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Speaker 2: Welcome to No Bunks here on the Athletic Podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: I used to say No Bunts the show for the

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Speaker 2: casual baseball fan here on the Athletic Podcast Network. But

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Speaker 2: it's serious time in Major League Baseball. Let's playoff time.

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Speaker 2: No more casualness about this show. We're getting down with

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Speaker 2: it with me here in the Classic Factory. Is the

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Speaker 2: man making the magic happen. JD rough starts. That's all right,

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Speaker 2: It's all right, one with you get three strikes in baseball,

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Speaker 2: two left. We've got eight days left in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: It's coming. JD Playoff Baseball. The Yankees clinched the Ail

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Speaker 2: East and a win over the Blue Jays Tuesday. Former

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Speaker 2: Yankee CC Sabathia jumped on Twitter to say, what slump

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Speaker 2: bitch A couple there, and we're lucky to have on

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Speaker 2: someone who was in the building. Longtime friend of the

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Speaker 2: show because he's talk Raptors and NBA on the show,

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Speaker 2: but now his primary focus is baseball. He's a host

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Speaker 2: of the Jay's Talk plus show on the Fan five

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Speaker 2: ninety Coast of the Fan Morning show and Raptors reporter

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Speaker 2: as well. He's a busy man. Blake Murphy is here

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Speaker 2: with us. Blakey, thank you for joining.

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Speaker 3: Us, Thanks for having me. It's only fair you came

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Speaker 3: on Jay's Talk. Plus I come on at the Classic Factory.

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Speaker 1: Happy to be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm excited to talk to you because you

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Speaker 2: love baseball so fricking much. We'll get to that. Listen,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to Judge obviously in his Chase for sixty

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Speaker 2: two all the walks happening yesterday. We're going to do

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Speaker 2: some nineteen ninety two braves Jay's World Series trivia. We

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Speaker 2: also did a little of that on your show. I

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Speaker 2: mean that era of trivia, right, tell you.

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Speaker 1: I like being on that side a bit better than

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Speaker 1: being in the hot seat here. Yea, I was like

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Speaker 1: five or six years old.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We'll see how it goes. They're all meat balls sort of. Well,

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that. I had a lot of fun

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Speaker 2: doing that because that was my series, putting those questions together.

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Speaker 2: But we'll get to that. But first, it was Looney

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Speaker 2: hot Dog Day yesterday at the Rogers Center a dollar

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Speaker 2: per hot dog. So how many hot dogs did you consume? Blake?

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Speaker 3: So my answer to this is actually zero, And I'll

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Speaker 3: tell you why so I went with I went to

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Speaker 3: the game with my buddy fab who's a lifelong Yankees fan,

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Speaker 3: and he rolls up with a full pizza because you

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Speaker 3: showed up with an extra large pizza for us to share.

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Speaker 3: So I had no need for the looney dogs. I

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Speaker 1: So I was very worried for a looney dog day,

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Speaker 2: Everyone just having you know, Wieners, Yeah, exactly, broad dog

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Speaker 2: you for not holding back like I did. I said,

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Speaker 2: Wieners want to Rod Doggett. But thank you for bringing

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Speaker 2: the heat. Yeah. Were there forty thousand just people just

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Speaker 2: holding wieners yesterday? No hot dog buns.

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Speaker 3: Stry to be off Sports that has been tracking it

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Speaker 3: that gives him the numbers each time. Yeah, fifty thousand

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Speaker 3: crunched numbers based on the attendance, you would have needed

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Speaker 3: One point two to three is not a lot of

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Speaker 2: But Matt, and you have people like your friend coming

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Speaker 2: in with their own foods. That's phenomenal. Number one, that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little known thing about Rogers, and once

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Speaker 2: It's quite clear he did have some pitches to hit yesterday,

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Speaker 2: He was intentionally walked the night before in extras. But

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Speaker 2: I know you appreciate playing by the percentages. You just

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Speaker 3: I was okay with it on Monday's game. So the

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Speaker 1: He can really drive. Judge is elite at that.

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Speaker 2: This is not a lock anymore. Those three tickets that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he will get it for sure.

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Speaker 1: Let him come in and get crushed by Aaron Judge.

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Speaker 3: Hoping for the at least the tire, but in a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up the Rangers four games there. God,

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Speaker 2: I hope we see a glen Otto. What a great

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Speaker 3: And part of that is that, I mean you've been

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Speaker 2: As you said, you've got shy DAVIDI giving you the

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Speaker 3: I would think, you know, that's something that the Jays

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Speaker 1: They earn that. You know, they'll probably be worse for

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Speaker 1: The Yankees get to do that.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that.

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Speaker 3: You know, the basketball world is great for all the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Vladdie seemed like he was borrowing the this is

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Speaker 2: let's get to that playoff picture, because as of right now,

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Speaker 2: They would host the race and if they won that

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Speaker 2: They would play the Astros in the NL to the Alds.

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Speaker 2: I just thinking way too far ahead? Do you take

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Speaker 1: So my answer is, you know, if you could pick

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Speaker 3: Bay or Seattle. They have really feasted on playing in

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Speaker 3: But the remarkable thing is how few games Cleveland had.

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Speaker 3: They've only played forty four games against teams above five hundred.

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Speaker 3: The Jays have played eighty four. So in terms of

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Speaker 3: That's the team I would want to face. You look

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Speaker 3: So Cleveland is the for my money, the worst of

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Speaker 3: The reality though, is like you can't You're out of

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Speaker 3: That way you can avoid this while do you pitch

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Speaker 3: that conversation is a little bit ridiculous. I don't want

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Speaker 1: So go for home field. That's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I am somewhat intrigued by watching the Guardians in

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Speaker 2: But the question for me win the Jays. Let's be honest,

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Speaker 2: You might be working, but but yeah, which one are

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Speaker 3: This is honestly, it's a question above my pay grade.

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Speaker 3: Jay's tickets went on sale today postseason tickets to the public.

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Speaker 3: I have not purchased any yet because until we have

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Speaker 3: Worst case scenario, the games don't matter as much and

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Speaker 3: Twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen going to some of those

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Speaker 3: Like there have been a couple of times I just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're always helping out. I didn't mean to

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Speaker 1: Corner at all. I am nothing but genuine. If my

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Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing yet, and they should

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Speaker 2: I'm stillbergasted by the whole bring your food into the

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Speaker 2: they don't milk every dollar out of fans and prohibit

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not only the rest, like if it were

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Speaker 3: right that. The Yankees are at ninety five wins right now,

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Speaker 3: The Astros and Dodgers are well ahead of everyone, But

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Speaker 3: day between starts, I'd rather deal with that than you know, Hey,

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Speaker 3: one one bad Bobaschet throw or one seeing eye single

437
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 3: ends your season. When on merit it shouldn't give me,

438
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,199
Speaker 3: give me the rest and the more certainty of a

439
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Speaker 3: longer playoff for run.

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Speaker 2: Oh, you are so right with those numbers. You break

441
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Speaker 2: down those numbers. Even the Dodgers, they've lost thirty percent

442
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 2: of the time. They're the favorite. They're clearly the favorite.

443
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 2: They're so good. But as you said, you want to

444
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Speaker 2: play less baseball if you want to have fewer series,

445
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Speaker 2: four series versus three series, simple as that, you take

446
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Speaker 2: the three series. So that's good. You broke it down there.

447
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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. I just thought it

448
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,159
Speaker 2: was the rest thing, but yeah, you're right. I mean,

449
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 2: the coin flip thing is a huge part of it.

450
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Speaker 2: I just want to talk briefly about Bobashet, a favorite

451
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Speaker 2: of so many, so many people, including myself. Watching him,

452
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Speaker 2: even though he had a bad one yesterday, is fun

453
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Speaker 2: watching him get down in the count and then just

454
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Speaker 2: battle foul pitches off. My first question about Bobashitt. Do

455
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Speaker 2: you like Bobaschet's style at the plate? Do you like

456
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Speaker 2: his disposition, his plan at the plate? He shime he

457
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 2: goes up lately.

458
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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So this was a kind of a constant talking point

460
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Speaker 3: for my show early in the year, where when Bobaschet struggles,

461
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Speaker 3: it can look worse than when other players struggle, I think,

462
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 3: because part of what makes him so good is that

463
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 3: he's really really aggressive early in counts, and part of

464
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Speaker 3: that is he goes up there with a plan and

465
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 3: he wants to stick to it. But part of it

466
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,359
Speaker 3: is also that makes a picture really uncomfortable if you

467
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Speaker 3: know that if you try to get a strike over,

468
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,639
Speaker 3: like every pitcher wants to start account oh one and

469
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: get a strikeover. That's why the board of Rogers Center

470
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: will have first pitch strikes on the pitcher's line and

471
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Speaker 3: things like that. Bobashek can make you really uncomfortable because

472
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Speaker 3: you know he's gonna jump on stuff early. But when

473
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Speaker 3: he's not going well, when he's not seeing pitches as well,

474
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Speaker 3: or the swing mechanics are just off a little bit,

475
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Speaker 3: that's a lot of O two holes. And there's nothing

476
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Speaker 3: baseball fans dislike more than a guy who has a

477
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Speaker 3: three pitch at bat and you know, has to put

478
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Speaker 3: a week one in play oh two or something like that.

479
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: So when Bo's not going, that's there. I would say

480
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Speaker 3: since maybe the start of August, his plan at the

481
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: plate and his approach has improved dramatically, and some of

482
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Speaker 3: that is he made a bit of a mechanical tweak.

483
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Speaker 3: There's a guy named Estebon Rivera at Fangrafts who wrote

484
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Speaker 3: about it this week, and you can you know, I

485
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Speaker 3: don't know the swing mechanics stuff as detailed to go

486
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: into it as he did, but you can go and

487
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Speaker 3: you can look at some videos of how he changed

488
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Speaker 3: his approach and how that lets his bats stay in

489
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Speaker 3: the zone a little bit longer and more balanced. But

490
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Speaker 3: then some of the stuff that I can understand a

491
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 3: little better is you look at what pitches is he

492
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Speaker 3: not swinging at anymore? And what pitches is he swinging at?

493
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Speaker 3: And bo is so good at if a pitcher leaves

494
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Speaker 3: something just too much meat of the plate, he is

495
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Speaker 3: all over it. And he has that great swing. I mean,

496
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Speaker 3: his swing is beautiful first of all, but he has

497
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Speaker 3: that nice long swing even though he has great batspeed too,

498
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Speaker 3: where he can approach it where like, Okay, I'm gonna

499
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Speaker 3: be on a fastball and if it's a fastball, my

500
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,200
Speaker 3: swing is gonna be time nicely to pull that thing.

501
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Speaker 3: But because I cover so much of the plate and

502
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,679
Speaker 3: I'm so good at adjusting, if it's a breaking ball. Well,

503
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Speaker 3: I'm going to be nice and early on that, and

504
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Speaker 3: I'm going to identify quickly enough to put it the

505
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Speaker 3: other way. So when you see bow power to all fields.

506
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Speaker 3: There was that game he had three home runs. One

507
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 3: went the left, one went to center, one went the right.

508
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 3: That is obviously a three home run game is perfect anyway,

509
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Speaker 3: But that to me is the quintessential. Oh Bo's locked

510
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 3: in because he can pull for power, he can go

511
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Speaker 3: the other way for power. And then yeah, you mentioned

512
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Speaker 3: some of the plate appearances where he's fouling stuff off.

513
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Speaker 3: He is so elite when it comes to back to

514
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 3: ball skill and like just hand eye coordination and things

515
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 3: like that. Yeah, if he it's one thing to do

516
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 3: with oh two, Like, you're probably not going to be

517
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Speaker 3: able to fight your way back in account very often.

518
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: But if you're two two three two and you're just

519
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: staying alive until the pitcher gives you one of those mistakes,

520
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 3: He's he's been awesome for like two months now. Can't

521
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: say enough about And like, I don't think these are

522
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Speaker 3: easy changes to make on the fly when you're what

523
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Speaker 3: twenty twenty four years old and you've never really had

524
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 3: to make big adjustments before because you've had success with

525
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Speaker 3: that approach. So I'm pretty over the moon happy with

526
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Speaker 3: the way BOS turned to season round.

527
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Speaker 2: I wonder why Baseball, the R and D people, how

528
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,680
Speaker 2: players are sort of built in labs that there hasn't

529
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: been a player that's just one, a player that's meant

530
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,399
Speaker 2: to foul off pitches like he's just he just built

531
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Speaker 2: to get in the box and get a starting pitcher

532
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Speaker 2: out of the game and just you know, foul off

533
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Speaker 2: like fifteen pitches. If that could be.

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Speaker 1: Done, it's it's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 3: And last I checked, I don't have the numbers handy

536
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Speaker 3: right now, but there was a point in the season

537
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Speaker 3: where I looked on you can look on stack cast

538
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: on Baseball savon. You can find anything on there, obviously,

539
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Speaker 3: but you could sort just by who has fouled the

540
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Speaker 3: most balls off, and it was Bobasheed at that point. Now,

541
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Speaker 3: he hadn't seen the most pitches because you know, he

542
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 3: he does play aggressive early in the count things like that.

543
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: Even the league leaders in pitches per played appearance only

544
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 3: see about four point three per played appearance.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think a guy.

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Speaker 3: Who could you know, first of all, you need to

547
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Speaker 3: have like Vigio levels to take balls and judge the

548
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: strike zone. Then you'd need like Bashett level of ability

549
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 3: to foul it off and stay alive. And then you

550
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,640
Speaker 3: would also need some other mental component where a guy

551
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Speaker 3: doesn't want to get a hit and he's okay just

552
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 3: because like, if you were good enough to foul everything off,

553
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: you're probably good enough to hit like two seventy five

554
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 3: or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So I think the hardest part.

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Speaker 3: Would be convincing that guy to foul pitches off instead

557
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: of getting hits.

558
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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I look at the playoff picture, the Jays

559
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 2: holding on to that wild card spot is a race.

560
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: It's important to the home court or the home field.

561
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: Home court, the home field wild card spot is important,

562
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Speaker 2: But that's essentially it. When it comes to the al

563
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: playoff picture, we got the Braves and the Mets essentially tied.

564
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 2: Tiebreaker goes to the Mets, but essentially tied to top

565
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Speaker 2: the NL East. And then you've got the Phillies Brewers

566
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Speaker 2: fighting for that last wild card spot. But those are dwindling.

567
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Speaker 2: The races are sort of dwindling. I mentioned that because

568
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 2: I'm a little scared. I'm a little scared looking at

569
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Speaker 2: the playoff picture of the Rays for the Blue Jays,

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Speaker 2: I've got them written down as the Tampa Bay Demons because,

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Speaker 2: as you said earlier, it just feels that way, especially

572
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: going to Troup. But now that looks like it will

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00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 2: it will happen in the Rogers Center. They just split

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Speaker 2: against Tampa. Does that split help slay the demons for

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Speaker 2: the Blue Jays?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it hurts certainly.

577
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Speaker 3: You know, my my concerns with the Rays are much

578
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: more about being on the road at Tropicana than they

579
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: are just the Rays in general. But there's also this

580
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Speaker 3: element of like, and there's not a great basketball equivalent,

581
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: but you know how the Pistons always beat the Raptors.

582
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: Now there's an element of that where like you just

583
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: assume the Rays are going to figure some stuff out

584
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and be more dangerous than they should be.

585
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: And that's not like that upsets the analytical side of me,

586
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, the Rays are an average offense

587
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: and by most they're the worst of the AL playoff teams,

588
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 3: or at least comparable to Cleveland, and they only really

589
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: have like obviously they have a million guys that can

590
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 3: pitch two three four innings. But after McClanahan, there's not

591
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 3: a ton of like, oh, this guy's approven front end starter.

592
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 3: Even Kluber is like at the back of their rotation now,

593
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: So on paper, the Rays shouldn't be that scary, but

594
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 3: then you look and it's like, oh, yeah, well, Randy

595
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 3: rose Areno would hit five home runs over a three

596
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 3: game series, and you know Jonathan Rondo will have a

597
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: big moment or or pick your guy like Garrett Cleveinger

598
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 3: will have a huge relief appearance or something. There's just

599
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 3: that weird raised nous, Like you know when whenever the

600
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Spurs draft someone, you immediately be like, ah, shoot, someone

601
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 3: else should have taken him. If the Spurs like that guy,

602
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 3: there must be something to him, you know, the Keldon

603
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: Johnson thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's an element of that with the Rays.

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Speaker 3: For me, in the playoffs where I think the Mariners

606
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: are a better team, I kind of think I'd rather

607
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 3: play the Mariners if it's at Rogers Center.

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Speaker 2: They've out of an outfielder by the name of Jose Siri.

609
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: For people who don't know the Rays, yeah, they'll come

610
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 2: at you with with their iPhone technology. You never know,

611
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean they have some as as I've

612
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 2: heard on the Athletic MLB Show, so some holes in

613
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,719
Speaker 2: their lineup. But as he said, anything can happen in baseball,

614
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: and a five game set, in a three game set

615
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 2: that they would be lined up for, yeah, anything can

616
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: can happen. The Jay's obviously have been looking for a

617
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Speaker 2: third pitcher if they if they do get into a

618
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: longer set, and it's extremely important when it comes to

619
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Speaker 2: the postseason. When we get to the ninety two World

620
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: Series trivia, we'll see how important it was back then.

621
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Speaker 2: That's a hint for you. But when I came onto

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Speaker 2: Jay's Talk Plus a couple months ago, we were discussing

623
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Speaker 2: who could be that third guy behind Gossman and Manoa.

624
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Speaker 2: Have the Jays found that guy?

625
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 3: So on merit, it's Ross Stripling. Stripling has had a

626
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Speaker 3: better season than Jose Brios heard pretty much every question

627
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 3: about can this guy stick in a major league rotation?

628
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 3: Three sixteen ERA on the year, and I think it's

629
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: it's right at three or just under three if you

630
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: look at only the games he started, had one bad

631
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Speaker 3: start a couple starts ago, and then got right back

632
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: to being ross stripling. So seven of his last eight

633
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 3: starts since he came off the IL have been really

634
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: good starts. The one question that I would have now

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Speaker 3: if we're talking the five game series, in the seven

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Speaker 3: game series later in the playoffs, Stripling would be my

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Speaker 3: number three and Barrios spots in if and when you

638
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 3: need a fourth guy in a wild card series, though,

639
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: I might be tempted to start Jose Barrios over Stripling,

640
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Speaker 3: just because Stripling has that experience coming out of the

641
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: bullpen and being a long man out of the bullpen.

642
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: Barrios has only come out of the bullpen once in

643
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Speaker 3: his major league career, and it was in twenty seventeen.

644
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Speaker 3: So starting Barrios hoping he gets you three four good

645
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: innings and then going to Stripling, to me, is more

646
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: realistic than starting Stripling, and if things don't go well,

647
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: you got to go to Brios out of the bullpen.

648
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 3: So you know, a Game three in a wildcard series

649
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: is one of those last game of the season. Can't

650
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 3: hold anything back things to use the water Boy reference.

651
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Speaker 3: But yeah, so I'd be a little torn on that.

652
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 3: I'd be okay if they just started Stripling and said

653
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: he's been better, we're gonna go with him and if

654
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, we'll go to the bullpen. But I

655
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 3: would understand as well, we'll let Brios once through the

656
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 3: order and then after that, you know, we'll go to

657
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 3: stripling and that'll be our kind of piggyback plan for

658
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: that game.

659
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: All right, last question before we get to the World

660
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 2: Series trivia, which are you going to do great on

661
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: taking it off the field here for sec Because you've

662
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 2: covered basketball primarily for a long time and this is

663
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: your first year on the Jays beat primarily. What's been

664
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 2: the thing that surprised you the most, if there's anything

665
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: since you've moved to baseball full time.

666
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there are.

667
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 3: You know, I had some curiosities and I've always been

668
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 3: a big baseball fan, and back before I was like

669
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 3: really established on Raptors, I did a lot of baseball

670
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 3: riding as well, but I had never been like around

671
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 3: a team every day or on the beat every day,

672
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: and I had a lot of curiosities about how different

673
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty two game sport is than an

674
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 3: eighty two game sport. And I think the thing that

675
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: surprised me the most is that when you talk to

676
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 3: players or coaches or front offices, even media around baseball,

677
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: and that's not universal for everyone, but the ability of

678
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: the key players there to kind of stay above the

679
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: day to day noise and keep the focus on the

680
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: bigger picture and not you know, you have a five

681
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: game losing streak, not panic, not make changes that are

682
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 3: maybe overreactionary if you're a hitter, sticking to your process

683
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: and if you you know, if you're hitting balls hard,

684
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: Matt Chapman's a great example, roping balls into gloves the

685
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: whole first quarter of the season before it really turned

686
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 3: around for them, if your gosman and every ball in

687
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: play is falling in sticking to your plan anyway, the

688
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,439
Speaker 3: ability of players and coaches to stick to that kind

689
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 3: of long view. And maybe that's not the case if

690
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,240
Speaker 3: you're a team like you know, the Brewers and Phillies

691
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: right now fighting for their playoff lives, where the Jays

692
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 3: have a little bit more room for error here, But

693
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: in general, the ability of the sport and the people

694
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 3: in it to take a breath and not be so

695
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 3: up and down day to day like we are in

696
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 3: other sports, because it would exhaust you in baseball. But

697
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what that was gonna be like I

698
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 3: wasn't sure what it was gonna be like for me,

699
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 3: for the listenership and fan base with the players and coaches.

700
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: And stuff like that.

701
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: So that's probably been my biggest takeaway is that there's

702
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: a everyone seems to have a pretty good handle that

703
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: they're playing a sport that requires some real mental endurance.

704
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 2: All right, it's a good answer. Thank you for sharing that.

705
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: I appreciate. It makes sense too, as you explained it,

706
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: because it is true. It's it's just when you go

707
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: in and enjoy a baseball game. It's you don't. Yeah,

708
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 2: you don't get on the highs and the lows the

709
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 2: same way you you should ride it out. As you said,

710
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 2: it's nearing the thirty year anniversary of the World Series

711
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 2: between the Toronto Blue Jays and the Atlanta Braves. That

712
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 2: was my first sports championship that I experienced as a

713
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: true fan. I know is big for YouTube, Blake, even

714
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 2: though you were six years old. So let's do some

715
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: ninety two World Series trivia, right, We're going back nineteen

716
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: ninety two Atlanta Braves Toronto Blue Jays trivia. I'm gonna

717
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: give you multiple choice, Blake, just to soften the blow

718
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: a little bit. So let's start with the first one,

719
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 2: and we're gonna start right off the top. In Game one,

720
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 2: which Atlanta Brave hit a home run that produced all

721
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 2: the runs Atlanta would need to win the opener from

722
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 2: the Toronto Blue Jays. Was it a Dion Sanders? Was

723
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: it b Terry Pendleton? Was it c Lonnie Smith or

724
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 2: was it d Damon berry Hill?

725
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: So I know it was off of Jack Morris because

726
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 3: Jack Morris started the first game. Yes, you're correct, I'm

727
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: gonna say Barry Hill because I feel like I would

728
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 3: remember it more if it were Pendleton or Deion Sanders.

729
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: Boom out of the park, baby, Jack Morris lifted that leg,

730
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: delivered to lefty Damon berry Hill, and he took it yard, which, yeah,

731
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: under the raid, that's a good way of thinking about it.

732
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,439
Speaker 2: Pendleton or Sanders, Yeah, you would probably remember that one more.

733
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: And I had already forgot who the other options.

734
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, Smith is probably in the same in the

735
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: Danny Damon berry Hill category. But yeah, Barry Hill only

736
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 2: forty seven career home runs over a ten year career

737
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: and ended up yanking that one off Jack Morris. Three runs.

738
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: Was the catcher he was their catcher. Yeah, yeah, he

739
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: he took over that season. I forget the the other catcher,

740
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 2: but he wasn't the starting catcher at the beginning of

741
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: the year, but he took over, and uh, it was Yeah,

742
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: that was a gut punch for me. Greg Olsen was

743
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 2: their their other catcher, and then it was a gut

744
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 2: punch because I just I just thought if this guy's

745
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: hitting home runs were screwed, our ace just got plowed.

746
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: But things picked up in Game two, and that's where

747
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: we go for our second question. Things look bad going

748
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: into the ninth inning. Jays were down four to three

749
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: in the top of the ninth, but a Blue Jay

750
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: hit a two run blast to take the late lead

751
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 2: and the Jays would go on to win that game.

752
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: I see you not away. Who hit that homer? Was

753
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: it a Roberto Alomar? Was it b World Series MVP

754
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: Pat Borders? Was it c Ed Sprague or was it

755
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: d Joe Carter?

756
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: That one is c Ed Sprague. That's that's on the

757
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: VHS tapes, that's in the highlight reel. I'm pretty pretty

758
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: confident that one's Sprague.

759
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 2: You are correct, Yeah, it was a pinch hit homer

760
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: as well. First pitch swinging Ed Sprague as as just

761
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,239
Speaker 2: while it seemed like they were going to go down

762
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: two to oh, but not only was it right.

763
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: Sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but I

764
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, pinch hit and then yeah,

765
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: that makes total sense because they would have been on

766
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 3: the road to start that series, right, so you had

767
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: your I was trying to think, like, who would you

768
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 3: have pinched it for?

769
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 1: But there was no DH for those first couple of games.

770
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, he pinched it in the eight hole. Oh, I'm sorry.

771
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 2: He pinched it in the nine hole for the pitcher,

772
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: but the hitter before him A little bonus question here

773
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,839
Speaker 2: was also pinch hitter, and he walked to set the

774
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 2: stage for Ed Spragge's to run homers. So an incredible,

775
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: incredible it went. Borders got out to start the inning,

776
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: and then this player walked before Sprague's home run. So

777
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 2: do you remember the player who walked? I'm not giving

778
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 2: you multiple choices. It's tough.

779
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess Candy Maldonado because I don't think he

780
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: was like an everyday starter, but that might be. That's

781
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 3: the only bench guy I can guess off the top.

782
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Of my head.

783
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 2: Good guess No, it was Derek Bell, fourth outfielder. He's

784
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 2: probably most well known for a prank that the Jays

785
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 2: pulled on him. Do we have the clip? JD. Yeah,

786
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,280
Speaker 2: the last game of the ninety two season, Joe Carter

787
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: drove Derek Bell's truck onto the field in pretending to

788
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 2: be giving it away in a promotion, and Derek Bell

789
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: just didn't know what was going on. It was fena.

790
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: He's essentially a rookie in the in the bigs, and

791
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: it was amazing. The jay'son already clinched. These are the

792
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 2: these are the good, good old days.

793
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: Oh man, the look on his face.

794
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 2: It is phenomenal. All right? Moving on, uh to the

795
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,760
Speaker 2: next one. Yeah, there it is if you're watching on YouTube.

796
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: Great stuff. Next one, who did d Spread hit that

797
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 2: homer off of? Was it a Mark Wohlers, B, Jeff Reardon, C.

798
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: Mike Stanton or D Steve Avery? You remember what that

799
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: VHS tape was telling you?

800
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: Blake, No, I know.

801
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: So they were like kind of not like twenty fifteen

802
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 3: Royals ish, but.

803
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: A little bit. They had a lot of relievers they

804
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: would lean on.

805
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say, Mike Stanton, I want to say he

806
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: got the most save opportunities, but they had like a.

807
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: Couple guys closing at that point, so it could have

808
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,920
Speaker 1: been anyone. I'm gonna go with, Stanton.

809
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 2: I threw in this one. It was tough. Sorry it

810
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: was You don't need to apologize. No, it was a

811
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 2: tough one. Wanted in as many questions as possible. It

812
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: wasn't in there to start, but I wanted to throw

813
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 2: it in there because it was a rough couple of

814
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 2: games for Jeff Riard and so he got he led

815
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: up that homer and then he came on to face

816
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: one batter in the ninth inning of Game three, which

817
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: was Candy Maldonado. After a bunch of guys pitch. As

818
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: you said, they had a bunch of guys come in.

819
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: Jeff Rudon came in for one guy to try and

820
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: get Candy Maldonado out with one one out infield in

821
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: but Maldonado smacked it over everybody for a winning single.

822
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: Jeffriardon exposed legend. Oh yeah, maybe he was a sleeper

823
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: agent the whole time and they just like activated him

824
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: for that series, like hey, we want you to play

825
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: stay in the n L.

826
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 3: But if it comes to it, we need you to

827
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: help bring a World Series to Canada.

828
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: Very well done, forgotten, forgotten xpoll for me, Jeff Ruden,

829
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: good one. Okay? Moving on Game three, one of the

830
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: best World Series catches of all time, Devon White running

831
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: into the wall. It should have been a triple play

832
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: because they doubled off Pendleton off first, and then there

833
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 2: was a rundown between second and third. Kelly Grober dove

834
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: hit the heel of an Atlanta Brave player, but he

835
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 2: was called safe by the umpire there. Who was that

836
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: runner that Kelly Gruber tagged? Was it a David Justice,

837
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: B Lonnie Smith, C Jeff Blausser. I just wanted to

838
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 2: say that name. It's not Jeff Blauser or d Dion Sanders.

839
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna this again.

840
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: This is not what I remember, but trying to do

841
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 3: said I'm gonna say Lonnie Smith because he's come up

842
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 3: in a couple questions.

843
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 2: Now, no, say that one for later. It was Dion Sanderson.

844
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: Was just two fast.

845
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: You feel like I should remember that better?

846
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you remember Gruber yelling at the at the

847
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 2: Referrera at the Empire. I'm sure all right? Moving on

848
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: Game three, This is what I was referencing earlier in

849
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: the show about your third pitcher so important, and this

850
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 2: was extremely important. Game three, both starting pitchers went eight

851
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: innings wild. That's a that's a throw.

852
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 1: Were allowed to do that?

853
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 5: Now?

854
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, it was crazy looking through these box scores

855
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: because it happened over and over. Can you name both pitchers?

856
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 2: I'll give you combined options here. What were they? Steve

857
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 2: Avery and one Goozman, Steve Avery and Jimmy Key, Charlie

858
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 2: Lee Brandt and Wan Goozman or Charlie Lee Brandt and

859
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy Key.

860
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: So it's definitely one Gooman.

861
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: You're right about that. So Avery or Lebrandt to go

862
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: along with Guzman.

863
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say Avery bang.

864
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 2: Okay, big Game three performance from well both one Guzman

865
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,479
Speaker 2: and Steve Avery going eight innings wild. All right? Moving

866
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: on to game five, I wonder.

867
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: If game did we skip game four?

868
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're skipping game four. Okay, Yeah, they got the

869
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 2: job done. That's that's one though. Nothing extremely revelatory. Yeah,

870
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: pap Borders did think hit the solo blast in that one.

871
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 2: It's funny because pap Bords isn't really involved in a

872
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: lot of these questions. But he went on to win

873
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: MVP just because he was hot hitting the ball. But

874
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: he did hit he did hit a big solo home run. Yeah,

875
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: we're skipping game four, they're up three to one. The

876
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: Blue Jays are in Game five. Who hit the fifth

877
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: inning grand slam off Jack Morris that put the Braves

878
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 2: ahead seven to two?

879
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can give that one. Was that one was

880
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: Lonnie Smith? Then?

881
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 5: Right?

882
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 2: You hit it out of the park, that's right.

883
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of handed me that one with telling

884
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: me Lonnie Smith was going to be an answer at

885
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: some point.

886
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did. I mean that one's a memorable

887
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,760
Speaker 2: one grand slam in the World Series, don't. I don't

888
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 2: see that too often? But yeah, off Jack Morris, who

889
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 2: lost two games that series.

890
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say he had a he had

891
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: a rough.

892
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 2: Go coming off that World Series MVP with the Twins

893
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 2: the year before, which he pitched like that ten inning

894
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: seventh game seven, Right, that was wild. So the Jay's

895
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: hired gun right there going to get him. But he

896
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,399
Speaker 2: was all in three in the playoffs and lost both

897
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 2: games in the World Series and they were still able

898
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: to win. You had a seven forty three er in

899
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,839
Speaker 2: the postseason, but they had a hired another hired gun

900
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: in David Cone that solidified things and then Goozman and

901
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: Jimmy Key. Lonnie Smith won three World Series in the eighties.

902
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: Didn't realize that as I as I did my research.

903
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 2: Here a few more Blakie, because you're rocking it. We

904
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: know how Game six ended. In the eleventh inning, Nixon

905
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 2: buns Timlin's on it throws to first. Mike Timlin got

906
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: to say, but what blue jay pitcher picked up the

907
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: series winning win in Game six? Was it Dave step,

908
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 2: Jimmy Key, David Wells or David Cone.

909
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be Key because that was kind of

910
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: the thing of like, oh well he's coming out of

911
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: the bullpen now, like him being that swingman dual role

912
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: thing was like that was a big, a big part

913
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: of that story. So I'm gonna go with Jimmy.

914
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 2: Key, money, money in the bank. You're six years old

915
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: and you remember that I was sleeping through Jimmy Key's inn.

916
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: I I don't remember it like from that. I remember

917
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 3: from I've watched those World Series highlights a million times,

918
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 3: and I think I think even during the pandemic, they

919
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: were like replaying those games on TV or something like

920
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 3: that because there were no sports.

921
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, I was. Yeah, it is interesting. He started

922
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: Game four and had an inning and a third key

923
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 2: key moment there where Tom Hanky blew the save and

924
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: then he came in to Yeah, as a singer.

925
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 3: And that's only a that's only like a three day

926
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 3: turnaround to come out of the bullpen.

927
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: That's like David Price style.

928
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, that's a that's a good point, all right.

929
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: Two more questions. The winning hit in that game? Who

930
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: drove in the game winning runs in the eleventh inning

931
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 2: of games for the Blue Jays with a big double?

932
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: Was it a Joe Carter, b Kelly Gruber, c Roberto

933
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: Alamar or d Dave Winfield?

934
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: Dave Winfield.

935
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: All he does is Winfield, Dave Winfield, a big bat,

936
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: another hired gun the DH that season. You remember that

937
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: as well. You remember it all.

938
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: Now. I've got a couple of these wrong.

939
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,840
Speaker 2: Nah, you're on fire. Last one. You're gonna get this

940
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 2: one wrong. Nah, We'll see, we'll see. This is we're

941
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: going off the field. We're going to the Olympics.

942
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 5: Oh.

943
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: Ed Sprague's wife. This was a story back then Kristen

944
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: bab Sprague was an Olympic gold medalist that same year,

945
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety two. And what event did she win

946
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: gold for the USA? Was it a fencing? Was it

947
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: B ten foot diving? Was it C handball? Or was

948
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 2: it d sing chronized swimming?

949
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: Geez?

950
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 3: I don't even I'm trying to like come up with

951
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 3: like tricky ways to figure this out. And like, I

952
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: don't know where ed Sprague went to college, and I

953
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: don't know what colleges have good synchronized swimming systems or whatever.

954
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with. You said diving was one.

955
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: Of the options.

956
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: Okay, I'll go with I'll go with diving as much

957
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 3: as synchronized swimming is funnier to me.

958
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll go with diving.

959
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: Ah, you're right to be in the pool. But it

960
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 2: was synchronized swimming.

961
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,759
Speaker 1: Geez? What was her name again? I want to I

962
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: want to look.

963
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: This up, Kristen bab Sprague.

964
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 4: And is there even a event ten foot diving? Wouldn't

965
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 4: it be ten meter or five meter diving?

966
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 2: Free?

967
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 5: Oh?

968
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: Interesting, mister metric.

969
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 4: Oh, I would have I would assume that I don't

970
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 4: think that's a thing, so that that would have that

971
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 4: was you know, I.

972
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,359
Speaker 3: Guess, yeah, ten feet off the diving board is not

973
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: a not a lot.

974
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 1: Now then I picture it. That's yeah, you're right, you're

975
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: a friend with the cool pool with a high diving board.

976
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 3: That's like you could do like a Jeff Hardy swanton

977
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: bomb as your ten foot dive.

978
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what the judges will score.

979
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, I'm just to confirm, but I yeah, I

980
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 2: was coming up with this in my bed about five

981
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: thirty am this morning, and that was that was what

982
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:29,919
Speaker 2: came to me as an event. I went ten foot

983
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 2: but ten meters. You're right, You're right, jd It's it's

984
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 2: ten meters. So yeah, that was a trick. I threw

985
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: that in there on purpose. But yeah, Kristin babs right, Yeah,

986
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 2: that was a story that year because it was in Barcelona.

987
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 2: She won. What I don't talk about things I got

988
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 2: wrong here with the Olympics. Apparently the event is women's solo.

989
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: It's a synchronized swimming, but women's solo. I'm not I

990
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 2: don't understand.

991
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: Who were you synchronized?

992
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, the dive diving off ten feet in the other pool,

993
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea. Anyways, that was a big deal.

994
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 2: I think because Sylvia Fraschett, if you remember that, a

995
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Canadian name was involved in that. But that's it. Kristen

996
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: bab Sprague the answer there. So thank you so much, Blakey.

997
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 2: I appreciate you doing that with me. That was a

998
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: lot of fun. Ninety two World Series trivia, Baby, that

999
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. We'll let you go, sir,

1000
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 2: But can you tell the people where they can find

1001
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 2: your work?

1002
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 3: Well, first, they can find me right back in this spot.

1003
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 3: Next year we'll do ninety three trivia since this is

1004
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 3: the thirtieth anniversary.

1005
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 2: Next year.

1006
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: So throughout the playoffs, Jay's TalkPlus on Sports A five

1007
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 3: ninety the Fan or wherever you get your podcasts, it's

1008
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,280
Speaker 3: the podcast feed is Blue Jays Talk. Don't know specifically

1009
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 3: until we get a playoff schedule what that'll look like,

1010
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 3: but it's three to five every day right now, and

1011
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,319
Speaker 3: we're going to two to five next week.

1012
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: We're expanding for the playoff.

1013
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 3: Push that stuff out, and then yeah, come basketball season,

1014
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 3: I'll be I'll be doing something raptors.

1015
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 2: I think you should take a photo of each game

1016
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: that you're at the Rogers Center this postseason with your food. Now,

1017
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: because I'm curious what you're eating, uh, in every every game,

1018
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: And I'm curious, yeah, whether you bring it in. Are

1019
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 2: you a big food eater at the game or you're

1020
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: just a working man?

1021
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 3: No, I mean like on a on a baseball day,

1022
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 3: you're there long enough that you you need to eat

1023
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 3: something and the media meals. I mean, you've been as

1024
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 3: media for NBA before, Like they're they're a little hit

1025
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 3: and miss, they're they're up and down. So I'm a like,

1026
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 3: keep some trail mix and a granola bar in my

1027
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 3: backpack just in case.

1028
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 5: Guy.

1029
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Uh, But also like, would it shock anyone if I

1030
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: rolled up and I had Bulkbarn bags for media row? No,

1031
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't think that would surprise anyone here.

1032
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: Bulkbarn beauty, beauty Canadian advertising.

1033
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 1: Who am I? That's uh, that's not like me.

1034
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. No charity to corporations. All right, Blake,

1035
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 2: really appreciate you coming on, man, thanks a lot. Thanks

1036
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 2: for having me, guys, the great Blake Murphy dropping a

1037
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 2: lot of information there about the Blue Jays the playoff race.

1038
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 2: That was a lot of fun. We're done here. The

1039
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,320
Speaker 2: next No Bunts will be the day after the regular

1040
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: season the morning of October sixth, setting up the wild

1041
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: Card round because the season is ending on October fifth,

1042
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: and as I said, no more casualness about this show.

1043
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 2: We're getting into the nitty gritty. We're gonna be watching

1044
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: a lot of playoff baseball. Maybe well, I had a

1045
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 2: little watch party because I'll be watching at night. Get

1046
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: people on watching as well. Make sure you check out

1047
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 2: our other shows. This week, we had a lot of fun.

1048
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,759
Speaker 2: Skeetz and I broke down NBA Media Day on an

1049
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: episode of No Dunks. We talked to Amy Udoka, We

1050
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 2: talked to Boymogdanovic trade, We talked about just interesting stories

1051
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 2: coming up this season. In another episode of No Dunks,

1052
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,760
Speaker 2: Tray and I talked to Alex Wong, producer co host

1053
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: of The Raptors Show in Canada, also author of Cover Story,

1054
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: a great, great, great book. There's an episode of Is

1055
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 2: This Good coming on this feed later today. Topics include

1056
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: what are they JD water parks? Uh huh?

1057
00:53:15,239 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 4: Musicals? And what's the other one?

1058
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,479
Speaker 2: What's that last picture there? There's someone?

1059
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 4: Oh self, checkout.

1060
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: Oh, we're excited.

1061
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 4: It'll be spicy. We got Skeets and Lee, so it's

1062
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 4: always spicy.

1063
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 2: Together Also, an episode of No Buffs covering Survivor is

1064
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: coming Thursday after episode two of Survivor forty three Tonight

1065
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 2: ninety minute episode Tonight test. How do they decide a

1066
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 2: great question that didn't happen last year? I don't think

1067
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 2: an episode.

1068
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 4: I'm pretty share it that.

1069
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 2: They go from two hours in episode one and have

1070
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 2: the gall to give you another ninety minute.

1071
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 4: There's got I mean, I honestly I'm gonna be I'm

1072
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 4: gonna love it, but right now, I'm not like I've

1073
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 4: gotta sit through ninety minutes of live television.

1074
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'm gonna love it when it's happened. Why

1075
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: don't you watch it taped?

1076
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: I kind of go to I gotta get up at

1077
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:17,759
Speaker 4: five to take my kid to the gym every day.

1078
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: So oh yeah, but during the season, you're gonna be

1079
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: recording a little later. That's positive being positive peak.

1080
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 4: Thank you for positive Pete.

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Speaker 2: Because we will have a daytime no Dunk show coming

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Speaker 2: up very very soon. Every Thursday, will be recording at

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Speaker 2: ten am. Because the season is upon a season, previews

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Speaker 2: are coming very very soon. But yeah, check out No Buffs.

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Speaker 2: It's in its own feet, both as a podcast and

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Speaker 2: on YouTube. All right, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 4: Oh we're doing that.

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Speaker 2: No, we don't have to do that.

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Speaker 4: Let's not do it today.

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Speaker 2: Let's not do that, Clipper. No, Clipper bros. Let's just

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Speaker 2: close it out. Tomynkey, throw the heater ball game.

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Speaker 5: We're done, Bob or buck book or Bo