1 00:00:06,413 --> 00:00:08,933 Speaker 1: NFL Cover Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is 2 00:00:08,933 --> 00:00:12,453 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. 3 00:00:20,573 --> 00:00:23,052 Speaker 2: All Right, it is now time for episode twelve of 4 00:00:23,172 --> 00:00:24,293 Speaker 2: NFL Cover Zero. 5 00:00:24,653 --> 00:00:28,453 Speaker 1: Drew, I actually thought today was a very compelling day 6 00:00:29,533 --> 00:00:30,813 Speaker 1: of NFL action. 7 00:00:31,133 --> 00:00:32,253 Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. 8 00:00:32,293 --> 00:00:35,772 Speaker 1: I watched all the Red Zone, even watched some actual 9 00:00:35,933 --> 00:00:38,733 Speaker 1: games like flipped it off red Zone and watched the 10 00:00:38,773 --> 00:00:39,693 Speaker 1: games sometimes. 11 00:00:39,853 --> 00:00:42,253 Speaker 3: I actually thought it was a really really good day 12 00:00:42,373 --> 00:00:44,213 Speaker 3: to be a fan. Yeah, thanks a lot, Billy, I 13 00:00:44,293 --> 00:00:47,133 Speaker 3: ruined a great NFL day with your bucks. But today 14 00:00:47,133 --> 00:00:48,933 Speaker 3: I had a lot of games where I completely thought 15 00:00:49,013 --> 00:00:50,933 Speaker 3: I knew the result in the third quarter and they 16 00:00:51,013 --> 00:00:51,653 Speaker 3: flipped the script. 17 00:00:51,773 --> 00:00:53,893 Speaker 2: So some exciting comebacks we'll get to really fun. 18 00:00:54,013 --> 00:00:54,213 Speaker 4: Yeah. 19 00:00:54,253 --> 00:00:56,133 Speaker 1: I think the last two or three weeks had kind 20 00:00:56,133 --> 00:01:01,733 Speaker 1: of been not the most exciting finishes, etc. But you 21 00:01:01,813 --> 00:01:04,573 Speaker 1: had that today. So the game of the day, and 22 00:01:04,932 --> 00:01:08,133 Speaker 1: maybe the game of the season in terms of importance, 23 00:01:08,572 --> 00:01:11,773 Speaker 1: is the Chiefs coming back and winning at home against 24 00:01:11,773 --> 00:01:14,372 Speaker 1: the Colts. There's a part of me that wonders Chiefs 25 00:01:14,413 --> 00:01:16,853 Speaker 1: win twenty three twenty in overtime. There's a part of 26 00:01:16,893 --> 00:01:19,652 Speaker 1: me that wonders if the rest of the AFC was 27 00:01:19,773 --> 00:01:22,773 Speaker 1: watching the end of that game, and they're really really 28 00:01:22,893 --> 00:01:25,292 Speaker 1: mad at the Colts because I think the Colts. 29 00:01:24,973 --> 00:01:28,372 Speaker 2: Had a chance to put the nail in the coffin. 30 00:01:28,973 --> 00:01:34,133 Speaker 1: And essentially, I think if the Chiefs lose today, their 31 00:01:34,212 --> 00:01:37,572 Speaker 1: shot of making the playoffs is low, and now they win, 32 00:01:38,092 --> 00:01:42,333 Speaker 1: their schedule gets favorable after next week. And I actually, 33 00:01:43,333 --> 00:01:46,892 Speaker 1: you know, we may look back and say that into 34 00:01:46,973 --> 00:01:50,213 Speaker 1: fourth quarter had a huge was a turning point of 35 00:01:50,253 --> 00:01:50,773 Speaker 1: the season. 36 00:01:51,813 --> 00:01:53,653 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I just said, you know, I wrote some 37 00:01:53,693 --> 00:01:55,733 Speaker 3: teams off today thinking it was over. I had the 38 00:01:55,813 --> 00:01:58,333 Speaker 3: Chiefs in mind, not that third quarter. I'm thinking the 39 00:01:58,413 --> 00:02:00,933 Speaker 3: dynasty is dead. They're going to miss the playoffs this year. 40 00:02:01,253 --> 00:02:03,693 Speaker 3: And I'm watching that game unfold. Even Mahomes in the 41 00:02:03,733 --> 00:02:06,493 Speaker 3: fourth quarter with the ball, I just thought to have 42 00:02:06,613 --> 00:02:08,692 Speaker 3: changed and that they're on the wrong end of that dynasty. 43 00:02:08,813 --> 00:02:11,413 Speaker 3: And now the Chiefs they're still chief and having that 44 00:02:11,453 --> 00:02:12,333 Speaker 3: fourth quarter of magic. 45 00:02:12,693 --> 00:02:15,413 Speaker 2: Well, he didn't look like Mahomes until the fourth quarter, 46 00:02:15,573 --> 00:02:17,533 Speaker 2: Like he just he was off. 47 00:02:17,813 --> 00:02:19,653 Speaker 1: There was that one play they were you know, so 48 00:02:19,693 --> 00:02:23,333 Speaker 1: they're down eleven, they're driving to try to get it 49 00:02:23,413 --> 00:02:25,133 Speaker 1: down to you know, at least cut it to a 50 00:02:25,133 --> 00:02:27,893 Speaker 1: one score game. He has Kelsey wide open and he 51 00:02:27,973 --> 00:02:30,053 Speaker 1: overthrows him by like ten yards. 52 00:02:30,573 --> 00:02:32,853 Speaker 2: And I saw that play and I thought, because I. 53 00:02:33,173 --> 00:02:37,373 Speaker 1: Don't question Patrick Malmes, I'm picking Patrick Mahomes over anybody. 54 00:02:37,533 --> 00:02:39,333 Speaker 1: And I saw that throw and that was like the 55 00:02:39,373 --> 00:02:44,093 Speaker 1: first time that I've kind of gone, wait a minute, 56 00:02:44,733 --> 00:02:47,693 Speaker 1: maybe this isn't Patrick Mahmes, because Kelsey's actually looked really 57 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:52,213 Speaker 1: good this year, and I'm like, you miss you missed him, 58 00:02:52,253 --> 00:02:55,973 Speaker 1: and you missed him by a lot. They punt, holding 59 00:02:56,013 --> 00:02:58,653 Speaker 1: Annapolis get it back and then they do what they 60 00:02:58,693 --> 00:03:00,893 Speaker 1: do there at the end. But still there were a 61 00:03:00,933 --> 00:03:03,453 Speaker 1: lot of chances for them to blow it. You know, 62 00:03:03,493 --> 00:03:07,293 Speaker 1: they they're first in goal from the two in regulation, 63 00:03:07,613 --> 00:03:10,773 Speaker 1: they don't get in for a They manage the clock perfectly, 64 00:03:11,013 --> 00:03:13,733 Speaker 1: but they don't get in for a touchdown, and then 65 00:03:13,773 --> 00:03:16,173 Speaker 1: they win it in overtime. But I do I think 66 00:03:16,213 --> 00:03:18,413 Speaker 1: the AFC is gonna rue the day they didn't put 67 00:03:18,413 --> 00:03:19,613 Speaker 1: the stake in them today. 68 00:03:20,013 --> 00:03:23,173 Speaker 3: That's right, And you know it's it's still Mahomes. You know, 69 00:03:23,293 --> 00:03:24,533 Speaker 3: they have a great game. I don't think I had 70 00:03:24,533 --> 00:03:27,653 Speaker 3: a TD had an interception. But you're thinking they're getting 71 00:03:27,693 --> 00:03:29,573 Speaker 3: old and it might be the back end, but they 72 00:03:29,613 --> 00:03:31,933 Speaker 3: still have some youth like Rashie Rice had such a 73 00:03:31,973 --> 00:03:32,453 Speaker 3: big game. 74 00:03:32,533 --> 00:03:35,573 Speaker 2: I thought it was unfair that he saved a Worthy catch. Yeah, 75 00:03:35,653 --> 00:03:38,253 Speaker 2: that's Worthy. That's the play of the year for the Chiefs. 76 00:03:38,253 --> 00:03:39,173 Speaker 2: It's third and seven. 77 00:03:39,733 --> 00:03:42,853 Speaker 1: You know, Mahomes gets pressured, he makes a good throw 78 00:03:42,933 --> 00:03:45,613 Speaker 1: but not a great throw, and Worthy has to adjust 79 00:03:45,693 --> 00:03:49,413 Speaker 1: and that catch. I think it'll be that that could 80 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:50,733 Speaker 1: end up being the play of the year. 81 00:03:51,333 --> 00:03:53,293 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's two of the young guys that stepped up 82 00:03:53,333 --> 00:03:55,253 Speaker 3: helped him out. I thought it was unfair when the 83 00:03:55,293 --> 00:03:57,053 Speaker 3: Chiefs were able to get both of those players to 84 00:03:57,133 --> 00:04:00,493 Speaker 3: kind of give Mahomes new, younger weapons as Kelsey gets older, 85 00:04:00,813 --> 00:04:03,373 Speaker 3: but also their defense stepped up. There was like several 86 00:04:03,413 --> 00:04:05,613 Speaker 3: maybe three or four straight three and outs for the Colts. 87 00:04:05,613 --> 00:04:06,373 Speaker 2: There is the chief Yeah. 88 00:04:06,373 --> 00:04:08,093 Speaker 1: Well, let me give you some stats here because I 89 00:04:08,093 --> 00:04:10,853 Speaker 1: think this is you know, it's easy to look at 90 00:04:10,853 --> 00:04:12,493 Speaker 1: this game and go, well, the Colts blew it, but 91 00:04:12,493 --> 00:04:14,733 Speaker 1: I actually think it's the opposite. I mean, I think 92 00:04:14,773 --> 00:04:18,613 Speaker 1: the Chiefs dominated the game statistically. If they ran ninety 93 00:04:18,693 --> 00:04:24,693 Speaker 1: one plays compared to fifty for Indianapolis. In the second half, 94 00:04:24,813 --> 00:04:27,892 Speaker 1: I think it was something like forty five to twelve 95 00:04:28,412 --> 00:04:31,852 Speaker 1: in terms of a play differential, but they just couldn't 96 00:04:31,892 --> 00:04:33,013 Speaker 1: convert in the red zone. 97 00:04:33,053 --> 00:04:34,013 Speaker 2: So this would have been a game. 98 00:04:34,013 --> 00:04:36,212 Speaker 1: If the Chiefs had lost that they really would have 99 00:04:36,573 --> 00:04:40,813 Speaker 1: said we were the better team and we lost. They 100 00:04:40,853 --> 00:04:43,293 Speaker 1: could you know, they had a Mahomes had a terrible 101 00:04:43,332 --> 00:04:47,652 Speaker 1: interception that they ran back. But the big stat for 102 00:04:47,733 --> 00:04:50,212 Speaker 1: me is what you said about the defense. Last four 103 00:04:50,253 --> 00:04:53,972 Speaker 1: possessions for the Colts, three and out, all four possessions, 104 00:04:54,013 --> 00:04:55,333 Speaker 1: only twelve plays. 105 00:04:56,092 --> 00:04:58,533 Speaker 2: That's as good as Mahomes was. That's the difference in 106 00:04:58,573 --> 00:04:58,933 Speaker 2: the game. 107 00:04:59,412 --> 00:05:01,732 Speaker 3: Yeah, those three and outs and then just in total, 108 00:05:01,853 --> 00:05:04,213 Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor was a non factory. That's a guy we've 109 00:05:04,212 --> 00:05:06,533 Speaker 3: been talking about, could maybe be a run back to 110 00:05:06,613 --> 00:05:08,332 Speaker 3: Finally gets had. 111 00:05:07,772 --> 00:05:09,892 Speaker 2: Run really one good run the whole game. 112 00:05:10,212 --> 00:05:12,573 Speaker 3: Had fifty something yards and as the game went on, 113 00:05:12,693 --> 00:05:14,613 Speaker 3: I mean, he was they didn't really go to him. 114 00:05:14,652 --> 00:05:16,573 Speaker 3: They kind of left in Daniel Jones hands. I mean, 115 00:05:16,613 --> 00:05:19,693 Speaker 3: you've got a guy who's absolutely dominated this year. Last weekend, 116 00:05:19,733 --> 00:05:21,332 Speaker 3: like two hundred and fifty yards on the ground. The 117 00:05:21,373 --> 00:05:24,573 Speaker 3: Chiefs held him to fifty whatever today, So great all 118 00:05:24,613 --> 00:05:26,452 Speaker 3: around performance by the Chiefs, even though it was a 119 00:05:26,452 --> 00:05:27,173 Speaker 3: little slow start. 120 00:05:27,212 --> 00:05:28,413 Speaker 2: They turned it on both sides. 121 00:05:28,693 --> 00:05:32,373 Speaker 1: This was also only their second one PM game all year. 122 00:05:32,573 --> 00:05:36,892 Speaker 1: I mean they have had the most bizarre schedule in 123 00:05:37,013 --> 00:05:39,733 Speaker 1: terms of the NFL. I mean they're showcasing them. Put 124 00:05:39,772 --> 00:05:42,693 Speaker 1: them on Netflix, put them on YouTube. You know, half 125 00:05:42,772 --> 00:05:45,852 Speaker 1: Billy do a half naked dance before the game. I 126 00:05:45,853 --> 00:05:49,173 Speaker 1: mean like they've done whatever they could do to make 127 00:05:49,293 --> 00:05:52,533 Speaker 1: them the showcase event. They're playing on Thanksgiving at Dallas 128 00:05:52,813 --> 00:05:56,053 Speaker 1: on Thursday, which is a CD now becomes a huge game, 129 00:05:56,332 --> 00:05:58,133 Speaker 1: and they're going to be going to Dallas on four 130 00:05:58,212 --> 00:06:00,173 Speaker 1: days rest after a hard game. 131 00:06:00,212 --> 00:06:03,332 Speaker 2: But I'm interested. 132 00:06:03,092 --> 00:06:06,853 Speaker 1: If if they keep this going, like you were, to 133 00:06:06,853 --> 00:06:10,812 Speaker 1: get one more with this era of the Chiefs. People 134 00:06:10,813 --> 00:06:13,292 Speaker 1: are just gonna be so mad at Styching for some 135 00:06:13,332 --> 00:06:15,732 Speaker 1: of those play calls in the fourth quarter. 136 00:06:16,373 --> 00:06:18,212 Speaker 3: Yeah, a big opportunity to put the nail in the 137 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:21,772 Speaker 3: coffin today. I think, you know, they don't win today. 138 00:06:21,813 --> 00:06:22,973 Speaker 3: I don't think they make the playoffs. 139 00:06:22,972 --> 00:06:23,852 Speaker 2: No, I don't either. 140 00:06:24,173 --> 00:06:26,373 Speaker 3: I was even thinking in that third quarter because I'd 141 00:06:26,412 --> 00:06:28,813 Speaker 3: written him off. I was thinking back, like, man, I 142 00:06:28,813 --> 00:06:30,693 Speaker 3: wonder if Travis Kelsey, if they could have just won 143 00:06:30,693 --> 00:06:32,772 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl last year, he steps away on top 144 00:06:33,013 --> 00:06:35,452 Speaker 3: now they're gonna limp out and not make the playoffs. 145 00:06:34,972 --> 00:06:36,413 Speaker 2: And what could be his last year. 146 00:06:36,652 --> 00:06:38,452 Speaker 3: But then they flipped the script and who knows them 147 00:06:38,693 --> 00:06:39,692 Speaker 3: they could go and do it again. 148 00:06:40,053 --> 00:06:41,093 Speaker 2: I loved it. 149 00:06:41,092 --> 00:06:43,412 Speaker 1: It was It also felt like a big game, you know, 150 00:06:43,532 --> 00:06:48,532 Speaker 1: Tony Romo was doing Romo things, making sounds, trying to 151 00:06:48,532 --> 00:06:52,653 Speaker 1: predict plays. He also he was the master of hyperbole. 152 00:06:52,733 --> 00:06:54,932 Speaker 1: He said the worthy catch was one of the best 153 00:06:54,972 --> 00:06:58,332 Speaker 1: he'd ever seen. He also called a pass offensive pass 154 00:06:58,373 --> 00:07:02,013 Speaker 1: interference on Kelsey. I think he said it's the worst 155 00:07:02,053 --> 00:07:05,573 Speaker 1: call in a decade, which is a strong, strong thing. 156 00:07:05,613 --> 00:07:08,173 Speaker 1: It wasn't bad call they called off. It's a pass 157 00:07:08,173 --> 00:07:10,413 Speaker 1: interference that he didn't even touch the guy. He used 158 00:07:10,413 --> 00:07:13,373 Speaker 1: the phrase we get in a little tushy, which I 159 00:07:13,413 --> 00:07:16,133 Speaker 1: thought was I didn't know was the thing you could say, 160 00:07:16,253 --> 00:07:19,533 Speaker 1: but they were, you know, Romo. It felt like a 161 00:07:19,533 --> 00:07:21,413 Speaker 1: big game, and the fact that it was at one 162 00:07:21,413 --> 00:07:22,493 Speaker 1: o'clock was weird. 163 00:07:22,533 --> 00:07:25,692 Speaker 2: But I'm I really enjoyed it. For me, in terms 164 00:07:25,693 --> 00:07:27,893 Speaker 2: of games I haven't attended, it was probably the most 165 00:07:27,973 --> 00:07:29,093 Speaker 2: enjoyable game of the year. 166 00:07:29,773 --> 00:07:31,013 Speaker 3: That's a lot of fun. And you're right about the 167 00:07:31,053 --> 00:07:32,612 Speaker 3: one o'clock thing. That should have been in the four 168 00:07:32,733 --> 00:07:35,693 Speaker 3: thirty window down with all the chaos of Witching Hour 169 00:07:35,733 --> 00:07:37,253 Speaker 3: because we had so many great ones in the one 170 00:07:37,253 --> 00:07:40,413 Speaker 3: o'clock slot, but still a great game. And I again, 171 00:07:40,693 --> 00:07:42,493 Speaker 3: I think I wrote the Chiefs off earlier in the year, 172 00:07:43,413 --> 00:07:44,372 Speaker 3: a few weeks after. 173 00:07:44,213 --> 00:07:47,373 Speaker 2: That third quarter. Today I'm just done writing them off. 174 00:07:47,413 --> 00:07:47,773 Speaker 2: The Chiefs. 175 00:07:48,013 --> 00:07:50,093 Speaker 1: To make a prediction, you're going to see a headline 176 00:07:50,173 --> 00:07:53,373 Speaker 1: like tomorrow or Tuesday that is going to say that 177 00:07:53,413 --> 00:07:56,372 Speaker 1: the ratings for today those two. 178 00:07:56,213 --> 00:07:57,732 Speaker 2: Early games are some of the best ever. 179 00:07:57,813 --> 00:08:00,373 Speaker 1: The combination of you get that Chiefs Colts game in 180 00:08:00,373 --> 00:08:02,612 Speaker 1: the earlier and then the fact that the Eagles and 181 00:08:02,613 --> 00:08:05,853 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, which we'll get to, was so compelling at 182 00:08:05,853 --> 00:08:07,373 Speaker 1: the end, and I think that this is going to 183 00:08:07,453 --> 00:08:10,493 Speaker 1: end up being like a record ratings day for the 184 00:08:11,293 --> 00:08:15,213 Speaker 1: for the NFL. My Bears were probably in the I 185 00:08:15,253 --> 00:08:17,693 Speaker 1: don't know, the second most compelling game of the day 186 00:08:17,733 --> 00:08:20,933 Speaker 1: against the Steelers. They end up winning thirty one to 187 00:08:21,053 --> 00:08:25,253 Speaker 1: twenty eight. They have won. It's the exact opposite of 188 00:08:25,373 --> 00:08:28,612 Speaker 1: last year. Last year they lost every way they could 189 00:08:28,693 --> 00:08:33,132 Speaker 1: possibly lose, and now this year they're winning these games. 190 00:08:34,813 --> 00:08:36,293 Speaker 2: I don't know. Masterful performance. 191 00:08:36,373 --> 00:08:38,893 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph had a chance at the end, had two 192 00:08:38,973 --> 00:08:41,253 Speaker 1: chances because the Bears weren't able to get a first down, 193 00:08:41,693 --> 00:08:44,573 Speaker 1: and even though he played pretty well, I wasn't able 194 00:08:44,613 --> 00:08:47,493 Speaker 1: to do it. And my Bears are eight and three, 195 00:08:47,653 --> 00:08:52,333 Speaker 1: which is crazy to me. Eight out of nine, right, yeah, 196 00:08:52,453 --> 00:08:54,573 Speaker 1: I mean one eight out of nine and winning games 197 00:08:54,573 --> 00:08:57,293 Speaker 1: that give me a heart attack. But they're winning. They 198 00:08:57,373 --> 00:08:58,453 Speaker 1: usually don't. 199 00:08:59,093 --> 00:09:02,133 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know how Bears fins feel eternally, 200 00:09:02,213 --> 00:09:05,453 Speaker 3: but Caleb Williams has been really great in this last 201 00:09:05,453 --> 00:09:09,533 Speaker 3: streitch month whatever. It's been three touchdowns today, so they're 202 00:09:09,533 --> 00:09:10,733 Speaker 3: calling him cardiac Caleb. 203 00:09:11,093 --> 00:09:14,013 Speaker 1: I mean, he's very few stupid plays he I mean 204 00:09:14,093 --> 00:09:16,413 Speaker 1: last year was characterized by he would do something great, 205 00:09:16,413 --> 00:09:17,493 Speaker 1: but then he would do something stupid. 206 00:09:17,573 --> 00:09:19,613 Speaker 2: He's cut those down. Yeah. 207 00:09:19,653 --> 00:09:21,493 Speaker 3: The Ben Johnson has been great for him and all 208 00:09:21,493 --> 00:09:23,613 Speaker 3: the pieces around him. And I gotta admit I've never 209 00:09:23,693 --> 00:09:25,293 Speaker 3: been a Bears guy, not that I've been a hater. 210 00:09:25,813 --> 00:09:28,053 Speaker 3: You know, they're just there. They're the Bears, They're your team. 211 00:09:28,093 --> 00:09:30,973 Speaker 3: I've had a lot of fun watching them this year too, 212 00:09:31,173 --> 00:09:33,493 Speaker 3: if I can, I've already bandwaggoned too many teams after 213 00:09:33,533 --> 00:09:35,453 Speaker 3: our trip to Buffalo, But if you all get in the. 214 00:09:35,413 --> 00:09:37,733 Speaker 2: Playoffs, I'll be pulling for the Bears. I'm gonna go 215 00:09:37,973 --> 00:09:38,253 Speaker 2: they can. 216 00:09:38,813 --> 00:09:41,253 Speaker 1: I've decided if they make the playoffs, especially if they're 217 00:09:41,253 --> 00:09:43,253 Speaker 1: at home, but even if they don't, I think I'm 218 00:09:43,253 --> 00:09:47,653 Speaker 1: gonna go just because I'm not gonna go crazy and 219 00:09:47,693 --> 00:09:51,333 Speaker 1: say like this is the start of an era. But 220 00:09:51,413 --> 00:09:54,573 Speaker 1: it does feel like when you watch Caleb Williams, when 221 00:09:54,613 --> 00:09:58,413 Speaker 1: you watch quarterbacks sort of build to be really good. 222 00:09:58,613 --> 00:10:00,373 Speaker 2: This is kind of where they are in year two. 223 00:10:00,493 --> 00:10:03,893 Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels like fast forward last year, but then has 224 00:10:03,893 --> 00:10:06,693 Speaker 1: taken a step back. But you know, last year we're 225 00:10:06,773 --> 00:10:08,852 Speaker 1: better than they weorthy year before, but you saw a 226 00:10:08,893 --> 00:10:11,213 Speaker 1: lot of rookie paynes and then this year they started 227 00:10:11,213 --> 00:10:13,933 Speaker 1: to I mean, the fact that leading the division is nuts. 228 00:10:15,013 --> 00:10:16,853 Speaker 2: I love that we beat Aaron Rodgers. 229 00:10:17,013 --> 00:10:20,013 Speaker 1: I'm counting it as a victory over Aaron Rodgers. Even 230 00:10:20,013 --> 00:10:23,653 Speaker 1: though he didn't play. I'm gonna argue he was chicken 231 00:10:23,813 --> 00:10:25,973 Speaker 1: for not playing because he knew the Bears were gonna 232 00:10:25,973 --> 00:10:27,653 Speaker 1: break that thirteen game winning streak. 233 00:10:28,333 --> 00:10:30,133 Speaker 3: I was about to ask you, did you enjoy there's 234 00:10:30,173 --> 00:10:31,253 Speaker 3: a few satelline shots. 235 00:10:31,293 --> 00:10:33,373 Speaker 2: You know, Mason Rudolf wasn't that bad. He was fine, 236 00:10:33,693 --> 00:10:34,213 Speaker 2: He's fine. 237 00:10:34,373 --> 00:10:37,653 Speaker 1: He's exactly like a guy named Mason Rudolph would play. 238 00:10:37,973 --> 00:10:39,733 Speaker 2: But I know you had to feel something. 239 00:10:39,773 --> 00:10:42,693 Speaker 3: Knowen Rodgers had your number for a decade and would 240 00:10:42,693 --> 00:10:44,853 Speaker 3: brag about it, saying he owned Chicago. And then he 241 00:10:44,853 --> 00:10:47,253 Speaker 3: had to sit there and watch his Steelers take a loss. 242 00:10:47,493 --> 00:10:49,173 Speaker 3: It's a big hit to them. Big win for the 243 00:10:49,173 --> 00:10:51,173 Speaker 3: Bears and their standing is a big hit to the Steelers. 244 00:10:51,293 --> 00:10:53,453 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he in my opinion, he's owen one 245 00:10:53,613 --> 00:10:56,893 Speaker 1: as a quarterback against the Bears. You know, yeah it's 246 00:10:56,893 --> 00:10:59,852 Speaker 1: a different team, and yeah he didn't play, but those 247 00:10:59,893 --> 00:11:02,732 Speaker 1: are details right now, he walks away with the l 248 00:11:04,093 --> 00:11:07,693 Speaker 1: Kay Williams said that he hired Aaron Rodgers a lot 249 00:11:07,733 --> 00:11:09,973 Speaker 1: and wanted to play against him and wanted to meet him, 250 00:11:09,973 --> 00:11:12,133 Speaker 1: and I guess didn't even get to meet him. But 251 00:11:12,253 --> 00:11:15,253 Speaker 1: you know what, all the more reason Aaron Rodgers stinks 252 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:18,053 Speaker 1: Caleb's the future. I just want Aaron Rodgers to go 253 00:11:18,093 --> 00:11:22,453 Speaker 1: get his podcast on the Blaze Network and go away. 254 00:11:23,213 --> 00:11:25,333 Speaker 2: Is there anything on Rogers coming back? Or is that 255 00:11:25,413 --> 00:11:26,253 Speaker 2: old man Risks? 256 00:11:26,293 --> 00:11:28,813 Speaker 1: Is it just too much? I would think he plays 257 00:11:28,893 --> 00:11:31,053 Speaker 1: next week, I mean next week. Now this sets up 258 00:11:31,053 --> 00:11:34,133 Speaker 1: they'll play the Ravens. They're tied for first, that'll be 259 00:11:34,213 --> 00:11:36,773 Speaker 1: for the North lead. I'm guessing he set out this 260 00:11:36,853 --> 00:11:39,293 Speaker 1: week so that he could play next week. 261 00:11:39,333 --> 00:11:40,533 Speaker 2: That would make a lot of sense. 262 00:11:41,173 --> 00:11:43,053 Speaker 3: Well, I thought about you every time they showed him 263 00:11:43,093 --> 00:11:44,533 Speaker 3: or talked about him, because you had to deal with 264 00:11:44,573 --> 00:11:46,773 Speaker 3: that guy for many years taking ls to the Packers. 265 00:11:47,213 --> 00:11:49,373 Speaker 2: And I want a big one today. I mean there's 266 00:11:49,453 --> 00:11:50,333 Speaker 2: nobody I want. 267 00:11:50,453 --> 00:11:53,613 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as I enjoyed winning, watching him 268 00:11:53,693 --> 00:11:57,693 Speaker 1: lose I think make me even even happier. 269 00:11:57,813 --> 00:12:01,653 Speaker 2: So the big the one story not about the game. TJ. 270 00:12:01,813 --> 00:12:06,853 Speaker 2: Watt broke. I love how the characterized this. 271 00:12:06,973 --> 00:12:11,973 Speaker 1: They said he broke the Watt record for sacks, which 272 00:12:11,973 --> 00:12:14,213 Speaker 1: I feel like is an odd way to characterize that 273 00:12:14,253 --> 00:12:17,253 Speaker 1: you passed your brother in sacks. I mean, it's not 274 00:12:17,333 --> 00:12:19,333 Speaker 1: like there's a tradition. I don't think there's somewhere I 275 00:12:19,373 --> 00:12:22,373 Speaker 1: go with the Wat sack record. I don't know how 276 00:12:22,373 --> 00:12:25,413 Speaker 1: many his dad had or his cousins, but it is 277 00:12:25,453 --> 00:12:28,453 Speaker 1: cool he brought he beat his brother's record with JJ 278 00:12:28,773 --> 00:12:29,293 Speaker 1: on the call. 279 00:12:29,373 --> 00:12:30,693 Speaker 2: I thought that was kind of nice. 280 00:12:31,333 --> 00:12:33,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little silly to frame it that way, 281 00:12:33,093 --> 00:12:35,333 Speaker 3: but it also just shows how good the Wade brothers 282 00:12:35,333 --> 00:12:38,133 Speaker 3: are that they can even paint the stat that way. 283 00:12:38,173 --> 00:12:40,413 Speaker 3: I mean, they have been incredible, both of them, not 284 00:12:40,493 --> 00:12:43,373 Speaker 3: really highly recruited out of high school, kind of slid 285 00:12:43,373 --> 00:12:44,973 Speaker 3: into the NFL and have been two of the best 286 00:12:44,973 --> 00:12:45,093 Speaker 3: of it. 287 00:12:45,253 --> 00:12:46,293 Speaker 2: So let's that made me? 288 00:12:46,413 --> 00:12:48,813 Speaker 1: That had me thinking, okay, so what are the best 289 00:12:48,853 --> 00:12:51,013 Speaker 1: brothers in sports? 290 00:12:51,493 --> 00:12:53,293 Speaker 2: All right? So start with the NFL. 291 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:56,893 Speaker 1: Since this is an ultimate NFL podcast, I think you 292 00:12:56,973 --> 00:13:01,533 Speaker 1: have to say the man's obviously of course with Peyton 293 00:13:01,573 --> 00:13:02,053 Speaker 1: and Eli. 294 00:13:02,813 --> 00:13:06,573 Speaker 2: Now you have the Watts. What other ones? 295 00:13:06,773 --> 00:13:09,373 Speaker 1: Billy, you should google this because I'm sure we're not 296 00:13:09,413 --> 00:13:11,253 Speaker 1: gonna remember everybody. 297 00:13:11,413 --> 00:13:14,293 Speaker 2: There's gonna be there's gonna be much better than this group. 298 00:13:14,373 --> 00:13:19,093 Speaker 1: But Devil, Jason Easy and Aussie Dean or something, there's 299 00:13:19,093 --> 00:13:20,213 Speaker 1: probably gonna be on the list. 300 00:13:20,253 --> 00:13:24,213 Speaker 3: That's Devon, Devon and Jason mccordy, the core, the okay, 301 00:13:24,773 --> 00:13:29,413 Speaker 3: great announcer. Why am I completely blanking on the running 302 00:13:29,453 --> 00:13:36,413 Speaker 3: back from the Giants? But yeah, yeah, Tiki and Ronde 303 00:13:36,773 --> 00:13:37,693 Speaker 3: those two come to mind. 304 00:13:37,813 --> 00:13:40,013 Speaker 5: Sterling and Shannon Sharp was another one. 305 00:13:40,053 --> 00:13:40,733 Speaker 2: That's a good one. 306 00:13:41,973 --> 00:13:43,853 Speaker 1: I don't think you're allowed to act like Shannon Sharp 307 00:13:43,973 --> 00:13:46,533 Speaker 1: still is around, but but yes, they that is actually 308 00:13:46,533 --> 00:13:47,773 Speaker 1: those are two Hall of famers. 309 00:13:47,813 --> 00:13:49,853 Speaker 3: I mean, you got there's lost three guys that have 310 00:13:49,893 --> 00:13:53,053 Speaker 3: a podcast. They're they're all right, that's right to Kelsey's 311 00:13:53,053 --> 00:13:53,733 Speaker 3: are pretty good. 312 00:13:54,013 --> 00:13:56,253 Speaker 1: That's a good point. Well, that's a good question. I mean, 313 00:13:56,253 --> 00:13:58,493 Speaker 1: think about you. We've just mentioned a bunch where both 314 00:13:58,573 --> 00:13:59,933 Speaker 1: brothers are gonna be in the Hall of Fame. I mean, 315 00:13:59,973 --> 00:14:02,133 Speaker 1: the Sharps are both in the Hall of Fame. The 316 00:14:02,173 --> 00:14:03,973 Speaker 1: Mannings are are both in the Hall of Fame. 317 00:14:03,973 --> 00:14:04,613 Speaker 2: We're going to be. 318 00:14:06,293 --> 00:14:11,133 Speaker 1: The Watts are there? I don't know, are the mccordy's 319 00:14:11,333 --> 00:14:13,253 Speaker 1: one of them will be? What about the other one? 320 00:14:14,693 --> 00:14:15,213 Speaker 2: Unlikely? 321 00:14:15,533 --> 00:14:19,573 Speaker 1: No? Yeah, and then the Barbers. I would think which 322 00:14:19,613 --> 00:14:22,373 Speaker 1: ones are either of them in? Are they both in? 323 00:14:22,853 --> 00:14:24,653 Speaker 1: Ron know who's in the NFL Hall of Fame. 324 00:14:24,733 --> 00:14:27,213 Speaker 6: To be honest with you, I think Ronde got the honor. 325 00:14:27,773 --> 00:14:30,573 Speaker 6: But I'm going to the Bosa brothers. Do you want 326 00:14:30,573 --> 00:14:31,293 Speaker 6: to throw another one in? 327 00:14:32,893 --> 00:14:34,653 Speaker 2: I've got to do that too. No, I mean they 328 00:14:34,693 --> 00:14:37,813 Speaker 2: definitely should be in there, Yes, the Bosa brothers. Who else? 329 00:14:37,933 --> 00:14:40,613 Speaker 2: How many Gramaticas were there? I'm going back. 330 00:14:40,653 --> 00:14:44,533 Speaker 3: I know there's a Bill Martin, was there other Grammatica's 331 00:14:44,653 --> 00:14:46,253 Speaker 3: I think there was a Bill, wasn't there? 332 00:14:46,413 --> 00:14:48,173 Speaker 2: Yeah? Bill and Martin for sure, there might have been 333 00:14:48,213 --> 00:14:52,013 Speaker 2: another one. I like Bill is the name? My name 334 00:14:52,053 --> 00:14:53,253 Speaker 2: is Bill Grammatica. 335 00:14:53,453 --> 00:14:56,093 Speaker 3: I like that we're naming these so easily. You know, 336 00:14:56,333 --> 00:14:58,573 Speaker 3: there's a lot of peace to be so hard to 337 00:14:58,613 --> 00:15:00,813 Speaker 3: make the NFL. It seems like it might be in 338 00:15:00,853 --> 00:15:02,533 Speaker 3: the bloodline a little bit. If one guy gets in. 339 00:15:02,573 --> 00:15:04,973 Speaker 3: There's We've named a lot of brothers, okay. 340 00:15:05,093 --> 00:15:08,093 Speaker 1: And then I was thinking, all right, so baseball you 341 00:15:08,253 --> 00:15:11,013 Speaker 1: have I feel like in baseball one brother is a 342 00:15:11,053 --> 00:15:12,933 Speaker 1: lot better than the other one. The other one kind 343 00:15:12,933 --> 00:15:17,653 Speaker 1: of like gets dragged along, like Joe and Dom DiMaggio, 344 00:15:17,973 --> 00:15:21,733 Speaker 1: Tom is along for the ride, Cal and Billy Ripken. 345 00:15:21,973 --> 00:15:24,613 Speaker 1: Billy's just known for having a cussword on his bat. 346 00:15:26,933 --> 00:15:32,453 Speaker 1: Right here, Yeah, Jose and Ozzie Conseko again along for 347 00:15:32,533 --> 00:15:37,973 Speaker 1: the ride out. There are two long relievers named Rogers, 348 00:15:38,453 --> 00:15:39,653 Speaker 1: Taylor and something. 349 00:15:40,093 --> 00:15:43,733 Speaker 3: But do you can you think of others? The Jiombie brothers. 350 00:15:43,733 --> 00:15:45,133 Speaker 3: One was a little better than the other. 351 00:15:45,133 --> 00:15:48,453 Speaker 1: That's right, the g there you go, Jason and what 352 00:15:48,613 --> 00:15:49,533 Speaker 1: was the other one's name? 353 00:15:49,733 --> 00:15:50,253 Speaker 2: Exactly? 354 00:15:50,293 --> 00:15:52,733 Speaker 3: I remember Jason that there was another one Jeremy j 355 00:15:52,933 --> 00:15:55,893 Speaker 3: Jerry was the other one's name. The best example for 356 00:15:55,973 --> 00:15:57,893 Speaker 3: this in pro sports. I'm gonna switch sports on you. 357 00:15:57,933 --> 00:16:04,053 Speaker 3: But Jannis's brother just I love the nepotism of Giannis's brother. 358 00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:07,373 Speaker 3: He got two brothers in the league. That's pretty impressive. 359 00:16:07,413 --> 00:16:10,733 Speaker 1: When you go listen, there are more onto Maakoumpo's coming 360 00:16:11,093 --> 00:16:14,613 Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to sign all of them, every 361 00:16:14,653 --> 00:16:15,253 Speaker 1: one of them. 362 00:16:15,813 --> 00:16:17,573 Speaker 2: That's when you know you're good. I'm just bringing my 363 00:16:17,613 --> 00:16:19,373 Speaker 2: whole family to the league. Trying to think. 364 00:16:19,373 --> 00:16:22,013 Speaker 1: All right, so baseball back to you got the Deans? 365 00:16:22,693 --> 00:16:25,933 Speaker 1: Did did Greg Maddox's brother Pitch? I think his name 366 00:16:26,013 --> 00:16:30,173 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, that might be right. Maybe 367 00:16:30,213 --> 00:16:34,573 Speaker 1: I just think everyone named Maddox is related to Greg. Basketball, you, 368 00:16:35,053 --> 00:16:37,173 Speaker 1: I'm not counting the Ontama Koupos. You had the two 369 00:16:37,293 --> 00:16:39,333 Speaker 1: Collins twins, right. 370 00:16:41,133 --> 00:16:42,013 Speaker 5: The Curry brothers. 371 00:16:42,293 --> 00:16:44,613 Speaker 2: I feel like basketball there's not as many. 372 00:16:44,533 --> 00:16:46,693 Speaker 5: The Curry's Steph Curry, Seth Curry. 373 00:16:46,813 --> 00:16:50,373 Speaker 3: Ah, yeah, that's another one. Seth Seth was good, but 374 00:16:50,373 --> 00:16:51,773 Speaker 3: he got a little bit of a step again. 375 00:16:51,853 --> 00:16:54,773 Speaker 1: Though in all these it feels like in football, what 376 00:16:54,853 --> 00:16:58,973 Speaker 1: your brother is, you kind of are too. You you 377 00:16:59,053 --> 00:17:02,773 Speaker 1: have like equal strength. But in these other sports, one 378 00:17:02,813 --> 00:17:06,613 Speaker 1: brother is clearly carrying the other and the others kind of. 379 00:17:06,693 --> 00:17:10,532 Speaker 4: Like, well, helloler brother. It feels like that doesn't happen 380 00:17:10,573 --> 00:17:13,253 Speaker 4: in the NFL. How about how about the Ball family. 381 00:17:13,493 --> 00:17:15,093 Speaker 4: One of them became a rapper, but two of them 382 00:17:15,093 --> 00:17:18,893 Speaker 4: made it, and I don't think any of them are 383 00:17:18,893 --> 00:17:20,333 Speaker 4: good enough that they count. 384 00:17:20,293 --> 00:17:22,453 Speaker 5: Jim and John Harball in the league. 385 00:17:23,533 --> 00:17:25,213 Speaker 2: Well, it's a good one. 386 00:17:25,413 --> 00:17:31,173 Speaker 1: Jim and John Harball, you know, and Robin Lopez, John 387 00:17:31,253 --> 00:17:32,853 Speaker 1: and Patrick McEnroe. 388 00:17:33,893 --> 00:17:38,053 Speaker 2: Here you go again, though the Lopezes are kind of equal. 389 00:17:38,213 --> 00:17:40,653 Speaker 2: That's that's well, No, Brooke was better than Robin. 390 00:17:40,933 --> 00:17:45,173 Speaker 1: I just am impressed in the NFL that the until 391 00:17:45,213 --> 00:17:49,292 Speaker 1: I get proof otherwise, brothers are equally good. So I 392 00:17:49,333 --> 00:17:52,133 Speaker 1: would say, if you watch, if you have an NFL 393 00:17:52,173 --> 00:17:54,613 Speaker 1: player and he's good and his brother comes in the draft, 394 00:17:55,133 --> 00:17:57,653 Speaker 1: if you like the one you have, Drew, go ahead 395 00:17:57,693 --> 00:17:59,612 Speaker 1: and pick the other one because they're going to be equal. 396 00:18:00,453 --> 00:18:00,653 Speaker 2: Yeah. 397 00:18:00,693 --> 00:18:02,333 Speaker 3: I mean, we can do a whole list of NBA 398 00:18:02,413 --> 00:18:04,493 Speaker 3: players where one is much better than the other. But 399 00:18:04,533 --> 00:18:07,133 Speaker 3: you think about the Kelsey's Hall of Fame, the Barbers 400 00:18:07,133 --> 00:18:09,013 Speaker 3: are about the same, mccordions are about the same. 401 00:18:10,013 --> 00:18:11,173 Speaker 2: I would actually consider this. 402 00:18:11,213 --> 00:18:12,973 Speaker 3: If I'm scouting a player, I want to look around 403 00:18:13,013 --> 00:18:14,613 Speaker 3: the family tree and maybe you had the brother too. 404 00:18:15,093 --> 00:18:18,973 Speaker 1: Yeah, so when Bill Mahomes enters the draft, I'm taking 405 00:18:19,053 --> 00:18:21,292 Speaker 1: him at some point there he did. 406 00:18:21,653 --> 00:18:23,053 Speaker 2: Wait, so that Mahomes has a brother. 407 00:18:23,093 --> 00:18:25,013 Speaker 3: Did you know when did nobody want to draft Pa 408 00:18:25,133 --> 00:18:28,013 Speaker 3: mahomes brother, the TikTok oh oh, the TikToker. 409 00:18:28,133 --> 00:18:28,373 Speaker 1: Yeah. 410 00:18:29,253 --> 00:18:31,613 Speaker 2: Well, now that in terms of talent, he is a 411 00:18:31,773 --> 00:18:33,933 Speaker 2: notch below his brother. 412 00:18:48,053 --> 00:18:50,173 Speaker 1: The Ravens beat we just said are going to play 413 00:18:50,213 --> 00:18:54,253 Speaker 1: the Steelers. The Ravens beat the Jets twenty three to ten. 414 00:18:54,333 --> 00:18:57,853 Speaker 1: They started very poorly, only seventy two first half yards, 415 00:18:57,893 --> 00:18:59,373 Speaker 1: but then came on the second half. 416 00:18:59,613 --> 00:19:00,733 Speaker 2: They played against. 417 00:19:00,373 --> 00:19:03,893 Speaker 1: Tyron Taylor, who I'm always overjoyed to be reminded as 418 00:19:03,933 --> 00:19:08,973 Speaker 1: in the league. Aigan's now five straight. They were odds 419 00:19:09,013 --> 00:19:11,333 Speaker 1: on favorites to win the NFC North when they were 420 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:14,333 Speaker 1: one and five, and now it looks like that ended 421 00:19:14,413 --> 00:19:15,493 Speaker 1: up being the right decision. 422 00:19:17,173 --> 00:19:19,093 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just needed to hang on when they were 423 00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:21,773 Speaker 3: so beating and bruised a few weeks ago. As long 424 00:19:21,813 --> 00:19:23,773 Speaker 3: as they can stay healthy. I mean, they still have 425 00:19:23,813 --> 00:19:26,053 Speaker 3: holes in their defense. And problems here and there, but 426 00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:28,093 Speaker 3: they can be a contender if they can just get 427 00:19:28,093 --> 00:19:29,213 Speaker 3: through the regular season healthy. 428 00:19:29,773 --> 00:19:34,613 Speaker 1: Yeah, Billy, I have nothing on this game because I 429 00:19:34,693 --> 00:19:37,333 Speaker 1: tried to stay away from it. You were always good 430 00:19:37,373 --> 00:19:39,973 Speaker 1: at having information. Do you have anything I should care 431 00:19:39,973 --> 00:19:41,612 Speaker 1: about about the Ravens and the Jets? 432 00:19:41,813 --> 00:19:45,253 Speaker 6: Well, Derek Henry scored a touchdown which helped our touchdown parlay, 433 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:46,013 Speaker 6: at least for Drew. 434 00:19:46,133 --> 00:19:48,292 Speaker 1: Now let's talk about you being the week league on 435 00:19:48,373 --> 00:19:52,573 Speaker 1: the touchdown parlay. Dereck Henry hits early, so that's good. 436 00:19:52,933 --> 00:19:57,292 Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigma hits early, so that's good. But 437 00:19:57,453 --> 00:20:01,053 Speaker 1: you had Josh Allen. We were out before we even started. Yeah, 438 00:20:01,053 --> 00:20:01,813 Speaker 1: that was a tough mess. 439 00:20:01,853 --> 00:20:03,853 Speaker 6: I was hoping he'd break the all time record, but 440 00:20:04,253 --> 00:20:06,613 Speaker 6: I'm glad Drew finally got a second one to catch 441 00:20:06,613 --> 00:20:06,933 Speaker 6: back up. 442 00:20:06,973 --> 00:20:10,733 Speaker 2: Now, so you two, I have five, you have four. Ye. 443 00:20:11,053 --> 00:20:13,013 Speaker 3: I don't want to pile on Billy, but Derek Henry 444 00:20:13,013 --> 00:20:14,853 Speaker 3: had two and in Jigba head two. 445 00:20:14,853 --> 00:20:16,493 Speaker 2: We didn't just get in the end zone. We got 446 00:20:16,493 --> 00:20:17,893 Speaker 2: in the end zone multiple timely. 447 00:20:17,933 --> 00:20:19,973 Speaker 5: You don't get double points for that, so you can 448 00:20:20,093 --> 00:20:20,773 Speaker 5: just enjoy that. 449 00:20:21,413 --> 00:20:21,933 Speaker 1: By the way, we. 450 00:20:21,933 --> 00:20:25,813 Speaker 2: Should note that loss by the Bills the Texans. 451 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:28,853 Speaker 1: One person on this show called it that was me 452 00:20:29,333 --> 00:20:32,613 Speaker 1: calling the six point underdog money line. 453 00:20:32,733 --> 00:20:34,332 Speaker 2: I was sweating it a little bit at the end. 454 00:20:34,373 --> 00:20:35,973 Speaker 2: But that's a big win for the Texans. 455 00:20:35,973 --> 00:20:38,293 Speaker 1: They had a big loss for the Bills, who, by 456 00:20:38,333 --> 00:20:41,493 Speaker 1: the way, at this point, are you know, could easily 457 00:20:41,533 --> 00:20:45,013 Speaker 1: lose the wildcard as well. They're fighting with the Ravens, 458 00:20:45,013 --> 00:20:47,853 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, and three other teams for those wildcard spots. 459 00:20:48,253 --> 00:20:50,093 Speaker 2: I gotta admit I think it's me. All of my 460 00:20:50,133 --> 00:20:51,613 Speaker 2: football teams are so bad. 461 00:20:52,173 --> 00:20:53,933 Speaker 3: I commit to the Bills and buy a hat and 462 00:20:53,933 --> 00:20:55,893 Speaker 3: they lose to the Texans four days later. 463 00:20:56,213 --> 00:20:57,133 Speaker 2: I think that one's on me. 464 00:20:57,373 --> 00:21:02,093 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Bill's Mafia every I mean, Kentucky Titans, Bill, 465 00:21:02,173 --> 00:21:04,453 Speaker 3: you name it. I can't have fun with football. So 466 00:21:04,493 --> 00:21:06,572 Speaker 3: I felt partially responsible for that there night. But that 467 00:21:06,613 --> 00:21:07,973 Speaker 3: was a good call by you. And shout out to 468 00:21:08,053 --> 00:21:11,052 Speaker 3: her boy Ray Davis. The reverse KSR curse on that 469 00:21:11,093 --> 00:21:12,293 Speaker 3: show's going to touch true. 470 00:21:12,893 --> 00:21:15,133 Speaker 1: So can we decide, since we talked about Kentucky, can 471 00:21:15,173 --> 00:21:19,613 Speaker 1: we just have just a second about Diego Pavi's mom 472 00:21:20,493 --> 00:21:24,773 Speaker 1: during the game the other day? Like, I mean, if 473 00:21:24,773 --> 00:21:27,133 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it like if you're not if you're 474 00:21:27,173 --> 00:21:31,332 Speaker 1: an NFL fan and you haven't seen the College Diego 475 00:21:31,373 --> 00:21:32,213 Speaker 1: Pobby's mom. 476 00:21:32,453 --> 00:21:33,933 Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, they showed her a lot. 477 00:21:34,173 --> 00:21:36,213 Speaker 2: That's that's a different conversation. 478 00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:41,133 Speaker 1: But in the second half, she seemed to be straddling 479 00:21:41,653 --> 00:21:46,813 Speaker 1: a poll during the game, and they put her on camera, 480 00:21:47,613 --> 00:21:51,333 Speaker 1: and I just I just was thinking about my mother 481 00:21:53,653 --> 00:21:58,013 Speaker 1: and the unlikelyness that that would happen with my mom 482 00:21:58,613 --> 00:22:00,413 Speaker 1: versus Diego Bobby's mom. 483 00:22:00,453 --> 00:22:02,493 Speaker 2: What did what did you make of that? Well? 484 00:22:02,493 --> 00:22:04,292 Speaker 3: What I have to correct you. It didn't seem she 485 00:22:04,333 --> 00:22:07,213 Speaker 3: was straddling a poll. She was straddling poll by definition. 486 00:22:08,093 --> 00:22:10,213 Speaker 3: I actually had a thought, thank god this game in 487 00:22:10,293 --> 00:22:12,453 Speaker 3: close because if it goes to overtime enough to switch 488 00:22:12,493 --> 00:22:13,133 Speaker 3: her to HBO. 489 00:22:13,293 --> 00:22:14,813 Speaker 2: Because every time they. 490 00:22:14,813 --> 00:22:18,292 Speaker 3: Showed her it was getting more and more provocative, Like 491 00:22:18,373 --> 00:22:20,333 Speaker 3: at first she's just waving. 492 00:22:20,813 --> 00:22:22,613 Speaker 2: And then she's hiking a leg up and then she 493 00:22:22,813 --> 00:22:26,213 Speaker 2: was on that railing. It was audit like, and he 494 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:28,373 Speaker 2: was on it. I noticed this. 495 00:22:28,493 --> 00:22:30,532 Speaker 3: I think a call came in because after she was 496 00:22:30,573 --> 00:22:32,933 Speaker 3: on the rail, they didn't show her again. Even when 497 00:22:32,973 --> 00:22:35,612 Speaker 3: they honored him brought him off for his ovation and 498 00:22:35,653 --> 00:22:36,613 Speaker 3: he had broken the record. 499 00:22:36,613 --> 00:22:38,093 Speaker 2: They didn't show her again after the poll. 500 00:22:38,173 --> 00:22:40,933 Speaker 3: I think someone phoned in was like, hey, we're done 501 00:22:40,933 --> 00:22:42,773 Speaker 3: on Mama Pavia for the day. 502 00:22:42,933 --> 00:22:44,133 Speaker 2: Well, there was a security guard. 503 00:22:44,133 --> 00:22:46,812 Speaker 1: If you go watch the video, there's a security guard 504 00:22:47,013 --> 00:22:50,612 Speaker 1: standing behind her who has a look on his face 505 00:22:50,733 --> 00:22:54,293 Speaker 1: that I need everybody to go see. It's like he 506 00:22:54,693 --> 00:22:57,693 Speaker 1: thinks he got the best assignment at the game. Like 507 00:22:57,773 --> 00:23:00,413 Speaker 1: he is, he is very very happy. But that is 508 00:23:00,453 --> 00:23:03,013 Speaker 1: a good point. They did not show her again. I 509 00:23:03,213 --> 00:23:07,332 Speaker 1: am shocked that video has not gotten more like that 510 00:23:07,573 --> 00:23:10,493 Speaker 1: is one of the I guess it was just because 511 00:23:10,533 --> 00:23:12,693 Speaker 1: the game was forty five ten and people weren't watching it. 512 00:23:12,773 --> 00:23:14,533 Speaker 2: But diego Pobby's mom. 513 00:23:14,613 --> 00:23:19,053 Speaker 1: If he were an NFL prospect, that would be an 514 00:23:19,093 --> 00:23:21,813 Speaker 1: interesting part of his draft highlight package. I just think 515 00:23:21,853 --> 00:23:24,812 Speaker 1: that's I just think that's worth noting. Salute to mom. 516 00:23:25,213 --> 00:23:27,973 Speaker 1: That outfit too, not something I could see my mom 517 00:23:28,053 --> 00:23:33,333 Speaker 1: wearing knee high boots with short shorts and a jersey. 518 00:23:34,133 --> 00:23:36,693 Speaker 2: I don't think my mom would ever wear that in public. 519 00:23:36,973 --> 00:23:38,933 Speaker 3: And you know, the whole deal of on thing he 520 00:23:38,973 --> 00:23:42,013 Speaker 3: walked with her out for his say. 521 00:23:43,333 --> 00:23:44,213 Speaker 2: What is happening now? 522 00:23:44,253 --> 00:23:46,173 Speaker 1: Like it started as a joke and now I think 523 00:23:46,213 --> 00:23:48,493 Speaker 1: he actually is part of the family. 524 00:23:49,653 --> 00:23:52,453 Speaker 3: Like you get framed Jersey in the photo. 525 00:23:52,533 --> 00:23:55,493 Speaker 2: He's going to be in that family photo forever. Yeah, 526 00:23:55,693 --> 00:23:56,933 Speaker 2: I mean that would be like, can. 527 00:23:56,773 --> 00:24:00,093 Speaker 1: You imagine if it was my senior day and I 528 00:24:00,213 --> 00:24:03,653 Speaker 1: just walked out with Dana Carvey. 529 00:24:04,493 --> 00:24:08,733 Speaker 2: And your mom with her high boots, my mom. 530 00:24:08,413 --> 00:24:11,653 Speaker 1: Larry and Dana Carvey, and like I would have that 531 00:24:11,813 --> 00:24:14,693 Speaker 1: later in my life. People go, why is Dana Carvey 532 00:24:14,813 --> 00:24:15,853 Speaker 1: at your senior day? 533 00:24:15,893 --> 00:24:16,933 Speaker 2: And I go, I don't know. 534 00:24:17,693 --> 00:24:20,133 Speaker 3: Bobby's brother wore a tuxedo. I mean they were just 535 00:24:20,853 --> 00:24:24,893 Speaker 3: I mean, did the family not coordinate their outfits? Tuxedo? 536 00:24:25,653 --> 00:24:27,053 Speaker 2: I said me, I think. 537 00:24:26,973 --> 00:24:31,013 Speaker 1: They were thigh You don't see those a lot, certainly not. 538 00:24:31,773 --> 00:24:35,213 Speaker 2: I mean, she's my age. I'm gonna start wearing though, 539 00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:37,053 Speaker 2: for Billy's wedding, all right. 540 00:24:37,413 --> 00:24:43,653 Speaker 1: Patriots Bengals twenty six twenty Joe. The Bengals, you could argue, 541 00:24:43,693 --> 00:24:48,853 Speaker 1: outplayed the Patriots. Flacco with two interceptions, one of which 542 00:24:48,933 --> 00:24:51,613 Speaker 1: was brutal or they were about to score fourteen point swing. 543 00:24:52,933 --> 00:24:53,613 Speaker 2: Let me ask you. 544 00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:57,653 Speaker 1: Flaco after the game seemed to be talking like his 545 00:24:57,773 --> 00:25:00,773 Speaker 1: Bengals time and maybe even his career was over. He 546 00:25:00,853 --> 00:25:02,653 Speaker 1: was talking about how grateful he was to have gotten 547 00:25:02,693 --> 00:25:05,532 Speaker 1: to do this. Would you bring Burrow back? 548 00:25:09,533 --> 00:25:12,453 Speaker 2: Probably? I know they don't have a lot lot. I know, 549 00:25:12,813 --> 00:25:13,533 Speaker 2: I know the risk. 550 00:25:15,053 --> 00:25:17,973 Speaker 1: If they were today, if they'd want today, I think 551 00:25:17,973 --> 00:25:19,812 Speaker 1: there would be an argument because they'd be four and 552 00:25:19,893 --> 00:25:22,093 Speaker 1: seven and you could say, well, if you went out, 553 00:25:22,533 --> 00:25:24,533 Speaker 1: But like, why why now? 554 00:25:25,493 --> 00:25:27,893 Speaker 3: I guess, I mean you don't want to risk him. 555 00:25:27,933 --> 00:25:29,573 Speaker 3: I know that, But I guess to throw the fans 556 00:25:29,573 --> 00:25:31,693 Speaker 3: a bone. They're so upset with you, Like, all right, fine, 557 00:25:31,693 --> 00:25:33,373 Speaker 3: here he is, let's go have some fun. 558 00:25:33,853 --> 00:25:35,773 Speaker 2: That's the only reason. I'm just to get him back 559 00:25:35,773 --> 00:25:36,173 Speaker 2: out there. 560 00:25:36,813 --> 00:25:39,973 Speaker 3: But but but by the way, some breaking news. 561 00:25:40,013 --> 00:25:42,933 Speaker 2: The Raiders have fired Chip Kelly is offensive coordinator. 562 00:25:44,413 --> 00:25:46,693 Speaker 1: I didn't know he wasn't their offensive coordinator, so it'll 563 00:25:46,733 --> 00:25:48,693 Speaker 1: be I'm not really sad to see him go, but 564 00:25:48,813 --> 00:25:49,693 Speaker 1: good luck to him. 565 00:25:50,013 --> 00:25:53,173 Speaker 2: Added to our list of brothers both getting fired, the 566 00:25:53,253 --> 00:25:57,453 Speaker 2: Kelly boys getting fired. Oh, I don't think I ever 567 00:25:57,493 --> 00:26:01,253 Speaker 2: realized Chip and Brian were brothers. Aren't they brothers? Is 568 00:26:01,813 --> 00:26:03,853 Speaker 2: to make that up? I think you just made that up. 569 00:26:03,933 --> 00:26:06,773 Speaker 3: I always thought they were brothers or related somehow. I mean, 570 00:26:06,773 --> 00:26:08,653 Speaker 3: I don't think Jim Kelly is their brother too. 571 00:26:09,493 --> 00:26:10,253 Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? 572 00:26:12,293 --> 00:26:15,893 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm thinking of r Kelly and Brian Kelly. 573 00:26:15,693 --> 00:26:19,213 Speaker 3: You're thinking of Kelly Kelly from the WWE. I've always 574 00:26:19,213 --> 00:26:22,093 Speaker 3: assumed Brian and Hipp were related in something related. 575 00:26:22,453 --> 00:26:28,173 Speaker 2: They're not just look alike yourself, they even look alike. 576 00:26:29,573 --> 00:26:32,532 Speaker 3: I've honestly lived my whole life assuming they're related in something. 577 00:26:32,613 --> 00:26:35,052 Speaker 2: Well, I like, I'm glad we got to correct that 578 00:26:35,173 --> 00:26:38,813 Speaker 2: for you. You really believe that not Jim either there are 579 00:26:39,333 --> 00:26:42,333 Speaker 2: Jim or r Or or Bryn. Uh. 580 00:26:42,333 --> 00:26:44,573 Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of injuries in this game. 581 00:26:44,733 --> 00:26:47,093 Speaker 1: Bengals had three players hurting three plays. 582 00:26:47,533 --> 00:26:47,693 Speaker 2: Uh. 583 00:26:47,693 --> 00:26:50,653 Speaker 1: Their season has been a complete disaster. I mean everything 584 00:26:50,693 --> 00:26:53,173 Speaker 1: that could have gone wrong has gone wrong. They lost 585 00:26:53,213 --> 00:26:55,173 Speaker 1: a lot. You know, by the end of the game, 586 00:26:55,853 --> 00:26:59,093 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had been suspended, t Higgins gets a concussion. 587 00:26:59,133 --> 00:27:01,493 Speaker 1: They were just random guys playing wide receiver. They still 588 00:27:01,493 --> 00:27:03,133 Speaker 1: had a shot. I mean they still had a shot. 589 00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:05,253 Speaker 1: At the end of the wind Drake May was awful. 590 00:27:05,573 --> 00:27:07,693 Speaker 1: I'm sure it was weird. He was awful against like 591 00:27:07,693 --> 00:27:09,293 Speaker 1: the worst defense in the league. 592 00:27:10,053 --> 00:27:10,253 Speaker 2: Yeah. 593 00:27:10,413 --> 00:27:12,773 Speaker 3: Now, it would have helped if Jamar Chase had been 594 00:27:12,773 --> 00:27:14,493 Speaker 3: spinning on people last week and could have helped out 595 00:27:14,533 --> 00:27:16,173 Speaker 3: in this game a little bit. Seeing your high paid 596 00:27:16,173 --> 00:27:19,093 Speaker 3: receiver over there serving suspension didn't help matters. 597 00:27:19,493 --> 00:27:21,573 Speaker 1: They're their day for the Patriots, by the way, because 598 00:27:21,573 --> 00:27:24,292 Speaker 1: they also lose two offensive linemen, including Will Campbell, and 599 00:27:24,333 --> 00:27:26,653 Speaker 1: Campbell's at least looked like he won't be back this year. 600 00:27:26,893 --> 00:27:28,693 Speaker 3: Yeah, that looked bad, and he's been great this year 601 00:27:28,693 --> 00:27:33,093 Speaker 3: in his rookie season. This game also had those pick sixes, 602 00:27:33,213 --> 00:27:35,333 Speaker 3: not really back to back, but both very very early 603 00:27:35,373 --> 00:27:37,173 Speaker 3: each team. So it's kind of a wild game to start. 604 00:27:37,933 --> 00:27:40,253 Speaker 3: McPherson had a set of record for a sixty three 605 00:27:40,333 --> 00:27:41,613 Speaker 3: yard field goal, but didn't. 606 00:27:41,413 --> 00:27:42,133 Speaker 2: Even the idea. 607 00:27:42,293 --> 00:27:45,853 Speaker 1: Tried continuing, my team up. We've got to do something 608 00:27:45,853 --> 00:27:48,573 Speaker 1: about these balls they get. Guys should not be able 609 00:27:48,573 --> 00:27:50,773 Speaker 1: to kick a sixty three yard or and he doesn't 610 00:27:50,773 --> 00:27:52,253 Speaker 1: even look like he's given effort. 611 00:27:54,013 --> 00:27:56,173 Speaker 3: Oh not at all. But I mean that Bengals fans 612 00:27:56,213 --> 00:27:58,292 Speaker 3: have that to brag about. If they're gonna let it 613 00:27:58,333 --> 00:28:00,973 Speaker 3: he almost in a sixty seven yard earlier this season. 614 00:28:00,973 --> 00:28:02,853 Speaker 1: If they're gonna let it be where they can get 615 00:28:02,893 --> 00:28:04,372 Speaker 1: so far, did it needs to be like that? One 616 00:28:04,453 --> 00:28:07,332 Speaker 1: year in the World Cup where balls like all just 617 00:28:07,413 --> 00:28:08,573 Speaker 1: would go crazy. 618 00:28:08,613 --> 00:28:09,973 Speaker 2: They'd like move left and right. 619 00:28:10,093 --> 00:28:12,053 Speaker 1: I don't remember why it was, but it was made 620 00:28:12,053 --> 00:28:14,893 Speaker 1: out of like Polly, You're a thing or something, and 621 00:28:14,933 --> 00:28:17,013 Speaker 1: the balls like no one could figure out where they 622 00:28:17,013 --> 00:28:18,973 Speaker 1: were going, and they complained, but it actually made it 623 00:28:19,013 --> 00:28:22,613 Speaker 1: really entertaining because sometimes they would be able to bend it. 624 00:28:23,093 --> 00:28:24,493 Speaker 1: I think we've got to make it to where these 625 00:28:24,493 --> 00:28:26,973 Speaker 1: footballs have like super putty or something in them. 626 00:28:26,853 --> 00:28:31,133 Speaker 3: Because they're not. The kicks are too easy. I'm just 627 00:28:31,173 --> 00:28:33,493 Speaker 3: ready to accept it. Let's just start kicking eighty yarders. 628 00:28:35,013 --> 00:28:36,853 Speaker 3: I don't see that's on the other side of the fifty. 629 00:28:37,733 --> 00:28:39,733 Speaker 3: I don't think that's what the game is supposed to be. 630 00:28:39,853 --> 00:28:42,093 Speaker 1: But you know, and at the same time, though, in 631 00:28:42,493 --> 00:28:44,173 Speaker 1: this era where you can kick them for so far, 632 00:28:44,453 --> 00:28:46,773 Speaker 1: when they get up close, they refuse to kick them 633 00:28:46,813 --> 00:28:49,373 Speaker 1: like no one kicks ever, no matter what. 634 00:28:50,053 --> 00:28:50,733 Speaker 2: Including like it. 635 00:28:50,853 --> 00:28:53,053 Speaker 1: We'll talk about in the Cowboys game when a kick 636 00:28:53,093 --> 00:28:56,413 Speaker 1: wins and they just don't. That's it's It's weird how 637 00:28:56,493 --> 00:28:59,893 Speaker 1: that's worked. Seahawks beat the Titans. You said you didn't 638 00:28:59,893 --> 00:29:01,693 Speaker 1: even watch it as a Titans fac. 639 00:29:02,493 --> 00:29:05,893 Speaker 3: So ever since I've been able to get Sunday Ticket, 640 00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:07,413 Speaker 3: which it's been a while since they've had it on 641 00:29:07,453 --> 00:29:10,893 Speaker 3: YouTube TV. I have watched every Titans game, even when 642 00:29:10,933 --> 00:29:13,453 Speaker 3: they stink. I'll put Red Zone on another TV, but 643 00:29:13,493 --> 00:29:15,653 Speaker 3: I will make sure about Titans are in front of 644 00:29:15,693 --> 00:29:18,733 Speaker 3: me in some form. Today I didn't bother. I can't 645 00:29:18,733 --> 00:29:20,773 Speaker 3: remember the last time I've done that. Didn't even see 646 00:29:20,773 --> 00:29:22,413 Speaker 3: a minute of it. I mean I kept up with it, 647 00:29:22,453 --> 00:29:24,093 Speaker 3: and when Red Zone would go to it, I'd see it. 648 00:29:24,373 --> 00:29:26,893 Speaker 3: But as far as me watching my own team with 649 00:29:27,013 --> 00:29:29,053 Speaker 3: a service I paid my heart earned money for, I 650 00:29:29,093 --> 00:29:30,693 Speaker 3: didn't even bother to go to the channel. 651 00:29:31,173 --> 00:29:33,133 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you saw it. It's actually one of their 652 00:29:33,173 --> 00:29:37,133 Speaker 1: better games. They ran up, they had a chance. I 653 00:29:37,133 --> 00:29:39,053 Speaker 1: mean they had a shot at the end. They did 654 00:29:39,133 --> 00:29:41,853 Speaker 1: cover the story I think is your guy, Jackson Smith 655 00:29:41,853 --> 00:29:45,973 Speaker 1: and Jigba. He has now broken the Seahawks single season 656 00:29:46,053 --> 00:29:49,373 Speaker 1: record for receiving yards and we still have six games left. 657 00:29:49,573 --> 00:29:52,893 Speaker 1: I mean include Steve Largin, who I think I told 658 00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:55,653 Speaker 1: you one of my good friends in law school, just 659 00:29:55,693 --> 00:29:58,693 Speaker 1: as a kid decided he loves Steve large so he 660 00:29:59,853 --> 00:30:03,653 Speaker 1: wore Steve Largent gear to Duke law school all the time. 661 00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:06,813 Speaker 1: He would wear Steve largent Jersey the class like once 662 00:30:06,853 --> 00:30:10,893 Speaker 1: a week, and I go, who loves. 663 00:30:10,653 --> 00:30:12,893 Speaker 2: Steve Large at this mode much? So I always think 664 00:30:12,933 --> 00:30:13,253 Speaker 2: of him. 665 00:30:13,493 --> 00:30:16,413 Speaker 1: That record's already broken and he is on pace to 666 00:30:16,493 --> 00:30:18,973 Speaker 1: do two thousand yards, which has never happened. 667 00:30:19,813 --> 00:30:20,773 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was insane. 668 00:30:20,773 --> 00:30:22,613 Speaker 3: I knew he'd have a good game playing the Titans, 669 00:30:22,613 --> 00:30:24,093 Speaker 3: but I mean he does this every week. It's just 670 00:30:24,133 --> 00:30:26,093 Speaker 3: not my Titan, not just against my Titans. He had 671 00:30:26,093 --> 00:30:29,253 Speaker 3: like one to seventy five today at two touchdowns. I 672 00:30:29,293 --> 00:30:31,013 Speaker 3: haven't been hard on my Titans saying we don't have 673 00:30:31,013 --> 00:30:34,853 Speaker 3: any pieces. The rookie who ran the punback Chimberray DK, 674 00:30:35,013 --> 00:30:38,413 Speaker 3: He's been pretty awesome this year and cam Ward's kind 675 00:30:38,413 --> 00:30:41,013 Speaker 3: of gone to him as a reliable target all season. 676 00:30:41,333 --> 00:30:43,333 Speaker 3: So I've been hating on my team all year. But 677 00:30:43,413 --> 00:30:45,413 Speaker 3: DK's pubbar turn was pretty exciting today. 678 00:30:46,093 --> 00:30:50,613 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Seahawks are what are they? Eight and three? 679 00:30:50,693 --> 00:30:54,013 Speaker 2: I think, and playing really well. 680 00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:56,493 Speaker 1: And if you look at their eight I mentioned this 681 00:30:56,573 --> 00:30:59,853 Speaker 1: stat on my ESPN show today, if you look at 682 00:30:59,893 --> 00:31:04,173 Speaker 1: their three losses thereby combined eight points, So I mean, 683 00:31:04,573 --> 00:31:06,333 Speaker 1: and all three to teams that are going to make 684 00:31:06,333 --> 00:31:10,053 Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I think the Seahawks are better than 685 00:31:10,133 --> 00:31:14,013 Speaker 1: people realize when you when you have three losses, I 686 00:31:14,013 --> 00:31:15,813 Speaker 1: think they're to the Rams, the forty nine ers in 687 00:31:15,853 --> 00:31:16,293 Speaker 1: the Bucks. 688 00:31:16,653 --> 00:31:19,853 Speaker 2: So it's, uh, that's a really good team. 689 00:31:19,933 --> 00:31:22,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, very good to all by like a total of 690 00:31:22,173 --> 00:31:23,453 Speaker 3: eight points in those losses. 691 00:31:25,173 --> 00:31:28,093 Speaker 2: I know I just said that. Listen to you. 692 00:31:29,213 --> 00:31:31,133 Speaker 1: I think he tuned me out there, Billy. That's all right, 693 00:31:31,173 --> 00:31:32,813 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a long podcast. 694 00:31:32,853 --> 00:31:33,773 Speaker 5: I also survived. 695 00:31:34,213 --> 00:31:36,973 Speaker 3: I'm still I'm still accepting that the Kelly brothers are 696 00:31:37,013 --> 00:31:37,653 Speaker 3: not brothers. 697 00:31:38,053 --> 00:31:40,413 Speaker 2: I've lived my whole life thinking that they were related 698 00:31:40,453 --> 00:31:42,173 Speaker 2: in some form. Yeah. 699 00:31:42,173 --> 00:31:44,173 Speaker 1: Well, I mean when you find things, when you find 700 00:31:44,173 --> 00:31:46,773 Speaker 1: out things that hurt your hurt yourself little it'll will 701 00:31:46,813 --> 00:31:49,173 Speaker 1: you listen to cover zero? You can less exactly right now? 702 00:31:49,213 --> 00:32:05,013 Speaker 1: We know now you know they're not related. The Packers 703 00:32:05,573 --> 00:32:07,213 Speaker 1: beat the Bike he three six. 704 00:32:07,773 --> 00:32:08,493 Speaker 2: Uh the game. 705 00:32:09,293 --> 00:32:13,293 Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy was awful. That's there are two things I 706 00:32:13,333 --> 00:32:17,293 Speaker 1: care about this game, only two. One is that Billy 707 00:32:17,373 --> 00:32:20,733 Speaker 1: told me that JJ McCarthy has an alter ego. 708 00:32:20,973 --> 00:32:23,533 Speaker 2: I did not know this until today. What is his 709 00:32:23,613 --> 00:32:24,253 Speaker 2: alter ego? 710 00:32:24,413 --> 00:32:27,933 Speaker 6: It's called nine, and he sees me it's a flip 711 00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:30,653 Speaker 6: or a switch that he flips before the game starts 712 00:32:30,693 --> 00:32:33,613 Speaker 6: to keep his intense competitive stamina up. 713 00:32:34,813 --> 00:32:36,333 Speaker 2: Is this widely known. Yes. 714 00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:38,373 Speaker 6: He spoke to the media a couple of weeks ago 715 00:32:38,533 --> 00:32:40,493 Speaker 6: and told them about his alter ego nine. 716 00:32:40,533 --> 00:32:42,933 Speaker 1: I'm in the media. He didn't tell me. He uh, 717 00:32:43,573 --> 00:32:47,333 Speaker 1: we are right here. This is If he didn't tell us, 718 00:32:47,373 --> 00:32:49,493 Speaker 1: it's not true. So he calls himself. 719 00:32:49,173 --> 00:32:50,853 Speaker 5: Nine, yes, and McCarthy. 720 00:32:51,013 --> 00:32:52,933 Speaker 2: Where does that come from that? 721 00:32:53,053 --> 00:32:55,573 Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm not sure the origin of why 722 00:32:55,613 --> 00:32:56,813 Speaker 5: it's called nine? 723 00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:59,173 Speaker 2: Well, he is number nine? Is he just called himself 724 00:32:59,173 --> 00:33:05,893 Speaker 2: by his number? He's right. That's an interesting that's interesting. 725 00:33:05,933 --> 00:33:08,773 Speaker 1: So he just says, like when I when it's time 726 00:33:08,773 --> 00:33:10,533 Speaker 1: to play, I'm not JJ anymore. 727 00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:10,973 Speaker 2: I'm not. 728 00:33:11,173 --> 00:33:12,853 Speaker 6: He talks about the war paint that he puts on 729 00:33:12,893 --> 00:33:14,053 Speaker 6: his face to get himself. 730 00:33:14,853 --> 00:33:17,133 Speaker 2: Hate it. Hate it. First of all, he's a dork. 731 00:33:17,253 --> 00:33:18,413 Speaker 2: I can tell. Don't you know. 732 00:33:18,533 --> 00:33:21,133 Speaker 1: I don't know anything about him. I can see him. 733 00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:24,173 Speaker 1: He gets his haircut at Great Clips. He went to Michigan. 734 00:33:24,253 --> 00:33:27,333 Speaker 1: It's fine, but like, you're not. Don't put on war paint. 735 00:33:27,493 --> 00:33:29,733 Speaker 1: That would be like me putting on war paint. It's 736 00:33:29,773 --> 00:33:31,693 Speaker 1: not that's not your personality. 737 00:33:32,893 --> 00:33:35,253 Speaker 3: He has three straight games with two interceptions, and Billy 738 00:33:35,293 --> 00:33:38,733 Speaker 3: called him trash at the beginning of this take your 739 00:33:38,853 --> 00:33:40,093 Speaker 3: victory lab Billy. 740 00:33:39,853 --> 00:33:41,853 Speaker 2: You did you did call that a couple weeks ago. 741 00:33:42,093 --> 00:33:46,013 Speaker 6: Well, McCarthy has nine interceptions through six games, So if 742 00:33:46,013 --> 00:33:48,533 Speaker 6: that's his alter ego, then he's he's on pace. 743 00:33:49,253 --> 00:33:51,933 Speaker 1: He needs to switch it to six to so that 744 00:33:51,973 --> 00:33:54,253 Speaker 1: he can quit the script a little bit, all right. 745 00:33:54,533 --> 00:33:57,733 Speaker 1: Second thing is before the game the Minnesota Vikings tweeted 746 00:33:57,773 --> 00:34:02,213 Speaker 1: out from their account today is a continuation of the 747 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:08,613 Speaker 1: fiercest rivalry in the NFL, same Vikings, and it kind 748 00:34:08,652 --> 00:34:11,212 Speaker 1: of offends me. I'm kind of mad at the Vikings 749 00:34:11,252 --> 00:34:13,973 Speaker 1: for saying it. First of all, notice the Packers didn't 750 00:34:13,973 --> 00:34:17,893 Speaker 1: say it. The Vikings said it. I don't think that's 751 00:34:18,013 --> 00:34:21,332 Speaker 1: anywhere close to true. I wouldn't even First of all, 752 00:34:21,332 --> 00:34:23,852 Speaker 1: it's not the Packers' biggest rivals. I think even they 753 00:34:23,852 --> 00:34:27,492 Speaker 1: would say it's the Bears, and I would argue they're 754 00:34:27,533 --> 00:34:30,012 Speaker 1: not even in the top ten. I mean, just off 755 00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:34,732 Speaker 1: the top of my head, I would say Cowboys, Eagles, 756 00:34:35,493 --> 00:34:41,852 Speaker 1: Cowboys Commanders ahead of them. I would say Ravens Steelers. 757 00:34:41,893 --> 00:34:44,893 Speaker 1: To me, when I think of modern rivalries, honestly, Raven 758 00:34:44,933 --> 00:34:48,732 Speaker 1: Steelers is maybe at the top in terms of the 759 00:34:48,772 --> 00:34:53,772 Speaker 1: game's being good. You know, what else would you put 760 00:34:53,772 --> 00:34:54,172 Speaker 1: in there. 761 00:34:56,893 --> 00:34:58,652 Speaker 2: There's some that have kind of worn off, but I 762 00:34:58,692 --> 00:35:02,252 Speaker 2: mean colch Patriots was hot for a while. They was Patrian'bills. 763 00:35:02,292 --> 00:35:05,492 Speaker 3: I feel like is a rivalry you could go back 764 00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:08,333 Speaker 3: to Cowboys forty nine Ers. At no point does Bears 765 00:35:08,413 --> 00:35:12,452 Speaker 3: Vikings in my brain like if the Pirates Vikings, Packers Bike, 766 00:35:12,893 --> 00:35:15,172 Speaker 3: if the other team doesn't know they're in a rivalry, 767 00:35:15,252 --> 00:35:16,133 Speaker 3: you're not allowed to play your. 768 00:35:16,133 --> 00:35:19,973 Speaker 1: Rivalry because even like Bengals Browns is bigger, they're in 769 00:35:20,053 --> 00:35:25,133 Speaker 1: the same state. I mean, I would the Packers, I 770 00:35:25,172 --> 00:35:28,852 Speaker 1: would think would put both the Bears and the Lions 771 00:35:29,252 --> 00:35:32,932 Speaker 1: ahead of the Vikings because they're closer. So I think 772 00:35:32,973 --> 00:35:36,172 Speaker 1: it's kind of a desperate and sad tweet, and I 773 00:35:36,212 --> 00:35:39,492 Speaker 1: think the Vikings ought to apologize to everyone for it. 774 00:35:40,292 --> 00:35:43,092 Speaker 3: And really, if you had just asked me on the street, hey, 775 00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:45,252 Speaker 3: what's one of the best rivalries in the NFL, I 776 00:35:45,372 --> 00:35:48,652 Speaker 3: might have said Packers Bears. That's like the longest standing. 777 00:35:49,332 --> 00:35:51,852 Speaker 3: It's probably number one. It's probably number one. 778 00:35:51,852 --> 00:35:54,453 Speaker 1: I mean, the Packers have dominated in the last decade, 779 00:35:54,732 --> 00:35:57,133 Speaker 1: but it's probably number one. I mean, just the other 780 00:35:57,292 --> 00:36:01,892 Speaker 1: someone go Broncos Chiefs. Broncos Raiders was a big one for. 781 00:36:01,852 --> 00:36:02,772 Speaker 2: A long time. 782 00:36:04,252 --> 00:36:06,533 Speaker 3: I used to go to Chiefs Raiders at I've been 783 00:36:06,573 --> 00:36:08,412 Speaker 3: to it twice, and that used to be Nests. 784 00:36:08,852 --> 00:36:12,013 Speaker 1: I mean forty nine Ers Rams is another one that 785 00:36:12,053 --> 00:36:16,212 Speaker 1: I I just think when I think historically, I would 786 00:36:16,212 --> 00:36:18,053 Speaker 1: say Bears, Packers, and then when I think in the 787 00:36:18,093 --> 00:36:21,133 Speaker 1: last twenty years, I would probably say Steelers Ravens in 788 00:36:21,252 --> 00:36:24,492 Speaker 1: terms of but I would never say Packers Vikings and 789 00:36:24,573 --> 00:36:25,212 Speaker 1: it offends me. 790 00:36:25,292 --> 00:36:26,212 Speaker 2: Billing I'm angry. 791 00:36:26,692 --> 00:36:27,372 Speaker 5: I don't blame you. 792 00:36:27,533 --> 00:36:29,813 Speaker 6: I mean Cowboys, forty nine Ers had some good ones 793 00:36:29,852 --> 00:36:30,532 Speaker 6: back in the day. 794 00:36:31,172 --> 00:36:33,413 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just said that. You thank you for listening 795 00:36:33,453 --> 00:36:41,613 Speaker 1: as well. Lions, it's twice, both of you minds another twice. 796 00:36:41,772 --> 00:36:45,933 Speaker 2: It's okay. They got other things going on. Lions and Giants. 797 00:36:46,852 --> 00:36:51,732 Speaker 1: Lions win thirty four twenty seven in overtime. Even though 798 00:36:51,812 --> 00:36:54,172 Speaker 1: the Lions won, I feel like the Giants were the story. 799 00:36:54,292 --> 00:36:57,452 Speaker 1: Specifically Jamis. He had such a great Jamis game. He 800 00:36:57,533 --> 00:37:00,772 Speaker 1: had a touchdown catch where he broke a tackle. He 801 00:37:00,933 --> 00:37:04,052 Speaker 1: had a moon ball that's the highest pass I've ever 802 00:37:04,093 --> 00:37:07,292 Speaker 1: seen thrown in my life and somehow was completed. It 803 00:37:07,372 --> 00:37:09,573 Speaker 1: was only a thirty yard pass, but he threw it 804 00:37:09,772 --> 00:37:12,093 Speaker 1: thirty yards in the air as well. 805 00:37:13,053 --> 00:37:15,292 Speaker 3: I love the Jamis experience, even though it ended up 806 00:37:15,292 --> 00:37:18,813 Speaker 3: in a loss. I had so much fun watching Jamis today. 807 00:37:18,893 --> 00:37:21,013 Speaker 3: And it just makes me mad that Russell Wilson was 808 00:37:21,053 --> 00:37:24,013 Speaker 3: over the quarterback. All right, sure, Jackson darc your future. 809 00:37:24,013 --> 00:37:25,772 Speaker 3: He's been good. He's hurt now. It should have been 810 00:37:25,852 --> 00:37:27,932 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart and Jameis Winston. And that's it. 811 00:37:28,372 --> 00:37:29,052 Speaker 2: Jamis. 812 00:37:29,613 --> 00:37:33,172 Speaker 3: That the touchdown reception he had, he catches in the 813 00:37:33,212 --> 00:37:35,812 Speaker 3: flat like breaks a tackle, doesn't look dance in the 814 00:37:35,893 --> 00:37:36,292 Speaker 3: end zone. 815 00:37:36,332 --> 00:37:38,212 Speaker 2: It's just it was such a great Jamis game. 816 00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:40,533 Speaker 3: It felt like also, I don't know, maybe there's a 817 00:37:40,533 --> 00:37:43,172 Speaker 3: stat for this, Billy the next gen stuff. It felt 818 00:37:43,252 --> 00:37:45,252 Speaker 3: like every pass he threw it was a deep ball, 819 00:37:45,933 --> 00:37:47,812 Speaker 3: Like anytime he was dropping back he was. 820 00:37:47,933 --> 00:37:49,692 Speaker 2: He was throwing long. It was just the. 821 00:37:49,652 --> 00:37:52,573 Speaker 1: Full This would have been a signature Jameis win if 822 00:37:52,613 --> 00:37:54,853 Speaker 1: they could have gotten it on the road in Detroit 823 00:37:54,852 --> 00:37:58,053 Speaker 1: in a game that they didn't shouldn't have won. But 824 00:37:58,133 --> 00:38:01,813 Speaker 1: the actually, you know, Giants were up ten again. Billy 825 00:38:01,852 --> 00:38:04,372 Speaker 1: They've had four games this year where they were up 826 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:07,932 Speaker 1: ten on the road and have lost all four of them. 827 00:38:07,933 --> 00:38:08,812 Speaker 2: That's crazy. 828 00:38:09,172 --> 00:38:11,412 Speaker 6: It is Jamiir Gibb just went off two hundred and 829 00:38:11,453 --> 00:38:13,613 Speaker 6: sixty four scrimming yards for him. Did you guys see 830 00:38:13,692 --> 00:38:16,652 Speaker 6: Jamis's pregame speech, because he's really good, way. 831 00:38:16,573 --> 00:38:17,332 Speaker 2: Don't skip over that. 832 00:38:17,332 --> 00:38:19,772 Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty four yards rushing from scrimmage is 833 00:38:19,772 --> 00:38:22,973 Speaker 1: in a excuse me, Jamier Gibbs, by the way, is 834 00:38:23,093 --> 00:38:25,732 Speaker 1: an absolutely obscene. 835 00:38:25,292 --> 00:38:26,213 Speaker 2: Number, But go ahead. 836 00:38:26,533 --> 00:38:29,212 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been incredible these last couple of games. But 837 00:38:29,732 --> 00:38:33,613 Speaker 6: Jamis said we outside, but we inside on his pregame. 838 00:38:33,812 --> 00:38:37,052 Speaker 1: I like that, So I guess, yeah, I guess that's 839 00:38:37,093 --> 00:38:39,053 Speaker 1: his thing is he says we outside, but then the 840 00:38:39,093 --> 00:38:42,652 Speaker 1: game was indoors. I appreciate it that he recognized that, 841 00:38:42,812 --> 00:38:46,093 Speaker 1: yes he was indoors, but metaphorically in his mind he 842 00:38:46,212 --> 00:38:47,212 Speaker 1: was outdoors. 843 00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:49,333 Speaker 6: Yeah, he's had some great ones in the past eating 844 00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:52,093 Speaker 6: w's say that there's Jamis. 845 00:38:52,133 --> 00:38:54,253 Speaker 5: The Jamis brand is strong right now in the NFL. 846 00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:57,933 Speaker 3: How about when it went to overtime, why did Russell 847 00:38:57,973 --> 00:39:00,093 Speaker 3: Wilson go out for the coin flip with his helmet on? 848 00:39:00,692 --> 00:39:03,692 Speaker 3: Why he wore his helmet, like, did we know you're 849 00:39:03,692 --> 00:39:05,533 Speaker 3: not playing? Jamis has been off to this game. I 850 00:39:05,533 --> 00:39:10,652 Speaker 3: don't understand that. Didn't understand that call at all. Plus 851 00:39:10,772 --> 00:39:14,133 Speaker 3: does no one likes Russell Wilson. You mentioned teams don't 852 00:39:14,172 --> 00:39:15,292 Speaker 3: kick field goals anymore? 853 00:39:15,453 --> 00:39:20,613 Speaker 1: Well, there were three games today where teams needed points 854 00:39:20,613 --> 00:39:21,372 Speaker 1: and chose. 855 00:39:21,133 --> 00:39:21,692 Speaker 2: Not to them. 856 00:39:21,893 --> 00:39:25,133 Speaker 1: One of them was here where the Lions had a 857 00:39:25,212 --> 00:39:27,532 Speaker 1: chance I believe to or the Giants had a chance 858 00:39:27,533 --> 00:39:29,732 Speaker 1: to go up six chose not to. 859 00:39:30,652 --> 00:39:32,412 Speaker 2: They probably win if they do it. 860 00:39:32,692 --> 00:39:34,852 Speaker 1: You had the Cowboys game where the Cowboys had a 861 00:39:34,893 --> 00:39:36,212 Speaker 1: chance to take the lead at the end of the 862 00:39:36,252 --> 00:39:39,332 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, didn't chose not to. And then you had 863 00:39:39,372 --> 00:39:42,093 Speaker 1: the Jaguars game where they two were up three, had 864 00:39:42,133 --> 00:39:44,533 Speaker 1: a chance to go up six, chose not to. In 865 00:39:44,573 --> 00:39:47,732 Speaker 1: all three situations they don't make it. Is this like 866 00:39:48,453 --> 00:39:51,292 Speaker 1: a plague of going forward a little too much on 867 00:39:51,413 --> 00:39:52,172 Speaker 1: fourth and goal? 868 00:39:53,212 --> 00:39:56,172 Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants, I guess I get it. You want 869 00:39:56,172 --> 00:39:59,013 Speaker 3: to put the game away. You're an interim coach. You're done. 870 00:39:59,093 --> 00:40:02,092 Speaker 3: You got Jamis Winston at quarterback and Russell Wilson wearing 871 00:40:02,093 --> 00:40:04,212 Speaker 3: his helmet over on the sideline, So I get you 872 00:40:04,292 --> 00:40:05,692 Speaker 3: want to try to go up ten, but it was 873 00:40:05,732 --> 00:40:07,892 Speaker 3: fourth and I would have taken the points there and 874 00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:09,692 Speaker 3: just tried to keep Detroit out of the end zone. 875 00:40:09,893 --> 00:40:11,252 Speaker 3: They went the other out and they go on and 876 00:40:11,292 --> 00:40:14,532 Speaker 3: lose overtime. So at least on that one, what else 877 00:40:14,613 --> 00:40:16,093 Speaker 3: we have to play for is their mindset. 878 00:40:16,093 --> 00:40:17,372 Speaker 2: I guess yeah. 879 00:40:17,692 --> 00:40:19,973 Speaker 1: I think the most egregious one was actually Dallas, and 880 00:40:20,013 --> 00:40:22,932 Speaker 1: we'll get a second because Dallas could have won the game. 881 00:40:23,093 --> 00:40:25,412 Speaker 1: They didn't win it, and it didn't matter, but let's 882 00:40:25,453 --> 00:40:26,213 Speaker 1: just go to that one. 883 00:40:26,372 --> 00:40:29,493 Speaker 2: The afternoon game Philadelphia. 884 00:40:29,812 --> 00:40:33,412 Speaker 1: Philadelphi scores first three possessions, it's twenty one nothing, it's 885 00:40:33,453 --> 00:40:38,093 Speaker 1: looking like games over, and then Dallas reels off twenty 886 00:40:38,133 --> 00:40:42,732 Speaker 1: four straight. Philadelphia makes some stupid decisions, big turnover. 887 00:40:44,772 --> 00:40:47,292 Speaker 2: Pretty much an amazing win for the Cowboys. 888 00:40:47,372 --> 00:40:51,613 Speaker 1: I watched this at a sports bar in Louisville, and 889 00:40:51,652 --> 00:40:56,613 Speaker 1: there were three really drunk Cowboys fans and I just 890 00:40:56,652 --> 00:40:58,772 Speaker 1: need to They were sitting at the table next to me, 891 00:40:58,812 --> 00:41:01,852 Speaker 1: and I was, as you do on an NFL Sunday, 892 00:41:02,533 --> 00:41:05,333 Speaker 1: I was eating food and I was reading the New Yorker. 893 00:41:06,292 --> 00:41:10,732 Speaker 1: The games on around me. That's a good Sunday for me. 894 00:41:11,332 --> 00:41:16,453 Speaker 1: Games everywhere New Yorker during the breaks, and it's twenty 895 00:41:16,493 --> 00:41:20,133 Speaker 1: one seven, and this guy just is yelling so loud 896 00:41:20,212 --> 00:41:22,692 Speaker 1: for every Dallas play and I wanted to look at 897 00:41:22,812 --> 00:41:27,732 Speaker 1: him and say, sir, it's over. You're not gonna win. 898 00:41:28,212 --> 00:41:32,212 Speaker 1: You all stink. I'm trying to read the New Yorker. 899 00:41:32,692 --> 00:41:36,053 Speaker 1: Can you please keep it down? But he kept But 900 00:41:36,172 --> 00:41:39,212 Speaker 1: I give him credit because he kept yelling, and he 901 00:41:39,332 --> 00:41:42,532 Speaker 1: yelled every play, and he was in it, and he 902 00:41:42,652 --> 00:41:46,332 Speaker 1: was screaming and he was yelling, and it ended up 903 00:41:46,413 --> 00:41:49,932 Speaker 1: working out. But the best moment was towards the end 904 00:41:49,933 --> 00:41:52,292 Speaker 1: of the game when the other games had ended. You 905 00:41:52,332 --> 00:41:54,172 Speaker 1: know how they'll switch to the get. 906 00:41:54,013 --> 00:41:54,613 Speaker 2: To the game. 907 00:41:55,692 --> 00:41:57,972 Speaker 1: The TVs that had been on the other game were 908 00:41:58,093 --> 00:42:04,412 Speaker 1: like ten seconds ahead of the Cowboys feed, right, so 909 00:42:04,573 --> 00:42:07,692 Speaker 1: the sound and a lot of the TVs were playing 910 00:42:07,732 --> 00:42:10,613 Speaker 1: the game, but there were most TVs were now ahead. 911 00:42:11,933 --> 00:42:17,012 Speaker 1: My man that was screaming never realized it. Okay, he 912 00:42:17,093 --> 00:42:19,573 Speaker 1: was so drunk he never realized it. 913 00:42:19,933 --> 00:42:22,573 Speaker 2: So as the as it would go, the Cowboys. 914 00:42:22,133 --> 00:42:26,292 Speaker 1: Fans would cheer, and then ten seconds later he would 915 00:42:26,413 --> 00:42:28,053 Speaker 1: cheer when he saw it. 916 00:42:28,652 --> 00:42:31,252 Speaker 2: And I was wondering, what is his in his mind? 917 00:42:31,772 --> 00:42:34,212 Speaker 1: Why does he think all these other people are cheering 918 00:42:34,332 --> 00:42:38,133 Speaker 1: ten seconds before him. So I think the whole restaurant 919 00:42:38,252 --> 00:42:43,213 Speaker 1: collectively decided the joy in the game would be seeing 920 00:42:43,252 --> 00:42:47,652 Speaker 1: the Cowboys do something successful, waiting ten seconds for him 921 00:42:47,692 --> 00:42:51,812 Speaker 1: to find out, and then watching him celebrate. And so 922 00:42:51,893 --> 00:42:55,212 Speaker 1: he went from someone I didn't enjoy to my favorite 923 00:42:55,212 --> 00:43:00,252 Speaker 1: person ten seconds later, Gary, who would celebrate all of Cowboys' success. 924 00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:02,812 Speaker 3: It sounds like a man is just locked into his team. 925 00:43:02,893 --> 00:43:05,133 Speaker 3: You don't even know his surroundings. He probably even know 926 00:43:05,212 --> 00:43:09,533 Speaker 3: there are other people. They're in the restaurant and that TV. 927 00:43:10,332 --> 00:43:13,613 Speaker 2: This is one seconds late. This is what I mentioned. 928 00:43:13,652 --> 00:43:15,932 Speaker 2: I just rode games off at twenty one. Nothing. I 929 00:43:16,053 --> 00:43:16,532 Speaker 2: checked out. 930 00:43:16,573 --> 00:43:18,332 Speaker 3: I was in the other room talking to people, having 931 00:43:18,332 --> 00:43:19,932 Speaker 3: a good time, and then come back in and it's 932 00:43:19,933 --> 00:43:22,292 Speaker 3: twenty one fourteen, thought, oh, I need to take a 933 00:43:22,292 --> 00:43:24,012 Speaker 3: seat and kind of lock into what's happening here. 934 00:43:24,533 --> 00:43:26,652 Speaker 2: This would have been on the epic Cowboys loss. 935 00:43:26,692 --> 00:43:28,812 Speaker 1: By the way, Cebee Lamb had a drop in the 936 00:43:28,893 --> 00:43:32,452 Speaker 1: end zone that was absolutely brutal. They go for it 937 00:43:32,493 --> 00:43:35,972 Speaker 1: on fourth down, Aubrey misses only his second field goal 938 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:37,412 Speaker 1: of the year. I mean, this would have been an 939 00:43:37,453 --> 00:43:40,333 Speaker 1: epic loss. But you are a kind of your wife's 940 00:43:40,332 --> 00:43:42,732 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. This ends up being one of their 941 00:43:42,973 --> 00:43:45,213 Speaker 1: more exciting wins in the last couple of years. 942 00:43:45,533 --> 00:43:47,292 Speaker 3: It was my brother in law is an Eagles fan. 943 00:43:47,332 --> 00:43:49,812 Speaker 3: There's like a family dynamic. They bet on every game. 944 00:43:49,893 --> 00:43:52,532 Speaker 3: So there was trash talking all day for this. I 945 00:43:52,613 --> 00:43:55,133 Speaker 3: could not believe that they did not kick that field 946 00:43:55,133 --> 00:43:56,092 Speaker 3: goal in a TI game. 947 00:43:56,413 --> 00:43:57,532 Speaker 2: I mean, I checked it. 948 00:43:57,533 --> 00:44:02,172 Speaker 1: I mean the argument was if we kicked this, they'll 949 00:44:02,172 --> 00:44:03,413 Speaker 1: still get the ball at the thirty. 950 00:44:03,493 --> 00:44:05,372 Speaker 2: They're gonna tie. I mean, that's the whole thing we've 951 00:44:05,372 --> 00:44:05,852 Speaker 2: talked about. 952 00:44:06,533 --> 00:44:07,933 Speaker 1: If you kick it off, they're going to get the 953 00:44:07,933 --> 00:44:09,373 Speaker 1: ball at the thirty probably anyway. 954 00:44:09,692 --> 00:44:11,533 Speaker 2: So you would have kicked it though. 955 00:44:12,292 --> 00:44:14,933 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the Eagles hadn't scored since early in 956 00:44:14,973 --> 00:44:17,412 Speaker 3: the second quarter. Your defense had been stopping him. I mean, 957 00:44:17,453 --> 00:44:19,413 Speaker 3: there was only a little over two minutes left. 958 00:44:19,613 --> 00:44:20,253 Speaker 2: Tie game. 959 00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:22,772 Speaker 3: The other scenarios we brought up, we're talking about a 960 00:44:22,772 --> 00:44:25,412 Speaker 3: team up three trying not to you know, go up 961 00:44:25,493 --> 00:44:27,732 Speaker 3: six or go up ten. This is a tie game 962 00:44:27,772 --> 00:44:30,412 Speaker 3: with under three minutes left, get the points and go up. 963 00:44:30,652 --> 00:44:32,732 Speaker 3: Luckily it ended up working. But I was at a 964 00:44:32,732 --> 00:44:35,372 Speaker 3: party about fifteen people all shouted at once, what are 965 00:44:35,413 --> 00:44:37,093 Speaker 3: you all doing? We were just in shock that they 966 00:44:37,093 --> 00:44:38,093 Speaker 3: weren't taking the field goal. 967 00:44:38,533 --> 00:44:42,053 Speaker 1: Yeah, this morning when I did ESPN and I had 968 00:44:42,053 --> 00:44:45,212 Speaker 1: a guest host with me, Myron was gone. Andrew south Chunis. 969 00:44:45,252 --> 00:44:47,453 Speaker 1: I guess he's like a talk radio guy in Philly. 970 00:44:47,493 --> 00:44:50,252 Speaker 1: So he was my guest host. And I was like, dude, 971 00:44:50,252 --> 00:44:51,972 Speaker 1: you won the Super Bowl last year and you're eight 972 00:44:52,013 --> 00:44:55,932 Speaker 1: and two, Like, why are you so negative? And he 973 00:44:55,973 --> 00:45:00,573 Speaker 1: was and he said, our offense stinks. Wait and see, 974 00:45:00,732 --> 00:45:03,413 Speaker 1: wait and see. And then today they get up twenty 975 00:45:03,453 --> 00:45:06,492 Speaker 1: one to nothing. I barely know this man. I text 976 00:45:06,573 --> 00:45:09,773 Speaker 1: him and know I'm like, see, what were you complaining about? 977 00:45:10,053 --> 00:45:13,372 Speaker 1: And then I got an hour straight of TOLDJA, Told JA, 978 00:45:13,652 --> 00:45:16,412 Speaker 1: they stink, told JA, and he was proven right. 979 00:45:17,413 --> 00:45:20,172 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've gone the wrong way offensively. Their defense is 980 00:45:20,172 --> 00:45:21,812 Speaker 3: still stout even though they gave this up. But on 981 00:45:21,852 --> 00:45:25,212 Speaker 3: the Cowboys end, that offense, Pickens that's gonna end up 982 00:45:25,252 --> 00:45:27,053 Speaker 3: being one of the best trades ever. Pickens has had 983 00:45:27,093 --> 00:45:30,852 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty back to back games touchdowns. CD 984 00:45:31,013 --> 00:45:33,212 Speaker 3: had the horrible drop that you mentioned. I don't know 985 00:45:33,212 --> 00:45:35,573 Speaker 3: the Pickens is ever going to steal like CDs spot 986 00:45:35,652 --> 00:45:38,172 Speaker 3: is wide receiver won there, but they have been incredible 987 00:45:38,212 --> 00:45:40,972 Speaker 3: combo and Pickens is having a sensational year. 988 00:45:40,973 --> 00:45:42,772 Speaker 2: That's kind of unexpected when people wrote him off. 989 00:45:43,093 --> 00:45:45,692 Speaker 1: What'd you think of the guy on the punt return 990 00:45:45,812 --> 00:45:49,292 Speaker 1: who is becoming like hero of the film room. He 991 00:45:49,332 --> 00:45:52,932 Speaker 1: gets knocked down twice, just like Chumble one, but he 992 00:45:53,013 --> 00:45:56,613 Speaker 1: gets up again and comes down and makes the hit 993 00:45:56,772 --> 00:45:58,452 Speaker 1: that causes the fumble that day. 994 00:45:58,613 --> 00:46:02,853 Speaker 3: He ends up becoming a hero. Yeah, Elijah Clark, a rookie. 995 00:46:02,852 --> 00:46:04,772 Speaker 3: I'm gonna make your prediction. We're gonna get some kind 996 00:46:04,772 --> 00:46:06,812 Speaker 3: of video out of the Cowboys mark marketing where they 997 00:46:06,812 --> 00:46:09,732 Speaker 3: show that in the in the film room tomorrow because 998 00:46:09,732 --> 00:46:11,852 Speaker 3: that's one of those plays. Even if he did that 999 00:46:12,053 --> 00:46:14,852 Speaker 3: and it's not a game flipping moment like that, just 1000 00:46:14,893 --> 00:46:17,292 Speaker 3: to stay with it, get knocked down twice, maybe even 1001 00:46:17,332 --> 00:46:18,053 Speaker 3: a third time, and go. 1002 00:46:18,172 --> 00:46:21,172 Speaker 2: Make that play. That's something the coaches love in practice. 1003 00:46:21,292 --> 00:46:24,292 Speaker 1: It's already been everywhere and like everybody who likes football 1004 00:46:24,372 --> 00:46:26,893 Speaker 1: is like a football got. 1005 00:46:26,812 --> 00:46:29,652 Speaker 2: Played, geto GETO near for people up. 1006 00:46:30,292 --> 00:46:32,613 Speaker 1: I tell you make gross dude like they like, and 1007 00:46:32,692 --> 00:46:36,892 Speaker 1: that's this is it's such a football dude thing, you know. 1008 00:46:37,093 --> 00:46:39,613 Speaker 2: But he was getting beat up dump him. I don't 1009 00:46:39,652 --> 00:46:41,732 Speaker 2: know I get here. I just like. 1010 00:46:42,692 --> 00:46:46,493 Speaker 1: Every person went online to be more manly in trying 1011 00:46:46,533 --> 00:46:48,652 Speaker 1: to talk about how great that play was. 1012 00:46:49,372 --> 00:47:07,732 Speaker 2: It wasn't great play though. Save the game. Chador is. 1013 00:47:08,212 --> 00:47:11,412 Speaker 1: Yeah, they went against the Raiders twenty four to ten. 1014 00:47:12,533 --> 00:47:18,493 Speaker 1: I mean, he wasn't like good, but he wasn't bad. 1015 00:47:18,692 --> 00:47:20,692 Speaker 1: But they won, so you gotta give him credit for that. 1016 00:47:20,772 --> 00:47:23,252 Speaker 1: He had one I thought, really good pass, a deep 1017 00:47:23,332 --> 00:47:26,252 Speaker 1: pass early in the game that was a really great look. 1018 00:47:26,252 --> 00:47:28,452 Speaker 1: He throw it on the run. Rest of the game 1019 00:47:28,573 --> 00:47:30,812 Speaker 1: in it was whatever. They didn't have him do it 1020 00:47:30,812 --> 00:47:32,012 Speaker 1: a whole lot, but they did win. 1021 00:47:32,893 --> 00:47:35,533 Speaker 2: And after the game, what was it you said? He said? 1022 00:47:36,413 --> 00:47:38,692 Speaker 3: He said, this is what I did after a week 1023 00:47:38,732 --> 00:47:42,013 Speaker 3: of practice. Give me a whole offseason and it'll be dangerous. 1024 00:47:43,893 --> 00:47:48,533 Speaker 2: She k like, you know, he ain't stopping. He's gonna 1025 00:47:48,533 --> 00:47:49,573 Speaker 2: be what he's gonna be. 1026 00:47:51,372 --> 00:47:56,333 Speaker 1: I saw a manual Acho who just on a personal level, 1027 00:47:56,372 --> 00:47:59,773 Speaker 1: I just find the cheesiest human being on earth, unless 1028 00:47:59,772 --> 00:48:01,412 Speaker 1: he works for the NFL, at which point I think 1029 00:48:01,413 --> 00:48:05,452 Speaker 1: he's wonderful. He he did one of those videos where 1030 00:48:05,493 --> 00:48:07,533 Speaker 1: he like just hold holds the phone right next to 1031 00:48:07,573 --> 00:48:09,892 Speaker 1: his face and he's like holding his finger and he 1032 00:48:09,973 --> 00:48:14,053 Speaker 1: was like, if this is Shador's floor, wait till you 1033 00:48:14,252 --> 00:48:17,692 Speaker 1: see what his ceiling is. I don't know why I 1034 00:48:17,732 --> 00:48:20,852 Speaker 1: sounded like Jimmy swagger, but that's what he did. And 1035 00:48:20,933 --> 00:48:22,772 Speaker 1: I thought, well, how do you know it's his floor? 1036 00:48:22,852 --> 00:48:25,212 Speaker 1: That may be his peak. I mean they didn't have 1037 00:48:25,212 --> 00:48:26,613 Speaker 1: any film on Hym. That might be the best he 1038 00:48:26,732 --> 00:48:30,013 Speaker 1: ever playing the worst team in the league. Yeah, I 1039 00:48:30,013 --> 00:48:31,772 Speaker 1: think you wear like ten for twenty. I'm not trying 1040 00:48:31,812 --> 00:48:36,212 Speaker 1: to downplay today. I will say that throw fifty two 1041 00:48:36,292 --> 00:48:39,413 Speaker 1: yard throw. I had some feelings for I feel happy 1042 00:48:39,413 --> 00:48:41,892 Speaker 1: for him. They showed Miles Garrett. He looked like a 1043 00:48:41,893 --> 00:48:42,933 Speaker 1: proud period Dion. 1044 00:48:43,013 --> 00:48:44,093 Speaker 2: Oh he was shocked. 1045 00:48:44,252 --> 00:48:47,652 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett looked like, what how did you do that? 1046 00:48:47,893 --> 00:48:50,332 Speaker 1: I've never seen that before. That was his look to 1047 00:48:50,372 --> 00:48:50,813 Speaker 1: be honest. 1048 00:48:50,852 --> 00:48:53,613 Speaker 2: Yeah, well Dion and his cowboy hat. I did have 1049 00:48:53,692 --> 00:48:55,613 Speaker 2: a big smile for shit. Look the cowboy hat. 1050 00:48:55,692 --> 00:48:57,613 Speaker 1: By the way, what do you think about EON's like 1051 00:48:57,933 --> 00:49:00,493 Speaker 1: like he's now? I mean when I go to Vegas, 1052 00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:03,333 Speaker 1: I wear a cowboy hat. But that's just because ladies 1053 00:49:03,493 --> 00:49:05,573 Speaker 1: like it. Maybe that's why Deon does it too. I 1054 00:49:05,613 --> 00:49:09,612 Speaker 1: don't know, do you like the cowboy hat I do. Yeah, 1055 00:49:09,613 --> 00:49:10,812 Speaker 1: I'm not a huge dal I'm not. 1056 00:49:10,933 --> 00:49:13,732 Speaker 3: You know, people, they're like a polarizing thing, like either 1057 00:49:13,732 --> 00:49:14,572 Speaker 3: hate him you don't. 1058 00:49:14,852 --> 00:49:15,573 Speaker 2: I'm indifferent. 1059 00:49:15,613 --> 00:49:17,612 Speaker 3: I was happy for him in that moment, enjoyed seeing 1060 00:49:17,652 --> 00:49:21,492 Speaker 3: Dion celebrate. I just wish, you know, the past got 1061 00:49:21,493 --> 00:49:23,613 Speaker 3: stopped on the one couldn't get credit for a touchdown. 1062 00:49:23,613 --> 00:49:25,133 Speaker 2: I wish it had had one more yard, would have 1063 00:49:25,133 --> 00:49:26,133 Speaker 2: got yours first TD. 1064 00:49:27,053 --> 00:49:29,292 Speaker 1: I yeah, his first TD ended up being like a 1065 00:49:29,493 --> 00:49:33,812 Speaker 1: dump off. The guy ran sixty five yards. It's weird 1066 00:49:33,812 --> 00:49:36,093 Speaker 1: because I really liked Don and all. I mean, I've 1067 00:49:36,212 --> 00:49:37,892 Speaker 1: liked him since I was a kid. I was doing 1068 00:49:37,893 --> 00:49:40,812 Speaker 1: the d On dance when I was ten, when he 1069 00:49:40,893 --> 00:49:43,652 Speaker 1: was at Florida State, right Like, I love the guy. 1070 00:49:45,732 --> 00:49:48,453 Speaker 2: I don't know why it hasn't transferred to his son. 1071 00:49:48,613 --> 00:49:52,093 Speaker 1: I don't have that same affinity, but I do think, 1072 00:49:52,172 --> 00:49:55,532 Speaker 1: you know, he's good entertainment at least, like he's more 1073 00:49:56,093 --> 00:49:58,732 Speaker 1: I think Dylan Gabriel is probably still better, but he's 1074 00:49:58,812 --> 00:50:00,093 Speaker 1: more fun to talk about. 1075 00:50:01,133 --> 00:50:03,172 Speaker 3: And if it had been Dylan Gabriel, I would have 1076 00:50:03,252 --> 00:50:06,813 Speaker 3: watched zero minutes the zero of it, I mean zero. 1077 00:50:07,013 --> 00:50:08,852 Speaker 3: If I could have found a way to get away 1078 00:50:08,852 --> 00:50:10,292 Speaker 3: from that game. If I were near it, I would 1079 00:50:10,292 --> 00:50:11,892 Speaker 3: have done it, but with Shadur you had to keep 1080 00:50:11,933 --> 00:50:12,412 Speaker 3: eyes on it. 1081 00:50:12,453 --> 00:50:14,732 Speaker 6: Do you guys feel bad for Miles Garrett. He's had 1082 00:50:14,772 --> 00:50:17,613 Speaker 6: fourteen sacks in five games. He has eighteen and a 1083 00:50:17,652 --> 00:50:19,932 Speaker 6: half sacks and the record is twenty one in a 1084 00:50:19,973 --> 00:50:22,772 Speaker 6: season or actually, I'm sorry twenty two sent by Michael Strahan. 1085 00:50:22,973 --> 00:50:23,932 Speaker 5: I mean, he's gonna break the all. 1086 00:50:23,973 --> 00:50:26,772 Speaker 1: He's gonna end up having one of these careers. We 1087 00:50:26,852 --> 00:50:29,732 Speaker 1: talked about this, like Joe Thomas, the other Browns got 1088 00:50:29,732 --> 00:50:33,253 Speaker 1: where he's like an all time great and no one 1089 00:50:34,093 --> 00:50:36,413 Speaker 1: I don't see, no one knows, but no one cares 1090 00:50:36,493 --> 00:50:39,852 Speaker 1: because the team's never good. He's amazing. I mean, he's 1091 00:50:39,893 --> 00:50:42,613 Speaker 1: amazing and like no one of me. If he played 1092 00:50:42,652 --> 00:50:44,533 Speaker 1: for a good team, he would be one of the 1093 00:50:44,573 --> 00:50:45,573 Speaker 1: faces of the league. 1094 00:50:47,133 --> 00:50:49,133 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I thought there might be a chance 1095 00:50:49,172 --> 00:50:51,493 Speaker 3: he'd try to go get to a contender maybe in 1096 00:50:51,533 --> 00:50:53,453 Speaker 3: his career. Like, guys, do I think he's just gonna 1097 00:50:53,453 --> 00:50:57,092 Speaker 3: retire Brown with sacks records and nothing in his trophy case? 1098 00:50:57,652 --> 00:51:00,012 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually that's one of the sadder thoughts. He's 1099 00:51:00,053 --> 00:51:01,613 Speaker 1: gonna retire a Brown. 1100 00:51:03,013 --> 00:51:05,493 Speaker 5: He took the money. It's his choice. 1101 00:51:05,413 --> 00:51:07,212 Speaker 1: Tell me, I'm not I'm not a grudging him. I'm 1102 00:51:07,252 --> 00:51:10,852 Speaker 1: just like, can you imagine just saying the phrase, I mean, 1103 00:51:11,013 --> 00:51:12,853 Speaker 1: it's I'm retiring of Brown. 1104 00:51:13,013 --> 00:51:14,613 Speaker 2: It's not even a fun nickname. 1105 00:51:15,252 --> 00:51:16,452 Speaker 3: And then you got to think, do I want to 1106 00:51:16,493 --> 00:51:19,212 Speaker 3: just stay around Cleveland and be a legend or no? 1107 00:51:19,493 --> 00:51:22,013 Speaker 2: I mean he doesn't. I can answer that question. No 1108 00:51:22,172 --> 00:51:22,732 Speaker 2: he doesn't. 1109 00:51:22,812 --> 00:51:25,652 Speaker 1: He'll fly in when they retires Jersey and he'll come 1110 00:51:25,692 --> 00:51:26,973 Speaker 1: once a year, and like. 1111 00:51:27,252 --> 00:51:29,172 Speaker 2: He does not want to stay there. 1112 00:51:29,212 --> 00:51:34,613 Speaker 1: I don't think Jaguars beat the Cardinals twenty seven, twenty 1113 00:51:34,652 --> 00:51:39,172 Speaker 1: four Trevor Lawrence. They won, but he put on and 1114 00:51:39,772 --> 00:51:45,013 Speaker 1: really epically bad. He had four turnovers, the three interceptions. 1115 00:51:45,372 --> 00:51:47,932 Speaker 1: You want to talk about the opposite of the Cowboys 1116 00:51:47,933 --> 00:51:52,093 Speaker 1: guy covering the pun. Go look at Trevor Lawrence's receptions 1117 00:51:52,652 --> 00:51:56,533 Speaker 1: an interception. They were awful. The ball would like do 1118 00:51:57,372 --> 00:52:03,372 Speaker 1: orbital spins and get intercepted. He made horrible decisions. He 1119 00:52:03,573 --> 00:52:07,533 Speaker 1: is Tom Brady one day and like Wayne Brady the 1120 00:52:07,533 --> 00:52:10,933 Speaker 1: next day. It is unbelievable how bad he can look. 1121 00:52:11,852 --> 00:52:14,692 Speaker 3: And we're starting to see more Wayne Brady than Tom Brady. 1122 00:52:15,292 --> 00:52:17,813 Speaker 3: I was thinking earlier in the year that Liam Cohen 1123 00:52:17,933 --> 00:52:20,053 Speaker 3: might fire him up and we might see his career 1124 00:52:20,133 --> 00:52:23,692 Speaker 3: take off. But I'm getting more Wayne Brady, especially today 1125 00:52:23,732 --> 00:52:24,892 Speaker 3: with the four turnovers. 1126 00:52:25,252 --> 00:52:25,812 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1127 00:52:25,852 --> 00:52:30,212 Speaker 1: Well, I mean they won to their credit and Cardinals 1128 00:52:30,212 --> 00:52:32,093 Speaker 1: had a chance at the end. We're not able to 1129 00:52:32,133 --> 00:52:34,053 Speaker 1: do it. I don't know if you saw Liam Cohen 1130 00:52:34,053 --> 00:52:35,572 Speaker 1: they went into overtime. I don't know if you saw 1131 00:52:35,613 --> 00:52:37,453 Speaker 1: Liam Cohen's postgame speech. 1132 00:52:38,413 --> 00:52:41,212 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen goes he was like. 1133 00:52:41,613 --> 00:52:46,933 Speaker 1: In Jacksonville, Florida, it is known we do not apologize 1134 00:52:46,973 --> 00:52:47,772 Speaker 1: for victories. 1135 00:52:48,573 --> 00:52:51,533 Speaker 2: And I was like, known by who. 1136 00:52:53,053 --> 00:52:56,453 Speaker 1: Who has an opinion about what they do in Jacksonville, Florida. 1137 00:52:56,812 --> 00:53:00,093 Speaker 1: He said it, like it's pretty much you know, San Francisco, 1138 00:53:00,852 --> 00:53:06,772 Speaker 1: known for Rayne, New Orleans known for Cajun Jacksonville, known 1139 00:53:06,812 --> 00:53:08,732 Speaker 1: for not apologizing for victory. 1140 00:53:09,613 --> 00:53:12,012 Speaker 3: You know, we knew Liam when he was here at UK. 1141 00:53:12,292 --> 00:53:14,652 Speaker 3: I never expected we'd get as many locker room speeches. 1142 00:53:14,652 --> 00:53:16,772 Speaker 3: They're tweeting out for a big locker room speech. Yeah, 1143 00:53:16,772 --> 00:53:18,732 Speaker 3: but he's also kind of corny. I mean the du 1144 00:53:18,852 --> 00:53:21,812 Speaker 3: Vaux that's more him than the locker room speeches. But 1145 00:53:21,852 --> 00:53:24,892 Speaker 3: they keep putting him out. Well, they're awkward I mean 1146 00:53:25,413 --> 00:53:29,013 Speaker 3: they put him out. He doesn't look like you know, 1147 00:53:29,212 --> 00:53:31,133 Speaker 3: I mean, I like Liam, he's good. 1148 00:53:31,133 --> 00:53:31,413 Speaker 2: Coach. 1149 00:53:31,973 --> 00:53:35,452 Speaker 1: Liam would come to our bar and he would be 1150 00:53:35,493 --> 00:53:38,533 Speaker 1: one of the more awkward people in the bar. So 1151 00:53:38,652 --> 00:53:41,492 Speaker 1: you put him in an NFL locker room, I have 1152 00:53:41,533 --> 00:53:45,053 Speaker 1: to think. But look, he's done well. They're good. They 1153 00:53:45,093 --> 00:53:47,213 Speaker 1: would have a playoff spot if it started today. 1154 00:53:47,893 --> 00:53:50,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we predicted they might be in the Texans. 1155 00:53:50,732 --> 00:53:54,452 Speaker 3: Winning on Thursday was big in that division, but Jacksonville's 1156 00:53:54,453 --> 00:53:55,452 Speaker 3: still on track to get there. 1157 00:53:56,413 --> 00:54:01,052 Speaker 1: Falcons in the Saints, I don't know who cares. I mean, 1158 00:54:01,133 --> 00:54:05,613 Speaker 1: I think the Falcons won, but I'm not sure. They 1159 00:54:05,732 --> 00:54:08,412 Speaker 1: still five more times this season, so there'll be plenty 1160 00:54:08,453 --> 00:54:10,532 Speaker 1: of times for the Saints to get revenge. 1161 00:54:11,172 --> 00:54:16,532 Speaker 2: I can't who are the people that watched these two 1162 00:54:16,613 --> 00:54:21,133 Speaker 2: teams play and why Tyler Shuck's parents. 1163 00:54:22,292 --> 00:54:25,212 Speaker 1: All the kamara I saw got taken out of the game, 1164 00:54:25,252 --> 00:54:28,732 Speaker 1: which reminded me that he's played for forty seven years. 1165 00:54:29,613 --> 00:54:32,532 Speaker 3: Yeah, this was a pretty boring. I mean, you had 1166 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:36,133 Speaker 3: cousins at quarterback for Atlanta. Jhon Robinson didn't even have 1167 00:54:36,212 --> 00:54:38,012 Speaker 3: a big game. It was just kind of a dull 1168 00:54:38,093 --> 00:54:39,053 Speaker 3: game all the way around. 1169 00:54:39,533 --> 00:54:40,372 Speaker 2: Is this one of. 1170 00:54:40,292 --> 00:54:43,973 Speaker 1: The worst endings of a career for what Kirk Cousins 1171 00:54:44,053 --> 00:54:46,772 Speaker 1: is having. I mean, a lot of people, I'm trying 1172 00:54:46,772 --> 00:54:49,093 Speaker 1: to think, what's a worse ending than you just ended 1173 00:54:49,172 --> 00:54:52,652 Speaker 1: up on Atlanta, got beat out by a rookie and 1174 00:54:52,732 --> 00:54:56,253 Speaker 1: come in and just you know, bore people to death 1175 00:54:57,093 --> 00:54:58,333 Speaker 1: for the end of the season. 1176 00:54:58,933 --> 00:55:00,613 Speaker 3: And I just you got beat out by a rookie. 1177 00:55:00,732 --> 00:55:02,732 Speaker 3: They paid you to be the guy and then drafted 1178 00:55:02,772 --> 00:55:03,692 Speaker 3: her rookie right. 1179 00:55:03,533 --> 00:55:07,412 Speaker 2: Over the top of you. So yeah, he's old. He 1180 00:55:07,493 --> 00:55:08,093 Speaker 2: is old. 1181 00:55:08,453 --> 00:55:12,372 Speaker 6: About Russell Wilson, I love him though, Well, yeah that's 1182 00:55:12,413 --> 00:55:13,933 Speaker 6: true Russell Wilson. 1183 00:55:14,493 --> 00:55:17,172 Speaker 1: But yeah, I guess Russell Wilson's decline. I mean there 1184 00:55:17,332 --> 00:55:19,212 Speaker 1: there have been a few of these. I mean Philip 1185 00:55:19,292 --> 00:55:22,652 Speaker 1: Rivers I think finished his career in Indianapolis. 1186 00:55:22,573 --> 00:55:26,413 Speaker 2: Uh for a year. Trying to think of other guys 1187 00:55:26,413 --> 00:55:27,972 Speaker 2: who had weird finishes. 1188 00:55:30,252 --> 00:55:31,892 Speaker 3: Well, the weirdest for me will always be Bred for 1189 00:55:31,973 --> 00:55:34,013 Speaker 3: having a Jets jersey. But that Aaron Rodgers kind of 1190 00:55:34,053 --> 00:55:34,732 Speaker 3: recreated it. 1191 00:55:35,852 --> 00:55:38,013 Speaker 1: He did, but he's actually gotten a little bit of 1192 00:55:38,053 --> 00:55:41,052 Speaker 1: a bounce back with Pittsburgh. He doesn't it's not and 1193 00:55:41,093 --> 00:55:44,493 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got hurt, so it was kind of a different, 1194 00:55:44,613 --> 00:55:46,172 Speaker 1: different ending for their careers. 1195 00:55:46,732 --> 00:55:47,573 Speaker 2: But there are those. 1196 00:55:47,413 --> 00:55:49,212 Speaker 3: Players that will go do it somewhere else and it's 1197 00:55:49,252 --> 00:55:50,613 Speaker 3: just weird seeing in another jersey. 1198 00:55:51,013 --> 00:55:52,172 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like those. 1199 00:55:52,732 --> 00:55:55,172 Speaker 1: Somebody should have a collection of just guys who went 1200 00:55:55,212 --> 00:56:00,133 Speaker 1: to other teams, like the Shaquille O'Neill Cleveland Cavaliers Jersey. 1201 00:56:00,413 --> 00:56:03,412 Speaker 2: Those are the jerseys that I would like to have, 1202 00:56:03,772 --> 00:56:05,852 Speaker 2: And it's Smith being a Cardinals high on that list 1203 00:56:05,852 --> 00:56:06,332 Speaker 2: for me too. 1204 00:56:06,453 --> 00:56:08,532 Speaker 1: Yeah, he had a good year for them, though Here 1205 00:56:10,812 --> 00:56:12,933 Speaker 1: Joe Montana was a Chief, but like took him in 1206 00:56:12,933 --> 00:56:15,212 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, like I think took him maybe 1207 00:56:15,212 --> 00:56:18,293 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship one year as a chief. People forget 1208 00:56:18,332 --> 00:56:24,573 Speaker 1: those Bucks. Rams was tonight. Baker Mayfield got her, but 1209 00:56:24,613 --> 00:56:26,812 Speaker 1: the Rams were dominant. Are they the best team in 1210 00:56:26,812 --> 00:56:27,213 Speaker 1: the league? 1211 00:56:28,332 --> 00:56:29,292 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1212 00:56:29,453 --> 00:56:32,093 Speaker 3: And Stafford, I mean I haven't seen his final stats 1213 00:56:32,093 --> 00:56:33,932 Speaker 3: because we've been happen as it's been an ending, but 1214 00:56:34,053 --> 00:56:36,573 Speaker 3: just seeing the final score, I'm gonna assume Stafford had 1215 00:56:36,613 --> 00:56:37,452 Speaker 3: another huge game. 1216 00:56:38,493 --> 00:56:43,172 Speaker 2: There's four possessions, four touchdowns and four possessions. Mora and Billy. 1217 00:56:43,573 --> 00:56:44,772 Speaker 2: The year was so fun early. 1218 00:56:44,893 --> 00:56:46,452 Speaker 3: How we feel in the last two weeks, I know, 1219 00:56:46,493 --> 00:56:48,892 Speaker 3: it was a good competition, but taking a couple of 1220 00:56:49,093 --> 00:56:51,093 Speaker 3: l's for your team that was looking like a contender 1221 00:56:51,133 --> 00:56:51,773 Speaker 3: there for a while. 1222 00:56:52,053 --> 00:56:54,772 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's all systems failure. They're lucky to have an 1223 00:56:54,772 --> 00:56:57,092 Speaker 6: easy schedule. They played Carolina two of the last three weeks, 1224 00:56:57,093 --> 00:56:58,773 Speaker 6: so maybe they can still win the division. 1225 00:56:59,053 --> 00:57:02,213 Speaker 2: Easy. We mean easy, that's not They're six and five, 1226 00:57:02,372 --> 00:57:03,212 Speaker 2: that's not easy. 1227 00:57:03,453 --> 00:57:05,972 Speaker 6: Although they're scheduled, they play all their NFC South teams 1228 00:57:05,973 --> 00:57:07,172 Speaker 6: here on the back, so it's going to be a 1229 00:57:07,172 --> 00:57:08,493 Speaker 6: little easier than what they've played. 1230 00:57:08,613 --> 00:57:09,893 Speaker 5: But I mean, they. 1231 00:57:09,732 --> 00:57:11,692 Speaker 6: Don't have a corner, they don't have a pass rush. 1232 00:57:11,893 --> 00:57:15,452 Speaker 6: It's disgusting out there. I enjoyed the brief moments of 1233 00:57:15,493 --> 00:57:17,173 Speaker 6: hope that we got in that Bills game that they 1234 00:57:17,213 --> 00:57:19,773 Speaker 6: played in, but since then it's been nothing but bad. 1235 00:57:20,893 --> 00:57:21,492 Speaker 1: It was cool here. 1236 00:57:21,573 --> 00:57:23,733 Speaker 5: Teddy Bridgewater, Teddy two Gloves. 1237 00:57:23,852 --> 00:57:24,412 Speaker 2: I didn't know. 1238 00:57:24,613 --> 00:57:26,653 Speaker 1: When he was out there. I didn't know who that 1239 00:57:26,852 --> 00:57:29,293 Speaker 1: was at first, Like when he came out. First of all, 1240 00:57:29,333 --> 00:57:31,213 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Teddy in a long time. I didn't 1241 00:57:31,213 --> 00:57:33,813 Speaker 1: realize his hair was like that, so I was like, 1242 00:57:33,852 --> 00:57:36,293 Speaker 1: who is this guy? It is nice to see Teddy 1243 00:57:36,293 --> 00:57:39,133 Speaker 1: Bridgewater though we've known him since he was in college. 1244 00:57:39,613 --> 00:57:42,653 Speaker 1: And obviously the fact that he was coaching a high 1245 00:57:42,693 --> 00:57:45,573 Speaker 1: school team earlier this year and ends up playing on 1246 00:57:45,613 --> 00:57:48,533 Speaker 1: Sunday night football is a crazy story. 1247 00:57:48,693 --> 00:57:50,533 Speaker 3: Yeah, when he came in, I had no idea he 1248 00:57:50,573 --> 00:57:52,333 Speaker 3: wasn't even coaching high school. Aymo, I didn't know he 1249 00:57:52,333 --> 00:57:54,173 Speaker 3: was back in the league, and here he is Sunday 1250 00:57:54,213 --> 00:57:55,493 Speaker 3: night prime time for the Bucks. 1251 00:57:55,533 --> 00:57:57,213 Speaker 2: That was a nice plus whist there, Billy. 1252 00:57:57,333 --> 00:57:58,852 Speaker 6: Yeah, he walked right by us when we were in 1253 00:57:58,893 --> 00:58:01,733 Speaker 6: Buffalo too, so I guess we missed him in the hallway. 1254 00:58:02,013 --> 00:58:04,053 Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird because I would like to have 1255 00:58:04,053 --> 00:58:06,093 Speaker 1: said hi to him. I mean, he probably doesn't remember me, 1256 00:58:06,213 --> 00:58:08,173 Speaker 1: but I would like to have. So maybe it's good 1257 00:58:08,213 --> 00:58:10,013 Speaker 1: I didn't because it would have hurt my feelings if 1258 00:58:10,053 --> 00:58:12,932 Speaker 1: he didn't if he didn't remember. But I but it is. 1259 00:58:13,133 --> 00:58:15,532 Speaker 1: He's a very likable guy. Remember he was the one 1260 00:58:15,533 --> 00:58:19,093 Speaker 1: who bought his mom like a pink Cadillac or something 1261 00:58:19,093 --> 00:58:21,213 Speaker 1: when he got drafted. And so I've always I've always 1262 00:58:21,253 --> 00:58:22,453 Speaker 1: really liked Teddy Bridgewater. 1263 00:58:23,053 --> 00:58:24,892 Speaker 3: Then he got in trouble at high school for just 1264 00:58:24,933 --> 00:58:28,532 Speaker 3: like making sure kids had food. Yeah, because they ended 1265 00:58:28,573 --> 00:58:30,933 Speaker 3: up being in permissible benefits and He's like, I'm just 1266 00:58:30,973 --> 00:58:32,733 Speaker 3: trying to make sure that my kids don't starve. 1267 00:58:33,133 --> 00:58:37,813 Speaker 1: Only and only in in today's world, are like, stop 1268 00:58:37,893 --> 00:58:39,093 Speaker 1: giving your kids food. 1269 00:58:39,333 --> 00:58:42,733 Speaker 2: Give them two million dollars to go to college. That's 1270 00:58:42,733 --> 00:58:44,853 Speaker 2: what you're supposed to do. Do not give them food. 1271 00:58:45,253 --> 00:58:48,133 Speaker 2: Are you crazy? Yeah? 1272 00:58:48,173 --> 00:58:53,613 Speaker 1: So, overall, good day of NFL football and Billy, you 1273 00:58:53,613 --> 00:58:56,173 Speaker 1: you got your Chargers beating the Titans, so you are 1274 00:58:56,253 --> 00:58:58,453 Speaker 1: still alive in the Challenger League. 1275 00:58:58,893 --> 00:59:00,693 Speaker 2: You got six more weeks. You think you're gonna be 1276 00:59:00,693 --> 00:59:01,093 Speaker 2: able to do it. 1277 00:59:01,173 --> 00:59:02,773 Speaker 5: Yeah, Seahawks got the win today. 1278 00:59:02,933 --> 00:59:05,533 Speaker 6: Over the time, I say Charges, I'm in Seahawks over 1279 00:59:05,533 --> 00:59:07,813 Speaker 6: the tire and Titians have another game with a team 1280 00:59:07,813 --> 00:59:09,972 Speaker 6: that I haven't picked that I feel pretty confident about 1281 00:59:09,973 --> 00:59:10,613 Speaker 6: my chances. 1282 00:59:11,613 --> 00:59:14,852 Speaker 2: It's pretty rude of you, actually to always pick against me. 1283 00:59:16,173 --> 00:59:18,932 Speaker 5: I didn't even watch strategy even he was given up. 1284 00:59:19,813 --> 00:59:22,452 Speaker 1: They got one in them before the year's over. I mean, 1285 00:59:22,453 --> 00:59:24,532 Speaker 1: they were competitive today in that. 1286 00:59:24,573 --> 00:59:26,333 Speaker 5: Game they beat Arizona. 1287 00:59:26,372 --> 00:59:29,093 Speaker 3: They were I was surprised that they covered to be 1288 00:59:29,133 --> 00:59:31,253 Speaker 3: honest and kept it within six. But I think Billy's 1289 00:59:31,253 --> 00:59:33,213 Speaker 3: strategy will continue for the rest of the year, and 1290 00:59:33,253 --> 00:59:35,852 Speaker 3: I hope it does because we have the number one 1291 00:59:35,893 --> 00:59:38,093 Speaker 3: pick if we just continue to suck, and that's what 1292 00:59:38,173 --> 00:59:38,452 Speaker 3: I want. 1293 00:59:38,773 --> 00:59:41,573 Speaker 2: Panther S, forty nine Ers Monday Night? Who do you like? 1294 00:59:44,613 --> 00:59:46,653 Speaker 2: Don't make me do it? Do do? I want the 1295 00:59:46,653 --> 00:59:49,092 Speaker 2: Panthers and they are on the road. 1296 00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:51,213 Speaker 1: Are you going to pick the Panthers on the road 1297 00:59:51,333 --> 00:59:52,372 Speaker 1: in San Francisco? 1298 00:59:52,493 --> 00:59:54,933 Speaker 2: Are you going with Bryce? I'll go Bryce. 1299 00:59:55,573 --> 00:59:58,372 Speaker 3: You know last week you went out on a limb 1300 00:59:58,413 --> 01:00:01,932 Speaker 3: with Texans taking down the Bills. I'll be crazy and 1301 01:00:02,493 --> 01:00:04,573 Speaker 3: say that the Panthers pull off a upset. 1302 01:00:04,893 --> 01:00:05,093 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1303 01:00:05,093 --> 01:00:09,093 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Party or Bryce or Brock 1304 01:00:09,213 --> 01:00:14,213 Speaker 1: Jones quarterbacking. I'm not sure, but either way, I'll take 1305 01:00:14,253 --> 01:00:16,573 Speaker 1: San Francisco. As we've talked about, I think they're the 1306 01:00:16,613 --> 01:00:19,372 Speaker 1: same person. You're not gonna convince me otherwise. I can't 1307 01:00:19,413 --> 01:00:22,813 Speaker 1: tell who's who. But I do think they'll win again. 1308 01:00:23,053 --> 01:00:26,052 Speaker 1: The forty nine ers have such an easy schedule coming 1309 01:00:26,093 --> 01:00:29,013 Speaker 1: down the stretch. I don't think they're gonna catch the Rams, 1310 01:00:29,372 --> 01:00:32,173 Speaker 1: but they will probably be the top wild card seat 1311 01:00:32,253 --> 01:00:34,013 Speaker 1: unless they collapse down the stretch. 1312 01:00:35,413 --> 01:00:37,573 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that. I think they play. My Titans 1313 01:00:38,173 --> 01:00:40,813 Speaker 2: might have a game against Cleveland. Yeah, I think they 1314 01:00:40,813 --> 01:00:41,133 Speaker 2: played it. 1315 01:00:41,173 --> 01:00:43,653 Speaker 1: I think they play it's either the Titans and the 1316 01:00:43,733 --> 01:00:45,133 Speaker 1: Jets or the Titans in the Browns. 1317 01:00:45,333 --> 01:00:47,852 Speaker 3: They have two very easy games. Yeah, I count those 1318 01:00:47,893 --> 01:00:49,693 Speaker 3: as wins. And I believe you said this before the 1319 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:51,173 Speaker 3: season started. We're gonna look up at the end of 1320 01:00:51,173 --> 01:00:52,773 Speaker 3: the year and the forty nine ers just gonna a 1321 01:00:52,813 --> 01:00:54,493 Speaker 3: great record and no one's gonna believe. 1322 01:00:54,733 --> 01:00:56,253 Speaker 2: Well, and the Patriots are like that too. 1323 01:00:56,333 --> 01:01:01,213 Speaker 1: I mean, the Patriots are ten and two, but besides 1324 01:01:01,253 --> 01:01:05,493 Speaker 1: the Bills, like everybody they've beaten stinks, so like there's 1325 01:01:05,533 --> 01:01:09,573 Speaker 1: no way to know if they're really good or not so, 1326 01:01:10,293 --> 01:01:11,733 Speaker 1: and they're gonna they could be end up in the 1327 01:01:11,773 --> 01:01:14,612 Speaker 1: one seed in the in the AFC as well. 1328 01:01:14,733 --> 01:01:17,333 Speaker 3: So what is impressive about the Patriots. I agree that 1329 01:01:17,372 --> 01:01:19,333 Speaker 3: the competition had been good, but there's six and oh 1330 01:01:19,493 --> 01:01:22,293 Speaker 3: on the road in the NFL. That's impressive no matter 1331 01:01:22,293 --> 01:01:24,492 Speaker 3: who you're playing. So, even though it's not the top 1332 01:01:24,533 --> 01:01:26,613 Speaker 3: tier of what they'll see in the playoffs, winning road games, 1333 01:01:26,613 --> 01:01:29,493 Speaker 3: that has been impressive. I did like Drake May's answer 1334 01:01:29,533 --> 01:01:32,813 Speaker 3: to Steven A. Smith, like I don't watch your show. 1335 01:01:35,253 --> 01:01:38,693 Speaker 3: I did it very personally. Yeah, that was so that 1336 01:01:38,773 --> 01:01:39,133 Speaker 3: was so. 1337 01:01:39,293 --> 01:01:43,412 Speaker 1: Presumptuous of steven A to be like, you know First Take, 1338 01:01:43,933 --> 01:01:47,013 Speaker 1: you know Cam Newton's on it. I mean somebody pointed 1339 01:01:47,053 --> 01:01:51,733 Speaker 1: out First Take, which is a big sports show, but 1340 01:01:51,852 --> 01:01:58,093 Speaker 1: it has the same ratings as HGTV's Prime timeline. Can 1341 01:01:58,173 --> 01:02:02,653 Speaker 1: any one name hg TV's prime time lineup. No one 1342 01:02:02,773 --> 01:02:06,813 Speaker 1: goes up to Patrick Mahomes and go, you know, Diana 1343 01:02:06,933 --> 01:02:09,693 Speaker 1: and her trees are on HGTV at night. 1344 01:02:10,933 --> 01:02:13,492 Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I'm probably like, what are you talking about, 1345 01:02:13,533 --> 01:02:17,253 Speaker 2: steven A. I've probably seen more HUTV than First Take. 1346 01:02:17,293 --> 01:02:18,453 Speaker 2: I don't watch First Take. 1347 01:02:18,333 --> 01:02:21,412 Speaker 3: But my big thing was, you know, Stephen Drake May 1348 01:02:21,453 --> 01:02:23,972 Speaker 3: is probably pretty busy those hours that you're on TV, 1349 01:02:24,493 --> 01:02:26,892 Speaker 3: probably in a locker room, might be watching film, could 1350 01:02:26,893 --> 01:02:28,133 Speaker 3: even be active into. 1351 01:02:28,053 --> 01:02:30,453 Speaker 2: Practice at that time of day. So I don't expect 1352 01:02:30,453 --> 01:02:31,773 Speaker 2: to do I chephim embarrassed. 1353 01:02:31,813 --> 01:02:33,412 Speaker 1: Cam Newton was like, all right, man, you don't have 1354 01:02:33,453 --> 01:02:35,653 Speaker 1: to go as far like we're good, I. 1355 01:02:35,613 --> 01:02:37,972 Speaker 2: Got this pad on, I'm fine, just. 1356 01:02:37,973 --> 01:02:41,092 Speaker 3: Let me be Also, if you go back this isdn't 1357 01:02:41,093 --> 01:02:42,693 Speaker 3: you enough attension? And I know it's just a slip, 1358 01:02:42,693 --> 01:02:44,372 Speaker 3: but Steve and A said, we've been the number one 1359 01:02:44,372 --> 01:02:47,973 Speaker 3: show for twenty plus decades, thought that he meant twenty 1360 01:02:47,973 --> 01:02:48,773 Speaker 3: plus years, but. 1361 01:02:48,733 --> 01:02:50,133 Speaker 2: He said twenty plus decades. 1362 01:02:50,333 --> 01:02:53,653 Speaker 1: Yeah, he took over for John Quincy Adams, and then 1363 01:02:53,733 --> 01:02:56,133 Speaker 1: after that they've been in charge and they've been number 1364 01:02:56,133 --> 01:02:56,733 Speaker 1: one ever since. 1365 01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:58,052 Speaker 5: One thing on the Monday night game. 1366 01:02:58,613 --> 01:03:00,613 Speaker 6: Remember Panthers are six and oh when they win the 1367 01:03:00,653 --> 01:03:03,492 Speaker 6: coin toss, oh and five when they don't maybe live 1368 01:03:03,773 --> 01:03:04,893 Speaker 6: you know, will. 1369 01:03:04,693 --> 01:03:08,253 Speaker 2: You text tweet out who wins the joint toss? How 1370 01:03:08,293 --> 01:03:09,213 Speaker 2: that I know what to do? 1371 01:03:09,333 --> 01:03:11,293 Speaker 5: Live bet at Billy our Sports. 1372 01:03:11,733 --> 01:03:15,293 Speaker 1: All right, at Billy our Sports. Well, all right, folks, 1373 01:03:15,693 --> 01:03:18,813 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Enjoy your week. We will be back. 1374 01:03:18,933 --> 01:03:23,213 Speaker 1: Likes to be doing a Tuesday special Thanksgiving episode, so 1375 01:03:23,293 --> 01:03:25,372 Speaker 1: we'll be back in a couple of days to get you. 1376 01:03:25,333 --> 01:03:27,653 Speaker 2: Ready for all the big games on Thursday. This has 1377 01:03:27,653 --> 01:03:31,693 Speaker 2: been Cover zero. 1378 01:03:36,733 --> 01:03:39,333 Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is 1379 01:03:39,333 --> 01:03:42,532 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. 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