1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,760 Speaker 1: I miss the green. 2 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 2: For example, I'm already upset. When I find my ball 3 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: in the bunker, I'm really upset. 4 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:06,359 Speaker 3: And when I find my ball. 5 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: In a brid egg Friday Egg, the dreaded Frida Egg 6 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: Friday Frida Bride Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run. 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: Off of the course. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to 8 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 3: another edition of the FRIDAYGG Podcast. Today, Kyle, Nathan and 9 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 3: I are joined by Michael Weaver, former All American at 10 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 3: cal U s M runner up Walker Cupper and currently 11 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: playing on the web dot Com Tour. Michael, welcome on. 12 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, thanks for having me. Guys, got to do it. 13 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Michael, thanks for being here. I guess we'll 14 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 2: get started right away. I read some interesting stuff about you, 15 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: and one of my favorite tidbits was that you were 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 2: an elite level go kart racer. Yeah, so tell me 17 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: about that, and then what made you get into golf? 18 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So, my dad's always been into racing and I 19 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 1: started down on six. My my dad was probably a 20 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: little bit crazy. Uh, one day just started driving go karts. 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: We had some friends that did that, and I really 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: liked it. Kind of was okay, I had to start 23 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: and then you couldn't race. Excuse me, couldn't start racing 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 1: until you're eight. So for like two years I just 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: practiced basically and got kind of good at it, and 26 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: then raced kind of all over California, and yeah, I was. 27 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: I was really into it. It was. It was a 28 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of fun. I mean, you can imagine. It was 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: racing go karts that probably went about like fifty five 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: or sixty and it's a bunch of like second third kids. Yeah, 31 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: so it was. It was pretty serious. I think some 32 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: of my parents' friends probably thought my dad was out 33 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: of his mind, and but no, I was really competitive. 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: But that I did that until I was about twelve. 35 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: I started playing golf when I was tense. I had 36 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: a little bit of overlap. I was racing and playing golf, 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: and eventually kind of my dad pointed out to me 38 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: that I hadn't raced at one point in like six 39 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: months or a year I think it was, and that 40 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I kind of needed to pick one or the other 41 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: because if we were going to keep racing, I needed 42 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,679 Speaker 1: to be committed to that, and if not, like that 43 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: stuff was he wanted to get rid of the racing stuff, 44 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: and if I wasn't going to do it, because it 45 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 1: seemed at that point I was pretty pretty set on 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: playing golf. I started starting I was ten, just played 47 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: for like a year, then started playing tournaments, and think 48 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: when I was eleven and summer, summertime became, you know, 49 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: three tournaments a week, like a one day or here, 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: a two day or there, all throughout northern California. So 51 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: racing kind of took a back seat, and I stopped 52 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: doing that, yeah, when I was twelve, and since then 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: just been playing golf. But I'm still still pretty interested 54 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: in racing in general, like the Formula one. My dad 55 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: still races as like a hobby, as an open wheale 56 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: race car. I've driven a few times. It's it's a blast. 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,559 Speaker 1: It's way more fun than golf. I'm not gonna idea. 58 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: He's from racing or golf. 59 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: I was pretty lucky. Never racing go cars is pretty 60 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: common they'd flip, and I never that never happened to me, 61 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 1: so I'd never got hurt doing that, fortunately, And I've 62 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: kind of had pretty good luck with golf too. I've 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: never knock on wood, never, never really had a serious injury. 64 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember a time where I've missed playing 65 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: golf for more than really at all. There's been maybe 66 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: something here there that's kind of bothered me, But I 67 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think I could directly attribute that to playing golf 68 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: or working out related to golf. So I've been been 69 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: pretty fortunate to been playing for I guess sixteen years now. 70 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: You hear about guys periodically, you know, their backs, bothering them, 71 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: risked whatever. I have been pretty fortunate. I have to 72 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: deal with that. 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: So what are worse racing parents or golf parents? 74 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: Oh Man, Probably racing parents because they have a bit 75 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: of a temper. Golf parents are just crazy, you know 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: they might they might kind of like snap at their kid. 77 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: But like racing, he se some pretty like redneck stuff, 78 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: like people literally lost their mind. It was. It was 79 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: pretty embarrassing for the kids. I'm sure you know it 80 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: was like the little It was equivalent to like the 81 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: Little League, dad. But I don't think you see that 82 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: as much in golf, just because it's more you know, 83 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 1: you're competing against everyone else, but less so than in racing, 84 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: I guess. And you can kind of directly attribute your 85 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: bad play to yourself and golf wers. If someone makes 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: a bonehead move. Racing, you could point the finger at them, 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, with some certainty, so you'd see it occasionally. 88 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: You know, people get pretty pissed, but not you don't 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: see that in golf. 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you could be like a you could 91 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 3: drive like a jackass and like block people out and 92 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: stuff like that. 93 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 94 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 3: So in terms of growing up, you grew up in 95 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: Fresno and there's like a stable of talented golfers that 96 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: have come from there, like Watney and Yea, Chapel, Bryson, 97 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: you you know, what is it about Fresno. 98 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of funny. I was talking with this, 99 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: talking about this with someone recently. You know, you have 100 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: the guys you mentioned, plus Derek Ernst as well. You know, 101 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: Derek's a year older than me. Bryson is three years 102 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: younger than me. So I played played quite a bit 103 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: with Derek growing up, played a little bit with Bryson, 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: but we're at a big enough age gap to like 105 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: high school golf, we're all in the same league and 106 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: we would. I'd play with Bryson pretty regularly, but I 107 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: was was kind of a big age difference then. I 108 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: wasn't real close with them, but no, we've I don't 109 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: know what to attribute that to. It's kind of strange 110 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: because Kevin Chappel and I grew up playing the same 111 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: golf course. Bryson and Derek grew up playing the same 112 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: a different course, but the same one as each other. Obviously, 113 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: Watney has had a good career. I don't I don't 114 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: know if it's just like a fluky thing. That's kind 115 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: of When I was talking to a friend about this, 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: I said, it just seems like a like a fluke deal. 117 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: Like my high school team, even we had four or 118 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: five guys played Division one golf as well at you 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: know various you know, myself and one other guy both 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: went to cal Pace Johnson, and then a couple other 121 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: guys played like Cal Pauly Soccramento State. I guess that'd 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: be it, But no, it's just kind of one of 123 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe one of those things. It's more coincidence than anything. 124 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: I can't say, Oh, it's because we have all these 125 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: great courses or facilities or whatever we can play with 126 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: golf year around. But that's true for anywhere in California. 127 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember at Paul Golido Sound and he grew 128 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: up playing this Muni and Long Beach that like Patrick 129 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: Cantley and a bunch of other tour pros of all 130 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: grown up playing, which is is kind of crazy how 131 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 3: like sometimes they all everybody comes from like one course. 132 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that. Where like with our team 133 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: at Cal, like when you have a bunch of good 134 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: players all together, everyone's very competitive. I know growing up, 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: all of us were pretty competitive against each other, So 136 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: maybe that has something to do with it. I could 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: when you're it's better, it's better to be surrounded by 138 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 1: people kind of you know, similar ability there. You know, 139 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: all of us are trying to get to say college 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: golf at that point, and pushed each other and we 141 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: all wanted to be each other. So I'm sure that 142 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: that counts for something. But you know, beyond that, you know, 143 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: and professional golf to have, I guess it'd be five 144 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: or six guys. You know, Watney's from Sacramento but went 145 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: to President State and then myself, Bryce and Derek and Kevin, 146 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: all four of us either you know right or kind 147 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: on the web. The two others on the PGA tourrets. Yeah, 148 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: it just kind of got an anomaly more than anything. 149 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 2: Probably, So you mentioned your team at CAL, which was loaded. 150 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys had hey, he Michael Kim, Max 151 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: Homo yourself. What do you think you guys did at 152 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 2: CAL to prepare your guy, prepare yourself so well to 153 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 2: play professionally. 154 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: I think kind of what I was talking about, the 155 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: competition we were. We were all very competitive. None of 156 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: us like to lose to one another. We would I 157 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: mean we had this we had this this practice facility 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: at CAL. Uh got a course called Metropolitan Golf Links 159 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: and uh like Oakland, San leandera right next to the 160 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Oakland Airport, and we had this huge shorting facility there. 161 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: And there would be days where like nobody really wanted 162 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to go practice, but like Michael Kim and I for example, 163 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: would say play for you know, trying to beat each other. 164 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 1: And that was that was that happened literally every day. 165 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: Get It's like we'd go hit balls for like an 166 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: hour and then have a two or three hour up 167 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: and down contest. There are several contests within a two 168 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: or three hour period. I think that's just kind of 169 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: that element where we were everyone wanted to beat each other, 170 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: we all hated to lose to each other, and that 171 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: that I think that was worth a lot because I know, say, 172 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: like my recruiting class was myself, Max and Brandon, and 173 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: I think that I for each of us, Cal wasn't 174 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: necessarily our first choice going into the recruiting process. You know, 175 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: you have all these schools you're looking at, Like it 176 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: wasn't like it was Cal or then the other things 177 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: everything else to be settling, like we I know, I 178 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: was interested in saying the UCLA, Stanford like all the 179 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: big schools in California, And I know Haye was kind 180 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: of the same way with I think USC and Max's 181 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of the same boat as us. There's both of 182 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: us as well, Like Cal was on the list, but 183 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't like with all those other programs at that 184 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: time were higher ranked than us. So it was kind 185 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: of common. You know, we all heard it, Max, Brandon 186 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: and I that from other coaches in the Pac twelve, 187 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: like they kind of overlooked our class. And then that 188 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a common thing with even with like 189 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: Michael Kim as well. It was all these guys who 190 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: might have been a little bit overlooked, Say Michael Kim 191 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: was overlood because he hit it short thin. Max brand 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: and I had not really like hit our stride yet 193 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: I guess you could say we had good junior careers 194 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: but not great, and then you know they certainly weren't 195 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: up to par with our collegiate careers. So I think 196 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: it was just, you know, we had a great group 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: of guys. We all got along really well, and we 198 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: were all really competitive, and everyone was willing to work 199 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: really hard. I mean we never had to. There was 200 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: never anybody on the team that, like you kind of 201 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: had to light a fire under him, Like everybody knew 202 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: where they wanted to be and believe that, you know, 203 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 1: we were working, we were doing all the right things 204 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: to you know, be a top ten or top five 205 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: team or the number one team in the country. 206 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: That's awesome and interesting, guys, I'll had kind of a 207 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: chip on your shoulder. 208 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be a good way to play it. Yeah, yeah, 209 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: that's awesome something to prove. 210 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: What what would you say in terms of making the 211 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 3: transition from college to pro golf, did you like overlook 212 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 3: that was like that spent that like maybe is tougher 213 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 3: than you would think, Like as an outsider. 214 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, this is something I took for granted in 215 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: college that I've just kind of started to realize in 216 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the last six months or so, is everybody say, like, 217 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you play a lot more in professional golf in college 218 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: golf and ice think, well, in college, I played thirteen 219 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: or fourteen tournaments in a school year, and then six 220 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: to eight tournaments during the summer, so playing you know, 221 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: twenty two, you know, say, twenty two events a year. 222 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: And then my buddy, one of my friend of mine 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: from cal who's a few years older, said well, I 224 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: played twenty five or twenty six professional events a year, 225 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: and I kind of looked at that, like, that's only 226 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: like a couple more, that's not that big of a difference. 227 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: But what you what I kind of overlooked was in college, 228 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: your events are four days at most, and you have 229 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: a travel day, practice around day thirty six, and then 230 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: eighteen whole day, and then you go home that night. 231 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Whereas professional event it's uh, you know, you say, you 232 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: fly on Sunday or Monday, you play practice on Monday. Tuesday, 233 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: you're either in the program or you're practicing on Wednesday, 234 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: and then you play four rounds and you do that's 235 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: like last year, I played thirty tournaments and that's thirty 236 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: weeks essentially, it's not you know, it's not thirty half 237 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: college tournaments, half amateur events where it's they're shorter. So 238 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: that was something that I think that's something that's overlooked 239 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: is people look at oh, it's you play pro golf, 240 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: like you get to go and go to all these 241 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: cool places. Which that's true. Sometimes I think if you 242 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: took an honest look at like the web dot Com schedule, 243 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: you wouldn't say like, I'm dying to go to Wichita, 244 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 1: Kansas and Omaha and Springfield and is or I mean 245 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: I've played. Yeah, it's like courses are good, the tournaments 246 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: are well run. But that's like people think that professional 247 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: golf you're going to all these cool destinations, you get 248 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: to do cool stuff. Well, like the reality is like 249 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to try to make time to go 250 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 1: to the Panama Canal this week because I've never been. 251 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 1: But most weeks like I'm not doing anything touristy. Maybe 252 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm just lazy about that or not. It's not that 253 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: important to me, I guess, but most weeks like there's 254 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: just not there's just not a whole lot of time 255 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: because you got to play your practice rounds and then 256 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: your practice and your workout and whatever else you have 257 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: to do to get ready to go on Thursday. I 258 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: think that's something that's so easily overlooked is the tournament. 259 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: It's four days, but you know, being ready to play 260 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: tournam involves a week, and you have to at the 261 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: level that if you're not, if you haven't won on 262 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: the PGA Tour. I guess the way I look at 263 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: it is you need to play pretty much every chance 264 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: you get because you can't really you can't really like 265 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: be complacent because it's so easy to if you're like 266 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: a rookie on tour, so it's not easy, it's so 267 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: difficult to get into events. You're kind of forced in 268 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: your rookie year to play the events you get into, 269 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: rather than you know, picking your schedule, which you kind 270 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: of have to take advantage of that then saying your 271 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: second or third year, once you move up in the 272 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: world ranking or if you win a tournament, then you're 273 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: then you can have that luxury. But I think that's 274 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: something that is probably the most overlooked, even for guys 275 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: who played golf necessarily in college. That says I'm saying, oh, 276 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to play more than two events in 277 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: a row in a row, and for an amateur schedule, 278 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: it's like during the summer, it's like you guys need 279 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: to kind of get used to playing four or five 280 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: in a row because you might have no status. Monday 281 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: into a Web event and top twenty five a few 282 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: of them, and then all of a sudden, like I 283 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: had to stretch this summer. I was planning on playing 284 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks on, a couple of weeks off 285 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: to that, and then like six six tournaments over like 286 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: a nine week stretch, and the week said off, I'm 287 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: did into a Web event and combined them into nine 288 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: straight weeks, and that you know, after nine weeks, I 289 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: was sick of playing golf. But that's kind of the 290 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: nature of it. You know, you you get you have 291 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: to you kind of have to go and you're hot 292 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: and keep going. 293 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: And that's speaking of playing a lot of golf in 294 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 2: a small amount of time. Obviously, you had a great 295 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,520 Speaker 2: run at the USAM at Cherry Hills. Talk to us 296 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: a little bit about that. 297 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that was kind of a surprise. 298 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: More than anything I knew I had been playing. I 299 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: knew like my game was going in the right direction. 300 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I was improving, you know, I was working hard, but 301 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: I was kind of having a bad summer before that. 302 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: I had remember I played really poorly at the Western 303 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: at north Shore, I believe like two weeks before, and 304 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 1: I was pissed at how I played, and I was like, 305 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I went home and practiced a lot. It's like I 306 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: hadn't really done anything to redeeming that summer, I felt like. 307 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: So I feared out hopefully and I'd qualify for the AM. 308 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: That was really the only highlight, I guess, and I 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: think that was. That was my second us M. I 310 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: played at Aaron Hills the year before. I missed the 311 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: Cup by one there, missed the playoff I won, so 312 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: I kind of like fired up to go to the AM. 313 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about Cherry Ells in particular, rather 314 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: than it was at altitude in Denver. I mean I 315 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: knew about, you know, the like Arnold Palmer playing there 316 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: and that I'm not like not a huge like golf 317 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: like history junkie. So that was that was about it. 318 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: And yeah, I uh so I played common played Cherry 319 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: Hills first, then played common Ground and I made like 320 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: a double or a triple on my tenth hole at 321 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: common Ground. I remember, and it was kind of I 322 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: knew that I was probably outside of the cut line. 323 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: And I want to say Birdie, like three of my 324 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: last seven or eight got into the playoff, which was 325 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: seventeen for fourteen bogie the first playoff. All went on 326 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: the next one and then part of that and Birdie 327 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: the twelfth hole at Cherry El's like a part three 328 00:16:55,360 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: over water. It's about two hundred or so to ten. Yeah. 329 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: Then I had quite the draw and matchplay. I felt 330 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: like I played a lot of guys who are doing 331 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: really well right now, so I was now looking back, 332 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool, kind of a cool thing 333 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: to think about. I played Zach Blair in the first round. 334 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 1: I think I won two and one. Played Albin No no No, 335 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: played Patrick Rodgers in the second round, beat him and 336 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: two up. I played Alvin Troy in the third round, 337 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: and I never led that. I was trailing all day 338 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: one to eighteen to get to a playoff, and then 339 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: got up and down in a bunker. I was from 340 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: a bunker on one for Berdie to win, so I 341 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: was kind of dirty. I felt like I stole that 342 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:43,679 Speaker 1: one and then quarters I played Ricardo Govea plays on 343 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: European Tour now semis. I played Justin Thomas and then 344 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: lost to Stephen Box on the thirty seventh hole. But 345 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: all in all, in that it was like a it 346 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: was a sick week. I mean, I had my dad 347 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: caddy for me. We had a blast. It was obviously 348 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: a really cool experience for my dad and I have 349 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: shared together. He he'd carry from me periodically and just 350 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: for me. And knowing that I was in the Masters 351 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: in the US Open the following year was a pretty 352 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: incredible feeling. 353 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: What was it like to play in the Masters in 354 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 2: the US Open? 355 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, So the Masters, I was really nervous, really excited. Obviously. 356 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: It was it was, you know, everything I expected and more. 357 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the course was, you know, incredible. I went 358 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: made two separate trips out to Augusta prior to the 359 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: week of the tournament. I went in January once and 360 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,479 Speaker 1: then I went in March. Yeah, so it was it 361 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: was like kind of everything I had expected and more. 362 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: I mean it was just I got to play ten 363 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: rounds or so prior to the tournament week. One of those. 364 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler was there one day, so I got to 365 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: play eighteen holes with them, which that was actually pretty 366 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: helpful because I kind of got the like the wow 367 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: factor or whatever you want to call it, like shock 368 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: and awe of playing with a big name player out 369 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 1: of the way before the practice rounds or the tournament started. 370 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: So uh. And then yeah, I played some played practice 371 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: on some pretty good guys. Played with Wattney and Luke 372 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: Donald one day, put up Duffner. Another day I played 373 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:19,199 Speaker 1: with Fuzzy Zeller for ninals, which was a hilarious. And 374 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: then I played the Part three contests with him as 375 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: well and Hubert Green, which was pretty cool. We got 376 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: put like I'll put on the clock. We got told 377 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: to stop signing stuff because we well fell about two 378 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: holes behind because Fuzzy did as a single person. And 379 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: then I played with McElroy that day as well for 380 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: nine holes and Robert Garagus. So no, I was, it 381 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: was it was incredible. Then the US Open that was 382 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: pretty cool. I was, it doesn't quite compare to the Masters, 383 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think part of that just because 384 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: it's so difficult to get into the Masters. Where was 385 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: the US Open? You can qualify for it every year. 386 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: It's obviously difficult, but it's much more attainable and uh 387 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 1: that was that was pretty cool experience there. Though I 388 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: made the cut there, I didn't play great on Saturday, 389 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 1: but I had my dad caddy for me there as well, 390 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: so that was also like another really cool experience like 391 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: finishing on Father's Day. Have my dad caddy for me 392 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: was definitely a something pretty cool that we could share together. 393 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: So no, I was Fortunately we got to play mary Into, 394 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: which was I thought a really cool course and it 395 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 1: was interesting playing the practice rounds there. Guys are saying 396 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: or sorry, TV was saying, this course will be easy, 397 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: it's short, whatever. I remember playing with Bill Haas and 398 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: Nick Watney and I was worried because I didn't think 399 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: the course was that easy. I asked Bill Haass, like, 400 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 1: what do you think about this course? And I was 401 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,479 Speaker 1: gonna be really concerned if he said, oh, I think 402 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: this is gonna be pretty easy. And he goes, I 403 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: don't know what the hell TV's talking about. You guys 404 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: haven't been out. I haven't played it, And sure enough 405 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: that proved me right. I mean one over one and 406 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: the cut was eight over par. It was it was 407 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: like a early two thousands the US Open. 408 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: So if you were building a course that that was 409 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: going to challenge like the professional player, how would you 410 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: build it to have a score? A winning score around. 411 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: Park probably have need to be kind of narrow, like 412 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,640 Speaker 1: that's sort of the thing off the tea longer off 413 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: off the tee, and then you wouldn't need longer like 414 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: little or no rough around the greens like but it 415 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,959 Speaker 1: needed you need stuff like Chambers Bay. I feel like 416 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: where it's just kind of all runs away from the greens, 417 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 1: you get way below the level of the greens. That's 418 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: like that's the hardest to tip out of rather than 419 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: if I'm in four inch rough like a foot off 420 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: the green or five feet off the green, even as 421 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: long as I'm not like really short sighted, it's not 422 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't usually get away from me too much there. 423 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: You don't get like you don't chip it up and 424 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: to roll back to you. That's I think that's something 425 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: that like a long rough that's like the difference between 426 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: like what amateurs like that just scares the heck out 427 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: of them because they can't put out of it. Whereas 428 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: if it's like you got a collection ay that's six 429 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: people below the edge of the green and it's really firm, 430 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: like that's just really tough, Like you can't hard to 431 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: get hard to hit high with spin. You can put 432 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: it up, I guess, but I've never really liked doing that. Yeah, 433 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there is kind of kind of 434 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: narrow off, too long rough that seems to be the uh, 435 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: the thing that keeps guys from getting too low, because 436 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, if you just bring the faraways in narrow enough. 437 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty much what they did at Marion. The rough 438 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: was long around the greens as well. But you know, 439 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: say if they had a bunch of runoffs, say like 440 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: a it was like a pinehurs around the greens, I 441 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: think it might have been tougher than just if you 442 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: run one through the green, ball stops pretty close to 443 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: the pin, you can kind of hack it out to 444 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: ten or fifteen feet hopefully and be fine. 445 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, always say like the worst thing for good players 446 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: to see is the ball like rolling away on like 447 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 3: approach shots, like the ball rolling in general, because when 448 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 3: it's in the air, you pretty much know how far 449 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: it's going to fly, how it's going to But then 450 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: if it rolls away, that's when I like, you know 451 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 3: you've lost control. 452 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you feel totally helpless. It's like you're well, ec 453 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: ball starts spinning back down a ridge, just like there's 454 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: like no worse feeling. 455 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 2: And did did you learn anything from your two major 456 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: championships you played in at Marion and Augusta that you 457 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: still use today? 458 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: Maybe more just like the confidence that i'd been there 459 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: to where if I'm back in that position, it'll be 460 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 1: familiar and that know that, Uh yeah, it's just something 461 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: I know I'd be more comfortable next time. Like this, 462 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: the difference from the Masters of the US Open, how 463 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: much more comfort I felt me I teed off the 464 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: first hit Masters like I had I hit my first 465 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: T shirt. I had no idea when I was so nervous, 466 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't have told you this sort of thing. And 467 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: then I started at the US OP when I wasn't 468 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 1: nearly as nervous. That was something that you just with anything, 469 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: the more you do it, the more comfortable you get. 470 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: So I think that was that was a big takeaway. 471 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 1: And obviously playing with I wanted to play with big 472 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: name guys just more curiosity than anything, see what their 473 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: game was like. And yeah, I mean I know that 474 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: guys hit bad shots and all that, but when you 475 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: watch on TV. You don't see that. So it was 476 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,479 Speaker 1: kind of cool to play practice around and see it. 477 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: Talk to some guys that I played with, see what 478 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: they did, and you realize that it's not it's not 479 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 1: like way different than what you're doing. They're just like 480 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: they're bad. It's just a little bit just better. Like 481 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: everyone can play. It's everyone can play really good golf. 482 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: It's just these guys aren't as bad when they're bad. 483 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: What's the area of your game that you've had to 484 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 3: work on the most since turning pro? Like maybe an 485 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: area that you didn't think was that that you didn't 486 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 3: think deemed a lot of work, but you've had to work. 487 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: On a lot, probably like distance wedges. That's something that 488 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: I've kind of starting, like middle of college, I started 489 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,879 Speaker 1: working more on I wasn't very good at at all 490 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: early on in college. So that's that's something that I 491 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: guess it kind of started the end of my college career. 492 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: But that's something I've been pretty diligent about because I 493 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: don't know, had it really far, but I hit above average, 494 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: i'd say, and you know, I have more more of 495 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: those opportunities, And you watch guys who and i'd play 496 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: with guys in mini tour events who like poof it, 497 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: hit it like two sixty five, two seventy, and we 498 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: play these sixty seven hundred yard courses and they would 499 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: just like rip it up. And that was something that 500 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: just like drove me freaking nuts. And because I felt 501 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: like I would take an advantage I had was being 502 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: taken away and being replaced was something I wasn't very 503 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: good at. So that was That's something that I I'm 504 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: probably the most diligent about practicing right now that my 505 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: coach and I are working on. 506 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 2: So you played in Latin America. Speaking of some of 507 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 2: the many tours you played on, do you have any 508 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: crazy Latin American tour stories? 509 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah? I do. It mostly involves other people doing funny stuff. 510 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: I mean I have one friend in particular who has played, 511 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: as far as I know, at least two rounds without 512 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 1: going to sleep. Yeah, went out one night, didn't go 513 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: to bed, showed up at the hotel. I remember I 514 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: was first off. This was in twenty fifteen, and they 515 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: did it again this past year. And let's see in 516 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen one. In twenty fifteen, it was really impressive. 517 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: We're playing this course in central Argentina, Cortaback Golf Club. 518 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: It's called it's kind of like Posit Tiampa but really narrow. 519 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 3: That's Cabrera's home course, right. 520 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So yeah, it's final round and it's boy 521 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: in like twenty all day. I'm like first off, so 522 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I kind of like luck out with the draw. It 523 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: wasn't that windy and I played. I played well. I 524 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: think there were I shot two hundred and like four 525 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: or five other guys did as well that day and 526 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 1: I was low score. My buddy went out with the 527 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,479 Speaker 1: guy I was rooming with that week, and the guy 528 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: I'm rooming with says, Hey, I'm going to crash in 529 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: someone else's hotel room tonight, so I don't wake you 530 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: up when I get back sick. Thanks, because in Argentina, 531 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: like you go to the bars like midnight or one. 532 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: You stay till the sun comes up, pretty much. And 533 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: I was teen off at like eight, so I leave 534 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 1: for the course. My roommate's not there, and you know, 535 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 1: I don't think anything of it, and he went out 536 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: with my friend who had like thirty They got even 537 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 1: thirty or eight o'clock in the morning and he had 538 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 1: to like grab his stuff and bolt to the course, 539 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: no warm up, nothing goes out. He and plays in 540 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: the wind, shoots like one over. I think that's probably 541 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: one of the best rounds I've ever seen. I didn't 542 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: see it, but like that, I heard about it. I 543 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: mean he was I'm pretty sure he was. He probably 544 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: wasn't hungover because he was probably still drunk when he 545 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: teed off. Right, he did that again, I can't remember where. 546 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh the Argentina Open, uh. 547 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 3: Man, yeahs is a little bit better than Cordova. 548 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I did it. Yeah, this about two months ago. 549 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: So oh wow. He apparently double hit his second double 550 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: hit a putt and still shot one under on the 551 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: first of all the world. But the guy I'm saying 552 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: with this week with room with him periodically, so he's laughing. 553 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: Let's see. Then, I don't know, it was just stuff 554 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: like that, and then there was always there was always 555 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: like some hustle, like some caddy was wanting more money, 556 00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: and there I think kind of the stuff, the stuff 557 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: of all players was just usually more interesting because you 558 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 1: got a bunch of guys like running around kind of 559 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: wild West. I mean, these are you kind of forget 560 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: their third world countries, and yeah, it's there was. I 561 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: was never I never felt like concerned, like safety wise, 562 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: but it was just something you had to be aware of. 563 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 3: What's uh, what's worse the caddies on the Latin America 564 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: Tour or the scorers in the Bahamas for the WEB event. 565 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: Oh man, the scores in the Bahamas, because at least 566 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: in the Latin events, like certain countries, you know you'll 567 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: get decent caddies, like in Argentina, Columbia, or like the 568 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: countries where they're were golf is actually popular in South America, 569 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: they will have decent caddies. They at least usually at 570 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: least nowhere to stand, which is the biggest part of it. 571 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: But I mean the people in uh, the scorers in 572 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: the Bahamas the last couple of weeks were outrageous. I mean, 573 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: I uh, the first round at Avoco, the second event, 574 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,239 Speaker 1: my group, this the roles official came up to us 575 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: on the twelve hole off on ten and it's none 576 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: of you guys made a whole in one on ten 577 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: right as part three the walking score, the walking scorer 578 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: put us all down for once and I made a 579 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: triple on the next toll should come down for a 580 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: thirty I wish but they. 581 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 2: Need those that crew travel to every web dot com event. 582 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of like a waste that they do, 583 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,479 Speaker 1: like because like in Latin America scoring we have, they 584 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: do just get to volunteer every three holes, I need 585 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: to tell them your score. And it was never that bad. 586 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: Like my parents would follow along and you know, my 587 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,719 Speaker 1: dad would say, oh, they had you for a bogie 588 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: on this hole, but you made a par or vice 589 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: versa like maybe following my around every they do three 590 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: hole scoring kind of like college, and that seemed to 591 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: work good enough, Like it was never you never had 592 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: anything too wild. But I mean the Bahamas is just 593 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: like I'm not really sure what the strategy is, but 594 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: it's clearly not working. I mean, they kind of doubled 595 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: down on it this year too. I remember last year 596 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: it was the same way. 597 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying on Twitter is like they just 598 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 3: need to suspend the live scoring down there, because I 599 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: remember I was tracking it last year and I was like, 600 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 3: my buddy was like they had him for like one 601 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: under and he was like in fifth place and then 602 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 3: he signed for like eighty four. 603 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, at the turn, they'd take our card and like 604 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: snap a picture with their phone, and I guess they'd 605 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: use that to put it into the computer. So I 606 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: think you would see guys scores correct at the turn. 607 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,160 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but yeah, I mean I think I saw 608 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: like Lee McCoy tweeted during one of the delays the 609 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: first the first week, it said something he was like 610 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: five over on the PJ Tour app because I'm one 611 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: under right now. It's like how, I just don't know 612 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: how I could get that far off, and like, yeah, 613 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: they're blowing it on par three's which it's just so simple, 614 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: like there's not even that much to keep track of. 615 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: Everybody shot ball, but yeah, it's it really made you question, 616 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: like what what was happening in these people's minds? 617 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 2: How did they get this job? 618 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: What? What was your favorite stop on the Latin America Tour. 619 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: I I liked Lima, Peru just because the course was 620 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: course was good, like good, not great, but it was 621 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: just the event was really well run. Lima is kind 622 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: of a cool city. Bogata is good in general, so 623 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: we usually put decent courses there. I know the golf 624 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,080 Speaker 1: courses in Argentina were good, but as something about I 625 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 1: just I was never really a huge fan of Argentina. 626 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 1: They dinner really late there. That was kind of a hassle. 627 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 1: You'd play at seven thirty in the morning and restaurants 628 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: opening like eight or nine km So probably yeah, Lima, Colombia, 629 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: those are good. You kind of got to stay in 630 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 1: the city. We're in Central America. You stay out in 631 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: these resorts you have, you're like stranded. It's you kind 632 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,959 Speaker 1: of just you're stuck. You can't really go out and 633 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: check anything out. I mean I was, I kind of cared. 634 00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I was more intertured like the other stuff, like at 635 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: least kind of see I looked at, you know, playing 636 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: in Latin America, going to I was going to a 637 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: bunch of places that I kind of figured I never would. 638 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: So it's kind of interesting to check it out. Especially 639 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: the first year round in twenty fifteen, like every every 640 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: week was kind of a like a new adventure, like 641 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: go check this place out, just see what it's like. 642 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: And the courses were just really hit and miss their 643 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: Central America. You'd have all these like huge resort courses 644 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: with lots of lakes and huge fairways and nothing special. 645 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: And then Argentina did have some good courses, but I 646 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: kind of Argentina was just kind of blowed to me. 647 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 2: What was the pace of play like out there? I 648 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,480 Speaker 2: know that, you know, golf Twitter had a breakdown last night. 649 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't see what happened, but I read about it. 650 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: Apparently it took JB Holmes four minutes to lay up, 651 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: and I don't even I'm not sure what happened with 652 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: Alex Norn, but apparently it affected him. 653 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 2: He had that second shot on eighteen, you know from 654 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: whatever it was too thirty and you know, obviously he 655 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: was going to go for it, and JB took the 656 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 2: four minutes to sit there and decide what he was doing. 657 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 2: So Norn was sitting there like, you know, the tournament 658 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: on the line, twiddling his thumbs. 659 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: But right, yeah, I totally I get that far I'd 660 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 1: be I would have told if I was in Alex 661 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: Orange shoes. I feel like I would have at some 662 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: point just ejected from the wait and told JB. I'm 663 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: hitting and I'm a bit impatient. So that would have 664 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,360 Speaker 1: driven me up the wall off for about a minute 665 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 1: and a half, especially if he has an iron out 666 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: laying up. Pace of play on Latin was usually pretty good. 667 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: They did a decent job of policing NFL, Like, I mean, 668 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: you know, there's some guys who are just like a 669 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: human rein delay that you knew going in, Like if 670 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:39,759 Speaker 1: you have to look for a ball or something, you're 671 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: probably gonna get put on the clock. But I don't know, 672 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I get the pace of play thing in 673 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: the pace of play down here or sorry. In Latin 674 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: America it was fine. I mean, they they put you 675 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 1: on the clock. But the way they police it in general, 676 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: I just think is it doesn't really they're not solving 677 00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: any problems. They're you get put on the clock and 678 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: everyone just speeds up. So if you get put on 679 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: the clock, I think it's ten times in a year 680 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 1: on whatever tour it is, you started to find the 681 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: fine start to find start at ten timings, whether you're 682 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: you get a bad time or not. If you get 683 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 1: put on the clock enough, you'll get fine. But the 684 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: fine at each level is like kind of it's kind 685 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: of a joke, like say it's not worth it's worth 686 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: paying the fine and not. And if it doesn't affect 687 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: you playing faster, you know, if you have to try 688 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: to speed up and it affects you, know you it 689 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: costs you a shot or two, like that's worth way 690 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: more because like I think in Latin they find you 691 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 1: like two hundred and fifty bucks. Web. I'm not sure 692 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 1: what it is on the web, but I know like 693 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: PGA tour, I think it's like ten grand, but you 694 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: know that ten comes what's that? 695 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: A SHOT's worth way more? 696 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Like you know, if I get put on 697 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:00,879 Speaker 1: the clock, I'm in this second to last group at 698 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 1: a tour event, like if they're gonna find me ten 699 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: grand like whatever, you know, that's right, Like one shot 700 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: could at that point is worth fifty to two hundred 701 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: thousand dollars depending one hundred word you are, you know, 702 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,720 Speaker 1: so until they start like actually penalizing guys with strokes 703 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 1: and if I don't know, I don't you know, I 704 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: don't know the answer to this. But you know, I 705 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: got put on the clock in the Bahamas, and I 706 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: know I'm not a really slow player, and everyone sped up, 707 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: so like even if I was playing with guys who 708 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,879 Speaker 1: were slow, everybody sped up, Like the rules of visual 709 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: didn't witness anyone playing slow. It's kind of like it 710 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: just it's a total waste of time. It seems like 711 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: that the way the way they're going about it. I 712 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: don't know how. I don't know how you improve it, 713 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: but I know that finding guys cash is not the 714 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: It's probably not the best incentive disincentive to make them 715 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: play faster, you know. I think we look at how 716 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,480 Speaker 1: well AJGA did timing. I mean you were like they 717 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: had still like the fear of God and the kids, 718 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: like if you got to got one red card, you 719 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: were you were hauling the next three or four holes 720 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,240 Speaker 1: like you never saw anybody got to get a penalty 721 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: and obviously couldn't find the kids, and penalty structure seemed 722 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: to work. I mean, we'd played a J. G Avins 723 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,959 Speaker 1: in four hours and ten minutes, and now we play 724 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: you know, I consider a four and a half hour 725 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: round in a tournament be pretty quick. 726 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I feel and am golf. I'm like, wow, 727 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 3: he played really fast day. I mean I look at 728 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 3: my like phone of the rounds four and a half hours. 729 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 3: So let's get uh, let's get out of here with 730 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 3: some uh, some fun questions, no more like you know, 731 00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,600 Speaker 3: pace of play. We'll do uh, we'll do one last 732 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 3: question and then we'll get into overrated underrated, all right, 733 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 3: So we talked about your Cal team earlier. If you 734 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 3: could take like one part of any of your teammates' games, 735 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 3: what would it be? 736 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't. It's toss up between Michael Kim's putting 737 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: and Hage's length. 738 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 3: I figured he's like two good things. 739 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh man, I'd probably take Hagy's length. I mean, 740 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: I I just Michael ken pots it really good. But hay, hey, hey, 741 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: he's a joke. I mean, I mean, my ball speed's 742 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: like one seventy five is just like one eighty seven 743 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 1: or something like. I'm like, i'd like i'd be top 744 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty percent in ball speed and he just twelve miles 745 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: an hour faster. Like that's that's a joke. 746 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 3: He murders it. Yeah, walked with him one day at 747 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 3: a web event in Chicago, and god, he kills the ball. 748 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: It's uh, it's crazy. All right, Let's say we'll do 749 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:56,080 Speaker 3: some overrated under ads overrated underrated Northern California, like for 750 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 3: golf or just in general. 751 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:05,839 Speaker 1: Uh, underrated only because Southern California is so overrated. 752 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 2: That's a good answer. 753 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: Well, California, it's underrated. 754 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: Let's go overrated underrated Panama, which you're. 755 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: There, now, oh man, probably underrated. Uh, I mean this 756 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 1: is like the perfect spring break stop. There's like you 757 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: can get yourself in all sorts of trouble. It's cheap, Yeah, 758 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: there's there's you could have all kinds of fun here. 759 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: And yeah that probably underrated. 760 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: We'll have to see on Saturday. Who misses the cut there? 761 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: Yeah it might. It'd be a be a good week 762 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: to be a fly on the wall for if guys. 763 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: That probably how about overrated? Underrated? The Crow's Nest? 764 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 1: Oh oh man, it's not over. 765 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 2: You don't want to get yourself in trouble. 766 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: Not underrated? Uh yeah, properly rated. I'll leave it that. 767 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: The political answer something something you have to do. But 768 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: when I was there, I stayed there a couple of nights. 769 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: I'll elaborate it doesn't matter. I mean I stayed there 770 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: a couple of nights and it was like I just 771 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: kind of hung out there, like I'm you know, I 772 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: like golf, Like I'm not like a huge the history 773 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,040 Speaker 1: part of it. To me, It's it's cool, but like 774 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't have the greatest appreciation for it, I guess, 775 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,840 Speaker 1: and I think it would have been I would have 776 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: I might have felt differently. Like when I was there, 777 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: the only guy that was staying there was the fourteen 778 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 1: year old kid, uh gone, and he was like doing 779 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,360 Speaker 1: homework the whole time we're there. So I was like 780 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: I was just like laid up on the couch watching 781 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: watching TV and like the thirteen inch TV they have 782 00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:04,240 Speaker 1: in there, like hanging out, my man and how we're there. 783 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: I was texting my friends like what do you guys 784 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: up to see? I was kind of bored. And I 785 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: was supposed to have for three nights. I ended up 786 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:12,720 Speaker 1: staying for two because like Stephen Box and TJ. Vogel 787 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,640 Speaker 1: and Nathan Smith were all staying there different nights, so 788 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: kind of like the camaraderie wasn't there, I guess you 789 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 1: could say, but I mean it was cool. Like don't 790 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 1: get me wrong, I I'm really good. You have to 791 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: do it. It's just that's part if you play as 792 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: an amateur, like that's you gotta do it. And I'm 793 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 1: glad I did. But I have a lot of people 794 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: asking about it, and I always tell him like, yeah, 795 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: it was cool, but I could say I did it, 796 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: but that's about. 797 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 3: It, all right. Last one, Max Helma's Twitter. 798 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 1: Game underrated, Uh his Twitter game is pretty good. He 799 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,799 Speaker 1: I I'll read what he says sometimes and think, oh 800 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: that was that was. He has some pretty strong takes 801 00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 1: at times, but he's pretty funny. That's one thing with Max. Like, gosh, 802 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: he had a good one about the Browns, the NFL 803 00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,640 Speaker 1: team a couple of weeks ago. Something someone equating the 804 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: NFL's ratings and Donald Trump and the Browns, and he's 805 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 1: saying Max is not into politics at all. He says, 806 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: whoever the guy was, is, I'm not a politics man. 807 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 1: But if we should watch it grounds a game on 808 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: TV and then think, after what you saw, would you 809 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: pay money to go watch the Browns? Because the picture was, 810 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, with all the political stuff for the NFL 811 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 1: stadium's empty, but the Browns at this point are like 812 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: oh and nine or oh to ten at least? Is 813 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,720 Speaker 1: would you go and pay to watch it? After watching 814 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: it on TV? It's like that one. That was probably 815 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: one of his best. I see it in a while. 816 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 1: I I got to kick out some of the stuff 817 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: he puts on there. 818 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,760 Speaker 3: I feel like he's at his best when he weighs 819 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 3: in on really random subjects. 820 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's really into pop culture, which I h I'm 821 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: not too well versed in so I some of it 822 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: I feel like I probably missed. But there's always some uh, 823 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 1: some off the wall thing that, like you say, it's 824 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: like an award show or whatever. Like he doesn't miss 825 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200 Speaker 1: a beat if he has a pretty it's a pretty 826 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: broad uh range of content on his Twitter account. 827 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 3: All right, awesome, Well, thanks for coming on and we'll 828 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,440 Speaker 3: look forward to uh seeing you play well this week 829 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480 Speaker 3: and this season on the web and hopefully up on 830 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:31,760 Speaker 3: PGA Tour. 831 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks, guys, thanks to win this week. 832 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,319 Speaker 2: That'd be pretty cool. 833 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: Huh yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, I will definitely be sleeping 834 00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,719 Speaker 1: before all of my rounds. All right, man, all right, 835 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 1: thanks guys, you've. 836 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 3: Been listening to the podcast. We do the digging for you.