WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Keep The Change? 0:00:01.960 --> 0:00:04.480 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.519 --> 0:00:07.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:11.400 a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely? 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.720 Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that. 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:21.120 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:26.239 Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and 0:00:26.560 --> 0:00:30.960 Derek Eagleton. It is Wednesday, June fifth, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.960 Episode number twelve. Welcome to another edition of The Break. 0:00:34.200 --> 0:00:36.519 We're li from the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.959 Star and today we're gonna talk offense. This is one 0:00:40.000 --> 0:00:42.640 of our final two shows before we take a little 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.080 break here before training camp, and so we're gonna do 0:00:45.120 --> 0:00:47.400 a two part series year. The first part we'll be 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.720 on offense. Today we'll talk about some of the changes 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.159 that this team has made, where we see areas that 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.400 they may need still need to do a little bit more, 0:00:56.160 --> 0:00:58.480 and just our overall thoughts on the offense based on 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:02.440 everything that's happened through draft and free agency on the offense. 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:04.160 And then next week we'll jump into defense and do 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.080 the exact same thing before we head out for a 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:10.720 little bit of rest. How's everybody doing a name, good, good, great, awesome, 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:13.880 let's jump into it. I was looking through the as 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:15.440 I was preparing for this show. I was looking through 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.920 the list of changes that have happened on the offensive 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.360 side of the ball. And I don't know that I've 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.000 ever remembered a time now. My memory is really bad. 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:24.640 So that's why I'm gonna ask you guys this question. 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:27.480 I ever remember a time when they've made so few 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:30.640 real changes. I mean, when you look at the offense, 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:33.119 there are a couple pieces that they changed here and there, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:36.560 but overall, it really, it really is gonna look a 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.960 lot like it looked last season. You guys agree with that. 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:43.240 On the field, yes, but you know, there's a new 0:01:43.240 --> 0:01:47.600 offensive coordinator and there's a new quarterback coach, so that's 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:50.080 the biggest changes there. Those are things that you don't 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.320 necessarily will see and well we'll you know, only time 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:55.960 will tell how much will it'll actually show on the field. 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:59.000 But as far as personnel goes, you know, other than 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:02.600 a sixteen year veteran, you know, future Hall of Famer 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:05.040 that came back, that's about it. Though. Yeah, it's a 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.840 good team. Though, it's a good offense, and you don't 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:08.760 need to change a lot of things. No respect for 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.760 the nine year veteran Pro Bowl receiver. No, and again 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:14.280 I'm not saying they didn't make any change. I'm just 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.519 saying just overall, No, it weren't a lot of changes. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.440 I'm like, I'm I don't know if I agree with 0:02:19.440 --> 0:02:21.120 you or not, Like I'm just trying to think. I mean, 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.200 on one hand, like you haven't seen a lot of 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:26.959 wholesale changes from year to year, But on the other hand, 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:30.120 like we're only three years removed from Tony Romo, you know, 0:02:30.240 --> 0:02:34.320 So yeah, I guess I see. I mean it's you know, 0:02:34.400 --> 0:02:37.600 Cole Beasley swap out Cole Beasley for Randall cop and 0:02:37.639 --> 0:02:39.840 that's really and yeah, I mean, I know, Jason Witten's back, 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:42.080 but all the other tight ends are the same, and 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:44.680 it's not like he's a new face. So yeah, you're 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:47.160 probably right, I think there. I mean, I see it 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.160 as a lot of changes offensively, offensively because you have 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.920 restructured your whole offense since a few years ago, and 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:58.120 it takes a while when you're rebuilding a team, which 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:01.040 I don't think was expected by anyone. But that's just 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:03.120 how it kind of turned out, right, now you have 0:03:03.160 --> 0:03:06.520 a completely different team, and when you do that, it 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:08.840 takes you a few years to get to that point 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:13.400 where you're able to kind of glue all the pieces 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.600 together and give it your all and make it a 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:21.000 run to like an actual run closer to the Super Bowl. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:22.840 You know, Yeah, I get what you're saying. If you're 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:26.080 talking about over the last few years, then yeah, I 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.920 think I think it was being Dave. I think we 0:03:27.919 --> 0:03:30.120 were having this conversation a while back, maybe a few 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:32.760 maybe a week or two ago, about the fact that 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:35.680 they've completely flipped this offense. I mean, this wide receiver 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:37.920 group if you go back a few years now, just 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:39.800 last year. Obviously they want a whole lot of changes, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.480 but if you go back a few years, I mean 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.360 you're talking about some big changes overall. They've changed their 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:46.360 wide receiver group almost together, if you want to go 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.119 back to twenty sixteen, almost all this offense is relatively new, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.520 except for the offensive line, right. So yeah, from that standpoint, 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:55.800 they have they've completely flipped this thing. But just in 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:57.880 this last year, it doesn't seem like there's been aline. 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.680 It's drastically different, kind of like a glacier, you know, 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:03.480 like they move an inch at a time, and it 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:05.560 seems really slow. But then all of a sudden, all 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:08.520 this crazy stuff has happened, because yeah, we're two years 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:12.880 removed from the receiver corps being Dez, Terrence Cole, Bryce Butler, 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.560 Lucky white Head. Yeah, and now it's like none of 0:04:17.600 --> 0:04:20.359 those guys are all gone, which I guess it's the 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.880 same from November of last year. You know, Cooper Gallup starting, 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:28.040 you bring in Randall cover places calls. So it's a 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.320 little bit of both. So let's let's look at this 0:04:30.360 --> 0:04:34.160 big picture. Let's go back to twenty eighteen, and I 0:04:34.200 --> 0:04:37.040 want you guys to tell me, coming out of twenty eighteen, 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:40.520 what did you think was the biggest issue, the biggest 0:04:40.600 --> 0:04:43.560 challenge for this offense from what you saw in eighteen 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:46.280 versus going into nineteen and what they were going to 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:49.880 need to fix. Let's start, okay, coaching, Yeah, I mean 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:54.200 to me, that's what I've seen. And again I always 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.640 use the same example with Chris Rushar and what he's 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.760 able to do. I think the Cowboys do have a 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:03.640 very talented team. They've had a talented team for several years. 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.680 But it's how you coach them, how you try to 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.159 place them in the best scenarios possible, and I don't 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.479 think I honestly have not felt that way when you 0:05:15.520 --> 0:05:19.799 watch the offense play and what the coordinator did. Hopefully 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.400 Kellen Moore is able to bring a whole different game 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:25.760 that is able to be more creative and help out 0:05:26.080 --> 0:05:29.679 Jason Garrett keep his job. But we'll have to see 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:34.120 what happens there and how much freedom Jason Garrett allows 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.800 Kellen to have. I think that's really well said, because 0:05:37.839 --> 0:05:40.000 I was going to say, like, my biggest problem with 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:44.520 the offense from last year was probably you know, their 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:49.480 offensive line wasn't dominant enough to just play bullyball, which 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:54.040 it's the NFL. Like you're probably spoiled watching the Cowboys 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:56.120 thinking that was possible. You know, they were so good 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.040 in fourteen and so good in sixteen, but that's not 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:01.599 the norm, and so they couldn't do it last year, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.840 and they couldn't adapt, Like, you know, if you couldn't 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:07.159 just do the basic stuff well and run people over, 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.839 they didn't really have an answer after that. And you 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:12.719 can blame I mean, you can very easily blame that 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.120 on coaching. I think they were predictable and stubborn and 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.640 their Plan b's and Plant c's didn't really ever seem 0:06:18.680 --> 0:06:21.600 to go anywhere. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:24.279 think that they they can, just like they've said, push 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:28.360 people around, and it was evident in the Indianapolis game 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:30.640 and the Rams game and they got beat up up 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:34.560 front and not having Frederick. It was a good replacement there. 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.839 Like you said, Plan B. I mean it was a 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:39.960 good replacement and Joe Looney, But Joe Looney is not 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:43.240 gonna beat out Travis Frederick if he's healthy. We know that. 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.920 So there's a drop off and it was shown in 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.080 those games when you really faced some dominant lines. And 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:51.279 let's be honest, Zach Martin didn't play that great in 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:54.000 that Rams game either, So it was across the board. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:57.800 But I just think that the red zone that's when 0:06:57.839 --> 0:06:59.680 you really find out if you could knock people off 0:06:59.720 --> 0:07:02.919 the ball, and they struggled there. So they needed to 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:04.920 They need to step up with their offensive line. I mean, 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:07.800 there's all this money invested in this great line, but 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.960 sometimes it doesn't show up that way. Will I agree 0:07:11.000 --> 0:07:13.560 with what you just said, but like I'm I'm reluctant 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.400 to put it on the line themselves because you lose 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:19.880 Travis Frederick before the season starts. Zack Martin was playing 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:24.560 with a bum knee. Basically all year. You're rotating rookies 0:07:24.600 --> 0:07:27.720 and injured guys at left guard all season long. Tyrant 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:29.880 Smith has had his injury concerns, which you know, no 0:07:29.960 --> 0:07:32.640 excuses in the NFL. I get that, But you got 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.480 a scheme ways to work around that too, instead of 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:39.600 just business as usual coaching, as if your line is 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.240 as good as a use and your quarterback's got to 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:44.800 be able to throw out of it, and sometimes he 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 can and sometimes he can't. I mean, that's that's not 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:51.800 his strength. Is just like, Okay, we're down by seventeen points, 0:07:51.880 --> 0:07:54.960 let's go and throw ourselves back in the game. That's 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.240 not the way this offense is structured. Maybe it can 0:07:57.320 --> 0:07:59.240 be though now when you get a little bit more 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.240 pieces in place. But that all being said, do you 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:03.920 think that that's been their strategy for how they address 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:06.240 that or do you think they've done something different this 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:09.000 offseason in order to address that, because let's let's look 0:08:09.000 --> 0:08:11.240 at the bigger picture of that. It's scoring. Really, they 0:08:11.240 --> 0:08:13.240 just weren't able to score as many points as you'd 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.600 like them to. Twenty second in the league and scoring, Uh, 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:17.559 they weren't scoring about twenty I think it was twenty 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.400 one points per game. It's not great, especially in the 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.520 NFL where points are I mean there are a lot 0:08:22.520 --> 0:08:24.520 of teams scoring a lot of points. You think they 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:26.160 want to score more than that. You could call it. 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:27.760 They address that and you could call it bad if 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:29.800 you want to. Can't. I mean, twenty second in the 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:34.440 league isn't horrible, but it's not great, you know, if 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.720 it's below mediocre? True, very true, it's very true. Yeah, 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:42.320 if Jason Witten doesn't help them in the red zone, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:44.800 and then why is he back? You know, like, what 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.559 what is he doing if he can't come in here 0:08:47.559 --> 0:08:49.640 and be better than the tight ends that that you 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.120 have and be a better blocker or or you know whatever. 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:55.400 He's got to be back here for a reason and 0:08:55.480 --> 0:08:57.760 he's not just like, well, there's open door policy whenever 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.120 you want to come back. No, I mean, he's got 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:00.440 to be able to help him and I'm not seeing 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.959 he won't. I'm just saying that's got to be how 0:09:02.960 --> 0:09:05.240 do you address it? That's one way you bring in 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:08.240 a guy that's that's headed to Canton. Hope, hopefully he 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.160 still has something left and he's better than Charlton and Jolyn, 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.559 because if he is, that's an upgrade. Obviously, this is 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:16.559 a glass half full projection, but I like to think 0:09:17.440 --> 0:09:22.000 that bottle bottle all the way full. Right there. The 0:09:22.000 --> 0:09:24.720 hope is I think that they've added some pieces that 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:29.080 can do good things better, if that makes sense. Case 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:33.520 in point. You know, Cole Beasley, really good player, gets 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.760 great separation. I know he caught the hail Mary against 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:39.240 the Giants, but for the vast majority of his career 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.360 we saw him do all of his work within eight 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.320 yards of the line of scrimmage. Not trying to undersell 0:09:44.400 --> 0:09:46.480 him as a player, but you can take that away. 0:09:46.559 --> 0:09:48.440 We saw it. We saw it for two years. You 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.040 can take that away. You can sit on him, sit 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.120 on those routes. You know. The Jaguars didn't feel that way, 0:09:53.120 --> 0:09:54.640 and he made him pay. But a lot of teams 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.280 understood that and he wasn't a factor in a lot 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.280 of games. I think if he's healthy, Randall Cobb do 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:03.000 a lot of that short area stuff. He's also a 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:05.640 more dynamic downfield receiver. You saw that for years in 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:08.400 Green Bay. He does things that I don't think it 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:11.720 was realistic to expect from Beasley. I hate to heap 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:15.160 optimism on a rookie, but Tony Pollard, you know, we've 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:17.760 seen what jet sweeps and stuff can do. You know, 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:21.079 Lucky Whitehead, going back a few years, what they wanted 0:10:21.120 --> 0:10:24.559 from Tavon Austin what we saw at times. But he's 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.319 more of a well rounded player. He can function as 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.560 a running back, so they seem to think he can 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:31.320 take some of that load off of Zeke while also 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:35.640 being more of that gadget guy who can make those 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.520 chunk plays and do those special things. So I think 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.320 if these guys play the way that they hope they can, 0:10:41.440 --> 0:10:45.079 I think they offer the same stuff, but better, more 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.640 well rounded, and I think that could make them more dangerous. 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:49.720 You hit the nail on the head with the kind 0:10:49.720 --> 0:10:51.360 of you went through some of these. But what I 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:52.440 want to do is I want to go round the 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.280 table now and I'm going to throw out the guy 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.600 that they had before and the guy or guys that 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.040 replaced them, and I want to just get an idea 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.600 of whether you think they're better or worse in those areas. 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:03.760 Let's start first the running back position. Davey talked about 0:11:03.760 --> 0:11:06.720 Tony Pollard. Basically, the Cowboys let Rod Smith walk, which 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:10.400 was no surprise to anyone, and they sighed they drafted 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:13.360 two guys, Tony Pollard, Mike Weber Amber. Are they better 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:16.040 at the running back depth than they were last year? 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:18.040 I think they are. They have to be. I mean, 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:22.160 it's not like Rod Smith was giving you anything that 0:11:22.200 --> 0:11:25.079 would want to make you keep him at all being productive, 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:29.679 so they have to be. These guys are young, they 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:35.000 I mean Rod wasn't old either, but it's just something different, refreshing, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.720 and that gives you more hope than what you would 0:11:37.720 --> 0:11:40.800 have had with Rod Smith back here. Yes, and no, 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.400 that they're better at running back, probably because he's could 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:46.120 be more dynamic. I bet you Keith O'Quinn doesn't think so. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.760 And special teams, so because he was a he was 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.880 a core player on the special teams unit, and so 0:11:51.280 --> 0:11:53.040 every time one of those guys leaves, you got to 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.160 replace him with someone. And that could be a linebacker, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.200 that could be a tight end or whatever. So it 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:00.600 doesn't mean it's not replaceable. But as for I don't 0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:02.640 think Paula is going to do what Smith does online 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.120 and special teams. Let's see if someone that's the trigging 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:08.679 part is like specifically here for this position, whether you 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:12.520 need more production from special teams or running back when 0:12:12.600 --> 0:12:16.040 s has to come out. Yeah, So I mean, I mean, 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:18.640 and you're right, all that sounds good until on a 0:12:18.720 --> 0:12:20.720 seventy four yard punt return goes and gets you to 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.480 lose the game and you're like, guy, they were off 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.280 here or whatever. But but I mean, I think you're 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.240 willing to take that chance because you can replace him 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:30.200 with other guys and you can figure out how to 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.559 how to replace that. You do need a little bit 0:12:32.559 --> 0:12:34.560 more juice on offense, and he gives you that. So 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:37.600 I will say offensively, yes, upgrade. Do you think Mike 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.560 Webber ends up being his best shot at being able 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.800 to even make this team is being able to play 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:45.520 special teams, because if not, Darius Jackson still sitting there, 0:12:45.520 --> 0:12:47.640 and I think he's somewhat of a capable back. We 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.920 haven't really seen him a lot, but from what we've seen, 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:53.000 he looks like he could be capable back. Special teams 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.480 will be the difference from Michael I think Webber, I mean, 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:58.880 from what it sounds like, he's he's learning this game. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:00.880 He's trying to figure this out. His head is spending 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:02.880 a little bit and this isn't This is not even 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.400 easy transition for anybody. And I think it's he's a 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.960 little bit more gifted as a running back. But it's 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:11.079 very similar I think to what happened last year with 0:13:11.120 --> 0:13:13.120 both Scarborough. I mean you look at both Scarborough and 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.160 you're like, he's making the team and then look like yeah, 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:19.760 and then you know he's productive at a at a 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.719 pretty decent college, and and I think that you know 0:13:24.760 --> 0:13:28.760 a right same with Webber, And uh, Webber's a little 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.040 bit more of a running back, but I still think 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:32.280 he's got that challenge of trying to figure everything out. 0:13:32.440 --> 0:13:34.320 It's not gonna be easy for him to make special teams, 0:13:34.400 --> 0:13:38.000 I do think. And yeah, they both Darius and Webber 0:13:38.120 --> 0:13:40.679 need to do special teams, and we've seen Darius do it. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:44.480 But at the risk of like lessening the drama. I 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.080 don't know about that because Tony Pollard is not you know, 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.160 he's not your bell cow guy. If if Zeke is 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.720 unavailable for whatever reason, and I know they think the 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:55.880 world of jamaz Ola Walle but I don't think they 0:13:55.960 --> 0:13:58.040 really want to go down that road either, So like 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.360 they need a third running back, and if something were 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:01.920 to happen to his Zeke, like I said last week, 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.319 maybe they'd sign one. But they're still gonna be a 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.520 third running back on this team. Absolutely. But my point 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.480 is Garis Jackson would be like, oh yeah, for sure. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.040 I mean, I wouldn't write DJ out at all. He 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.520 told me last week he's he hasn't felt this good 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:18.280 since before he got tore up his knee when he 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:20.400 was in Cleveland, which you know, I know guys say 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:23.600 that every spring, but he's he's a fourth year veteran, 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:25.760 like he's been through this, so I think it would 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.360 be a mistake to completely write him out of the picture. Yeah. Absolutely, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:30.920 all right, let's move on. Let's talk about the tight 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:34.000 end position. Cowboys. Let Jeff Swain walk. Obviously, they got 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:36.960 Jason Witten back. Are they better there than they were before? 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:41.720 In a chorus? Yes, are they? Oh? Okay, I got 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.560 a disint. Are they better than they were last year? Yeah? Okay, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.800 that's the question. Yes, But I'm like, I'm not just 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:50.680 sold that the tight end position is like this strength now, 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:54.040 Like I don't feel that way, and neither. Okay, we'll 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.440 talk about just making sure we're I'm answering the right question. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:14:59.360 We're the point right now, better than they were, a 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.720 lot better. Whatever they did this offseason, was that better 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.240 than what they had last year? Yes? Okay, all right, 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:07.600 all right, let's move on to the wide receiver position. 0:15:07.680 --> 0:15:10.960 Cole Beasley headed out to Buffalo Terrence Williams. I don't 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:12.400 even know if he's been signed by anybody. I don't 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.760 think he has. Cowboys. Then go and get Randall Cobb. 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:18.040 And you know, I threw in there just for kicks 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:19.960 a little bit with Cedric Wilson, a guy that didn't 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.880 play for them last year, and and so I'm kind 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:24.480 of excited to see what he can bring. But he's 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.200 a new piece for them in some respects. We'll see 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.200 if he can actually make the team and if he 0:15:29.240 --> 0:15:31.400 can actually provide something for them, because that depth charts 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:34.080 tough in the wide receiver room. But looking at where 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:35.400 they were last year to where they are this year, 0:15:35.440 --> 0:15:39.280 are they better? Yes? If that's all we're answering. Yes, yeah, 0:15:39.320 --> 0:15:41.840 I mean, and I think you actually miss and not. 0:15:42.000 --> 0:15:44.080 I mean, the two guys that are gonna make them 0:15:44.360 --> 0:15:47.280 better than they were last year are Michael Gallup and 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:51.040 Amari Cooper because Cooper. This is a whole offseason that 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:52.800 they didn't have. He was just on the fly. And 0:15:52.840 --> 0:15:55.080 if that's on the fly and it can be better 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.560 than you know, sky's the limit there. And then same 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:00.640 with Gallup. I think he has a chance to really 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.000 be a dynamic player in this offense. And just those 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.280 are the those are the big steps that I think. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:08.560 I don't know about the difference between Cobb and Beasley 0:16:08.680 --> 0:16:11.360 and then all those other guys you mentioned someone's going 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:13.960 to emerge, and it sounds like John V. Johnson's going 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.600 to Canton. So I mean, I'll you know, he's he's 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.360 seen those before, right, We're seeing those every year. Yeah, 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.320 I'll tell you what though, just out here he's he's 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.080 got he's got some some juice. That's great. You know 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:26.640 what I want to see with those kind of guys. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.400 I want to see after about two weeks of training camp, 0:16:29.520 --> 0:16:31.400 what are they doing? Because we see these guys every 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.680 year that will kind of catch your eye during OTA's 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:35.520 even when you get to training camp the first week, 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:37.920 Oh my god, they're doing great. How we're gonna manage 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:41.560 to keep them on the roster. He's on the week, right, 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:42.680 I get it. And then at the time you get 0:16:42.720 --> 0:16:45.120 the second week, it's like they just kind of he's 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.320 on this team right now, Lance Lenor, he's a training 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.000 camp champ two years right right, Yeah, has to tell 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.560 you who they're not beating his Byron Jones, you know, 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:54.360 I mean, that's that's a that's a good thing. He's 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:56.800 a Pro Bowl No, I'm just saying he's not out there. 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.800 I mean, he's a Pro Bowl cornerback. That that. I mean, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.520 all of those guys. You know, when you lose a 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:05.919 player like that and you know he's not taking the 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.240 reps and stuff like that. But I just think that overall, 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.160 I think those two top receivers and then cop are 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.399 going to make the whole group better. The thing what 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:18.440 also helps, going back to your question of being better 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.760 and other than last year, just knowing what you have 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.840 a wide receiver somewhat you have a better idea of 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.119 the group. You're not starting the season with the mindset of, oh, 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:30.879 let's just have all these wide receivers in here and 0:17:31.200 --> 0:17:33.800 try them out and try this and that. Now you 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:36.040 have I mean, they're still going to try different things 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:39.000 and put guys different places, but you have a clear 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:42.240 vision of what you have in the wide receiver group. Yeah, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.280 I love this top three, the top three wide receivers. 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.040 I think that's a good group. And if they can 0:17:46.080 --> 0:17:48.160 all stay healthy, I think the Cowboys can really get 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:51.280 some production out of the wide receiver right receiver position. 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:54.439 And the one guy that seems to be forgotten in 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:58.359 this is is Alan Hearns because Hearns as the fourth 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:00.960 guy and he's you know, saw him on the field 0:18:01.000 --> 0:18:02.800 the other day doing some pretty good stuff. Did not 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:05.560 expect him to be doing what he's doing after seeing that, 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.280 in like, I didn't even know if he'd be back again. 0:18:08.400 --> 0:18:10.800 So he has a chance to really help them. That 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.520 gives them some quality depth that can do a bunch 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:15.760 of different things. I've been saying for a while that 0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:18.000 it's like, well, your top three jobs are safe, and 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.800 then everything else is a free for all. I think 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.000 it's probably the top four. I think Hurns is on 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:25.760 this team because of his He's a veteran, he can 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:29.520 play both inside and out, but he is beloved. Can't 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:32.560 understand how much I think that means, and so especially 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:35.480 in this organization. And you know, and we're leaving out 0:18:35.520 --> 0:18:37.359 a guy that was picked eighth overall in the draft 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.760 a few years ago, and I think Austin, Yeah, another 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:41.840 wild card. Don't don't know what they're going to do 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.240 with him. That'll be an interesting one, just because you know, 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:46.600 obviously there's there's a lot of talent there, but you 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:49.000 just haven't seen it yet. I'll say this about watching 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:50.960 just a couple of practices that we get to see, 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.040 we get to see one another one today, it just 0:18:54.040 --> 0:18:57.480 seems like the guys are just wide open, like like 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:00.359 there's a guy always running free. And I don't know 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.639 if that says anything good about the defense. I'm just 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.240 saying that this offense, it just feels like there's somebody 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.960 wide open, like a running back here. And you know, 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:11.800 I understand there's no pass rush show. You can sit 0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:14.560 there and go to your seventh read, but it just 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:17.399 feels that way. You know, that may suggest and again 0:19:17.560 --> 0:19:19.320 I'd have to look a lot closer to know that, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:22.200 but it may suggest that maybe they're scheming guys open. 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:24.840 You know, something that I don't think this offense has 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.560 really done a lot of over the last several years, 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:29.439 but you see a lot of other teams doing it 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.920 quite well, being able to figure out ways to get 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.560 guys open. By scheming it versus man on me and 0:19:34.640 --> 0:19:36.919 you can beat your guy, you know, I mean, then again, 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.800 get d Law out there to rush, you know. Yeah, 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:43.359 let's see. Let's see how how much time you know 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:45.720 Dad has. But he's throwing the ball well, and it 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:47.560 seems like he's making good reads. All right, let's take 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.120 our first break. When we come back, I'm gonna ask 0:19:49.119 --> 0:19:51.480 the question of all the things we've talked about in 0:19:51.520 --> 0:19:54.840 all the positions on the offense, which position still give 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.440 give gives you reason to be concerned going into the 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.359 twenty nineteen season. We'll talk about that when we come 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.960 right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 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So but we're gonna get some stuff for 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:26.880 you guys, have some articles and some videos that will 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.080 be producing today out of all that stuff, so you 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:30.879 can see what's going on again this week. It's the 0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:33.879 final week of OTA mini camps start next week. I 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.240 think that's gonna be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Um, and then 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.320 everybody goes away, except when we won't go away. We 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:42.919 won't be on air, but the players and coaches they 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:44.560 go away. They get away for a little bit, and 0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:46.879 we will be heading a training camp in late July. 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:49.840 So then it's that it's that dead period that we 0:22:49.920 --> 0:22:52.920 all dread. I guess all the listeners probably probably dread 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:55.000 a little more than we do, but that little dead 0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:56.399 period and then we'll be back up and running an 0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.080 ox end of July. All right, So let's talk about 0:22:59.119 --> 0:23:02.680 We're talking about the offense, and I wanted to get 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:06.680 your opinions on the on the overall offense. So thinking 0:23:06.680 --> 0:23:08.959 about everything we talked about, all the players, whether if 0:23:09.000 --> 0:23:11.720 they've changed out not being a whole lot, um, is 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.280 there a position on the offense and if so, what 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.240 is it and why, um that you still have concern 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:22.760 about going into the twenty nineteen season center center. Yeah, 0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.280 because we saw last year that you know that Looney 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.960 can he can do a decent job or a good job, 0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:33.000 but but you know, they struggle against some of the 0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:37.600 overpowering defensive fronts and we'll see, And Frederick keeps saying, 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:39.440 I don't know until I get on the pads on 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.560 so we'll see. He's not going to commit to saying 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.400 I feel better or whatever. So who knows if they've 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:48.000 upgraded there. You just don't know if they have. Yeah. 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:50.560 One of the things about that syndrome, from what I understand, 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:52.879 is the strength is the part that goes. And so 0:23:52.960 --> 0:23:56.040 you're right. Until he puts on pads and has antoine 0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:57.920 woods in front of him and he's having to move 0:23:57.960 --> 0:24:01.040 antoine woods against his will, that's when he's gonna find 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:02.880 out if he's strong enough to do it. And so 0:24:03.400 --> 0:24:05.479 you know you are you are gambling. We'll not gambling 0:24:05.480 --> 0:24:07.119 because you still have Joe Looney there, but but it 0:24:07.240 --> 0:24:09.120 is still a guess until you get to that point 0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:11.119 where you're having to see if he can really do 0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:15.040 his job. Absolutely, And I mean, you know, Connor Williams 0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:18.159 looks great, but it's it'd be interesting to see how 0:24:18.200 --> 0:24:22.600 the left guard position shakes out. Um, Tyrant Smith, you 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:27.280 always wonder about his durability. Um, how's Lyle Collins gonna? 0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.240 You know, it seemed like he bounced back after the 0:24:29.280 --> 0:24:32.360 coaching change. You know at midpoint last season. How does 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:34.600 he kind of carry that momentum going forward? I mean, 0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.040 just based on bodies, there's all the reason in the 0:24:38.040 --> 0:24:40.000 world to feel like the offensive line should be better 0:24:40.040 --> 0:24:43.920 this year, but gotta gotta see it. Yeah, it's offensive 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.120 line overall, as you're um and a tight end. I mean, 0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:49.119 you know, Jason Witten is definitely going to the Hall 0:24:49.119 --> 0:24:51.240 of Fame, but he took a year off and I 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:53.359 think he would even admit that. You know, he wasn't 0:24:53.359 --> 0:24:55.640 as good in twenty seventeen as he was in even 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.960 two thousan you know twelve, that was when he set 0:24:57.960 --> 0:25:00.880 the record, right, So you know, he's thirty seven years 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:04.600 old and we still don't really know about Jarwin and 0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.800 Schultz behind him, so and feel better about it with 0:25:07.880 --> 0:25:10.639 him there. But I, like I said before, I don't 0:25:10.880 --> 0:25:13.479 you know, I don't think it's just this super strength 0:25:13.520 --> 0:25:15.600 on the offense. Would you like to have seen them 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.280 go out and do more at the tight end position 0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:20.800 this offseason? Whether that be in the draft, which questionable, 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.920 whether you get somebody that late as far as you 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:24.959 were picking, but even in free agency, do you think 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.440 they should have done more? No? I don't think so, 0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.640 because yeah, whoever you draft in the second round, third round, 0:25:31.680 --> 0:25:34.639 fourth round, they're gonna have question marks. And and this 0:25:34.840 --> 0:25:37.679 is the the same with what you've got with Jarwin and Schultz. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.840 I mean, like, you've got guys that I think would 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:43.080 be comparable to anybody you would draft at that stage, 0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:45.720 So why not let them develop and see? And then 0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:48.720 you've got Witten, So I don't know what other guy 0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.080 you could bring in here. I just think that these 0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:53.119 guys need to grow and this is the time to 0:25:53.200 --> 0:25:55.600 do it. And now if it's this more of the same, 0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.800 then yeah, next year, you know. But but if Schultz 0:25:58.840 --> 0:26:00.800 or Jarwin are going to do anything, let's let him 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.560 do it. It would have been an amazing year to 0:26:02.640 --> 0:26:05.840 draft a tight end even at fifty eight. You know, 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:07.720 if you really wanted to, you could have like trade 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:10.240 it up for a Nerve Smith or you know, Jay 0:26:10.280 --> 0:26:12.760 Sternberger would have been there for you. But as soon 0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:14.679 as Witten decided to come back, you kind of just 0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.800 put all that on hold. And that's fine with me. 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:21.520 I mean I kept saying, it's like, even, okay, you 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.720 draft Jay Sternberger, like will he have the play strength 0:26:24.800 --> 0:26:28.080 and the wherewithal to really get snaps? In this offense 0:26:28.119 --> 0:26:30.360 because Jason Witten is going to take some and then 0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:32.000 you still got these two young guys that you want 0:26:32.040 --> 0:26:34.400 to find out about. So where does a rookie fit 0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:38.480 into that? So if the alternative is Jay Sternberger being 0:26:38.520 --> 0:26:41.560 inactive or just wait until next year to address the problem, 0:26:41.640 --> 0:26:44.800 I'm fine with that. But that is a position where 0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.199 they probably need to spend some resources. I don't think 0:26:47.200 --> 0:26:48.960 it matters that they didn't do it this year, but 0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:53.560 that day is coming. Are we writing off freeco? I 0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:55.280 mean to make the thing well, I mean, here's the deal. 0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.200 He's been this is going to be his fourth season 0:26:57.200 --> 0:27:00.520 I think to play football. Yeah, but I understand that, 0:27:00.520 --> 0:27:02.160 but that at some point you have to be able 0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.720 to make a decision to say, Okay, it doesn't matter 0:27:04.760 --> 0:27:06.560 that he's not played football at this point, we have 0:27:06.600 --> 0:27:08.440 to make a decision is he going to be able 0:27:08.480 --> 0:27:10.359 to play football at a high level? And if he's not, 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:12.239 and if you think he's not, or do you think 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:14.439 it's gonna it's gonna require a lot more years. You 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.359 really don't have a lot more years, right, No, I 0:27:16.400 --> 0:27:18.800 think that was it for him. As far as this 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.480 is the make or break, I'm not saying he won't 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.080 make the team. I'm just saying I don't think he 0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.040 gets any more chances of like, let's just let's develop him. 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:31.080 This is it. I would never dream of writing him 0:27:31.080 --> 0:27:34.160 off as a chance to make the team because he's 0:27:34.200 --> 0:27:37.080 still here. Man, the depth chart doesn't really demand that. 0:27:37.119 --> 0:27:39.080 You have to know, right, and I feel I mean, 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:41.440 I feel like we've said make or break for him 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.159 every year since his rookie year probably, so I'm not 0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:47.560 writing him off to make the team. But if he's 0:27:47.600 --> 0:27:51.080 going to make meaningful contributions again, I want to see 0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:53.640 it before I just believe that it's going to happen. Yeah, 0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.120 and I want to see it in a real game 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:59.040 because I know he can box out you know, a 0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:02.600 practice squad. Yeah, he can do that in the preseason. 0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:05.479 That's not impressive anymore. So the question is it will 0:28:05.520 --> 0:28:07.359 even be able to make the active roster. Now, you 0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.760 got Jason there every week last week, I mean last 0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:12.240 year he was active for what fifteen out of sixteen games. 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:14.240 That was also because Jeff Swain was hurt for a 0:28:14.240 --> 0:28:16.639 good part of the year, So you know, I wonder, 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:18.840 I wonder now what that means with Jason being here 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:20.240 is he even if he's on this team, is he 0:28:20.240 --> 0:28:22.399 even going to get an opportunity to really show you anything? 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:24.120 A lot of weird A lot of weird stuff there. 0:28:24.160 --> 0:28:26.120 I mean, they're going to keep a fullback, so that's 0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:28.520 a spot. You know, do they keep three quarterbacks? Do 0:28:28.560 --> 0:28:31.119 they keep four tight ends? They've got an absurd amount 0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.359 of depth on the offensive line. How many guys do 0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.679 they feel like they want to keep there? I don't know. 0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:40.480 That's also the development of Schultz. It will be a 0:28:40.520 --> 0:28:42.280 part of that too, in jar Rom because last year, 0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.560 right at the end of training camp, he I mean, 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.520 Schultz wasn't better than Rico last year that training game. Now, 0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.320 I think as the year went on, you saw he 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:54.400 improved a lot more and Rico kind of stayed right there. Sonny, 0:28:54.560 --> 0:28:56.640 he passed it, which is why you're a fourth round pick. 0:28:56.800 --> 0:28:58.960 And so as long as he keeps doing that, I 0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:01.160 think it'll be hard for Rico to make it. But 0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.160 if they get to the end of camp and it's 0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:05.880 close again, I don't know what happened. I mean, I'm 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.640 not saying they're gonna cut Shoulta, just meaning I think 0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:09.880 they might keep a fourth tight end, giving him the 0:29:09.880 --> 0:29:13.760 I don't see, like, why would you keep four? They 0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.480 did last year. I get it last year, but I 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:19.920 don't think they've kept less than four. I just think 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.960 they wanted to keep him and they just don't want 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:26.840 him going to Yeah, but I mean, you gotta be 0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:29.640 smart about it. You've got other positions that you probably 0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:34.760 need a deeper, you know, depth there. But and then 0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:38.400 another one would be going back to your original question. 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.400 I was going to mention the quarterback position, which hopefully 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.880 something that you won't need during the year. As far 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:48.400 as the backup quarterbacks, what I'm seeing in practice is 0:29:48.440 --> 0:29:53.840 still doesn't excite me. You know, you see them completing 0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:56.680 some passes, Mason some, but at the same time, there's 0:29:56.800 --> 0:30:00.280 nothing that makes one of them stand out versus the other. 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.440 It's very similar in a way. You know, they each 0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:06.600 have their own qualities, but nothing that really makes them 0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:10.000 stand out. And that concerns me in that aspect, because 0:30:10.960 --> 0:30:14.640 God forbid anything happens to Dad. But we know how 0:30:14.640 --> 0:30:18.680 the NFL works and it's unpredictable. Any injuries can't happen 0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.400 any given moment, and I don't really feel comfortable with 0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:25.280 the backup position at this time. But let's talk about 0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.120 alternatives there. Let's assume for a second that there's some 0:30:28.640 --> 0:30:30.960 free agent out there that's a veteran that you think 0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:33.280 maybe we can go get him and bring him in 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:35.360 once you get through a training camp, because you don't 0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.280 feel very comfortable about those two. How comfortable do you 0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:39.760 feel with the idea that even though it's going to 0:30:39.800 --> 0:30:41.480 be a veteran, it will be a veteran that's coming 0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.040 into a system that they don't know having to now 0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.120 not get a lot of snaps, but be ready to 0:30:46.240 --> 0:30:49.120 jump in at a moment's notice to relieve if Dad 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:52.640 should go down. Versus having these two guys that, regardless 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:54.520 of what you think their skill level is right now, 0:30:54.840 --> 0:30:56.880 they do it at least know the offense. They've been 0:30:56.920 --> 0:30:59.240 here for a while, and you feel maybe a little 0:30:59.240 --> 0:31:01.840 more comfortable with the idea that they can step in 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:04.880 at a moment's notice and actually give you relief. That's 0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:08.000 one of those like it's a great idea in theory, 0:31:08.040 --> 0:31:10.640 but I mean, and I don't know this, we haven't 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.600 seen enough of them. But like I think back to 0:31:13.640 --> 0:31:16.200 twenty fifteen, You're like, well, he's he's been here, He's 0:31:16.200 --> 0:31:18.040 been here all through the offseason. He knows this, he 0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:19.920 knows that, and then like the game starts and you're like, 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:23.080 this guy doesn't have it. He just doesn't, which you know, 0:31:24.040 --> 0:31:25.880 only time is gonna tell. Like yeah, I mean like 0:31:25.960 --> 0:31:28.920 basically my read on it, and not to write off 0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.440 Mike White too early or Cooper Rush for that matter, 0:31:31.480 --> 0:31:35.320 but like they're comfortable in the knowledge that they're probably 0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.600 screwed if dec gets hurt, Like that's my that's my 0:31:37.680 --> 0:31:40.240 read on it. You just think they know, well that 0:31:40.400 --> 0:31:44.120 goes down. I mean, they're like, he's he's he's twenty, 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.640 he'll be twenty six when the season starts. He's never 0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.240 like I don't think he's ever missed a snap, you know. 0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.240 I know he got hurt in Washington, but he came back. 0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:54.880 You know, he's never missed time. He's built like a tank. 0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.560 He's young and healthy. I think they're just like, you know, 0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:01.440 if something really horrendous happens to then that's just that's 0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:03.920 just some really crappy luck. And we've got enough money 0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.440 to pay out everywhere else that we can't afford to 0:32:06.440 --> 0:32:09.360 have an eight million dollars a year backup, you know whatever, 0:32:09.400 --> 0:32:11.520 ten million dollars year backup sitting on our roster. And 0:32:11.520 --> 0:32:14.120 I'm not saying, you know, I'm not saying that's necessarily 0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:16.520 the right idea. That's just the strategy that they are 0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.840 pursuing right now, because I don't you can't convince me 0:32:19.880 --> 0:32:22.160 that they would feel comfortable starting either of those guys 0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:24.360 for more than a game or two if they had to. 0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:26.400 The one thing I will say, though, is we don't 0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:29.360 know when we're not there seeing practice, what those two 0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:32.400 guys look like. Because even at that though, when we 0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:35.600 go back to a few years ago when Dak, when 0:32:35.640 --> 0:32:37.479 they made the decision we're gonna go with Dak, and 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:40.480 I know most of us, and I'm talking about the media, 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:44.080 most of us are like, crazy, You're crazy. You're saying 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:45.880 we're just going to roll with Dak versus going out 0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.360 and getting a veteran that's actually done it. And then 0:32:48.800 --> 0:32:50.520 because and mainly that was because of what we saw 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.840 in practice. In practice, he wasn't a good player in practice, 0:32:53.200 --> 0:32:55.360 but what we saw when the lights came on all 0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:57.880 of a sudden, this guy turned into a really good quarterback. 0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:00.720 And so he turned into a good quarterback. But he also, 0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.000 you know, none of these guys that we see in practice, 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:06.880 preseason games or whatever. They ever really get to play 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.080 behind Zach Martin, Tyrn Smith, Travis Frederick. They don't. And 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.320 they don't really hand the ball off to Zeke. They're 0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:16.040 handing the ball off to Strew Ben Melina or something 0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:18.640 like that. I mean, And so I just feel like, 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:22.920 you know, got great players make you look better. And 0:33:23.240 --> 0:33:25.200 I'm not saying and Dad, you're right, he does turn 0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:27.200 it on. He does. He does play better when the 0:33:27.280 --> 0:33:29.320 lights are on, which is good. I don't know if 0:33:29.360 --> 0:33:31.560 Mike White, Cooper Rush do that as well, And I'm 0:33:31.600 --> 0:33:33.200 not saying they do. I'm just saying we got to 0:33:33.200 --> 0:33:36.040 be a bit careful because you just don't know what 0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.320 what would happen if they had an opportunity to get 0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:41.440 in the look better. They'll look look better, right with 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.280 those lines, But they're also being said there's also better 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.560 players on the other side that are manually breaking up 0:33:47.600 --> 0:33:51.239 those passes they throw. And speaking of Dak, you know 0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:54.320 how you mentioned, oh, he's not a great practice guy. 0:33:54.760 --> 0:33:58.120 There's something about him this year. I don't know, it's 0:33:58.120 --> 0:34:01.800 hard to tell, but it's hard to say that he 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.600 looks confident because he's always been a confident guy. But 0:34:04.760 --> 0:34:07.600 there's something that when I go out there and watch him, 0:34:07.960 --> 0:34:11.759 and yes, he misses some passes, but something about him 0:34:12.040 --> 0:34:15.719 makes me feel like he feels a lot more comfortable 0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:20.160 and just a lot more secure and more knowledge of 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.000 what he's doing. I don't know if you guys notice 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:25.919 anything different, but that's just kind of the air I'm 0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:30.439 sensing from him that it's different from previous years. There's 0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:33.320 some kind of growth, and it makes me feel like 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:35.799 he's going to have a really good season to the 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:38.840 point where he goes out there, he's gonna be more clean, 0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:41.400 he's gonna be able to do certain things where he's 0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:44.520 contributing more on the offense. And it's early for me 0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:48.399 to say, well, maybe John kidnap because he just got here. 0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:51.360 There's no way you could have made that change so quickly. 0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:55.200 But something about him makes me really excited. All those 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:58.680 things might be the cause, and that sounds good. We 0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.279 don't know that, but the effect is he's throwing the 0:35:01.320 --> 0:35:04.360 ball much better. That's just clear. You could see that, 0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:06.479 and so all those things probably are true than they're 0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:09.200 helping this at the end. The end result is he 0:35:09.239 --> 0:35:11.960 looks like he's more confident because he's throwing the ball 0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:14.839 down the field better that that's the one thing for me. 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:18.960 Seventeen to twenty five yards, those passes look better. I mean, 0:35:19.000 --> 0:35:21.320 we've seen the deep ball. He'll connect every now and again, 0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.000 and definitely you know, knows where to kind of you know, 0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:25.960 dump it off and make some plays with his legs. 0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:29.760 But just throwing the ball, you know, intermediate, that looks 0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:33.200 better to me. I agree, I completely agree. I always 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:36.600 try to guard against feeling too optimistic about something I 0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:40.200 see an OTAs, but he looked last week. He looked great, 0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:43.040 He looked crisp, He looks accurate, especially when you compare 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:45.440 him to every time we see him at practice for 0:35:45.480 --> 0:35:48.080 a previous year, it's just like, Wow, what is he doing? 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:50.719 And then he yeah, the game comes on, lights come on, 0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.480 and he does better. But when he comes to practice, 0:35:53.600 --> 0:35:59.000 I think we've seen a big change their improvement that 0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:01.480 it's noticeable. And honestly, this this should be if you 0:36:01.480 --> 0:36:03.960 look at the progression of quarterbacks around the NFL, this 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:06.120 should be the year when you should expect to see 0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:08.719 a jump in Dak Prescott. And what I mean by 0:36:08.719 --> 0:36:11.560 that is, if he's going to be your quarterback of 0:36:11.600 --> 0:36:13.959 the future. They're gonna be some games a Dak's gonna 0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.720 win with his arm Like that just happens with quarterbacks. 0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:18.840 You see it as as they get farther along. Sometimes 0:36:18.880 --> 0:36:21.120 happens in third year, sometimes in the fourth year. But 0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.279 you see that, you see that maturation into oh my god, 0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:27.080 now they're winning because of this guy, not necessarily because 0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.279 of everything else that's around him. And I think that 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:31.040 that's that's what he's gonna have to do in order 0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.120 to really kind of prove that out. I think I 0:36:34.280 --> 0:36:35.920 just laugh because you said this is the year you're 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:37.960 gonna see a big jump, like he's gonna see a 0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:40.959 big jump as well, and no doubt, paid, no doubt 0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.000 his big book will be a lot, yeah, a lot heavy, 0:36:43.040 --> 0:36:45.359 a big jumps. We're gonna take our final break when 0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.200 we come back. We're gonna play a game of CEO. No, 0:36:47.280 --> 0:36:48.759 we haven't done that in a while. Amber's got some 0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.200 questions for the crew. Will do that when we come 0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.400 right back. This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Your 0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:58.160 new apartment's big, such a great deal. It's okay, just okay. 0:36:58.280 --> 0:37:04.480 What's not doing right above the subway? Well, I bet 0:37:04.480 --> 0:37:09.280 you don't even notice it. 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Back to the Break. 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:55.840 It is the final segment of the Break Lapness WBC 0:38:55.960 --> 0:38:59.399 Mortgage Studios at the Star. Well. This will be our 0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:02.319 next to last show next week to our final show 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:05.040 before we take a little break here heading into training 0:39:05.080 --> 0:39:07.600 camp in late July. So what we're gonna do. Right now, 0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:09.759 it's gonna play a little game of CE or No. Now, 0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:12.600 these are all questions. Yeah, these are all questions that 0:39:12.640 --> 0:39:16.920 have fans sent into me, and unfortunately they kind of 0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:19.839 hit on the subjects and topics that we've already been 0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:21.840 talking about. So we're just gonna wrap it up, do 0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:26.239 a little summary. So start off with Rico Gathers. Does 0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:34.160 he make the team? CE or no? See see, okay, 0:39:34.160 --> 0:39:37.560 see I'm gonna go see Oh wow, that's as always 0:39:37.800 --> 0:39:40.520 these are. This is what I think will happen, not 0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.640 what I would do. David, do you want Rico Gathers 0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.920 to make the team seven? Well, that's like I just, 0:39:45.160 --> 0:39:47.399 you know, anything personal. I have nothing personal against Rico 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.040 Gathers to this point. I just I'm not sure the 0:39:50.080 --> 0:39:52.399 purpose that he serves. Yeah, question is if you were 0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.480 making the decision with would Rico make this team? Probably not, 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.640 and that would probably be no. Let's say if he 0:39:58.760 --> 0:40:01.960 if he makes the team, you know, there's gonna be 0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:04.600 a lot of praise. Just like Christopher Shark gets a 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:06.880 lot of praise, There's gonna be a lot more praise 0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.879 on Doug nust Meyer. I mean he you know, he's 0:40:09.920 --> 0:40:12.239 he's having to really do a lot of teaching with 0:40:12.320 --> 0:40:14.600 these younger players, and if he can get him to 0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:16.880 be a guy that can kind of understand, you know, 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:19.200 who to block and leverage and how to get him, 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:23.000 you know, pushed out. I mean, it'll be it'll be 0:40:23.000 --> 0:40:25.600 a big win for him if the user can can 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:27.840 get him kind of to that level. The most interesting 0:40:27.880 --> 0:40:30.799 part about all of this is that he looks the part. 0:40:30.880 --> 0:40:33.719 You look at him, he's huge, he looks like he 0:40:33.760 --> 0:40:37.680 would be strong. He has athleticism, right, and so you're 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:39.759 you keep That's the part that's hard to say he's 0:40:39.760 --> 0:40:42.399 gonna not be with the team is because you're just like, man, 0:40:42.440 --> 0:40:44.360 at some point, doesn't this just have to click with 0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.960 one of those things, whether it's blocking, whether it's catching, 0:40:47.640 --> 0:40:50.200 one of those things. Yeah, I know, and they're they're 0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:53.360 the NFL is literally Peppi's owner is always my example, 0:40:53.440 --> 0:40:55.319 Like you look at him and you're like, that's a 0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:59.840 defensive end for an NFL team. Scouting loves him. Scouting 0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:04.080 absolutely in love with Rico. Yeah gathers. So I don't know, 0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.000 you go, I don't know about the coaching, but that's 0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:09.279 why they they're looking at the attributes, right, They're looking 0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.520 at the attributes that this player has and they're like, 0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.799 if you could just tap into that and get him 0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.400 to do one of those things really well, which everything 0:41:17.520 --> 0:41:20.200 only did it take Graham and Gates, but they at 0:41:20.239 --> 0:41:22.200 least played football, I know, But I mean, how how 0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:24.319 long when they were pretty good early? Right? I mean 0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.680 Graham came to football pretty late too, and yeah, I 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:30.239 think I mean he blew up in like his second season. Yeah, 0:41:30.440 --> 0:41:32.799 I just this is it, this is the time. I mean, 0:41:33.000 --> 0:41:34.799 it's not gonna He's not gonna make the team, I 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.279 don't think, because he's like, well, we just want to 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:39.879 see if the light will come on. Either the light 0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.320 comes on and he makes the team, or if he doesn't, 0:41:42.320 --> 0:41:45.399 I think you move on. Maybe he's something I really 0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:47.080 didn't think about until we were just talking about this. 0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.279 He could be a beneficiary of Kellen Moore just as 0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.640 much because let's maybe maybe you just wake up and 0:41:53.760 --> 0:41:56.480 stop trying to make him a complete tight end. Jimmy 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.440 Graham's not a complete tight end. It never has been. 0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.759 He is a red zone threat. So if Kellen Moore 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:04.480 maybe uses him that way, stops trying to turn him 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:07.479 into Jason Witten and just recognize that he's a maybe 0:42:07.480 --> 0:42:10.200 a one dimensional, but very talented player. Yep, maybe this 0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.520 could be a bigger run getting the box out and 0:42:12.600 --> 0:42:14.840 catch the ball. I promise you if he was a 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:20.080 on forty eight yard field goals and more, if he 0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:24.080 was a one two jump guy, he'd block at least 0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:26.160 three kicks a year. I mean, tell me how he 0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:29.360 couldn't He can. He's huge, and he can jump. He 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:33.000 can rebound, lead the nation in rebounding one two jump. 0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:36.040 Time it up right, He'll block some kicks if those 0:42:36.040 --> 0:42:38.680 guys that can push in front, there's no way that 0:42:38.760 --> 0:42:41.440 he can't block a few kicks. That right, there is 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:43.480 a turnover if you can block a field goal that's 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.279 fifty yards. Yeah, but that's it. I mean, maybe it 0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.920 is Kellen roll for him. Kellen Moore is about to 0:42:48.960 --> 0:42:52.720 revitalize like nine careers. Scare ready? All right? You mentioned 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.600 Jason Witten with all the weapons that that has now 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.920 in having him back, does Witten surpassed the five hundred 0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:06.400 yard mark this season? C or no? Five hundred? Uh yeah? 0:43:06.760 --> 0:43:09.520 Say no, no? Yeah, to many other weapons? I think 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.520 so five hundred yards. He's gonna have like sixty five 0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:16.040 catches for five hundred yards. I don't believe that's my guess, 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:20.239 that's that's what he was doing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.560 I'm I wouldn't say I would say no, And I 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.000 would probably put him somewhere more like about forty catches 0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:27.719 thirty eight and more like about yeah, maybe about three 0:43:27.840 --> 0:43:30.360 hundred and seventy yards somewhere in there, because I just 0:43:30.360 --> 0:43:32.080 think there's so many weapons on the team. I think 0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.680 they're gonna be looking at gallop down the field quite 0:43:34.680 --> 0:43:36.640 a bit. I think that Mark Cooper's is gonna get 0:43:36.680 --> 0:43:39.480 his Randall Cobb. I think, you know, backside of the 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:42.359 backfield gonna catch. I mean, there's there's not it ain't 0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:45.000 a lot of if this, if this, I haven't checked 0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.760 on the fact, and like his stats for all his years, 0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:51.720 but this guy says that beside he did five hundred 0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:56.360 besides his rookie year every year. So Jason Witten is 0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.440 gonna eat half of the dump offs that Zeke got. 0:43:59.520 --> 0:44:02.600 You know Zeke at seventy seven balls last year. You think, yeah, 0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:05.520 I do, that's that's what he'll do. And like I said, 0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.680 like he'll hit five hundred, but it'll be on a 0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.080 lot of catches like that means you also think that 0:44:10.160 --> 0:44:12.799 he's going to be playing the number of snaps that 0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:14.880 he played before left been saying that since then. That's 0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:18.400 sign that's an upgrade to me, that getting some of 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.719 those catches with Zeke because it's good. Yes, every year, 0:44:21.840 --> 0:44:24.440 Zeke's gonna go sixty yards seventy yards with one of 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:28.000 those screens, but but it's usually a design play. It's 0:44:28.040 --> 0:44:31.040 not a dump off play, and a dump off to Witten, 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:32.840 I think it will still get you more yards. So 0:44:32.920 --> 0:44:35.520 I think that's a better that's a better safety valve 0:44:35.520 --> 0:44:37.480 to have. I think those dump off is gonna go 0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:40.120 to Randall Cobb and maybe Tony Pollard more than they'll 0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.400 go to Witten. He's gonna hit five hundred. We might 0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:44.880 see him get the ball in of but well, it 0:44:44.960 --> 0:44:47.799 can be tricky because Zeke we always talked about him 0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:50.480 getting those little yards and it all adds up at 0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:52.960 the end. I see Jason Witna being kind of the 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.560 same thing where it's not very many yards, it'll be, 0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.759 you know, close. If Zeke catches the ball thirty yard 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:03.120 line and goes forward and he gets to the thirty 0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.120 two thirty three after a hit, if Witton catches at 0:45:06.160 --> 0:45:08.600 the thirty. It's at the thirty. Yeah, there's just not 0:45:08.640 --> 0:45:11.600 a lot of dragon going on. Do we still have time? 0:45:11.920 --> 0:45:14.040 Oh no, we don't have to be the end, all right. 0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:15.920 So we're we're done, We're out of here. We will 0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:17.759 be back next week. We'll get into the defense. There's 0:45:17.760 --> 0:45:20.400 a lot of positions we gotta hit. There. Some different 0:45:20.440 --> 0:45:22.319 changes at the Cowboys have made till then for Nick, 0:45:22.320 --> 0:45:24.600 even Dave helm and Amber Garcia. I'm Derek, he goes from. 0:45:24.640 --> 0:45:26.919 This has been the break Live one Dallas Cowboys dot 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:31.960 Com Radio. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 0:45:32.000 --> 0:45:35.800 dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.