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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode of I Saw What

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Speaker 1: You Did. My name is Millie to Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson,

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Speaker 1: and uh we're here having a summer with you. How

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Speaker 1: are you feeling, Daniel?

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Speaker 2: Feeling pretty good. I'm hot, always always hot, but feeling good.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah it is it was so hot so early?

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Speaker 1: Did you feel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? It was. Well, we're getting like the we're in

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Speaker 2: a real climate change summer as per usual where it's

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Speaker 2: like just vacillating each week from hot to rainy, to

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Speaker 2: boiling hot to cold, boiling hot, even hotter, the hottest

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Speaker 2: day on record on Earth ever too cold, and it's

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Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Was like somebody, I was like listening to somebody here

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Speaker 1: in Georgia talk about the weather, and they were talking

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Speaker 1: about how like it hadn't been this hot so early,

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Speaker 1: because apparently it was like June was so hot in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: like they broke all these records, right, and they were

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Speaker 1: like they said something about El Nino, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: el Nino again, who is this motherfucker.

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Speaker 2: El Nino? Are we going back to like MySpace with

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Speaker 2: the fuck?

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Speaker 1: I was like, okay, please don't come at me. People

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Speaker 1: who know a lot about weather, okay, but I was like,

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Speaker 1: I thought el Nino was like a one and done situation.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that he's gonna stick around like all

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Speaker 1: the time, causing fucking pulling antics, like a little leprechaun,

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Speaker 1: like I'm gonna make it super hot and you're gonna

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Speaker 1: sweat in your house.

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Speaker 2: Heh. I also didn't think it was a summertime occurrence,

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Speaker 2: like I thought el Nina was like, oh no, it's

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Speaker 2: winter and oh God, who cares. But yeah, I just

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Speaker 2: didn't know it was like a NonStop Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I thought that I didn't realize, yeah, that he was

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Speaker 1: just going to plague us for the rest of our lives.

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Speaker 1: We didn't get this great email from Jess f and

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Speaker 1: she uses she her pronouns and Jess writes, hey, pals,

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Speaker 1: my inner critic made me edit this and send it again.

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Speaker 1: O g listener here, thanks for giving me my film

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Speaker 1: fix while I'm in counseling school and don't have much

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Speaker 1: time to sit down for a flick. I am writing

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Speaker 1: because I was raised by a die hard ishtar fan,

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Speaker 1: which has inexorably shaped my taste in movies. I know, right,

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Speaker 1: Like we had the ridiculous soundtrack on a homemade cassette

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Speaker 1: to listen to as we drove to the big city

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Speaker 1: for orthodontist appointments. This is the level of ish Tar

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Speaker 1: super fan and evangelist. My mom was slash still is?

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Speaker 1: He asked, did Ishtar ever get the cult following it

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Speaker 1: deserves or is it just us? So my question is this,

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Speaker 1: is there a movie you adore that quote unquote flopped

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Speaker 1: and which you think would have done better in any

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Speaker 1: other era?

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Speaker 2: Jess f good question, Jess. Also, what a hell of

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Speaker 2: a way to describe your parents die hard Ishtar fan?

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Speaker 2: Like that says a mouthful.

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Speaker 1: An Ishtar evangelist?

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Speaker 2: Is what?

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Speaker 1: Is what Jess said? Which means that it just doesn't

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Speaker 1: sit in a silent fan world. There they're out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically creating a ministry around this film.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, while you're out there getting your fucking braces pulled

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Speaker 2: around your mouth, your parents are out in the lobby

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Speaker 2: in the waiting room talking to the reception, is like about,

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Speaker 2: have you seen Ishtar? Why not let me play you

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Speaker 2: some songs in this movie.

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Speaker 1: I made you a cassette of soundtrack.

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Speaker 2: Please tell me your parents handed out Mick Ishtar mixtapes.

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Speaker 2: That's all I need to know. But this is a

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Speaker 2: good question.

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Speaker 1: I agree. Do you have an answer or do you

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Speaker 1: have some.

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Speaker 2: As I've got some answers for sure. I think by

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Speaker 2: centennial man, come on, and I'm kidding, flopped and needed

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Speaker 2: to flop but still hilarious. It's always hard for me

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Speaker 2: to tell what's a flop because if I like a movie,

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Speaker 2: I just like it. So I'm just basing this some

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Speaker 2: like box office numbers. But I think So I Married

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Speaker 2: an Ax Murderer was technically a flop from nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 2: but it is one of my all time favorite movies

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Speaker 2: and the most quotable movie of our generation.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely one percent.

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Speaker 2: So it might not have like made a bunch of money,

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Speaker 2: but it was like still foundational to most of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a So I Married an Axe Murderer.

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Speaker 2: T shirt unreal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: And I and I do agree with Hear that the

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Speaker 1: concept of a flop is so it's almost liquid, you

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Speaker 1: because there's like the idea of a movie that was

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Speaker 1: like movies that never even got the chance to really

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Speaker 1: like be put out there, Like the studio kind of

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Speaker 1: deemed it a flop before beforehand and was just like, well,

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Speaker 1: we're not we're just gonna sheolve this movie. We're not

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Speaker 1: even gonna put it out. So it's like two wet,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's also like if you're going

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Speaker 2: by number, this is why it's so volatile too, to

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Speaker 2: like to the movie watching audience that you could love

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Speaker 2: a theater, but because it didn't earn like one hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars the first two days, it's considered a flop,

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Speaker 2: and it has a shorter run, and it has less advertising,

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Speaker 2: in a lot of instances. I think another example for

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Speaker 2: from two thousand and six, which I think was technically

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Speaker 2: that movie came out today, it would be an absolute blockbuster. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: absolute blockbuster. It's such a good movie. It has such

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Speaker 2: an amazing cast. The Michael Kaine character in that movie

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Speaker 2: was like my go to image for what I posted

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Speaker 2: about like how my quarantine was going during the height

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Speaker 2: you've got just the concept of the film, Like there's

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Speaker 2: the synopsis of the film basically is that babies are

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Speaker 2: not being born anymore. And then this Clive Owen character

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Speaker 2: and I just I really love it. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think a lot of people have seen it, and I

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, I think about this

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Speaker 1: often because you know, I sort of dabble and flops,

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Speaker 1: guess my answer for this, I'm gonna go, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: old school, I think, because there's there's I think about

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor often. We've talked we've talked about her often

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Speaker 1: these actresses, these classic Hollywood actresses were being put out

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Speaker 1: about this movie in my book called Secret Ceremony from

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eight, and Elizabeth Taylor was actually in these

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Speaker 1: and Elizabeth Taylor was in two of them, and Secret

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Speaker 1: those movies were flopped apparently when it came out. Obviously

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Speaker 1: I think personally if those movies would have come out today,

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Speaker 1: like exactly in terms, especially Secret Ceremony, which we're gonna

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Speaker 1: starring Elizabeth Taylor and Mia Farrow essentially at the same

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Speaker 1: time she was in Rosemary's Baby. Secret Ceremony came out

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Speaker 1: I actually think similarly with Boom. I feel like Boom,

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Speaker 1: Plus if you want to get down to brass tacks.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I think Elizabeth Taylor, if her entire

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Speaker 1: She would be like Tilda Swinton. Essentially, she would be

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Speaker 1: I mean, at least maybe I'm projecting, maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor could go weird in her later period, it

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Speaker 2: Right, completely, Oh, completely, there's just a little bit. There's

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Speaker 2: a little more runway now for directors especially, but studios,

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Speaker 2: think that a lot of studios have, finally, especially since

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Speaker 2: I fucking love it. I don't know if anyone remembers,

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait to talk about your film. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 2: The screenplay is by Steven Lisberger and Stephen Karabatzos. It

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Speaker 2: considered with him. I've never looked at him and thought, huh, cute.

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00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't believe that's the only time this has

435
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: ever been uttered in any broadcast in the history of podcasts.

436
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: Words have never been uttered in life, even from his

437
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,159
Speaker 2: like wife or family.

438
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 1: I'm sure, what what what moment did you discover that

439
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: you had the hots for Robert Loja? Was it when

440
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,120
Speaker 1: he had his entire sailor shirt opened.

441
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 2: Once he was on that boat shirtless? I was like, huh, okay,

442
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: maybe maybe I'm in a very horny period of my life.

443
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: What can I say, Yo, summer is a horny time.

444
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's just say that I've cracked open the seal, I've

445
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 2: moved the rock from in front of the cave, and

446
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: it's just free wheel and horniness now. But Jerry Stiller

447
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 2: is in this movie, a young Ben Stiller is in

448
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: this film, Like it is a real Paul fucking Keith

449
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: David and Paul Bates, Like it is an incredible cast.

450
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 2: And I just can't believe. I don't think a lot

451
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: of people have seen it, because again, for us, it

452
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 2: was one of those movies that was on cable all

453
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: the time during the summer. So I'll just give you

454
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 2: a one sentence synopsis and then we'll get in a

455
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: horny prep school team puts himself in the path of

456
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,120
Speaker 2: danger and destruction while trying to join his girlfriend and

457
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 2: her family on a Caribbean vacation. Yes, simple, simple. The

458
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: movie opens with a longish hair John Cusack sitting on

459
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: the top bunk in his dorm room of his prep

460
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 2: school just eating an entire HOGI and that is that

461
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 2: is the cornerstone of my sexuality. I think that was.

462
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: The watershed moment for you, just right out the gate.

463
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 2: And this is why we all wanted to destroy his

464
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 2: dick in the eighties. He was effortless, effortlessly cute.

465
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: When I looked at him, I was like, oh, he's

466
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 1: such a babyface in this film, Like, yes, the freckles,

467
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: the teeth, like everything.

468
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 2: He still has his characteristic stomp. Like there's one point

469
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 2: where he goes to the hallway to answer the phone

470
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: and it's very high fidelity just watching him walk, like, oh,

471
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: that's a very distinctive walk. But he's just chilling out.

472
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 2: He's trying to study. It's you know, it's it's Easter

473
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: week and you know they're about to go on spring break,

474
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 2: and he's just he's stressing out. And in a short

475
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 2: amount of time. You realize that he's kind of a

476
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 2: scholarship kid at this prep school and he's really stressed

477
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: out about passing all of his exams. So he's in

478
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: a science lab and studying and this cat burglar shows

479
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 2: up and you're like, what the fuck, Like you're watching

480
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: this person like scale this fucking building and like with

481
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: the mask and everything, And it turns out it's his girlfriend, Laurie.

482
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 2: Because that's what you had to do if you were

483
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: a woman who wanted to get late in the eighties,

484
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: you had to put on a mass scale of building

485
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: and just surprise a man.

486
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had to learn Parkore basically, or we get

487
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: laid was.

488
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: He's like excited to see her and they're so cute,

489
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: but then they fight because he wants to study. And

490
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: this is where some of that unfortunate derogatory language comes

491
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: into play when they're describing another student, which I hate.

492
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 2: But they have this fight because she's like, I'm horny,

493
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: Let's go to this fucking fabulous Thunderbirds concert of all things.

494
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 1: God, I was like a big fan of the fabulous Thunderbirds.

495
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: Of course you were when I was a kid.

496
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 2: Of course you were. Of course I was.

497
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, are these middle aged men dressed

498
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: in suit suit type gear playing like blues music?

499
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: Is it like?

500
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: Is it a band that like a fifty seven year

501
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: old man would love? Yes, that's my that's my band.

502
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: Is there a chance? All we need to do is

503
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: ed Bruce Willis singing about wine coolers and that would

504
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: have been your lollapalooza eight.

505
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: And then listen Robert Lojah.

506
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: Throwing Eddie and Elizabeth money, and you're saying, that's your

507
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: your concert extravaganza for the summer in nineteen eighty.

508
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Taylor and like a floor length gown with gloves

509
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: doing the like Ronnie Spector dance from the take Take

510
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: Me Home Tonight video in the back.

511
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Oh no, god, I would do this concert.

512
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 3: Now.

513
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: This is where I need holograms to be. I don't

514
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: need to say Tupac in a fucking hologram. I need

515
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 2: Elizabeth Taylor, any money. The fabulous Thunderbirds, whoever of them

516
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 2: is dead, they could all be alive. I'm not sure,

517
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 2: my apologies if they're all still alive and eighties Bruce Willis,

518
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: let's get these fucking holograms poppin'.

519
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: We should be able to go to any casino where

520
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: this show is happening.

521
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 2: Right right, we should be able to use holograms to

522
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: make our own dream concerts, is all I'm say in.

523
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: So they fight, and this is also where we learned

524
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: that he's supposed to go on vacation with her and

525
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 2: her family for ten days right after his exams. So

526
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: the unfortunate event that kicks off this movie is that

527
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 2: he flunks his fucking his chemistry exam and he has

528
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: to stay behind for a makeup test. So when they

529
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,719
Speaker 2: pull up in their you know, family Vovo station wagon

530
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 2: to come get him, he's like, I have to stay

531
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: and do this fucking makeup test. And Laurie's dad already

532
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: fucking hates Dan, so when she comes downstairs and tries

533
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 2: to lie, and then his roommate blows that lie out

534
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: of the water within seconds, his dad's like, that guy's spineless,

535
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 2: Like he's just such a fucking prick of a dad.

536
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: But then we also get this incredible moment with the

537
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 2: chemistry professor Kowalski who comes to his room, which fuck that,

538
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: Like prep schools already fuck that, but coming to my

539
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: fucking room if you're a professor and I'm a teenager.

540
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: I do not need that kind of fucking pressure. That

541
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: is weird. But he comes in with good news and

542
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: he kind of is like, you know, what happened? Why

543
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: didn't you study? And what's this heart thing on here?

544
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Why are you doodling on this shit? But he kind

545
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 2: of lobs him an easy question that allows him to

546
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: pass without having to do the makeup exam. So he

547
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 2: runs to the airport. Dan is like on a fucking mission,

548
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: but he's missed the plane. So this is what kicks

549
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 2: off the hot pursuit is. The rest of the movie

550
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: is him trying to catch up with Lauri and her family.

551
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Laurie's family is fucking wild. Her dad is such a

552
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: goddamn weirdo. At one point he asks they're going to

553
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 2: this place called Laguna del Mar and he's like, oh,

554
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: don't you want to see the place where you were conceived?

555
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: And I'm like, Dad, can you dial it back eighteen notches?

556
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: And he just fall on goes into this tale about like, oh, yeah,

557
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 2: your mom was drunk on Margarita's basically, and we banged

558
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: and then you were born. And I'm like, I don't

559
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: think anyone needs to hear that story.

560
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: Also, their last name is Cronenberg, Yeah, which I guess.

561
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 1: It hit me at that moment. I was like, Oh,

562
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: that's an actual last name that people can have. It's

563
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: not just one guy who makes movies from Canada. I

564
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 1: guess maybe like other people can.

565
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 2: Have that last name. And this is when it hit

566
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: you in twenty twenty three, watching a nineteen eighty seven

567
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: film that you've never seen before. Oh, god, fucking I

568
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: love how soft brained we get in the summer, just

569
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: boiling these brains to mush. Oh my god, Oh that

570
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: is so funny. But yeah, like there, so he's just

571
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: like they're going on this yacht and they're very moneyed

572
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: in like that eighties way. But then she also has

573
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: this little sister, Ginger, who's a fucking g Ginger is

574
00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: such a goddamn weirdo. She so fucking funny, and she's

575
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: she's very she's used minimally, but she instantly calls the

576
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: Ben Stiller character a douchebag. And then once they actually

577
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: get on their yacht, she's like, oh, yeah, I've already

578
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: like rifled through everyone's cabin. She's just a mini cat

579
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: burglar on the rise, and she's fucking hilarious. So nobody

580
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: knows that Dan is trying to run after them because

581
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: cell phones didn't exist back then. So he does get

582
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 2: on a plane and he flies to this place called

583
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: Port Rosa, and then he has to call the hotel

584
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: or the place where he thinks Laurie and her family

585
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: are staying and leave a message that's like, hey, I'm

586
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: trying to catch up with you. But that's the only

587
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: way he could have even indicated that he was on

588
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: his way. Like once you were traveling in the eighties,

589
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: you were basically off the grid until you came back.

590
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, it hit me so hard watching this film

591
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: where I was like, how did anybody travel successfully before

592
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: a cell phone? Like it just seems so so like

593
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: scrapped together, you know. Yeah, you know you had.

594
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 2: To plan every detail before you left, and if one

595
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: thing went wrong, you were fucked.

596
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you didn't have a paper ticket. If you

597
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: didn't have your paper ticket, you weren't able to travel.

598
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: Like it's like there's a lot of steak and you

599
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: read to get at.

600
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 2: Those goddamn travelers checks ready because credit cards were even

601
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 2: few and far between for most people. Yeah, I debit cards, Oh.

602
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I never went abroad until I guess the

603
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: late nineties early two thousands, so there was technically like

604
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 1: an internet grid or something. But like watching this movie,

605
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I was like, how the hell did anybody go outside

606
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: of their house without you know, phones, you know anything,

607
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: Like when the phone was dead, it was just dead.

608
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: Like there's no text, there's no anything.

609
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: Like just going for groceries in the eighties was a

610
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 2: real a real time. Like let's say you go to

611
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: the grocery store, you run into someone, you have a

612
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 2: conversation for forty five minutes. You were technically dead to

613
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 2: your family for those forty five minutes. Like we expected

614
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: her back an hour ago, and then she didn't come back.

615
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: We're just assuming she's gone kidnapped, dead, whatever accident, Like

616
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 2: we don't know what happened to her.

617
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because the entire time, Laurie is trying to

618
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: call him, trying to call Dan to be like hey,

619
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: I miss you, where are you? And then he is

620
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: like on the way to her, but she's on a boat. Yeah,

621
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: so he can't. I mean, it's just it is wild.

622
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 1: It's wild.

623
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 2: It's truly wild, and I love I love the kind

624
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 2: of plane trains an automobile, like the mom and home

625
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 2: alone energy of trying to catch someone, trying to hit

626
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: a certain point so you can meet up with someone.

627
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 2: So he is really panicking and we have after he

628
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 2: leaves this message for her, a truly racist man steals

629
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: his cap, Like this white guy gets into his cab

630
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 2: and is like, oh, by the way, watch out for

631
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 2: the locals, And I'm like, how about watch out for

632
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 2: you. You're just pulling some fuck shit and stealing my cab. Yeah,

633
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 2: like what the fuck. But because of that, he has

634
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 2: to get a ride with some locals because he notices

635
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 2: that one of them is wearing a shirt that has

636
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 2: the logo of the hotel where the family is staying.

637
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: So he gets into this VW Thing, which if you

638
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: have never seen this car, you have to look it

639
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: up immediately. It is one of my favorite cars of

640
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: all time. The VW Thing and the fucking Plymouth Barracuda

641
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 2: best cars in the world. I would absolutely if I

642
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: were the kind of person who could mentally get myself

643
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 2: to a place where I thought I could own two

644
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: cars as one person, I would buy a Barracuda tomorrow.

645
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, But if you could, if you could imagine yourself

646
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 1: as James Glickenhouse, you would definitely own that car.

647
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: I think it's criminal to own like multiple cars when

648
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: you're just one person. But if I did not think

649
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: it was criminal, Jay Leno is top of the list

650
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: of like, when the revolution comes, we're raiding his house first.

651
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: There's no need for you to own that many fucking cars.

652
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 2: You're one person. You cannot sit in all those cars

653
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 2: at once. You're not letting anyone else drive them. It's

654
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,799
Speaker 2: fucking criminal. But he gets in this fucking BW thing

655
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 2: with Cleon Roxanne and Alfonso, and Alfonso is played by

656
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 2: Keith David, who you will know. If you don't know

657
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: his name, you will absolutely know his face. And they

658
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: are just these cool assue people who are like, yeah,

659
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: hop in the car, we'll fucking take you there. The

660
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: only problem is that they're holding a few pounds of

661
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: weed and they hit a road check and so they

662
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 2: have to take a detour. And it's kind of funny

663
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: to see this like white prep school guy in the

664
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: car with them, and he's very uncomfortable, and then when

665
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 2: they pull up the weed, he's like, is that all weed?

666
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 2: Like he's never seen that much weed in his life. Yeah,

667
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: but they take this shortcut and they end up getting

668
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,439
Speaker 2: crashing their car while they're trying to cross a river,

669
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: like the car gets stuck. So they spend the night

670
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: in the jungle just smoking weed and throw a machetes,

671
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 2: you know, like you do. I do that all the time,

672
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 2: all the time, anytime I'm waylaid by even a little bit, like,

673
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 2: let me fucking throw some machetes, smoke some weed. And

674
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: there's this really funny line where he turns to Alfonso

675
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 2: and he's like, are you really just planning on spending

676
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: the night in the jungle at Alfonso says, nah, man,

677
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 2: we're not planning it. We're just doing it, which is

678
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: such like an island thing to say, like just go

679
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: with the fucking flow, like just this is what's happening.

680
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 2: We're gonna get the car out in the morning. But

681
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: Dan is like, fuck no, I'll get the goddamn car

682
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 2: out using the Pythagorean theorem, and he tries to like

683
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 2: leaver the car out of the water, and it's just

684
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: very funny to watch him not be able to kind

685
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 2: of sit still in this situation. So he decides to

686
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: take off on foot in the morning by himself, and

687
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 2: just starts rolling down hills and getting cut the fuck

688
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: up by the jungle. And the twist here is, of course,

689
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 2: that the car gets towed out in the morning by

690
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: a bus, but he's not with them, so they actually

691
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 2: pull up to the hotel and see Laurie and her family,

692
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 2: who they recognize from a picture that he's been carrying.

693
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: And if he had just stayed with him, he would

694
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: have been able to the movie would have been twenty

695
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: minutes long. He could have met up with the family

696
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: and been on the boat. But the other funny thing

697
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 2: about this scene is that they're trying to tell her, oh, hey,

698
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 2: we were just with your boy Dan. Did you meet

699
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: up with him? Did you find him? But racism prevents

700
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: them from telling her because as soon as her family

701
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: sees these three black people coming at her, the dad

702
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 2: is like no, no, no, no, no, no. He fucking

703
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: panics yeah, And I'm like, oh, dad, if you had

704
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 2: just not this been a little bit less racist, then

705
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: maybe your girlfriend could have hooked up with her boyfriend.

706
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 2: But no, so they're like fucking fine, like whenever we

707
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: tried to tell you. So Laurie and her family take off.

708
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 2: Dan does finally right, right, as soon as they take off,

709
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: he basically rolls up to the hotel and he, you know,

710
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: kind of gets back together with Cleon and Roxanne and

711
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 2: Alfonso and they run to catch the boat. They don't

712
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 2: they don't make it. They're all laughing at him, like,

713
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 2: what the fuck, dude. You know your fucking girlfriend's racist

714
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 2: family is terrible and that's why you're not in that

715
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 2: boat right now. But what happens next is a bunch

716
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 2: of near misses of him trying to connect with Laurie

717
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 2: and her family after they get on their yacht, the

718
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Crystal Slipper. And what's hilarious here is the characters that

719
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 2: he meets along the way. So Ben Stiller is on

720
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 2: the boat with Laurie and he's playing a very young

721
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 2: hornball and he's on this yacht and he's trying to

722
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: hit on Laurie and they're just like on a yacht,

723
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: having the time of their lives. Meanwhile, Dan is super sad.

724
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: He's in a bar on the beach. He orders a

725
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 2: single rum and they give him the whole bottle and

726
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: he's just getting He's drunk to the point where when

727
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 2: Robert Lujah finally walks into the bar he's like drinking

728
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:52,360
Speaker 2: his rum out of a model sailboat in a corner,

729
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: just getting fucking trashed, and the Robert Lujah character Mac

730
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: is basically like, Hey, I'm looking for this boat, the

731
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 2: Crystal Slipper. I'm looking for the family. And even though

732
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: Dan is drunk, he's like, where I know who that

733
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: family is. I'm trying to catch him too, So he

734
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: basically gets kidnapped. He gets super drunk, passes out, Matt

735
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,919
Speaker 2: kidnaps him and puts him on the boat to help

736
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 2: him chase the Crystal Slipper. Mac is fucking nuts when

737
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 2: we meet Mac, he's basically planning on killing and eating

738
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: some of the birds on the boat, and he's talking

739
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 2: about something called an intergalactic Rosetta Stone. Like he's just

740
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 2: fucking sun baked, fucking insane. And it doesn't get any

741
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: better once they sail into a hurricane because Dan thinks

742
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: he's gonna die, but Mac actually falls over and Dan

743
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: rescues him but also kind of loses his mind in

744
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 2: the process. At one point he screams, I'll sail this

745
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 2: boat right into your black heart at a hurricane, and

746
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: a reminder, he's in high school, so he's having like

747
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 2: a real mental fucking break, and even though they survived

748
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: the hurricane, the engine blows, so Dan's like, fuck it,

749
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 2: he jumps off the boat. This whole movie is really

750
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 2: a testament to patience, Like, if you're just a little

751
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: bit patient, you probably will get where you're going more

752
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: than if you freak out and jump off of boats

753
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: and land right in the hands of the local authorities. Yeah.

754
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: This this movie is also a testament to the desperation

755
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 1: of teen horniness.

756
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: One hundred fucking percent. The things this man is willing

757
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: to put himself through just to get a little bit

758
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: of sex, Yeah, is truly encapsulates what the eighties were

759
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: all about.

760
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the idea that he and this Mac character

761
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: would even be in the same orbit is a testament to,

762
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, kind of his desperation to get laid.

763
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 2: Essentially, it is wild.

764
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: That that whole hurricane part reminded me very much of

765
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: the Lieutenant Dan sequence from Four Gump, where like Mac

766
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: is essentially a white guy that's lived in an island

767
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: nation for way.

768
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 2: Too long, looks like a piece of beef jerky.

769
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and he's just a lunatic and he's like

770
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: screaming at Mother Nature in the same way that Lieutenant

771
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: Dan is like screaming during the hurricane of in the

772
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: Forest Gump, and I was just like wow, Like this

773
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: is a character. Now there's two characters in movie history

774
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: that have screamed at hurricanes.

775
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: At least this is a trope. We're gonna put it

776
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 2: in our Elizabeth and Eddie Money movie.

777
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: They're not like wibcoms. They're like, we have to come

778
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: up with another term for like, who is the grizzled

779
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: older guy who screams at hurricanes on a boat.

780
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: And in the future that person is going to be Crispine.

781
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 2: I can just see Chris Pine in one of those

782
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: roles you fucking mail. Absolutely ah, Chris Pine. He is

783
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 2: He is this generation of actors. He is the one

784
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: who will take on that role.

785
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: Oh, because he's craggy hot royalty Like he's he is

786
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: like an early adopter of the craggy hot lifestyle and

787
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: he has definitely rolling into that mode in his sixties

788
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: and seventies. Are you kidding? He is the new Robert Loja.

789
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: Let's get serious.

790
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: I can't wait, I can't wait, and look, things just

791
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 2: keep getting like escalating and popping off, like after Dan

792
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: gets arrested, essentially Mac bust him out of jail by

793
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: just dynamiting the fucking jail like and stealing a police car.

794
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 2: This is also where we learn that Chris, the Ben

795
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 2: Stiller character, is basically hijacked. He hijacked Max's boat last year,

796
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: and he's very dangerous, so we come to learn more

797
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 2: about him. He's not actually the captain in this boat. He's,

798
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 2: you know, very dangerous character, as is Jerry Stiller, who

799
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: plays Victor Honeywell, you know, they meet him kind of

800
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: casually on a The family meets him casually at a

801
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 2: at a beach bar, and he ends up being a

802
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: very dangerous character as well. So Dan essentially gets put

803
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: in the place towards the end of the film where

804
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: he has to save this family, which will finally put

805
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: him in the dad's good graces, but only after he's

806
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 2: been stabbed and jailed and has been through hell and

807
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: all he can think about is like boning this guy's daughter.

808
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: So it's a really delightful to me. It's a delightful

809
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: summer film in a lot of ways. It's just it's

810
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 2: a quick watch. It just it's hilarious. It just keeps going,

811
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 2: and I love movies that just keep escalating to the

812
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 2: point of absurdity. And look, Johnny Cusack never been hotter,

813
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: would still destroy the d and we can never have

814
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 2: him as a guest on the show. Now, because I've

815
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 2: now said that twice.

816
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: Every member of the QSA family is banned from listening

817
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: to this podcast.

818
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: I keep just cutting us off at the ankles with

819
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: all your relation to the family of actors we love

820
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 2: the most, because I cannot stop talking about how much

821
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: I want to bang their brother.

822
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: You're too horny for these folks. Also, Gregory Peck's family

823
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: is not allowed to be Yeah.

824
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a point where there's not a

825
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 2: person who is related to anyone in Hollywood who's allowed

826
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 2: to listen to our podcast.

827
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm saying a pattern between Kevin Klein, John Cusack, and

828
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: Gregory Peck. You're loving a tall, dark haired sex pot.

829
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: You're just like I love a brooder. I love a broody,

830
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: a broody, brown eyed, fucking MOPy piece of shit.

831
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, this was a absolute unknown to me

832
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: before you pitched it. I was like, hot Pursuit. Have

833
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: you ever heard of that movie? What is this movie?

834
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 1: And then when I found out it was a John

835
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Cusack movie, it was like, what the fuck? Like, I

836
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 1: was actually really surprised that I had never heard of it.

837
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: But it's it's perfect. It's a perfect summer film, I

838
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,439
Speaker 1: think for multiple reasons, right, because it's like a kind

839
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 1: of like a like a teen film. There's a lot

840
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 1: of island locations, a lot of boats, but then there's

841
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of got that like madcap quality

842
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: to it. It's like a a quest movie. And you're right,

843
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: John Cusack is so cute in it, and you know,

844
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: I liked it. He's a little action oriented. Like there

845
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: was a part like towards the end of the film

846
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: when he's like trying to save the family where he

847
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: puts this like I don't know if it's like a

848
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: bandolier or something across his chest and it looks kind

849
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: of it's kind of like a Rambo nod. And I

850
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, he's not just you know, a brooding,

851
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: moody teenager with a gym bag. He's uh, he's got

852
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: a machine gun.

853
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,439
Speaker 2: He's got a fucking bandalier of grenades, and he uses

854
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 2: his tie to tie it around his forehead to keep

855
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 2: the sweat out of his eyes while he's rec Yeah.

856
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: I kind of loved seeing him like that. He wasn't

857
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: just you know, crying in front of a girl's window.

858
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: New pitch. John Chezac is the new John Wick. What.

859
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, damn, man, they should have made

860
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: him a little bit more of these characters. But anyway,

861
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed it. I thought it was perfect. I

862
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: definitely saw you picking this film.

863
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm so glad you liked that, especially since you've never

864
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 2: seen or even heard of it. Yeah.

865
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: Oh, it's such a great It's such an eighties teen film.

866
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: Like I just was like, oh my god, this is

867
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,840
Speaker 1: so perfect. But and it actually was like the reason

868
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: why I picked my film in a way.

869
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll we got to talk about your film. Oh

870
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:44,959
Speaker 2: of course.

871
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: I mean this was this was a late entry, as

872
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, I kind of came up with this at

873
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: the last minute. But it was definitely because I was like, huh,

874
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: what's Daniel's movie for this week? Oh? Interesting, maybe I'll

875
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: pick a film that is a slight homage to that genre.

876
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: Welle very complimentary.

877
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: Yes, So my film for this month, this Hot Movies Month.

878
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: We're calling it Hot Movies Part duh. This Week is

879
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 1: a movie from two thousand and one. It was written

880
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: by David Wayne and Michael Showalter. It was directed by

881
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: David Wayne and it's called Wet Hot American Summer.

882
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: Four campers are stuck in the Rope's course. I meant

883
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: to tell you about that yesterday.

884
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: Did you get to it? Now, let's talk about the

885
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 1: State a little bit more, because I have so when

886
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I was like such a dork

887
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: for like sketch comedy. I think a lot of people were,

888
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: and oh yeah, I what so I was not gonna lie.

889
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I was pretty much a complete and utter stand for

890
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 1: the kids in the Hall, almost exclusively. Like I just

891
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: was like, there's nobody better than the kids in the hall.

892
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: This is the funniest show I've ever seen. I did

893
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: love SNL. I think now everybody loved SNL, But then

894
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: you know, from my heart it was there could be

895
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: only one group of guys, and it was the kids

896
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: in the Hall. However, I remember when the State came out.

897
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: I want to say I was I was in high

898
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: school when they came out, right, because it was like

899
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of early mid nineties, and immediately it was like

900
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: they're the coolest people ever.

901
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 2: They were of our generator. They were they were of

902
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 2: our generation. There were Gen xers, yeah, but slightly old

903
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: the early twenties when they you know, they started the

904
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 2: State when they were all students at NYU, so they

905
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 2: were all in their early twenties when they had this

906
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 2: TV show, and they were they brought a level of

907
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: absurdity to sketch comedy that had heretofore not been seen. Yeah,

908
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 2: and I like the there is there are endless sketches

909
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: that I could reference here, but one in particular, it's

910
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: called Porcupine Racetrack, And I can sing the entire song

911
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,480
Speaker 2: from memory right now, and that is what like. They

912
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 2: used their production budget to make the most insane fucking

913
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: things that were all also so goddamn funny.

914
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were perfect for MTV because it was like

915
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: they were young, they looked kind of alternative. It was

916
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: like a bunch of like shaggy haired, cool New York

917
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: people smoking cigarettes and like, you know, and then the

918
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: theme song was done by you know, the lead Sigarette

919
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: Shut Her to Think, who was a band that I

920
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: loved and Crazy Wedron. Yeah, and he actually did some

921
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: of the music for what Hot American summer too, But

922
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: it was like this whole vibe of them that I

923
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: really was like, Oh my god, they're like of they're

924
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: like us, you know, those stars, they're just like us.

925
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: So when this movie came out, I was really like,

926
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I really wanted to see it because of

927
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: that lineage, because of the state.

928
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: You know.

929
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: However, I think what I saw it in two thousand

930
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: and one, I didn't really like it very much. I

931
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 1: have to admit that, and I and so part of

932
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,720
Speaker 1: me picking this film this week was because I wanted

933
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: to give it a second shot. Because here's the thing,

934
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: I there were probably reasons why I didn't like it.

935
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 1: I think I was expecting a lot because of that

936
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: because of the State.

937
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: And it's not like the State. It's similar comedy vibes

938
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: very different.

939
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, very different. I don't think at the time I

940
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: was kind of clued into what they were parodying, I

941
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: think as much as I am now. But I also

942
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: felt like I was completely on the wrong side of

943
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 1: history because like, even though this movie was, you know,

944
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: a commercial and critical flop when it came out, this

945
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: movie is so beloved by people and I think as

946
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 1: a cult classic at this point. I mean, I know

947
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: so many people who adore this movie. I went on

948
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Letterbox just to kind of get like a temp check

949
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: of like, who do I know that love this movie?

950
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: And our producer Casey O'Brien gave it five stars on Letterbox,

951
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, like I must be wrong.

952
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: I need to like, I need to, you know, do

953
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: a critical reappraisal of this film, because I was like,

954
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm missing something. But I will say I think after

955
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: watching it this time, especially after reading about it and

956
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of watching a few things about the making of

957
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: the of the movie, I think I appreciate it now

958
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: more than I did before.

959
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: And trust me, it's not like the best movie by far. Sure,

960
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 2: I think it's it's there's a lot it goes off

961
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 2: the rails at one point to an astonishing degree.

962
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Casey O'Brien actually said it was the

963
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: best movie. So so now we.

964
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: Have to fight.

965
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,839
Speaker 1: So now you guys are going to debate about this

966
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 1: for the rest of the episode. But yeah, I'll go

967
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: into I think why I now like it because I

968
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 1: think I guess, like I said, I think it's just

969
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: because now I know more than I did in two

970
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: thousand and one as a movie person, as a person

971
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: who appreciates film. And I've seen so many films since

972
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and one too that I can kind of

973
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 1: put in a different context, right, Because so this movie,

974
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean, a one sentence synopsis is kind of like

975
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 1: hard But I will say I think this movie is

976
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: a like a parody or like a pastiche if you will,

977
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: of early eighties summer camp films. I think the obvious

978
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: one is Meatballs, but I also think there are elements

979
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: of sleep Away Camp. I know that's like a horror film,

980
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: but I definitely think that the guy's tiny shorts thing

981
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: from sleep Away Camp was a big influence on wet,

982
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: hot American summer, A little Friday the thirteenth, you know,

983
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 1: and like Little Darlings, which is my favorite kind of

984
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: of this era, A.

985
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: Little creep show, A little creep show.

986
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think there's a there's a lot of

987
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: a lot of different things, but because but it was

988
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: like in general influenced by this early eighties summer camp

989
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: horny teen film era. Right, And I had read that

990
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: David Wayne and Michael Showalter had gone to these summer

991
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: camps as kids, these you know, Jewish summer camps. And

992
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: I know at one point we did talk about you

993
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: and I talked about how we never went to like

994
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:18,320
Speaker 1: a sleepaway camp as kids.

995
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 2: Right, my only experience with camp was mild and terrifying.

996
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: I went to for a week every year in fifth grade,

997
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 2: fifth and sixth grade in my school. In my year

998
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: it was sixth grade, they split the class and half

999
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: of the class went in the summer and half of

1000
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 2: the class went in the winter. And we went to

1001
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: a place called a Choken, which I'm pretty sure was

1002
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: a children's work camp, and that we went to for

1003
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: a week and we made like fucking yeah, Like they're like,

1004
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 2: let's go and do some crafts. And I came home

1005
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: with a tin candle holder that I like banged out

1006
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 2: with a hammer.

1007
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: A broom.

1008
00:54:57,640 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 2: I made a broom. I had to make a broom

1009
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 2: with like actual like hay and sticks, wow and twine.

1010
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:05,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1011
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: And it was a terrifying experience and my only experience

1012
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: with any kind of camp. And once I got home,

1013
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: I was like, thank God, we're poor and you can't

1014
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: send me to these for more time.

1015
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely think I think the primary reason I

1016
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: did not go to a sleep away camp in the

1017
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: summer is because it was too expensive I did. I

1018
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 1: mean I went for like camping weekends with the Girl Scouts.

1019
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 1: But what I think traditionally with this film suggests and

1020
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: like what I think maybe the experiences that the writers

1021
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 1: and directors of the film had were these multi week

1022
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: summer camps where you basically just got sent there at

1023
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: the beginning of the summer and then you came back

1024
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: at the end, which seems insane to me. Like I

1025
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: kept thinking about, like how would I be if I

1026
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: had to go to like a two month.

1027
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: Somp, Like I would come back ferreal, Yeah, absolutely feral. Actually,

1028
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: my grandmother and my great aunt used to go to

1029
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:11,359
Speaker 2: a camp when they were kids, and it was kind

1030
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 2: of it was an early iteration of like the City

1031
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 2: Kids program where they would send kids from Harlem to

1032
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 2: this camp. And my grandparents had a lot of My

1033
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: grandmother had a lot of relatives that lived in Virginia,

1034
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 2: and so she would spend part of her summer at

1035
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 2: this sleep away camp and then the rest of her

1036
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 2: summer on this farm in Virginia. And I have a

1037
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 2: bunch of the postcards that she and my great aunt

1038
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 2: used to send home from camp, and my great aunt,

1039
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 2: who's like a year and a half older, was always like, oh,

1040
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: this is great, Like I'm making friends, everything's fine. And

1041
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,800
Speaker 2: then my grandmother, I am not kidding, every single postcard

1042
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 2: that she sent home was like, I can't believe you

1043
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: haven't sent me any candy. Like her, her whole summer

1044
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: experience was rocked by the fact that she could no

1045
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: longer just walk down to the bodega and get candy,

1046
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 2: and she could I believe her parents put her in

1047
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,720
Speaker 2: a place where she did not have access to candy.

1048
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that is what seemed so wild to me,

1049
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: is that it felt so removed from you know, you're

1050
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:16,360
Speaker 1: in the woods, You're like in Maine. I guess this

1051
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: camp was supposed to have been in Maine. Yeah, And

1052
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't know if I would I

1053
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: think socially, I don't know. I kept thinking about this

1054
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: in terms of social shit, and I was like, oh,

1055
00:57:28,760 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: I'd either be like the nerd who was hiding, you know,

1056
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,680
Speaker 1: in the bunk while everybody was out there in bathing

1057
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: suits because I was afraid to get in a bathing suit,

1058
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: or I'd be like the fucking Bobby buttnick of the

1059
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 1: thing where everybody thought I'd like killed someone and I'd

1060
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: be like smoking cigarettes with like a like a fucking

1061
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: blue jean vest. You know, everybody would either be scared

1062
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: of me or they'd make fun of me. I didn't feel.

1063
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I was like, there's no way I would have integrated

1064
00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: into this social show whatsoever.

1065
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 2: So absolutely not, absolutely not I would have. I would

1066
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: have floundered immediately and consistently in a sleepaway camp.

1067
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, I mean I think we can.

1068
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: I can confidently say about both of the people that

1069
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: watched over us. They would not pick us up. Like

1070
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: they'd be like, you're sitting there and they're putting up

1071
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 1: with it, and like, we're not picking you up. I

1072
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: don't care if you call every fucking day.

1073
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 2: They wouldn't even pick me up from a goddamn sleepover

1074
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: down the street if I was having a hard time

1075
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: falling asleep in someone else's house, So like, too bad

1076
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 2: you wanted to fucking go to Meg's house and have

1077
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 2: a goddamn sleepover. Exactly, this is the experience you're gonna have.

1078
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 2: Too bad. I'm like, you live two minutes away. Nope,

1079
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: They're already like playing cards with their friends. And getting drunk.

1080
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 2: They're not coming to get us.

1081
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they're like, we're liquored up. You're gonna have

1082
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: to take a cab. But uh yeah, I just it's

1083
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: so interesting. This movie obviously makes you think about camp

1084
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: because it takes place. The whole movie takes place in

1085
00:58:56,200 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: like one day essentially, and it's the last yeah, yes,

1086
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: the last day of camp in nineteen eighty one. And

1087
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 1: so this film I think most memorably is stacked with

1088
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: like famous people now, famous people who you know when

1089
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 1: they made the film, they weren't so famous, right, I

1090
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: mean it was kind of like I would say, almost

1091
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: like the dazed and confused of the early two thousands

1092
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: in that way. Right, So I'll just like read you

1093
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: off who's in this fucking film because it's stacked, right.

1094
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: So you've got like Janine Garoffalo. She she plays the

1095
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 1: kind of camp director. I you know what really hit me.

1096
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: I have to say sidebar about this film is maybe

1097
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: this is too much to bite it off right now,

1098
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna just bring it up because I have to.

1099
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: Oh shit, I hate how Janine Garoffalo was always type

1100
00:59:55,640 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: cast as like a frumpy, dowdy character because she is

1101
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: fucking beautiful and hot. And I was like, in her

1102
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 1: little hippie shirt and her jeans, she's hot as shit,

1103
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: Like why are we tripping about this? Like are we

1104
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: gonna just I know she's our gen X queen and

1105
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: I know that she's real, you know, but also she's

1106
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: attractive and hot, So can we stop this please?

1107
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,920
Speaker 2: And I think she's talked about this in some of

1108
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,320
Speaker 2: her more recent stand up but you know, even that

1109
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 2: movie The Truth About Cats and Dogs, where she was

1110
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 2: cast with Uma Thurman and was considered to be the dowdy, frumpy,

1111
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: ugly one, Yeah, and I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

1112
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 2: First of all, you put anyone next to Uma Thurman

1113
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: and they're instantly gonna look like hell comparatively, But you

1114
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 2: take Uma Thurman out of the picture, they're cute. And

1115
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 2: even next to Uma Thurman, she was adorable and funny

1116
01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 2: and smart and cool, and every role that I saw

1117
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: her in the nineties, I thought the same exact thing,

1118
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 2: where I'm like, why are you making this incredible woman

1119
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 2: into this undesirable kind of chunk? Yeah, when she's nothing

1120
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: like She's was not like that to us. We didn't

1121
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: see her that way.

1122
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 1: No, And it's like, she's so cute in this film.

1123
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying she like I think she's cute

1124
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: and gets to be the camp director. Like I'm just

1125
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: sort of like, don't make those things mutually exclusive, do.

1126
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?

1127
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: Like anyway, So that was my immediate thought, justice for

1128
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: this for this character. But she's the camp director. She's

1129
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: in love with a scientist who was played by David

1130
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:49,920
Speaker 1: Hyde Pierce, and I have to say he might be

1131
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: my hobby of the film. I don't know what it is.

1132
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I kind of love this like mustachioed,

1133
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: thick glass glasses with the tiny little shorts. I'm like,

1134
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm feeling David Hyde Pierce in this movie.

1135
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 2: That is unsurprising to me, because, as you know, I

1136
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: don't like muscles, and so in a movie where Ken

1137
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 2: Marino is running around in short shorts, the fact that

1138
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 2: you're like David Hyde Pierce though not surprising to me

1139
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 2: at all. Oh yeah, feel me same way. And he's

1140
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 2: so fucking funny in this movie.

1141
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I talked about fred Ward being the

1142
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: HAUGHTI and tremors for me. Now I'm like fuck Paul Rudd.

1143
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: I'm like David Hyde peers hello. Like again it sexy

1144
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:40,439
Speaker 1: legs on David Hyde peers ah, but you so, then

1145
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: you know you've got the kind of everyman character whose

1146
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 1: name is Coop. He's played by Michael Showalter. He's in

1147
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 1: love with this woman, Katie, who is probably the manic

1148
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,680
Speaker 1: pixie dream girl of the film, I guess for lack

1149
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: of a better way to describe her.

1150
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: Uh.

1151
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: But then Katie is invariably in love with this guy

1152
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: named Andy, who is played by Paul Rudd. He has

1153
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: a straight up psychopath.

1154
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 2: This is my favorite Paul Rudd character period. When he

1155
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: at one point he grabs the pole in the lunch

1156
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 2: room and swings around and just gives her his own

1157
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: girlfriend the finger. It is like, I don't know why

1158
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: he is such the quintessential eighty shithead in this movie,

1159
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 2: but he is so fucking funny. There's a point where

1160
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: he drops his tray and Beth makes him pick it

1161
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 2: up and he's like it just has a tantrum like

1162
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 2: a child. Paul Rudd is actually funny. He is hot

1163
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 2: and funny. He's one guy who can do it.

1164
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: I absolutely agree he like and his character is an

1165
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: exaggeration of an actual type of fucking teenage boy completely

1166
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: I experienced when I was growing up. Who is the

1167
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: guy that's like saying, fuck you, bitch and then five

1168
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,040
Speaker 1: seconds later it's like, I love you, call me later.

1169
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Like the fucking demon.

1170
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely unhinged, like no like no consistency whatsoever. And

1171
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: that was teenage boys in a nutshell. They were like

1172
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: punching you in the face and then being like I

1173
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 1: love you, let's.

1174
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 2: Go to prom And you're like what just emotionally erratic?

1175
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's he is definitely that that character. But

1176
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 1: then you have this other character who I believe is

1177
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 1: a absolute stock Molly Shannon character, who is Molly Shannon

1178
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: plays this like lonely, recently single woman who seeks comfort

1179
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: from like middle school kids.

1180
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 2: Basically like she's supposed to be teaching these kids and

1181
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: letting him the new arts and and they end up

1182
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 2: counseling her throughout the film.

1183
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: This is wild as fuck. This is maybe the wildest

1184
01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: like part of this film for me, about like the

1185
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: kid that gives her the back massage and then like

1186
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: she ends up marrying him.

1187
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: Would never pass, would never pass, But just the idea

1188
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: that they took it there is.

1189
01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 3: So so insane, but also so Molly Shannon, Like Mollly

1190
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 3: Shannon is like that to a t like let's just

1191
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 3: go that extra mile.

1192
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,479
Speaker 2: That's what I mean when I say, like, this movie

1193
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: goes off the rails in a way that you do

1194
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: not expect in so many ways.

1195
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 1: Yes, then you have who I think is probably the

1196
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 1: MVP of the film. And I think that attitude is

1197
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 1: a is a common one amongst people who love this film.

1198
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: But Christopher fucking Maloney plays this scary ass ex Vietnam cook.

1199
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:03,440
Speaker 2: Named Jean, playing completely against type. If you have only

1200
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 2: known him as Stabler, you are going to be rocked.

1201
01:06:06,360 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1202
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 2: He wears a crop top sweatshirt.

1203
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:13,760
Speaker 1: Yes, happy trail is fucking out there.

1204
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 2: Belly is out while he's cooking, belly is out, bandana

1205
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 2: is on.

1206
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: He believes that he can communicate with this can of vegetables.

1207
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 1: At one point he mounts a refrigerator and like starts

1208
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 1: humping it. I mean, it's like it is wild.

1209
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 2: Oh good.

1210
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: But a lot of people love his character in this film.

1211
01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: I would say, oh yeah, you also have Michael ian Black,

1212
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: who is also from the state. He plays his character McKinley.

1213
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: You know, he's the guy like everybody makes fun of

1214
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: for being a virgin and they're trying to get him laid,

1215
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 1: but little do they know he's actually gay and doesn't

1216
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 1: want to have sex with women.

1217
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 2: But they do show him fucking Bradley Cooper.

1218
01:06:56,160 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, an epic love scene between him and Bradley Cooper.

1219
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: And by the way, to that point, Bradley Cooper, this

1220
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: was his first film. He just graduated from like the

1221
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: actor studio when he made this movie. And him and

1222
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: Amy Poehler play these kind of like uptight, preppy wasps,

1223
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 1: I would say, and they're like really in a musical theater.

1224
01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Bradley Cooper is very like, even though I hate that

1225
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:30,160
Speaker 1: kind of ultra preppy, like I don't know, sort of

1226
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: like northeastern sailboat guy. Look, it looks great on him,

1227
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 1: and in this movie he looked great.

1228
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, he pulls it off. He is very believable in

1229
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 2: this role.

1230
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, dude.

1231
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 2: And Amy Pohler is fucking hilarious. She is every theater

1232
01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: kid turned director. Yeah, just an absolute tyrant.

1233
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 1: I was watching there's a documentary that was made about

1234
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: the making of the film. I think it's called Hurricane

1235
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 1: of Fun. I actually found it on Vimeo. I guess

1236
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 1: David the director, he put it on his own Vimeo channel.

1237
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:06,160
Speaker 1: It's this like hour long documentary where they took all

1238
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: the behind the scenes footage of you know, making the film,

1239
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:13,360
Speaker 1: and they kind of edited it together. Essentially. One of

1240
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: the best things about that documentary is that they talk

1241
01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 1: about how this movie they the people who made this movie,

1242
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: the actors of the crew, actually lived at summer camp.

1243
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: Like they filmed it at an actual summer camp. They

1244
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: lived like campers. They all like stayed in bunks and

1245
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: shared bathrooms and wild camp dinner and stuff. But I

1246
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: think it was like part of why everybody looks like

1247
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: they're having a lot of fun in the movie is

1248
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: because they kind of lived it while they were filming it, right,

1249
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:47,720
Speaker 1: And there are scenes where Amy Poehler is like the

1250
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 1: camp sweetheart, or you're just watching her behind the scenes

1251
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: and she's like she's got her like early two thousands,

1252
01:08:54,360 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: like riot girl adjasent haircut, and she's so cute and

1253
01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 1: she's kind of bopping aroun and she's making everybody laugh

1254
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh, Amy Poehler is like comedy's sweetheart.

1255
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely and well deserved. She is truly funny, like

1256
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 2: just naturally and truly funny and just really is in

1257
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 2: it for the good time and for the joke. And

1258
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 2: there's one point in the film where she's playing the

1259
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 2: piano and she just turns around and starts playing it

1260
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 2: like with her hands behind her back. Just simple like

1261
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:28,719
Speaker 2: just simple things that she does that heighten every scene.

1262
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:32,799
Speaker 2: And it is just like an actual delight of a person.

1263
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: And I've met her a couple of times, and she

1264
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,640
Speaker 2: is truly that way in real life, Like she is

1265
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,559
Speaker 2: just a delightful person.

1266
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, she definitely seems that way for sure. And you

1267
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 1: know who else is in this movie a very very

1268
01:09:46,320 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: very early role. She doesn't really have a ton of lines,

1269
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: but Elizabeth Banks is in this movie, who like I

1270
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: read on her Wikipedia she's made like over two hundred things.

1271
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: I was like, holy shit.

1272
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,240
Speaker 1: She is still like pretty young, and she's made a

1273
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,919
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of TV and film and whatnot.

1274
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 1: So I was like, holy crap. But yeah, she was,

1275
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, she was in the film kind of one

1276
01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,240
Speaker 1: of these like camp hotties if you will, and like.

1277
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's also the addition of these these actors who

1278
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: again were not famous at the at that point in time,

1279
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 2: but you start to see a glimmer of who they

1280
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 2: were going to be. That made it something special and

1281
01:10:23,400 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 2: also really took it out of the world of the

1282
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,719
Speaker 2: state for me, because so many people from the state

1283
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 2: were not in this movie. So Carrie Kenny Silver was

1284
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,360
Speaker 2: not in this movie, and Michael Patrick jan and like,

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Speaker 2: there are a bunch of people who were so and

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Speaker 2: you know, Kevin Allison, people who were in the state.

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Speaker 2: Because they had eleven people in that group who were

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Speaker 2: not in this movie. So they were kind of clearly

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Speaker 2: trying to take their brand of humor but turn it

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Speaker 2: into something else. And I think that the addition of

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Speaker 2: these you know, other actors kind of helped round that

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Speaker 2: out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I mean Pepper and you do have like

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Speaker 1: Ken Marino and Joel la Truglia, like people who were

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Speaker 1: in the state. But yeah, you're right, it wasn't like

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Speaker 1: an absolute like all the all the men were in

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Speaker 1: the film in some way type of thing.

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Speaker 2: Also, I have to say I forgot to say this

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Speaker 2: about Andy, the Paul Read character. My favorite running joke

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Speaker 2: for that character is that he just lets a bunch

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Speaker 2: of kids die because he's he's too busy making out,

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Speaker 2: too busy making out.

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Speaker 1: Well, And like, this is the chief observation that I

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Speaker 1: had rewatching the film is that there are actual kids

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Speaker 1: in this movie alongside these like like, it's so funny

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Speaker 1: to me to think that all these like little kid

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Speaker 1: extras are in this like extremely horny sendup of like

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Speaker 1: an eighties camp movie.

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Speaker 2: I want that behind the scenes, like what was your

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Speaker 2: experience filming and living with these fucking weirdos?

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Speaker 1: Like did they go to the premiere or something? And

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Speaker 1: then like all of a sudden, it's like, oh, look,

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Speaker 1: it's the Bradley Cooper Michael Ian Black sex scene. And

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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I was in this movie.

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Speaker 2: Were they even allowed to watch the movie they were in?

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Speaker 1: That's what I was saying. I said, they probably weren't

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Speaker 1: even able to wash it until much later, And they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I was in this movie. Crazy. That is so fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 2: And the kids are also very funny, Like there's this

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Speaker 2: one kid who runs the radio show quote unquote, even

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Speaker 2: though eventually realize that everything's unplugged and he's just been

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Speaker 2: sitting in a room talking to himself all summer and

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Speaker 2: they are trying to force him to take a shower

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Speaker 2: because he hasn't taken a shower all summer. He's hilarious,

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Speaker 2: And again, that's kind of a nod like David Wayne

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Speaker 2: had a big broadcast radio part of his childhood, so

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Speaker 2: it's kind of a nod to their own personal lives

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Speaker 2: and it's just so funny. But the kids and themselves

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Speaker 2: were hilarious. There's this one. There's a scene when you

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01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,799
Speaker 2: first meet Coop and all the kids in his bunk

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Speaker 2: wake him up by like singing is it jukebox hero?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it. Yeah, but they're like escalating the

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01:12:53,080 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 2: sound and they're like just and just waking up to

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01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 2: these fucking children just going ape at seven o'clock in

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Speaker 2: the morning. Seems like what Camp probably was like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh absolutely. And like something else that I thought

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01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: was pretty true to life too about this movie was

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Speaker 1: that so the general gist of the movie, like, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to kind of, like I said, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: kind of talk about the plot because one thing I

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: will say that I feel like it's something now that

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01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,360
Speaker 1: I actually appreciate, which I thought was a negative back

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01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and one, which is that it's not

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,360
Speaker 1: like this completely linear storyline all the time in this movie.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of just bopping around with all the different characters, right.

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Speaker 1: And I read that David Wade and Michael Showalter wanted

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01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: the movie to feel a little like Robert Altman's Nashville

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01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 1: in that way, which when I know, it's hilarious to

1351
01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: think that those two movies could be like stylistically linked

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01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 1: in some way, but I see it. Actually when I

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 1: saw this film again, like I was like, oh, maybe

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01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:55,560
Speaker 1: I didn't get that in two thousand and one, I

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 1: didn't understand, Like I thought the pacing was off, and

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01:13:58,479 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what it is about

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01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:03,280
Speaker 1: this movie. But then knowing that, I'm like, Okay, Like

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01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,720
Speaker 1: now that makes sense. There's a lot of characters and

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01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: you gotta kind of go down their little roads separately. Yeah,

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01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,280
Speaker 1: but I will say I think the one thing the

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01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: movie does is that it kind of crescendos to this

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: talent show. So the end of end of camp talent

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01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: show that is hosted by my favorite character in this movie,

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: who was this old borsch Bell comedian named Alan Shemper.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:36,800
Speaker 1: Alan Shepper is played by Michael Showalter and he was

1367
01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: at camp so long ago? What was the Stone age? No,

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01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: it was the Ice age that that character is so good,

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01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:49,679
Speaker 1: and it is not he's not in the film very long,

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01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: but just the idea that he would be the MC.

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Speaker 1: And then like you see all everybody in the credit

1372
01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:00,559
Speaker 1: like he'll he'll tell his like really bad jokes and

1373
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: then everybody in the audience is like falling over themselves laughing,

1374
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: which cracks me up.

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01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 2: There's one point, there's two things that I still to

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01:15:12,120 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 2: this day say to myself from that character, where at

1377
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,400
Speaker 2: one point he's like, I was in camp so long ago,

1378
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,880
Speaker 2: fucking Jesus Christ was there with me, and that at

1379
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: one point he introduces the talent portion for the kids

1380
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 2: and he's like, they're gonna be singing a song called

1381
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:35,719
Speaker 2: day by Day. I say not day by day, day

1382
01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 2: by day. And I just say that to myself all

1383
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 2: the time for no reason.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the aughts and thoughts and

1385
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 1: crafts line is really popular with people, and but uh yeah,

1386
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: so yeah, this, I mean, the whole thing about this

1387
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:56,519
Speaker 1: movie is it's goofy as shit, It's it's filthy. You

1388
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: get this sense though, that everybody's having a great time

1389
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: making it. I mean, like I said, I think when

1390
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: I first saw it, I thought it was a little odd.

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01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:11,600
Speaker 1: I thought the pacing was weird. But then the weirdest

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01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 1: part to me is that now, since then, I've watched

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01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:19,680
Speaker 1: so many of these kind of camp movies, and I

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01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 1: realized all of them are like this, Like all of

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01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 1: them are paced like this. Like actually, I will say

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01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: a lot of early eighties comedies have this pacing where

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Speaker 1: it's they have a lot of characters to follow. Each

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: one of them kind of has their own kind of

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: goofball moment. It's not like hot shots right where there's

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01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: like a joke a second, but I mean it's kind

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01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,439
Speaker 1: of like it's kind of like a caddy shack type

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01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: of experience where you're like, oh, like it's goofy, but

1403
01:16:51,439 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: each there's a lot of different storylines and it's not

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01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:59,040
Speaker 1: like completely like stacked in this like linear narrative structure.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: To me, I think being older, being more wise about film,

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01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:08,919
Speaker 1: and simply having seen more film made me like weirdly

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01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: reappreciate what hot American summer. And I don't know why

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01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,719
Speaker 1: that is, but it is that's cool.

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01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 2: I think it's a great again. We always encourage people

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01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: to go back and rewatch and whatever the situation is

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01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,720
Speaker 2: that has you rewatching, the movie sometimes influences what you

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01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 2: think about it. But I think it's cool that you

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01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: were able to take some different value from it this

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01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 2: time around.

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Speaker 1: I definitely agree. And I will say, for the record,

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01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: the most authentic thing in this film is that jug

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01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:42,439
Speaker 1: of sun tea on the porch. Ah My mom made

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01:17:42,520 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: the fuck Addison's sun tea in the eighties.

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01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 2: Man like that specific jug.

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01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that jug. I don't know if that was

1422
01:17:50,800 --> 01:17:54,240
Speaker 1: like a tupperware jug or where people got that jug.

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01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 2: Everyone had the jug, the fork and spoon on the

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01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:01,720
Speaker 2: wall and a wicker fan, and that was summer. And

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01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,280
Speaker 2: you just filled that thing with fucking lipt in tea bags.

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01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 2: No other kind of tea will do. It's lippt in

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01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: tea bags. Yeah, and just sit it outside for the months.

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01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,599
Speaker 1: You let that shit cook in the sun, and then

1429
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:19,880
Speaker 1: three months later you might have a glass of iced tea.

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01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: The most inefficient way to make a beverage ever.

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01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 2: I thought about making some sun tea this summer because

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01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 2: I get a real there's a spot on my porch

1433
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:35,880
Speaker 2: upstairs that get so much sun. It's so bright and

1434
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:40,559
Speaker 2: hot up there. And then I realize two things. One,

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01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: if I set out a jug of sun tea and

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01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 2: it's not in that jug, will it really be sun

1437
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: tea exactly. Also, I could just go and buy iced tea.

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01:18:50,960 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Now, I I am currently googling the origins of sun Tea.

1439
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:04,439
Speaker 1: I won't do the actual research on it right now

1440
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 1: on Mike. I'll spend spend the rest of the weekend

1441
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: reading about it, but I will say this, I think

1442
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,640
Speaker 1: we should offer sun Tea jugs on our merch show.

1443
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: What Look, I'm here for it, everyone. Look, sun Tea

1444
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 2: had everyone in a fucking chunk choke hold in the eighties,

1445
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 2: and it's time to bring it back. I'll make sunty

1446
01:19:27,320 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: if we can do it in and I saw what

1447
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: you did jug.

1448
01:19:29,720 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, We're gonna have to fire off some

1449
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:33,960
Speaker 1: emails after we stop recording.

1450
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,639
Speaker 2: Everyone is gonna be like, let's listen to this episode

1451
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 2: and see what these fucking idiots are talking about.

1452
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:49,680
Speaker 1: Listen so to that end, if you want to buy

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01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 1: I saw what you did sun Tea jug. To make

1454
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,080
Speaker 1: sun Tea, just email us and I saw what you

1455
01:19:56,120 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: did Gmail dot com. If we get enough support, maybe

1456
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: we can actually make it.

1457
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: I think. Actually, don't email us. We'll put up a pole.

1458
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 2: Check check Instagram this week. We'll put up a pole

1459
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 2: tomorrow and tell us if you want the sun tea jug.

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01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:21,960
Speaker 1: Holy shit, I that would probably be a highlight for

1461
01:20:22,080 --> 01:20:26,559
Speaker 1: my life. Is that world that'll actually happened? But look,

1462
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: we're having fun on these episodes. The hot trade keeps

1463
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: moving in the meantime. If you want to email us,

1464
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: just generally, we are at I Saw what you Did

1465
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: pot at gmail dot com.

1466
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 2: And you can find us on our social media at

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01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: I Saw Pot on Instagram and Twitter, and if you

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01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:47,719
Speaker 2: click on our Instagram link tree, you will also still

1469
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,720
Speaker 2: see the po box address. If you want to send

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01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:52,599
Speaker 2: us handwritten letters, A lot of people might be at

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 2: camp right now listening to this episode. If you want

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01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 2: to send us a letter from camp, go for it.

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I would absolutely love a camp letter.

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01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: You could tell us if you want to, that you

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01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:08,960
Speaker 1: paid it and want to come home. I'm not sure

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 1: we can come pick you up, but well you can tell.

1477
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,920
Speaker 1: You can tell us that you've been smoking marijuana. We

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01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: won't tell your mom and dad.

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01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 2: We'll send you candy at least if we can. It's allowed.

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01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 2: If you're allowed to receive mail, will send candy right.

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01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 1: Well, we do have merch on that note, it is

1482
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: in the I Saw What You Did section of the

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01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 1: Exactly Right shop.

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01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 2: And our bonus episodes are coming out fast and furious.

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01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: The old episodes are being posted every week or two

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01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 2: on the main feed and so you don't even have

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01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 2: to they're not behind it pay Well anymore. You don't

1488
01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 2: have to do anything except look out for them. And

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Speaker 2: then our new bonus episodes are every Thursday, every third

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Speaker 2: Thursday of the month.

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Speaker 1: Perfect. Now, next week's movies, I would say, are not

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01:21:58,479 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: just hot, but they are moldering.

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01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: Ooh, tell them what the movies are.

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01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: The movies for next week are Some Like It Hot

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01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: from nineteen fifty nine and The Long Hot Summer from

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: sun tea right now, absolutely, and hope that the squirrels

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Speaker 2: in my house don't just carry the fucking container off

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Speaker 2: into the woods. Like Thanks for the t diitch peace, Damielle.

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Speaker 1: It is always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 1: Bye. Ya suck us.

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Speaker 2: This has been an exactly right production. Produced by Casey O'Brien,

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Speaker 2: mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is by Tom

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Speaker 2: bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are

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Speaker 2: Georgia Hartstart Caring kil Garreff, and Daniel Kramer. You can

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Speaker 2: follow us on in Instagram and Twitter at I Saw pod,

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Speaker 2: and you can email us at I Saw What You

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Speaker 2: Did Pod at gmail