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Speaker 1: Hey guys, and welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week I have someone on my podcast too, I

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Speaker 1: love very much, Dad. Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Gia. You're so pretty and I'm so happy

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Speaker 2: to be a dad. You're like the greatest daughter ever.

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Speaker 3: Oh thanks, Dad, I love you.

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Speaker 1: You've had such a fun month with so many visitors

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Speaker 1: coming to see you. You had your aunt, your cousin Malania,

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Speaker 1: and Gabriella, your sister came with all of her kids

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Speaker 1: and her husband.

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Speaker 3: You're just such a busy guy.

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Speaker 2: I know, very tiring. Last night I was so tired. Actually, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they went to Bahamar again. I had to tap out.

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Speaker 2: You just got to tap out sometimes.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you have been going for a while. Well,

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Speaker 3: Zianna got there, Audriana was with you for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: So Adriana just left Jess that I'm so sad.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people always wonder if I'm the closest

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Speaker 1: to you out of all of all of us, but

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Speaker 1: I feel like we're all close to you, and our

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Speaker 1: own way is I think just because I'm older, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously we have a different bond. But I feel like

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Speaker 1: you're close to all of us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I mean, I mean it took me

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Speaker 2: a little bit, like with Adriana, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: like when I got out and everything, because I was

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Speaker 2: away for a little bit. So she was like a

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Speaker 2: little you know at the beginning. But now she's like

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Speaker 2: totally fine. She's like so cute.

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Speaker 1: But well, yeah, because she was so young when he

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Speaker 1: was like, I went, yeah, she was six, So then,

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Speaker 1: you know, when as she was growing up, she didn't

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Speaker 1: have you, you know, there and present as she was

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Speaker 1: you know, becoming into beautiful young lady that she is now,

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Speaker 1: but she was you know, you could tell she always

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Speaker 1: missed that.

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Speaker 3: She always missed.

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Speaker 1: Having that father figure, and it obviously did take her

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Speaker 1: a little time because it was almost like she had

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Speaker 1: to get to know you all over. So but now

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Speaker 1: you know, she loves it. She was basically there with

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Speaker 1: you alone for this whole time until you know, the

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Speaker 1: family showed up. But she and she wanted that this time.

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Speaker 1: She really wanted that alone time with you and.

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Speaker 3: To just be with you.

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Speaker 1: So you could tell she always wants that and definitely

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Speaker 1: misses those moments.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she's so cute.

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Speaker 3: So let's start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about how you and Mom decided and agreed

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Speaker 1: on doing The Real Housewives in New Jersey.

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Speaker 3: What was that conversation?

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Speaker 2: Like I was during that time the Real Housewives. I

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Speaker 2: probably was renovating about one hundred and fifty units at

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Speaker 2: the time when I was renovating our home as well, right,

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Speaker 2: And what was only supposed to do be a simple

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Speaker 2: quick renovation because our home was actually pretty cool when

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Speaker 2: we first bought it, you know what I mean. It

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Speaker 2: was contemporary and actually we should have left it like that.

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Speaker 2: During that design and everything that we was going on,

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Speaker 2: she came up with this housewife stuf Right, So this

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Speaker 2: was many years ago, you know, So I was like,

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Speaker 2: what's the Housewives? Like? What is this? You know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? She's like because at the time, there was

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Speaker 2: only I think one housewife, which I think was Orange

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Speaker 2: County or something like that or whatever. It was only

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Speaker 2: one housewife, so it wasn't very popular, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. It wasn't like everybody knew about it or anything.

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Speaker 3: It was like Orange County in New York.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, I mean, I don't remember exactly

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Speaker 2: who was whatever, But it wasn't like a big thing,

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Speaker 2: you know what. I mean, so I didn't know about it.

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Speaker 2: So basically she was like and he you know, they

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Speaker 2: came in, well just do this interview with them and whatever.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, for what, you know, They're like, just do

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Speaker 2: the interview. Let's just do the interview, right whatever. So

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Speaker 2: I had to go to the house, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, while she was there, and I think that

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they showed it or not, but

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Speaker 2: they you know, when she was at the top of

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Speaker 2: was under construction, So I don't know if they showed

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Speaker 2: that part or not. But this is when they were

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Speaker 2: interviewing us, and I said, I forgot what they asked me.

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Speaker 2: They asked me something, and I said, well, listen, if

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Speaker 2: we make it through this construction phase here and me

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Speaker 2: and my ex are still together or she's still alive,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be a big plus, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. So so they were like whatever, And then

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Speaker 2: you know, after that interview, they would just wouldn't leave

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Speaker 2: us alone. It was like they just would not leave

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Speaker 2: us alone. Every day for about a year, they were calling,

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Speaker 2: you know, like calling every day for a year yr year.

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Speaker 2: By that time, the house was you know, pretty much complete,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And that's when we started

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Speaker 2: moving in. I think they started filming or I don't

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Speaker 2: think they filmed this when we were staying at the

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Speaker 2: other house that I had over there, like the park

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Speaker 2: did they no, right?

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Speaker 3: No, thank god?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So anyway, during that time, I think.

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Speaker 1: Adriana was we were literally living in the woods, like

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Speaker 1: we were living in the woods our playroom, Like my

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Speaker 1: dad couldn't come up there because his head would hit

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Speaker 1: the ceiling. It was like definitely made us closer as

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Speaker 1: a family, I would say, but we were on top

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Speaker 1: of each other living in the woods. So then the

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Speaker 1: show started, So did you and mom talk to us

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Speaker 1: about it? Or like, did you guys ever have a

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Speaker 1: conversation with us about like being on TV?

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Speaker 3: I don't really remember.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so. I mean your mother kind of

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Speaker 2: once we signed, I mean, it was kind of like,

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Speaker 2: you know, a big blur after that, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. It was like, you know, I think the

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Speaker 2: first year we had that big party in my great room,

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Speaker 2: all right. I think that show coushed me one hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand the first year, all right, and uh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, like like housewives.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're displaying every housewife throughout all franchises. They're

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Speaker 1: just playing their lives and the parties.

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Speaker 3: And the glam and all of that.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of housewives will tell you, not just us,

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Speaker 1: but you don't get obviously paid that much money filming

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Speaker 1: a first season show. Your pay obviously grows as the

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Speaker 1: seasons go on.

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Speaker 2: We got to paid nothing in the first season. I'll

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Speaker 2: even say it was like twenty five thousand. I mean

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Speaker 2: it was ridiculous, but whatever.

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Speaker 1: But so when you're throwing parties and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: you know, you grow and make your way and make

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Speaker 1: trying to. But this wasn't anything out of the norm.

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Speaker 1: My mom loved my mom and dad, especially my dad.

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Speaker 1: He loves company. They loved throwing parties, having people over.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like this was anything crazy. But it

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Speaker 2: Every weekend. I mean I didn't I listen, I didn't

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Speaker 2: I didn't care. I mean every weekend I had people

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Speaker 1: The neighbor from down the street over. My dad meets

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Speaker 1: you in the grocery store. Oh, come over for dinner.

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Speaker 1: We're having a big meal tonight.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't know about that, but I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's not too fair we meet people.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we meet people and I.

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Speaker 1: Like them, yeah, you love love the company. But our

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Speaker 1: lives were on full display, the good and the bad.

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Speaker 1: So Mom was literally filmed leaving our home from jail.

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Speaker 1: The show was on pause until she came home. Do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a few episodes like the one up or we

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Speaker 2: were at the vineyard or something. I called your mother something.

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Speaker 2: I know, it was a very nice I mean I

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Speaker 2: don't but that was just out of pure you know,

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Speaker 2: drinking wine and enough was enough, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: We were stuck there and for like a week I think,

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Speaker 2: just it just gets so chaotic with everybody around, because

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Speaker 2: all they want you to do is just start drama

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Speaker 2: and do this and do that. They don't want you

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Speaker 2: to just hang out, and they don't have a normal time,

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Speaker 2: went around with all the people, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like that's what the that's their job. I mean, their

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Speaker 2: So I mean, they would stir this up, stir that up.

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Speaker 2: And so it's never like really relaxing after like especially

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Speaker 2: even surfed that time we went surfing. It was all

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Speaker 2: during that same time, you know what I mean, And

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Speaker 2: we did like a lot. That was the time with

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Speaker 2: the Manzos, you know, that was in the beginning. That

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Speaker 2: That's wrobably one of the episodes that I you know

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Speaker 2: that I regret and what else? What other one? I

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Speaker 2: mean not really, I mean the rest was the rest

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Speaker 2: was whatever I mean, But that was really the only

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Speaker 2: part that really wasn't me because I don't even use

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Speaker 2: that word. I hate that word. And and why you

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Speaker 2: came out of my mouth? I had no idea, And

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Speaker 2: I regret the time. Actually all this stuff happening on

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Speaker 2: television obviously, with this, you know, with the fraud and

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Speaker 2: all this other stuff that, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 2: they would have even bothered me if I wasn't on television.

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Speaker 2: But listen, at the time, my attorney called me up

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Speaker 2: and said that I was a target, all right, which

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Speaker 2: Miles fine scene is now dead and I knew him,

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Speaker 2: and he called me and he said, listen, Joey goes,

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Speaker 2: I just want you to know that in about whatever

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Speaker 2: you're in under investigation and you're a target, you know

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Speaker 2: what I meanly for what And they're like, I'm just

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Speaker 2: telling you, this is just what I heard. I didn't

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Speaker 2: believe him, all right, but it was true and also

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Speaker 2: sure enough in twenty twelve I think it was, or

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Speaker 2: whenever you had twenty twelve, I think we got indicted

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Speaker 2: and that's when all the crap began.

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Speaker 1: So you've had some iconic moments on the Real Housewives,

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Speaker 1: and that's why fans literally love you until this day.

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Speaker 1: They just love how authentic you always were on camera

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Speaker 1: and you can see that from a mile away. There

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Speaker 1: was even that one scene when Mommy was away and

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Speaker 1: you were trying to look for us on the little

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Speaker 1: Quad and you were trying to find us, chasing us

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Speaker 1: around and because you didn't have a license, so you

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Speaker 1: were looking for us on the little Quad and then

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Speaker 1: the other time that is still one of your iconic moments,

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Speaker 1: but again you definitely had too much wine.

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Speaker 3: Is when you did the front flip and chipped your tooth.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, everybody loves it. I'm like, actually, I

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Speaker 2: actually am back to saying when you started crying, that

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Speaker 2: was that because.

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Speaker 3: Well, you literally hit your face so hard.

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Speaker 2: I didn't hit it hard. I hit a tooth that

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Speaker 2: was already chipped. And now when I hit it actually

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Speaker 2: just fell out. The filler actually just fell out because

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Speaker 2: and that filler was in, believe it or not, for

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Speaker 2: a very long time, since I was like sixteen years old,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, but you.

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Speaker 3: Have you had too much wine that night. That was

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Speaker 3: too much.

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Speaker 2: We we did, We had a lot of wine. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember that you chasing us on the little quad?

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Speaker 2: Uh no, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't really remember it either, but it's on. It's on

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Speaker 1: when we filmed while mommy was away. And then the

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Speaker 1: other time when you dropped your phone in the pond.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that I remember.

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Speaker 3: That was so.

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Speaker 2: Funny, Melania, I think because she was throwing some stuff

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Speaker 2: in the water and get really it's like she's throwing

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Speaker 2: dog food or something in the water or what she

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Speaker 2: was doing.

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Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, she was throwing dog food in the water.

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Speaker 1: And then she went on the little quad and.

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Speaker 3: Goes see us suckers or goodbye suckers. Yeah, and then

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Speaker 3: you turned around and your phone went straight into the water.

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Speaker 2: My phone went right into the water.

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Speaker 1: What is one memory that you are so happy was

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Speaker 1: captured by the cameras.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we did that one scene when our whole

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Speaker 2: family took a picture to go other remember when everybody

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Speaker 2: was alive. I mean that was nice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was beautiful.

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Speaker 2: So that's a nice scene. And I think that we

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Speaker 2: were already under uh uh you know, was already starting

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Speaker 2: at the time when the you know, the lawsuits and

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Speaker 2: all that crap were already in play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, they were what was there? Everyone was there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's that was nice. And you know it's

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Speaker 2: nice because now you get to see in my camera

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Speaker 2: every once in a while. I mean, so that's the

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Speaker 2: only nice part about it. I mean you get to

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Speaker 2: see you know, your family. That's uh, you know obviously

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Speaker 2: not here with us right now, but I mean get

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Speaker 2: to see no noah lie, you get to see you

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Speaker 2: no no, you know, my father. So I mean that's

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Speaker 2: the nice parts. And all you guys, you know, growing

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Speaker 2: up like little luh, you know, you were like so cute,

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Speaker 2: you know, growing up and like all these little times

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Speaker 2: that you would just not even remember, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. But every time you see these like times

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Speaker 2: on camera.

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Speaker 1: Flash forward to twenty fourteen. You were sentenced to forty

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Speaker 1: one months in prison and we're immediately deported to Italy

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Speaker 1: once you were released. From your point of view, who

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Speaker 1: took you being deported the hardest in the family.

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think everybody you know took it hard.

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Speaker 2: You know, everybody did, you know, probably like between the kids,

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Speaker 2: I would say, I'm sure, like listen, all of you is,

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Speaker 2: including myself. I mean, it wasn't easy for anybody. But

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Speaker 2: I mean I would say maybe Millennia, Maybe I don't,

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Speaker 2: probably Millennia. Yeah, but I think everybody, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, everybody you know, my mother, my brother, I

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Speaker 2: mean everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we all definitely went through our hardships.

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Speaker 1: Like I definitely went through it a little bit. I

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Speaker 1: think it was like, you know, the point that we

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Speaker 1: were fighting so hard to get you to come home,

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Speaker 1: and was just you know, you stayed in. You stayed

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Speaker 1: in ice eight months after your sentence.

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Speaker 2: I was in eight months, and I would have fought

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Speaker 2: it all the way through. If I would have, they

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Speaker 2: would have just gave me bond, which I don't understand

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Speaker 2: why they wouldn't give me a bond. To get out

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Speaker 2: while I was fighting my case, I would have took

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Speaker 2: it to the the whatever circuit at that point, you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean. There's no reason why I was

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Speaker 2: a flight risk. There's no reason why they had to

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Speaker 2: keep me in prison while I was fighting my case.

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Speaker 2: That was the biggest bs ever, all right. And I

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Speaker 2: don't know who or why, but somebody, somebody had it

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Speaker 2: out for me that didn't want to me obviously in

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Speaker 2: the country, all right, because I've seen a lot worse

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Speaker 2: people come out than me, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: To me, I was like, not basically because my father's

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Speaker 1: case was over ten thousand dollars, but also in retrospect,

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Speaker 1: nobody goes to jail for ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: So by that point when my.

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Speaker 2: Dallars, that's what they claimed, Okay, but they that's.

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Speaker 1: What made you a violent a flight rest that's what

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Speaker 1: made it.

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Speaker 2: It made it an aggravated uh aggravated felon, which doesn't

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Speaker 2: make any sense, you know what I mean. But what

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Speaker 2: happened was when we were doing uh, when we were

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Speaker 2: going before I got sentenced, and once you plead, it's

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Speaker 2: very hard to turn it over, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Because my immigration attorney was fighting so hard to get

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Speaker 2: it because he understood and he knew I was right,

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Speaker 2: but he couldn't get the immigration guy to overturn it

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Speaker 2: because the first judge, judge whatever hell her name.

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Speaker 1: Is, Judge Salas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, once she made you know, once you plead to something,

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Speaker 2: it's very hard for a judge to overturn it. And

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Speaker 2: it's they're not going to overturn it once they once,

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Speaker 2: once it's started, it's done, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So once you plead to something, it's almost impossible. You

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Speaker 2: could try for years and years and years. I've seen

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Speaker 2: people fighting for twenty years while they were in prison,

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Speaker 2: and they became so good a you know law that

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Speaker 2: you know, going by going to the law library every

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Speaker 2: day they got they were actually better than the attorneys.

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Speaker 2: But by also pleading to what I pled to, it

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Speaker 2: was very hard to overturn it. Because they said that

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Speaker 2: I owed two lines of credit five hundred grand, Okay.

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Speaker 2: So I went to the bank, got the discharges from

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Speaker 2: the bank, proved to them that I didn't owe any money,

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Speaker 2: because I obviously if I would have owed, if I had,

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Speaker 2: you know, owed money, I would begin, you know, statements

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Speaker 2: I didn't know. So I went to the bank at

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Speaker 2: the time, why COVID, and I said, listen, these are

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Speaker 2: the account numbers. Can you please give me you know,

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Speaker 2: if I owe the money, I'll pay you guys what

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Speaker 2: I'd have to pay the government for. So yeah, no probib.

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Speaker 2: She went upstate late, it was very nice, came down

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Speaker 2: said you don't know it's any money, right, these are

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Speaker 2: discharges and that was it. So we brought it back

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Speaker 2: and we fought. We fought, but they didn't want to

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Speaker 2: hear it. They basically said, listen, you got forty eight

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Speaker 2: hours to come up with a you know, a decision,

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Speaker 2: or we go to a trial.

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Speaker 3: So and at the end of the day, nobody wants

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Speaker 3: to go to trial.

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Speaker 2: No, nobody wants to go to trial. So they basically

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Speaker 2: gave us an ultimatom. So they said, all right, listen,

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Speaker 2: this is the deal. You go to prison, all right

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Speaker 2: for forty two months whatever it was forty one months,

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Speaker 2: your mother goes home, stays with the kids, and that's

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Speaker 2: the deal, and you got to pay a million and

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Speaker 2: a half dollars. We're like a million a half dollars.

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Speaker 2: What all right. So that was the deal. So we

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Speaker 2: had to end up paying a million and a half dollars,

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Speaker 2: which we paid I believe five hundred at the time

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Speaker 2: and whatever, you know, the payments, and I believe everything

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Speaker 2: is paid as well now. But it's it's just crazy,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, that we.

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Speaker 3: Had to say thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I was no burglar, I was no murderer, I

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Speaker 2: was nothing. I worked real hard to provide for my

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Speaker 2: family and that's so I did, all right. And yes,

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Speaker 2: they got me for a little fraud thing. They said

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Speaker 2: that I made a fraud. Okay, okay, fine, I did

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Speaker 2: a fraud.

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Speaker 3: Where did things go wrong with the fraud?

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Speaker 2: Normally, people when they get a fraud charge or they

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Speaker 2: get it whatever, you know, sometimes you'll get a fine,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Normally back in the day,

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Speaker 2: they will give you like a fine. You know, they'll

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Speaker 2: give you a pretty much a slap on the wrist,

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Speaker 2: a fine and a you know, maybe house arrests sometimes

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Speaker 2: you know, or whatever, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 2: nothing like serious.

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Speaker 5: I mean, if anything, if you did a really big fraud, okay,

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Speaker 5: like you know, they can't do like a Ponzi scheme

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Speaker 5: like what's his name over there, you know the guy

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Speaker 5: who you know made off of one of those things.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's different, you know what I mean. Now

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Speaker 2: you're robbing everybody, you're literally robbing people. But when you're

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Speaker 2: signing a piece of paper just to get you know,

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Speaker 2: a loan of proof, then that's what most people did, right.

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Speaker 2: He would just sign a piece of paper like you know,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure I did plenty of times, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean, and just signed whatever I signed, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean. Half the times, you know, I just

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Speaker 2: read it over and the numbers whatever. But boom boom,

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Speaker 2: signed paper and that's it. That's closing, all right, And

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Speaker 2: uh that's just what you do, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So now I should have only gotten not even a

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Speaker 2: year in prison. Mom should have got maybe probation, okay,

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Speaker 2: if that okay, if you were there, if you wanted

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Speaker 2: to go real hard on her. I got thirty six

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Speaker 2: months for that. Like literally, guys that were in there

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Speaker 2: three four times okay, for doing credit card scams okay,

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Speaker 2: and I know them, This guy Mike that was in there.

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Speaker 2: This guy was in there the third time credit card scams.

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Speaker 2: The third time, he got twenty two months, okay, And

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about this guy was ripping people off big time,

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Speaker 2: all right. And he was in there for twenty two

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Speaker 2: months the third time he got off. Okay, another he

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Speaker 2: was in there. This guy, this guy was big time,

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Speaker 2: all right. I mean, this guy was doing like they

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Speaker 2: couldn't find him for years, but he was doing it

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Speaker 2: for years. This guy, he literally got him for millions.

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Speaker 2: He put millions in India. He was smart. See now,

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Speaker 2: if I did that, I'd be happy, all right. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if I would have got him for twenty

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Speaker 2: five million, twenty eight million dollars. And they put me

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Speaker 2: in jail for three years with cares, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. But there was another guy. He was so

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Speaker 2: mad one day, right, this guy, and he's complaining, all right,

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Speaker 2: that he is in jail for two years and he

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Speaker 2: robbed the system for thirty six million dollars. And he

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Speaker 2: had the thirty six million dollars sitting somewhere, all right,

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Speaker 2: and they didn't never they never got it, all right.

437
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: And he was saying, yeah, they got me for two years.

438
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 2: I got to sit in here for two years. I'm like,

439
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 2: what'd you do? He goes, you know, I got him

440
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: for like thirty six million. I go, sorry, did they

441
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: get it back? Or did they or do you have

442
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 2: it somewhere? He goes, I have it so much. Oh.

443
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: I wanted to punch him right in his nose. I like,

444
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: what are you complaining about? You got thirty six million

445
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,359
Speaker 2: dollars sitting waiting for you when you get out worried

446
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,439
Speaker 2: about you know what I mean? These are guys that

447
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 2: are in there that scam the system, but they know

448
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: how to scam them. You know, a lot of them

449
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: get away with it. A lot of them don't. Obviously

450
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,880
Speaker 2: a lot of them that are like billionaires that are

451
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,640
Speaker 2: that were in there that you know, they had jets.

452
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 2: I've seen in there and uh, just totally get crushed.

453
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 2: I mean I mean they like literally this guys didn't

454
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,679
Speaker 2: even have a dime left to their name. They just

455
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 2: like take everything. I mean they take everything, just like

456
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: they did to me. Don't come home there like me.

457
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 2: They froze all my accounts all right for like almost

458
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: six months to where all the banks were taken now,

459
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 2: you know, taking back the properties, all those properties that

460
00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 2: worked hard for there should have been yours right now.

461
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: You know, they came in and just basically froze everything,

462
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, because that's what they do. They don't care.

463
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 2: They came to the house. They wanted to take our furniture,

464
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,399
Speaker 2: our artwork. They said that we had Picassos and all

465
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: this stuff hanging out. Picassos, what are you talking about?

466
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,200
Speaker 2: You know. I was like, I was asking you what

467
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 2: I we got Paassos hanging on the wall, right, He's like,

468
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: what Picassos? You know what I mean. So I'm like, well,

469
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 2: they're coming in here to take all our you know, everything,

470
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: even our artwork. They say, there, we got Picasso's hanging

471
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 2: out over here, right. So I was like, I was like,

472
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 2: whatever they came in, we were able to stop it.

473
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: So they didn't, you know, take our furniture out and this,

474
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 2: that and the other thing. And I think it was

475
00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 2: miles that I was actually able to stop it or that.

476
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,400
Speaker 2: I don't know which attorney. We had so many damn

477
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 2: attornies at the time, but anyway, it was, Uh, it

478
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,880
Speaker 2: was definitely a rough time. And uh, you know, listen

479
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: there we could go on and on with stories forever,

480
00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. So, uh, yeah, we definitely

481
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 2: went through some hard times, but look, we're gonna rise

482
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 2: above all out, you know what I mean, and that'll

483
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: all be behind us, you know, hopefully, and it is

484
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: behind us, you know what I mean, but hopefully one day,

485
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,960
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I just want to be

486
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 2: able to be able to come back there, you know,

487
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: spend time, you know, when I you know, when it's

488
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: your birthday, when it's whatever it might be. I mean,

489
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure one day you're gonna get married. I like

490
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 2: to be there for your wedding so we don't have

491
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,879
Speaker 2: to be like destination weddings and all this stuff like that.

492
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 2: It's a bad thing, but I mean, at the end

493
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 2: of the day, not everybody could come to the destination wedding.

494
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm sure you want all your friends everybody to be there,

495
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: and you know, we'll figure it out. I mean, one

496
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 2: step at a time.

497
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of rising above it, Trump recently pardoned the Christly

498
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: is what did you think about that?

499
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I'm very happy that they got pardoned,

500
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,080
Speaker 2: all right, I really am. I mean I think that

501
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 2: they got.

502
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 3: A blessing for their family.

503
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they got you know, I mean ten

504
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: years for what they did. I mean, come on, basically

505
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 2: the same thing that they charged me and your mother with.

506
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. They but I think they

507
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 2: went to trial because I mean, I talked to Savannah

508
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: for briefly, you know, about the case, and I and

509
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 2: I believe that, you know, from what I remember, they

510
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 2: went to trial, all right, and that's why they got

511
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:53,600
Speaker 2: hit with such a lengthly sentence, which they probably would

512
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 2: have got less time than me and your mother, you know,

513
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: maybe the same time, you know what I mean. So

514
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 2: really the time that they served, they would have been

515
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 2: getting out anyway, you know what I mean, because you know,

516
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 2: they were both I believe, in a camp, you know

517
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 2: what I mean, which doesn't matter when you're away, you're away,

518
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: you're still away, you know what I mean. You're not

519
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 2: with your family, you know what I mean, So it

520
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 2: doesn't matter where you're at. And so I mean, they

521
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 2: would have probably been getting out even if they took

522
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: a plea. They probably would have been getting out during

523
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 2: the same time that they actually got out, which is

524
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 2: a blessing for them because to spend ten years in

525
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: prison over over what, you know, whatever crime it was,

526
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean that they said that they did,

527
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I don't know, you know

528
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 2: what I mean, if it's you know, I don't know

529
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 2: the case, do well, you know what I mean. But

530
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 2: it was just they didn't murder nobody, you know what

531
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 2: I mean. Murderers get ten years, you know what I mean.

532
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,400
Speaker 2: They didn't do anything like that. I mean, they basically

533
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: whatever it was, it was, you know, uh, white collar

534
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: all right, it was a white collar crime. There's no

535
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 2: reason why they should have got ten years. So yeah,

536
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 2: I'm glad that they got pardoned. I'm glad that they're

537
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 2: out and the family they're together and you know, as

538
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: it should be.

539
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: Have you reached out to Todd Chris Leason's Trump pardon him?

540
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: I didn't know. I don't really know that chrislies. I

541
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 2: don't know Todd. I mean, I would like to talk

542
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 2: to him. I mean, listen, right now, they're still you know,

543
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: getting their stuff together, you know what I mean, doing

544
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: everything they're doing. I'm sure or happy to be together.

545
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 2: I don't like to bother anybody, and I don't like to, like,

546
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, get into you know how they did it,

547
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: and you know what they did and whatever. I mean, Listen,

548
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 2: if something's gonna happen, it'll happen, you know what I mean,

549
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: By the grace of God, it'll happen. And that's all

550
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: you could you know, do is just you know, it's

551
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: all up to God. At the end of the day.

552
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: We're here every day only because of God. Otherwise we

553
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't be here, you know what I mean. So we're

554
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: here every day you get up, you got to just

555
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: thank God for being alive. And that's it.

556
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 1: An, I've been writing letters to Trump and posting a

557
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: lot on social media asking for you to get pardoned.

558
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 3: I know you've been doing the same.

559
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: And a lot of people have, you know, obviously had

560
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: their comments on it. But at the end of the day,

561
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I think everyone needs to realize that every girl, every

562
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 1: every daughter, every son, any family member would want their

563
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 1: father home, and that is all that we are asking for.

564
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: But is pardoning something that you want? Do you want

565
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 1: to come back to the US.

566
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: Of course I want to come back to the US.

567
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 2: I mean I only grew up there, you know. I

568
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 2: mean I was a year old when I came to

569
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 2: the US. And when I came to the US, I

570
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: came in legally, all right. If I would have came

571
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,120
Speaker 2: in illegally, like over the wall, the Mexican border wall,

572
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have got deported to how crazy there's immigration laws. Nobody,

573
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense. It totally needs to be revamped,

574
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: redone and done the right way because it doesn't make

575
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: any sense the way it's actually the law. The immigration

576
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: law is crazy. I mean it's totally crazy. So because

577
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 2: I came in legally, that's why I got deported. Now,

578
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 2: people that came in illegally got out on bail and

579
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: were able to fight their case outside, which was crazy crazy.

580
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: They couldn't understand it. And meanwhile I spent thousands and

581
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of dollars on lawyers. My immigration attorney

582
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 2: said that what was you got to If you can

583
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: get the judge to amend one word, you won't get

584
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: deported in a sentence. All she had to do was

585
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: just a mend one word. Of course, thirty thousand dollars months.

586
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 2: That was another thing took months to do, all right,

587
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 2: nothing she wouldn't amend that one word. So I was like, wow,

588
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: you know, that was like a big, big blow right there.

589
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: So they wouldn't let me out, and that place in

590
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: there just broke me. I couldn't take being in there.

591
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 2: I mean I would rather have gone to heaven. And

592
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: stayed in there, you know what I mean. That's how

593
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 2: bad it wasn't there. I mean I've seen that's different stories,

594
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: but I mean it was terrible in there. So to

595
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: get out of it was just a relief. Yeah, it

596
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 2: hurt once I was out, and then I hit Italy

597
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: and it actually hit home, you know what I mean.

598
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: That I wasn't actually home, you know what I mean.

599
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: Now I'm in Italy, where a place that I would

600
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: just go and visit, not really my home, you know

601
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: what I mean. So that's when it hit, and that's

602
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: a whole different you know, that was a whole different

603
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: you know, lifestyle you had to get used to over there.

604
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 2: But listen, if you can adapt in prison, you're can

605
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: adapt anywhere, all right. So I adapted. I did what

606
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: I had to do, and now I'm here in the Bahamas,

607
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 2: closer to you guys, which is better, you know what

608
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean, Not the same, but better, you know what

609
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 2: I mean. At least she's gonna come here and visit.

610
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: It's not too far. It's only a couple hours away,

611
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 2: which is a lot better than you know, having a

612
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: deal with twelve hours of traveling, you know, going to

613
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 2: Italy with between cars and this and that. You know,

614
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 2: it was a lot, so, you know, and this is

615
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: where we stand. So I mean, at the end of

616
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: the day, we fought. We thought, It's not like we

617
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: didn't fight. We fought.

618
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: You fought to make your way back here. It was

619
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,479
Speaker 1: appeal after appeal, deny after denying. My dad came to

620
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: the point of skin and bones. I could he was

621
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: unrecognizable for a little bit.

622
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: I was littally one hundred and sixty pounds, like not good.

623
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: It was definitely a rough time, and you know, I

624
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: think it was discouraging because we really did fight hard,

625
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: and I think you know, we were you know, obviously

626
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: his kids, we were not where he was. So as

627
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: much as we were pushing him to stay and pushing

628
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: him to fight, once we actually went to go visit

629
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: him and I saw.

630
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 3: How he was literally he was just depleting.

631
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: So once the appeals and just kept getting denied, and

632
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: every time we tried to do something, everything we did

633
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: just kept getting denied. He you know, he did tell

634
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 1: us like I can't do this anymore. So once we

635
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 1: heard that, obviously we want our dad here and not

636
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: anywhere else. So we want him physically with us. So

637
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: then that was when he got He called it quit

638
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: and they literally had him on a plane the next day.

639
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: It was the quickest It wasn't it wasn't quit, but

640
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: I didn't want to quit.

641
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: But we know.

642
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that, like, they're so quick to get

643
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: you out of here, but they're so But if you

644
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 1: want to stay and keep fighting, they will let you

645
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: rot in there. Besides us, what have you missed the

646
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: most from your old life since being deported?

647
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 2: Old? I mean I missed doing what I was doing there.

648
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 2: I mean I missed real estate. I miss you know,

649
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 2: buying buildings and you know, renovating him and doing all that.

650
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, that was my life. That's what I did.

651
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 2: Even though nobody really knew what I did there. I

652
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 2: never really bragged about it or said anything about it,

653
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like as soon as

654
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: I was on the show, all right, and all these

655
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 2: tenants that were in my buildings all of a sudden

656
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: started getting hurt and filing well suits and everything else.

657
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: It was like the craziest thing in the world, you

658
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: know what I mean. So anyway, yeah, I missed the

659
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 2: real estate, I miss a building, I miss renting apartments.

660
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: I missed that whole life, you know what I mean,

661
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: having everything I had there and I was king there,

662
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. At the time, I had

663
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: almost four hundred apartments. Right now I probably have twenty

664
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: five one hundred apartments. You know, all the years I

665
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: only did I got those four hundred apartments. Did that

666
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 2: in like, you know, when I started getting at the

667
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: real estate, I mean all the big buildings. I actually

668
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: did it in like four or five years. But I

669
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: mean throughout my time, I had like over you know,

670
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: forty to fifty homes all over the place. You know,

671
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, that's how I made my money.

672
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: That's definitely something that I would love to learn if

673
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: you ever got brought back.

674
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I'm gonna teach you how to do it regardless,

675
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: all right. So it's very simple. It's not a hard

676
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: thing to do. I will walk you step by step

677
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 2: through the whole thing. That's easy. So, I mean, whenever

678
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: you're ready and you want something, but wait till the

679
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: prices go down. I think the prices are going to

680
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: go down. Interest rates are going to go down, and

681
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: that once that happens, then you know, you go looking

682
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: for something and you buy it. You know, you put

683
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: very little money down as a first time buyer. You

684
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure they'll you know, you don't have to put

685
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: that much money down and get something, you know, with

686
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 2: a few families, you know, two or three families. Whatever

687
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: it is that you can find. You don't mean even

688
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 2: not du plugs, whatever. You know, you have something paying

689
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: your mortgage, paying your bills from the one side, you

690
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 2: live on the other side, and then you just keep it,

691
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You let it build equity,

692
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 2: and then you just when you're ready to buy another home,

693
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 2: you pull some money out of there, a little money

694
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: out of your pocket. You're buying a home, you're a

695
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 2: regular home.

696
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 3: Are you dating anyone right now?

697
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah?

698
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: We like her a lot. I know I'm wearing her

699
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: the necklace she got me. Actually, what I say, it's pretty.

700
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: Look cute.

701
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

702
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: She is sweet though, right.

703
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 3: She's so sweet. Yeah, we love her.

704
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: She's very nice. Yeah, so this is obviously a joke.

705
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: Question knock on wood. If mom and Lewis ever broke up,

706
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: would you and mom ever consider getting back together?

707
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: Alisten, I'll always be your mom's friend no matter what,

708
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So it doesn't matter. I mean,

709
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: I'll always be the same with it no matter what. Well,

710
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, listen, you can never say never.

711
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 2: I mean, uh, but maybe when we're if we're still

712
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: alive when we're ninety, not honestly.

713
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Oh, guys, make it a ninety Let's hope.

714
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hope. You know what I mean. But listen,

715
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: you don't know. I mean, in life, you never know.

716
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: But right now I'm happy.

717
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: Margie's amazing, and obviously you guys are both happy, and

718
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: that's all that matters. That was really you know, what

719
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: we could only hope for us your kids is for

720
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: you both to just find happiness in all of this,

721
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: because there were definitely a lot of dark times and

722
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: all we want is for the both of you to

723
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 1: be happy and enjoy your life. And you know that's

724
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: what it's all about.

725
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I agree, And for my kids to

726
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: be happy, that's the most important thing.

727
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,560
Speaker 1: So and you and Louie get along, which is great,

728
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: so you know, you respect him.

729
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 3: We live in the we live under his roof.

730
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: So he's a good guy. I mean, he got he

731
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 2: gets uh. I don't know why they you know whatever,

732
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, I guess they don't know him like

733
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 2: I know him, you know what I mean. I guess

734
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 2: they just know him from being on TV or whatever.

735
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: But I mean I think that if they actually met Louie,

736
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 2: then they'll see you different, you know, Louie, you know

737
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: than what they portray him to be on television, you

738
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Or you know, I mean listen,

739
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 2: they could caught an edit and do anything they want

740
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 2: and make it look however the way they want on TV.

741
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of things you could do. Same

742
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: thing you could do on your telephone when you do

743
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: your tiktoks and all this other stuff you could do

744
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: when you you know, when they're editing and doing the film.

745
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: So he could change everything. You can put words in

746
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: people's mouths. It's gets crazy what they could do. They

747
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: could do it even through making shows and doing whatever.

748
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 2: A lot of things I don't believe, even Kate, like

749
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 2: even during that time up there, when you know, I

750
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: said that word that I didn't want to say. Now

751
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: I might have said it, but I mean there was

752
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 2: other things in there they kind of you know, twisted around.

753
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't exactly and I look at the

754
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 2: time we were drinking a lot of wine as well,

755
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 2: But that's no excuse. But I think that they kind

756
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 2: of hit something to make it look like I was

757
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: really like, you know, and I was really talking to

758
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: my friend Alb. But I mean they made it sound

759
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: like I was talking to another girl. Yeah.

760
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 1: No, they definitely know how to twist things up. But

761
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: he is a great step dad and you guys have

762
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: a great relationship in a great respect level for each other,

763
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: which is really nice because that's all you want.

764
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 4: Also is as long as he treat you guys right,

765
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, treat your mom right, that's all that matters.

766
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, obviously, like from our perspective, we

767
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: just want all our families to get along and have

768
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 1: a beautiful, blended family, and I think we do that.

769
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 1: And I mean, how would you describe you and Mom's

770
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: relationship after you were deported?

771
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:03,240
Speaker 2: After I was deported?

772
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.

773
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: It was like kind of like whatever, you know. I mean,

774
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: it was you know, draining, you know what I mean,

775
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 2: all those years being a what part and doing this

776
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,319
Speaker 2: and doing that? You know. I mean, but look, she

777
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: always did the right thing. She can't I can't say

778
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: nothing bad about your Mommy. Mom was always good but

779
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 2: I mean it was I guess it was just time

780
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: to just move on and just do whatever. I mean,

781
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 2: even if we would have tried, I mean, I don't

782
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: know how that would have worked out, you know what

783
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: I mean, how would that have worked that? You know

784
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 2: what I mean? If you live in Italy.

785
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: I think I think after you got deported, you guys

786
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 1: knew that, like it was, it was time to call

787
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: it quit.

788
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 3: But I think what was you know admiring when you

789
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: guys did get.

790
00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,439
Speaker 1: Divorced, was that you guys always maintained your relationship because

791
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean before you guys even had a romantic relationship

792
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: or got married, you guys were best friends growing up.

793
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 3: You were always best friends.

794
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: We'll always remain friends, you know what I mean. It's

795
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 2: just you know, look, we got four beautiful daughters, So

796
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: what else do we want in life? Four beautiful daughters,

797
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 2: and you know, thank god, they're all these guys are

798
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: all good and healthy and smart, and that's what matters

799
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: in life.

800
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: So what else have you been up to in the Bahamas?

801
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Any more fights in the future.

802
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: I haven't been really uh yeah, I haven't really been

803
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 2: training for any fight. But I mean, it wasn't easy

804
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: yet thought it would be you know, even though I

805
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: could fight, But I mean that boxing is like a

806
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: whole different level, you know what I mean. Like if

807
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: I'm able to use my feet and like takedowns and

808
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I mean, that's what I know how

809
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 2: to do. I know how to take people down, break

810
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: people's legs, you know. I know how to like choke people.

811
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: I know how to like grab people and make them submit.

812
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: You know what, hand things. I know how to do

813
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 2: all that stuff. You know what I mean. That's what

814
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 2: I trained my whole life. Boxing.

815
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: You would kill it in kickboxing. Boxing is a little different.

816
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: Boxing, I like, you know what I mean. It wasn't

817
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: like but listen, I think I did pretty good. I

818
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: mean the kick with you know, the guy that I

819
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: fought was uh, it wasn't you know. I found out

820
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 2: that he's also a black belt as well, you know

821
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: what I mean. So he's not a slouch that guy,

822
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, No, definitely not. And I mean he was

823
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 2: in good shape, but he was not a He was

824
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 2: definitely not a slouch, you know what I mean. I

825
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 2: took him a little light, you know what I mean.

826
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean I did barely Ever, I didn't even trade

827
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 2: that much. To be honest with you, I really didn't

828
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: trade that much. I wasn't running, I wasn't doing nothing

829
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 2: like that. I really was. And I took him kind

830
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: of light and my goal was really just to go

831
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: in and uh. But he you know, he had he

832
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: was obviously a trained fighter as well, so I.

833
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 3: Mean he was it was in shape.

834
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a lot harder than I thought, you

835
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And but whatever I did it,

836
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I definitely hit him

837
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: a lot more times than he hit me.

838
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: Well yeah, at least you won. So what else have

839
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 3: you been up to in the Bahamas?

840
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: So what I'm doing now is basically this. I see

841
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 2: every time I go on TikTok, you know what I'm cooking.

842
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: I'm doing something, you know what I mean. I do

843
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: a TikTok once in a while, you know, and people

844
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: always like, oh, we want to come cook, but we

845
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: want to come do this, but I want to come

846
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: do that way. So I'm like, So, anyway, we came

847
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: up with a like an idea. Actually we were just

848
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: around all right, and my neighbor actually came up with

849
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: the idea and he goes, well, why don't you do

850
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: some kind of like raffle thing where you could get

851
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: the people, you know what I mean, to just you

852
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: know ra you know, raffle, like a weekend with Joe

853
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: or something like that. So that's time I came up

854
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: with this weekend with Joe thing, right, So I talked

855
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,839
Speaker 2: to a few people and they convinced me to do it.

856
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 2: Which now you know, it's going good. I mean, we're

857
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: selling a lot of tickets, you know, we're doing whatever.

858
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: But you think three thousand is like you sell right away,

859
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 2: But it's really not that easy to sell three thousand tickets.

860
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 2: It's a lot, you know I mean, So, I mean

861
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: it's going well, that's selling every day. And basically the

862
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: whole plan is, look, not everybody can afford, you know

863
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: what I mean, to come to the Bahamas. So with

864
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: fifteen dollars, yes, at three thousand, tickets are close to

865
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: that as all as it covers over forty something thousand,

866
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 2: because you can easily spend over twenty something thousand dollars

867
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: here in a weekend going you know nuts, you know

868
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: what I mean. You get lunches here are crazy dinners,

869
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: are crazy drinks of thirty dollars each Okay, So you

870
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: could definitely go through a lot of money here going

871
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: you know, balling out, you know what I mean? You know,

872
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,959
Speaker 2: I mean, you've been here plenty of times and it's

873
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: very expensive here. It's not cheap by no means. And listen,

874
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: if you're going to do it, you're obviously gonna put

875
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: the people in a nice, nice place to stay. You're

876
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 2: not going to put them in a you know, a

877
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: roach infested place. So I mean, you got to put

878
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: them in a nice place, minimal five hundred a night

879
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: or better. Otherwise you know, you're not going to find something,

880
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: you know in between there, you know, so what a fire,

881
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: you know, close to a five star dinners. You gotta

882
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: give them breakfast. You gotta give them lunch, all right,

883
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: that's easy one every day in food you talk and uh,

884
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of money. Then you gotta bring

885
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: them voating. You're gonna bring them on tours, right, those

886
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 2: tour things. You know how everything is here? Everything is

887
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: just expensive. Everywhere you go. You're shoveling money out. So

888
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: and I got to take three or four days out

889
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: of my time, so I gotta make money as well,

890
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, I can't just do it

891
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: for nothing, you know what I mean. But the thing is,

892
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: you got like, let's just say somebody wins, like I see,

893
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 2: I hear a lot of people. You know, Oh, I

894
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: just want I'll come by myself, or I'll bring this

895
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: person I'll bring out. Yeah, you're allowed to bring yourself.

896
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: You know. Whatever the winner is could bring another person

897
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: with them or a little blind or a mother or

898
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 2: whatever they want to do. Three four people, I don't care,

899
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But if you win, Let's

900
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: say one person wins, an he got nobody to bring?

901
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: What shout out? If they would have nobody to bring,

902
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: I would have another draw and I would pick two people,

903
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, So that two people win.

904
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: You can't just have one person win, you know what

905
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: I mean. So you have two people win and you

906
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: just pick two people out of their draw, you know

907
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: what I mean. So I mean, it's actually a pretty

908
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 2: good business thing. And it could go on and you know,

909
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: listen for the amount of money that you spend and

910
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: it's only fifteen bucks. But I think next time, I

911
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: only a brea. Once this is done and it hits

912
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 2: the limit and I pick that winner, I want to

913
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: raise it up to twenty five, so you don't have

914
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 2: as many people, you know what I mean. So you

915
00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 2: want to bring it down to like less people, which

916
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: is actually a pretty good business thing. I mean, I

917
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: do have the boats out here, I do have everything

918
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 2: out here, so I mean, you know, and I know

919
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: everywhere to go on the island, you know what I mean.

920
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: And here you have seven hundred islands. You don't have

921
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: just one island, you know what I mean. So in

922
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 2: one day, you know, we could go here. Next day,

923
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 2: if they want to go on a boat again, I'll

924
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: take them to go boat to another place. I mean,

925
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: whatever they want to do their weekend is what they

926
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 2: want to do.

927
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: So we're doing weekends with Joe. Are you working on

928
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: some construction out there?

929
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 2: I am working on construction or I'm getting a lot

930
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: of things in the works with construction and just waiting

931
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: on a couple of big things to come through, and

932
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: hopefully they come through so I can get back into

933
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: the I would love to get back into the real

934
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: estate game out here because that's what I love doing.

935
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: And I mean the real estate out here is very

936
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: good and I could definitely see myself getting back into

937
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: it out here, for sure. And even if I'm allowed

938
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: back over there, I'll definitely be here working with real

939
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: estate here, you know what I mean. So that's my thing,

940
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: is definitely getting back into the real estate thing. And

941
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: it looks it's not easy out here. It's very expensive,

942
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: all right, It's not an easy way to live out here.

943
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: But once you get into it, you know, it takes

944
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 2: a few years to get everything down and together, you

945
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: know what I mean, and stuff like that, Bob, Once

946
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: you're in there and you're doing it right, you can

947
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 2: make money.

948
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: So the last thing that I'm going to ask you,

949
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,959
Speaker 1: the fans are dying to know if you really sell

950
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,919
Speaker 1: sex toys, tell them that this was the past thing.

951
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was actually when I first got out of

952
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: prison during COVID. Okay, so I made a deal with

953
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 2: the guy to where he paid me thirty percent of

954
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 2: what he grossed every month, and it was actually very

955
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: profitable for me though, you know what I mean. I

956
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 2: gotta say when I got out, I was making five six,

957
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 2: seven thousand dollars a month doing that. It was actually

958
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 2: very good.

959
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 3: So no more sex toys, No more.

960
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: Sex toys, Zam. But it was very profitable during COVID.

961
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 2: I thought it was a great idea, you know.

962
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, people were bored, I guess.

963
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: So anyway, I'm so happy for you and your new show,

964
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: Next Gen n y C. Now, I don't know if

965
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 2: that's true or now, but I heard that it's the

966
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 2: highest rated show in Bravo. Is that true? Yeah?

967
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: We were the highest rated first, like highest rated premiere

968
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: show ever on Bravo. So like our first episode was

969
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: the like our premiere for Next Gen. M I see

970
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: our first episode that aired the highest rated show on Bravo.

971
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, what about throughout the season? I mean still

972
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: I heard that I had the highest rates.

973
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, we still did great throughout the season.

974
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't watch every episode, but I did

975
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 2: watch a few, you know what I mean, because I

976
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,840
Speaker 2: would sit there and lay in bed and watch it

977
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: with because Margie would watch it all the time, and

978
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: I would watch and I mean I thought it was

979
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: pretty funny. I liked it. I mean it was enjoyable

980
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: to watch, you know what I mean. It was definitely

981
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 2: a good show.

982
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't bad.

983
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 1: So now are showing the older demographic they need to

984
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: watch it because I feel like it's definitely a younger

985
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: demographic show, but tying in like Mom and other like

986
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: housewives and stuff, it makes it a little more intriguing

987
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: for everybody, for all you know, all ages to watch it.

988
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. I thought it was good. I thought it was

989
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 2: very good. And I think that'll do very well with

990
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: that show.

991
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.

992
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: So we're waiting right now to here if we're going

993
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: to get a season two.

994
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're going to get a season two.

995
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

996
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: So we did that, and now I'm just working on

997
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: you know, Casual Chaos. I just launched another podcast called

998
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: Dirty Rush and now we're just working and I'm working.

999
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 2: What's a Dirty Rush?

1000
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:17,400
Speaker 3: It's a new podcast.

1001
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: So I have this podcast, Casual Chaos, and then I

1002
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:24,280
Speaker 1: also have another podcast with two other two other women,

1003
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Jen Fessler and Daisy Kent. And so it's the three

1004
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: of us because we all three of us were in

1005
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: sororities at college.

1006
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 3: So it's basically we're going to have like a hotline where.

1007
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: People call in tell their sorority stories. Moms can relate

1008
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: to Jen Fesler because she's older then like me and Daisy.

1009
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 3: Daisy's twenty ses. She was a friend of Jersey on

1010
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: Jersey Housewives.

1011
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: That sounds familiar to they.

1012
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was on Jersey as a friend, not a housewife,

1013
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 1: but like she was on like you know, she was

1014
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: on the show. Okay, but she works with iHeartRadio. So

1015
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: it's me, Jen Fessler and Daisy Kent. Daisy got a

1016
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: lot of recognition from being on the Bachelor. But it's

1017
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: us three and we're basically going to talk to mom's

1018
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: girls that are going into college thinking about rushing a sorority,

1019
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: girls that have Russia sorority, kind of talk about the

1020
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: experience because it gets pretty crazy, especially down South, rushing

1021
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:28,840
Speaker 1: a sorority.

1022
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 3: There's a lot that goes into it and a lot

1023
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 3: of things.

1024
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,879
Speaker 1: So there's never been a sorority podcast before, so we're

1025
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: starting that too. So it's been really exciting, a lot

1026
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: of good things.

1027
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. That's good.

1028
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 4: I'm really happy for you. And you're very good at

1029
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 4: doing that as well. Thanks to very good, very good

1030
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 4: to you. You learned good. And you know who's the

1031
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 4: other housewife?

1032
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 2: I guess Siggy Flicker was on the Housewives when I

1033
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: was away, right did she come on? How long was

1034
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: she on the Housewives for?

1035
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't I think she was on for like maybe

1036
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: two years. But yeah, I know you've been in contact

1037
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,280
Speaker 1: with Seggie Flecker. She's been amazing.

1038
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 2: And she she's such a nice person.

1039
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: She really is. And she's had our family and her

1040
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 3: prayers for sure.

1041
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's such a nice person. She's got kids too.

1042
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 3: Right, two kids and girls.

1043
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 2: She has a point to go. I think I saw

1044
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: something that was her daughter getting married or something.

1045
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so maybe her son, maybe her

1046
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: son got engaged.

1047
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Somebody got engaged something like that. Maybe, sure, Yeah, but

1048
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm glad that she's up there. And you know what.

1049
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: The other crazy thing is that we were on the Apprentice,

1050
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 2: you know, so I was thinking that Trump would have

1051
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 2: maybe pardon me when I first got it, you know

1052
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: what I mean, because I was very friendly with him.

1053
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: You know, we were friends. I mean, we talked in

1054
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: his office, We had lunch together a few times, you know,

1055
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 2: one time downstairs, you know what I mean. We spoke

1056
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 2: in his office for a while. His father owned properties

1057
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: where I used to have properties in East Orange, and

1058
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 2: we spoke for a while, and I knew exact building

1059
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: that he was talking about because my building was on

1060
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: Glidwood Avenue right here. And he had one, I believe

1061
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 2: one of the office buildings that was, you know, sitting

1062
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 2: right across the street his father's stone back in the day.

1063
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: And you know, so we got along good. I mean

1064
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 2: throughout the whole show. I mean, he was actually I

1065
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: never wanted to bother him too much because he was

1066
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 2: always busy, you know what I mean, doing this and

1067
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, and doing everything. You know, because he's a

1068
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: busy guy. And he would always go out of his

1069
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 2: way come and shake my hand, which I thought was

1070
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 2: very nice. So I mean, I was like really open

1071
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: that he was gonna do something while I was away,

1072
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I was like, you know what,

1073
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: I hope he gives me a part. But obviously I

1074
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 2: wasn't on his mind.

1075
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean even during that time when you

1076
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: were away, we were constantly writing letters, character letters, and

1077
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,360
Speaker 1: I just recently did that again, so you know, and

1078
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: hopefully hopefully there was awareness and recognition that comes from

1079
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: all of those.

1080
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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see what happens. I mean, look, by the way,

1081
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 2: dude is just pretty good. And see what happens, you

1082
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Uh, hopefully it does. You know.

1083
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: You gotta just stay positive, always stay positive, good things

1084
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 2: will happen.

1085
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 3: Yes, all right dad, Well, I love you so much

1086
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: and thank you.

1087
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 2: I love you so baby, and thank you for having

1088
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: me on.

1089
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 1: All right.

1090
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,919
Speaker 3: I love you, love this, keep love you. I love

1091
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 3: you more. I'll call you and I'm in the car

1092
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:32,240
Speaker 3: with Adriana, all right. Bye, bye, Okay, I love you. Bye.