1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hey guys, and we are back. Welcome to season two 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: of Let's Be Real. I cannot believe that we are here. 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: I am so happy. First of all, if you are new, welcome, 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: and if you're returning, thank you so much for coming back. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: I am Sammy Jay And every Tuesday a new episode 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: is coming out. So for the first episode of season two, 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: I am so honored to say that Anthony Ramos is 8 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: my guest. I have been a fan of his music 9 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: and talent for a long time. We talk about so 10 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: many things, from the stigma around mental health for guys, 11 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Hamilton's behind the scenes stories of course, the new album 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: he's working on, filming the movie in the Heights, how 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: he's actually creating a musical, and we talk about a 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: very special charity he works with that I'm so excited 15 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: for you guys to hear about. And finally, this was 16 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: recorded before the election, so that is why we did 17 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: not talk about it. I hope you enjoy the first 18 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: episode of season two. Anthony. I'm so excited to have 19 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: you on my podcast. You have no idea at Thanks 20 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: for having me, Sady come on. So actually I saw 21 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 1: you in concert in Brooklyn. One of the best concerts 22 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: I've been to. Genuinely one of the best. I think 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why I love it because you 24 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: gave context before every song and you kind of explain 25 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 1: the lyrics and my actually have a learning difference and 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: it's auditory processing, so allowed me to understand the lyrics 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,399 Speaker 1: and the music on an entirely different level. So I 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: think more artists should be doing that. Oh my gosh, 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: you just made my whole day. We can end the 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: interview right now. Yeah, this is an amazing thing having me, Yo, 31 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: that's so awesome. Man. I'm glad. Yo, I'm glad man 32 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: for real because I try to do that. I tried, 33 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: you know. It's like because you go to so many shows, 34 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 1: you're like, dang, I wish I could understand and the 35 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: context behind the song too. Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, 36 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: and like where did this song come from? And like 37 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: some songs are not personal, right, but like but but 38 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: when they are, like yo, I like I want to 39 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: know like who was that who was that person that 40 00:01:58,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: you were talking about in the first verse, or what's 41 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: uh when did that happen to you? You know, like moment, 42 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: like when was that time in your life? You know 43 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: how old were you, Like where were you? You know 44 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, like that kind of thing, that kind 45 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: of just I don't know, it makes me feel more 46 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: connected to the song, you know, even as as the artist, 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: as an audience. Well, I also think that The Good 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: Bat is so brilliant because it's this It's like it's 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: kind of like a movie. It's the chapter of your 50 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 1: it's the chapter of your life that it's told so eloquently, 51 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 1: and it's kind of like a show. Yeah yeah, yeah, 52 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's crazy. It is like when I was 53 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: writing all these songs and it's like they were all 54 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: like little movies in my head, you know, like you 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: could make it a movie. It's crazy. I started talking, 56 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I started thinking about it. I was thinking about how 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: to develop this as a as a as a film 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: or movie musical. You know, I don't know if we're 59 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna do it, but it was like something I was like, dang, 60 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: this is a story here, Like like all we gotta 61 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: do is to put some dialogue in between, and we 62 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: got your story. Yeah yeah, imagine being like an animation. 63 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: That would be so sick Yoh, but you know, it 64 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: was crazy, like even so even like um So from 65 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 1: East I think it's the fourth song on the album, 66 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: and One More Hour is the third, and One More 67 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: Hour it was like about this, you know, these two 68 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: people who had this like long night and they were 69 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 1: hanging out all night and chilling right yeah, And then 70 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the song, I was like, Yo, 71 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: what if we had Because the next song was about 72 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 1: vacation I took with my fiance, my girl Jasmine. We 73 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: went to Puerto Rico, and I was like, what if 74 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: we had Like the piano at the end gets dreamy, 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: It's like if you close your eyes you can hear this, 76 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: So we put birds at the end. I was just 77 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: about to say those little those little things that you 78 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: put in it like sets it up for the next song, 79 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: so it flows so perfectly. That's dope. Yeah, I'm glad you. 80 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: I'm glad you did it. Yo. Yeah. We gotta thought 81 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: about every moment. Yeah, yeah, I mean I can. That's 82 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: my favorite part about putting albums together to like, like, 83 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: I love putting out singles, but my favorite part about 84 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: making music is like being able to put the whole 85 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: body and work together and really like piece the songs together, 86 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: like all right, what goes where? Why does this go? Here. Oh, 87 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: we we need an up temple here. We want to 88 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: feel pulse right here with you know what I'm saying, Like, 89 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: it's those little things that really make it all together 90 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't notice. Um. One of 91 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: my favorite songs is figure It Out, And there's a 92 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: line in it, um why am I pushing away with silence? 93 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Has to say? And when I heard that, I was like, 94 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 1: that is so powerful. So I was wondering how you 95 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: came up with that line. I was having a hard time, really, um, 96 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: really dealing with myself. You know, I was just really 97 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: having a hard time dealing with myself. And you know, uh, 98 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: I guess with myself and the silence too. You know, 99 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: I think there's a thing that comes with being silent. 100 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: And now we have phones, and now we have all 101 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: these things to distract us, right, And and I was 102 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: just kind of like down to I was feeling like depressed. 103 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: I was like, damn, like why am I feeling like this? 104 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: And and and and I was just like, what is 105 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: like this recurring theme in my life that keeps happening 106 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: that I can't like I can't just like shut my 107 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 1: mind off. I don't know how to just sit quietly, 108 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: like I'm always doing something. I'm always like I'm like working, 109 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: or I'm talking on the phone, or I'm like texting somebody, 110 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: I'm listening to music. I'm always like like on watching 111 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,280 Speaker 1: something or you know, like it's like, so that was 112 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: where that lyric came from. You know, why am I 113 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: pushing away what silence has to say? You know? Why 114 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 1: do I push through the day like tomorrow is going 115 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: to figure it out? You know, like someone else to 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: figure it out. You think about even right now, like 117 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, even now, when the world had to stop, 118 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: and we're seeing this uh you know, like for example, 119 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,160 Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter been around for seven years, that actual 120 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: like the organization, I think, right it's becoming it's on 121 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: we're in the seventh year, coming on the seven year. 122 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: But like this is this year feels like this crazy 123 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: like wave of you feel me but like in the 124 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic, when we're when we when we've 125 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: all had to stop, you know, and I think it's 126 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: like this thing when we stopped that the truth, the 127 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: truth makes its way to the surface and you can't 128 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: even and it's always been there, but because you know, 129 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,919 Speaker 1: you can't, you can't can't avoid your your your brother, 130 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: or your sister or your mommy, and that whoever you 131 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: quarantine with, right your significant other, you cannot ignore whatever 132 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: conversations y'all may have not had before your quarantine. We're 133 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: all in this house to be like you know what 134 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, phone can only keep you busy for 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: so long during quarantine. Yeah, only so many. There's so 136 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: much TV you can watch, and and there's only so many, 137 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, times you can text somebody before you gotta 138 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: like look at that person and you're sitting across from 139 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: each other on the sofa, like, damn, we should really 140 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: talk about this, right. I also feel like with your music, 141 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you're also just you're there's this weird stigma that like 142 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: guys can like have feelings or be down or be 143 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: anxious or depressed. And I just think you, like you 144 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: word it so perfectly that it's so normal. But like 145 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm curious, so why you don't think it's talked about enough? 146 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't, you know, to be honest with you, I 147 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: don't know why. Um, there's this thing about like, there's 148 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,799 Speaker 1: this thing about men. I think that we have sometimes 149 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: that when we feel weak, if we're vulnerable. You know, 150 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: vulnerability equals weakness, right right, as opposed to you know, 151 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: as opposed to UM, someone who you know it's not 152 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: afraid to be like, you know, I think it's like 153 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: we substitute sadness with anger. I think men mostly, you know, 154 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: at least most of them, most of them and I've 155 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: met right and I know myself too, rite we substitute 156 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: sadness with anger. We're like, it's not it's like it's 157 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: always like I'm mad, I'm frustrated, but it's like most 158 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: of the time it's like I'm just sad because you 159 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: don't really you're not used to using that word because 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of told you to like man up or 161 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: those kind of things, right, But that becomes a habit 162 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: you can't even identify when it's deeper than just being angry, 163 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And I think I think 164 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: that UM in turn cuts us off from actually being 165 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: able to connect with people because it's almost like so funny. 166 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: I was like talking to my thea is about this 167 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: yesterday that was mad for She's like, you know, before 168 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: you make an assumption about what something is, maybe we 169 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: just start off with saying, like I feel like that, 170 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: like this person is is saying something kind of like 171 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: not nice to me, or I feel like, um, this 172 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: doesn't seem right. I don't mean to go into like 173 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a therapy session about it were her own words, critic 174 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: and you know what on this podcast, I'm like all 175 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: her therapy. There's like I've been going for years and 176 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: it's so underrated. Yeah, I think everybody should do it. 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: If you can do it, you should do it. Please 178 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: like this, I agree. I mean I think of it 179 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: like people like you should work out your body, but 180 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: therapy is working out your mind. Like it's the same equivalent. 181 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: You gotta have both though probably like I think it's 182 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: important for you to, you know, for us to be 183 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: in shape physically, but we have to. But like how 184 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 1: how are you how are we even going to progress 185 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: as artists if we ain't progressing right? And like how 186 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: are you going to continue right? Like like it's almost 187 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: like how how do we dig deeper? And what we 188 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 1: say as artists too, and what we talk about if 189 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: we aren't digging deeper like in our own like lives 190 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: internally you know what I'm saying, Like you know, like 191 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: it's it's like the more we dig right and like, look, 192 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: you can make a whole Like the first album could 193 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: be like this, this second album is is uh is 194 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: not as um uh personal per se like where like 195 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: every story leads into the next, right, but the second 196 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: album is still very much like story driven. Every song 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: is still story driven. But I wanted to add um 198 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: like I wanted this album and feel like I said, 199 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: I said to a friend of mine explaining to me, like, yeah, 200 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: what's the difference between the first album the second album? 201 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 1: I said. First album is like story Time, you know, 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: pop up book. Second album is like the Nitro at 203 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: six Flags Great Adventure. Like I was like, we're still 204 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: we're going on a ride, you know, but it's like 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: by but there's like you know, there's there there all 206 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: these new small stories, but just with this adrenaline, this 207 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: pumping like pulse to this album that you know, I'm 208 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: excited about, but it's just like, you know, how do 209 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: we how do we dig inside and how do we 210 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: dig deep to find out? Like yo, like, because that's 211 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: how you explore. To more we dig and the more 212 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: we explore inward, the more I think, the more the 213 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: world starts to open up exactly because we get a 214 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 1: different perspective on things. Yeah, so I listened to Stop 215 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, it makes me happy, especially with 216 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: what's going on in the world. I just feel like 217 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: it kind of makes you take a moment and breathe, 218 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: being like, whoa, slow down and enjoy the moment. I 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: saw you in an interview and they were talking about 220 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: how you made a makeshift studio during quarantine and vocals 221 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: with the blanket? Was this that song? Yes? So that bridge? 222 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: So the whole bridge you know when you love somebody 223 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 1: in the moment, is you know that whole bridge? I 224 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: did underneath a quote like I had a I can't 225 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is right now, but I 226 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: put that joint over my head right here, and I 227 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: had my life. This is my my vocal boofer here, 228 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: but I just cut my vocals in there and the 229 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 1: mic is and then this stuff and look at that. 230 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: But it came out all right, and I'm glad. I 231 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: know it was this song because I was like, wait, 232 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: because I heard some vocals in there, was like, I 233 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: wonder if this is the one where he did under 234 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: a blanket. That would be pretty iconic. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 235 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: it was that. Yeah, that song was homemade. What was 236 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 1: the process of writing it, you know, what was while 237 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: I was I was in l A for I was 238 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 1: in l A for two months writing, you know, and 239 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: just writing, writing every day most days, right like five 240 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: days a week or whatever. And this was the last 241 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: song that I was writing on this trip in l A. 242 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: I think I wrote We wrote the song maybe Marsh 243 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: third or something like that or Marsh and I left 244 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: home back to New York on March fourth, and this 245 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: was before the shutdown. It was just about me how 246 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: I had problems just stopping in my life and how 247 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: I just was always felt like I've been running and 248 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 1: I'm always just like working on doing something, always always 249 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: need to be doing something. If I'm not doing anything, 250 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm like calling a friend to see if we can 251 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: hang out, Like I'm not just like I just just 252 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: don't know how to sit, you know what I'm saying 253 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: and just chill. And I was like, yeah, I need 254 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 1: to write a song about that. And then that's that's 255 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: how kind of lyrics came about. And I wrote the 256 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: song with some awesome writers. One of my boys Castle 257 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: who I went to college with, Joel and then Sean Douglas, 258 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: Amy Watson, and Jesse shot cam roll and produced it 259 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 1: and were just in there and we were going back 260 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: to forth and it was just like, sometimes I wish 261 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: my life was like a photograph. Double tap the good 262 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: ones and just photoshop the bad put them in my wallet, 263 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,839 Speaker 1: in my pocket. If I need them, then I got them. 264 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: But life don't work like that. Sometimes I feel like 265 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm in Nike's on the track even when my feet 266 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: are my mind is running fast. When I'm home, I 267 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: getting patient when I'm going. I kind of hate it, 268 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 1: but my life works like that. It's like sunsets and 269 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: open water sky's full of technicolor beauty right in front 270 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: of you, and so there's so much to discover if 271 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: you stop reading it for the moment, stop giving a minute, 272 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: and you'll own it. Stop it's only just begun. Sooner 273 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: they'll be almost over. So just stop, you know, like 274 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: see what comes in the focus. Stop. It's kind of 275 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: crazy what you notice stops like a setting sun. Sooner 276 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: they'll be almost over, So stop, you know, And like 277 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: that's what the song was. It's like, you know, it's 278 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: like I'm looking through the window of a train. All 279 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: my visions blurry. What it's like looking through the window 280 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 1: of the train, but my vision is blurry, so it 281 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 1: all just looks the same. All the people in the places, 282 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: all the voices in the faces, they all just stare 283 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: right back, you know, long talks, cups of coffee, waking 284 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 1: up and saying sorry, love is right in front of you. 285 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: We could finally see each other if we stop, you know, 286 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: like that's what the song is about. Like you know, 287 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: like yo, like just see what happens if you like 288 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: do that for yourself, you know, and see what happens 289 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: and see when you do that, it helps me understand 290 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: the lyrics so much more because if you tell it 291 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: like a story, even though you're just saying the lyrics, 292 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: it's incredible. Yeah, no, thanks man, Yeah, I think that's 293 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 1: kind of like I always try to speak the lyrics always, 294 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: like even before we finish every session, I'm like, let's 295 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: speak the lyrics. It's like, let's you know, say the 296 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: lyrics like a monologue list, because if we could say 297 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: it that way. One of my musical theater teachers taught 298 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: me that actually in college, Jeffrey Dunn God rests so woman. 299 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: He was like, yo, let's speak. If you can speak, 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 1: let's do the monologue first, and then he used to 301 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: make us do this thing called the caveman, So we 302 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: used to only take like operative words. It'd be like, 303 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: you know, if it's like, uh, look window train vision 304 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: blurry saying uh, you know a vision blurry looks saying 305 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: people places, voices, faces stare back like like that, like 306 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: what are the you know, right, and then you just 307 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: fill them in with the with the other words that 308 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: just make the sense makes sense. Yeah, you know, let's 309 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: just put a bang and beat to it. You know. See, 310 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: I've been so like I love Broadway, I love musical theater, 311 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: and so just past years of junior in high school 312 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: and I decided to take musical theater as an elective. 313 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: So fascinated. We learned all the history of Broadway and 314 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: like it's mind blowing how far it's come, but how 315 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: much it stayed the same too. Yeah, I think I 316 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: think there's an art right to musical theater that that is, 317 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: uh that is so true to that like craft and 318 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: that specific like form of art right and and and 319 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: and and storytelling to like you know, there's nothing like 320 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, people, it is a little ridiculous, right, that's 321 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: someone just burst out in the song, like but it's great. Yeah, 322 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: like yes, right, like, but there's a reason there's in context, 323 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: it's weird, but like there's something about theater, Like I've 324 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: grown up in New York, and it's just like there's 325 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: something about it that when people are like they don't 326 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: like Broadway, like, well, have you ever been to a show? 327 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: And they're like no, I'm like, see that's the issue. 328 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: You can't just judge it off the soundtrack, right, you 329 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: gotta feel it, you gotta you gotta feel the pulse, 330 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: you know. But I think there's that element right that 331 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: that you know, I try to take to my live 332 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: shows right, Like it's not a musical. But the reason 333 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: why I explained the lyrics to you before is it's 334 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: almost like this is the dialogue before exactly right, And 335 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: I won't do that all the time, like and like 336 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and I'm you know, and I'm finding you know, I 337 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: think I think the trick and the goal is right 338 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: to like find more creative ways to just keep the 339 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: post flowing, like a show like Hamilton for example, like 340 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: the Way right, like Hamilton or Layman is right. These 341 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: shows only had music, but and the music just drove 342 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: the show the entire time, and like there was no dialogue, 343 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: there were no scenes. It was just lyrics. It was 344 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: just lyrics and music. Hamilton has fifty songs in it 345 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: like that, you know, some some of one minute and 346 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: some are four minutes. Right, But like what's dope about 347 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: Broadway is like I think the more Broadway diversifies too, 348 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: and the more Broadway um opens his arms to people 349 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: of different races and coaches and color. Right, the nickname 350 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: for Broadway is a Great White Way. You know. It's like, 351 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, if you Puerto Rican and you grew up 352 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: in the projects and whatever, you ain't really it's very 353 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: easy to feel like your chances of working on the 354 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: Great White Way are very slim to none, you know. 355 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: So it's like the more we I think, the more 356 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Broadway opens its doors. And I think you know, Broadways 357 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: doing it, but I think there's a lot of there's 358 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: a lot more to do. Yeah, Like like I love 359 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: that even like Netflix just just um, I think bought 360 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: the rights to Once on This Island, Like that's one 361 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 1: of my home girls. But Jocelyn Jocelyn Bio is right 362 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: in the the book for it, which I'm so exorit 363 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,120 Speaker 1: like that that we need to we have to like 364 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: open the doors for right, these musicals, like people can 365 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: see it that that's like like with Hamilton's on Disney Plus, 366 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 1: because I feel like there's this um saying that, like 367 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 1: people are like, why should we make it like a 368 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: movie and put it online for streaming? It's not gonna 369 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: be the same experience. But then it's like, Okay, if 370 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: you listen to the Taylor Swift album, that doesn't mean 371 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to see her in person, right, right, 372 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: And like look at you look at even some of 373 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: these live shows right justin Timberlay got one on Netflix, 374 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: and Beyonce he's got one up there, Taylor Swift that one. 375 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: People people are streaming these shows. People are streaming these 376 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: live events right like they were live, they were taked 377 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: and you but but there's a way in cinema to 378 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: to to bring people in right, like something there's something 379 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: that is so special in cinema that like where you 380 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: can feel like you're there to speak to what you're saying. 381 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: How like how people have connected to the movie so 382 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: much because folks like you're my director says something real good. 383 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: He was like, you know, Anthony, everybody's got the same 384 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: seat now you guys got the same seat, nobody sitting 385 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: in the back, nobody sitting in the front, and like, 386 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: there's no substitute for life a live event period, Like 387 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: I there's nothing that I want to do more right 388 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: now than play a live show. But at the same time, 389 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: we're able to create these experiences for people online, which 390 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: which is a dope. Second, and thank god for technology 391 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: that we can you know, do a whole set up 392 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 1: at the crib or whatever. You know, we set up 393 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: the drum said, and let's let's put on a show, 394 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,760 Speaker 1: like if you're forced to learn in quarantine. Yeah, I 395 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: didn't know how to use like logic or I didn't 396 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: know how to you know, I didn't know how you 397 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 1: have this stuff from my computer. Now I'm not going 398 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: here like okay, how you do this? Now you're a technician, 399 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: like you got trying. I mean, you know, like you know, 400 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: I can get it done. Like that's all that matters. 401 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: So I've heard you saying someone asked you if you'd 402 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: already musical and you said, you're working on one. Yeah, 403 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 1: how's that going? It's good? I mean I have I 404 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: have like one, uh one that I'm working on. Uh 405 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: that I'm really excited about but it's like we've we're 406 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:43,160 Speaker 1: like six songs and more like five and and I think, 407 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I got really inspired by the Nativity. I thought, 408 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a holiday show, but I 409 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: don't picture it as a holiday show. I feel like 410 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, Jesus Christ Superstarker play and at 411 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,919 Speaker 1: any time right like and I feel like this joint 412 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: was about like the people around the like Nativity, change 413 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: it up. These were like people who I'm like, yo, 414 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: Mary was Mary had to go tell her man that 415 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: she's having a baby, but she like then sheet on 416 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,239 Speaker 1: him and he's like, yo, hold on, who you how 417 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: are you even pregnant? Then? And she's like, you know, 418 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: the Holy Spirit. He's like, I don't know that, dude. 419 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: You feel like someone saying that now it's like a 420 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: reason they get pregnant, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, 421 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: we're working it out, but but I'll let you you 422 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 1: be one of the first to know when when when 423 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: this thing is ready for people, I invite you to 424 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the reading. Yeah, if you're cure and if in New York, 425 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: oh absolutely all right. We have to take a quick break. 426 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: But when we come back, we're gonna be talking all 427 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: things behind the scenes of Hamilton's your starring role and 428 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 1: in the heights of the movie and we're back. So 429 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Hamilton, like many like many others, 430 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and I just have some questions that I just need 431 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: to be cleared up. Yeah, so insatisfied. They reverse the 432 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: choreography like to the exact and it kind of freaks 433 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: me out how perfect and distinct it is. What was 434 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: it like? Learning that? It was the worst thing ever. 435 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: It was so hard. It was probably the single hardest 436 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: thing I've done. Like, how did you think? However, how 437 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: long did that take? I mean, so we it took long. 438 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: We started learning it, like we started learning it even 439 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: before we went to the public theater, you know, and 440 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: brought like we we did like a like they call 441 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: him like workshops, like we did like a lab of 442 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: the show. We started learning helpless. Helpless was hard already 443 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: and then he said, Yo, we're gonna do this but 444 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: backwards and there's a move and on a turntable, and 445 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I had I had so many hours, 446 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: there's so many hours. And then we start learning. After 447 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: that lab, we learned it but we didn't have a turntable, 448 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: and then they added the turntable. It's a production so 449 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: we basically had to learn it again. It was it 450 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: was wild, Like my brain, the frustration I cannot explain 451 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: you the frustration then that that I experienced with that 452 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: we're learning that. It was crazy. But I can't imagine. 453 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: It's the most insane thing ever. When I felt people 454 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: who watched on the zee bus, I'm like, Okay, watch 455 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: it again. Make sure you notice that they do it 456 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: all because it brings an entire other element to it. Yeah. Yeah, 457 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: because you know she's she's recounting the moment in her 458 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: head like she's recalling the dot just brilliant her head. 459 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: And it's I mean, Andy Blank Abler, our choreographer, is uh. 460 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: We call him the mad Scientist. That's his nickname. He's 461 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: uh because just just no one understands how he's able 462 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: to u come up with the ideas that he comes 463 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: up with. It's just it's crazy, you know. Yeah. And 464 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: so we actually had so Geordan Fisher was my first 465 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: ever interview when I was thirteen. Come on, how so 466 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: we had him on my part cast which was so 467 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: full circle um, and he called Linman while we're into 468 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: the modern day Shakespeare, which I think is the most 469 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: accurate term I've heard yet. Okay, do you do you 470 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: agree that or do you have another name that you'd 471 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 1: like to go for? No, I think he I think 472 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: that's it. He's the fort sure of us should be 473 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: twitter Bio. I think we all call him that, Like, 474 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, like, who would have ever thought that hip 475 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: hop would would uh cross over right into Broadway and 476 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: in the same in the same space where like there's 477 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: like Rogers and Hammerstein and then Stephen sin Well. Actually 478 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: Stephen Sondheim was writing raps and I don't even think 479 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: he knew he was writing rhymes. When you you listen 480 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: into the Woods, you listen to song like, uh, your fault, 481 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: and it's like, well, it isn't my fault. He was 482 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,399 Speaker 1: giving those beans. You persuaded him the trader with my 483 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 1: cow for beans, but without those beans that have been 484 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: no stock to get up to. The giants in the 485 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: first place may have any magic, like they spit. They 486 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: really are, and you don't think of it that way 487 00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: because it's it's crazy to me. Um. I actually I 488 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: did a piece for Radio Disney Worry on backstage a 489 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 1: Broadway on Hamilton's and I learned that the dress and 490 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 1: burn that Eliza's dress is flame returned. So I was 491 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 1: wondering if there's any other little secrets like that that 492 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: you know of they could share. I didn't know that. Damn, 493 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: that's no sae. Yeah, I'm like dang wow, like any 494 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: like any like little things that people might not know. Yeah, 495 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: because I remember I lifted one of the costumes and 496 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: they were heavy. Oh yeah, the customes are crazy, like 497 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: it's uh, I think I think something people might not 498 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: know is um, I wore a wig, and uh, I 499 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: wore wig like towards if you really like look closely, 500 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,199 Speaker 1: I mean you won't see it. You won't see it 501 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: in the movie because in the movie it was still 502 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: my real hair. But I had got the TV show 503 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: and I started working on that on the Netflix joint, 504 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: She's got to Have It. But I cut my hair 505 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: um a little bit, and our director was like, yo, 506 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: we gotta give you a wig. So I used Rene's 507 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: off Way that she wore off Broadway. They snipped it 508 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 1: up to the length of my head. Well, first it 509 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: was too long, so I looked like some like it 510 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: looked all greasy and curly and like it was. It 511 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,719 Speaker 1: was not a vibe at all. It was so you know, 512 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: like it was to the point where I would I 513 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: went on stage with that way and and uh, my 514 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: cast members didn't know I was gonna be wearing a wig. 515 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: And I walked out on stage and they start laughing. 516 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: So we start My Shot and we're singing it with 517 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: like we're doing my Shot, were doing it, We're doing it, 518 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: and my cast fombers started laughing on stage, and then 519 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: I started laughing. Oh I think I started laughing, and 520 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: they because they everybody was. We just all laughing, and 521 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: we could not get through Um, we couldn't get through 522 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 1: My Shot. We couldn't get through Story of Tonight. And 523 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: it lasted all the way until until through Story of 524 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 1: Tonight live performance. I feel like with those songs, that 525 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of works because your characters are like the Bros 526 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: and that, so it kind of works the laugh and 527 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: kind of fits in. It's not like in burn is 528 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: that what happened? It doesn't work when you don't sing 529 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: the lyrics because you know, you know, we were laughing 530 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: and not singing the lyrics, like it was like we're 531 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: just laughing on stage. People must have been looking at 532 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: us like, yo, what are they laughing at? I'm talking 533 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: like red in the face show the gut, laughing, stomach hurting. Yes, 534 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: it was crazy because nobody thought I was gonna have 535 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: this wig on. Then they cut it. It looked a 536 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: little more like natural. People couldn't kind of couldn't tell 537 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: that I was wearing a wig. Do you have the wig? No? Wow, 538 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: I should get that wig. Dude, you should you just 539 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: wear for interviews and not say anything. You're right, I 540 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: should get that wig back, I think. So. Do you 541 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: have any cool Hamilton's pieces at your house, like something 542 00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: from the show. Did you ever take anything or did 543 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: they not allow you? I took my Philip letter. Yeah, 544 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: I took that letter. I can't I'm not gonna frame 545 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 1: it storage, but yeah, it's it's I took my Philip blood. 546 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: I wanted it. I wanted to have something so so 547 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: so I took the little note and it actually has 548 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: the poem on it, you know, the daddy Daddy learned 549 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: my name is Philip. Oh my gosh, that's so cool. 550 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 1: There is um. I was listening to the soundtrack the 551 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: other day and um in like this, stay alive reprize, 552 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: like when your character is dying, I realized there's a heartbeat, 553 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: like very like and I was like, oh my god, 554 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: Like that just brought it to a whole other level, 555 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: because like, I can listen to the soundtrack so many 556 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: times and I'll still pick up on these things that 557 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 1: like have these like connections that you don't even realize. 558 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: So when you were on the show, did you ever 559 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 1: realize these like little nuances that you that just like 560 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: even if you've done it like a hundred times, you're 561 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Like when I watched the movie, I saw new things. 562 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: I saw like reactions I had never seen before from people, 563 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 1: like this one reaction Renee gives Leslie and um Skyt's sisters. 564 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: There's this look she gives him after that the time 565 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 1: I've been reading time and since by Thomas Paine and 566 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: some men say that I'm intense a I'm just saying 567 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: and he's like, you know, I'm a trust fund baby, 568 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: you could trust me and uh and she like looks 569 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: like she gives him this look and it is you know, 570 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: I was like, probably one of the best moments of 571 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 1: the show right there, right there, right there, I was like, 572 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen that and then just like interactions between 573 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: like Lynn and Leslie and like the ensemble, like seeing 574 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: like the way, like certain reactions like f from the 575 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: Way from Sykes reacts to Chris Jackson and Lynn when 576 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: they're when they're doing UM, they're having that argument off 577 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: to the side, and he tells me to see it 578 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: because like you're on the side of the stage. Yeah, 579 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: when we're backstage, we're just chilling, like we're just waiting 580 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: to come on stage. Like it's not like we're like, 581 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, in this like mode. Like I'm like, you know, 582 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: when you've done the show, so never talks to the 583 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: whole shown. I mean from the side, watched it na, 584 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: because you're doing it so much. Trust I'm gonna tell 585 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: you right now. No, sadly, I've not watched it, but 586 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: from the side. I watched it out in the audience. 587 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 1: So I did go out a couple of times and 588 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: watched it. UM. Sometimes it's hard to watch it from 589 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: the side because you're just like you're changing your costume, 590 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,959 Speaker 1: or you're like I'm going you're going to the out 591 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: side of the stage for something, or you know eating. 592 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not well, I'll be eating during shows 593 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: sometimes because I was like, I got to eat dinner, 594 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 1: and I'd be like grubbing if I if I had, 595 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, especially in the second act, because I wasn't 596 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: on stage a lot, so I'll be like. That was 597 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: when I was like, I mean, you've got to get 598 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: prepared to die for like the second time. You got 599 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: to feel yourself for that, right you know. Oh, I 600 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: got a story about that. So I was eating goldfish 601 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: backstage during uh, the last scene during Stay Alive before 602 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 1: I die the in the show I had right the 603 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: second time, I had goldfish in my teeth on stage. 604 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: So Lena's over here and Pepper are crying over me, 605 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: like having this like dramatic like seeing, and I got like, yo, 606 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I got gold fish in my teeth and I didn't 607 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: even know I had it there. And Lynn was like, Bro, 608 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: I could barely focus because all I could focus on 609 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: was the pieces of gold fish you had in your teeth, bro. 610 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: And my cat still tells that story to this day. 611 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: I had chicken too, I I has I had some 612 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: chicken that felt oh, but I had so I had 613 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: gold fish in my pocket too because I was eating 614 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: them and my constume, so I put in the pocket 615 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,479 Speaker 1: I don't recommend people, you know, don't costume, especially when 616 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: you're at the young stage. But one of them fell 617 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 1: out and they were just on It was just on 618 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: the turntable, at this little gold fish on the turntable. 619 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Somebody took it off. I can't remember who it was, 620 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: but I wish that was reformed the videotape. Yeah it was. 621 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: It's not one of my brightest moments, but it's definitely 622 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: good story to Okay, we have to take one more 623 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 1: quick break, but when we come back, we're going to 624 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: talk about your upcoming movie In the Heights and we're back. 625 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: You know, I'm really sad that In the Height isn't 626 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: coming out with year. You have to wait a whole 627 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: other year. So just to like, can you give me 628 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: anything like a good story from on set to hold 629 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: me over for another year? So I got a few. 630 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: But there's a we shoot nineties six thousand. There's a number. 631 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: There's a song called ninety six in the Heights and 632 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: everybody's like it's about like winning the lotto and what 633 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: would that be like for you? Like what would you 634 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: do with this money if you want it? Like, you know, 635 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: what dreams would you feel like you'd be able to 636 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: achieve if you had this kind of money. And and 637 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: we were singing this song and we're doing this at 638 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: the public pool in Washington Heights. But YO, when I 639 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: tell you that water was like sub zero, it's gonna 640 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: so when you watch the scene, it's gonna look like 641 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: the most beautiful summer day you've ever seen. It was gray. 642 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: It rained all three days and the water was freezing. 643 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: Magic of editing, Yo, when I tell you, you're gonna 644 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: see the section where it's like, I'm like, it's something 645 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: when we get into these crazy hypotheticals and I'm singing 646 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: that and I'm walking through the water, Corey is walking 647 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: through like right, I am doing my best. They must 648 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: have colored my lips because they were purple. There were 649 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: seventy dances in that water, dancing and people were like, yo, 650 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 1: like one of the dances like Yo, I can't even 651 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: I can't even do this, Like I can't, I can't 652 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: actually physically too hypothermia, like yo. But it was it was. 653 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: It was wild, but like it was that. That was 654 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the greatest experiences of my life. Man, shooting 655 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: that film, like we had. We shot another number called 656 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: God a bio and we we shot this in an 657 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: alleyway between four buildings, four apartment buildings, and it was 658 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: about sixty five of us that day. And it probably 659 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: should have been a two day shoot, right, you know, 660 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: we should have had two days theoretically to shoot this. 661 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: We only have one. And john't you our director pulled 662 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: off one of the great like one of the most 663 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: amazing days I've ever seen a director pull off. And 664 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: like this cast just everybody came together in a way 665 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: that was so special. That probably is the singular most 666 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: special day I've ever had on the set just in 667 00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: general in my life that day, it's like a community. 668 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 1: It was just it was just like in were in 669 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: Washington High School in this alleyway. We're singing about community, 670 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: were singing about love, We're singing about family, were saying 671 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: about pride and where we all come from. You know, 672 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: you're singing songs about Sette. I like raise your flag 673 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: like you know, like like you know, I saw I 674 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: don't think yet, I like raise it whatever you want, 675 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, you know, it's just like this this pride, 676 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: like having this moment, I feel like I think that's 677 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: why I am just so like in love with Limen 678 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: Wealth work because it's it's like it's an escape and 679 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: it just it kind of makes you think, like what 680 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: you want the world to be, Yeah, especially what it's 681 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: going on now. Yeah. Now he's you know, he's brilliant, 682 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 1: and you know, he's giving me you know, being being 683 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: a part of these movies and shows and all that 684 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 1: has given me an opportunity to, like, you know, I 685 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: started writing songs because I got inspired by him, you know, 686 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 1: I got inspired by you know. I'm like, he's telling 687 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: his story. He's telling these stories. He wants to tell. 688 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: What's the story I want to tell? You know, And 689 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: that's that's how the good and the bad happens, right 690 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: That's how that album happens. That's how you know, that's 691 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 1: how a second Oltum Now happens. Like that's how these 692 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 1: music videos happened right there. All Like even in my videos, 693 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: every video is like a mini movie. I'm like, yo, 694 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: how can we how can we tell the story? Like? Um, 695 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm really excited for for the Stop video 696 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: because we we um you know, not to give too 697 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: much away, but the main character is not me in 698 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: the video, which I'm so excited about. It's this guy 699 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 1: named Anthony Pain who I something on Instagram. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 700 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: I posted something on Instagram about him, and and um, 701 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: you know he was cutting hair. Um. You know, after 702 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,759 Speaker 1: George Floyd was was murdered, he lost his job first 703 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: of all, in March, lost his job at this at 704 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: this hair salon, and he stopped, you know, he wasn't 705 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: cutting here for a minute, and then he just felt like, 706 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: I have to do something from my community. I have 707 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: to do something for the career, and I do something 708 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: for my people, do something for the community. He went 709 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: out there, set up a chair underneath the Wind's birth 710 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: Bridge and my man's was just cutting hair for donation 711 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: base and every every donation with the went to an 712 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: organization that was working with Black Lives Matter. You know, 713 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: there's nothing more beautiful than somebody just wanting to serve 714 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 1: and give. I mean, do that with grace. You know, 715 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: when you did the movie Monsters and Men, I thought 716 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 1: it was so meaningful, especially with everything else going on 717 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: in the world. It's kind of very similar to what 718 00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: happened with George Floyd. Yeah, and it's crazy how things 719 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: like hit differently now with what's going on in the world. Um, 720 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: and I just want to thank you for putting out 721 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: work that's so meaningful that it's actually making an impact society, 722 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: that's not just talking about like oh my god, I 723 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: went shopping. Yeah, um no man, thanks man, I mean 724 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. You know, it takes people to listen to, right, Like, 725 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: so that's you know that that's that's really it. You know, 726 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: like you try to put out things that matter to 727 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: you and things that mean a lot to you, and 728 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: then you you you hope that people open up their 729 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: their their ears and eyes and hearts, right and you 730 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: hope they get something from it. So so thank you 731 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: for watching and listening. And you know what I'm saying, Like, 732 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's because of you that the next person 733 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: finds out about it, and then the next person finds 734 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: out about it, and then and then here we are, 735 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: right Like, you know, for season two of my podcast, 736 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to mix it up a bit. With all 737 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: the negativity going on in the world today, I feel 738 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: very helpless. No Hamilton's pun intended. I wanted to give 739 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: each of my guests the opportunity to promote a charity 740 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: they work with that means a lot to them and 741 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: deserve support from all of us. Is there any charity 742 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: you can tell us about. Yeah, I mean so I've 743 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: worked with an organization called Katie's Art Project, and um, 744 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: Katie's Our Project is incredible. Uh. They bring together patients 745 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: with like terminal illnesses with artists and it's like more 746 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: than like it's like make a wish, but not like like, 747 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: let's we're gonna bring these artists together. But they're gonna 748 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: and this patient, but they're gonna make some kind of artist. 749 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: They're gonna write a song together, or they're gonna film 750 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: something together. They're gonna make something that they create together. 751 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: Today Smile Tomorrow. That's how Cry Today, Smile Tomorrow came about. 752 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:42,880 Speaker 1: So you saw that, so come on, But that's that's 753 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,839 Speaker 1: exactly so Cry Today, Smile Tomorrow. We wrote my boy 754 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: Willing and myself and Dariel cadet Um who she had cancer. 755 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: Thank god she beat it. Um. She's an incredible human being. 756 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: You could see her story. Everybody listening you could. You 757 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: could watch her story on YouTube. We've got you can 758 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: look it up. It's on my YouTube channel. The story 759 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: behind Cry Today, Smile Tomorrow. You can listen to the 760 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,760 Speaker 1: song there too. But this song was just about her life. 761 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 1: Every lyric was something she said and we just transcribed it. 762 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 1: Everything every lyric was inspired by something she said, a 763 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: story that she told that day. We wrote that song 764 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: in nine hours. I cut the vocal in an hour, 765 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: and I re cut the vocal another day just because 766 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: I was I was like, we gotta get this right. 767 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,879 Speaker 1: It's gotta be it's gotta be good. And then, um, 768 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: thank god, you know, we were able to put it out. 769 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: So it's Um, Stephanie Clemens, who is the associate choreographer Hamilton's. 770 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 1: That's her organization. So UM, I encourage everybody you please 771 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: give to the Katie's Our project. They're doing amazing work 772 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: and she's bringing hope to to you know, to so 773 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: many people. So just like you know, I want to 774 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: support her in that organization. It's incredible organization. Please go 775 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,399 Speaker 1: check it out. We will. I will have a link 776 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: to my Instagram. And I'm really excited. Anthony, thank you 777 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: so much. Come on, come on, come on, Sammy doing 778 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: uh doing all that's important work in the world. I'm saying, 779 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: been seeing may come on, Anthony, thank you so much. 780 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: This was awesome. You're doing amazing work and I'm just 781 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: so I'm honored that you have me on your show, 782 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: and and uh and and and thank you so much, 783 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: thank you for really I hope you guys enjoyed this episode. Anthony, 784 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: thank you so much again for taking the time to 785 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 1: come on my podcast. It truly means so much. Don't 786 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: forget to listen to his single Stop the Good and 787 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: the Bad Hambleton. If you've been living under a rock, 788 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: don't forget to follow him on Instagram and Anthony Ramos Official, 789 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 1: and also follow me at It's Sammy J. That's I 790 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 1: T S S A M M Y J A y E. 791 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,800 Speaker 1: I am so excited for what's to come this season. 792 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520 Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. I look forward 793 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: to your feedback. Don't forget subscribed and leave a comment. 794 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 1: I want to know your thoughts. All right, you guys, 795 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: See you guys next week. Bye,