1 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: Well, hi there, folks, welcome to the program. This, of 2 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: course is Stinchfield, happy to be with you this evening. Look, 3 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 1: I told you there would be more pardons on the way. 4 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: Now. 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Politico is reporting that Joe Biden is seriously considering pardoning 6 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: in a blanket pardon, just like he did for his 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: son Hunter. 8 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: A sweeping list of pardons for people. 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Like Adam Schiff, shifty Shift who's now going to be 10 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: a United States Senator from California, For people like Liz Cheney, 11 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: the deceitful so called Republican from Wyoming who led that 12 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: j Sixter sham of a committee, and all so none 13 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: other than doctor Fauci, the man that ran a scam 14 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: on the entire country, basically setting up President Biden's waltz 15 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: on into the White House with. 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 2: The response to the COVID pandemic. 17 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: So these are people, in my belief, that committed crimes 18 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: against America. And this is different from a president that 19 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: just pardons any old person. This is a president pardoning 20 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: people that I believe will cover up the crimes that 21 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: also Joe Biden committed. This is the reporter for Politico 22 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: who talked about these potential pardons. 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: The White House Council and a handful of senior White 24 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: House aides, including Jeff Zionce, the Chief of Staff, are 25 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: having this debate right now in the West Wing, which is, 26 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: do we leave these folks out in the cold and 27 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: potentially expose them to Cash Patel's FBI and Donald Trump's 28 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 3: White House for any number of charges or some kind 29 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: of you know, the show trial to get a measure 30 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: of revenge and at the very least make them pay 31 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 3: six figures in legal bills to avoid such a case. 32 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 3: Or do we offer preemptively pardons to people there's no 33 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 3: proof they've done anything wrong. 34 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: You see what happened there. 35 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: He said first for a whole slew of crimes, and 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: he caught himself and realized, oh, I can't talk like that, 37 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: And then he went down this road of a show trial. 38 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: There's no show trial. Let's go through it. You have 39 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: concocting evidence, literally, we know the Russian collusion hopes. They 40 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: knew it was fogus, phony and fogus. You've got suppression 41 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: of evidence when you're trying to convict someone, in this case, 42 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: President Trump of an impeachment. And then you've got the 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: classified document leaks though You're just a few of the 44 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: many charges that could be filed. And that's not a 45 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: show trial, that's legit. So again, this is very different 46 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: from any other presidential park because it all gets back 47 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden trying to cover his own but especially 48 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: doctor Fauci. The Democrats were in on this CDC Health 49 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 1: and Human Services scam NIH National Institutes of Health scam 50 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: that they ran on the American people when it came 51 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: to the vaccine and the response to the COVID that 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: basically set in the mail in ballot scheme into motion 53 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that helped President Trump get into office. This is doctor Fauci, 54 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 1: just a little trip down memory lane. 55 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 4: It was easy to criticize, but they're really criticizing science. 56 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: You're really attacking not only doctor Anthony Fauci, you were 57 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 4: attacking science. I'm the bad guy to an entire subset 58 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: of people because I represent something that. 59 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 5: Is uncomfortable for them. 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: It's called the truth. 61 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: No, it's called lies, and you should be held to account. 62 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: My assumption is Joe Biden will end up partnering these 63 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: people along with as I mentioned Hunter, we know has 64 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: gotten parted Joe Biden, his consolieri and his wife and 65 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: then of course there's James, his brother, and Joe will 66 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: most likely pardon himself too. So Adam Schiff, remember, was 67 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: whole part of this Ukraine hoax. And I'll play the 68 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: clip for you of Adam Schiff literally reading a bogus 69 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: transcript of a phone call that President Trump made the 70 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine which never went down like the transcript that he read, 71 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: which then, to. 72 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 2: Me makes this taxpayer fraud. 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: His concoction of evidence means that he scammed the United 74 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: States taxpayers out of who knows how many millions of 75 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: dollars to try to hang President Trump out to dry. 76 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: Here's him reading fake evidence. 77 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 6: We've been very good to your country, very good. No 78 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 6: other country has done as much as we have. But 79 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 6: you know what, I don't see much reciprocity here. I 80 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 6: hear what you want. I have a favor I want 81 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 6: from you, though, and I'm going to say this only 82 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 6: seven times, so you better listen. 83 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 5: Good. 84 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 6: I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent. Understand, 85 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 6: lots of it. 86 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: Fake. He knew it was fake. 87 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: He lies to the American people, and he's running a 88 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: scam for Joe Biden. He was running a scam for 89 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. 90 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: It didn't work. Thankfully, President Trump will be waltzed into office. 91 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: So all of this for the making up evidence, Liz 92 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,840 Speaker 1: Cheney through it, all the pardons. 93 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 2: This is what the end result is. 94 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is covering his tracks, covering the Biden crime 95 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: family tracks, and so in the end, the only way 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: he completely covers himself is if he pardons himself. All right, 97 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: turning now to the other big news, which is the 98 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: assassination attempts on President Trump's life. We had the last 99 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: hearing into the Secret Service failures today and man, did 100 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: the fireworks start to fly. The Secret Service has serious problems. 101 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: I believe top brass inside the Secret Service, like many 102 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: agents he's in the federal government. 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Became too political. 104 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: They became too married to the woke ideology of the 105 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:12,599 Speaker 1: Democrat Party. For example, Ronald Rowe, the acting director, he 106 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: went to a nine to eleven memorial with Joe Biden, 107 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: stood right next to Joe Biden, not as a Secret 108 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: Service agent protecting Joe Biden, but as a dignitary. Now 109 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: many lower level Secret Service agents says this actually put 110 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: not only President Trump in danger, but Joe Biden in danger. 111 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: The chain of command got all messed up. My buddy 112 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: Texas Congressman Pat Fallon wanted to ask him about that, 113 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:39,919 Speaker 1: and then all hell broke loose. 114 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 5: You recognize this photo, yes, sir, I do? 115 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 7: Okay? 116 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 8: Is that the remembrance of September eleventh? 117 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 5: It was? Was it in New York? It was at 118 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 5: ground zero? Okay? 119 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 9: Who's usually at an event like this closest to the 120 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 9: President of the United States? 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 5: Security wise, the. 122 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 8: Sack of the detail, special agent in charge of the detail? 123 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 9: Were you the special agent in charge of the detail 124 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 9: that day? 125 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 8: Actually, let me address this? Could you please staff? 126 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 2: Leave? 127 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 4: No? 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 8: Leave that one up with the circle around me? 129 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 5: Thank you? 130 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 8: So, Actually, Congressman, what you're not seeing is the sack 131 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 8: of the detail off out of the pictures view. And 132 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: that is the day where we remember the more than 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 8: three thousand people that have died on nine to eleven. 134 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,239 Speaker 8: I actually responded to ground zero. I was there going 135 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 8: through the ashes of the World Trade Center. I was 136 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 8: there at Fresh Kills. 137 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you that you were. 138 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 8: To show respect he died. 139 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 10: I don't not know what. 140 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: So Pat Fallon got mad pretty quickly, but he got 141 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: mad for good reason because what that special agent of 142 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: the FBI now acting director was saying was using nine 143 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: to eleven for the exact reasons. He was blaming path 144 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Allen for using it. He used nine to eleven, in 145 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: my opinion, to run cover for himself of playing political 146 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: dignitary trying to secure the job of the office. Now 147 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: guess who else was it ground zero on that faithful day? 148 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 2: Yours? Truly me and I don't use nine to eleven for. 149 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: Any special privileges to protect me from members of Congress. 150 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 1: But that's what I believe this acting director of the 151 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: Secret Service did, and it kept going. Watch you're trying 152 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: to be do not. 153 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 8: Invoke nine to eleven for political purposes? 154 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 11: Not? 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 9: I'm to ask him, and don't worrying me order elective 156 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 9: member of Congress, And I'm asking you a serious question, 157 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 9: and you were. 158 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 8: I am a public servant who has served this nation 159 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 8: and you own time questions on our day, on our country, darkness. 160 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 9: Will come to order, asking you serious questions for the 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 9: American people, And they're very simple, they're not true questions. 162 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Were you the special agent in charge of that? 163 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 5: I wasn't. 164 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: I was there representing United. 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,599 Speaker 8: Mister, not perfect protective the expired Because. 166 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 9: You want to be visible because you aren't listening for. 167 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 8: This for a fond member of this agency. 168 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 9: President Fressman, Vice President of Life, because you. 169 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: Are putting you put those agents out of position. 170 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 10: Mister happened, did sir? 171 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 12: And you were out of las Chairman, mister chairman, mister chairman, Yes, sir, please, 172 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 12: and we are back up order. 173 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 10: Now, we are back in order. 174 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 5: Now, thank you. 175 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: I think this sums up in many respects the problems 176 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: with leadership and government agencies all over the place. They 177 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: have no respect for the fact that those members of 178 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: Congress represent the people. There was no respect given to 179 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: the line of questioning that Pat Fallen was asking him, 180 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: were you there because you're trying to job hunt? And 181 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: is there a potential that you were risking the security 182 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: detail because the chain of command was messed up. He 183 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: asked him, did you have a firearm? Did you have 184 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: your radio? To have all of those things with you? 185 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: These are legitimate questions. Didn't need to get out of 186 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 1: line like that, and I actually blame the acting director 187 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: for taking that out of line. All you needed to 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: do was ask and answer the questions in an easy, 189 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: straightforward manner. Well, joining me now live is retired special 190 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: agent for the Secret Service. 191 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: CJ. Joroffe is with us. CJ. It's great to see 192 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 2: you again. 193 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 5: Good to see you, Grant. How are you today? 194 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 2: I'm good, my friend. 195 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,359 Speaker 1: So I talked to a bunch of your fellow colleagues 196 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: today and many of them shaking their heads at that interaction. 197 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: What was your response as you watched it all go down? 198 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 5: Answer the question is asked? 199 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 13: Bottom line, As a trained polygraphic examiner, when I see 200 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 13: someone not answer the question that was asked, it's normally 201 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 13: the version is trying to cast doubt on the question 202 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 13: itself instead of asking the question. 203 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 5: It wasn't a good look. It wasn't a good look. 204 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: Do you agree with me that the acting director invoking 205 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: nine to eleven was actually to use nine to eleven 206 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: as a wall to stop any further questioning of what 207 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: I think was legitimate questions there. 208 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 5: It was a distraction nine to eleven. 209 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 13: Granted he was there at that location, but the question 210 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 13: was what were you doing there? Then you got the 211 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 13: rest of the story of well, I was there because 212 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 13: and this happened, and I was there a day of 213 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 13: That wasn't a question. 214 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 5: What was your job? 215 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 13: He didn't answer the question, and then we saw the 216 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 13: rest of the fireball that took place right after that. 217 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 5: It wasn't a good look. 218 00:11:59,600 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 2: You know. 219 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: It's interesting because Ronald Rowe, before he became acting director, 220 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 1: I believe he was in charge of the units that 221 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: were supposed to go out and be advanced teams. Now 222 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: it was the advanced teams that appeared really screwed this 223 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 1: thing up. When he had President Trump's first assassination attempt. 224 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 1: It makes no sense to put him as acting director, 225 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: and now he wants the job, says he's going to 226 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: totally reform the agency. To me, it looks like he 227 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: was part of the problem. 228 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 5: I would agree. 229 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 13: The bottom line, the shortcomings that occurred at Butler with 230 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 13: that advanced team. He made sure and detailed it in 231 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 13: his statement to Congress, and then to turn around and say, well, 232 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 13: I'm going to make the change. But if you're a 233 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 13: part of the problem, how can you be a part 234 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 13: of the solution. That's what I'm looking at. 235 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: Let me play a clip from you. This is Congress 236 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:56,400 Speaker 1: from Mark Green. This gets heated as well as they 237 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: try to get to the bottom of where the failures 238 00:12:58,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: were and what do we do to make sure it 239 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: happens again? 240 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 12: Watch this and I'll tell you going to war, I 241 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 12: didn't give it. If I died. What I didn't want 242 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 12: to do was fail. But your guys showed up that 243 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:17,560 Speaker 12: day and didn't give it. There was apathy and complacency, period, 244 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 12: and that's your mission. 245 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:19,679 Speaker 1: Now. 246 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 12: I appreciate all the systems and the technology that everybody 247 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 12: else has asked about. This is a leadership issue. 248 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: What do you make of those comments? Was everybody there apathetic? 249 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: I can't believe that could really be the case, is it? 250 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: CJ. 251 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 13: I can't speak to what happened at Butler. I saw 252 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 13: what happened at Butler, but based on the training of 253 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 13: myself and many of my colleagues, some of the supervisors 254 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 13: that I hold in high esteem, what happened at Butler 255 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 13: shouldn't have happened. We've had that conversation before. Things that 256 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 13: should have been addressed, the crowd that should have been addressed, 257 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 13: the boundaries, the local law enforcement, our counterparts looking back 258 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 13: at having read the documents or some of the surveys 259 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 13: of the documents, people didn't do their job. And when 260 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 13: we don't do our job, Luckily, luckily, by the grace 261 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 13: of God, things didn't work out. Worse than they did. 262 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 13: It's a sad day. It's a sad day, and I'm 263 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 13: hoping and praying as well as some of my fellow 264 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 13: former Secret Service agents that there is change and that's 265 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 13: positive change. 266 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: DJ. 267 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Last question for you, maybe the hardest one of all. 268 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: What do you think needs to happen within the Secret Service? 269 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: Is it easy to resurrect that agency that I had 270 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: always held in the highest esteem. I love what they 271 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: do and I'm so impressed with their ability to put 272 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: their lives on their line for others. 273 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 13: Let's go back to basics. The bottom line, the way 274 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 13: that we've been trained, you practice like you play. It 275 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 13: starts at the top, but it also comes down to 276 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 13: accountability to do the job, to do the job the 277 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 13: right way. We've got a storied history going way way back, 278 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 13: but the bottom line is this is the here and now. 279 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 13: The changes that need to be taking place needs to 280 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 13: take place at the top. And I'm not the only 281 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 13: one that echoes that opinion. 282 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: I say, call in the right hand or bring CJ. 283 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: Jorriff back in. You got a whole bunch of guys 284 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: that might follow you back. She says, no, All right, 285 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: Well you tell her. I'm sorry that CJ. Jorff is 286 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: great seating my friend. Thank you for coming on tonight. 287 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: Appreciate you, Gret Absolutely. 288 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: You too, sir. 289 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: All right, I want to turn to another story that 290 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: has captivated me, captivated many people across the country. This 291 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: is the shooting of the CEO of United Healthcare in 292 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: New York City Wednesday morning, coming out of the Hilton 293 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: Hotel right on Fifth Avenue. He's walking down the street 294 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: and you see the shooter come up behind him shoot him. Now, 295 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: that shooter, if you're looking closely, has a suppressor on 296 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: his firearm. The gun even appears to jam. I'm not 297 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: even sure the shooter's a great shot. I think what 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: I heard before was that he hit hit him in 299 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: the leg, and then goes and finishes the job and 300 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: then moves on across the street. I will say this calm, 301 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: cool and collected. There's a few things that would lead 302 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: me to believe this shooter was probably a pro. But 303 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: there's other things to tell me that maybe he's not. 304 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: Like the way he aimed. But when his gun jammed, 305 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: he didn't freak out about it. He kept moving on 306 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: with his business at hand. It's quite frightening to say 307 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: the least. Investigators have done a great job. In New 308 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: York City, where there are cameras everywhere tracking this man's movement. 309 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: We can say it's a man because of this photo. 310 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Now I believe this is at one of his stops 311 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: before we know we went to a Starbucks. This is 312 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: how calm the guy was. Goes to a Starbucks, gets 313 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: a couple of granola bars in a water before he 314 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: moves on down the line. Now, his mother would recognize 315 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: him in this picture. Most of his friends would too. 316 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: I would assume it's not going to take too long 317 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,360 Speaker 1: before they find this guy. The question is, what's the motive? 318 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: The CEO was under investigation. He sold fifteen million dollars 319 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: worth of stock right before a federal investigation into United 320 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:18,440 Speaker 1: Healthcare was announced. On the casings, the bullet casings Denied, Depose, 321 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: defend was written on those casings. 322 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 2: Is that a diversion to make it seem like something else? 323 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: I want to bring in Now, former FBI agent and whistleblower, 324 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: our buddy, Steve Friend is back. 325 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,879 Speaker 2: Steve, welcome to the program. 326 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 14: Great to be here, Thanks for having me. 327 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: All Right, this is an interesting case, Steve, Say they 328 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: dispatch you what's the first thing you do. What do 329 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: you look at that? How do we get a motive? 330 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: How do we track this guy down? 331 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 14: I think the man hunting aspect too, it's probably going 332 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 14: to be a lot easier than finding out the motive 333 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 14: to find the man at this point. Look, this shooting 334 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 14: happened in one of the most surveiled cities in the 335 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 14: entire world. I mean, outside of like Fort Knox in 336 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,440 Speaker 14: Las Vegas. Every single street, corner, every single business there 337 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 14: has cameras. It shouldn't be too difficult to track that 338 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 14: individual's path all the way through. And as far as 339 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 14: the purchase history, you can look and see if there 340 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 14: was any sorts of transactions that were going on that 341 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 14: would be useful. You could also do things like I've 342 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 14: read that there was a discovery of a fingerprint. Now 343 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 14: the fingerprint might be smudge, but there could be some 344 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 14: DNA transfer. You can look through some DNA databases and 345 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 14: if those aren't available. Now we're seeing increasingly that the 346 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 14: government is acquiring all these ancestry websites and they're going 347 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 14: to be able to find a third cousin or something 348 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 14: to that effect. And then you let the man hunters 349 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 14: do their job. Those are the people that are out 350 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 14: there and use those clues bring him him or her 351 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 14: at this point who knows into custody. And then once 352 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 14: you find that identity out, I think it shouldn't be 353 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,959 Speaker 14: too hard to discover the motive behind it. Those comments 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 14: on the shell casings leamingably that it's probably something connected 355 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 14: to being denied service by this by this insurance company. 356 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: All right, so that's one of the motives that you 357 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 1: would be denied service. And look, everybody hates their insurance company, right, 358 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean never I just had a situation. I went 359 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: to the emergency room that give me a bill for 360 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty dollars. I thought, hey, this is great, 361 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: and then I get a bill of the mail for 362 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: twelve hundred more dollars. I mean, this is the kind 363 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: of healthcare system we live in. So you could certainly 364 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: have a disgruntled customer. Could it be something to do 365 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: with the stock investigation? He was on his way to 366 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: an investor meeting as well, there's an investigation go into 367 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: the stocks there. He testified about a cyber hack back 368 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: in February to Congress as well. Could there be something 369 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: behind that? I mean, all of these things. You probably 370 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: don't rule anything out. 371 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 2: Do you. 372 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 14: No, absolutely not. You have to go in with no 373 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 14: blinders on whatsoever. Your job is to just gather the facts. 374 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 14: As the investigator here, you bring that all in. If 375 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 14: you go in with a preconceived notion, then you're not 376 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 14: going to have the eye to see what else could be. 377 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 14: You're actually trying to prove things that are wrong, right, 378 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 14: and if you were able to disprove that, say this 379 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 14: individual was really fin up about being declined service, if 380 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 14: that's not true, Okay, those are the facts that you 381 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 14: gather and you present them all at this point. Look, 382 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,119 Speaker 14: I'm against the idea that this is a professional, just 383 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 14: because I think that a professional would have a lot 384 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 14: more operational security, would allow themselves to be photographed, wouldn't 385 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 14: actually carry out an attack like this in such a 386 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 14: populated area. It would have been a lot more remote. 387 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 14: And I think that ultimately it's going to come down 388 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 14: to thankfully the New York Police Department to do that 389 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 14: because my ex girlfriend, while they exist on the myth 390 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 14: of competence, they would be hard pressed to actually locate 391 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 14: this individual. They'll take credit though, once the NYPD does 392 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 14: a job. 393 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting I tend to be with you on 394 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: the not a professional, I will say, you remain calm 395 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: when it's gonna appear to have jammed using a suppressor. 396 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 1: Not everybody has one of those. That may actually help 397 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: them track some people down in the end, because those 398 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: things are all now registered. But it was a bad 399 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: shot as well. I believe he hit the guy in 400 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: the leg from that distance. There should be no reason 401 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: for that to happen in the end. Here, how long 402 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: do you think you can you even put an estimate? 403 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: Do they find this guy very quickly? Or is this 404 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: going to drag on. 405 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 14: I'm pretty optimistic that they'll find this individual relatively quickly. 406 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,239 Speaker 14: It's a little different than when you have an Eric 407 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 14: Rudolph who runs into the wilderness of North Carolina, just 408 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 14: because it's so hard to track that area. They're going 409 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 14: to have a lot of technology at their disposal. 410 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Here. 411 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 14: We're a lot more proficient at manhunting now than we 412 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 14: were even a few years ago, So I think that 413 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:33,640 Speaker 14: will ultimately rely a lot on the human intelligence as well. 414 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 14: I mean, it's not going to be too long before 415 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 14: someone recognizes that individual, makes a call, and then once 416 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 14: that happens, it's just will only be a question of 417 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 14: time of locating where this individual likes to live or 418 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 14: hang out or anything of that sort. So I imagine 419 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 14: we'll probably have a resolution to this in the next 420 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 14: few days. 421 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: You know, one angle I would run down here before 422 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: I let you go is I would go to the 423 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: company and I would say, why didn't he have protection? 424 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: This is the CEO of a huge company. Most CEOs 425 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: have some form of protection, especially going to an investor 426 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: meeting in the middle of New York City. Why was 427 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: there no security detail and run down? 428 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: Who was responsible for that? Made lead you someplace? 429 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 14: Perhaps, but you never know. Maybe the security was a 430 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 14: retire from the Secret Service. 431 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 10: So that obviously. 432 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: Steve Friend taking his shots At the end of day, Buddy, 433 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate you as always. 434 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on tonight. 435 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Thanks Gret absolutely, buddy. All right, folks, we are feeling 436 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: pretty good about where our country is headed right now, 437 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: aren't we. But I'm still concerned because it's when we 438 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: let our guard down that bad things happen. 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All right, Coming up next, folks, 447 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,119 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court is weighing in if they should protect 448 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,640 Speaker 1: children from transgender mutilation. 449 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: It seems like an easy decision to me. Maybe not. 450 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk about this next. 451 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:29,919 Speaker 1: Well, folks, welcome back. It is not fun flying, right, folks. 452 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 1: Anyone that goes to the airport, take a flight anywhere 453 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: now knows that you're gonna be plagued with delays. You're 454 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: gonna get hit with fees, whether it's on your bags, 455 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: whether it's on your seats, whatever it's on snacks. It's 456 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: gotten quite out of control. Well, the United States Senate 457 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: held a hearing on this. Did you do the five 458 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: biggest airlines took in three billion dollars worth of seat fees, 459 00:23:55,400 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: Spirit and Frontier actually bonus employees. He send the two 460 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: and twenty six million dollars to act like the Gestapo 461 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: for anybody getting on the plane with a bag. 462 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: Here's the CEO admitting it. 463 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: We recognize this as a hard job, and so therefore 464 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,239 Speaker 1: we incentivize them to do that. 465 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 14: How much it's ten dollars per bag? 466 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 15: Wow? Ten dollars per bag. And I think mister Klein, 467 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 15: you and mister Shorter your your airlines cumulatively have spent 468 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 15: twenty six million dollars paying gate agents between twenty twenty 469 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 15: two and twenty twenty three to catch passengers whose bags 470 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 15: are a little bit too big. Twenty six million dollars. 471 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 15: I mean, if people want to know why it's such 472 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 15: a terrible experience to fly, this is news for them today. 473 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: Let's get done so. 474 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. Ten dollars a bag that explains I mean, 475 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: got your carry on, and guy or girls says, oh no, no, no, 476 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: that's I put it in the put it in the 477 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: measuring box over there. You're not going on the plane 478 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: with that. It's it's the most annoying thing. You just 479 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: paid one thousand dollars for a ticket to get from 480 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: Dallas to California, and they're not letting you carry on 481 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: a bag that's this much over the stuff factor. 482 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 2: They get ten dollars a piece. Go figure. 483 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: I want to turn now to another big hearing, this 484 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 1: one not in the United States Senate, but in the 485 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court over transgender care. 486 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 2: This is about that Tennessee law that. 487 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: Blocks doctors from basically mutilating kids prescribing hormone doctors to 488 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: children with or without parents permission. 489 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: And here's the thing. 490 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm not one to stand in the way of doctor 491 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: patient treatment. 492 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: I'm really not. 493 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: I think that should be between patient and doctor. I'm 494 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: all for even experimenting with drugs. But here's the difference. 495 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: These are children. They don't get a say in the deal. 496 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,120 Speaker 1: And if the parents are being abusive in what they 497 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: are pushing on their children, that's where the government has 498 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: to step in when one party in the deal doesn't 499 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: really get a say or is in apable of making 500 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: a decision. And I believe we look at society as 501 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: kids and they are eighteen and under their kids, they 502 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: don't get a say, So I'm okay with this. Justice 503 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: Alito talked about this that the surgeries seem to be 504 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: a money grab, true. 505 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 16: In every respect, but on page one ninety five for 506 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 16: the CAST report, it says there is no evidence that 507 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,280 Speaker 16: gender affirmative treatments reduce suicide. 508 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 7: What I think that is referring to is there is 509 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 7: no evidence. 510 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 6: In the studies that this. 511 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: Treatment reduces completed suicide. 512 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 17: And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and 513 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 17: admittedly is rare. 514 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: Well, folks, I want to bring in someone who is 515 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: very seasoned to weigh in on all of this. She 516 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: spoke outside the Supreme Court yesterday as a detransitioner and 517 00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: Independent Women's Forum Ambassador. Moseley is with US Priscia. It 518 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,600 Speaker 1: is great to have you on the program. 519 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 7: Hi, thank you for having me. 520 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: All right, Pire, So. 521 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: Your story is important because you transition to a man, 522 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: realized it was a mistake, and then detransitioned. Please tell 523 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: me what that experience was like. 524 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 17: Well, actually, I didn't transition into a man at all. 525 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 7: That's what my doctors told me was going to happen. 526 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 17: And that's what is the purpose of all of the 527 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 17: euphemisms and all of that gender affirming hair and top surgery. 528 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 17: They're all lies to promote this scam, this fraud. But 529 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 17: humans can't change sex. It's impossible. What happened was I 530 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 17: was a girl who was experiencing distress related to puberty 531 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 17: and related to trauma, and instead of treating me for 532 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 17: that distress, my doctors told me that making my body 533 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 17: look like a boy's body would take all the distress away. 534 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 7: And it didn't. I didn't become a man or a boy. 535 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 7: I became a girl. 536 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 17: Who took unnecessary wrong sex hormones and how to bilateral 537 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 17: double misseectomy on my healthy breasts just because I was sad. 538 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: For sure? How old were you when you went through this? 539 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 17: The medicalization with hormones started at sixteen, and I had 540 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 17: just turned eighteen when I had my double misseectomy. 541 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: All right, So this is a tough question because this 542 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: gets to the heart of the Tennessee law. This is 543 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: about parents wanting control over their kids. The parents in 544 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee says, if we want to do this for our children, 545 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: we know better. You had parents involved. Where were they 546 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: on all of this? Were you driving the train on this? 547 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,760 Speaker 1: Were they driving the train? Were the doctors driving the train? 548 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 2: How did it go down? 549 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 7: It was the doctors driving the train. 550 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 17: My parents never thought that I was a boy or 551 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 17: I was in the wrong body, but they did know 552 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 17: that they had a child who was suicidal and not 553 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 17: doing well, and when I went to my doctors and 554 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 17: said that I felt like a boy, they repainted all 555 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 17: of my symptoms as gender dysphoria and said, and they 556 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 17: were adamant about the fact that making myself look like 557 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 17: a boy would take it all away. And my parents 558 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 17: were blackmailed into consenting. There are really two different types 559 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 17: of parents in this. There are parents that blackmailed their 560 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 17: children and their parents that are blackmailed by the doctors. 561 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 17: Not all of the parents are innocent in this, but 562 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 17: some of them are victims of the doctors too. 563 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Look, I'm a dad, I got a fifteen year old boy. 564 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: If a doctor's telling you your kid's going to commit 565 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 1: suicide whether unless you do this to them, what a 566 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: flux that would throw any parent into. Which is why 567 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: in some respects I like the Tennessee law because every 568 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: piece of evidence I've seen seeing these these surgeries don't work, 569 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: and they don't save lives, and they only cause problems. 570 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 2: Would you agree with that? 571 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 17: I completely agree. There's no evidence that it reduces suicide. 572 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 17: We heard reported yesterday even by proponents for gender affirming care, 573 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 17: which is really sex destroying harm. Parents don't have any 574 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 17: right to take away the health of their children. Doctors 575 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 17: don't have the right to trick parents into consenting to 576 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 17: their children being experimented on. 577 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 7: It doesn't help anyone. It just takes away your health. 578 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 2: For sure. 579 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 1: If the Tennessee law was in place in your state 580 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: where you went through this at the time, would that 581 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: have saved you great physical pain, heartache, headache, and the 582 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: rest of it. 583 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 17: Yes, I was a minor when I started my medicalization 584 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 17: and I wasn't well, I wasn't stable, and I couldn't 585 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 17: I wasn't that capacity to consent. And even though I 586 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 17: had turned eighteen when I had my surgery, it was 587 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 17: being roomed as a child that made me a vulnerable 588 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 17: and confused adult. And if that hadn't been allowed to happen, 589 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 17: if my doctors had maybe been afraid of accountability that 590 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 17: came with tricking me or scamming patients, maybe it wouldn't 591 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 17: have happened at all, and there would be a lot 592 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 17: more normalcy and peace in my life. 593 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: I have heard that the d transition is often worse 594 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: and more painful than the transition itself. 595 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 7: That's true. 596 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 17: Not only is it more difficult, but we're all doing 597 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 17: it without doctors. There are no ICD codes for D transition, 598 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 17: so that means there's also not any way to track 599 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 17: how many people have de transitioned. But there's no way 600 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 17: for us to build for our medical care. In some states, 601 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 17: including my state Michigan, there are laws restricting even giving 602 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 17: care to D transitioners because they count under the conversion 603 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 17: therapy laws. So we have been completely abandoned by not 604 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 17: only the trans community but our own doctors and are 605 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 17: facing complications and trying to fix them completely on our own. 606 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you, I believe, and I know it 607 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: sounds corny that things happen for a reason, but Prisha, 608 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 1: maybe you went through some of this so you can 609 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: help others down down the road. In the end, I 610 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: think your voice is phenomenal when it comes to something 611 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 1: like this and very very powerful, and more people need 612 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: to hear it and anything we can do to help 613 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: you and get the message out you just let us know. 614 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 7: Thank you. I'm so grateful that you're listening. Thank you. 615 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 7: I hope other people listen. I don't want anyone else 616 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 7: to go in blind. 617 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely, and it's a great point. We appreciate you, 618 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: Prishia Mosley, Thank you for coming on today, and you 619 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: know it's amazing. You know, I'm a talk show host. 620 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: You know what my firm belief is, the best talk 621 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: show hosts are the ones that listen. There's not a 622 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 1: lot of us out there. A lot of us like 623 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: to yap, and believe me, I get a yap. 624 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: With the best of them. 625 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: But listening often gets you a lot further in life too, 626 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: not just on TV shows, but in life. 627 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: All right, folks. 628 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: With Donald Trump heading back to the White House, Conservatives 629 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: are back in the driver's seat. 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Okay, and 646 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: many are saying this is part of the Trump effect. 647 00:33:50,000 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: It is. We'll talk about it next. Welcome back everyone. 648 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: How about this? Bitcoin is on the move yesterday, pushing 649 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 1: up over one hundred thousand dollars per coin. 650 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 2: This has been making the stock market. 651 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: I believe this is all part of President Trump's resurging 652 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 1: back onto the scene, going to be going into the 653 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: White House on January twentieth. I think that there is 654 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: certainty back in the market. I think there is optimism 655 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: back in not just the stock market, but also the 656 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency market, as President Trump is now widely known as 657 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: the cryptocurrency president. So bitcoin going up? Is it at 658 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,839 Speaker 1: the top? I don't think so. You know, I look 659 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: at bitcoin. It's called cryptocurrency, but I don't really look 660 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 1: at it as currency. I look at it as a commodity. 661 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: I can buy pork bellies and invest in it. I 662 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: can't really trade it. There's some time you can trade 663 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: your bitcoin advis it, but it's very, very difficult to 664 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 1: be honest with you, an old guy like me has 665 00:34:58,719 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: a hard time doing it. 666 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 2: But I look at it as a commodity. 667 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: I look at it as a part of my investment 668 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: portfolio that will operate and maybe be even somewhat of 669 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: a safe haven from the dollar, and I want to 670 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: collect it as. 671 00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 2: Much as I can. 672 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: Well, joining me now to talk about the bitcoin craze, 673 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: where it's headed, what this means, what's responsible for it 674 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: is the chief operating officer of the company called NFN 675 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 1: eight Group. They mine bitcoin at an institutional level and 676 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: for full transparency here, I am an investor with n 677 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: f N eight Group, and it has been fabulous. I 678 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with the wild swings. I literally 679 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: just deal mine with the bitcoin and sell it up. 680 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 1: That's a whole nother story. But I want to bring 681 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 1: in Corey Rodriguez because I have great respect for him 682 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 1: and his knowledge of all of this. 683 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 2: Corey, welcome to the program. 684 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 11: Thank you for having me. And I'm going to make 685 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 11: a correction. It did hit one hundred and four thousand 686 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 11: last night. 687 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: All right, so it's back down about ninety seven thousand. Now, 688 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: why do you think the surge. 689 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 10: President Trump? 690 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 5: Right? 691 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 11: I mean he's the first president that has made a 692 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 11: purchase on bitcoin. He's the first president who's endorsing bigcoin. 693 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 11: He is the first president that wants to bring more 694 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 11: bigcoin into the marketplace. And you know, thanks to him 695 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 11: and with the new regulations he's going to be putting up. 696 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 11: We're very excited as institutional minors. 697 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: Let me play a clip from you. This is the 698 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: FED Chairman, Jerome Powell. We now have the FED chair 699 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: talking about bitcoin. And I know that in the United 700 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: States government many respects wants its own digital currency, which 701 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: I think is very, very dangerous. They want to track 702 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: everything you do. Can't do that with bitcoin. Let me 703 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: play this clip. 704 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 2: From Jerome Powell. 705 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 18: People use bitcoin as a speculative asset, right, It's like gold. 706 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 18: It's just like gold, only it's virtual. 707 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 5: It's digital. 708 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 18: People are not using it as a form of payment 709 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 18: or as a store of value. It's highly volatile, it's 710 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 18: it's it's not a competitor for the dollar. It's really 711 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 18: a competitor for gold, you know. It's that's really how I. 712 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: Think of it. 713 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: I see you shaking your head. Corey rudrig Is with 714 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: n FN eight group. 715 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 11: Why well, listen, We're now starting to see bitcoin adopted 716 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 11: in the marketplace, the transactions that are going on with 717 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 11: bigcoin from institutional I mean, look at the look at 718 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 11: all the institutions, financial institutions like black Rock, Fidelity, Marathon Riots, 719 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 11: They have spent hundreds of millions of dollars adapting to 720 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 11: bigcoin and mining bigcoin on a daily basis. 721 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 10: I think Howell is a little bit outdated. 722 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 11: He put out an article the other day, like you said, 723 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,839 Speaker 11: it's it's it's like gold but even better. So where 724 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 11: you're going to now start seeing coin being widely used 725 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 11: in the retail marketplace and more on the institutional side 726 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:06,560 Speaker 11: as well. 727 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely, all right, so this gets involved in your business. 728 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: You mind the bitcoin at an institutional level. You seem 729 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: to me when I talk to you, you're not playing 730 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: the wild swings of bitcoins, the ups and downs, the 731 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: buying and selling. You're mining and pushing it out. Is 732 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 1: that your industry? 733 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 11: Yeah, So, as institutional miners, we're able to mine bitcoin 734 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 11: way way way below spot price, and they're able to 735 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 11: liquidate the big cooin on the open market for full 736 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 11: market trade value. 737 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,720 Speaker 10: And that's the benefit of being an institutional miner. 738 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 11: Again, we mind way below the spot price, and we 739 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 11: cash out in US dollars every twenty four to seventy 740 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 11: two hours. 741 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: All right, So that's where the investment came in. And 742 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: again full transparency. I've invested with you guys this and 743 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 1: it's working absolutely great. But here's my other question, what 744 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,359 Speaker 1: happened with bitcoin? It seems like there has been all 745 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: of these other ancillary parts of the industry where people 746 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,960 Speaker 1: are making money growing. This is only going to get bigger. 747 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: I don't think one hundred thousand is the top, do you. 748 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 11: I'm you know, no one has a crystal ball here. 749 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 11: But I truly believe once President Trump takes office, you're 750 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 11: going to really see the big swing in bitcoin. You know, 751 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 11: a lot of industry people like myself, we believe that 752 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 11: bitcoin will be a two hundred thousand by the end 753 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 11: of twenty twenty five. And as President Trump endorses and 754 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 11: talks about it. And by the way, President Trump just 755 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 11: hired a new SEC I forgot his name, pardon me, 756 00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 11: he was just he's now coming into office in January 757 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 11: who's a big, a big advocate of bitcoin, knows all 758 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 11: about cryptocurrency. And again you're going to see the prompt administration. 759 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 11: We believe promoting bigcoin UH to its fullest. And you 760 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 11: know he's looking now also to cash in half the 761 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,799 Speaker 11: gold reserves into bitcoin. 762 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing to watch. And they call 763 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,879 Speaker 1: him the crypto President for a reason. By the way, 764 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to gold, I would love for them 765 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: to audit Fort Knox. I'm not sure how much America 766 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: really has in gold. Nobody really has said, so, I 767 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: would love for that to be audited. 768 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 19: Uh. 769 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: The COO of n f N eight group, Corey Rodriguez, 770 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: my friend, thank you for coming on tonight. 771 00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 10: Hey, thank you for having me pleasure. Thank you so much. 772 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: Have a nice evening by pleasure as well. 773 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: N f N eight dot com is his website. Check 774 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: him out, all right, folks, Elon and Vivek are in 775 00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: Washington to discuss the Department of Government Efficiency DOGE. 776 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 2: As it's called. 777 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 1: Could this new DOGE department mean anything for taxes and 778 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: the irs? Could be good for all of you out there. 779 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,920 Speaker 2: I got some ideas next. 780 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,359 Speaker 20: Efficiency. It's a new thing, and this is a new 781 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 20: day in Washington and a new day in America. We 782 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 20: have long lamented the size and scope of the government 783 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 20: that it has grown too large, and let me be 784 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,480 Speaker 20: frank about this government is too big. It does too 785 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 20: many things, and it does almost nothing well. And the 786 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 20: taxpayers deserve better. They deserve a more responsive government, a 787 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 20: more efficient government, one that is leaner and more focused 788 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 20: on its primary objectives. 789 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 2: My belief is the Eternal Revenuls Service. 790 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: The IRS is rushing right now to hire all those 791 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: seven thousand IRS agents before President Trump gets into office 792 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: and says we're putting the kabash on that. Either way, 793 00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: I know they're sending out letters like you wouldn't believe. 794 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: I've even gotten one of them on with me now 795 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: from Tax Network USA. Is Cameron Kinsey. Welcome to the program. 796 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 19: Thank you so much, Grant. 797 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: It's good to see you. So these letters continue. I 798 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: told you I don't know, well, I can't remember I 799 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,799 Speaker 1: told you before. But I got one which was the 800 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:16,200 Speaker 1: wildest thing. They said I owed interest on my employee 801 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: retention tax credit that. 802 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,360 Speaker 2: They gave me. 803 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: I repaid my payroll taxes and a year later they 804 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: send me a note that said I owned interest on 805 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,040 Speaker 1: the money that I saved from getting an employee retention 806 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: tax credit. And do you know, Cameron, I don't want 807 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: to mess with the IRS. So I wrote the check. 808 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: But it's a shame they're highway robbers like that. It 809 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,920 Speaker 1: makes no sense. 810 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 19: Oh, it's absolutely disgusting what they're doing. And under the 811 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 19: Biden Harris administration, we saw the eighty billion funding boost 812 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 19: to the IRS. The IRS nearly doubled in size, targeting 813 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 19: small businesses, middle income families with these increased audits. And 814 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,040 Speaker 19: during the Trump administration, when I served under President Trump 815 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,399 Speaker 19: in twenty twenty, we worked to reduce the IRS's reach 816 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 19: simplify the tax code just to ease the burden on taxpayers. 817 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 19: So I completely understand. At tax Network USA, we uphold 818 00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 19: that same commitment. We fight for your financial freedom. We 819 00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 19: have expert tax guidance and personalized support. But it is 820 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,760 Speaker 19: very disheartening to see what they're doing to everyday Americans. 821 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: All right, so here's the thing. Look, I'm on TV. 822 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: I've run multimillion dollar businesses. Not to brag, but I'm 823 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: just trying to tell you I know pretty much what 824 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm doing around around business, and the IRS tells me 825 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: I owe this money, and I had paid back a 826 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719 Speaker 1: big check because I knew I should go back and 827 00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: refile the taxes and pay them some more money they 828 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: send me this. If I don't know this, how is 829 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: the everyday person going to know it? How is the 830 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440 Speaker 1: mom and pop running a convenience store on the corner 831 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 1: someplace supposed to know it? 832 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 2: How would they even know where to go? 833 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,799 Speaker 1: And they probably don't have the bank account to just 834 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 1: stroke a check and get them to go away like 835 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: I did. 836 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 19: Oh, you're exactly right, Grant. And that's why it's so 837 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 19: important to use a professional tax service like tax Network USA, 838 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 19: because the IRS enforces a convoluted tax code that often 839 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,359 Speaker 19: leaves hard working Americans vulnerable to mistakes and penalties, and 840 00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 19: with its expanded resources under the Biden Harris administration more 841 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 19: aggressive than ever before, they've been targeting everyday taxpayers. And 842 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 19: I'll mention this again. Under the Trump administration, we focused 843 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 19: on protecting middle income families, reducing the IRS enforcement in 844 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,000 Speaker 19: their brackets, and promoting fairness. So at tax Network USA, 845 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 19: we are here to ensure that you keep every single 846 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,880 Speaker 19: dollar that you've earned, safeguarding your financial future, giving you 847 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 19: peace of mind in this process. You definitely don't want 848 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,720 Speaker 19: to go into it alone. 849 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: The great thing about you, guys, or you have a 850 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: relationship with these agents that you're talking to on the 851 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,400 Speaker 1: fallowy special numbers. It's not like us where we're calling 852 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 1: on a whole for fifty two hours. 853 00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 19: Correct, yes, and facing you're exactly right, facing the irs 854 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,759 Speaker 19: alone as a gamble. It's with their expanded reach in 855 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 19: this administration. So yes, we have tax relief professionals that 856 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 19: understand the intricacies of the tax code and can achieve 857 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 19: far better results than going into it alone. And you're right, 858 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,879 Speaker 19: you be stuck on hold. We do all the work 859 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,960 Speaker 19: for you. You have highly skilled advocates on your side 860 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 19: with us at Tax Network USA, just fighting to protect 861 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 19: your financial well being. 862 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: Well, we're so grateful for your support of this program 863 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: and helping out so many of Stinchfield's Army members as 864 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: well as Real America's voice viewers, and we appreciate you 865 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:37,440 Speaker 1: coming on tonight. 866 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 2: Let me tell folks where they can find you. 867 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 19: Absolutely. You can just go to TANUSA dot com. You 868 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 19: can fill out a quick form, or you can call 869 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 19: us at one eight hundred nine zero five eight zero 870 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 19: zero zero. 871 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 2: Awesome. Thank you so much, Cameron. We'll see you soon. 872 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: Thanks, all right. So the trans lunatics have stepped up 873 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: their protests and are now protesting in the ladies room 874 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: at the us as Capital. 875 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,400 Speaker 2: That's right, the ladies room will show you that next. 876 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: All right, folks, So we know Nancy Mace the congressroom 877 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: from South Carolina wants to keep men out of women's 878 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 1: bathrooms inside the United States Capitol. So what happens men 879 00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:27,320 Speaker 1: pretending to be women? Head I'm into the women's bathrooms, 880 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: I guess in the United States Capitol. This is where 881 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:40,280 Speaker 1: they wage their protest rolling. Please there it is. 882 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 2: Now. 883 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 1: It's some protests, and I'm sure it'll go completely viral 884 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,640 Speaker 1: on TikTok or whatever they're trying to do. But imagine 885 00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: if you're a woman in the United States Capital, a 886 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 1: real woman in there trying to use the restroom, and 887 00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 1: now you've got a whole slow of men in there 888 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 1: with you. It's pretending to be women. Either way, the 889 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: whole thing's ridiculous, folks. It's a mental illness. And if 890 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: they want to act like that, fine, but don't bring 891 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 1: it on the rest of us. Look, you can dress 892 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,799 Speaker 1: up as whatever you want. I really don't care. Just 893 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,799 Speaker 1: don't attack my children. Don't attack the children, and keep 894 00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: it out of my face, and don't try to change 895 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: my mind about things. 896 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: It really is that simple, but not that that's the 897 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: complete opposite. 898 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: Of what I'm asking for. Anyway, that's gonna do it 899 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: for us, folks. It is so great to have you 900 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: along with me tonight. Don't forget to check out my website, 901 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: Grant Stinchfield dot com. That's Grant stinchfield dot com. You 902 00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,919 Speaker 1: can sign up for the email list there. Check out 903 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,680 Speaker 1: the podcast as well, Stinchfield's Army Roles. 904 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,000 Speaker 2: Thanks to all of you, We'll see you tomorrow.