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Speaker 2: And once they're in, they absolutely cannot tell them to leave,

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Speaker 1: I get Vogue covers, and I can't really do this

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Speaker 1: thing where I pretend to be moderate.

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Speaker 2: Well, Beto ran as a moderate against Ted Cruz. I

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Speaker 2: think that's like when he ran for president, he ran

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Speaker 2: as a completely different Beto.

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Speaker 1: That's true, that's true. Yeah, original Beto was more moderate

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Speaker 1: and original Beta. Yeah, that's a smarter approach. It's not

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Speaker 1: an approach that Crockett is going to even attempt to make.

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Speaker 1: And tell Errico would I think Alred might have. You know, eventually,

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Speaker 1: there will be problems for Republicans in Texas because people

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Speaker 1: are fleeing blue states and moving to Texas. And what

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Speaker 1: they tend to do is they vote blue once they've

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Speaker 1: ruined their old place, and then they come to the

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Speaker 1: new place. And so you have to keep convincing people

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Speaker 1: that you're the party that will keep Texas Texas, and

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Speaker 1: Crockett is going to be I don't know, crock is

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Speaker 1: just going to be saying America and Texas's trash anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know that that applies even I think

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Speaker 2: that blue people, like even the blue people who move

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Speaker 2: to these red states, are more conservative than the place

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Speaker 2: that they left behind. Yes, a lot of them are

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Speaker 2: still tied to the Democratic Party, and that's terrible. I'd

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Speaker 2: say that. You know, Florida was kind of an outlier

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Speaker 2: in this because the steake got way redder as they

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Speaker 2: got this influx of people, including me so.

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Speaker 1: And that's because that's partly because DeSantis, with his policies

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Speaker 1: and good governance, is in the business of convincing people

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Speaker 1: that the party in charge is doing what it's supposed

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Speaker 1: to be doing. But I think this will cause some

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Speaker 1: heartburn for Democrats who wished to give this a go.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you about another lefty woman who is

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Speaker 1: a sellmant right now? Have you seen Jennifer Welch, who

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Speaker 1: is a former Bravo celebrity who.

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Speaker 2: Helped I didn't realize she was a former Bravo celebrity. Yes,

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Speaker 2: she had a story.

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Speaker 1: She had a two season interior design show about she

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Speaker 1: herself and her now podcast partner doing interior design in

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 2: Okay, me and what me and you do after this?

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's give it a try. But I just want

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Speaker 1: to This is the person who's like popped up as

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Speaker 1: their I don't you know? They're looking for their Joe Rogan. Right,

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Speaker 1: So Hassan Piker and this woman are the two.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: She is, of course very pro palaestinning and thanks beating

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Speaker 1: at and Yahoo is a war criminal.

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Speaker 2: So there's that, uh that takes right now on the left.

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Speaker 1: She has that in favor with Hassan Piker. She's a

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Speaker 1: very rich lady. She does design for very rich people.

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Speaker 1: She opens her podcast with Patriots, Gatriots, Theatriots, Black triots,

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Speaker 1: and Brown triots. Yikes. The name of the show is

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Speaker 1: I've Had It. She has a mostly silent co host

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Speaker 1: who just sits there and smiles at her, which is interesting.

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Speaker 1: In fact, that's in the profile by the New York Times,

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Speaker 1: just to give you an indication of where Jennifer Welch

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Speaker 1: is on the ideological spectrum. Let's have her signature intro

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Speaker 1: to her podcast here.

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Speaker 3: It is ready one, two, three, Patriots, gatriots, patriots, black triots,

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Speaker 3: brown triots, and all of maggot can do wet pumps slick.

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Speaker 2: Yikes.

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Speaker 1: Now The New York Times is a course fawningly profiling

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Speaker 1: this person, and I just I'm not sure that this

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Speaker 1: is the path that they want to go down electorally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, is it again? The new Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan

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Speaker 2: is a Democrat. I know, on I know, just keep

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Speaker 2: your original Joe Rogan, Like, why do you need a

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Speaker 2: new one?

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Speaker 1: I like this part. The writer talks about her meeting her.

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Speaker 1: When I met miss Welch at her apartment one November morning,

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Speaker 1: she opened the door to reveal a four foot tall

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Speaker 1: pop art painting of the former Supreme Court Justice Ruth

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Speaker 1: Bader Ginsburg. She offered me a rose colored glass of water,

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Speaker 1: which I sat down atop a coaster of Barack Obama's face.

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Speaker 1: We sat on her blushed velvet couch, which Miss Welsh

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Speaker 1: had reupholstered from its original gray. Okay, every woman, every

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Speaker 1: woman is what I'm hearing. And then this is again

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Speaker 1: this is the Tim Waltz problem. Libs see a football

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Speaker 1: coach from Minnesota and they go, that's what normal people like.

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Speaker 1: Yeahs from Oklahoma. She grew up in Oklahoma and Texas.

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Speaker 1: She has a southern accent. So they're like, that's what

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Speaker 1: enormy's like, right, and so, but that's not it. It's

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Speaker 1: just like she's playing the part. She's actually signaling very

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Speaker 1: rich liberal lady that's with an accent.

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Speaker 2: You're right, Look, I mean Republicans conservatives are not immune

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Speaker 2: from this. I think some of the time they you know,

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Speaker 2: I I'm not mentioning any crazy podcasters by name, but

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Speaker 2: I think some of it is like, oh, we have

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Speaker 2: somebody black who's saying, you know, conservative things like let's

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Speaker 2: elevate this person without much you know, background checking or

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Speaker 2: really looking into her. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 2: it is it happens on both sides. But the Libs

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Speaker 2: going through this right now like just you know, it's

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Speaker 2: really sweet to watch.

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Speaker 1: And she's she does I will I will say I

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Speaker 1: think she is preparing Democrats, unlike Kamala Harris was prepared

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Speaker 1: to actually be able to sit down and take some

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Speaker 1: hits like she does. Ask harder questions than CBS does.

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Speaker 1: Now I think, do I agree with the premises of

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Speaker 1: those questions. No, but people kind of have to go

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Speaker 1: to her show now and they're doing it, so that's interesting.

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Speaker 1: I want to end with one last like perfectly lib

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Speaker 1: anecdote about this woman affluent Lib. This follow Miss Welch

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Speaker 1: and her spouse Josh, helped their youngest son move into

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Speaker 1: a dorm at the University of Southern California. She knows

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Speaker 1: many women who have felt directionless when their children left home. Instead,

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Speaker 1: she moved out too. She told Josh she wanted to

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Speaker 1: experience a midlife gap year in the city with her dogs,

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Speaker 1: where she would be well positioned to build her empires

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Speaker 1: of liberal podcasting and interior design. She moved to Manhattan,

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Speaker 1: and soon she was outside mister Momdani's victory party on

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Speaker 1: election night getting mobbed for selfies. Hardlands up right there.

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Speaker 2: That marriage is in trouble. I'll tell you that. The

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Speaker 2: tell is that they don't want to be together.

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Speaker 1: It's a little clue midlife gap year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I don't know. I don't know that

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Speaker 2: many women or men actually either, who would take midlife

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Speaker 2: gap years without getting actually divorced, so good luck to them.

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Speaker 2: Every woman who lives in Manhattan and goes to move

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Speaker 2: Donnie's victory parties. Sure, why not?

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Speaker 1: These are Barack Obama coasters. That's right.

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