WEBVTT - A Mystery Turned Scandal | Chandra Levy 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:07.400 You're listening to Facing Evil, a production of iHeartRadio and 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:11.160 Tenderfoot TV. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast 0:00:11.320 --> 0:00:14.080 are solely those of the individuals participating in the show 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:17.560 and do not represent those of iHeartRadio or Tenderfoot TV. 0:00:18.200 --> 0:00:21.280 This podcast contains subject matter which may not be suitable 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.160 for everyone. Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:31.639 Hi everyone, welcome back to Facing Evil from Tenderfoot TV 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.240 and iHeartRadio. We are your host. 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:36.560 I'm Yvette Gentiela. 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:41.240 And I'm Roschia Paquerero, and as always, our fabulous producer, 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:42.680 mister Trevor Young is with us. 0:00:43.120 --> 0:00:44.599 Hey there, Happy November. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:48.480 Happy No November. Trevor. I can't believe the years almost over. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.479 I know, I've had this on my mind for you know, 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:56.240 probably the last couple of weeks. You know, we talked about, 0:00:56.520 --> 0:00:59.520 you know, Kenny Genove's right, a couple of weeks Togo, 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:04.800 and it just stuck with me, like how she kind 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.840 of got lost, you know, back then in that era, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:11.679 because you know, they were so focused on the thirty 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:17.000 eight bystanders that we really lost focus of who Kitty 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.640 was and what her story was about, you know, And 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:23.840 today we're going to be talking about Schandra Levy and again, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:29.600 you know, another young woman taken too soon, and again 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:34.560 the media loses focus because they they get so fixated 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.880 on you know, the Gary condit, the political candidate. 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:40.600 The sensationalism of it all. 0:01:40.920 --> 0:01:44.360 Right, I feel so proud, you know what we're doing 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:49.920 here on Facing Evil, because we really want to highlight 0:01:50.680 --> 0:01:55.600 you know, who these women were, you know, at the 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:59.320 peak of their career, just about to get started, and 0:01:59.360 --> 0:02:04.320 then something horrible happens to them, and again their story 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:05.200 gets lost. 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:08.400 Yeah, I mean, I think that's definitely a thing we 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:11.640 try and do on Facing Evil, right, is strip away 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.440 all the fluff and try and get down to the 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.680 stories of these victims, right, and talk about it from 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:20.959 an angle that maybe not everybody else talks about. Yes, 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.600 and that is the person, right that's getting to the 0:02:25.000 --> 0:02:27.839 real empathy of any of these cases as talking about 0:02:27.880 --> 0:02:31.120 the victims. So, you know, I think that's great and 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.520 I think this case today's probably a great example of. 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:35.160 That, absolutely, Trevor. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.600 And with that being said, will you please take us 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:39.960 through today's case. 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.120 The search is on in the district for a missing woman. 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:47.840 Her name is Chandra Ann Levy. She is twenty four 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.880 years old and hasn't been seen since April thirtieth. Susan 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:56.080 Leevy came to our city with the mission she wanted 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.480 to know where her daughter was. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:00.560 What happened. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.480 A staffer for the congressman says there was no romantic 0:03:04.560 --> 0:03:08.359 relationship between the congressman and miss Levy. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.360 Chandra Levy was a twenty four year old woman who 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:15.560 disappeared in May of two thousand and one. At the time, 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.560 she had just wrapped up an internship in Washington, d C. 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.639 And was getting ready to go back home to California. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:26.360 But Chandra never made it home. On May sixth Chondra's 0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:30.320 parents contacted DC police, saying they hadn't heard from her 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:33.960 in days, and so a search began, but they didn't 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.760 find her. Months later, her remains were discovered by a 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:41.720 hiker in Rock Creek Park. The story of Chondra Levy's 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:45.440 disappearance and death became a national obsession when it came 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:48.720 to light that Levy had a romantic relationship with a 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:52.640 married congressman leading up to her death. The investigation and 0:03:52.720 --> 0:03:56.800 eventual prosecution were marred by ineptitude, and to this day, 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.400 it's unclear who killed Chondra Levy, and so who was 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.600 Schondra Levy? Who was actually responsible for her murder? And 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:08.360 what does this story tell us about how police handle 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:15.280 homicide investigations when a high profile politician is involved. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.360 So Russia, I remember that this was one of those 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:24.240 cases that was literally all over the media, and again, 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.080 people couldn't stop talking about it. And I remember living 0:04:28.640 --> 0:04:32.080 in LA because this was in two thousand and one, right, yeah, 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:37.560 together with mom, and I remember being somewhat fixated on 0:04:37.640 --> 0:04:42.440 it because you know, again we're talking about a young woman, 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:46.000 a young intern, right and going back years ago to 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:50.320 the Bill Clinton error with Monica Lewinsky. So I definitely 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:54.919 was captivated by this particular case. 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:56.760 Yeah, I think we all were. 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:00.719 And I remember, you know, her face on every magaz on, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:04.800 every you know, news story, every headline, and Trevor, like 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:06.520 you said in the top of the episode, you know, 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:11.760 there was this young, smart, you know, student, just on 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:15.280 the cusp of what seemed like such a bright and 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:20.240 sparkling future, and she likely had this high profile affair 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:24.720 with this lawmaker, and people were talking about whether or 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:26.599 not that had been a cover up, if he was 0:05:26.640 --> 0:05:30.560 involved somehow it, you know, I mean again, like you said, 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:33.359 you met Monica Lewinsky, Bill Clinton, Like, all these things 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.280 go through all of our heads, and I'll admit that's 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:38.719 I think why I was captivated at first. 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.680 Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I do think that unlike the Bill 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:46.719 Clinton and Monica Lewinsky scandal, this case had a relatively 0:05:46.760 --> 0:05:50.520 shorter lifespan. You know, there was definitely a period in 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:52.960 the media where this case was obsessed over because of 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.360 the you know, quote unquote scandalous relationship with a politician. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.560 But you know, those leads connecting the politics to her 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:04.640 murder eventually did go try and it became very clear 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.000 that the authorities had just kind of botched this investigation. 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.600 And that is kind of when the public's attention started 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:14.440 looking away from it, it wasn't as interesting anymore, right, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:16.920 And that's kind of a big tragedy in this case. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:21.279 So I think there are many moments where the police 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:24.919 mishandled their job. They mishandled this investigation. They try and 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:27.640 pin it on someone else, and I think you can't 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:30.760 really like help, but wonder, like, had more of the 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:33.040 public eye state on them, would they have done a 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:37.960 better job? Right? Would this have gotten solved eventually? Right? True? True. True. 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.880 I mean, you know, let's just begin with our classic question. 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:44.440 Who was Chandra Levy? 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:49.479 Chandra Levy was twenty four years old. She was born 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:53.880 in Ohio, but the family moved to California, and actually 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.320 it was Modesto where she went to high school. She 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.719 ended up graduating from San Francisco State Universe with a 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:04.159 degree in journalism, and she briefly worked in the office 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.240 of the Los Angeles Mayor. She then enrolled in graduate 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.280 school at the University of Southern California for a master's 0:07:10.360 --> 0:07:14.480 in public administration. In September of two thousand. She ended 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.440 up moving to Washington, d C. And it was there 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.440 that she worked as an intern with the Federal Bureau 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:21.360 of Prisons. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:22.400 And this is. 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:26.560 Where she met Gary Kandit Condent was a Democratic congressman 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:31.239 from California. He was also fifty two years old and married, 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:35.520 and he took a liking to Chandra. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.720 Yeah. I mean, obviously, this is something we see a lot, right, 0:07:38.840 --> 0:07:44.120 is that older politicians men almost always, right, almost always 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.440 find themselves in a position of power where they can 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:52.200 potentially take advantage of a young intern. Right. You heard 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.960 about this a lot in the nineties and two thousand. 0:07:54.280 --> 0:07:55.840 Yes, that's right. 0:07:56.960 --> 0:08:01.240 And apparently on a visit Duram Thanksgiving, Chandra tells her 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:05.960 aunt that she's seen someone, but she refuses to name 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:10.320 any names. However, she did reportedly tell her aunt that 0:08:10.480 --> 0:08:15.400 her boyfriend was in his fifties and he looked like 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.480 Harrison Ford, which he didn't. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.080 I'm just saying I. 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:21.200 Think he did a little bit. I think he looked 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:22.760 a little bit like Harrison Ford. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:27.920 I mean, just because he's older, with salt and pepper hair. Yeah, 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:31.200 but she did reveal that her boyfriend was in fact 0:08:31.680 --> 0:08:35.320 a congressman, So she's leaving a lot of hints, but 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:36.520 never said the name. 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:40.400 Yeah, she never said the name specifically to anyone that 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:42.160 we know of, right right. 0:08:43.120 --> 0:08:47.040 Anyway, the next month, over winter break, she emails a 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:50.719 friend and says, and this is her quote, my man 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:53.839 will be coming back here when Congress starts up again, 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:58.600 and I'm looking forward to seeing him again. She's not 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:03.040 naming it the names, She's not being specific, right, right. 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.680 So in January, Chandra tells her landlord that she won't 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:10.680 be renewing her lease because she'll be moving in with 0:09:10.800 --> 0:09:16.920 her boyfriend. But by February she changed plans and tells 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:19.680 her landlord that it hadn't worked out. 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:25.199 Okay, so I guess that's that and the relationship was over. Anyway, 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.000 we do know that April twenty third is the last 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.240 day of Chandra's internship, and we also know that on 0:09:31.240 --> 0:09:36.760 April twenty ninth, Gary Condit actually called Chandra, and on 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.200 the same day, Chondra called her Auntie in Marylyn and 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:44.239 left her a message saying she has quote some big news. 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:46.960 Yeah, but we just don't know what was said on 0:09:46.960 --> 0:09:48.480 that phone call, right. 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.200 Nobody knows what the big news was, right, Yeah. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.600 I mean I don't think we ever really do. We 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.160 do know she's set to go back to California for 0:09:57.200 --> 0:10:01.480 her graduation from USC which is scheduled for May eleventh 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.959 that year, and in an April twenty eighth email to 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:07.359 her landlord, she wrote, quote, I'm moving back to California 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.880 for my graduation and I'm moving back there for good 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:13.760 end quote. And then on May first, she emailed her 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:17.320 parents with her travel plans, but again doesn't mention specific 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.880 times or how she'll be getting home. That email was 0:10:20.920 --> 0:10:24.040 sent at ten forty five am Eastern time that day 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.079 May first, and that is actually the last known communication 0:10:27.360 --> 0:10:31.400 from Chandra Levy, and we'll talk about what happened after 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:32.400 we take a quick break. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.920 Five days pass and Chandra Levy's parents haven't heard anything 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:44.560 from her, so of course they're getting worried. 0:10:45.080 --> 0:10:47.600 They end up calling the police. That's right, rash. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:49.840 And of course this is in the days before everyone 0:10:49.960 --> 0:10:53.679 necessarily had a cell phone. And I'm thinking of her 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:58.880 traveling across the country right without the ability to get 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.960 in touch with her parents or you know, anybody whenever 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:07.000 she wanted. It just seems a bit strange, right. We 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:09.920 used to do things like that. I mean, I take 0:11:09.920 --> 0:11:13.600 that back. We really didn't do things like that because 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.320 we always had a cell phone when the cell phones 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.440 came out. But the thing is, did Chondra actually have 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:21.160 a cell phone? 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:22.160 Trevor, Do we know? 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.040 Yeah? I mean, as you're alluding to, not everybody had 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:28.000 cell phones back then, but Chondra did have one that 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.480 we know of, and it is one of the items 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.640 that police find when they search her DC apartment after 0:11:33.720 --> 0:11:37.240 she goes missing. So a couple other things they find. 0:11:37.440 --> 0:11:40.520 They find two partially packed bags, a couple clothes. In 0:11:40.520 --> 0:11:43.480 the closet, they find her running shoes, her driver's license, 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:47.280 a few other things like receipts and credit cards. However, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.560 most notably, her apartment keys are missing. 0:11:51.000 --> 0:11:54.760 Okay, so her keys were missing, but her driver's license, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.400 her credit cards, and her cell phone were still in 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:02.880 the apartment, right, seems a bit off right. It feels 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.640 like if you're leaving the house, like you would definitely 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:10.560 take your driver's license at the very least. It just 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.680 makes you think, like, was she abducted from her apartment? 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:14.520 Yeah? 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:15.080 Possibly? 0:12:15.400 --> 0:12:18.440 I mean, or you know, like we've been seeing this 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:20.880 entire time again in two thousand and one, not everyone 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:24.760 you know had a cell phone. They wouldn't necessarily carry 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.679 them everywhere that they went, of course, you know, you 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:31.040 and I did. It's but it's nothing like today, right, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:34.360 so we are always attached to our phones. There's location 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.160 services on it, all the things. But she could have 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:39.840 left her apartment without all of those things. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.640 Yeah, And I guess we'll never really know. And the 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.959 sad truth there is the reason for that is that 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.559 the police failed to obtain the surveillance camera footage from 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.640 the apartment building, even though it was in fact readily 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.760 available at least for a short period. So there was 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.079 a surveillance camera recording everyone who came and left the building. 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:03.959 Had police actually secured that footage, then presumably they could 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.880 have seen Chandra when she left the apartment and that 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.840 would have told them if she was with anyone, what 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:11.959 she was wearing, et cetera, et cetera. But they did 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.600 not secure that footage and it was recorded over after 0:13:14.640 --> 0:13:17.360 a few days. So if you remember back then, any 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:20.040 sort of videotape recording, and this include security footage was 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:24.000 all analog. It was on you know, tapes, and so 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.360 they couldn't just digitally save it to the cloud, you know, 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:28.880 days and days worth of it. They would have to 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.400 re record over the tape, you know, every week or 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.640 month or whatever it is, to save on tape. So 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.440 because they didn't get it soon enough, they lost it 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.719 and therefore we don't know what happened when she left 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:41.200 the apartment. 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.760 Gosh, I mean, that's just like when you think about it, 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:48.040 it's just you know, failed police. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:49.200 Work one oh one, you know. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:53.839 To secure the footage like that would be the first 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.000 thing you would want to see is you know, what 0:13:56.120 --> 0:14:00.280 time did she leave the apartment and who possibly came 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:01.719 into the apartment, right. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:03.920 Yeah, I mean I guess there's maybe an excuse there 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:07.160 that CCTV and things of that sort were much newer 0:14:07.280 --> 0:14:09.600 back in the nineties and early two thousands, right, I mean, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.760 investigators maybe didn't have any uniform way to check for 0:14:13.800 --> 0:14:16.360 that sort of thing at the time. But to me, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:19.160 it's just incompetence, like if you know that exists, like 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:20.360 do something about it. 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:20.920 Yeah. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.880 So I think it's just the first of many things 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.360 we see in this case that is very disappointing, right. 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.880 Yeah, very disappointing for sure. Okay, So around this time, 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:35.400 Chandra's mother calls Gary Condit herself and asks him for 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.760 help in finding Chandra. And it's during this call that 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:42.040 she also asks him if he was having an affair 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:48.000 with her daughter, and he says, quote unquote no. H. 0:14:48.840 --> 0:14:53.080 He also donates ten thousand dollars of his campaign money 0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:57.480 towards the reward to find Chandra, and he releases a 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:01.320 news statement calling her, and this is a quote from him, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.880 a great person and a good friend. 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:10.720 Okay, So, whether or not he actually had an affair 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:15.840 with Chandra, I believe, in my humble opinion that this 0:15:15.920 --> 0:15:22.080 is definitely Cyowa cover your own ass language for trying 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:25.840 to save his marriage if there was a relationship going 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.120 on more than just a friendship, and he's trying to 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:31.560 save his political career because you know, I mean, I'm 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:36.440 sure he saw what happened with Clinton and other people, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.000 but I don't know. It just feels just feels fishy 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:40.200 to me. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.640 I totally agree with you, Russia. But there's more. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:47.560 The next month, in June, a Washington Post story is 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:52.280 published and according to the story, law enforcement sources say 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:56.800 that Chandra Levy spent the night at Condit's house. The 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:01.840 report doesn't say which night, and you know what. Condent's 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:07.960 office also denied any romantic involvement, and his lawyers demanded 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.720 a retraction, but the paper wouldn't retract it. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:12.240 Yeah. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.160 I mean, I can see why the press is obsessed 0:16:15.320 --> 0:16:17.880 with this scary content a fair angle. 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.720 It's fishy again, fishy, fishy, fishy. 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.160 I can see the obsession and why they were leaning 0:16:23.200 --> 0:16:25.000 this way like that does not look good for him. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.200 Yeah, I mean, going back again to the kind of 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.960 obsession that the media has with political scandals. You know, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.360 anytime a young woman like this is killed, obviously that's horrible, 0:16:35.400 --> 0:16:38.240 that's terrible. But when there's some sort of high profile 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:41.520 person involved. You can almost guarantee that's going to make 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:45.480 like front page news for days, weeks, even months. So 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:48.680 you know, Condit's in the spotlight here and he's kind 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:52.160 of thinking like, I have to, you know, play this right, 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.160 or it's going to ruin my career. And so during 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.800 this time Condit agrees to kind of play ball with 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.600 the investigators. So he submitted a DNA sample to police, 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.040 and then he takes and passes a light detector test. 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.440 Well, that is very telling for sure. And meanwhile, the 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:13.399 result from search data on Schandra's laptop from a first 0:17:13.440 --> 0:17:17.680 are finally revealed. They show that she used the Internet 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:22.000 until one pm that day and that she visited the 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:26.359 site for USA Today, the Drudge Report, and the Washington Post, 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:29.199 all of which you know you would expect considering what 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:32.720 she was interested in. But it also reveals a map 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:36.360 quest search for a place called Klingle Mansion in Rock 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:41.400 Creek Park. So Rock Creek Park is Washington, DC's big 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:45.560 urban park, and Klingle Mansion is apparently this historic house 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:48.440 from the eighteen hundreds which is located in a very 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:51.800 secluded part of the park, and at that time, in 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.399 two thousand and one, the trail to get to Klingle 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:58.399 Mansion was actually closed, so you'd have to know your 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.359 way around to know where it was and that it 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.040 was even there or how to find it. 0:18:04.600 --> 0:18:07.720 So maybe that's where she went, right without her cell phone. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.560 I mean, maybe she went on a run. Right, it's 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:14.719 a trail, it's like an offbeaten trail, So possibly she 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.919 was just going for a run, didn't take her things. 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:20.560 Yeah, possibly, possibly. 0:18:21.160 --> 0:18:23.959 You know, police end up searching the park, but not 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:28.240 until after nearly a full month after they saw this 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:31.200 search data from her computer. So they searched the park 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:35.560 on July sixteenth, and these are United States Park Police 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:40.840 on horseback. They're joined by Police Academy cadets, and throughout 0:18:40.880 --> 0:18:45.160 their search they end up finding zilch nothing. So months 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:49.720 end up going by. July becomes August, August becomes September, 0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:54.600 and then I think a huge factor in the Chandra 0:18:54.680 --> 0:19:00.800 Leeby case is September eleventh, two thousand and one happened 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:07.280 to the United States, And I think that is exactly when, sadly, 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:13.119 the public's obsession with Shondra Levy went away. The whole 0:19:13.119 --> 0:19:19.560 world was fixated on this horrible, tragic event and Chandra 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:20.800 got lost in the shuffle. 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.359 Yeah, and not just the public, by the way, but 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.639 you know, law enforcement we're now on high alert and 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.520 directing all of their attention to anything that might be considered, 0:19:30.280 --> 0:19:34.040 you know, a terrorist or international threat, right right, And 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:37.280 so it's really not until the following year that there's 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.080 any movement on this case whatsoever. So on May twenty 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:44.040 second of two thousand and two, a man is at 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.600 walking his dog in Rock Creek Park when he noticed 0:19:47.600 --> 0:19:51.280 that his dog is very intensely sniffing this little spot 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.240 on the side of a bluff. So he goes up 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:57.840 to the spot where his dog is scratching and digging, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.520 and he starts rubbing the dirt way and that is 0:20:01.560 --> 0:20:04.560 when he discovers a human skull in the ground. 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:09.760 Yeah, it's well, I can't even imagine what he was thinking. 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:14.200 He ends up calling the police, and investigators quickly found 0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:18.439 other bones in the area, and they also found a 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:25.560 jogging bra, panties, tennis shoes, sweatpants, and a walkman or 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:27.520 a portable radio for those of you who don't know 0:20:27.520 --> 0:20:31.320 what a walkman is, And sadly, dental records end up 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:37.879 confirming that it is indeed Chandra Levy's remains. So, Trevor, 0:20:37.960 --> 0:20:41.920 why did it take this long for them to find Chandra? 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.680 Yeah, I mean that's a big question in this case, 0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:50.159 right Yeah. Yeah, Like supposedly they searched the park pretty well, 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.600 but you know, at the end of the day, they 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.240 found nothing, and it's just kind of a random stranger 0:20:55.320 --> 0:20:59.359 who happens to stumble upon this with his dog. You know, 0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.199 I wonder if they used any canine units and searching 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.520 the park. I mean, clearly a dog would have been 0:21:05.520 --> 0:21:09.199 able to smell even fresher remains a year earlier, but 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:12.240 you know, who knows. So it sounds like they just 0:21:12.320 --> 0:21:14.840 didn't do a very good job of searching, right Like 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:16.560 it was right there in the woods. 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:19.560 It was right there, and you know, I just have 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:24.280 to say, like, to me, it just seems like common sense, 0:21:24.480 --> 0:21:27.800 right because it seems like they're just searching the roads, 0:21:28.480 --> 0:21:32.280 but in fact there are you know, trails where people 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:36.200 are running on these off trails, and why they didn't 0:21:36.920 --> 0:21:40.840 go a little further to these trails just baffles me 0:21:41.320 --> 0:21:42.359 because it was right there. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.080 Yeah. I mean, they'll probably tell you as a resource thing, right, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.520 like they could only dispatch a certain number of men 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.399 for a certain period of time before they had to 0:21:50.400 --> 0:21:52.680 call off their search and move on to something else. Right, 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.280 That's a very common answer you hear from law enforcement, 0:21:56.320 --> 0:21:59.080 and it's an unfortunate reality and why a lot of 0:21:59.119 --> 0:22:02.199 cases don't get solved the way they should. So, you know, 0:22:02.240 --> 0:22:05.480 who knows. But the reality is is that had they 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.400 discovered her sooner, they would have gotten a lot more 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.520 forensic evidence that they could have used when investigating her case. 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:15.120 You know, they might have been able to determine if 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.880 she had been raped, if there was any blood semen, 0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:20.720 you know, anything under her fingernails that they could have 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:23.760 used as DNA evidence. But you know, at the end 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:26.040 of the day, all they really got was a few bones, 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:29.000 some clothing. All of this has been weathered away by 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:32.320 months and months and months of erosion and you know, 0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.000 decay and all these things. Yeah, so they don't really 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.880 have a lot. I guess the only thing we really 0:22:37.920 --> 0:22:40.600 do get is that we now know that Chandra Levy 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:44.119 is in fact dead, and that at least provides a 0:22:44.119 --> 0:22:45.560 little bit of closure for the family. 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:49.440 Yeah, yeah, I mean you do have to feel thankful 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:52.240 for that, at least for her her mother and her 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:54.959 father and her family they can now finally, you know, 0:22:55.040 --> 0:22:56.240 bury their little girl. 0:22:57.400 --> 0:22:57.600 You know. 0:22:57.640 --> 0:23:01.359 But that's not the end of the sty This is 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:04.920 where things get kind of weird for me, you know. 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.600 I mean, it's just a few months later after they 0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:12.520 found Chandra's remains that a five time felon and a 0:23:12.600 --> 0:23:16.159