1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: Now from our nation's capital. This is Bloomberg's sound on 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: how many more innocent American lives must be taken before 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: we say enough enough? What the presidents really trying to 4 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: do is create momentum. Now we know he is getting 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: very much involved. Seems more like political theater. Bloomberg Sound 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: on Politics, Policy and Perspective from DC's top name. Snaith 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: Wilson has responsibitive prevent this war from escapator is in 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: our vital national interest to ensure peaceful and stable Europe 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: and make clear that Mike does not make rush Bloomberg 10 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. President Biden 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: again urges Congress to act on guns. Welcome to the 12 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics. A day after the rare evening 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 1: address from the White House, we'll talk about the President's 14 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: ideas and those from the other side of the aisle 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: in a special conversation ahead with Frank DeAngelis, the former 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: principle of column find High School now with the groups 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Safe and Sound Schools. The war in Ukraine reaches its 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: one hundred day and the US reopens its embassy with 19 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: a new ambassador installed and Kiev. We'll talk about that 20 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: with former Ambassador to Poland Daniel Freed, and analysis from 21 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: our signature panel Bloomberg Politics contributors Jeanie Schanzano and Rick 22 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: Davis with us. It's not often we get an evening 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 1: address from the President of the United States, but that 24 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: was the venue for Joe Biden's latest attempt to get 25 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: gun legislation moving in Congress. Here he is, we need 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: to ban assault weapons and high capacity magazines. And if 27 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: we can't ban assault weapons, and we should raise the 28 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: age to purchase them from eighteen to twenty one. We're 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: joined not by a lawmaker to talk about the president's speech, 30 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: but a former school principal. Frank DeAngelis was principal at 31 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: Columbine High School for almost twenty years, including yesterday the 32 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: shootings happened now with the groups Safe and Sound Schools, Frank, 33 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: welcome to Bloomberg. Well, thank you for having me. How 34 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: the President do last night? Is he hitting the right 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: notes for you these past days? Well, we need to 36 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: make changes, and you know, I think back to where 37 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: we were, um right after Park when we were having 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: these discussions, and we're right back, you know, and the 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: kids were back then, sane enough to enough. You adults 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: have let us down, and unfortunately, I hope I've seen 41 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: this happen time and time again after these school students 42 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: occur and everybody is passionate and it kind of goes away, 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: and I just hope it continue. This what is happening now, 44 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: we need to come together and say it's about our 45 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: kids and what can we do. There have been five presidents, 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: as I'm sure you know, during and since Columbine, all 47 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: of whom Democrats and Republicans spoke to the nation about 48 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 1: addressing the issue of gun violence following a terrible event, 49 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: like like you're describing what what could make this time different? Well, 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: hopefully both sides will come together and at least have 51 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: the discussions. And that's what worries me. You know, I 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: grew up during the sixties and you know, its right 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: towards in Vietnam War and our country was divided. But 54 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: nothing in my recollection is like it is right now, 55 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: and people are disagreeing, take time to listen to each other. 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: So hopefully both sides of the aisle can get together 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: and come up with the solution, because our kids are 58 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: paying for it, you know, and some of the things 59 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: that we addressed. I think in addition to gun control 60 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: and things of that nature, that's one piece. And then 61 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: we also have to make sure that we're providing support 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: and help for our kids in these schools. Um I 63 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 1: want to get specific with you because we're actually hearing 64 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: about policy proposals now and and with your experience, I 65 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: want to know what your thoughts are on some of them. 66 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: It does seem like a lot of the ideas being 67 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: considered would not have prevented some were any of these 68 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: recent shootings that have started the conversation or restarted this conversation. 69 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: So starting with what seems to be the most realistic 70 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: right now, based on the talks that are happening in 71 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: the Senate, would be a red flag law, we understand, 72 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: or a bill to I guess the bare minimum would 73 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: be a bill to incentivize states to pass their own 74 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: red flags. And I know a lot of them have already. 75 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Would that make a difference. Well, in Colorado we have 76 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: the law red state, you know, red flag law. And 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: I guess the question, and I'm not avoiding it, you know, 78 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: I think everybody's looking. I think it's a combination of 79 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: all these things that I just I guess where I 80 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: struggle is with an eighteen year old being able to 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: walk in and buy a you know, an automatic and 82 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: their weapon and that type of thing. But I think 83 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: you have to look at the states. Is it as 84 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: it worked in Colorado? And I think it has school 85 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: safety protocols. Another part of this possibly including adding we're 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: hearing adding armed guards and also having only a single 87 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 1: door of entry. That's one thing I wanted to ask 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: you about. You know more about school facility these than 89 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: most people, having spent over a quarter century working in them. 90 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: Is it smart to have a single door? It is. 91 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: But one of the issues that we confronted is we 92 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: had two entrances in uh for the students, you know, 93 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: one down towards where they parked, another one where parents 94 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: would let their kids off, and we did. We had 95 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: school resource officers who own a strong component of you know, 96 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: having school resource officers police officers in the building not 97 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: is referred to as cops, with people there to support 98 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 1: our kids. But one of the issues I think where 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: you've got to really look at things is a Columbine 100 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,840 Speaker 1: we probably in addition to having those two main entrances, 101 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: we also had twenty five doors in a large high 102 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: school such as Columbine. And so it's important that if 103 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: you do have those doors that I constantly tucked our 104 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: staff members and students about keeping those doors shut things 105 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: of that nature. You know, to check if from and 106 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: did go out the door, unless if you do have 107 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: someone uh, you have alarms on every door. But if 108 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 1: you do have alarms and a kid goes out, and 109 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: then that becomes disruptive. But I think you know, single 110 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,279 Speaker 1: entrances are important. But unfortunately what happens is if these 111 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: kids building, someone's gonna open a door for him. I'll 112 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: give you a prime example. I was at a school 113 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: within the past couple of weeks here in Colorado, and 114 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm walking, boy, I'm gonna go 115 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: to the main entrance. Some kid comes, Hey, you want 116 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: to come in this door, and it says on there 117 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: do not let anyone in that you know. And I 118 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: have a discussion saying, you know, I used to be 119 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: a principle you want to make sure you just don't 120 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: let anyone in here. And so I think in addition 121 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: to having cameras, in addition to having you know, some 122 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: of these other things that they're looking for, you also 123 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: need to train your students and your staff on some 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: of these daily things that are You're not going to 125 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 1: cost anything. It's just the general premise of hardening schools 126 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: is something that you support. Well, I am. But with 127 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: that being said, and I'll share something that affected me 128 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: directly at the Columbine, I think parents were concerned is 129 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: the school safe, as I'm sure many people now in 130 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: your Balti texts are wondering schools are safe, and we were. 131 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: I told our parents that we were probably the safest 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: school in the world. We had people at every door, 133 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: we had armed guards, we had security cameras in And 134 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: it was about two weeks, three weeks into school year. 135 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: Kids came to me and they said, Mr. De we 136 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: know you care about us, we know you love us, 137 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: we know you want to keep us safe, but you're 138 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: making us more anxious by all of this stuff that's 139 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: in this building right now. It doesn't feel like a school. 140 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: So when I do have these conversations with school, you 141 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: want to make them safe, but you also want to 142 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: make sure that you're not creating an atmosphere of anxiety. 143 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: I think that's that fine line that we have to find. 144 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: That's a tough balance to find I'm sure I want 145 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: to ask you about what's also in the House right now. 146 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: It is a very different set of proposals. Uh. We 147 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: saw the Judiciary Committee yesterday move this package. Uh include 148 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: a number of different ideas from banning some semi automatic rifles, 149 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: banning some high capacity magazines. Congressman ken Buck, the Republican 150 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: from your state in Colorado, testified before that committee about 151 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: sort of a gun culture, uh in Colorado. And and 152 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,119 Speaker 1: I guess what a false effort this would be? Listened 153 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: to what he said in rural Colorado in a R 154 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: fifteen is a gun of choice for killing raccoons before 155 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: they get to our chickens. Uh. It is a gun 156 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: of choice for killing a fox. It is a It 157 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: is a gun that you control predators on your ranch, 158 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: on your farm, on your property. Uh. The idea that 159 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: that somehow we're going to deny access too. I think 160 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: there are twenty million A R fifteens and circulation in 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: this country. Um. It makes absolutely no sense if there 162 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: are that many of these guns around. Is it possible 163 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: to to put the toothpaste back in the tube? Is 164 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: this a waste of time to try to prohibit some 165 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: semi automatic rifles. Well, I think you gotta look at it. 166 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: How are they purchasing? And I guess the question if 167 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: I if I, you know, and I know the sender 168 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: or I know the representative, But the question I would 169 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 1: have is there other ways to control these animals that 170 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: you don't need an a R fifteen things of that nature, 171 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, And one of the things does seem like 172 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: pretty heavy firepower for a raccoon or whatever. Isn't that 173 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: that's kind of overdoing it? Yes, and that I would agree, 174 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I know a lot of times, Uh, 175 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: the argument will be, well, we need an a R 176 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: fifteen or automatic weapon or a hundred round magazine for 177 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: self defense. Well, I think there's other ways that you 178 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,439 Speaker 1: can protect yourself with self defense than you know, these 179 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: automatic weapons. So, you know, I do struggle with that comment. Frank, 180 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: I'm hitting you with all this policy stuff as I 181 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: sit here in Washington. Uh, you have pulled us back 182 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: to the human side of this a couple of times. Well, 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: this is being debated right now. It's very difficult to 184 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: tell if anything is going to come from it, and 185 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: people skepticism, uh, you know, is is warranted. It seems 186 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: to me after after so many turns. What's your message 187 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,839 Speaker 1: to fellow educators, people who are actually in the middle 188 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: of this right now in rooms with children who are 189 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: in many cases, uh, concerned about their own safety. Well, 190 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: I think one of the things, uh, that I share 191 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: is we do continue to hear about these events that happened, 192 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: just like Ryan Elementary in other places Oxford this past year. 193 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: But what we do not hear about, what is not 194 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: publicized in the media, is how many have been stopped 195 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,439 Speaker 1: by things we have in place now that we didn't 196 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: have in place at Columbine with the police response. Now 197 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: it would secure the perimeter, wait for SWAT to arrive. Well, 198 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: now hopefully single officers are going into the buildings. We 199 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: have a threat assessment programs we did not have in 200 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: place prior to column. We have. You know, unfortunately after 201 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: Sandy Hook, you know, one of the lessons with lock 202 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: all doors, what they didn't anticipate with a gunman to 203 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: shoot through glass. Well, now many of our schools are 204 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: equipped with bulletproof for shield glass that it's going to 205 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: be more difficult for the bullet to penetrate. So I 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: think there have been many things in place that are 207 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: saving wise, But Unfortunately it's one more life loss is 208 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: one too many, and we do need to come together. 209 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: And if I could talk to the legislators is let's 210 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: put aside Republican Democrats. They're all of our kids, and 211 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: what are we going to do to keep them safe? Boy, Frank, 212 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 1: I never thought we would end this conversation on a 213 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: high note, but I appreciate that to think that we 214 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: are safer now than we were in a place to 215 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: begin in. Frank de Angelis, I thank you for being 216 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: with us sharing your thoughts today on Bloomberg. Thank you 217 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: have a good weekend. This is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg 218 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: so On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Well, I 219 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: guess I'll never know if you actually need in a 220 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:04,680 Speaker 1: R fifteen to keep the squirrels away, like Congressman Buck said, 221 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: but it's unlikely an assault weapons ban of any sort 222 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: will be passing the Senate anytime soon. It's just the 223 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 1: reality of the votes. Right now. Let's assemble the panel 224 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: on a Friday, and here from Rick and Genie. Bloomberg 225 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: Politics contributors Jeanie Schanzano and Rick Davis are with us 226 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 1: for the hour. Rick, I was struck by an important 227 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: story from Bloomberg Business Week, n r A lobbying curbs 228 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: research that can prevent violent deaths. Madison Muller did a 229 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: great job reporting the story, suggesting that this has been 230 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: decades in the making, going back to a study supported 231 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: by a grant from the c d C that was 232 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: called gun ownership as a risk factor for homicide in 233 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: the home, and the whole idea here is actually treating 234 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: gun violence like a public health problem, as it's one 235 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: of the leading killers, as the President said last night 236 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: of kids. Uh. Madison writes the study did not sit 237 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: well with the n r A, which introduced a now 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: thirty year long campaign against the agency. Would we be 239 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: in a different place right now, maybe having a different 240 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: conversation with more creative solutions if that did not happen. Sure. 241 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: I think that the fact that we're not looking inside 242 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: the home as a way to prevent violence is a 243 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: big mistake. We've talked about it on the show before. 244 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, one of the things that that 245 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: the n r A used to make a regular thing 246 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: of is talking about securing your weapons at home, getting safe. Uh. 247 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: There was a whole movement in the nine eighties and 248 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: nineties around gunlocks to try and improve safety. Doesn't it 249 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: mentioned safe stories last night? Is that exact could come 250 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: out of the Senate? Absolutely? Um, you know, there's a 251 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 1: lot of the Senators who are opening on this right 252 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: now and trying to figure out what to do. Remember 253 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: the n r A at a time when it was 254 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: all about gun safety, you know, it was never a 255 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: lobbying organization. In the first thirty years of its existence. 256 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: It was about training and making sure that people took 257 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: care of their weapons, knew how to operate them, you know, 258 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 1: and understood about safety, and that was really the the 259 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: number one thing. Then they migrated into this lobbying organization 260 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: much like the tobacco companies did to protect the franchise 261 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: and all these rules, things like opposing the c DC 262 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: bill or getting UH and the President brought this up 263 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: the other night, getting um immunity for gun manufacturers. All 264 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden that became the function of the NRA. 265 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: So uh, It's it's been a long time in coming, 266 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: but I think revisiting these issues is probably what's happening 267 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: right now in the House and the Senate. The President 268 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: reached for a statistic last night that helped to generate 269 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: this story from Bloomberg business Week. Listen. According to new 270 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: data just released by the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, 271 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: guards are the number one killer of children in the 272 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: United States America, the number one killer more than car actions, 273 00:14:56,240 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: more than cancer, more than drug overdoses. Yet, as Madison writes, 274 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: public health funding to prevent child gun deaths as miniscule 275 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: compared with other, far less lethal threats to children. Genie, 276 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: look at this. Leukemia, for example, the most common form 277 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: of childhood cancer, causes fewer deaths than gun violence, but 278 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: receives almost ten times more funding from the government. Where 279 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: would we be if there was parody here? Well, you know, 280 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: it was stunning, and I thought the President did a 281 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: very good job last night of laying that out and 282 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: and making that reality clear to all Americans who were listening. 283 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: But we also need to underscore that as much attention 284 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: as the n r A gets, they are not the 285 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: number one lobbying group on behalf of gun rights. It's 286 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, you've got the National Sporting National Shooting 287 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: Sports Foundation spent five million and one the gun owners 288 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: of America make the n r A look like they're 289 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: liberal so you know, you've got a lot of lobbying 290 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 1: going on, a lot of money going there, and you know, 291 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: I thought, um, the President said last night was after 292 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: saying all of that, he said something that is out 293 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the fact. The fact is majority of Senate Republicans don't 294 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: want the proposals debated. They don't want him to come 295 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: up for a vote. And that's the reality of the 296 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: situation we find ourselves in. And the President, having spent 297 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: so many years in the Senate, knows that. Intuitively. You know, 298 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: if you don't get passage of these bills after Sandy 299 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: Hook with fifty four Democrats and twenty six deaths of kids, 300 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: or I guess it was twenty kids at that point, 301 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: what it's the likelihood today. So President Biden knows that. 302 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: And then of course he followed that up today by 303 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: saying he's not directly involved in the negotiations. I'm not 304 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: saying he should be, but it's hard to imagine this 305 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: getting moved forward in any capacity that deals with weapons. 306 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: Maybe doing school safety, maybe doing health issues, mental health, 307 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: but weapons hard to imagine because gun restrictions aren't really 308 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: on the table at this point. Rick, I'd like your 309 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: take on the speech last night, including the optics. The 310 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: President came down the cross Hall what some people like 311 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: to refer to as the been loaden walk, remembering Barack 312 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 1: Obama that day, lined with candles, lined with candles on 313 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 1: the floor, and reached the podium in the East Room, 314 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 1: from where he addressed the nation. How did he do? 315 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: You know? Look, I think that he was trying to 316 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: galvanize public attention on this. Uh. These kinds of speeches 317 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: do that. They echoed, well delivered, and and I didn't 318 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: think it was uh too much in the sense that 319 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people try to demagogue this issue, use 320 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: these moments to try and split it up. Even did 321 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: a shout out to responsible gun owners in the speech, 322 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: which I thought was very smart on his behalf, because 323 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: he's got to have a message that brings everybody to 324 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 1: the table. It's not good enough just to have his 325 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: party ginned up on this and wanting to make reforms. 326 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: He's got to bring in Republicans too, And I thought 327 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: that was the nature of the speech. So he's created 328 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: some pressure, but left the opening and I think, you know, 329 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: now the will of Congress has to work and pox 330 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: on their house if they're not able to get it done. 331 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Republicans and Democrats alike are going to be 332 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: seen as an effective It's not just one party is 333 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: going to not have the ability to walk away from this. 334 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: So we'll see, we'll see what happens. This next week 335 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 1: is going to be an important week for that. When 336 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: they all returned from from break, we're out of time. 337 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 1: Of course, Genie, would you expect a news conference with 338 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: an announcement of some sort of compromise next week? I 339 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: hope for it. The President did not go to filibuster 340 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: reform um. And also we heard Representative Chris Jacob's first 341 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: term from New York, a GOP from Buffalo. He supports 342 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: an assault weapons band. He's out of the race right now. 343 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: That's the reality of where we are. He has pulled 344 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: himself out of the reelection because of his support and 345 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: the pushback he got from Republicans. On that. Rick and 346 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: Genie with us for the Hour on a Friday on 347 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: sound on the fastest hour in politics, coming up the 348 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: hundred day War in Ukraine. This is Bloomberg broadcasting live 349 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: from our nation's capital, Bloomberg to New York, Bloomberg eleven 350 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Frio to Boston, Bloomberg one oh six one to San Francisco, 351 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to the Country, Serious x M General one nine, 352 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: and around the globe, the Bloomberg Business app and Bloomberg 353 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Radio dot Com. This is Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew. 354 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: The war in Ukraine has now been underway for a 355 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: hundred days, and as the intelligence community warns of a 356 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: Russian military gaining momentum in the east, the US plants 357 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: the flag once again in Kiev, where the embassy reopens 358 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: with a new ambassador, Bridget Brink, the first ambassador in 359 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: three years appointed to Ukraine. We're gonna talk with a 360 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: former colleague of hers, next Ambassador, Daniel Freed. The new 361 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: US ambassador has arrived in Kiev. As I mentioned, after 362 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: our diplomatic corps left the capitol when it became a 363 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: war zone a hundred days ago. We've we've hit the 364 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: hundred day mark. Bridget Brink is the first ambassador of 365 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: the US has appointed to Ukraine in three years. She 366 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: spoke from Kiev. It is in our vital national interest 367 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: to ensure peaceful and stable Europe and make clear that 368 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: might does not make right. A Michigan native, former ambassadors 369 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: to Slovakia and expert on the region and Eastern Europe 370 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: as a whole. We're joined now by a former colleague 371 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: of Ambassador Brink, and that's Daniel Freed, former Ambassador to Poland, 372 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,919 Speaker 1: former Assistant Secretary of State for Europe, now wiser family, 373 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: distinguished fellow at the Atlantic Council. Ambassador, welcome back. It's 374 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: great to have you beyond the obvious just show of 375 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: of of I won't say force, but presence for the 376 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: United States to have a diplomatic presence in Kiev and 377 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: and be there to show unity. What is this change 378 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,479 Speaker 1: in terms of our diplomatic relations with Kiev in the 379 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: future of the war? Rinchie Drink is an inspired choice 380 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: for US Ambassador to Ukraine. And what it means is 381 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: the US will have basically a twenty four or seven 382 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: connect to the Ukrainian government during a time of war. 383 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: It means that when Washington to sleep, uh Richard Brink 384 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: in Kiev will be active. It means whatever happens, whenever 385 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian government needs to contact the US government, she 386 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: will be down hand as a trust the interlocutor. And 387 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: this is before we get the bridget bring herself. I 388 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: think she's a fabulous choice for ambassador to Ukraine. Does 389 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: it hasten the end of the war? Does this somehow 390 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: created a new off ramp diplomatically or am I is 391 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: this wishful thinking? I don't think just having a US 392 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: embassy presence back in Kiev or a U s ambassador 393 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: in Kei is going to end the war. The war 394 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: will end either with the Ukrainian success on the battlefield 395 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: or the Russians being fatigued and wanting to get out, 396 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: which is possible horrible end if the Russians succeed in 397 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 1: seizing and holding enough territory uh that they can simply 398 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: stand their ground. We're not at that point yet. Much 399 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: depends on the battlefield, Much depends on US support militarily 400 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: for Ukraine and the support of other European countries, particularly Poland. 401 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: And this is something no one can predict right now. 402 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: It's a war and the fortunes of all will decide 403 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 1: a lot. Does having a diplomatic presence in Kiev protect 404 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: that city or make it more of a target Neither. 405 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: The Russians are going to go after Keys if they can. 406 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: They stop their offensives in Kiev because they had lost 407 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians and beat them. They retreated. Now the Russians 408 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: are trying to take ground in the east. Having a 409 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: US embassy in Keys does and make it a target 410 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: anymore than it was. It doesn't provide it protection. What 411 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: it does is give the US eyes and ears on 412 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: the ground, working with President Zelenski's train and his team. 413 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: That's awfully important to have. We could be going into 414 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: a difficult weekend here. We've said that a lot of 415 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: times Ambassador Freed, but the word from British intelligence is 416 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: that the the Luhansk region could fall in the next 417 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: two days. If if Russia starts to rope up territory 418 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: like that in the Don Boss, does that make this 419 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: war a much longer one. I don't know how difficult 420 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: it would be for Russia to hold those towns, but 421 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: this was already, of course, a very dangerous region before 422 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: the war began. The Russians have been advancing very slowly 423 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 1: in Lohansk and then, yes, particularly the Lohansk region. They 424 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: have been advancing at great cost to themselves. It's not 425 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: clear whether they can hold the ground they've taken. The 426 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Ukrainians have launched locally successful counter attacks, so the battle 427 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: is still being fought. The Russians, if they succeed in 428 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: capturing all of the Hansk could always proclaim a ceasefire 429 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: and claim victory on the basis of what they've already 430 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: managed to conquer from from Ukraine. But it's not clear 431 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 1: that they can hold that territory. They don't have a 432 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: lot of troops, They're facing a hostile and united population, 433 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: so this is not this is not a done deal 434 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 1: for the Russians. Ukrainians still have certain battlefield advantages because 435 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: they have an army that knows what it's fighting for. 436 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: They're getting more weapons from the U S and other countries, 437 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: and their population is is engaged. They're fighting for their lives. 438 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: The Russians are fighting for Vladimir Putin's cause, and Russian 439 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: morale doesn't seem to be high, so the battle is 440 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: still it hangs in the balance. Vladimir Putin says Russia 441 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: will allow grain exports by sea coming out of Ukraine, 442 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: which has been a real sticking point over the last 443 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Ambassador, is that the type of sign 444 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: is that maybe a glimmer of hope where you say, okay, 445 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: that we could add to that conversation and maybe progress 446 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: at the negotiating table. It would be good if President 447 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 1: Putin allowed Ukraine's grain to go to the world markets 448 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: in Africa and the Middle East that needed. The Russians 449 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 1: have been blocking this brain They've been stealing some of 450 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: this grain and selling it as their own, which is theft. 451 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: It's not clear that the Reds are going to allow 452 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: the Ukrainians to export grain. They've the Russians have sometimes 453 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: said they'll allow it to be exported only in return 454 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:12,160 Speaker 1: for lifting of sanctions. That's no deal. That's no deal 455 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: right now. One of the chief one of the priorities 456 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: for the US, for Ukraine and Europe in general, is 457 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 1: to unlock Ukraine's grain exports so Putin can't use the 458 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: weapon of starvation as additional leverage. And there are a 459 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 1: lot of ideas about how to do this. Escorts military 460 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: involvement under a U N flag possibly well, this this 461 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: hopefully is is one that that that is a positive 462 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,399 Speaker 1: development here as we report on the terminal that Russia 463 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: will allow grain exports by see we'll see if it 464 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: actually happens. Many thanks to the honorable Daniel Freed, Ambassador 465 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: with US again on Bloomberg Sound on and we'll reassemble 466 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: the panel next. Rick and Genie on the Fastest Hour 467 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: in Politics, This is Bloomer, This is Bloomberg. So long 468 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. I'm starting to think 469 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: that maybe Joe Biden and Elon Musk are not big 470 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: fans of one another. Of course, they don't seem to 471 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: like each other at all. Elon is not invited to 472 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: the electric car events at the White House. He's using 473 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: non union labor now, he says he's going to vote Republican. 474 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: All the time, it goes on, and it did not 475 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: get better today after Musk wrote in a letter to 476 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: Tesla executives that actually moved the stock that he has 477 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: a quote super bad feeling unquote about the US economy 478 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: and he wants to cut jobs and talking about a 479 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: ten percent cut to the workforce. Here, according to Reuter's 480 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: super bad, of course being shades worse than just plain 481 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: old bad. President Biden was asked about it today at 482 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,320 Speaker 1: the podium. Here's what he said. Has asked, has said 483 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: that he has a super bad feeling about the US economy, 484 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: is slaying off tempercent of his workforce. What do you say, 485 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: Elon Musk about his feeling about the economy. Jamie Diamond 486 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: has said some one thing. Well, I'm gonna tell you well, 487 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: Ian must is talking about that Ford is increasing their 488 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: investment overwhelming. I think Ford is increasing investment in bibilding 489 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: new electric vehicles, six thousand new employees, union employees. I 490 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: might add in the Midwest, UM, the former Chrysler corporations 491 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,160 Speaker 1: to launds, they are also making similar investments and electric vehicles. 492 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: Intel has about twenty thousand new jobs for making computer chips. Um. 493 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: So you know, lots of luck on his trip to 494 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: the moon. I mean, I don't, I mean you know. 495 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: So that's the line that good luck on the trip 496 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: to the moon, Biden tells Musk after economy warning. That's 497 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg story. By the way, this the got going 498 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter as well. The Elon Musk tweets thanks Mr 499 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: President with the news released from NASA that actually is 500 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 1: all about SpaceX, his company to land next Americans on 501 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: the moon. It's really something Biden versus Musk there. That's 502 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: they're like a microcosm of American politics, these two. And 503 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: on that note, our panel reassembled with Rick Davis and 504 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Jeanie Schanzano Bloomberg Politics Contributors. Was that as satisfactory answer 505 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: for starters, Genie? You know, he took a card out 506 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: of his pocket. I will note to run through those 507 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: stats that he had on the Ford and the Intel 508 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: investments and so forth. They knew that this was going 509 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: to come up today. Yeah, I think given the tension 510 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: between these two for supper months now, I mean Elon 511 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: Musk was like fact checking the state of the Union 512 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 1: in real time at one point. So it's it's been 513 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: pretty touch and go. I think the President handled this 514 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: pretty well. He could have, you know, criticized him. He 515 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,040 Speaker 1: he pivoted right to Ford an Intel, and then of course, 516 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: you know Elon Musk, Look, he wins out. He's got 517 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: the President talking about him, as if he needs anybody 518 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: else talking about him, He's able to go on and 519 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: trumpet you know, the work that he's doing. So you know, 520 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: I thought it was all in all pretty good for 521 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: both of them. And you know, the President and the 522 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: wealthiest man in the world, he's also an innovator, Rick 523 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: and my god, he's he's literally giving us our own 524 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: venue to get back to the space station and the 525 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: moon after we've been paying Russia to do this for 526 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: years and years, lots of luck on his trip to 527 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: the moon. What does something bad happen on that trip? 528 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: Is that appropriate for a president to say? No, he 529 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: totally sucked into the whole thing. I mean, I'm and 530 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm shocked that this actually went through some vetting inside 531 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: the White House staff and someone thought it was a 532 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: good idea to get a fight with Elon Musk. I mean, like, well, 533 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was on the card, but 534 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: at least got their head on the button in there. 535 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like that's I'm starting to get worried about 536 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: these guys. Uh No, it's it's it's ridiculous. Why pick 537 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: a fight with a guy who I mean, like, I 538 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: understand they don't like each other. Elon must doesn't have 539 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: unions and Joe Biden is the biggest union promoting president 540 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: in our time. I get it, But like, if you're 541 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: the president United States, you don't give a guy who's 542 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: actually gonna own Twitter a chance to come after you. 543 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's like, that's like incredibly bad idea, and 544 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: so I I think it's all crazy. Uh And I 545 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: agree with with what you're saying, Joe. I mean, like 546 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: Elon must doing a lot of really good things for 547 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 1: our country right now, and without his SpaceX, a lot 548 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 1: of our satellites wouldn't be going up in orbit because 549 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: they would have otherwise been shot on Russian rockets that 550 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 1: were not used now, thank goodness. So um, you know, 551 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: I think both of them need to go back to 552 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: their nucle neutral corner and pay less attention to each other. 553 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: Russia's bailing on the the I S S project at 554 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: some point here apparently Genie, they have no money really 555 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: for a space program, and we're gonna see to that. 556 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: Would it be maybe not a bad idea of a 557 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: little beer so that here or something? You know, I 558 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: have to disagree with you guys. I think the President 559 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: handled it fine. Listen. I don't think they wrote on 560 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: the card the thing about you know. But you know, listen, 561 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: you know the president, he is known to say things 562 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: off the cuff. He said it today, but he didn't 563 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: go after him and the way he could have. I mean, 564 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: let's not forget Elon Musk has been going after the 565 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: president for a while now. And you know, the President, 566 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: I think pivoted and talked about some good things, got 567 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 1: his message out there. I don't think it was so bad. 568 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 1: And hey, if they want to have a beer summit, 569 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: that's fine with me. Let him go have it. That'll 570 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: be good. Yes, Joe Biden's a teetotaler. Rick, right, that's 571 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,480 Speaker 1: not gonna happen. I don't think it should happen. Nothing 572 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,239 Speaker 1: good will come out of the first Nothing good came 573 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: out of the first beer summit? Why would it h 574 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't mean to be too cute 575 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,080 Speaker 1: about that, but to Genie's point, one of you, you've 576 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: got the richest man in the world here. To your point, 577 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: Rick Um, he's he's impacting civilization as as an innovator 578 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: and an employer, uh, driving the ev movement and of 579 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: course the Space Company among other things. Maybe uh, I 580 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe bring him to the White House 581 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: for for one of these events. I think, just be 582 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: kind to him when you're in public, I mean, like uh, 583 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: and and certainly include him when you're doing things related 584 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240 Speaker 1: to EVS. I mean, he wouldn't that diffuse the whole thing? 585 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: Absolutely well? I don't know if it will diffuse. What 586 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: do you think? I thought that was a misstep from 587 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 1: the start. But but let's be clear, this is this 588 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: White House communications team. I mean, just just look at 589 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: what happened when they were talking yesterday. Uh, you know 590 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: that this keeps going on and on, so I'm not 591 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,719 Speaker 1: surprised it was a missed up from the start. They 592 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: could have gotten this under control. I think the President 593 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 1: probably making light of it today as he was trying 594 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: to do, is probably the best thing we're going to 595 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 1: get out of this team. So what's more enjoyable than 596 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: a Friday afternoon checking out of work, little time with 597 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Rick and Jeanie our panel here on sound On. I'm Joe, 598 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: Matthew and Washington. Glad you came along. If you're just 599 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: joining us, you showed up late. I will remind you 600 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: to subscribe to the sound on podcast. You can find 601 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,240 Speaker 1: it wherever you get your podcasts. And So I finally 602 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: saw a top gun. Did you? You saw it right? 603 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: Everyone's seen it. From what I'm reading here, this thing 604 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: crossed the two million dollar mark yesterday. Top gun Maverick. 605 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: Of course, I had to go. Any American male around 606 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: my age has to go. But I didn't really fully 607 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: understand that until I found myself in a dark room 608 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:43,239 Speaker 1: with a whole bunch of other middle aged dudes, and 609 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: none of them with dates or friends for that matter. 610 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Everyone was there alone. I thought, you know, I'd be 611 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: cute and go to a mattinee, save a little money, 612 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: sneak into this thing. And I'm sitting here thinking what 613 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: am I doing? But I was sucked in, as I'm 614 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: sure you were if you saw it within seconds of 615 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: the open the music roles, and as somebody who has 616 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: actually done a catapult shot and a tail hook landing 617 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: on an aircraft carrier and survived and once pulled nine 618 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: g s in an F sixteen, I am here to 619 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: tell you that what you saw in this movie was 620 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 1: the real thing. This is what these guys go through. 621 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: Add the patriotic overtones, complete by the way, with showing 622 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: the Taiwan flag. Did you see that on Maverick's flight jacket? 623 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,239 Speaker 1: Made a very bold statement? And so is that why 624 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: it's doing so well? I mentioned across the two million 625 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: dollar mark yesterday and it's now on track to become 626 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: Tom Cruise's biggest domestic grossing film ever. All right, I 627 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 1: can't talk over the music and any longer, as cool 628 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 1: as that is, but the panel, at least half the 629 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: panel saw it. Rick Davis there is almost a need 630 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: right now. I think remember when the first Star Wars 631 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: movie came out and people were stuck in this malaise 632 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: and it gave them a great escape. It's something to 633 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: feel good about. Here was a more patriotic version of 634 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: that at a very difficult time in our politics. It's 635 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: the biggest movie to ever hit the theaters apparently. Yeah. 636 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for this for two years. It went 637 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: song last Saturday, and I could not have been more thrilled. 638 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640 Speaker 1: I was actually happy that it didn't come out during 639 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: COVID because I wouldn't have gone to a theater to 640 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: see watch it on you know, a streaming service, and 641 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 1: I would have been I would have been still impressed, 642 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,319 Speaker 1: but not not overwhelmed. It When you see it on 643 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: a big screen, it's just a different thing. And when 644 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: you're in a big room with people you know, who 645 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: are cheering when a good guys win for a change, 646 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, I couldn't imagine a better You wouldn't have 647 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 1: used the name Maverick for John McCain without the first movie, right, 648 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: Uh No, he was a Maverick before. I mean he was, 649 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: but that brought it into Alexica. Uh. You know it was. 650 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: It was used as a derisive phase within the GOP. 651 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: Refer to John McCain. I mean, it wasn't wasn't the 652 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: same thing, but but yeah, it was. It was. It 653 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: was all the same kind of emotion that tugged at 654 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,879 Speaker 1: your heartstrings and your mind when you thought of someone 655 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: as a maverick. And I just thought the first movie 656 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: was great, and I think this one has surpassed it. 657 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: Uh and and we'll we'll live on forever, as you know, 658 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: probably as you said, Tom Cruise's best film. Jimmie, I 659 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: know you didn't see the movie, but what do you 660 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: make of this sort of feeling right now that there 661 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: there's kind of a hunger for something to feel good 662 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: about the country that you live in into Rick's points 663 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: see the good Guys Win. I know that simple, but 664 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: it's apparently worth a lot of money. Joe Matthew, I 665 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: could not see the movie because I'm not a middle 666 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: aged man who could get into the theater too to 667 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: get a seat. So look a girl came in. Yeah 668 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: we're not allowed. And and and I told you before, 669 00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:53,680 Speaker 1: I'm sacrificing my seat until they booked Tom Cruise on 670 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: the show. And then I'm going to see it, and 671 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: don't fool me with any old Tom cruise. It's got 672 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:00,439 Speaker 1: to be the real one. But that's the deal. Yeah, 673 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: thank you, But you know I I do think there's 674 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: a hunger and look at it's a good sign. The 675 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: box office is up tremendously as a result, somebody's going 676 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 1: back to the movies. Rick and Jeannie meet us back 677 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,799 Speaker 1: here on Monday. This is Bloomberg.