WEBVTT - Savor Classics: Breadfruit 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:11.600 Hello, and welcome to Savor Protection of iHeartRadio. I'm Annie 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:12.080 Reese and. 0:00:12.039 --> 0:00:14.520 I'm Lauren Boglah Bam, and today we have a classic 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:16.680 episode for you about breadfruit. 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:23.720 Yes, h this is an oldie, A bit of an oldie. 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:31.560 Yeah, August of twenty eighteen. What yeah, yeah, And we 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:34.839 when we originally did this episode, neither of us, I 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:39.680 think had any particular experience with breadfruit. I still don't 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:41.760 think I've managed to have any. Have you any. 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.680 I feel like I have. I'm hesitating because I can't 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.360 remember it specifically, and I might be mixing it up 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:53.120 with jackfruit. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.520 Yeah, I know that we've talked about, right, We've talked 0:00:55.520 --> 0:00:56.720 about jackfruits. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:02.120 But yes, I feel like I've some at my local 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:05.959 grocery store that was kind of in the vegetarian section. 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:13.120 But I can't. I can't say for sure, Lauren, that 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.080 sounds more like jackfruit to me. 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:22.000 But but yeah, so so more more homework, more homework 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:23.680 is needed, yes. 0:01:24.240 --> 0:01:29.720 Oh so much delicious homework. Was there any particular reason 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.559 this was on your mind to bring back, Lauren? 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:35.040 Nope, I was just going through our archive and landed 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:39.200 on this one as an interesting one that it's with 0:01:39.240 --> 0:01:42.640 some of these older episodes, it's it's so funny. Well, 0:01:42.680 --> 0:01:44.919 I mean, okay, there's a lot of weird, weird, funny 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.760 parts about this job, Like it is truly a strange job. 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:52.160 But and if y'all don't know, like this is both 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:55.480 of our day job, like we like we each have 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:57.920 a four to oh one k about podcasting, which is 0:01:57.960 --> 0:02:05.200 weird but great in many ways. But one of the 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:09.240 weird aspects is listening back to yourself from you know, 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.679 seven years prior and just sort of going like, oh, 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:19.000 like what a snapshot into my history. It's into our history, 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:20.000 into the show's history. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:26.639 Yeah, it is. It's really fascinating. For some episodes, particularly, 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.120 I can be I can remember exactly where I was 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:34.400 like in my life when we recorded that, and it can't. 0:02:34.560 --> 0:02:37.760 When you listen back. It can be very eye opening 0:02:37.800 --> 0:02:42.480 in some ways and also kind of nostalgic in some ways, 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:46.160 like oh, you didn't things things were coming and you 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:50.280 didn't realize. But also, you know, we've learned a lot. 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:53.959 I've learned a lot, at least I continue to learn 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:58.679 a lot as we're sharing. So it is really interestingsolutely Yeah. 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.320 Yeah, like a like a grainy photograph, but we have 0:03:02.600 --> 0:03:08.840 high quality audio of it. Yes, but okay, we're getting 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:11.079 away from the bread fruit. We should we should get 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:13.720 back to the bread fruit and let former Annie and 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:25.480 Lauren take it away. 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:28.840 Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm Annie Reach. 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.680 And I'm Lorn vocal Bomb, and today we're talking about 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:35.320 the bread fruit. Yeah, which is neither a bread nor No, 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.119 it is a fruit. Well, it's a bundle of flowers. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:41.200 It's a lot of things that you eat, a bundle 0:03:41.200 --> 0:03:45.240 of flowers that you eat. I hope that clears everything up, everybody. 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:48.280 The end of the episode, I have never had bread fruit. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:50.200 This is one that angry people will write about, like, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.520 I can't believe you've never had it. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.720 Yeah, I've never I've never had it either, So send 0:03:54.800 --> 0:03:56.280 send away those angry emails. 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:57.560 Actually, please don't. 0:04:00.160 --> 0:04:02.400 We will have to rectify this at the first opportunity 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:06.600 because it sounds amazing and the story of it is fascinating. 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:10.800 Our sister podcast Stuff you missed in history class, did 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.840 an episode on it a long time ago in a 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:19.479 podcast booth far far away or in Buckhead? Yeah, way 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.960 back way back when Katie and Sarah I think are 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:23.560 the hosts. 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:28.440 Oh wow, really, yeah, that was a long podcast away, 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:30.640 and How. 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.360 Stuff Works even has a small article about it, which 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.880 it would not surprise us if ridiculous history eventually covered. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.680 Oh yeah, because it's a little bit ridiculous, it is. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.760 They should if they don't invite us to a cameo 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:47.960 on that. Oh, maybe I have some podcast beef. I 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.640 keep going like, hey, guys, why haven't you invited me 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.120 back yet? And they're like, oh, we thought you were busy. 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.880 Oh man, the judgmental look on your face. I can't 0:04:57.920 --> 0:05:01.680 believe they haven't quilled under the pressure. 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:04.480 Anyway. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:09.000 Anyway, Yes, the breadfruit? What is it? How it knew? 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.040 How it goodness? Oh, that's a very big question, it is. 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:13.880 It's a very big question for a very big fruit. 0:05:14.160 --> 0:05:17.240 The breadfruit is the fruit of a tropical flowering tree, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.920 Artocarpus altilis, and it's related to the mulberry and jackfruit. 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.719 There are a couple other species under Artocarpus and a 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.239 couple hundred cultivars of bread fruit. But basically the trees 0:05:29.320 --> 0:05:32.040 range from like twenty to eighty ish feet in height 0:05:32.120 --> 0:05:34.719 that's about six to twenty four meters. They've got glossy 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.840 green leaves. The flowers are tiny, tiny, tiny and come 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.800 in these dense clusters attached to a spongy sort of 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:45.080 spear or rod or ball. These flower spears tend to 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:47.479 look a little bit like corn dogs, or like ears 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:49.200 of corn that have had all the kernels taken off, 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:52.240 or like weird, slightly oblong golf balls. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:56.360 Yeah, I have somebody somewhere. It's one of those stories 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:57.760 that was told to me so long ago that I 0:05:57.800 --> 0:05:59.560 can't even remember who told it to me or who 0:05:59.560 --> 0:06:01.719 it was a bad but I know somewhere in my 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:06.880 past somebody thought, like a kid thought those little stalkspeer 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:08.919 things with the corn dog looking things on the end. 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.880 He thought they were corn dogs and like, oh no, 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.480 baked one up. He thought they grew in fields when 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:16.760 to eat them, and was in for a shock. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:20.960 That's that's amazing it is. Well, luckily they're non toxic. 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.760 So yeah, and it's a memory that to vaguely recall 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.159 in the middle of a podcast that's delightful. 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.039 Both male and female flowers grow on these same trees, 0:06:32.120 --> 0:06:35.520 and the female ones will develop as this cluster of 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:41.080 thousands of flowers into a single compound fruit, sort of 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:44.039 like the pineapple. If y'all remember that episode like. As 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:47.440 they grow, all the flowers fuse together and form the 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:50.400 part of the bread fruit that is eaten. The base 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:53.360 of each flower fuses together to form the rind, and 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:56.120 the resulting fruit looks like a like a spiny or 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:00.560 lumpy kind of yellow green ball or oval that can 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:03.320 range in size and shape from something like a baseball 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:04.960 to something like a human lung. 0:07:05.400 --> 0:07:08.600 Ah. That's what I like to picture when I think 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:15.960 about fruit, human lung. Yeah. The breadfruit is also sometimes 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:21.280 known as the tropical potato and is honestly fascinating. One 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:23.040 of the interesting things about it is that you can 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.280 eat it at any point. When it's immature, it has 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:30.000 a flavor similar to artichoke carts. The immature fruit can 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:33.480 replace vegetables and a recipe, and are often pickled or boiled. 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.800 The mature, unripe fruit can replace potatoes and recipes steen 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:39.000 baked or boiled. The flavor at that point is something 0:07:39.000 --> 0:07:42.560 between a potato and a plantain, but as it ripens, 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.360 the texture grows more and more custard like and can 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.440 be enjoyed raw. Kind of reminds me of Durian, which 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:49.160 we do have. 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:53.560 We're just oh yeah, yeah, we're waiting for the right 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:58.520 time and place. We are outdoor place. Yes, yeah, it 0:07:58.520 --> 0:08:00.800 can be enjoyed raw or cooked once it's ripe. It 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:02.920 is also used in It's frequently eaten rob but it's 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:05.680 also used in bake goods and other desserts. And yes, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:08.800 I have heard it described as like a Durian and texture, 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:15.240 but not so garlic funky. 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.880 Not so Durian into flavor. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:19.960 Yeah, it's sort of just nice and sweet, maybe a 0:08:20.000 --> 0:08:22.040 little bit tart, like maybe a little bit of pineapple 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:24.320 kind of flavor in there somewhere. M m. Yeah. 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:29.080 Once ripe, it does rot fairly quickly, and researchers are 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:31.800 looking in two ways to extend its shelf life by 0:08:32.080 --> 0:08:33.240 drying and shredding it. 0:08:33.760 --> 0:08:37.880 Some varieties have seeds that are edible and apparently similar 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:41.040 in flavor and texture to chestnuts, that can be roasted 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.520 or boiled or ground to make a sort of meal. 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.240 H And the male flowers themselves as corn dog things, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.199 are sometimes candied and eaten. 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:54.360 Those corn dog things, you know, those things. 0:08:54.360 --> 0:08:54.920 Those things. 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.360 Despite sharing the texture of a potato and having a 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:01.040 high carb count, the breadfruit itself is gluten free, just. 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:04.360 About all fruit, vegetables and grains except for wheat, barley, 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:07.719 and rye, and some specific things like glutinous rice are 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:11.120 gluten free, and. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:17.000 Boy howdy they nutritious, calcium, copper, fibery stuff, iron, magnesium, nyasin, 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:20.880 omega three, omega six, phosphorus, potassium, thiamine, vitamins A and C. 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.560 A mere half cup will give you five to ten 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.680 percent of your recommended daily allowance of protein and twenty 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:31.600 five percent of your RDA of fiber, and Hawaii's Breadfruit 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:35.720 Institute of the National Tropical Botanical Garden list multitudes of 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:43.640 ways to eat breadfruit in cashles in that type of potato, salad, curries, pancakes, breads, fritters, chowders, dips, 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:48.560 a veggie burger, patai, chips, nachos, alongside corn beef in 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:51.920 beverages in flunds. You can also put it through a 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:54.319 food processor to make a dough substitute. 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:57.960 Ah Yeah. Dried and ground breadfruit flour can be used 0:09:57.960 --> 0:10:00.480 to make everything from like tortillas to bread pet trees, 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.480 and it of course can also be fermented into alcoholic 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.000 beverages of various kinds. 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.640 Of course, and if you aren't impressed already, the breadfruit 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.840 has other uses. The male breadfruit and leaves are a 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:17.480 great insect repellent when burned. The sap is great for 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:20.920 calking and as a chewing gum. I'm very intrigued by that. 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.400 Oh yeah, it's like a latex kind of stuff. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.240 Oh. The bark can be used as a fabric, and 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.679 fallen fruits and leaves can be used in animal feed. 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:32.560 So lots of things, lots of things going for the 0:10:32.559 --> 0:10:33.079 bread fruit. 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:34.080 Absolutely. 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.560 If we look at some numbers, a bread fruit tree 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.280 can produce an annual fifty to one and fifty fruits, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:44.559 which is one of the highest yielding crops in existence. 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.920 The fruit itself can weigh up to twelve pounds about 0:10:47.920 --> 0:10:50.200 five and a half kilograms, while the tree can reach 0:10:50.240 --> 0:10:52.640 eighty five feet or twenty six meters. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:55.880 Or even bigger. I've read all kinds of reports about then. 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:57.840 They can last a long time and get pretty big, 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:02.160 and they are self propagating. You don't need seeds in 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.320 order to grow new breadfruit. New saplings grow up from 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.120 shoots off of established trees. It will take a few 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.640 years for a new tree to mature, but once it does, 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:14.240 it will fruit four dozens or even hundreds of years yep. 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:18.040 And breadfruit is grown in over ninety different countries and 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:21.040 in the Pacific Islands, more breadfruit or grown per hector 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.080 than rice, wheat and corn. 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:25.360 Dang, dang. 0:11:25.480 --> 0:11:29.880 Indeed, got so excited, I gesticulated and hit the mic stand. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.079 It's that level of excitement in here, folks, it really is. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.160 We're going to get into some of the history of 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:41.280 the breadfruit, including a famous mutiny. 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.720 Yeah, but first. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.000 We're going to get into a quick break for a 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:45.559 word from our. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:12:01.240 Sponsor, and we're back. Thank you sponsored, Yes, thank you. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.880 Breadfruit originated about three thousand years ago in the area 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.800 that is now New Guinea. In three hundred CE, breadfruit, 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.000 along with coconuts, sweet ptatoes, ginger and bananas, arrived to 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:18.200 Hawaii via Polynesia as a canoe fruit. Ancient Hawaiians believed 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.000 the breadfruit to be sacred. They called it ulu. They 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.720 planted so many breadfruit trees that some grobes could feed 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:30.280 seventy five thousand people. The plant provided raw materials like wood, obviously, 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:34.040 but also was used for crafts and medicine, and breadfruit 0:12:34.080 --> 0:12:37.400 remains a culturally significant staple food in the South Pacific. 0:12:37.600 --> 0:12:41.679 Oh yeah, yeah, uru are still Hawaiian terms for the 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:43.280 fruit yesterday. 0:12:44.280 --> 0:12:48.120 And the French Polynesians have a legend about a famine 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.800 that occurred. A family of six was living in a 0:12:50.840 --> 0:12:55.360 cave and were desperately hungry enough so they were eating ferns. 0:12:55.920 --> 0:12:59.160 The father, miserable at watching his family wasting away, buried 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:02.440 himself in the cave, promising his wife he'd transform into 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:06.320 a tree bearing fruit to feed his family. Sure enough, 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.840 when his wife woke up the next morning, there was 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:12.440 a breadfruit tree, an ur tree. That area is now 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.400 sometimes referred to as tua Uru, the Valley of the Breadfruit. 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:20.559 Some locals give another name, the Tree of Life. It 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.400 spread throughout the Pacific from New Guinea, and when the 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.880 Europeans discovered it in the fifteen hundreds, they were amazed 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.240 at the bread like texture and smell of versted breadfruit, 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:32.280 hence the name. 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.480 Pretty Much all of the European languages use a word 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:37.480 for bread in their name for breadfruit. 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:44.040 So about that mutiny, Yeah, Well, first, before we get there, 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:48.280 along comes Captain James Cook. In seventeen ninety six, After 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:51.800 making a landfall into Heiti, Cook and his companion Sir 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:55.320 Joseph Banks stumbled upon breadfruit and realized that it could 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.840 be a useful crop in places with similar tropical climates 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:04.760 aka colonies that were producing sugarcane. Yeah. Banks thought the 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.800 prolific trees would be an excellent and inexpensive source of 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:12.080 food for the enslaved peoples living in the Caribbean colonies yeah, 0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:15.080 that were making this whole sugar cacane thing happen. So 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:18.400 convinced was Banks of the value of his idea that 0:14:18.440 --> 0:14:21.400 he presented it to King George the Third saying quote 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.600 regarding food, if a man planted ten bread fruit trees 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:26.920 in his life, he would completely fulfill his duty to 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:31.240 his own as well as future generations. He requested a 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.000 special expedition with the sole purpose of retrieving bread fruit 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:38.520 trees and replanting them in the Caribbean end of noe. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.520 Banks was the president of the Royal Society at the 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.880 time and a patron of Q Gardens. 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:46.720 He's sometimes credited with being one of the architects of globalization. 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:51.680 So big, big dude, yeah, big deal, big historical fellow. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:54.800 His request was granted. 0:14:54.840 --> 0:14:59.200 Hazzah, perhaps not not Hazza. 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:04.640 Not Tissa. William Bly was made Captain of the HMS 0:15:04.720 --> 0:15:07.720 bounty in seventeen eighty seven and his mission from the 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.520 Royal Crown to transport one thousand to Heitian breadfruit trees 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:13.840 to the Caribbean with the intention of using the highly 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:18.480 nutritious and energy boosting food to feed British slaves. But 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:24.000 all was not well on the bounty. One journal described 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:27.680 Bly as brutal. It took ten months for the mostly 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:31.360 healthy crew to arrive to Tahiti, behind schedule enough that 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:35.320 they missed their window for transplanting the trees, so they 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:38.920 had to hang around for another five months. A lot 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:43.080 of the crew, of course, found themselves Tahitian mistresses. When 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.360 the time came to leave. A lot of the crew 0:15:45.440 --> 0:15:48.720 wasn't on board, but Bly made them get on board, 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.200 literally unaware or uncaring of the resentment of his crew. 0:15:53.200 --> 0:15:55.120 And some stories say that part of the problem was 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:57.960 that Bly was rationing out a short supply of water 0:15:58.080 --> 0:16:00.960 on board and like favoring the trees over the crewmen, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.400 which led to not less resentment. 0:16:04.960 --> 0:16:09.960 Oh sure, I can imagine. Yeah, so the crew mutinied. 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:13.480 Several men armed with bannets broke into blies cabin one night, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.680 binding his hands behind his back and bringing him up 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:18.680 to the deck wearing only a shirt. Well, I demanded 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.720 to know the reason behind the mutiny, and the only 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.320 response he got was I have been in hell for 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:31.160 the last fortnight, sir, in hell. Oh okay, of note 0:16:31.160 --> 0:16:34.040 that Marlon Brando played that guy in the nineteen sixty 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:37.880 two movie about this, and I really missed an opportunity 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.560 to do a Marlon Brando accent. That is for the 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:43.440 best test for everything. I would have had fun, but 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:46.320 no one else would have had fun. Oh yeah, Well, 0:16:46.560 --> 0:16:49.120 I could admit what accents I can do and can't do, 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:51.640 and this is really not an accent, it's an impersonation. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.480 But either way it would have been a failure for 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:57.240 all to hear. 0:16:57.600 --> 0:16:59.960 You can check out the film Mutiny on the Bound. 0:17:00.440 --> 0:17:02.760 You can if you want to hear it for yourself, 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:04.400 not through the filter of Annie. 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:08.840 Yes, you absolutely can do that. Bly and eighteen others 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:11.960 were forced overboard in a long boat. The mutineers sent 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.639 them on their way with some pork biscuits, water, and 0:17:14.760 --> 0:17:18.679 six quarts of rum. All thousand trees went into the 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:22.520 water twist. Oh yeah, I guess they were pretty mad 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:23.600 about that water rationing thing. 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:27.120 If it's true, with like screw these trees were going 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:27.880 back to Tahiti. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.639 Take that trees. And they did, and they did. But 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:33.960 Bly and his mini crew were wiy and in what 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:36.960 is called one of the greatest feats of seamanship of 0:17:37.119 --> 0:17:41.040 all time, they managed to navigate their ship through mostly 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.920 uncharted water without a map or a compass to timor 0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.080 making an early stop at one of the friendly islands, 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:50.199 that's what they were called. Not that the islands like 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:53.200 were friendly, friendly because they weren't. No, because the indigenous 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:56.000 peoples chased them away with rocks and killed one man. 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:59.359 The crew decided to make minimal stops after that, and 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:03.159 food was strictly rationed. Two ounces of biscuit in a 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.720 little water a day, oh now and then they got 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.160 some pork every now and then they got some room. 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:12.080 The journey took forty seven days heavy storms, and they 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:15.879 covered six seven hundred and one kilometers or four one 0:18:15.960 --> 0:18:19.560 hundred and sixty four miles. They stopped at Kopang, starving, 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:22.800 sleep deprived, and that's where three of the crew died 0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:25.800 of fever. Oh like, not on the whole journey. They 0:18:25.840 --> 0:18:30.800 made it there, yeah, all. From there they made their 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:34.560 way back to Britain. And commissioned a second trip, this 0:18:34.680 --> 0:18:38.959 time on the HMS Providence. No mutinies were had, and 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:43.680 five years after his first mission failed, fly succeeded, or 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.679 mostly many of the two thousand bread fruit trees on 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:50.040 the ship died due to flies, cold, or the quote 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:55.240 unwholesomeness of sea air. Six hundred and seventy eight bread 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:57.920 fruit trees arrived in the West Indies, and a few 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:01.000 of those trees, first planted two hundred years ago in Jamaica, 0:19:01.240 --> 0:19:05.240 bear fruit to this day. Oh yeah. The locals did 0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.640 resist it at first, though, eating it only when other 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:10.679 options were limited. It took forty years for them to 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:12.720 develop a taste for the breadfruit. 0:19:12.920 --> 0:19:16.600 Yeah, the population of Jamaica fed it to pigs at first. 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:21.040 To be fair, the mature but unripe fruit is kind 0:19:21.040 --> 0:19:24.359 of bland and can be described as like mealy, and 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:26.840 it can go pretty mushy if you overcook it. Once 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.280 you figure out how to deal with it. Though apparently 0:19:29.320 --> 0:19:31.679 it's great, it sounds amazing. 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.760 These days, scientists think the breadfruit could be useful in 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:39.480 the fight against hunger. After all, there is a tradition 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.320 in parts of Polynesia to plant a breadfruit tree when 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:45.119 a child is born to guarantee that they won't go hungry. 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:45.600 Oh. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:48.840 Since the nineteen eighties, a researcher out of Hawaii National 0:19:48.920 --> 0:19:53.480 Tropical Botanical Garden in DBG, Diane Ragone, followed the DNA 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:56.320 bread combs of breadfruit all the way back to parasite breadfruit. 0:19:56.800 --> 0:20:00.760 I mean the first they call it eve up bread 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:06.680 for Eve. I'm going to try to get as many 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:09.600 parasite eve references in this show as I can. 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:13.879 I so far you are succeeding. Who knew you're really 0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:14.280 doing it? 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:16.800 Thank you, Laura, You're welcome. 0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:20.720 In two thousand and three, Ragon helped found the Breadfruit 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:24.639 Institute at the National Tropical Botanical Garden and yeah, the 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.000 institute is partnered with the charity Alliance to End Hunger 0:20:28.080 --> 0:20:30.480 to bring the breadfruit to areas in need. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.640 Scientists are also working to find the species that contains 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.359 the most protein and also the ones that are most 0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.600 accepting assault as sea levels rise. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.639 Ragon and her fellow researchers say that this one cultivar 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:46.560 from Samoa surpasses soybeans in terms of protein content and quality. 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.240 And yeah, they're hoping that this kind of research could 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:52.240 help places like Hawaii, that currently import over half of 0:20:52.240 --> 0:20:54.680 their food become more self sustainable. 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.359 In two thousand and nine, Josh Schneider launched an initiative 0:20:58.359 --> 0:21:01.200 to put breadfruit trees all over the world called Global Breadfruit. 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.840 The group put fourteen thousand trees in ten different countries. 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.480 In twenty sixteen, a Costa Rican native, Diana Shavez, took 0:21:08.560 --> 0:21:10.640 some of the bread fruit from the trees the organization 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:12.960 planted and started making chips out of the fruit and 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:14.320 putting them in grocery stores. 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.120 Yeah, like, like, fried chips are one of the most 0:21:17.160 --> 0:21:19.760 popular ways to eat. I mean, once you fry anything, 0:21:19.800 --> 0:21:22.600 it's pretty great. But apparently they're super delicious. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.960 Apparently she gets a lot of requests for them now, Yeah, 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:26.680 at first she had trouble selling them, and now people 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:27.760 are like, where are the chips? 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:29.040 More breadfroat chips? 0:21:29.680 --> 0:21:31.280 I need them. 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:34.679 In twenty ten, the Breadfruit Institute partnered with the Global 0:21:34.760 --> 0:21:39.000 Hunger Initiative, which distributed ninety thousand trees to forty countries 0:21:39.040 --> 0:21:42.399 over the next five years, and in twenty sixteen, the 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:46.040 FDA ruled bread fruit flour safe for consumption here in 0:21:46.040 --> 0:21:48.480 the United States, so you might see it out there 0:21:48.520 --> 0:21:50.640 and you're a gluten free baking isisle. 0:21:51.680 --> 0:21:58.760 You just might. So it's had a really fascinating just 0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:03.520 story behind the fruit. Yeah, I guess. 0:22:03.640 --> 0:22:05.080 It's a little bit more hopeful than a lot of 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:07.399 the tropical fruits that we discuss on this show. 0:22:07.640 --> 0:22:08.439 This is true. 0:22:08.680 --> 0:22:11.679 Yeah, And we've got a little bit more left in 0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.359 this episode today, but first we've got one more quick 0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.320 break for a word from our sponsor. 0:22:31.200 --> 0:22:34.639 And that brings us to the end of this classic episode. 0:22:34.640 --> 0:22:38.199 As always, we hope that you enjoyed this rerun as 0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:40.239 much as we enjoyed bringing it back to you. 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.600 Absolutely, and so you know, if you're confused about why 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:48.240 we're here and not former Annie and Lauren, it's because, Bye, 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:50.520 we have a little bit more for you. 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