1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: It's that time time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 2: So Michael Very show is. 3 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: On the air. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 2: Pretty little lady, I was coming to bread Christian. 5 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 1: We're all gonna be like three little Fanzi's here and 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 1: what's Fanzie like? 7 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: Come on you, Linda, what's body like? What a wreck 8 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 2: the mundo? And that's what we're. 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Gonna be you selling pictures? Couldn't close an umbrella? What's 10 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: happening to my special partner? I'm danking now we are 11 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: in trouble. 12 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: We had a story earlier a few days ago about 13 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: what was described as a ding dong ditch situation where 14 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: folks run up and knock on the door and run away, 15 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: except in this case, it was an eleven year old 16 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 2: who did it, and as he was fleeing the home, 17 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 2: the homeowners shot and killed him. Now, there's a lot 18 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: of discussion about what is the proper proportionate response to 19 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: such a thing, and there will be much made of 20 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 2: the fact that he was running away instead of toward. 21 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: There are many officer involved shootings where, for instance, someone 22 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: runs at a cop with a knife, cop draws and 23 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: he turns back. There's a lot that goes into this training. 24 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 2: Adrenaline is pumping. You've got to rely on your training. 25 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 2: But even the best Tom Brady threw interceptions. He skipped 26 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: balls to receivers. No matter how many passes you've thrown 27 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: with people pulling all over you, it's still a very 28 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: intense moment. Now, let me offer as a side note, 29 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 2: I don't believe all of these are truly knock and run, 30 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: because there were a lot of videos that they take 31 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: themselves and post little idiots where they go up and 32 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 2: kick on the door, and if it opens, they run 33 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 2: in and steal everything they can. If it doesn't open, 34 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 2: they run off. So that way, when they're caught, oh 35 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: we're just playing ding dong, ditch ah, you crazy kids. 36 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 2: Y'all don't do that anymore. That's not actually what they 37 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 2: were doing. And the media is all too ready to 38 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: make a George Floyd situation. But I reached out to 39 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: my folks at Berna because one of the things I 40 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: am a believer in is your own self protection. My 41 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 2: brother was a cop, you know this. I love cops, 42 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 2: big supporter of cops. They're not all perfect, but neither 43 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: is Congress, neither is your company, neither is the clergy. 44 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 2: Most of them are doing a good job for the 45 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 2: right reasons and making a difference. In fact, almost all 46 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 2: of them. I would say that about everybody has a 47 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 2: bad day, including ramon most days actually, So I reached 48 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: out to them because I am a believer and used 49 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 2: the burner. I used the compact launcher, and I saw 50 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 2: this as an opportunity to talk about how as the 51 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 2: burner folks say, you could have saved two lives, the 52 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: boy and the homeowner because his life is forever changed 53 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: and could be bad. It is not always necessary to 54 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: use lethal force, and BURNA is known as the less 55 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: lethal option by are in a dot com. So I 56 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 2: asked them for an expert on the issue and they 57 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: offered to me local as it would happen, a former 58 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 2: captain with the Galveston Police Department and also an active 59 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: Remax Skydiving team member. Well you ever skydived, I would never. 60 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: My son went on his senior trip and he promised 61 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 2: us he wouldn't skydive, and he did. He performs at 62 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: Wingsover Houston and other aero air shows as part of 63 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 2: a skydiving team. He is now with Berna while continuing 64 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 2: to fly in skydive and he's a spokesman for national 65 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 2: media outlets. You may have seen him or heard him 66 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: talking about active shooter topics and the occasions where a 67 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: less lethal option could save not only that of the 68 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: person that's killed, but the person who pulls the trigger. 69 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 2: John Scherrard, Welcome to the Michael Berry Show. 70 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 1: Hi, thanks for having me. That's quite the introduction. I 71 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 72 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: Would you like me to go on with the other 73 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: more things you'd like me to offer? 74 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: No, not at all dead. 75 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: Is there anything about you that would surprise me? Like, 76 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: do you have a tattoo on your face? Do you 77 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 2: have an eerie I do not. No. 78 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,279 Speaker 1: I try to, you know, maintain a clear and appearance. 79 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: Twenty years in law enforce, and I'll do that to you. 80 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: So did you set the record at Ball High School 81 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 2: for the forty yard dash for a white boy? Tell 82 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: me something about you that's interesting that I wouldn't I 83 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 2: did not. 84 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm also a corporate jet pilot. So part 85 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: of my part time gig is. 86 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: So we made it fifty seven seconds before you told 87 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 2: us he was a pilot. He usually would normally gets 88 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 2: in there within that first minute. 89 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: Normal, Yeah, exactly somewhere. No, I'm actually from the Metroplex areas, 90 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: so actually from Dallas, and I moved down to start 91 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: working down in Galveson, PD back in two thousand and four. 92 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: What brought you to Galveson PD? 93 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: A job more than anything, really was? 94 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 2: It was Riley the chief then? Who was the chief 95 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 2: back then? 96 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: No, that was Kenneth mac. Kenneth Mack was a chief 97 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: back then, a great chief, loved to work and for him, 98 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: he hired me and gave me an opportunity and you know, 99 00:05:58,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: try to make him proud every day. 100 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: How long were you Gallaston PD? 101 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: I was un till twenty twenty. I actually left in 102 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty and then that's when I took over or 103 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: actually was hired by Burnet to create the Law Enforcement 104 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: Division over there with a couple other guys. 105 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 2: So I met the Burner guys because they were in 106 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: they were on the border now Shriff then Constable Jimmy 107 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 2: Fullen was taking PTO and going down to the border 108 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 2: and working from the border, and he and they connected 109 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 2: and they said, Hey, do you know a guy that's 110 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 2: down there we're talking. We want to have him as 111 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: one of our national spokesmen. And his name is Michael 112 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 2: Berry and he Michael Berry's is very different. I know 113 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: him extraordinarily well protected his family over the years. So 114 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: I've known Jimmy a very long time. Tell me, do 115 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 2: you live on the island now? 116 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm actually up in League City. So about 117 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: a tasklay between that island in Houston. 118 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: Right on, and you're not gonna hear and Hault. You're 119 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 2: gonna pick one and one leone, one and one only. 120 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: You get one meal today. You haven't eaten all day. 121 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: It's seven pm. Where are you eating? In galls. 122 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: O Jugism every time, August, best selection, great atmosphere, loved owners. Yeah, definitely. 123 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: They They have been a sponsor of the show, just 124 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 2: kind of seasonally when they have events coming up, and 125 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 2: I don't do less than a year. I don't agree 126 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 2: to that because then you're too much cycle and I 127 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 2: think confused listeners. Oh sure, but I've made probably three 128 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 2: exceptions in twenty years, and they are one of them 129 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: because I think they do such a good job. I 130 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 2: think they're so good. They're they're great for Galison, but 131 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: they're really good for the strand they bring a lot 132 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: of energy. 133 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's they do a lot of Philanthrophy down 134 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: in Galaston as well. I mean, they're heavily involved in 135 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: the community and that just you know, just really have 136 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: the Galveston vibe down there. 137 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 2: My kids are eighteen and nineteen now, so we don't 138 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: get to do it as much. But we wore that 139 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 2: La Kings or La Kings however you pronounce it across 140 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: the street. We wore that place out when they were kids. 141 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: We go in and watch that big guy that looks 142 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: like the guy in one flow over the cuckoo's nest, 143 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: the big Indian guy that makes the taffy. Oh that 144 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: was a tree. All right. We'll talk to John Scherrard 145 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: about Berna and Lesltho Forest in the case of the 146 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: Ding Dong ditch where the kid had to be killed 147 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: recently coming up. 148 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: With your photo matters. 149 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: A natural born geting, do you see, Josh Shirard is 150 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 2: kind of a throwback. Hank Junior boseiphas character. The world 151 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 2: has changed and he wants out of a dinosaur give 152 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 2: him his hat. Okay, I like that. That's that's a 153 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 2: nice description. He may or may not. He probably might 154 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: name recognize what that means. Josh, are you a Hank 155 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: junior fan. 156 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I'm from Texas, Gottaby. 157 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: Well, you know you say that there's a lot of 158 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: these Yankees that have moved in from Dallas, you know. 159 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: I mean I originally when I moved down to Houston, 160 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: they called me a Yankee because I was in North 161 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: I ten. 162 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: So, well, that's exactly how we view it. Yes, of course. Yeah, 163 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 2: you got to be careful these people in the woodlands 164 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: moving in and trying to change everything. So so you 165 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 2: know the ding Dong ditch story. They were told me, 166 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: They told me you the Barno folks told me you 167 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: were perfectly well aware of the case and everything related 168 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: to it. How is that How is the result different 169 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: in that situation if if the fella has an option 170 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 2: other than his firearm. 171 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people when we look at 172 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: shootings throughout the country, and this is on the civilian side, 173 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: it's also on the law enforcement side as well, when 174 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: we really dive down into the into these shootings, a 175 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: lot of it comes down to the fact that that 176 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: was the person's only option. They felt that that was 177 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the only tool that they had, the only option they 178 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: had for response, and so it was either do that 179 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: or do nothing. Unfortunately, a lot of times we see 180 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: these decisions like in this case, you know that that 181 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: decision is extraordinarily flawed because they feel that, well, this 182 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: is the only tool I have, so this is the 183 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: response that I'm going to have, and then we get 184 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: into a situation like this, So you know, that's where 185 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: it's so important to have those options and to have 186 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to force options. Once again, 187 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: on the civilian law enforcement side, it's not a one 188 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: size fits all, you know, if it's not just it's 189 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: either you know, zero or ten, you have to have 190 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: you know, those options in the middle in order to 191 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: respond appropriately because when it comes down to it, your 192 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: response has to be reasonable, regardless of the decision you 193 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: make of why you used it, it has to be reasonable. Now, 194 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,319 Speaker 1: in this case, you know, we're looking at at why 195 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: he may have used it, and you brought up a 196 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: very good point in the beginning of the show, and that's, 197 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't know what's going on. He doesn't 198 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: know that they're but he may not know that they're 199 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: playing a game of ding dong ditch, you know, and 200 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: he may err on the side of caution. But once again, 201 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: even if he did that response still has to be reasonable, 202 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: and I think we can all agree that in this 203 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: particular case, it was not reasonable. 204 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm not sure if I'm a juror that I agree 205 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,199 Speaker 2: with that, and I'm not sure that I wouldn't love 206 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: to take up the case as his defense attorney and 207 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: suddenly read off for thirty minutes the current crime reports 208 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: of young men attacking people. But I agree with you 209 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: that if the fella had it all to do over again, 210 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 2: I can guarantee you he'd rather if Josh Gerard were 211 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: handing him a burn a pistol, or a burna launcher 212 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: or a Smith and Wesson, he'd shoot the burner. I 213 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: feel certain of that fact. And I understand you're a 214 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 2: career law enforcement officer. If I was having this conversation 215 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: with my late brother, who was as well, he would 216 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: have taken your position as well. You deal with it 217 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: all day every day. I don't what do you say 218 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 2: to folks who who say I don't. I can't put 219 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 2: two weapons in my hand at the same time. How 220 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: am I going to know which to choose? 221 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: Really, it comes down to the numbers, and you know, 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: and in any situation comes down to the to the 223 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: seconds and being in that situation. So you know, not 224 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: some Monday morning quarterback anything, but you know you will 225 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: have to make that decision if it ever presents itself 226 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: to you. But I'm a numbers guy. I'm a data guy, 227 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: and when we look at the numbers of situations that 228 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 1: you're likely to encounter. Now, once again, I'm a cop. 229 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: I carried a gun every day in my life for 230 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 1: the last twenty years. But I've also carried burna you know, 231 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: for the last five But when we look at the numbers, 232 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, when we look at justifiable homicides throughout the 233 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: US in twenty twenty three numbers, there are about four 234 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy justifiable homicides in self defense across the US. 235 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: That's it, over the course of the year. So so 236 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: your chance, your your chance of having to use deadly 237 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: force to protect yourself, to actually kill somebody, is about 238 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: one in seven hundred thousand, that's the chance. Now, when 239 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: you looked at victimization or violent crime victimization rates throughout 240 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: the US in the same year, your chance of being 241 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: a victim of violent crime is about one in two 242 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy. So your chance of having to defend 243 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: yourself in some other way aside from the use of 244 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: lethal force, is orders of magnitude greater than your chance 245 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 1: of actually having to kill someone in order to defend yourself. Now, 246 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 1: I do not want people to think that I'm here 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 1: to replace a gun. I'm a staunch supporter of this 248 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. Like I said, carry gun every day. I'm 249 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: definitely I'd rather have it, not need it. Need not 250 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 1: have guy. But with that being said, we have to 251 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,839 Speaker 1: take a look at most likely scenarios. You know, as 252 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: a swat guy for a long time, and we would 253 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: always look at scenarios in two different ways. What's the 254 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: worst case scenario, what do I need to be prepared 255 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: for worst case? But then also what's the most likely 256 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: scenario to happen, And let's make sure we're prepared for 257 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,959 Speaker 1: that too, so that we're not just you know, overlooking 258 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: the obvious out in front of us. And this is 259 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,800 Speaker 1: no different. We want to be prepared for that worst 260 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: case scenario, but we really have to take a hard 261 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: look at what's most likely to happen and what can 262 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: I have and how can I prepare myself for what's 263 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: going to happen on a day to day basis and 264 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: what I know historically is more likely to happen. So 265 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: once again, in this case, having that option, having that burner, 266 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he does make a mistake, maybe it 267 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: was just a game, and you know there's some harsh 268 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 1: words exchange, but everybody's okay in the end, and that's 269 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: a much better outcome than what we're seeing today. 270 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: Well, and you know I've presented option one, which is 271 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: a guy has has choices between the two. I think, well, 272 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 2: it's maybe not the largest group, but the most number 273 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: of people who have responded to me that they bought 274 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: a burner was because of the legal in all fifty states, 275 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: Because we speak for burner across the country, so I 276 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 2: hear from people across the country where they can't buy 277 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: a gun, but they can buy this and it is 278 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: a less lethal self defense and that's important, especially for women, 279 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: but for both. And the other two things are no 280 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: background check, no license required. I believe that we overcriminalize 281 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: drug possession and underpenalize violent crime, and we have been 282 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: left with a situation where everybody's got a black mark, 283 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 2: which means there is no real ostracization to being a 284 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 2: criminal anymore. If everybody is a criminal, by which I 285 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 2: mean the number of listeners I get who say thanks 286 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 2: for the advice on Laburna. I haven't been able to 287 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: carry for X number of years, and now I have 288 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: a form of self defense I feel comfortable with. That 289 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: is a shockingly high number of people. 290 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: That is an absolute market section for us. And I've 291 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: had the same experience talking to so many people who 292 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: have told me the same thing. Hey, I mean I 293 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: screwed up twenty thirty years ago. You know, I was 294 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: with a group of kids. We stole a car, you know, 295 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: joy rider for a bit. But you know, thirty years later, 296 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I've got a family, but I still have a felony 297 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 1: on my record, and I still cannot protect myself with 298 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: a gun, even in a state like Texas where obviously 299 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: that's you know, in the vast majority of people. So 300 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's really it's really interesting to to 301 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: and and and and really motivating for me to be 302 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: able to say, hey, we have a way for everyone 303 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: out there, regardless of you know, your your background, or 304 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: regardless of your belief system, to be able to get 305 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: out there, protect themselves, protect their family. 306 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 2: B y are in a I am a big believer 307 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: Josh Sharad Ramon said, I called you John Chard. I 308 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 2: don't believe that's true. Josh Sharard, thank you for your 309 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: service in law enforcement, and thank you for informing people 310 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: by this. I think this is important. Thanks for being 311 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: agreeing to be our guest. 312 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: Excited. 313 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: Roger Craigor had a song exactly how it went, but 314 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: it was something about me. I don't mind being lonesome, 315 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: but I don't want to be lonely. I think that 316 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: a lot of people feel alone, if not alone, lonely, disconnected, separated, misunderstood, forgotten, 317 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: and it's a hard thing to put your finger on. 318 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: I think that there are a lot of people. One 319 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 2: of them might be your brother or your sister, or 320 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: your mother or your father, or your adult child or 321 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: for that matter, your child that lives under your own roof. 322 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: I'm not a touchy feely person, although I probably am 323 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 2: more now than I was when I was younger, because 324 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: I realized some things need to be talked about. If 325 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 2: they're not, it can lead to results and consequences you 326 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 2: don't want. But I think there are a lot of people, 327 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 2: and you might be one of them, who feel forgotten 328 00:17:54,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: and alone, and there is something haunting about that song. 329 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 2: It was sent to me by Tex Crowley, a listener 330 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,199 Speaker 2: who knew Long Haul Paul. I don't know if he's 331 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,719 Speaker 2: still alive, know or knows Long Haul Paul, who's a 332 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 2: lifelong trucker who finally recorded these musings that he has 333 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 2: and that's what they are into, these songs, and I've 334 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 2: been listening to him this week, and I find that 335 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 2: they're really powerful in the in the way Johnny Cash 336 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 2: is when the Man comes around. It's powerful because there's 337 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: so much more to the song than you're hearing. I mean, 338 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 2: it's a really really deep expression and you feel it, 339 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: you just feel it. And I think about how many 340 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,120 Speaker 2: people are listening to us in the course of a day, 341 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: whether on live radio or on a podcast, who are 342 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: long haul truck. That's a tough job, you know. We 343 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 2: take these things for granted. I'm not saying we need 344 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 2: to be running around emoting for a bunch of other people, 345 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: feeling sorry for people, But we do spend a lot 346 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 2: of time as a society feeling sorry for people by design, 347 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: based on the skin color they were born into, or 348 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 2: the bad life choices they've made, or the consequences there 349 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 2: now suffering for the bad life choices they made, whether 350 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 2: that's prison or a bad job, or homelessness or whatever else. 351 00:19:36,800 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 2: And I think that. And I'm not saying everybody needs, 352 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: you know, a hand up or pat on the back 353 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: or way to go, But loneliness and disconnectedness I have 354 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: come to learn as I've gotten older, fortunately never having 355 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 2: suffered it, and probably by design. It's a defensive technique 356 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: of mine to surround myself other than Ramon, but to 357 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: surround myself with people that I love who love me. 358 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 2: And I need that. And I'm man enough to tell 359 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: you I need that. I need a wife who doesn't 360 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: just live under my roof, but wakes up thinking about 361 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: me and goes to bed thinking about me, and in 362 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 2: between occasionally thinks about me and anticipating my needs as 363 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 2: I hope I do for her. I need that that 364 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: completes me. And I love having children who you know 365 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 2: you can go to every one of your kids ball games. 366 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean they're going to appreciate it. But I love 367 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: having children that I feel I'm connected to and they've 368 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 2: been there for me and I've been there for them. 369 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 2: And how that works and our show team other than 370 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: Ramone you know Chad who's been with me for twenty years, 371 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 2: Jim Mudd. I was a fan of him before he 372 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: came to the show. So to get to work with 373 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: a guy who you were once a fan of his 374 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 2: work is pretty cool. Other than Ramone, Darryl Kunda, who 375 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: worked in a position creating awesomeness that I never believed 376 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: we could get him on one show, and now to 377 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 2: have him here, and Rachel and Sandy, these brilliant women 378 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: who are insanely successful in their own careers in law 379 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 2: and science and technology and logistics, that they would take 380 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 2: time out of their day, unpaid, to volunteer to make 381 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 2: our show so much better. Sometimes I'll give him an 382 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 2: assignment at night or in the morning, and you know 383 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 2: they've stayed up late or got up early and doing 384 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 2: it all for the sake of the show. I mean, 385 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: those kind of things make you feel good about yourself. 386 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 2: But the sense of disconnectedness and loneliness that I have 387 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 2: really come to understand probably drives me to go to 388 00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: the Old Folks Home way more than I naturally would not, 389 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: because I would consciously say I'm not going to old 390 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 2: Folks Home today. Why would I do that? Why would 391 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: I sit in four walls and watch the astros. I 392 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: don't even watch astros at home. Why would I do that. 393 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 2: That's not what I would say. What I would do 394 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 2: is say, hey, I'm going to send an email to 395 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 2: every single one of my show sponsors, at least the 396 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 2: Houston show sponsors tonight and sit down, which I will 397 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: occasionally do, and write a personal email to each one 398 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: of them. How's your business going? How can I help 399 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 2: you more? What's going right? What's a problem you have 400 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: that maybe I can help you solve, what's going on 401 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 2: with your family. It's important to me to manage those relationships. Now, 402 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 2: our sellers manage a relationship, but it's my job, it's 403 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 2: my joy to get to connect with them individually and 404 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 2: do that. So I will set aside evenings that I'm 405 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: going to do that. I could do that every day, 406 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 2: every single day. I could do that. I could, as 407 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: my brother would say, rearrange my sock drawer. He'd say, 408 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 2: you rearrange your soot drawer more than anybody I know. 409 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: For the record, I never rearrange my socker door. I 410 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 2: resent that. Now. I do rearrange my underwear and my shirts, 411 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: and I like to bring order to disorder. It gives 412 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 2: me comfort, it gives me pleasure. But I think about, Okay, 413 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 2: he had my mom right there beside him, nagging him 414 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: twenty four hours that he don't hanim by nagging him, 415 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 2: So he's probably lonely. So I need to go over 416 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 2: there and break up that loneliness. And you know, I 417 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 2: think about how many people this is not. His story 418 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 2: is not about me, by the way, I'm trying to 419 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: share my story in hopes that you will internalize it, 420 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 2: because the story is about you and somebody in your life. 421 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: That story from Long Haul Paul, that lament of the long, melancholy, sad, 422 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 2: lonely days of being a long haul trucker with speed 423 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 2: coursing through you. So you can get through this, and 424 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 2: that's not a good thing. You don't need to worry. 425 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 2: But that tells me how many people are going through life, 426 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: getting through life, taking care of everybody else, and deep 427 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 2: down inside, they're broken, they're sad, they're lonely, they're alone, 428 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 2: and all it's so easy. It won't cost us a dime. 429 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't cost me a dime to go sit with my dad. 430 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: I asked my dad two days ago, does there anything 431 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: I can get for you that you don't have. He says, nothing, 432 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: but for my time, there is probably somebody in your life, 433 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: maybe you work with them. Maybe it's a family member 434 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: that just you taking some time to call them would 435 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 2: save that soul Star. Upon each three trip, at the 436 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 2: end of October is almost closed off, and so Emily 437 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 2: is driving out picking up checks. Our thought is, if 438 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 2: you write a big check to join us for four days, 439 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 2: you shouldn't have to mail that. So Emily goes out 440 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 2: picks them up, and she goes out pick up check 441 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: from a woman who's been on multiple of our checks, 442 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: of our trips. Before she goes to pick up the check, 443 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: woman's been on multiple our trips, and she came on 444 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,639 Speaker 2: the Aspen trip last time or the time before, I 445 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: can't remember, maybe both of them. And so I go around. 446 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: We were out on an outdoor deck, and I go 447 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 2: around on the outside and I said, and I ask 448 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 2: each person some kind of silly question. You know, when 449 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 2: you were fourteen years old, what musician did you most like? Whatever? 450 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: Something stupid. So I have a questionnaire that I send 451 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 2: people and they fill it out, and that helps guide 452 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 2: me to share interesting things about them. Because somebody might 453 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 2: have been Elvis's drummer just fill in, but for eighteen 454 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 2: nights in nineteen seventy four, and you're hanging out with 455 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: this person and you never know that because they don't 456 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 2: think to tell you that. But if you ask in 457 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 2: the questionnaire, were you ever between the year's nineteen fifty six, 458 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: fifty seven and nineteen seventy seven a band member, roadie, dealer, 459 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: or doctor for Elvis? Then you get somebody pops up 460 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 2: and goes, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I did that. But 461 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: unless you asked it right, you wouldn't. So we're going 462 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 2: around and there's a woman named Cheryl Dives, and so 463 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: I called out each person's name. I like everybody to 464 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: learn their names. We do name tax for everybody because 465 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 2: on a four day trip at the end of it, 466 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 2: some of these people become such good friends that they 467 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 2: then vacation together. They don't need me anymore. They'll send 468 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: me pictures of them, you know, on some beach in 469 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 2: Dominican Republic or Mexico or the Mediterranean. And I'm like, well, 470 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 2: I didn't realize y'all knew each other before. Oh no, 471 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: we didn't. We met on the Aspen trip. We met 472 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 2: on the Palm Beach trip, and I love that RCC 473 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 2: was that way. There are people who I haven't seen 474 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: since the day we close the RCC who they have 475 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 2: dinner more than one month and have never missed a 476 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: month since it closed, and they just became good friends 477 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: at the RCC. And I'll explain to you why that is. 478 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: In society, you got one hundred people, that's one hundred 479 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 2: percent of the people, right, Let's let's use one hundred 480 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. You got the really bad people, let's 481 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 2: take them out. You got the anti social, would never 482 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 2: interact people, Let's take them out. You got young people 483 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: they don't want to be around you or me, and 484 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 2: that's okay. And then you got the really really old 485 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: people that are just getting through the day. All right, 486 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: take them out. So now you left with people somewhere, 487 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: If not in your age group, then in a range 488 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 2: it might, you know, y'all could would have enough in 489 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: common you could be friends. If you're a couple, you 490 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: most likely it's most likely going to need to be 491 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: a couple. I we do couples things and we do 492 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,199 Speaker 2: guys things, and I don't mix those. And all my 493 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 2: friends understand that. And there's no feelings. My best friend 494 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: the whole wide world's Uncle Jerry. His wife Renee would 495 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,640 Speaker 2: give me her kidney, I'd give her mind. We love 496 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 2: each other dearly. But when I hang out with Uncle Jerry, 497 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 2: it's me and Uncle Jerry, and frankly, I think she's 498 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: glad to have some time with me taking him off 499 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: her hands, because she will call and say, can you 500 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 2: come get him? But it's not the three of us, 501 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 2: it's the two of us, and she respects that because 502 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: we need our gattame. But anyway, so when you do that, 503 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: when you narrow this down to people, and especially for couples, 504 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: if you're going to have couple's friends, then you need 505 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: both people in the couple to be cool in one 506 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 2: way or another, and then you need those people to 507 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 2: probably agree on most issues. We've yet to have, to 508 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: my knowledge, a screaming liberal group come on one of 509 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: these trips, because in four days somebody might accidentally say 510 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 2: they love Trump, and if that bothers you, you're not 511 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: going to make it. And we go to mar Lago one, 512 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 2: we're there and he comes in, so there's that too. 513 00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: But in any case, so what we managed to do 514 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 2: is distill out and be left with the kind of people. 515 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: So we do all the heavy lifting for you. It's 516 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 2: almost an inadvertent process, but I've come to learn that's 517 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 2: the most important part of the process. We do a 518 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: dinner before and a dinner afterwards, so that people, well, 519 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: this one, we're doing a dinner afterwards. We haven't always 520 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: done that, so that the couples build, because that is 521 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: only one of me. I can't hang out with people 522 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: every night. But if I can match up fun people, 523 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: then you know, you make some friends that you may 524 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 2: not have made. And they may not live in your neighborhood, 525 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: or go to your church, or went to your college, 526 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 2: or served in your same branch as the military. So 527 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 2: we're going around the room. There's a woman named Cheryl Dives, 528 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 2: and I've been an emailing her back and forth. And 529 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: she's not a young woman, elderly, she's not a young woman, 530 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 2: but she's clearly very active. And so she does all 531 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: these things, and I come to find out that she 532 00:29:56,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 2: runs a preserve for pre birds. Now this isn't a 533 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 2: chickadee type thing. This isn't cute ducks crossing over the street. 534 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 2: Everybody stopped with. These are not victims. These are predator birds. 535 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: They're bad ass. So I said, I'm introducing her to 536 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,959 Speaker 2: the group. This is Cheryl Dives. We've been emailing back 537 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 2: and forth as I have with all of you, and 538 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 2: Cheryl does this with these predators. And she said, my glad, 539 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 2: I have to correct you, just so you know you're 540 00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 2: welcome to call me Cheryl Dives. But my actual name 541 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 2: is Cheryl, and I'm not going to say it because 542 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: she had an author of my actual name is Cheryl this. 543 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 2: I said, what was that your maiden name? And she said, no, 544 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: I dive. I go on diving expeditions. I'm an active person. 545 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: I dive all over the world. So her email is 546 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: Cheryl Dives that whatever it is, everyone's Internet evy one whatever, 547 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: And I thought it was the funnest thing in the world. 548 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: So today this morning, Emily is out picking up checks 549 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: and she'll send me a photo when she gets to 550 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 2: people gets a check and she sends me a photo. 551 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: She's gone to see Cheryl Dives, who her name now 552 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: has become Cheryl Dives. That's the running joke. And it's 553 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: a picture of Cheryl wearing one of those like a 554 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 2: fireman's glove, and she's got what's called a Harrison's hawk 555 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 2: on it. And Emily doesn't know what to do because 556 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 2: she's a little skittish around crazy animals like that. But 557 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 2: this woman, I don't know how old she is. I'm 558 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: not going to guess that's a bad idea. But this woman, 559 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 2: this is a tough woman. She's got this predator bird 560 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 2: on her arm, and this is the thing. She's got 561 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 2: a place somewhere down near like Baycliff, and it's I 562 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: don't know, twenty to forty acres and they all live 563 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: there under her protective safety. And I've been supposed to 564 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 2: go forever. You want to go with me? Ramon. What's 565 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 2: that restaurant that Ray Brier's likes him? Is it Pier six? 566 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 2: We should go there. Ray always pays, so let's make 567 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 2: sure we bring Ray. He's good about that. I want 568 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: to see all these predator birds, you know, there's too 569 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: much touching feeling, oh in that cute. I want to 570 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: see something that's just Nature's got something that's nature, that's nature? 571 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: All right. If there is somebody in your life that 572 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: your mere presence, you don't have to spend a penny 573 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: your mere presence, And maybe it's just a phone call. 574 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 2: I know they get on your nerves. That's what moms 575 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: and dads when they get old. Dude, I know your 576 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 2: kids upset you. They're not living the lives you want 577 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 2: them too. They're not with the person you want them to. 578 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: They're not going to the school you want them to, 579 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 2: not pursuing the career you want them to. They's still 580 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 2: your child and you love them. I want you to. 581 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 2: I want you to change your countenance. Take a deep breath, 582 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh happy day, put on a good attitude call and 583 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: have a good conversation and don't let them ruin that 584 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 2: make it special for that person.