's somebody
Speaker 1: wide open, like a running back here. And you know,
Speaker 1: I understand there's no pass rush show. You can sit
Speaker 1: there and go to your seventh read, but it just
Speaker 1: feels that way. You know, that may suggest and again
Speaker 1: I'd have to look a lot closer to know that,
Speaker 1: but it may suggest that maybe they're scheming guys open.
Speaker 1: You know, something that I don't think this offense has
Speaker 1: really done a lot of over the last several years,
Speaker 1: but you see a lot of other teams doing it
Speaker 1: quite well, being able to figure out ways to get
Speaker 1: guys open. By scheming it versus man on me and
Speaker 1: you can beat your guy, you know, I mean, then again,
Speaker 1: get d Law out there to rush, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see. Let's see how how much time you know
Speaker 1: Dad has. But he's throwing the ball well, and it
Speaker 1: seems like he's making good reads. All right, let's take
Speaker 1: our first break. When we come back, I'm gonna ask
Speaker 1: the question of all the things we've talked about in
Speaker 1: all the positions on the offense, which position still give
Speaker 1: give gives you reason to be concerned going into the
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen season. We'll talk about that when we come
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Speaker 1: of the Break Life from the s WBC Mortgage studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, we're gonna be ending today at ten
Speaker 1: to fifteen because we have locker room and coach garrets
Speaker 1: press conference, no Prescot press Scott is just locker room
Speaker 1: and then practice with these guys will head out other
Speaker 1: way around. I know, but I'm just saying fans don't.
Speaker 1: They won't be able to go. So it's directly you're
Speaker 1: right correct. So but we're gonna get some stuff for
Speaker 1: you guys, have some articles and some videos that will
Speaker 1: be producing today out of all that stuff, so you
Speaker 1: can see what's going on again this week. It's the
Speaker 1: final week of OTA mini camps start next week. I
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Um, and then
Speaker 1: everybody goes away, except when we won't go away. We
Speaker 1: won't be on air, but the players and coaches they
Speaker 1: go away. They get away for a little bit, and
Speaker 1: we will be heading a training camp in late July.
Speaker 1: So then it's that it's that dead period that we
Speaker 1: all dread. I guess all the listeners probably probably dread
Speaker 1: a little more than we do, but that little dead
Speaker 1: period and then we'll be back up and running an
Speaker 1: ox end of July. All right, So let's talk about
Speaker 1: We're talking about the offense, and I wanted to get
Speaker 1: your opinions on the on the overall offense. So thinking
Speaker 1: about everything we talked about, all the players, whether if
Speaker 1: they've changed out not being a whole lot, um, is
Speaker 1: there a position on the offense and if so, what
Speaker 1: is it and why, um that you still have concern
Speaker 1: about going into the twenty nineteen season center center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because we saw last year that you know that Looney
Speaker 1: can he can do a decent job or a good job,
Speaker 1: but but you know, they struggle against some of the
Speaker 1: overpowering defensive fronts and we'll see, And Frederick keeps saying,
Speaker 1: I don't know until I get on the pads on
Speaker 1: so we'll see. He's not going to commit to saying
Speaker 1: I feel better or whatever. So who knows if they've
Speaker 1: upgraded there. You just don't know if they have. Yeah.
Speaker 1: One of the things about that syndrome, from what I understand,
Speaker 1: is the strength is the part that goes. And so
Speaker 1: you're right. Until he puts on pads and has antoine
Speaker 1: woods in front of him and he's having to move
Speaker 1: antoine woods against his will, that's when he's gonna find
Speaker 1: out if he's strong enough to do it. And so
Speaker 1: you know you are you are gambling. We'll not gambling
Speaker 1: because you still have Joe Looney there, but but it
Speaker 1: is still a guess until you get to that point
Speaker 1: where you're having to see if he can really do
Speaker 1: his job. Absolutely, And I mean, you know, Connor Williams
Speaker 1: looks great, but it's it'd be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: the left guard position shakes out. Um, Tyrant Smith, you
Speaker 1: always wonder about his durability. Um, how's Lyle Collins gonna?
Speaker 1: You know, it seemed like he bounced back after the
Speaker 1: coaching change. You know at midpoint last season. How does
Speaker 1: he kind of carry that momentum going forward? I mean,
Speaker 1: just based on bodies, there's all the reason in the
Speaker 1: world to feel like the offensive line should be better
Speaker 1: this year, but gotta gotta see it. Yeah, it's offensive
Speaker 1: line overall, as you're um and a tight end. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, Jason Witten is definitely going to the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, but he took a year off and I
Speaker 1: think he would even admit that. You know, he wasn't
Speaker 1: as good in twenty seventeen as he was in even
Speaker 1: two thousan you know twelve, that was when he set
Speaker 1: the record, right, So you know, he's thirty seven years
Speaker 1: old and we still don't really know about Jarwin and
Speaker 1: Schultz behind him, so and feel better about it with
Speaker 1: him there. But I, like I said before, I don't
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it's just this super strength
Speaker 1: on the offense. Would you like to have seen them
Speaker 1: go out and do more at the tight end position
Speaker 1: this offseason? Whether that be in the draft, which questionable,
Speaker 1: whether you get somebody that late as far as you
Speaker 1: were picking, but even in free agency, do you think
Speaker 1: they should have done more? No? I don't think so,
Speaker 1: because yeah, whoever you draft in the second round, third round,
Speaker 1: fourth round, they're gonna have question marks. And and this
Speaker 1: is the the same with what you've got with Jarwin and Schultz.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, you've got guys that I think would
Speaker 1: be comparable to anybody you would draft at that stage,
Speaker 1: So why not let them develop and see? And then
Speaker 1: you've got Witten, So I don't know what other guy
Speaker 1: you could bring in here. I just think that these
Speaker 1: guys need to grow and this is the time to
Speaker 1: do it. And now if it's this more of the same,
Speaker 1: then yeah, next year, you know. But but if Schultz
Speaker 1: or Jarwin are going to do anything, let's let him
Speaker 1: do it. It would have been an amazing year to
Speaker 1: draft a tight end even at fifty eight. You know,
Speaker 1: if you really wanted to, you could have like trade
Speaker 1: it up for a Nerve Smith or you know, Jay
Speaker 1: Sternberger would have been there for you. But as soon
Speaker 1: as Witten decided to come back, you kind of just
Speaker 1: put all that on hold. And that's fine with me.
Speaker 1: I mean I kept saying, it's like, even, okay, you
Speaker 1: draft Jay Sternberger, like will he have the play strength
Speaker 1: and the wherewithal to really get snaps? In this offense
Speaker 1: because Jason Witten is going to take some and then
Speaker 1: you still got these two young guys that you want
Speaker 1: to find out about. So where does a rookie fit
Speaker 1: into that? So if the alternative is Jay Sternberger being
Speaker 1: inactive or just wait until next year to address the problem,
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. But that is a position where
Speaker 1: they probably need to spend some resources. I don't think
Speaker 1: it matters that they didn't do it this year, but
Speaker 1: that day is coming. Are we writing off freeco? I
Speaker 1: mean to make the thing well, I mean, here's the deal.
Speaker 1: He's been this is going to be his fourth season
Speaker 1: I think to play football. Yeah, but I understand that,
Speaker 1: but that at some point you have to be able
Speaker 1: to make a decision to say, Okay, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that he's not played football at this point, we have
Speaker 1: to make a decision is he going to be able
Speaker 1: to play football at a high level? And if he's not,
Speaker 1: and if you think he's not, or do you think
Speaker 1: it's gonna it's gonna require a lot more years. You
Speaker 1: really don't have a lot more years, right, No, I
Speaker 1: think that was it for him. As far as this
Speaker 1: is the make or break, I'm not saying he won't
Speaker 1: make the team. I'm just saying I don't think he
Speaker 1: gets any more chances of like, let's just let's develop him.
Speaker 1: This is it. I would never dream of writing him
Speaker 1: off as a chance to make the team because he's
Speaker 1: still here. Man, the depth chart doesn't really demand that.
Speaker 1: You have to know, right, and I feel I mean,
Speaker 1: I feel like we've said make or break for him
Speaker 1: every year since his rookie year probably, so I'm not
Speaker 1: writing him off to make the team. But if he's
Speaker 1: going to make meaningful contributions again, I want to see
Speaker 1: it before I just believe that it's going to happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I want to see it in a real game
Speaker 1: because I know he can box out you know, a
Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, he can do that in the preseason.
Speaker 1: That's not impressive anymore. So the question is it will
Speaker 1: even be able to make the active roster. Now, you
Speaker 1: got Jason there every week last week, I mean last
Speaker 1: year he was active for what fifteen out of sixteen games.
Speaker 1: That was also because Jeff Swain was hurt for a
Speaker 1: good part of the year, So you know, I wonder,
Speaker 1: I wonder now what that means with Jason being here
Speaker 1: is he even if he's on this team, is he
Speaker 1: even going to get an opportunity to really show you anything?
Speaker 1: A lot of weird A lot of weird stuff there.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're going to keep a fullback, so that's
Speaker 1: a spot. You know, do they keep three quarterbacks? Do
Speaker 1: they keep four tight ends? They've got an absurd amount
Speaker 1: of depth on the offensive line. How many guys do
Speaker 1: they feel like they want to keep there? I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's also the development of Schultz. It will be a
Speaker 1: part of that too, in jar Rom because last year,
Speaker 1: right at the end of training camp, he I mean,
Speaker 1: Schultz wasn't better than Rico last year that training game. Now,
Speaker 1: I think as the year went on, you saw he
Speaker 1: improved a lot more and Rico kind of stayed right there. Sonny,
Speaker 1: he passed it, which is why you're a fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: And so as long as he keeps doing that, I
Speaker 1: think it'll be hard for Rico to make it. But
Speaker 1: if they get to the end of camp and it's
Speaker 1: close again, I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're gonna cut Shoulta, just meaning I think
Speaker 1: they might keep a fourth tight end, giving him the
Speaker 1: I don't see, like, why would you keep four? They
Speaker 1: did last year. I get it last year, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they've kept less than four. I just think
Speaker 1: they wanted to keep him and they just don't want
Speaker 1: him going to Yeah, but I mean, you gotta be
Speaker 1: smart about it. You've got other positions that you probably
Speaker 1: need a deeper, you know, depth there. But and then
Speaker 1: another one would be going back to your original question.
Speaker 1: I was going to mention the quarterback position, which hopefully
Speaker 1: something that you won't need during the year. As far
Speaker 1: as the backup quarterbacks, what I'm seeing in practice is
Speaker 1: still doesn't excite me. You know, you see them completing
Speaker 1: some passes, Mason some, but at the same time, there's
Speaker 1: nothing that makes one of them stand out versus the other.
Speaker 1: It's very similar in a way. You know, they each
Speaker 1: have their own qualities, but nothing that really makes them
Speaker 1: stand out. And that concerns me in that aspect, because
Speaker 1: God forbid anything happens to Dad. But we know how
Speaker 1: the NFL works and it's unpredictable. Any injuries can't happen
Speaker 1: any given moment, and I don't really feel comfortable with
Speaker 1: the backup position at this time. But let's talk about
Speaker 1: alternatives there. Let's assume for a second that there's some
Speaker 1: free agent out there that's a veteran that you think
Speaker 1: maybe we can go get him and bring him in
Speaker 1: once you get through a training camp, because you don't
Speaker 1: feel very comfortable about those two. How comfortable do you
Speaker 1: feel with the idea that even though it's going to
Speaker 1: be a veteran, it will be a veteran that's coming
Speaker 1: into a system that they don't know having to now
Speaker 1: not get a lot of snaps, but be ready to
Speaker 1: jump in at a moment's notice to relieve if Dad
Speaker 1: should go down. Versus having these two guys that, regardless
Speaker 1: of what you think their skill level is right now,
Speaker 1: they do it at least know the offense. They've been
Speaker 1: here for a while, and you feel maybe a little
Speaker 1: more comfortable with the idea that they can step in
Speaker 1: at a moment's notice and actually give you relief. That's
Speaker 1: one of those like it's a great idea in theory,
Speaker 1: but I mean, and I don't know this, we haven't
Speaker 1: seen enough of them. But like I think back to
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, You're like, well, he's he's been here, He's
Speaker 1: been here all through the offseason. He knows this, he
Speaker 1: knows that, and then like the game starts and you're like,
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't have it. He just doesn't, which you know,
Speaker 1: only time is gonna tell. Like yeah, I mean like
Speaker 1: basically my read on it, and not to write off
Speaker 1: Mike White too early or Cooper Rush for that matter,
Speaker 1: but like they're comfortable in the knowledge that they're probably
Speaker 1: screwed if dec gets hurt, Like that's my that's my
Speaker 1: read on it. You just think they know, well that
Speaker 1: goes down. I mean, they're like, he's he's he's twenty,
Speaker 1: he'll be twenty six when the season starts. He's never
Speaker 1: like I don't think he's ever missed a snap, you know.
Speaker 1: I know he got hurt in Washington, but he came back.
Speaker 1: You know, he's never missed time. He's built like a tank.
Speaker 1: He's young and healthy. I think they're just like, you know,
Speaker 1: if something really horrendous happens to then that's just that's
Speaker 1: just some really crappy luck. And we've got enough money
Speaker 1: to pay out everywhere else that we can't afford to
Speaker 1: have an eight million dollars a year backup, you know whatever,
Speaker 1: ten million dollars year backup sitting on our roster. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, I'm not saying that's necessarily
Speaker 1: the right idea. That's just the strategy that they are
Speaker 1: pursuing right now, because I don't you can't convince me
Speaker 1: that they would feel comfortable starting either of those guys
Speaker 1: for more than a game or two if they had to.
Speaker 1: The one thing I will say, though, is we don't
Speaker 1: know when we're not there seeing practice, what those two
Speaker 1: guys look like. Because even at that though, when we
Speaker 1: go back to a few years ago when Dak, when
Speaker 1: they made the decision we're gonna go with Dak, and
Speaker 1: I know most of us, and I'm talking about the media,
Speaker 1: most of us are like, crazy, You're crazy. You're saying
Speaker 1: we're just going to roll with Dak versus going out
Speaker 1: and getting a veteran that's actually done it. And then
Speaker 1: because and mainly that was because of what we saw
Speaker 1: in practice. In practice, he wasn't a good player in practice,
Speaker 1: but what we saw when the lights came on all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, this guy turned into a really good quarterback.
Speaker 1: And so he turned into a good quarterback. But he also,
Speaker 1: you know, none of these guys that we see in practice,
Speaker 1: preseason games or whatever. They ever really get to play
Speaker 1: behind Zach Martin, Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick. They don't. And
Speaker 1: they don't really hand the ball off to Zeke. They're
Speaker 1: handing the ball off to Strew Ben Melina or something
Speaker 1: like that. I mean, And so I just feel like,
Speaker 1: you know, got great players make you look better. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying and Dad, you're right, he does turn
Speaker 1: it on. He does. He does play better when the
Speaker 1: lights are on, which is good. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Mike White, Cooper Rush do that as well, And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they do. I'm just saying we got to
Speaker 1: be a bit careful because you just don't know what
Speaker 1: what would happen if they had an opportunity to get
Speaker 1: in the look better. They'll look look better, right with
Speaker 1: those lines, But they're also being said there's also better
Speaker 1: players on the other side that are manually breaking up
Speaker 1: those passes they throw. And speaking of Dak, you know
Speaker 1: how you mentioned, oh, he's not a great practice guy.
Speaker 1: There's something about him this year. I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: hard to tell, but it's hard to say that he
Speaker 1: looks confident because he's always been a confident guy. But
Speaker 1: there's something that when I go out there and watch him,
Speaker 1: and yes, he misses some passes, but something about him
Speaker 1: makes me feel like he feels a lot more comfortable
Speaker 1: and just a lot more secure and more knowledge of
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I don't know if you guys notice
Speaker 1: anything different, but that's just kind of the air I'm
Speaker 1: sensing from him that it's different from previous years. There's
Speaker 1: some kind of growth, and it makes me feel like
Speaker 1: he's going to have a really good season to the
Speaker 1: point where he goes out there, he's gonna be more clean,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to do certain things where he's
Speaker 1: contributing more on the offense. And it's early for me
Speaker 1: to say, well, maybe John kidnap because he just got here.
Speaker 1: There's no way you could have made that change so quickly.
Speaker 1: But something about him makes me really excited. All those
Speaker 1: things might be the cause, and that sounds good. We
Speaker 1: don't know that, but the effect is he's throwing the
Speaker 1: ball much better. That's just clear. You could see that,
Speaker 1: and so all those things probably are true than they're
Speaker 1: helping this at the end. The end result is he
Speaker 1: looks like he's more confident because he's throwing the ball
Speaker 1: down the field better that that's the one thing for me.
Speaker 1: Seventeen to twenty five yards, those passes look better. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've seen the deep ball. He'll connect every now and again,
Speaker 1: and definitely you know, knows where to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: dump it off and make some plays with his legs.
Speaker 1: But just throwing the ball, you know, intermediate, that looks
Speaker 1: better to me. I agree, I completely agree. I always
Speaker 1: try to guard against feeling too optimistic about something I
Speaker 1: see an OTAs, but he looked last week. He looked great,
Speaker 1: He looked crisp, He looks accurate, especially when you compare
Speaker 1: him to every time we see him at practice for
Speaker 1: a previous year, it's just like, Wow, what is he doing?
Speaker 1: And then he yeah, the game comes on, lights come on,
Speaker 1: and he does better. But when he comes to practice,
Speaker 1: I think we've seen a big change their improvement that
Speaker 1: it's noticeable. And honestly, this this should be if you
Speaker 1: look at the progression of quarterbacks around the NFL, this
Speaker 1: should be the year when you should expect to see
Speaker 1: a jump in Dak Prescott. And what I mean by
Speaker 1: that is, if he's going to be your quarterback of
Speaker 1: the future. They're gonna be some games a Dak's gonna
Speaker 1: win with his arm Like that just happens with quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: You see it as as they get farther along. Sometimes
Speaker 1: happens in third year, sometimes in the fourth year. But
Speaker 1: you see that, you see that maturation into oh my god,
Speaker 1: now they're winning because of this guy, not necessarily because
Speaker 1: of everything else that's around him. And I think that
Speaker 1: that's that's what he's gonna have to do in order
Speaker 1: to really kind of prove that out. I think I
Speaker 1: just laugh because you said this is the year you're
Speaker 1: gonna see a big jump, like he's gonna see a
Speaker 1: big jump as well, and no doubt, paid, no doubt
Speaker 1: his big book will be a lot, yeah, a lot heavy,
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Speaker 1: It is the final segment of the Break Lapness WBC
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Speaker 1: next to last show next week to our final show
Speaker 1: before we take a little break here heading into training
Speaker 1: camp in late July. So what we're gonna do. Right now,
Speaker 1: it's gonna play a little game of CE or No. Now,
Speaker 1: these are all questions. Yeah, these are all questions that
Speaker 1: have fans sent into me, and unfortunately they kind of
Speaker 1: hit on the subjects and topics that we've already been
Speaker 1: talking about. So we're just gonna wrap it up, do
Speaker 1: a little summary. So start off with Rico Gathers. Does
Speaker 1: he make the team? CE or no? See see, okay,
Speaker 1: see I'm gonna go see Oh wow, that's as always
Speaker 1: these are. This is what I think will happen, not
Speaker 1: what I would do. David, do you want Rico Gathers
Speaker 1: to make the team seven? Well, that's like I just,
Speaker 1: you know, anything personal. I have nothing personal against Rico
Speaker 1: Gathers to this point. I just I'm not sure the
Speaker 1: purpose that he serves. Yeah, question is if you were
Speaker 1: making the decision with would Rico make this team? Probably not,
Speaker 1: and that would probably be no. Let's say if he
Speaker 1: if he makes the team, you know, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of praise. Just like Christopher Shark gets a
Speaker 1: lot of praise, There's gonna be a lot more praise
Speaker 1: on Doug nust Meyer. I mean he you know, he's
Speaker 1: he's having to really do a lot of teaching with
Speaker 1: these younger players, and if he can get him to
Speaker 1: be a guy that can kind of understand, you know,
Speaker 1: who to block and leverage and how to get him,
Speaker 1: you know, pushed out. I mean, it'll be it'll be
Speaker 1: a big win for him if the user can can
Speaker 1: get him kind of to that level. The most interesting
Speaker 1: part about all of this is that he looks the part.
Speaker 1: You look at him, he's huge, he looks like he
Speaker 1: would be strong. He has athleticism, right, and so you're
Speaker 1: you keep That's the part that's hard to say he's
Speaker 1: gonna not be with the team is because you're just like, man,
Speaker 1: at some point, doesn't this just have to click with
Speaker 1: one of those things, whether it's blocking, whether it's catching,
Speaker 1: one of those things. Yeah, I know, and they're they're
Speaker 1: the NFL is literally Peppi's owner is always my example,
Speaker 1: Like you look at him and you're like, that's a
Speaker 1: defensive end for an NFL team. Scouting loves him. Scouting
Speaker 1: absolutely in love with Rico. Yeah gathers. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: you go, I don't know about the coaching, but that's
Speaker 1: why they they're looking at the attributes, right, They're looking
Speaker 1: at the attributes that this player has and they're like,
Speaker 1: if you could just tap into that and get him
Speaker 1: to do one of those things really well, which everything
Speaker 1: only did it take Graham and Gates, but they at
Speaker 1: least played football, I know, But I mean, how how
Speaker 1: long when they were pretty good early? Right? I mean
Speaker 1: Graham came to football pretty late too, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: think I mean he blew up in like his second season. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just this is it, this is the time. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna He's not gonna make the team, I
Speaker 1: don't think, because he's like, well, we just want to
Speaker 1: see if the light will come on. Either the light
Speaker 1: comes on and he makes the team, or if he doesn't,
Speaker 1: I think you move on. Maybe he's something I really
Speaker 1: didn't think about until we were just talking about this.
Speaker 1: He could be a beneficiary of Kellen Moore just as
Speaker 1: much because let's maybe maybe you just wake up and
Speaker 1: stop trying to make him a complete tight end. Jimmy
Speaker 1: Graham's not a complete tight end. It never has been.
Speaker 1: He is a red zone threat. So if Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: maybe uses him that way, stops trying to turn him
Speaker 1: into Jason Witten and just recognize that he's a maybe
Speaker 1: a one dimensional, but very talented player. Yep, maybe this
Speaker 1: could be a bigger run getting the box out and
Speaker 1: catch the ball. I promise you if he was a
Speaker 1: on forty eight yard field goals and more, if he
Speaker 1: was a one two jump guy, he'd block at least
Speaker 1: three kicks a year. I mean, tell me how he
Speaker 1: couldn't He can. He's huge, and he can jump. He
Speaker 1: can rebound, lead the nation in rebounding one two jump.
Speaker 1: Time it up right, He'll block some kicks if those
Speaker 1: guys that can push in front, there's no way that
Speaker 1: he can't block a few kicks. That right, there is
Speaker 1: a turnover if you can block a field goal that's
Speaker 1: fifty yards. Yeah, but that's it. I mean, maybe it
Speaker 1: is Kellen roll for him. Kellen Moore is about to
Speaker 1: revitalize like nine careers. Scare ready? All right? You mentioned
Speaker 1: Jason Witten with all the weapons that that has now
Speaker 1: in having him back, does Witten surpassed the five hundred
Speaker 1: yard mark this season? C or no? Five hundred? Uh yeah?
Speaker 1: Say no, no? Yeah, to many other weapons? I think
Speaker 1: so five hundred yards. He's gonna have like sixty five
Speaker 1: catches for five hundred yards. I don't believe that's my guess,
Speaker 1: that's that's what he was doing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'm I wouldn't say I would say no, And I
Speaker 1: would probably put him somewhere more like about forty catches
Speaker 1: thirty eight and more like about yeah, maybe about three
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards somewhere in there, because I just
Speaker 1: think there's so many weapons on the team. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be looking at gallop down the field quite
Speaker 1: a bit. I think that Mark Cooper's is gonna get
Speaker 1: his Randall Cobb. I think, you know, backside of the
Speaker 1: backfield gonna catch. I mean, there's there's not it ain't
Speaker 1: a lot of if this, if this, I haven't checked
Speaker 1: on the fact, and like his stats for all his years,
Speaker 1: but this guy says that beside he did five hundred
Speaker 1: besides his rookie year every year. So Jason Witten is
Speaker 1: gonna eat half of the dump offs that Zeke got.
Speaker 1: You know Zeke at seventy seven balls last year. You think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do, that's that's what he'll do. And like I said,
Speaker 1: like he'll hit five hundred, but it'll be on a
Speaker 1: lot of catches like that means you also think that
Speaker 1: he's going to be playing the number of snaps that
Speaker 1: he played before left been saying that since then. That's
Speaker 1: sign that's an upgrade to me, that getting some of
Speaker 1: those catches with Zeke because it's good. Yes, every year,
Speaker 1: Zeke's gonna go sixty yards seventy yards with one of
Speaker 1: those screens, but but it's usually a design play. It's
Speaker 1: not a dump off play, and a dump off to Witten,
Speaker 1: I think it will still get you more yards. So
Speaker 1: I think that's a better that's a better safety valve
Speaker 1: to have. I think those dump off is gonna go
Speaker 1: to Randall Cobb and maybe Tony Pollard more than they'll
Speaker 1: go to Witten. He's gonna hit five hundred. We might
Speaker 1: see him get the ball in of but well, it
Speaker 1: can be tricky because Zeke we always talked about him
Speaker 1: getting those little yards and it all adds up at
Speaker 1: the end. I see Jason Witna being kind of the
Speaker 1: same thing where it's not very many yards, it'll be,
Speaker 1: you know, close. If Zeke catches the ball thirty yard
Speaker 1: line and goes forward and he gets to the thirty
Speaker 1: two thirty three after a hit, if Witton catches at
Speaker 1: the thirty. It's at the thirty. Yeah, there's just not
Speaker 1: a lot of dragon going on. Do we still have time?
Speaker 1: Oh no, we don't have to be the end, all right.
Speaker 1: So we're we're done, We're out of here. We will
Speaker 1: be back next week. We'll get into the defense. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of positions we gotta hit. There. Some different
Speaker 1: changes at the Cowboys have made till then for Nick,
Speaker 1: even Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek, he goes from.
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