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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newts World. The film Sound of

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Speaker 1: Freedom has become the successful blockbuster hit of the summer.

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Speaker 1: Released in July fourth by Angel Studios, the film stars

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Speaker 1: Jim Cavizo playing the role of Tim Ballard, a former

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Speaker 1: government agent turned freedom fighter who embarks on a dangerous

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Speaker 1: mission to rescue dozens of children from human trafficking. And

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Speaker 1: I have to say it's a powerful story of heroism

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Speaker 1: and is a testament to the freedom of those who

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Speaker 1: stand up against evil. And Sound of Freedom is resonating

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Speaker 1: with audiences everywhere. Its total domestic box office as we

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Speaker 1: tape this as over one hundred and twenty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars in counting. Here to talk about the Sound of Freedom,

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Speaker 1: I'm really pleased to welcome someone who Callista and I

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Speaker 1: got to know in Rome when she was the ambassador

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Speaker 1: the Vatican, Eduardo Varastoghi. He is executive producer and also

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Speaker 1: plays Pablo in the film. Edward, welcome and thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining me on mutual Mirmano.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you so much. It's an honor, is

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Speaker 2: a pleasure to be here with you. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: the interview. And I'm just so excited to be living

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Speaker 2: right now. The Mexican and the American dream together at

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Speaker 2: the same time.

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Speaker 1: And I have to say, just for the record, that

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Speaker 1: you and I share a mutual admiration society for Vince Haley,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to make sure he knows we talked

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Speaker 1: about you.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 2: He's our brother. I met him several years ago since Bela.

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Speaker 2: When I met Bella back in the days in two thousand.

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Speaker 2: That was my first movie that I produced where I

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Speaker 2: was the reactor as well, a pro life film, powerful

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Speaker 2: pro life film, and that's when I met him. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about two thousand and seven, two thousand and six,

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, but I got to know him

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Speaker 2: at a deeper level a few years ago. What an

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Speaker 2: incredible human being. He is a mentor to me. He's

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Speaker 2: a mantor, he's an advisor. He admires you as I

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Speaker 2: admire you. You're a mentor to us as well. But

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Speaker 2: we're family. And Vince, if you're listening to this, brother,

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Speaker 2: you're doing such an incredible work for this country and

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Speaker 2: for the world.

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Speaker 3: God bless you man.

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Speaker 1: That's great. Well, and I have to say, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that Vince was the driving force behind a movie close

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Speaker 1: than I did, called nine Days that change the world,

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Speaker 1: which is about Pope John Paul the Second going back

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Speaker 1: to Poland in nineteen seventy nine and having such a

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Speaker 1: huge impact that he changed the country and really shattered

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Speaker 1: the power of the Soviet Empire. And in many ways,

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Speaker 1: I think what you've just done with the Sound of

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Speaker 1: Freedom is a remarkable impact that is going to dramatically

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Speaker 1: shift this country. And I'm curious because apparently this is

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Speaker 1: all based on a true story. I mean, this is

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Speaker 1: not fiction, but this was a real event. Can you

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Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Tim Ballard, the true story

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Speaker 1: that it's based on.

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Speaker 2: Well, when we finished with Bella, as I mentioned before,

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Speaker 2: my first movie that I produce and Mede with Alejandro

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Speaker 2: Monteverde is another Mexican filmmaker. He's a genius Picasso Michelangelo,

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Speaker 2: great filmmaker, great director, great writer. And when we finished

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Speaker 2: Little Boy. And this is twenty fifteen. When I'm showing

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Speaker 2: a Little Boy to a group of friends. Next thing,

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Speaker 2: you know, one of the guys who you know who

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Speaker 3: He introduced me to Tim.

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Speaker 2: Ballard and Alejandro and I met Tim Ballard eight years

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Speaker 2: what they do to save children. I mean, these people

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Speaker 2: are ex Navy CEOs XCI agents, and these people travel

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Speaker 3: Kid not for sexual expectation.

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Speaker 2: When they explain to us in details what these children

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Speaker 2: These kids are being raped fifteen times a day for

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Speaker 2: other way around. You cannot remaind silence anymore, because silence

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Speaker 2: Because they're part of the problem. So I didn't want

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Speaker 2: eight years ago, he said, it's very sad what I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you guys, but it's more sad now that you

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Speaker 3: If you do nothing, what are you going to do?

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Speaker 2: That's when I realized that, well, we have a weapon

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Speaker 2: of mass instruction and inspiration. Film movies. Movies can move people.

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Speaker 2: Art has the power to change people's lives forever, for

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Speaker 3: It depends how you use it.

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Speaker 2: So I told him, well, you know what, we want

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Speaker 2: to make a movie about it, because how come if

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Speaker 2: this is a global problem, especially US and Mexico. US

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Speaker 2: is the number one consumer of child sex in the world,

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Speaker 2: Mexico the number one provider. How come if this is

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Speaker 2: the most powerful country in the world. You guys have

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Speaker 2: the technology, the intelligence, the army, the police, everything. What

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Speaker 2: do we finish this problem? How Come we don't finish

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Speaker 2: with this problem? And Tim Batter said, because it's not

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Speaker 2: a priority. It's not a priority. Well, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: for one child, and of course you save one child,

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Speaker 2: we're the solutions for three, four or five thousands, but

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Speaker 2: This is too big, This is like, okay, so how

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Speaker 2: can we solve this? Then? And then that's when he

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Speaker 2: told me we need a movement. We need a movement,

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Speaker 2: and we said enough is enough. And then we all

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Speaker 2: working together. We put pressure in government, we put pressure everywhere.

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Speaker 2: There's no more excuses for people to say, oh well

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Speaker 2: to be very honest with you. We have a lot

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Speaker 2: We are fighting an industry that produces more than one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty billion dollars a year. So just so

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Speaker 2: remember when I close my eyes, and I said, well,

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Speaker 2: what if this is my son?

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Speaker 3: What if this is my daughter? What would I do?

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Speaker 2: I will do everything everything, and I will hope that

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Speaker 2: the entire world will do something with me. I hope

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Speaker 2: that the entire world would stop everything they're doing so

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Speaker 3: Right, So that's my motivation.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to wait until this tragedy comes to

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Speaker 2: I want to wake up now with this information that

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Speaker 2: you're given to us. So yes, I'm willing to give

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Speaker 2: children are not for sale, as you said, Tim matter,

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Speaker 2: So I welcome your enemies, my friend. Let's start this

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Speaker 2: adventure together. And that's how the whole thing started. Eight

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Speaker 2: which is what the movie lasts. And I can't believe

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Speaker 1: When you started, when you got into this, were you

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Speaker 1: surprised at the scale of child exploitation that's underway and

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Speaker 2: No way, I didn't know anything. About I mean, I

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Speaker 2: heard the phrase human trafficking. You know, a lot of

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Speaker 2: But I didn't know the magnitude. I didn't know how

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Speaker 2: didn't know that this is happening in averor sector, the

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Speaker 3: This is the official numbers. I think it's a lot

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Speaker 2: But one child, one child is enough for the entire

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Speaker 2: These children's this child. So little by little, I started

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Speaker 2: knowing in details what's going on in this industry, child

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Speaker 2: traffic and sexualitation, child pornography. For example, sixty percent of

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Speaker 2: child pornography that is consumed in the world. It's producing

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Speaker 2: Mexico and my country, a Catholic country. Our Lady wall

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Speaker 2: to do this, it was really difficult, a lot of

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Speaker 2: raise the funds. The first thing they told me, you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you know this is a very dangerous topic.

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Speaker 2: You know, I have a family, we have children. Precisely

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Speaker 2: because you have children, you have to do this. Don't

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Speaker 2: it never happened to you and never happened to any

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Speaker 2: other parents, Wake up, wake up well well well so

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Speaker 2: it was really really difficult until finally we found the

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Speaker 2: We're with you. This is a team work. And then

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Speaker 2: we finished the script. It was almost three years of

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Speaker 2: because it's too graphic or something. And then you have

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Speaker 2: So it was a very difficult script. What alejandros I said,

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Speaker 2: what a genius. Alongside with a Rod Barr, which is

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Speaker 2: the other writer, they created a masterpiece, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: a script. Then after that, the second challenge was to

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Speaker 2: didn't want to be part of this movie. And literally

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Speaker 2: I visited every agency, every agency meetings and meetings and

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Speaker 2: meetings for a year. They were passing, this is not

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Speaker 3: Because it's very difficult.

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Speaker 2: When you spend so much time in a project and

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Speaker 2: project already Wadalupe, and I was free and I was

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Speaker 2: So even if this movie save one child, is all

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Speaker 3: When he called me to say yes, he said, I

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Speaker 2: At my wife, she's not feeling comfortable of me going

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Speaker 2: of death, child trafficking, cancer. Of course, we have good

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Speaker 2: But anyway, so she said, no, I don't want my

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Speaker 2: The good news is Jincabizhu said yes, what is the

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Speaker 2: while we were filming the movie, more than two hundred

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Speaker 2: Thank god for Jin Tavisu's wife, who said no in

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Speaker 1: talked about not saying the like, I mean there was

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Speaker 1: a period when very powerful forces basically tried to keep

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Speaker 1: your movie from ever reaching the American people. I mean

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Speaker 1: that must have been very frustrating.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that was the biggest challenge ever because I mean,

441
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Speaker 2: what a test, what a beautiful training. I mean, now

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Speaker 2: I can see it, but at that time it was painful.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm grateful that it happened the way happened, right,

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Speaker 2: But at that moment you don't see what's going to

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Speaker 2: happen later. You only see the pain and the blood

446
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Speaker 2: and the frustration and so many tiers of sadness that

447
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Speaker 2: these experts are not responding to the material. Right when

448
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Speaker 2: we started filming the movie, I made a beautiful deal

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Speaker 2: with Fox Latin America with Catablus Martinez. It was the

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Speaker 2: head of Fox Latin America. Great guy, a hatred, brave heart,

451
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Speaker 2: brave soul. He loved the project, Dodo, Let's make a

452
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Speaker 2: beautiful deal.

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a movie.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be a sequel, it's going to be

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Speaker 2: a TV series, he's going to be a documentary.

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Speaker 3: It was a two six two.

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Speaker 2: Degree powerful contract that I was like, Wow, this is

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Speaker 2: too good to be true. Maybe all these sacrifice all

459
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Speaker 2: these years now is paining right. And it was just

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Speaker 2: literally it was too good to be true. When I

461
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Speaker 2: signed the deal, I needed more funds for the movie

462
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Speaker 2: because some of our investors they pulled out at the

463
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Speaker 2: last minute, and Karous Martinez said, don't worry how much

464
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Speaker 2: we're talking about and I mentioned the number and he

465
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Speaker 2: was not scared.

466
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Speaker 3: He said, let's just keep doing this. What was too important.

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Speaker 2: It's about saving lives, and he gave us what we needed.

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Speaker 2: What happened after when we finished the movie Disney by

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Speaker 2: Fox Disney, when Disney bought Fox, all my friends, all

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Speaker 2: the angels that I have that I had instead of Fox,

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Speaker 2: they left. So now I am in Disney with no protection,

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Speaker 2: with no friends, with no angels inside, and I'm thinking,

473
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Speaker 2: what's going to happen now? And they saw the movie

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Speaker 2: several times and they told me this movie is not

475
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Speaker 2: for us. A Sound of Freedom is not for us.

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Speaker 2: It's not for Disney. Okay, So well then give it

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Speaker 2: back to me. And said, well, yes, but we have

478
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Speaker 2: a contract here, so let's negligiate it because you have

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Speaker 2: a debt that you have to pay. I know, but

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Speaker 2: you promise, well, not you, but Fox. But now you

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Speaker 2: own Fox and you own my contract. And you said

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Speaker 2: that you were going to do a documentary. Are you

483
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Speaker 2: in do a documentary?

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Speaker 3: Now? We're not interested in the documentary, okay.

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Speaker 2: But then I signed the contract based on all these

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Speaker 2: promises and you said that we're going to do a

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Speaker 2: TV series. Are you do a TV series? No, we're

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Speaker 2: not interested. Well, then let's negligiate. This is when COVID hit.

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Speaker 2: I'm in Mexico and negotiating with this company, the biggest

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Speaker 2: company in the world, you know.

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Speaker 3: And it took me a year and.

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Speaker 2: A half, back and forth until finally I resked the

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Speaker 2: rights of the film. And then I started snocking doors

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Speaker 2: again Netflix, sending emails and knocking doors in Amazon, Netflix,

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Speaker 2: other decision companies, and all these people saying this is

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Speaker 2: not for us, this is not a good business. I mean,

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Speaker 2: all these no, no, no in my face, all these

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Speaker 2: doors closed in my face.

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Speaker 3: And what am I going? What am I going to do?

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Speaker 3: I know the kids are suffering right now.

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Speaker 2: I live in Mexico now and I know that this

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Speaker 2: is happening, and I cannot wait until this film comes

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Speaker 2: out for me to do something. So we started doing

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Speaker 2: this tour in Mexico, this campaign against child trafficking. What

505
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Speaker 2: I started calling every governor, I think if they were

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Speaker 2: left right up and down, this is about children, not

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Speaker 2: about politics, you know. So yes, how can I help you? Well, governor?

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Speaker 2: You know, can you host the screen of this film.

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Speaker 2: We don't know when it's coming out, but the film

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Speaker 2: is finished. Can we host the screen and you're the

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Speaker 2: host that you invite all the most important leaders of

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Speaker 2: your state and then we show the movie. And then

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Speaker 2: at the end we sign this agreement where we commit

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Speaker 2: to child trafficking in that state, and we're going to

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Speaker 2: do this with every state in Mexico. We have tell

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Speaker 2: you two states, and everyone said yes. So I started

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Speaker 2: this tour with one hand, but with the other hand,

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Speaker 2: and it was beautiful because it was showing the movie

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Speaker 2: to like thousand leaders of that state. We were signing

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Speaker 2: the agreement and then press conference and everybody was involved.

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Speaker 2: People were touched. That's when I got my confidence back

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Speaker 2: in the movie because I saw the people's reaction at

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Speaker 2: the end standing ovation. Some people were just crying. Other

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Speaker 2: people were quite in silence reflecting of what they saw.

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Speaker 2: And I said, home, on a second, the experts are

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Speaker 2: telling me that this is not good, that nobody will

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Speaker 2: go and see a movie like this, and this is

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Speaker 2: not a good business for them. In the other hand,

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing like thousands of thousands of thousands of people

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Speaker 2: from all over the country, like love in the movie.

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Speaker 2: I said, Okay, who am I going to listen the

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Speaker 2: people or these experts in Hollywood that maybe some of

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Speaker 2: them are part of the crime right, So I'm going

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Speaker 2: to listen to the people. I'm gonna listen to the people.

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Speaker 2: With the other hand, I started knocking doors again again

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Speaker 2: and again and again. And what I was doing this

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Speaker 2: campaign against child traffic in my country. One hand was

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Speaker 2: raising awareness, putting pressure in government. With your hand knocking

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Speaker 2: doors and praying at the center. I was praying the

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Speaker 2: Rosary with hundreds of thousands of people on my Facebook,

541
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Speaker 2: on my social media, and I mean we did more

542
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Speaker 2: than one hundred million groceries in three years. And one

543
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Speaker 2: of the petitions was the Angel trafficking for the children

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Speaker 2: for this movie Sount of Freedom and the one day,

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Speaker 2: the one day got willing would touch millions of hearts.

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Speaker 3: Right next thing, you know, I got a phone call

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Speaker 3: from Angel.

548
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Speaker 2: Studios and I was who is injur Studios? Well is

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Speaker 2: a small distribution company, perhaps maybe the smaldest discription company

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Speaker 2: in America, the Indiutah Improvo Little Town is Oh my gosh, God, Well,

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Speaker 2: what are you trying.

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Speaker 3: To do here? I mean, this is a humiliation for

553
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Speaker 3: this movie that we did. That we consecrate it for you.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to give this movie to Angel Studios

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Speaker 2: in Provo in Utah.

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Speaker 3: I have never distributed a movie.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, so and then they tell me, Eduardo, we

558
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Speaker 2: are your only option and we believe so much in

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Speaker 2: this movie. Please give us an opportunity. And I saw

560
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Speaker 2: their passion, I saw their eyes. I said, okay, it's mine, honor.

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Speaker 2: Let's say hence you know what. You guys are crazy.

562
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Speaker 2: I'm crazy, but it's good, good craziness. Right, So let's

563
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Speaker 2: see how far we can go with this. And when

564
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Speaker 2: do you want to come out at Glado? I said,

565
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Speaker 2: well maybe I was thinking this is four months ago only, right,

566
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Speaker 2: So we signed the contract in five days and I

567
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Speaker 2: told them, why don't we do this on September fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: Independence Day in Mexico so we can celebrate freedom with

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Speaker 2: sounds of freedom, said Luardo. Is a great idea, but

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Speaker 2: not Independence Day in Mexico, Independence Day in the United States.

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Speaker 2: So what this is July fourth? This is like tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: We're not ready. I mean, have you seen the movies

573
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Speaker 2: that are coming out? I mean, this is Disney, the

574
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Speaker 2: biggest company in the world. You guys are the smallest one.

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Speaker 2: And maybe they don't like me anymore because I look

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Speaker 2: the movie out of them.

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Speaker 3: They're going to humiliate us.

578
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Speaker 2: They have Indiana Jones more than two hundred million dollar budget,

579
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Speaker 2: they have hundreds of millions of dollars of publicity. These

580
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Speaker 2: guys are the mafia of the entertainment. They control the theaters.

581
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Speaker 2: And then you have Mission Impossible later, and then you

582
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Speaker 2: have the other one, and then the other one. There's

583
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Speaker 2: no way we will survive more than two days. Have shave.

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Speaker 2: You're from Mexico, you're here. You give eight years of

585
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Speaker 2: your life. Eduardo gave. I'm sorry, Alejandro gave ages of

586
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Speaker 2: his life. Tim bllerd Jinca Bizol. I mean, everybody put

587
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Speaker 2: blood in this project. Let's shake the counties of America

588
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: and telling them, hey, yes, with one hand, celebrate freedom

589
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Speaker 2: July fourth. With the other hand, let's do something to

590
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Speaker 2: bring freedom back to the children that are not free. Together,

591
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Speaker 2: we can do this. Let's do it. I said, you

592
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Speaker 2: convinced me. I mean, we never imagine that a miracle

593
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Speaker 2: was waiting for us. July Wold, Sounds of Freedom became

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Speaker 2: the number one movie in America. Or Glory to God, my.

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Speaker 1: Brother, how did you get into that many theaters just

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Speaker 1: at a launch point?

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Speaker 2: You know, in the beginning, I thought was gonna be

598
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Speaker 2: five ten theaters platter from release, kind of thing independent,

599
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 2: you know, we're in depending where they This is like

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Speaker 2: David and Goliath, right. We knew that we were like

601
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: this little little film, but with the big heart, big soul.

602
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Speaker 2: So the CEO Angel Studios, Neil Harmon and the Harmon brothers.

603
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: I mean, because these three guys are like the three Fantastics.

604
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're just amazing heroes and they they the

605
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Speaker 2: world that they have done is just unbelievable. These guys

606
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Speaker 2: are amazing. They told me a lot. We're gonna call

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Speaker 2: it exigators. They're not very happy with July fourth, but

608
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Speaker 2: this is a calling. I mean, we really believe that

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Speaker 2: guy is calling us to do the release on July fourth.

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Speaker 2: So I think that when they see the film, they

611
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Speaker 2: may change their mind and instead of giving us I

612
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Speaker 2: don't know a few theaters, maybe maybe we can get

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Speaker 2: more than a few theaters. Right, So they did that.

614
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Speaker 2: They showed the movie to them. They were really move

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Speaker 2: and touch. This is the exhibitors, right, and some of

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Speaker 2: the managers of so many theaters around the country, and

617
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Speaker 2: they they started with I don't know exactly the numbers,

618
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Speaker 2: but we end up from few theaters to like more

619
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Speaker 2: than two thousand theaters. The small ones, I mean, we

620
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Speaker 2: didn't have like the big ones. We didn't have a

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Speaker 2: budget to put like posters and billboards all over America.

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Speaker 2: Of course not we put maybe I don't know five

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Speaker 2: billboards in the our country and it's something very small,

624
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Speaker 2: like Nobody. It was impossible for people to see that

625
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: this movie was, you know, in theaters, right. So that's

626
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Speaker 2: why I was very I'm a dreamer, but at the

627
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Speaker 2: same time, I'm realistic, so I thought, you know what

628
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Speaker 2: we'll see if we maybe worldwide, we can do break even,

629
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Speaker 2: so we can start a movement after the theatrical release made.

630
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Speaker 2: But I was dreaming with the movement like you know,

631
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Speaker 2: organic movement, like one hundred thousand people here, one hundred

632
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Speaker 2: thousand people in you know, in another country.

633
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Speaker 3: And I was pleased with that.

634
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Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, we're going to start this movement,

635
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Speaker 2: and even if it's just one week in theaters, that's

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Speaker 2: that's amazing. I mean, everything was positive at that time

637
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Speaker 2: for me because we finished the film on budget, eight

638
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: years of work.

639
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Speaker 3: Now we have distribution.

640
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Speaker 2: What is coming out in two thousand theaters, more than

641
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Speaker 2: thousand theaters in July fourth one. I mean, come on,

642
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: this is already the American dream, right. But the miracle happened.

643
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: I mean, the people show up, people show up, and

644
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 2: we beat Indiana Jones, the biggest company in the world.

645
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: We represented, by the grace of God, Goliath, David and Goliath.

646
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Speaker 2: We were the David. But the people, all the people,

647
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Speaker 2: when they show up, we all became the David.

648
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Speaker 3: And you know the story who you know who who wins? Right?

649
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: And then I thought, okay, this is a miracle all

650
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 2: doory to God. Think that for all the prayers of

651
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 2: so many people, you know, the sacrifice of everybody beautiful.

652
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: But it's going to be just one week because Mission

653
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: Impossible is coming next wrider right, and then boom we're

654
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: there again.

655
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: And then we're there again.

656
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: We had one goal, two million people for two million

657
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: children who would be traffic this year. That goal was

658
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 2: so huge, so big, it was almost impossible. I remember

659
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: when I told Neil to see of Engine Studios, I say, well,

660
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: two million people. I mean, you should keep that for

661
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 2: you and for us only a secret. Why you put

662
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: it out there? If it we don't get there, we're

663
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a failures. Have faith with Glada, I know,

664
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 2: I know, I know. It's not like I don't have faith.

665
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: It's just I want to be smart in how we

666
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: do things and that. But okay, I forgot your gradations

667
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 2: like me, Let's do this right.

668
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: Ten million people.

669
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: And it's growing word of mouth.

670
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 3: It's all word of mouth.

671
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: It's people. You know what is happening. This is what

672
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 2: is happening, and this is the miracle. So people are

673
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: going to see the movie. When the film is finished,

674
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 2: there's some move that they are they are motivated to

675
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 2: pull their phone out and they video tap themselves and

676
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: their hearts speaks to the camera, right, And then they

677
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 2: share that video with tears emotions and because they realize

678
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: that this is not a motion picture, it's an emotion picture, right,

679
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: So they share the message the review to everyone. So

680
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 2: imagine one shared that with one hundred, and then another

681
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 2: one one thousands, and other one other, one other, one

682
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 2: other one.

683
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: And then I realized all in a second a lot.

684
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes you have billboards, Yes you have posters all over

685
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: the world, all over the nation.

686
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

687
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: It is the people. The people are becoming our posters

688
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: and our billboards, living billboards, right, And that's why this

689
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 2: movement no one can stop.

690
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: It is too late.

691
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 2: They try to stop it, they try to block this message.

692
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 2: They start like the liberal media, you know, some of them,

693
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: not all of them, but some of them. They started

694
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: like attacking the message of the film. Don't go and

695
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: see this movie. This is a conspiracy. They're promoting lies,

696
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: They're promoting this and I'm like, wow, this is ridiculous.

697
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: This guy's They should apologize to this children who their

698
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: lives at the risk. They should apologize to the millions

699
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 2: of children are suffering. They should apologize to the people

700
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: who rescue everything to rescue these children. They should apologize

701
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: to these people who rescue everything to tell their stories.

702
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 2: But you know how God works, even those attacks, even

703
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: the bad things that happen to the movie and are

704
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: happening to the movie. The people that are and I

705
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: think this is the pedophile industry. I mean, who are

706
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 2: the only people who doesn't want you to see this film?

707
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: The people who are involved in the crime. I mean,

708
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: I don't have an other explanation because I always share

709
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: this vision, even though I'm conservative, even though I'm at

710
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 2: about practicing Catholic by the grace of God, and I

711
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: have my views and for a life and everything, but

712
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 2: I always say this. Imagine this little house full of children,

713
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: and the house is on fire, and then you have

714
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: this fire truck coming from one direction, and then you

715
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: have another fire truck coming from another direction, from another direction.

716
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: And then when they get right there in front of

717
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 2: the house, one driver tells you, the driver, this is

718
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 2: my territory. What are you doing here? And you're an answer, no, no,

719
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: this is my territory. They change the zip code. No no, no,

720
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 2: you want the commission.

721
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: You're a thief.

722
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: Now you're the thief.

723
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: Noa.

724
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: They start arguing. Right when they finish arguing, the kids

725
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 2: are dead. The children are dead. What they should have

726
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,760
Speaker 2: done when they get there is pull the water host out,

727
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: their water hosts out, extinguish the fire together, save the children.

728
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: And they continue the debate. But they already did the

729
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:31,919
Speaker 3: most important thing right.

730
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 2: Well, in real life, we're talking about millions of children

731
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 2: and their own fire. And my invitation to everyone, I

732
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: don't care if you're left right up and down center,

733
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: whatever you are, whatever your ideology. I know we have

734
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: so many differences in many other things. I know we're fighting,

735
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: you know, in other issues, but here, please, please, please,

736
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: in this issue, I would invite everyone to put their

737
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: water host out. Let's extinguish the fire together, Let's save

738
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: the children, and then we continue with the debate.

739
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 1: You know, essentially, you actually went to Badminster and President

740
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: Trump screened the film. What was that like?

741
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 3: Unbelievable? Unbelievable?

742
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: And I told him the same thing I'm telling you,

743
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: I said, mister President, when the good people of Mexico,

744
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: I mean, let me just tell you the story two

745
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:40,399
Speaker 2: Mexican filmmakers, Alejandro Monteverde and myself and Lord Astiki, two

746
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 2: Mexican filmmakers who we want to save lives. When we

747
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 2: meet with two American heroes who wants to save lives,

748
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: Team Mala and Jinka Ditel. We work together, Jay, Hence,

749
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 2: what is the result. What is the fruit of that

750
00:36:55,640 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: sound of freedom? What happened with the bad guys of

751
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: Mexico and the bad guys of America met Jay hens

752
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 2: and work together. Child trafficking happens, fentannel, drugs, illegal guns, cancer.

753
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: We represent the culture of life. Let's make America and

754
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: Mexico free again. Let's make America and Mexico great again.

755
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: Let's make America and Mexico successful again. And let's heal

756
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 2: and save our countries together. We're not just neighbors, We're

757
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: brothers and sisters. And he was moved, he was touched.

758
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 2: He saw the movie. We spent like at first, like

759
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: almost two hours just talking, you know, in the early dinner,

760
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: talking about everything, you know, how we can fix all

761
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: these things that they need to be fixed, right, And

762
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: then he introduced the movie.

763
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: And then he saw the movie.

764
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: I was just next. It was him, timbat, Jinka Vizel,

765
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 2: myself and two hundred guests, friends and family of him.

766
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: When the film was finished, he stand up and he

767
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 3: says his heart spoke, and he was move and he

768
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: was touched.

769
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: And then he did a podcast right after that and

770
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: this is the least things, I mean, this is the

771
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: less I can do for this.

772
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: I mean, we need to entel trafficking.

773
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 2: And then two days later he put together the video

774
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 2: like literally saying, when I become president, I'm gonna ask Congress,

775
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 2: you know the dead penalty for traffickers and these people

776
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: are destroying some like thousands of families. They're still in

777
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 2: the innocence and the purity of millions of children and

778
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 2: parents are being destroyed. Can you imagine just walking into

779
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 2: your house, opening the door of one of your children,

780
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: and then you see an empty bed. And it's very likely,

781
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: in ninety nine percent chances that some of you that

782
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: dat are of yours never come back again. That's I mean,

783
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: that's not right. And we need to do something. And

784
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: I know with his leadership, he will do whatever is

785
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: in his hands because he knows that he will have

786
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 2: the army, and he will have the intelligence, and he

787
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 2: will have the police, and he will have the budget,

788
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: and he will have everything to do something. And he

789
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 2: did a lot when he was president. And I think

790
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 2: now that this movement is growing where you know that

791
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: he has the people, and I think together we can

792
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: end this. And I'm just so grateful that he hosts

793
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 2: this screening. God bless him. You know, he's a busy man,

794
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: you know, again sending invitations to all the leaders of

795
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: the world and all the politicians both parties, you know,

796
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 2: they're not responding, very few are responding. And the first

797
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: responder was him, President Trump. He was the first one

798
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 2: to say, hey, let's do this in my place. And

799
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: I'm just so grateful that he holds the movie in

800
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: his place and he's willing to act on it.

801
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: Klust and I are joining Speaker Kevin McCarthy on Capitol

802
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: Hill this week. He's going to show the movie for

803
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 1: members of Congress, and I think it's going to have

804
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 1: an impact on Congress's understanding of the human cost of

805
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: some of the things that we've tolerated. Frankly, I'm going

806
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: to appeal to President Biden to show the movie at

807
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 1: the White House. I think that this is not a

808
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: part that's an issue. Everybody who cares about children should

809
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: care about the Sound of Freedom.

810
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 2: And if they don't show up, they're telling you who

811
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: they are. They're telling you, you know, that's why this

812
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: movie is like an exorcism somehow. It's opening the woman,

813
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 2: you know, it's opening a lot of things. It's bringing

814
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 2: the companies, forcing to have this conversation.

815
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 3: That people didn't want it to have before. You know, the.

816
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 2: Conversation is there right now at every level, at every level,

817
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: and I think this is this is the end. I

818
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: see the hand of God here. This is this is

819
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 2: a team work, This is a movement that no one

820
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 2: can stop. We're talking about millions. They can take me,

821
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: they can take now you know, Jinka Visa, they can

822
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: take Team Matter. They can't take millions of people, millions

823
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: of people. And this is just the beginning, you know,

824
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 2: in ago study, First the movies coming out in Mexico

825
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: and all over Latin America. Then a couple of weeks

826
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 2: later it's going to be all over Europe. We received like,

827
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: I don't know, seven hundred emails the other day. We're

828
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: ninety countries, I mean literally the whole world asking for

829
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: the film because they have the same problem in their country.

830
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: But maybe in the beginning they were they were afraid,

831
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 2: they didn't want to talk about this, and now they're talking.

832
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: This conversation is having, you know, this conversation is taking

833
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 2: place all over the world. And after we show the

834
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: movie in Washington on this I mean this Tuesday, to

835
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: all Congress, both parties. I think something's going to happen.

836
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: And I hope I can touch the heart of Washington

837
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: with this film, because if you touch Washington, you touch America,

838
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: you touch the world. We're talking about the most important

839
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 2: decision makers in the world, and it's all about making decisions,

840
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 2: making the right decisions, because when you make the wrong decisions,

841
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 2: you have an impact in the destiny of the country

842
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 2: and in the world, if not forever, for many years

843
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 2: for ludof bad And I hope some of freedom will

844
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: resonate in our hearts. I hope some of freedom will

845
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: put this issue as a priority issue. So instead of

846
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 2: sending one hundred billion dollars, one hundred billion dollars to

847
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: Ukraine in this war on a second, you know what,

848
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: Fentanyl is killing more people, more Americans and more Mexicans.

849
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: The war is here, the problem is here. Let's fix

850
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 2: our house first, Let's fix the relationship between our two nations,

851
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: and then we can see what's going on around the world.

852
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 2: But if your house is not fixed, if your heart

853
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: is not fixed, how are you going to be fixed

854
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: in the problems of other countries? Now, you start in

855
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: your house first, with your children. Then you can be

856
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 2: a light for other you know, for you can lead

857
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,479
Speaker 2: by example to other countries. But first way to fix

858
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 2: our polum here and we can, we can, but you

859
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: need the wood wheel first. And I think this movie

860
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: can be a light in the darkness. It can touch

861
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 2: the hearts of the decision makers, and I'm praying together

862
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 2: every day that that screening will be an important screen,

863
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: an important presentation, and it can be before and after

864
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: I think.

865
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: But let me ask you one last thing. And you've

866
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: been very generous with your time because I know how

867
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: busy you are. There are strong indications that you might,

868
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: as part of this process, end up running for president

869
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: of Mexico. That would be a gunteing challenge, at least

870
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: comparable to making this movie. Is there anything you can

871
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: with us about how you're thinking about it?

872
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 2: Well, Mexico is not doing well right now. I love

873
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: my country.

874
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 3: I moved to.

875
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: America twenty years ago and I experienced the American dream.

876
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: This country, the United States, has been such an amazing

877
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: blessing in my life. I'm very grateful to this nation

878
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: because opened the door to my dreams. And I'm very

879
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: grateful to this nation. And God blessed America and God

880
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 2: blessed Mexico. In twenty fifteen, I moved back to Mexico

881
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 2: with my movie Little Boy, and I started traveling around

882
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 2: my country very too states, listening to the people, talking

883
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 2: to my people. My plans. The goal was just to

884
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: go to Mexico for two weeks and come back to

885
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: Los Angeles.

886
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 3: I didn't come back. I stayed in Mexico.

887
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,400
Speaker 2: Because I realized, first of all.

888
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 3: I learned a lot of great things in America living here.

889
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: I know the American dream is now I'm back in Mexico,

890
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: and my heart was like literally like streaming to me,

891
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 2: like it's time to build the Mexican dream with the

892
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 2: people of Mexico. And I started dreaming in a day

893
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 2: where no Mexicans have to leave their country anymore because

894
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 2: of lack of opportunities or necessities. You can live if

895
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 2: you want to, but it's an optional, personal option, personal option, right,

896
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 2: not because you need, not because you have to. You

897
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: need to write. And then I started, I started like

898
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 2: realizing that our country is a rich country where a

899
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: lot of poor people are living. Something doesn't make any sense, right,

900
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: Corruption is the answer, of course. I mean there's many

901
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 2: other things, but corruption, corruption, corruption.

902
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 3: At a very high level.

903
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 2: Then I realized. Then I realized that Holland Second, we're

904
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: a Catholic country governed by anti Catholic government. They supposed

905
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: to represent the majority of the people, but they don't

906
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: have the same belief system. So there's something wrong here.

907
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: Then I realized that on a second, the majority of

908
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: the people are, including myself, were retired to see these politicians,

909
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: these political parties, who are destroying and raping our country

910
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: for decades, for decades, same people saying political you know,

911
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 2: parties promising the same things, promises that pose, promises that

912
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: they never delivered, you know, and then again and again

913
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: and again and again and again until enough is enough.

914
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 2: So when I started doing that, people start asking me

915
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: a logo. So, if you really love your country, if

916
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: you really care, why don't you? I mean, I know

917
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: that you've been working with this combination politics, art ethics,

918
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: values to serve the nation, but you always do it

919
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: from your you know, from the artistic from the artistic field, right,

920
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 2: But maybe maybe it's time for you to move to

921
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: your side and maybe do something disruptive.

922
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 3: You're an outsider, he said.

923
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 2: Now, you know, I'm not a politician, and I don't

924
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: believe that you have to be a politician a politician

925
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 2: to serve. I've been serving since the day I made

926
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 2: this promise to God that I will never use my

927
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 2: talents again to do anything that will offend my faith,

928
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: my family, or my Latino culture. And I've been doing

929
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: it with art. I mean, Plato said, if I have

930
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: to govern between if I have to choose, he said,

931
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 2: if you have to choose between art and politics to

932
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 2: govern a nation, he said, I would choose art because

933
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: art has the power to change people's you know, to

934
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: touch people's hearts and change their minds. Therefore, how they leave,

935
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 2: how they behave, how everything. So I'm doing that in

936
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 2: the field of filmmaking, yes, but maybe I don't know

937
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: think about it. So and then more people start asking me,

938
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: and then more and then more, and I didn't want

939
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: it to listen because I don't have you know, that's

940
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: not my dream, that's not my vocation. That's not what

941
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: I think God wanted me to do until when I

942
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 2: finish Sound of Freedom. And then I started doing this

943
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: tour again, this campaign against child trafficking.

944
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 3: And then I did another.

945
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 2: Tour with this other movie called On Plan, a pro

946
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: life film, again touring my country, taty two states. We

947
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: did taty two premieres with thousand people, you know, in

948
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: each premiere, and I was talking about being pro life

949
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mean only to defend the babies in the womb.

950
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 3: That's the most important war.

951
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: That we need to win right, Yes, but we don't

952
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: finish there because sometimes we are false accused that pro lifers,

953
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: you know, after the baby's born, we don't care.

954
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 3: That's not true.

955
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: Being pro life means that we need to take care

956
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: of those children who are living in these streets. Being

957
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: pro life means that we need to take off those

958
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 2: children who are victims of child exportation and sexual expectation.

959
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 2: Being pro life means to take care of those teenagers

960
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 2: who are suffering from addiction. So when I was talking,

961
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: people start raising their hands. Hey, want any part of

962
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: the movement. Yeah, go to a you know on plan,

963
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: hashtag on plan or hashtag you.

964
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 3: Know, sound of Freedom.

965
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: Now the movie comes and goes, what's next?

966
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 3: What's the legacy?

967
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 2: How can we all come together and you know, do

968
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,279
Speaker 2: the right thing and build the Makesican dream that you're

969
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 2: talking about, And that start touching my heart and my

970
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: soul and my mind start like reflecting and a potential possibility,

971
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 2: you know. But then, as I always do in every project,

972
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 2: I got to discerned. I talk to my spiritual director,

973
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: I pray, I fast, and I ask God, please let

974
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 2: me know if this is coming from you or not,

975
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: if it's from you open all the doors, and if

976
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: it's not for you, close all the doors. So make

977
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 2: it on sorry short to give you an answer. I'm

978
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 2: thinking about it. I'm praying about it. I ask the

979
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: people of Mexico, all the people who pray with me

980
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: the grocery every day on social media, you know, from

981
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 2: a few days, from a few weeks ago, all the

982
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: way until September fifteenth. We're doing this fasting and prayer

983
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: so I can do gats will, not my will. So

984
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: and I told President you will be, after my mother,

985
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 2: the first one to know, and you will be the

986
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 2: first one to know. I have to make the decision

987
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 2: very soon. I have to make it, desion, very soon.

988
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,719
Speaker 2: So I'm asking God to please help me to make

989
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: this decision. If it's a yes or no. At the

990
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: end of the day, it's not about good intentions. It's

991
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: not about what I want to do.

992
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,880
Speaker 3: This is my dream. If I do it, it's.

993
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: Because I love God and I love my country, and

994
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 2: I'm willing to die for God and for my country.

995
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 3: But he has to give me the green light or no.

996
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: I want you to keep doing what you're doing, so

997
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: please pray for me and whoever is listening to us

998
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 2: right now. Please pray for me so I can answer

999
00:49:31,880 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 2: soon Number one, but number two only if it is

1000
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 2: God's real, because if it's not, it would be a disaster.

1001
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: You know.

1002
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 2: I want to obey God. I don't want to obey

1003
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 2: my feelings or my thoughts. I just want to obey God.

1004
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 2: So please pray for me.

1005
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: Close and I will have you in our prayers. Whatever

1006
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: God leads you to do. And you've already been a

1007
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: great influence for good. I encourage everybody to see the

1008
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Sound of Freedom because I think that they will be

1009
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: stunned at how effectively you've communicated the pain in the

1010
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,320
Speaker 1: world and the opportunity to relieve a great deal of

1011
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: that pain. I want to thank you for joining me.

1012
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: I also must say that that you and your partners,

1013
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:16,600
Speaker 1: including Alejandro Gomez Monteverdi, have done an amazing job and

1014
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: I look forward to your future projects, whether they are

1015
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: leading and reforming Mexico or they're bringing us another brilliant film.

1016
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: And I hope to see you in the next few

1017
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: days out of filming, and I am going to strongly

1018
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: urge President Biden to host a viewing at the White House.

1019
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 1: I think this should be bipartisan. This should be everybody

1020
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: who cares about children, and I think you have started

1021
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: something very real, So thank you for joining us.

1022
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: Thank you, and for more information in how you can

1023
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: be part of this movement, just go to our website

1024
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 2: Angel dot com slash freedom, Angel dot com slash Freedom,

1025
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: Join the army. Together we can end this God blessure.

1026
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: Thank you to my guests, Eduardo Verastigi. Sound of Freedom

1027
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: is in theaters everywhere now. Newtsworld is produced by Gangrish

1028
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: three sixty and iHeartMedia. Our executive producer is Guarnsey Sloan

1029
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and our researcher is Rachel Peterson. The artwork for the

1030
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: show was created by Steve Penley. Special thanks to the

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Speaker 1: team at Gingrish three sixty. If you've been enjoying Newtsworld,

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1034
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1035
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