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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Worldwide Football.

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Speaker 2: Pants, Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Roosevelt stepping in for one day in the

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Speaker 2: host chair for Dan Hansas in a room filled with

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Speaker 2: one hero, Mark Sessler. That room being at Chris Westling's

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Speaker 2: podcast studio.

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Speaker 3: But Mark, yeah, it's uh, you know, it's it's always

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Speaker 3: tough not to have Dan with us, but it's like,

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Speaker 3: I think the toughest part is again I get put

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Speaker 3: in this seat where I'm like, my body feels awkward.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to do, but I'm.

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Speaker 1: Body looks good. Your body looks good.

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Speaker 2: All of our bodies, considering we're getting older, is looking good.

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Speaker 2: I can say the same about our guests, and it's rare.

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Speaker 2: We just go right into it. But this is an

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Speaker 2: important man at our company. He's so important. Actually, he

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Speaker 2: insisted that Dan and him not do the show together,

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Speaker 2: and I thought, we thought, like, that's that's like a

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Speaker 2: lot to ask, that's kind of diva behavior. But he's

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Speaker 2: that important at draft time that we're gonna welcome in

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah move the sticks.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Daniel for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, this is Jariffolo Colin call him

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Speaker 4: back later. Two things. Number one. I had two conditions

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Speaker 4: for me to come on this show. One, Dan's not there,

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Speaker 4: that's a given, right he's there, I'm out. That's done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The other condition was, I said, here's the thing, I'll

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Speaker 4: do it. First of all, I love Sessler, so I'm

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Speaker 4: happy to do it for Cessler if I'm gonna If

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna work with Greg, though, I need him to

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Speaker 4: dress up like Fonzie. If he dresses like Phonsie.

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Speaker 1: It's funny, then I'll come on.

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Speaker 2: I just like kind of took off my jacket was

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Speaker 2: a little hot in here, and I thought, what are

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Speaker 2: the odds that Jeremiah doesn't mention this almost right away?

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Speaker 2: So you've made me self conscious? And this is why

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Speaker 2: we're getting such big numbers on YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Is action like this? You can actually watch me now, says.

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Speaker 4: Anybody watching you even know who FANSI.

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Speaker 3: Is not at this point, not at this point. And

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Speaker 3: I feel like I've escaped your eyre for a decade plus.

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Speaker 3: And I appreciate that it feels sincere. But you have

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Speaker 3: incredible power to remove Dan from the seat and also

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Speaker 3: alter Greg's wardrobe. That these things are not easily done.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just lost money on the fact that that's

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Speaker 4: not a leather jacket that he draped over his white shirt,

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Speaker 4: So I lost that bet.

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Speaker 1: It's d Day's time of year.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you're thrilled because we're taping this Thursday, exactly

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Speaker 2: one week away from the NFL Draft. It's a long

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Speaker 2: process here for Jeremi. I mean no, no, it's crying

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Speaker 2: for you here. But you switched straight from the Chargers

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Speaker 2: into cranking these players out, and now you're only one

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Speaker 2: week away. What do you what is your post draft plan?

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Speaker 2: You have to work for one more week and then

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Speaker 2: what happened.

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Speaker 4: I've shortened it down. I used to the draft would

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Speaker 4: end and then literally would work the next day and

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Speaker 4: work that entire week. We would do Path to the Draft,

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Speaker 4: very ironically named after the draft for a week for

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Speaker 4: a week afterwards, and then over the years that got

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Speaker 4: shortened till okay, just you can just work till Thursday.

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Speaker 4: We'll give you that Friday off and then you're free

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Speaker 4: to the point now where I only have to do

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Speaker 4: show and then that's it, so I get a little

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Speaker 4: you guys know with kids, like I still have two

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Speaker 4: What do you do after? I'm like nothing, I'm just

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Speaker 3: I think what you should tell us at least cook

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Speaker 3: up some sort of misadventure that makes us think. You know,

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Speaker 3: Daniel jeremis at the forefront of a Personal Experience post.

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Speaker 2: He's listening to eighties R and B. He's watching the

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Speaker 2: padres nothing that could make him happier. I'm going to

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Speaker 2: start my questions here, DJ by putting you in the

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Speaker 2: team you would take brock Bauers for because the closer

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Speaker 2: some of these teams, you know, they they sprinkle around interest.

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Speaker 2: Maybe someday when the kids are older, DJ Willy will

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Speaker 2: be working for a team.

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Speaker 1: Which team are you taking Bowers with?

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Speaker 4: This is gonna mean, this is saying this as somebody

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Speaker 4: I think on my list somewhere around there. The first

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Speaker 4: for you know, different reasons. There's not needs for some

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Speaker 4: have you know, you know, golly you've got if you're

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Speaker 4: if you're picking right before them. The New Orleans Saints

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Speaker 4: Like I never thought in a million years in that

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Speaker 4: And I had them touching each other on my list,

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Speaker 4: And then it comes down to, well, if it's Bowers

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Speaker 4: So when I stop looking at him strictly as just

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Speaker 3: Jets interesting, you know, I found it enjoyable and intriguing

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Speaker 3: to watch you and Mel Kuiper in you know, headshots

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Speaker 3: I grew up Mel Kuiper, we all did, like, so

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Speaker 4: So he's the guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like, I mean, at this point,

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Speaker 3: I when I watch only one player, because you guys

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Speaker 4: So here's the here's the fascinating part about that. And

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Speaker 4: first of all, I'm glad you brought that up about

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Speaker 4: Mel because I think you know he's got the voice,

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Speaker 4: I think people need to put a little bit more

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Speaker 4: It's one thing that I've learned, you know, obviously from

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Speaker 4: You can't fake it.

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Speaker 3: Listen, listen to people.

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Speaker 4: When they're talking about players, and when you hear people

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Speaker 4: get tossed around that I can pick up a you know,

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Speaker 2: He we we do fake it, Daniel, It's fine, but

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Speaker 2: the show is doing.

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Speaker 4: The people won't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the whole.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, what is the huge difference between Fashanu Fuaga

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Speaker 4: But I did want to make that point about mel

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Speaker 4: outside of that, did Pennix So Mark, I have Penix

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Speaker 4: as I think my thirty fourth rated player, but I

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Speaker 4: and so I try to explain it the best of

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Speaker 4: some common sense here and this if we're going to

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Speaker 4: all agree, is we I'm sure we do. The quarterback

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Speaker 4: I couldn't get by this point of saying, yes, he's

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Speaker 4: No, I know, Mark, Look you your place is secure

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Speaker 4: he's more physical. I've seen him throw with anticipation. I've

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Speaker 4: ended up with Drake May over jayde and Daniels. Sorry

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Speaker 2: I think it's the most fascinating thing in the draft,

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Speaker 3: More than more than you would want.

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Speaker 2: But he also has a consistency where every single game,

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't want to work with that? And you love him

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Speaker 2: But to me, Daniels is extremely hard to evaluate because

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Speaker 4: I think was was a Holodi that broke his leg.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Helodi who hit him at RG

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Speaker 2: Right, it may take shots too, to be fair, but

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Speaker 4: So you know, that's that's what I struggle with a

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Speaker 4: like I've I was texting with a Ben Kurd about it.

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Speaker 4: it's fun discussion. But you know, I try to communicate

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Speaker 3: I mean, this draft has it's every draft has their

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Speaker 2: And I listened to that weeks ago DD because I'm

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Speaker 4: When he's out there working on the motorbike. He likes

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Speaker 4: No, And that's why, uh, I was curious on that

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Speaker 4: it was. It was a healthy exercise, which to me

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Speaker 4: Each yeir nah, just ebbs and flows. I mean like

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Speaker 4: The one thing that we're going to see consistently is

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Speaker 4: they'll be you know, they'll be receivers every year, no

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Speaker 2: explain to me why he's not like a potential top

434
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 2: ten pick, because he is a guy that I that

435
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,760
Speaker 2: you watch and it's like he wins every snap, it

436
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,880
Speaker 2: seems like, and the more the more, the more you watch,

437
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: it's just like he wins and wins and wins and

438
00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:20,680
Speaker 2: wins and wins, and you can just see that working.

439
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 2: Like he seemed next level and he seemed like a

440
00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: guy that I was like, is this one of those

441
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 2: guys teams aren't talking about because they all want to

442
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,639
Speaker 2: take him because they love him? Probably, but probably I

443
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 2: don't know if that really happens. Why Why wouldn't he

444
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 2: be higher? Because he seems like a really exciting guy

445
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 2: along with Murphy.

446
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,560
Speaker 1: Murphy's great too.

447
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a really good player, right to me, Like,

448
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 4: if you told me that he was going to be

449
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 4: a top fifteen pick, I wouldn't I wouldn't bat an

450
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,760
Speaker 4: eye on at that at all. And he's part of

451
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,520
Speaker 4: that discussion and rightfully so to bring him up that

452
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 4: I think you'll see him get raised up now in

453
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 4: terms of like what I thought of him, like the

454
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,439
Speaker 4: concerns I had. I thought he was unbelievable with his hands,

455
00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,640
Speaker 4: like he has like it's like a car bomb goes

456
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: off when he hits guys.

457
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: He has got violent jolting that translated.

458
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: That's awesome, it's really good.

459
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 4: But you if you're not a force generator from the ground,

460
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 4: that's a little more difficult against NFL players. So In

461
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 4: other words, if you're generating, if you're if you're twisting

462
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,320
Speaker 4: guys and torking guys and turning guys in college, you

463
00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 4: can do that a lot easier than it is to

464
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040
Speaker 4: do that against a twenty eight year old man up here.

465
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: If you're gonna beat, if you're gonna beat really good

466
00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,720
Speaker 4: NFL offensive lineman, you have to beat him with leverage

467
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 4: and roll your hips and have your legs underneath you

468
00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 4: and win from kind of the floor up, not just

469
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,879
Speaker 4: the hands. So that to me is, you know, one

470
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 4: of the reasons why there was a separation there with

471
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 4: him and Murphy.

472
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 3: I know it comes as no surprise to you that

473
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 3: Greg and I we've kind of cornered the market when

474
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 3: it comes to studying offensive lineman, what they should be

475
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: doing on the field, how they react, the physical nature

476
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 3: of it. But I found it interesting, he said that executives

477
00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: kept mentioning to you over and over Graham Barton, for

478
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 3: his versatility, plays all like that. This guy sounds like

479
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,600
Speaker 3: he could go anywhere and be of a meet at service.

480
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,840
Speaker 4: Well, he's played He's played center as a seventeen year

481
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,239
Speaker 4: old freshman at Duke and played it well. And then

482
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 4: he's played left tackle. If you can play center and

483
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 4: left tackle, you can play left and right guard, so

484
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 4: you're a five position flex guy. And he's incredibly intelligent.

485
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 4: So it's he's one of those guys who he's good

486
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 4: on tape at tackle, but you're like, he's not. That's

487
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,800
Speaker 4: not probably his best position. He's going to be better

488
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,400
Speaker 4: served to get inside at center. But the tape is good,

489
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 4: so you get good tape. Then the testing was outstanding.

490
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: He had a great workout, and then, as you can imagine,

491
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,159
Speaker 4: when you have those two things going for you and

492
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 4: your Duke level smart you get in and meet with

493
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 4: these teams so many of which which I think is

494
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 4: a big theme in this draft, and I think you

495
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 4: know something to keep an eye on going forward, is

496
00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 4: this league is so full of young starting quarterbacks and

497
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 4: we're going to add a handful more this year, so

498
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 4: teams are trying to do everything they can to serve

499
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: those young quarterbacks. Having a freaking genius center that he

500
00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 4: can play with for a long extended period of time

501
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 4: is a nice quality to have.

502
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 2: That almost sounds like uh landon Dickerson coming out. Other

503
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: than I know people were concerned with the injuries but

504
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: just like that was when you were you were very

505
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: high on they'll give you your props coming in and

506
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: that was absolutely right. He's turned into a bargain. They

507
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: just gave him a ton of ton of money. That

508
00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,239
Speaker 2: actually makes me think, do you have some what are

509
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: some picks or maybe just one like one one uh

510
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 2: selection over the years. Take one of your guys that

511
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,640
Speaker 2: you're like at that you're proud of that, yet you

512
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 2: want to stick your chest out, and then to balance

513
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 2: it out one that you wish you had.

514
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 4: Bounce a wish fifty whiffs the hits because.

515
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 1: You could you remember him better? You mean, yeah, yeah.

516
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,560
Speaker 4: Because you're just like, oh gosh, but I mean the

517
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,359
Speaker 4: the hits never make their way to the front of

518
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: your brain. Those were always like lodge somewhere in the

519
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 4: in the back of your brain. I always just did

520
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,719
Speaker 4: a fallback with Kelsey because that wasn't you know, that

521
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 4: was a fun one. But I mean, that's like the

522
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 4: greatest example of scouting to me of what scouting is

523
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: is that you're going to come out, Okay, you really

524
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 4: want to come out to the front of the stage.

525
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: As one of the people who evaluated Jason Kelcey and

526
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 4: we took him, what was he the sixth round and

527
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: he's going to go into the Hall of Fame and

528
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: you know, one of the best centers of all time.

529
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 4: You want to beat your chest on that, or do

530
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,240
Speaker 4: you want to remind everybody that we took Danny Watkins

531
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,919
Speaker 4: in the first round of that same draft.

532
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 2: Well that's like I think, Scott piol you got to

533
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 2: keep keeping his on his office.

534
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: There were some guys from tight End Stakowski.

535
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 2: I believe they took a round in front of Tom Brady,

536
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 2: so he always kept that framed on his desk as

537
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: a reminder of like, you're not as smart as you think.

538
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah no, but like you know, the fun ones like

539
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 4: Geno Stone, I could not want. He was watching him

540
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: coming out and I went back and I was watching

541
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 4: some of the old draft stuff and that was my

542
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: kind when it got picked him, Like I didn't, I

543
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 4: don't understand it. Like I I him like a he

544
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 4: was like a third round grade. And I would talk.

545
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 4: All I do is talk to gms and buddies around

546
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 4: the league, and I'm like, nobody liked the guy, and

547
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, what am I missing? Like he's just a

548
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 4: good player, gets his hands on the football. He's super instinctive, smart, tough.

549
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 4: And then the Ravens I think took him in like

550
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 4: the sixth or seventh round, and I think he just

551
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 4: got paid a nice chunk of money in free agency.

552
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 4: He's been a really, really good player. So those are

553
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,160
Speaker 4: the those are kind of the fun ones. But then

554
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 4: for every one of those, there's ten where you're like, oh, man, like,

555
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: I mean, look like, I didn't trailing Burks. I thought

556
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,119
Speaker 4: was a really good player. I didn't necessarily think, you know,

557
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 4: he was going to be an All Pro, but I

558
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: thought he'd be doing more than he's doing.

559
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Now, we'll let you go in a minute. Here. There's

560
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 3: so much wide receiver talk, but there's one guy, and

561
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 3: I know that he had like concerns with whether it's

562
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 3: off the field or what happened on the field after

563
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 3: a game. But yeah, Jermaine Burton from Alabama. Like watching him.

564
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,239
Speaker 3: I know, because of all that other stuff, maybe some

565
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: teams don't even have him on their board, but I

566
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: loved what I saw, Like, is it is this person

567
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: like draftable or is it gonna be what happens? What's

568
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 3: the destiny here?

569
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 4: There's a lot of ability there. Yeah, No. I mean, look,

570
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 4: everybody's it's all different, right, everybody has their things. I

571
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 4: don't ever jump into that stuff. There's no win for

572
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 4: me and doing that, So I just say he's he's

573
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 4: got to have a lot of ability. But that's why

574
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of a challenge in terms of

575
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 4: the stuff you learn, you know, talking to everybody and

576
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 4: doing all the homework versus the pure Like in some ways, Mark,

577
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 4: like what you're doing is just a pure scouting, you know,

578
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 4: like this would be an example of that because you

579
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 4: did it. Remember you asked me about George Pickens, the

580
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 4: George Pickens yere Greg did.

581
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

582
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 4: Greg's like, what am I missing? This guy's a freak.

583
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 4: I'm like, I know, it's not that the tape is great,

584
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 4: but everybody's got to figure out all the other stuff.

585
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: And it's sort of what Pickens is.

586
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: He's kind of born out on both sides of like, yeah,

587
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: the talent is the charts, but there's there's some headache there.

588
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:00,679
Speaker 1: What's up?

589
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 4: So I mean that's what I'm getting to Mark, And

590
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,360
Speaker 4: that's why, like when you're in the draft room, this

591
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: is the discussion that takes place where the area scout

592
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 4: who went into the school, got all the information. He

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: might have a lower grade on a player, and then

594
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 4: they'll give cross check assignments and the guy in in

595
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 4: the southeast or you know, other part of the country

596
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 4: is going to watch the same player, and he's like

597
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: this area scout's an idiot, Like this guy's much better

598
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 4: than that. And it's like, yeah, well you're just doing

599
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: the pure football evaluation and he's doing the whole the

600
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 4: whole picture, you know, So then you have to have

601
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: that discussion.

602
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: It makes sense.

603
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: Who's uh? And yeah, I know, I know. You got

604
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: mina times later and Move the Sticks. Everyone should check

605
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: that out. You've probably got a million things.

606
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 4: We did a home and home. We did a little

607
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 4: uh one on her podcast's coming on Move the Sticks.

608
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 4: That's nice trade.

609
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: Everyone wins.

610
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: It's the ESPN crossover.

611
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: Does she also have the same role that she doesn't

612
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 4: come on unless Dan's not on your show?

613
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: She has engaged with Dan on the show many times,

614
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: many times.

615
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: Really yeah, so he wasn't supposed to be there and

616
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 4: showed up any She.

617
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 3: Doesn't have a ten year grudge Matt, whether it's real

618
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: or fake with I.

619
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: Think it really is.

620
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 4: It might really be I think it is, it is,

621
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: it is. Do you remember what the first iteration.

622
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: Of that being, No, it goes back to like ancient Greece.

623
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 3: It's like, it's it's deep ancestry, do you.

624
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the wholesome fun of.

625
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 4: Him for dressing like an uber driver, a Lemo driver

626
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 4: or something on the very first episode.

627
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 2: That's the wholesome assassins. And now I'm now I'm Fonz.

628
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,400
Speaker 1: All right.

629
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: Last last football one for you is we just haven't

630
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 2: talked running backs, Like, who do you like? Who's your

631
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: favorite running back in this class? He thinks gonna step

632
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: in and do some fantasy damage.

633
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 4: Maybe Yeah, I like Marshall Lloyd from SC He's like

634
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 4: got the perfect running back bodies five a's two hundred

635
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: and twenty pounds. He catched the ball out of the backfield.

636
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 4: He's not bad as a past protector, so to me,

637
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 4: I'm a fan of his. I like Ray Davis from

638
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 4: Kentucky another one who's like two fifteen sturdy guy. And

639
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: then just in terms of like two guys, I think

640
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: they're going to have a roll and catch balls next year,

641
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 4: Bucky Irving can really catch it out of the backfield

642
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 4: from Oregon, who like kind of gives me a little

643
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Devin Singletary vibes coming out of college, so that would

644
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 4: be one. And then Dylan Lowby, who might he might

645
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 4: not even get drafted, he'd be a six to seventh

646
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 4: round pick, maybe even a free agent. But the kid

647
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: out of New Hampshire, he caught a bazillion balls. So like,

648
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 4: to me, I don't think it's a great running back year,

649
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 4: but you got a couple interesting guys who can kind

650
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: of be more feature backs, and then after that those

651
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 4: are a couple guys will be kind of third down

652
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 4: guys catch the ball a little bit.

653
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Speaker 2: That's why I like DJ, even though sort of on

654
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 2: some level, you're and you know this, your prospects list

655
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 2: set the tone in some ways for the rest of

656
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 2: the draftnick industrial complex out there, Like your your prospect

657
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: list has real impact. But you ask him about the

658
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 2: running backs, like that's way off a lot of those

659
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 2: consensus boards, and I like that.

660
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: DJ's thinking, yeah, you know, I was talking.

661
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 4: I talked to someone last night and we just got

662
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 4: the running backs, and it's like his top three running

663
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: back would be like my eleventh, twelfth, and thirteenth rundbacks.

664
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Speaker 4: Like it's just a weird year with that group.

665
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Speaker 2: All right, Daniel Deremia, it's your week, it's your time

666
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: of year. I'm looking forward to uh watching you round one.

667
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, be nice.

668
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: To to the rest of the guys, like, don't don't

669
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: flex so much more, you know than all them.

670
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you what, Mark, It's been great to

671
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 4: be with you as always. As always, you're absolutely the best.

672
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 4: I don't know anybody who has endured more. We talk

673
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: about players like can you overcome adversity? And then like

674
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 4: whatever's next for you in life? What you've endured, what

675
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 4: you've been through. Yeah, I think it just bodes well

676
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 4: for your success. There's a there's a grittiness, there's a callousness,

677
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 4: there's a just having been literally refined through the fire

678
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: aspect to you and what your future holds. And I

679
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 4: couldn't be more excited. Greg. We'll see next time.

680
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is why your scouting abilities tower above any

681
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 3: other humans that I can think of. Yeah.

682
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 1: A lot of misses though, too, DJ, thank you, We'll

683
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: see you next time.

684
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Speaker 4: Thanks for hit me with Herbert.

685
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: No, No, I've kind of put a little I'm waiting

686
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: till we actually have just I want to have justin

687
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 2: Herbert on the pod and ask him about that at

688
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 2: some point.

689
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: That's my dream question.

690
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 4: All right, well let me know, thanks, thanks d J,

691
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 4: Thank you you guys.

692
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Speaker 2: Bye, and yeah, as Daniel mentioned back in the day,

693
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: he was a little lower on Herbert then contensus, I'd

694
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: like to give him the business of it because well,

695
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, call in every game guy changed the franchise.

696
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: We're going to take a quick break a little different

697
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 2: schedule than normal that we just like start right off

698
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: the meet with you know, a plus guests Daniel, Jeremiah.

699
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: We will be back and we're going to actually bring

700
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: in the audience, the listeners, and we're going to get

701
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Speaker 2: some mail bag questions.

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Speaker 1: The first tick quick break.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back.

704
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Speaker 2: You know, can't beat the master exciting times here. Draft

705
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: is only one week away. We'll have you covered all

706
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: next week. We got the Mark Sessler mock draft coming up.

707
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: It's going to be like the sixth or seventh annual.

708
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 3: I think it is the sixth or seventh. And then,

709
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: like I know, the gist in the past was I

710
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: just you know, thrown a couple darts at a wall. It's

711
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: like I've been grinding the tape this time, Greg, No, Mark's.

712
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 2: Been He's been doing it, and we're we're working on

713
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 2: some extra motivation, some extra spells and whistles. We're adding

714
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 2: to the Mark draft, so that'll be exciting. And then

715
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Speaker 2: on Thursday, of course we'll recap round one. We'll we'll

716
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: have another preview show as well. We'll do some sandwiches.

717
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: But for now, we thought we would open up the

718
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 2: mail bag and get your draft questions to just try

719
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Speaker 2: to hit as many as we can before we go Mark.

720
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Speaker 2: So if you're watching on YouTube, we'll fly the questions up.

721
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: But the first one is from Daniel Hall and he asks,

722
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Speaker 2: had the Panthers given the Bears the third overall pick

723
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Speaker 2: instead of the first overall pick, do you think Justin

724
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: Fields would be their starter for twenty twenty four. I

725
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: find this interesting because it is a good reminder that

726
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 2: the Bears great moves last year, they did get lucky,

727
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 2: how bad the Panthers truly were, and you need luck

728
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 2: to build a dynasty along the way. It's like, you know,

729
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: the Chiefs needed Patrick Mahomes to fall that far to

730
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 2: make the smart move to go to go get them,

731
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Speaker 2: and they're lucky. I don't think Fields would be their starter,

732
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: no matter what. If they had a top three pick,

733
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Speaker 2: you chose the right number, number three. If they were

734
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 2: further back then, I think it becomes more of a discussion.

735
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Speaker 2: I tend to think they did not really see Justin

736
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: Fields as a true difference maker, and that Drake Maye

737
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels would also, you know, provide a window into

738
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Speaker 2: a new field.

739
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: I wrote down the same thing. I think they made

740
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 3: their evaluation on Justin Fields and in top three, I

741
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 3: think they would have found something to like in each

742
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 3: one of those guys to move on from Fields, right.

743
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: It seems clear to me every teams different.

744
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 2: It really sounds like, based on everything we're hearing, more

745
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: teams have Daniels two than May, and that there are

746
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: some teams out there, and who knows if the Bears

747
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: would have been one of these teams that agree with

748
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 2: the Chris Simms and the JT. O.

749
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Speaker 1: Sullivan's of the world. And like some people just aren't

750
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Speaker 1: in on May.

751
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 2: They're just like nah, right, And I'm surprised by that

752
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: because to me, he's as exciting and maybe as good

753
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: as any prospect I can remember watching since like Andrew

754
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: Luck along with Calla Williams is even better. So it's

755
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 2: crazy there's two of these guys, but just in terms

756
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: of pure excitement level and talent, he seems to be

757
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 2: at that level. But some teams aren't into it. There

758
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 2: are three really good quarterbacks in this class, though, so yeah,

759
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: I think they would not be keeping fields. The next

760
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 2: question is from Patty seven to ten on Twitter. Could

761
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: you pass on to Mark Sessler that I was watching

762
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 2: Winnie the Pooh with my daughters and Rabbit uses the

763
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: phrase heavens to Betsy, so he is in good company.

764
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 2: More of a comment than a question, but I liked it.

765
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've I've mentioned before multiple times that

766
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 3: it was my grandmother that used to say this in

767
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: various situations when flustered or something was surprising. Yeah, so

768
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: maybe she caught it from Winning the Pooh's Friend Rabbit.

769
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

770
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 2: It's always just a trip back in time on the

771
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: Around the NFL podcast, whenever that comes up. Next one

772
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 2: is from Tom Marsh, A longtime listener recognized Tom a

773
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 2: serious question, could Justin Jefferson be traded at the draft?

774
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 2: He also says, unserious question, is Mahomes really nowhere near

775
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: goats status? Let's start unserious. First, we didn't say that

776
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: he's nowhere.

777
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 3: Who would have said that?

778
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's responding to our conversation.

779
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: On Wednesday that it was like his start his We

780
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: were saying, like, it's just hard to compare someone who's

781
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: had an entire career, like if Mahomes' career ended this moment. Yeah,

782
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,280
Speaker 2: his his peak was brilliant, But how do you compare

783
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 2: that to guys like Montana or Brady or especially Manny

784
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: that played so long. I don't know, it's hard guys

785
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 2: who won three or four.

786
00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: It's like a goat farm. There's a couple, So it's not.

787
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: He's nowhere near.

788
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 2: It's just like he's got to keep plaining and he'll

789
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: get there. There's almost no question the Jefferson question. I

790
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: was glad someone asked this. I do think there's like

791
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: a greater chance that Justin Jefferson is traded than probably

792
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 2: public perception is out there. I would still be shocked,

793
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: but you do have the recipes here for at least

794
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 2: it being possible, which is really great quarterback prospects, and

795
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: the Vikings being this motivated to try to go up,

796
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: like I would only trade Justin Jefferson, and if I'm

797
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: going up to one, then I would maybe think about it,

798
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't think about it if I'm the Vikings,

799
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: but he is not as valuable making thirty million dollars

800
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: a year or whatever. It's going to cost one hundred

801
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: million dollars guaranteed as he is this moment on this

802
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 2: rookie deal, and that's what it's going to cost. But

803
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: I still think like it would be crazy for them

804
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 2: to do it.

805
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: I think it's like there's this assumption because they've got

806
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 3: the two number ones, that they have everything they need

807
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 3: to move up. But if teams aren't going to play

808
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: ball with those those picks and they want if it's you,

809
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: we need Justin Jefferson to get up to two or

810
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: three or whatever. Like I think the trend is you

811
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 3: move on from some of these like massively starry wide

812
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 3: receivers when the contracts become insane and you find, like

813
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 3: DJ said before, like these players will not Justin Jefferson,

814
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: but great wide receivers will be available in every draft

815
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: from now until the end of time.

816
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 1: Hmm.

817
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, Jefferson's so unique that quessi adopomenta that their

818
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 2: GM's comment that like, we're ready to make them the

819
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: highest paid player in the league. To me, that just

820
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 2: said they know what they have and I don't think

821
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 2: there's almost any chance. But if you if I'm individually

822
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: looking at Ayuk and Jefferson and you want to throw

823
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: some surprise T Higgins and some surprise names out there,

824
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 2: like a like an AJ Brown or divide like individually,

825
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: I don't think any of them are close to likely,

826
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 2: but odds, you know, the history would say, like there'll

827
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: be one surprise out I.

828
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: Think I uke to the Steelers. There's little buzz and

829
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 3: whispers around that, so we'll see.

830
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Next one is from Eric Blazel, who would be your

831
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: dream non NFL figure to announce a draft pick for

832
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: your favorite or any franchise?

833
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 4: You go ahead.

834
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: I came up with a quick list. Oh I like this,

835
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 3: Brad and Leo. This is from Myle's just like from

836
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: my pick, Like this is who I like. It's my team,

837
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: your guys, So they would be one.

838
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: But what about Leo potentially playing Frank Sinatra in an

839
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 2: upcoming Biac biopic?

840
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 1: Did he see that?

841
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 3: I did?

842
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't.

843
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 3: I don't see the resemblance, but I don't know. But

844
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: why not, Well, you don't have to look exactly like No, No,

845
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: I mean I like I liked I like him in

846
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: any for the most part. Yeah, I think he could

847
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 3: pull it off. So I have them.

848
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: I have Chelsea Clint Jennifer Lawrence would play his his

849
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 2: second wife. I believe in that movie she's too old

850
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: for tough luck for the first one in real life.

851
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have Chelsea Clinton dressed in a suit in

852
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: medieval armor. King Kong Bundy. Although King Kong Bundy that

853
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: was this would make news because King Kong Bundy died

854
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, so we'd be back from the dead.

855
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 3: Dana Harvey announcing the pick is ross pro that would

856
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 3: be nice an AI version of Julius Caesar or Raggedy

857
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 3: ann Andy.

858
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: Those are all amazing.

859
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: I can't top that. When you get to day three, though,

860
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 3: they had they have animals announcing the picks.

861
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: And sure my and my just first instinct was Nicholas Cage.

862
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: I just love him and I just feel like I

863
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 2: don't know what he's gonna do. That's the whole beauty

864
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: of Nick Cage. I just feel like he will own

865
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: the moment. Our next one is from our friend Matt

866
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Tanton had some barbecue with him in Austin. He's a

867
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: big time Bears fan. He addresses this directly to tug Bot.

868
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take that as a slight, but you know,

869
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 2: Dan did send out the prompt. Is the world prepared

870
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 2: for the Bears to have an actual legit QB If

871
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is as generational as US Bears fans, hope, pray,

872
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: believe he'll be.

873
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 3: My answer to this is are the Bears prepared? Hmmm?

874
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: The world's prepared the world. The world's not thinking about

875
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: the Bears. We're excited about new quarterbacks coming into the league.

876
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna be fantastic. Not I guess I

877
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 2: needed to do this, but just watch it's just like

878
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 2: I just can't see how it's not gonna work. I

879
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 2: just can't see how he's not gonna be. And now,

880
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 2: generational is one thing, but if like Trevor Lawrence level,

881
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: like you're in the top ten quarterbacks in the league

882
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 2: is the floor and I'd be surprised if he's you know,

883
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: like long term. I just can't imagine him not being

884
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: higher in that. Like we're ready. It's fine, it's another

885
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: great quarterback. We love quarterbacks. Are the Bears ready because

886
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 2: they have been a somewhat unserious franchise for a long

887
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 2: time in terms of their offense, and people are like, oh,

888
00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: they're in great position now. It's like, I guess, like

889
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: it's a new offensive system that bringing in. I like

890
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: Shane Waldron, fine it I like Keenan Allen, but they

891
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: don't really have a number three and you know, he's

892
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 2: had his injuries and stuff the offensive line. It's like, Okay,

893
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: it's a new offensive system. Are they ready?

894
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 4: Well?

895
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: Is Matt Eberflus ready? Is the GM and ownership already?

896
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 2: I'm not that I'm moment, I'd say.

897
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 3: Especially if at number nine they get one of these

898
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: like top white outs. I I've talked to Tanton dating

899
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: back like a decade plus in our newsroom about the Bears,

900
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 3: and he's frustrated from the top of the heap all

901
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 3: the way down with how the whole place is run.

902
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 3: And I get it. But even under Levy Smith and

903
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 3: even previously that they always had these like thirteen and

904
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: three seasons with no quarterback where it was like there's

905
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 3: always defense in the same you know erlocker and like

906
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: a great secondary and stuff. It's like if they were

907
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 3: quarterback led and the Bears had like a top two

908
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 3: or three guy. I think from a fan angle, having

909
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: watched football for like forty years, that is something that

910
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: I'm not totally prepared for in the sense they have

911
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: been sort of the same thing forever and if not

912
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: milk toe's sort of the weird, wrong type of good team.

913
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 3: When they've been gone to the playoffs, this is this

914
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 3: would be different, right?

915
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 2: And are we ready for the fans because they are

916
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: among the best fans in the league. It would be

917
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: great for the NFL. They have been irrationally optimistic about

918
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 2: their team on an annual basis. Adam rank here at

919
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 2: the NFL I think represents that well and been so

920
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,239
Speaker 2: wrong so many times that when they actually have a

921
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: real quarterback and a good team, I mean, They're going to.

922
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Get wild and I love it. It's a great sports down.

923
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: Was reminded of that watching the nine to ten playoff

924
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: playing game. I don't know if you were in on

925
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 2: Bulls Hawks, it wasn't much of a game, but then that.

926
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 3: Crowd was insane for a night.

927
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 2: Like the Bulls fans, it makes sense they they just

928
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 2: want a winner and this team's been sub mediocre forever.

929
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: They're ten games under five hundred, but they're going freaking

930
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,799
Speaker 2: crazy because they you know, they want a winner and.

931
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 3: That ball is completely different than basketball. True, and in

932
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 3: this case, I think it's it is the same, great,

933
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 3: it's similar, similar, and.

934
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: Yet it's a Bearstown for all those titles. Everyone in

935
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 2: Chicago will tell you it's still Bears and everything.

936
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: I thought Bulls would have put that to the test

937
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 3: for a while.

938
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: I had a question. This was the most common question.

939
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: This one's from Mode Design Things, but we got about

940
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 2: seven or eight times asked, will there be an ATM

941
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: draft show?

942
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Quite enjoyed last year.

943
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 2: Unfortunately there won't be, so we we had to mention

944
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: it at some point where.

945
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Advice rewatch last year's that's still that would be great.

946
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 2: It's got two million views on you, which is wild,

947
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 2: but don't have enough resources to do it. So we're

948
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: very disappointed and would love to bring it back. Not

949
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,479
Speaker 2: happening this year. All right, we're gonna take a quick break.

950
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 2: We'll hit more of the mail bag after this. Okay,

951
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: we are back. Next question is what do the heroes

952
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 2: think is the most Chris Wesseling type prospect of the

953
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 2: draft and look, I just want any reason to uh

954
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: to mention Chris on the show. And it got me thinking, actually,

955
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: what is that even? What what is a Chris Wesseling

956
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: type podcat prospect.

957
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: I came up with. I remember how much Westling loved

958
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 3: the physical nature of Steve Smith, and I'm not saying

959
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 3: that the same player, but Roman, don't say, to me,

960
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 3: was like someone that I think Chris would have been.

961
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 3: Like I I get Marvin Harris and all said, it's

962
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: like no one's looking past that. But like Rome, to me,

963
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 3: is this kind of guy that's going to come in

964
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: and be a nasty, physical player. And I think Wes

965
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: always appreciated.

966
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: That that is a perfect pick. You're absolutely right, that

967
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 2: was his style. Well, uh an ankwon bold and type

968
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: of who I asked too. But Wes was unpredictable on

969
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 2: some level in that like he liked what he liked

970
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 2: and that was what quarterbacks he could be.

971
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: All.

972
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 2: You know, he loved Mariota, but he also loved like

973
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 2: big physical guys like Herbert. So I thought Drake Drake

974
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 2: made to me popped up. I felt like, you know,

975
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 2: that's when I think we would have like agreed on

976
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 2: that just watching someone do things, and I think May

977
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 2: could be like this in terms of the throws that

978
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 2: he makes, do things that you just haven't seen guys

979
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 2: do before. That he loved. He loved a running back

980
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 2: that could just pop a big play. When I was

981
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: thinking about what what is he like running back like?

982
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: He likes ones that are physical. Certainly I don't know

983
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 2: this class well enough, but Trey Benson is that guy

984
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 2: who can just pop the big play like Wes was

985
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 2: early on on Jonathan Taylor really thought he'd be great

986
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 2: and loved Chris Johnson. Right, So that's the thing, different

987
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: types of players. He likes the physical type, but he

988
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 2: likes the big playmakers. It's about me, it always is.

989
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, if you want to check my Twitter

990
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 2: account this week, I sent out randomly this what West

991
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 2: saw as his football syllabus. It was just a Excel

992
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: spreadsheet essentially of all the books that he believes would

993
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 2: be a great And I know you're not active right

994
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,240
Speaker 2: now on Twitter, so you well, I have a copy

995
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: of this though, right yeah, right, And he had sent

996
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 2: it out. We have copies, so it but just randomly

997
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 2: I clicked on it this week and I and I thought, oh,

998
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 2: that would be cool to send it out and people

999
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: really like seeing it. And got all the best football

1000
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: books of all time, category categories and million wains long

1001
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: his best long forms. He really spent a lot of

1002
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: the time the first time he was sick going through

1003
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 2: all these long forms. I was like a project form

1004
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: those sports long forms, nonsports.

1005
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: It's really great.

1006
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: Check check that out on my Twitter account if you want.

1007
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 2: This week next one is from Bradley Sadler, who says

1008
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: who has a better chance of drafting a first round

1009
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: qb Rams, Jets or Seahawks.

1010
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: Uh. You know, it's interesting because I was going to

1011
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 3: bring this up with DJ, and you know, we moved on,

1012
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 3: but he and Bucky had a conversation about the fact

1013
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 3: that the Seahawks could be a very good destination for

1014
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 3: Michael Pennox junior. That they are you know, they've got

1015
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: people in the building, they're the guy running their offense

1016
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: is a Penix. He's a he's a tutor of Pennix.

1017
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: They're up in the Northwest, like no Pennix knows how

1018
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 3: to play in that in that world, in that weather,

1019
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: and it's someone that you could kind of nestle behind

1020
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 3: Geno Smith and Sam Howell for a season, which makes

1021
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 3: sense for him. But it's like the arm talent and

1022
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: what they have, It's like, I think they should look

1023
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 3: forward to the quarterback. The thing is this, though, because

1024
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 3: they have a they've got their first round pick, but

1025
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 3: they don't have a second, I believe, and so they

1026
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 3: have to like figure out if they even wanted to

1027
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,800
Speaker 3: package picks now right.

1028
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Up, I thought they I think they do not. They

1029
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: maybe sold.

1030
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: I think they got rid of one of theirs, but

1031
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 2: they had they got rid of the they lost one

1032
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: in the Leonard Williams trade, but I think they had

1033
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: one from the Broncos, So I think it even even.

1034
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: I'm looking at Seahawks dot com and it's round one,

1035
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 3: round three, two fourths, two sixth and a seventh. Uh So,

1036
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess it would be it would be

1037
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 3: that's kind of your draft right there, and it would

1038
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: be not their number one need at the moment. But

1039
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: I'd say that over the Jets. To me, it's like,

1040
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 3: why are we first round Jets? Like they Aaron Rodgers

1041
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 3: just telling to me wants to play multiple years. Rams

1042
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 3: that's a little spicy. Depends who would fall to over

1043
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 3: or what they would do. Yeah, I thought, and you're right,

1044
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 3: there isn't a second round pick. That was a brain

1045
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 3: part by me.

1046
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting question because we haven't

1047
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: heard quarterbacks associated really with any of these teams, and

1048
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: yet they're all strong surprise teams. The Rams have to

1049
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 2: start thinking about the post Matthew Stafford world. First round

1050
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: would be a surprise, but if the right guy fell

1051
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: to them or second round. I kind of opened this

1052
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 2: up in my head as like, okay, but mate, what

1053
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 2: about a surprise second round pick if the right guy fell,

1054
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: like if Penix falls the Jets.

1055
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: It's not crazy to think about that.

1056
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: And we had another question that was first round though

1057
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 2: not first round probably and someone said, well, so the

1058
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 2: that would just be Jets to the Jets do.

1059
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: The Jordan love thing.

1060
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 2: It did motivate Aaron Rodgers to win into uh MVP Awards,

1061
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 2: and then the Seahawks. It's almost weird how little connection

1062
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: there has been made that, like the Washington offensive coordinator

1063
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: is their offensive coordinator. Pennix picked the right year to

1064
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 2: come out with that, so he's there, and then he

1065
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: also has a close relationship and I think you know,

1066
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 2: played with played for Antonio Pierce, and those are two

1067
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: teams that might be drafting quarterbacks. I don't think it's

1068
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: going to be a priority for Seattle in round one,

1069
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: but round round two maybe.

1070
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: Never know, and I hope not.

1071
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll just be like a lot of drama. Next question

1072
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: is really for you. It's from Sam Brown.

1073
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: He says, please, can you just give Mark three minutes

1074
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:52,839
Speaker 2: uninterrupted to talk about what he was.

1075
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: Doing in the year nineteen ninety seven. I'm excited.

1076
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 3: Well, I don't think. I hope this won't take three minutes.

1077
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 3: But I came up with a bulleted list. I had

1078
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: to go through the memory banks on this one, and

1079
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 3: here it goes. Completed an internship at Baseball Weekly in Washington,

1080
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 3: d C. Top of the year, bypassed a low level

1081
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Speaker 3: newspaper job, moved to New York City and lived in

1082
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: a West one Oaight department with my friend and a

1083
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,320
Speaker 3: female painter. My room had a mattress, three changes of clothing,

1084
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: and a typewriter. Dated girl for a month who was

1085
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 3: very severe, wore librarians glasses and gave me pink eye.

1086
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 3: Worked as this as an assistant at a private investigator's office.

1087
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: I was asked to investigate copyright infringement, mainly like little

1088
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 3: companies calling themselves things like Costco two. On these calls,

1089
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 3: I used an aka Drew Corbette and would compile a

1090
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 3: case to bust their asses. Then left New York City

1091
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: to take a job at Camp Jewel That camp Happiness

1092
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,400
Speaker 3: place is what you guys call it. Along with a

1093
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 3: female counselor named Amy, took a gaggle of youths on

1094
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: a week long hike through the woods, where it rained

1095
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,480
Speaker 3: on us for three days. When summer camp ended, I

1096
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 3: stayed at the camp and went on a twenty one

1097
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 3: day waterfast where on days eighteen and nineteen tapeworms came

1098
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,360
Speaker 3: out of my body. Moved to Boston and for a

1099
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 3: month and did it. It is gross. Moved to Boston,

1100
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 3: but it was helpful. Moved to Boston for a month

1101
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 3: and did a ten day sleep study for nine hundred dollars.

1102
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 3: You'd stay awake for seventy two hours in a row

1103
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 3: as an example, had a spiritual had spiritual visions by

1104
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 3: the end, got on the Greyhound bus and moved to Boulder, Colorado.

1105
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 3: Found a farmhouse for twelve hundred dollars a month with

1106
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 3: my friend Kristen bowls and waited for five friends and

1107
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 3: housemates to come west, watched football for nine plus hours

1108
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 3: on Sundays at a bar called Barrelhouse two. Brett Favre

1109
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 3: was the center of my world. No Browns. Back then

1110
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 3: worked at a string of ten to twelve temp jobs,

1111
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 3: including putting together miniature flashlights at a flashlight factory. I

1112
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 3: was fired And.

1113
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: Did you fit that all in one year?

1114
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well it was a transitory year, though I don't

1115
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 3: know how that person knew to pick that year. Other

1116
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 3: years would have been less movement oriented, so.

1117
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 2: That was a perfect year to pick. Yeah to what that,

1118
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 2: you must have been just out of college, so that

1119
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,399
Speaker 2: was a yes.

1120
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Speaker 3: Yeah, with no uh no money.

1121
00:50:58,560 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: I was a lot of different.

1122
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, like I I when I was trying

1123
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 3: to get a real job. I had a friend, like

1124
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 3: some sort of industry expert look in my resume and said, like,

1125
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 3: you look like someone who's just sort of on the

1126
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 3: run from the law.

1127
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: So tape worms not what you want.

1128
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: Walker had some like they literally like see him look

1129
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: like worms is poop?

1130
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's where they appear.

1131
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: Discussed the outside of the body. Next question is and

1132
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: I love that that that is our social clip.

1133
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 2: Brandy Dan of The Avenue asked, can you ask Greg

1134
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 2: which order would he draft the three members of Boy

1135
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: Genius in, Well, I'm not gonna do it for football

1136
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 2: because that just gets weird. But Julie, it's it's a

1137
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 2: clear one two three here with big tiers in between.

1138
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 2: So it's Julian Baker first, Lucy Dakis second, Phoebe Bridges third.

1139
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 1: Next one is from polled Alpha. It's just obvious.

1140
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:59,760
Speaker 2: Any words of advice for a very near future first

1141
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 2: time that my immediate thought was would be like don't worry,

1142
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 2: and I guess this would apply to you Eric as well,

1143
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: is don't stress or plan too much before they get there.

1144
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: Seems like a waste of time that like, enjoy that,

1145
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: not like you have to like desert your your lovely wife.

1146
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 2: You should be supporting her and helping her in any

1147
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 2: way obviously while she's pregnant. But like I see a

1148
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:29,799
Speaker 2: lot of times people like, well I got to plan this,

1149
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 2: I gotta do this, I gotta.

1150
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: Come up because it's like.

1151
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: It's all got to be meaningless anyway, So you might

1152
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 2: as well just like enjoy enjoy the time before it's a.

1153
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: Little bit of a calm before the storm.

1154
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really agree with that. I think in general

1155
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 3: for a dad, one on one time is very valuable

1156
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 3: no matter what you're doing. But the second thing I

1157
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 3: thought it was like the child with a child. Yeah,

1158
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 3: with our first born, Luke, like I had I was

1159
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: home four days a week, like during because I was

1160
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 3: working in NFL, but it was only three days a week,

1161
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: and like I literally was like taking care of him

1162
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 3: as a newborn for like hours a day, and it

1163
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 3: formed this incredible bond. So I know a lot sometimes

1164
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 3: dad's like out on all that until like until the

1165
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: baby can talk or the child can like interact. It's

1166
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: like get in there early and like be part of

1167
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 3: that because it really creates something that I never expected.

1168
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:20,120
Speaker 3: So there you go.

1169
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 5: Eric, Right, I'm actually pretty excited. I don't know, I mean,

1170
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 5: obviously I'm pretty excited I'm having a son, but I'm

1171
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 5: really like gung ho. I've had weird radio hours before,

1172
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: so I feel like I've been primed and nurtured to

1173
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 5: have be up at two am every two hours through

1174
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 5: the night. So like I'm actually kind of excited about

1175
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 5: like being my wife has done enough, Like I'm gonna

1176
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 5: be like ready to go and take take over whenever needed.

1177
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 3: So good messaging five wakes out.

1178
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: That's exciting.

1179
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: And although I do find it, I feel like this

1180
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: happens for a lot of couples that they realized with

1181
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: the second kid.

1182
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we don't both have to get up

1183
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 1: every time.

1184
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 5: Second, my wife just made that clear that there will

1185
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 5: be a period of time where I am the guys.

1186
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 3: But the key being like.

1187
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 2: Either she's the overnight woman that night or in general

1188
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: that week or whatever it is.

1189
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 1: And you know, it doesn't have to be the same

1190
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: person every day.

1191
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 3: Lug each other.

1192
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: You don't need to be like, oh, come, you know

1193
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: you're again. It's like do one or the other? You

1194
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 2: want the other stronger in the day. Also, people don't

1195
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: know this, but every human child is dramatically different, and

1196
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 2: so these like base sort of like recommendations for what

1197
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: to do and how to think, Like, you know, it

1198
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,759
Speaker 2: doesn't exactly work because every child reacts completely different. Look

1199
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 2: at the Westling Brothers, right, my even my two children,

1200
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: one advice for one would have been terrible advice for

1201
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:41,919
Speaker 2: the other, and vice versus.

1202
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 5: Right, well, we'll get through this first one. Before I

1203
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 5: got to worry about trends. I'm just you know, just.

1204
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Saying you're all different.

1205
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: It seems like a fair plan.

1206
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,239
Speaker 2: Jeff Yates, what would, in your mind be the most

1207
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 2: polarizing pick your team of fandom could make this year? Oh,

1208
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,319
Speaker 2: I didn't read this right the first time. Well, for me,

1209
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:02,320
Speaker 2: it would be the Patriots trading down and just doing

1210
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:04,919
Speaker 2: that like that, no matter who's on the board, whether

1211
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,959
Speaker 2: it's May or Daniels. And I would be personally more

1212
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 2: into it if it was if May is gone and

1213
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: Daniels is on the board and they traded down to

1214
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: like the Giants and they still get one of the receivers.

1215
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 2: To me, I'm gonna I'm gonna ride with that and

1216
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 2: just see what happens. But that would be the most polarizing.

1217
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: Everyone wants the QB, I think.

1218
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 3: So if I'm coming from a Browns angle, like, don't

1219
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 3: they don't pick till the fifty fourth pick? And so

1220
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: I kind of was like, I mean, quarterbacks stupid just

1221
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 3: because they're not going to take a quarterback at ninety four.

1222
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: But like I thought, the one thought like this, the heart,

1223
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 3: the beating heart of the Browns is Nick Chubb. But

1224
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: there's questions about his health still and where will be

1225
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,279
Speaker 3: and like his future to some degree in terms of

1226
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: like what is this player post injury? Like if they

1227
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 3: went and picked at fifty four, it could work like

1228
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 3: a starting type running back. I think that would yeah,

1229
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: cause some problems with certain Browns fins.

1230
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't makes it.

1231
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:01,000
Speaker 2: The thing is, like everyone loves all these offensive players

1232
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: and like none of the tackles are are going to

1233
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 2: be polarizing. It's always a team that just looks at

1234
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 2: their board differently than the rest of the league. It's

1235
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: often been the Seahawks lately, used to be the Patriots

1236
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 2: often where it's just like they take a guy who's

1237
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 2: on the consensus board at like forty three, except they

1238
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 2: take them at sixteen and everyone goes crazy. But it's like,

1239
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 2: you don't know anything. Finlay McClure, which you know sounds suspicious.

1240
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 2: Is that a made up name, Finlay McClure. I think

1241
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: it possibly is from overseas, I don't know, or it's

1242
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,919
Speaker 2: a character from like Ducktails. If you are Sean Payton

1243
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: and the Broncos, which scenarios do you pick trade up

1244
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: to four, give up three first to get MacArthur or

1245
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 2: may Stan Patt twelve and take Pennix or take best

1246
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: player available non quarterback at twelve and build the team

1247
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 2: up first. Of those three, I would go for the

1248
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 2: third option, but I I like to take a quarterback. Yeah,

1249
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: I just think reaching at twelve seems so and I don't.

1250
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't give up all those.

1251
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: Picks for for the third quarterback in this CLUBB even

1252
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: though I love me, I think, uh, you stay at twelve,

1253
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: and I think there's a real chance that Bo Nicks

1254
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 2: is available at your second round pick, or Michael Pennix

1255
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: is available, Like all these guys aren't gonna go like,

1256
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 2: don't force it.

1257
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 3: I I'm with the don't force it, but don't ignore

1258
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 3: quarterback just because like this concept of we're going to

1259
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 3: build a team and wait for a quarterly if they

1260
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 3: go four and thirteen, you don't have time for that,

1261
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: Like no one has time for that.

1262
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: I'm Layton might of anyone, but yeah, I hear it.

1263
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1264
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 3: I feel like the Peyton thing like needs to work

1265
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 3: for like this invincibility shield around him to continue to

1266
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 3: be accurate. And there's it's like the quarterback draft is

1267
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,240
Speaker 3: going to allow someone to come down there. I but

1268
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: I I would do it. But if you're saying, may

1269
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 3: is this potentially player that we've never seen before and

1270
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 3: he's sitting there at three, it's like, then you then

1271
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 3: why would you not trade? Sure, get your first or

1272
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 3: three first round picks. Sure, but if he's that if

1273
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: he's that guy you know who knows that's it'll look genius.

1274
00:57:58,720 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 1: But that's fair.

1275
00:57:59,200 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 3: I don't know if you.

1276
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: Paid your it's also or whoever it would be, would

1277
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: have to take that pick. So you need to two

1278
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:09,400
Speaker 2: teams to tangle there. Other Elliott Wolf, the GM in

1279
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 2: practice not in name for the Patriots, said on Thursday,

1280
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 2: we're open for business. We're open for business on pick

1281
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 2: three and everything else. But we're open for business, so

1282
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: I think they'll be listening. What's your favorite draft memory,

1283
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: as Brandon Smith, what draft pick are your favorite team?

1284
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 2: Were you most excited about at the time of the pick?

1285
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 2: A player most surprised by turning into a bust?

1286
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 1: What do you got?

1287
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 3: I mean, I know mine happened on this show, and

1288
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 3: like there's a clip that I wish wasn't out there

1289
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: to some degree when the Browns did this with.

1290
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: The twenty second pick in the twenty fourteen NFL Draft,

1291
00:58:49,000 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Brown select Johnny Manzelle quarter. That was Dave Damashek.

1292
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: Will you be saying that Bryan shayze Er kills him

1293
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: Maury's one now?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, it's a boy on Christmas? The Christmas is coln.

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Speaker 3: I mean we were shoved into those Radio City musical

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Speaker 3: seats which were made for people in the nineteen tens,

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Speaker 3: and h you know, I had walked around like Manhattan

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Speaker 3: for days kind of wishing this would happen, and when

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Speaker 3: it happened, it felt like Cleveland is the most exciting

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00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: thing in the National Football League and then it went completely, completely,

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Speaker 3: totally south into hell.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty rough. I mean, you look younger there, but

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Speaker 1: I think you look better now. So that was nice.

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Speaker 1: Everyone should check that out on YouTube. Thanks that.

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Speaker 2: Uh, it was Dave Danishek's voice, and just like you

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: can't really put words to Mark's expression there, I read

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00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: this question wrong and just thought, like general draft moments,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to think.

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Speaker 1: Of the Patriots player I was most excited about it.

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: Weirdly, will Fork fell so far to them and seemed

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01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: like such a Patriots guy, and that was about the

1312
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 2: peak of like Patriots always make the right picks fandom

1313
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 2: for me that I just remember being so pumped when

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01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:16,960
Speaker 2: Vince Wilfork fell to them at the time. But otherwise,

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01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, when when the Vikings didn't take their pick

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01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 2: and the other two like ran up to take it

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01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 2: in three, that was just like an incredible draft.

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01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 1: We're like, what am I watching the four draft?

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01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: To me, nothing will top Rivers, Big Ben, Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: There was a lot of stuff going into their aft.

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01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 2: But literally as it happened, we all thought they were

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01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: gonna trade and make the trade ultimately that they did make,

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01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: but no one knew for sure. And then the Chargers

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Speaker 2: take Eli and he has to hold it up, and

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01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 2: there's there's not Twitter at that point, and so it's

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01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 2: just like you're living in this total netherworld.

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Speaker 1: It was like, Wow, they really took them.

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01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 2: They're putting the giant's feet to the fire, Like, what

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01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: the hell is gonna happen? I guess they're just gonna

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01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 2: keep them, and and he's holding it up and he's

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01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: like not happy about it, and so that like twenty

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01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, it was fifteen picks minutes per pick. Then

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 2: before Rivers and the Eli trade actually happened, and that

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01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: was just so ballsy by their GM. Who it's escaping me.

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Speaker 2: Who that was was? Aj Heg Smith, I believe was

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Speaker 2: his name, who just sat there, took Eli and just

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01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 2: waited until the best offer came in and they got

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Speaker 2: a great one and then they ended up getting Rivers.

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Speaker 1: So they were both I.

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Speaker 3: Think both those things you mentioned, the best pick by

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 3: the Vikings and in that scenario right there, like they've

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01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: never that's never really happened since that way at all.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was incredible. The Ricky Williams I was

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01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 2: in New Orleans.

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01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 3: That was crazy.

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01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: I was in New Orleans for that draft. That was

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01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: that was when I was in college.

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Speaker 3: That that hasn't happened again either.

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01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 2: So now that was a wild thing and that that

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01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: was a rare I think I just wanted the weekend off.

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01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 2: Right in the postgame, the press conference where he came

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 2: and showed up in Ricky's dread, wearing Ricky's dreads, it

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01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 2: was just it was a different time. All Right, We're

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01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 2: gonna take one last break and wrap up the mail bag. Next,

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Speaker 2: let's go to our next tweet. Oh yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: I brought this one up last year's Greg hit on

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 2: Sam Laporta, who is Greg's only fantasy sleeper superstar that

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01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,479
Speaker 2: Dynasty Keeper managers need to keep their eye. I still

1359
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 2: want to watch some of these running backs. I can't

1360
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 2: pretend that I have a hot take, and that's usually

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 2: the fantasy thing. But for me, it's Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 2: I just I just love me some Brian Thomas Jr.

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Speaker 1: Love him like.

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Speaker 2: I just think that he could be up there with

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 2: those three guys in the end as just this crazy

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,840
Speaker 2: explosive year after year, big time wide receiver.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And Chad Ryder, who had on yesterday had him

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Speaker 3: falling all the way down to the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of disagreement with him that he

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Speaker 2: could that would be on any incredible landing spot that

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01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: would be if he landed there, he would be big

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Speaker 2: time players sooner than later. Where on the peace scale?

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Speaker 2: Our next, sweet ass? I think this is the last one.

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Speaker 2: How about that? Cranked? Is Greg Rosenthal in terms of

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01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:08,320
Speaker 2: the peace scale? In regards to the Delaware tapes being released,

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Speaker 2: I have an update on this situation.

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Speaker 1: I was, I been. I'm gonna go poop now, that's

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01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: not the update.

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Speaker 2: I've been ready all week for this update, but Dan

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Speaker 2: just hasn't brought it up. I don't feel like it'd

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01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 2: be right to do without Dan here, So we'll save it.

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Speaker 1: We'll, we'll just we'll just.

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Speaker 3: You don't seem too unnerved by the whole situation. Fine, Okay, Fine,

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Speaker 3: I'm proud. That's it, Mark, what a week of shows.

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01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: Next week we're onto the draft. That will be a

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01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:40,520
Speaker 3: bigger week than this week, by leaps and bounds.

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Speaker 1: It will.

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01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: But it's just the adrenaline. The excitement carries you through.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back on Monday, Eric, right, and then uh,

1390
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 2: we'll also have the Mark Sessler mock draft will be

1391
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: there on Draft night. We'll wrap up the draft with

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01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 2: winners and losers over the weekend. So I'm excited. The

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01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,040
Speaker 2: adrenaline kind of carries you through draft week. I'm a

1394
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 2: think for the pre draft process to be Let's go

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01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 2: from Mark Sessler, Randy Chavez, Daniel Jeremiah.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, Eric, We miss you.

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01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 3: Dan Heed.

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Speaker 1: The call